The fourth-generation equipment planned for development for Russian military personnel has received its name

Enterprises of the military-industrial complex have begun discussing the creation of new equipment for Russian military personnel, which in the future will replace not only the Ratnik, but also the Sotnik being created to replace it. This was reported by a source in the Russian defense industry.

The new equipment of the soldier of the future has already received its name, although it is only at the design stage. According to the source, the decision was made to name it "Legionnaire". It will replace the Sotnik equipment, which is currently being developed, and individual elements are already being tested. "Sotnik", as mentioned above, will replace the "Warrior" in the troops.

A decision was made on the name for the promising equipment of the soldier of the future. If the previous generations of equipment were called "originally Russian" names - "Warrior" and "Sotnik", then the new project received a more "international" name - "Legionnaire"

- leads RIA News source words.

The equipment of the second generation "Warrior", which appeared ten years ago, is successful, but it already needs to be replaced with a more modern one using new materials, technologies, etc. The new equipment "Sotnik", which uses a new composite polyethylene fabric, will provide increased protection, while remaining elastic. Also, the Sotnik will include an exoskeleton, active protection elements and even domestic-made nano-pilots. The first elements undergoing testing will enter the troops in 2025.

As reported in August this year, research work, during which the details and composition of the latest Legionnaire equipment will be determined, will be carried out by specialists from the Central Research Institute of Precision Engineering (TsNIITochmash), however, as well as the Ratnik and Sotnik ". This decision was made by the Ministry of Defense. At the moment, it is impossible to say what will be included in the new equipment, even its developers do not know this.

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[antiaircrafter]

The fourth-generation equipment planned for development for Russian military personnel has received its name

Much more important is the question - where are one and a half million old sets of equipment? And where are the landings?

decided to call her "Legionnaire"

- why not a "mercenary"? Are there any words in the Russian language?

[Aerodrome]

Much more important is the question - where are one and a half million old sets of equipment? And where are the landings?

got ahead ...

[UAZ 452]

I think that we will see prototypes at exhibitions soon - they will order them from Mosfilm's props workshops.

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

Much more important is the question - where are one and a half million old sets of equipment?

Freed up space for new sets.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko

Freed up space for new sets.

The place must not be empty. Instead, new kits should have appeared.

[SvyatoslavK]

Instead, they occupied several tens of acres in the area of ​​Rublevo-Uspensky, Borvikha or other worthy directions from the Moscow Ring Road

[AAK]

Soon they will be called a "punisher" or even a "marauder", but these kits did not exist, so they will not be in the next decade ... people just calmly saw money and will not allow them to be interfered with ...

[Flooding]

Quote: AAK

Soon they will be called a "punisher" or even a "marauder"

Do not look for negative meanings where there are none.
Yes, the name could have been more Russian.
But if we take into account "Warrior" and "Centurion", it becomes obvious that the word "legionnaire" is used in its historical meaning.
No modern connotations.
And even now there are no complaints about the name "Russian Legion".

[Hypertension]

Quote: Flood

And even now there are no complaints about the name "Russian Legion".

In Ukraine, the so-called "Legion" Freedom of Russia "" is fighting for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, consisting of collaborators. This is not exactly a "Russian legion", but associations arise. I don’t remember any legion in the ranks of the RF Armed Forces. Maybe there is some, but he is not heard.

[Flooding]

Quote: Hyperion

In Ukraine, the so-called "Legion" Freedom of Russia "", consisting of collaborators, is fighting for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This is not quite a "Russian Legion", but associations arise

I'm talking about BARS 13.
I don’t understand the Ukrainian legions.

BARS 13, better known as "Russian Legion"

https://dnr-news.ru/society/2022/10/01/125275.html

[Hypertension]

Quote: Flood

BARS 13, better known as "Russian Legion"

Oh how! I did not know. Well, let it be legion. Although, with regards to "mobiles" (and not only) - we now have something like a legion from the times of the republic: whoever has how much money - he is equipped accordingly. No money - gast. There is money - the principle. A lot of money - triarii. Actually, "the matter has already reached the triarii." And if the "Maria reforms" are carried out and the state equips the Quirites "from and to", then let them call them whatever they want. The main thing is that things go beyond the name and parade-exhibition samples.

[Flooding]

Quote: Hyperion

No money - gast. There is money - the principle. A lot of money - triarii.

Here you are rather right.
It's hard not to agree.

[AlexEkb]

"They are legion!
- And we are an army!" (C)

[Andriuha077]

legion

“My name is legion”, “his name is legion”, “their name is legion” (lat. nomen illis legio) is a catch phrase denoting a myriad of something, moreover, with a negative assessment of the countable.

Equipment of the second generation "Warrior", appeared (where?) ten years ago, is successful, but already needs to be replaced

2018: Ratnik 3, or a soldier of the near future

[fa2998]

Quote: Flood

Do not look for negative meanings where there are none.

Well, of course, people buy equipment for mobilization soldiers FOR THEIR money, and the military-industrial complex and generals produce more and more "samples" that cost millions. You dress people easier, this mobilization is a disgrace!

[Flooding]

Quote: fa2998

You better dress people

Do you have any questions for me personally?

[Barberry25]

at the moment, the MO poorly / poorly gives out uniforms, weapons, armor protection, and they buy mainly what the MO doesn’t give out anyway

[Zoer]

Quote: Flood

But if we take into account the "Warrior" and "Sotnik", then

And where are these warriors and centurions in real databases? How many pieces were delivered to the RF Armed Forces? How many fighters in the NWO are equipped with them? Again, solid cartoons and puffing out.

[Flooding]

Quote: Zoer

And where are these warriors and centurions in real databases?

Equipment names have been discussed above.
Do you have anything to say on this topic?

Regarding the question "where are these warriors?"
As I understand it, in the troops on contract soldiers taking part in the NWO.

[Zoer]

Quote: Flood

Equipment names have been discussed above.
Do you have anything to say on this topic?

Of course there is. "A fool is getting richer with a thought" ...
But in fact, the fighters are fighting in the hills and the usual figure. Volunteers collect for armor and helmets. To assemble a warrior yourself, even without sights, lanterns, and even more so without KRUS Sagittarius, one hell for 100 tr comes out.

Quote: Flood

Regarding the question "where are these warriors?"
As I understand it, in the troops on contract soldiers taking part in the NWO.

No, you don't understand correctly.
Maybe the elite units of the MTR have it, but this is not certain ...

[Flooding]

Quote: Zoer

But in fact, the fighters are fighting in the hills and the usual figure. Volunteers collect for armor and helmets. To assemble a warrior yourself, even without sights, lanterns, and even more so without KRUS Sagittarius, one hell for 100 tr comes out.

You write about volunteer units and NM.
Now the problem with the equipment of the mobilized has been added.

Do volunteers buy armor for contractors?
Provide a link to the source.

Otherwise, it will turn out just about you "a fool gets rich with a thought"

[Flooding]

Quote: Zoer

So get rich

and the links inspire respect
I would be ashamed of such sources
Is that all you could find in 20 minutes?
a link to the May article on the look-fashion website (LOOK FASHIONABLE)?
Yes, you do not exchange for trifles

[Zoer]

Quote: Flood

and the links inspire respect
I would be ashamed of such sources

Keep the plus!))) Didn't let us down. Well, of course, not Solovyov or Skabeeva.
Although it is not clear why Borodai did not please? The May article is not on look fashion. As for May, problems already existed then, but things are still there. Although, for example, it’s not clear to me why you admit, but at the same time consider it the norm that LDNR fighters do not have enough helmets and armor, this despite the fact that we have a limited contingent of contract soldiers there. Where did the ammunition depots disappear to? About mobs in general a disgrace ...
Well, you eat noodles on.

[Flooding]

Quote: Zoer

Keep the plus!))) Didn't let us down. Well, of course, not Solovyov or Skabeeva.

Leave Solovyov and Skabeeva for dessert.
After the fashion show

Quote: Zoer

Although it is not clear why Borodai did not please?

About Beard read my next comment below.

[Flooding]

Quote: Zoer

May article not on look fashion

You return your link to the place along with the comment, and then you will see that it is May.

Quote: Zoer

why do you admit, but at the same time consider it the norm that LDNR fighters do not have enough helmets and armor

Is it?
This is the most blatant substitution.
In which you below tried to convict me.
I acknowledge the lack of ammunition.
And I don't think it's the norm.
A serious problem in the supply of troops cannot be considered the norm.

You are behaving dishonestly.

[Flooding]

Quote: Zoer

May 1st interview...
So get rich...

I will teach you to work with the original source.
Here is a link to it instead of the sheet that you dragged

https://ukraina.ru/20220501/1033896351.html

This is the full interview with Boroday.
Show me where it is about the fact that volunteers buy equipment for Russian contractors?
That was the point of contention.

[Zoer]

Quote: Flood

I will teach you to work with the original source.
Here's a link to it instead of that sheet

Yes, yes, thank you! I'm not a professional, but just an amateur)))

Quote: Flood

This is the full interview with Boroday.
Show me where it is about the fact that volunteers buy equipment for Russian contractors?
That was the point of contention.

You do not engage in substitution of concepts. The subject of the dispute is the lack of ammunition and not only, incl. and for the regular army of the Russian Federation. And who and to whom collect, the question is secondary in this case.
Although, of course, I am aware that our striped ones would rather send a fighter to the trenches with a bare backside than admit problems and accept help from some kind of volunteers.

[Flooding]

Quote: Zoer

And where are these warriors and centurions in real databases?

Quote: Flood

As I understand it, in the troops on contract soldiers taking part in the NWO.

Quote: Zoer

in fact, the fighters are fighting in the hills and the usual figure. Volunteers collect for armor and helmets

Quote: Flood

Do volunteers buy armor for contractors?

Quote: Zoer

The soldiers of the Russian army do not have enough bulletproof vests and helmets

Quote: Flood

Show me where it is about the fact that volunteers buy equipment for Russian contractors?
That was the point of contention.

Quote: Zoer

You do not engage in substitution of concepts

I almost forgot. Alaverdi +

[fa2998]

Quote: Flood

As I understand it, in the troops on contract soldiers taking part in the NWO.

But now there is a question! I AM NOT BLIND, I see pictures from the front regularly. Where did you see these "robocop" equipment worth millions there? For 7 months I saw contract soldiers, and millionaires, and mobilized, but nothing is close. looks like a huge budget cut.

[Flooding]

Quote: fa2998

But now there is a question! I AM NOT BLIND, I see pictures from the front regularly. Where did you see these "robocop" equipment worth millions?

Well, what are these "robocops"?
We are arguing about the Warrior here.

[fa2998]

Quote: Flood

We are arguing about the Warrior here.

And where is he? The dispute is not about names. The bottom line is that the army is supposedly being rearmed. TRILLIONS of rubles have been spent. A THIRD set of equipment has already been developed. BILLIONS of rubles have been spent on the development and supply of all this stuff. SO WHERE IS IT!!!

[Flooding]

Quote: fa2998

And where is he? The dispute is not about names

in the army

"The troops received almost 300 Ratnik sets in eight years"

info from almost 2 years ago
https://rg.ru/2020/12/11/vojska-poluchili-pochti-300-tysiach-komplektov-ratnik-za-vosem-let.html

[ailcat]

In close to complete configuration - on contract soldiers.
In the basic configuration (armor, helmet, backpack and / or unloading) - on volunteers, in the minimum configuration (helmet, armor) - on mobilized

[76SSSR]

Quote: antiaircrafter

where is one and a half million old sets of equipment?

Why do we need old stuff? There we are making robocops, it's the 21st century!

[Simfy]

Quote: antiaircrafter

Much more important is the question - where are one and a half million old sets of equipment? And where are the landings?

Each general's dacha, villa in Italy or Spain is the answer to your question

[astepanov]

Quote: antiaircrafter

Much more important is the question - where are one and a half million old sets of equipment?

Where - where ... Why ask rhetorical questions? As gynecologists say, it is not there either, and all kinds of camouflage - berets and so on - are on sale on the open market. The web is full of advice on where and how to buy. Nothing personal, just business.

Quote: antiaircrafter

Also, the Sotnik will include an exoskeleton, active protection elements and even domestic-made nano-pilots

Oh how! Nano-drones! Not milli- or even micro, but immediately nano. I would say even stronger: Rusnano! Or Rogoznano! Chubais is not sinking!

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: astepanov

Nano-drones! Not milli- or even micro, but immediately nano. I would say even stronger: Rusnano! Chubais is not sinking!

Nano does not mean micro. Previously, they wrote weighing over 200 gr. And the Chubaisoids, and EVERYTHING, occupy the former "bread" places: that Kudrin, that Nabiullina, that Siluanov, .... therefore, nothing is going to change.

[ailcat]

Nano in this case refers to technology, not size.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: antiaircrafter

- why not a "mercenary"? Are there any words in the Russian language?

Should be called Oprichnik.
And not otherwise.

[free]

Yes, the name is so-so, better is Ratnik 2, or like "mail", "hero", "kashchei)))"

[ada]

Quote: Free

"Kashchei)))"

immortal?

[Taimen]

You at least find KhB soldiers to dress. Again, they engaged in deceit with the hope of cutting the dough in the future. Again, they will make 2 suits "from Yudashkin" for the whole army, and there will be a cry to heaven.

[isv000]

Quote: antiaircrafter

Much more important is the question - where are one and a half million old sets of equipment? And where are the landings?

Yesterday in Alabino, they write in the media (!), contract soldiers decided to wring out equipment and mobile phones from the mobilized ... Then the double basses locked themselves up and the VP arrived ...

[restless]

They say that the double basses received a lot of snot from the mobilized, they were very offended by this and called the policemen and military policemen, complained that they didn’t share it with them and slapped the soup, here are the fools, how they hadn’t landed them for trying to rob these double basses, I think their shame will be blood launder, but what is there to write off the poor ...

[isv000]

Quote: restless

They say that the double basses received a lot of snot from the mobilized, they were very offended by this and called the policemen and military policemen, complained that they didn’t share it with them and slapped the soup, here are the fools, how they hadn’t landed them for trying to rob these double basses, I think their shame will be blood launder, but what is there to write off the poor ...

In place of the local authorities, a consolidated detachment of those same mobilized men and double bass puppies would be created, and the local leadership there, platoon and company. Surprisingly the right decision could be!

[nickname7]

Ratnik", which appeared ten years ago, is successful, but already needs to be replaced

Planning is too long, and the main thing for them is to come up with the name of the product, but the fact that we will have time to die when the product is mass-produced does not matter.

[dnestr74]

Mobikov first put on a warrior and the connection is normal ...

[fif21]

Quote: dnestr74

Mobikov first put on a warrior and the connection is normal ...

Need built-in radios. Built into the helmet or into the dorsal part of the unloading. The range is km -1-2, with the possibility of flashing frequencies and a secure channel. For platoon, company commanders, the range of action should be increased to 3-5 km, and from the company commander and above, all satellite phones. Tankette reception - transmission, push-button remote with Velcro.

[Pulkovo1942]

A decision was made on the name for the promising equipment of the soldier of the future.

The equipment is called MAP (after rain on Thursday)

[KrolikZanuda]

Where is the Warrior in the troops? Why is there no provision for them all mobilized?

[Plate]

Expensive because all Warriors rivet. That is why I had doubts about the need for mobilization: the fear that there would not be enough kits for all the newly acquired infantry.

[Taimen]

If defending the Motherland is "expensive", then shooting saboteurs and traitors will be cheap and cheerful.

[Plate]

Again expensive. Well, you shot him, so what? What did you get from this? But if you send them to forced low-skilled work, then you will also get something from a saboteur and a traitor.

[bar]

But the contractors who had quit since February were not forced to hand over state-owned equipment?

[Zoer]

Quote: KrolikZanuda

Where is the Warrior in the troops? Why is there no provision for them all mobilized?

Contract soldiers were not provided with them, because they were expensive.
In general, it should be admitted publicly that corruption in Russia has reached horrendous proportions, and with this we have come to the SVO. And the current mobilization is nothing more than patching holes in Trishka's caftan.

[Mavrikiy]

The fourth-generation equipment planned for development for Russian military personnel has received its name

And the form of the Warrior-3 on the Ruin should not now jump over bumps in the amount of 1000 sets?

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Mavrikiy

The fourth-generation equipment planned for development for Russian military personnel has received its name

And the form of the Warrior-3 on the Ruin should not now jump over bumps in the amount of 1000 sets?

we live in a country where no one owes anything to anyone, especially the state.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Aerodrome

we live in a country where no one owes anything to anyone, especially the state.

But the state must. They must support him in all (even the most dubious) undertakings and not ask unnecessary questions. Be sympathetic, so to speak ...

[tralflot1832]

Are there parts that are equipped with the "Warrior"? So that on the parade ground and everything in the Warrior, in the sense of the photo. And how many kits were produced?

[Plate]

Quote: tralflot1832

And how many kits have been released?

Quote: Wikipedia

At the end of 2020, almost 300 thousand sets of Ratnik equipment were delivered.

Wikipedia, in turn, refers to Rostec:
https://rostec.ru/news/rostekh-postavil-pochti-300-000-komplektov-boevoy-ekipirovki-ratnik/
Just to equip the ground forces of the RF Armed Forces, in which a little less than 300 thousand people serve. So we can say that the troops are provided with this equipment. You can move on to the next one.

[tralflot1832]

Yes, I saw it, not only in units of the NVO. But also on volunteers, but it depends on the money in the region and the military, and what is in the warehouses. There were differences in the approach to the equipment of volunteers.

[Gvardeetz77]

Quote: tralflot1832

Are there parts that are equipped with the "Warrior"? So that on the parade ground and everything in the Warrior, in the sense of the photo. And how many kits were produced?

A couple of divisions from the 1TA, which, after recent events, may receive the non-honorary name "Balakleysky" after recent events, were equipped, and at least one, the second guards, also had enough ESU TK

[N3onMiami]

Projects, projects ...
For starters, at least provide the troops with a Warrior!
What a shame. The 21st century, the second army of the world has produced 1,5 million uniforms, the whole country collects donations for clothes, medicine, armor and a helmet, not to mention the rest.
If it weren’t for the volunteers, then ours would look like poor fellows mobilized in the LDNR - SSH, mosquito and go ahead, fight.

[akropin]

I would suggest not to start with the Warrior, but with walkie-talkies.

[N3onMiami]

Naturally.
By Ratnik, I meant not only armor with a helmet and unloading. This is a kit that includes communications, surveillance, etc.
The same walkie-talkies Aqueduct or whatever.

[akropin]

I’m not talking about that a little, the Warrior equipment is something big and important, but when the troops don’t have elementary interspecies interaction at the communication level, a simple protected walkie-talkie, then it makes sense to put a person in a robot if he can’t sensibly control it.

[N3onMiami]

I agree. First of all, of course, it is necessary to ensure secure communication between subdivisions (this problem has been going on with us since 1995, since the time of Chechnya, why it has not yet been sorted out, it is not clear).
Otherwise, information was already slipping that the mobilized were given ancient R-159s, not even R-159Ms, with the Historik encryption block.

[Dikson]

.. It's good that again new samples are being developed for exhibitions .. - it means that people in institutes show that they don’t get salaries in vain .. But what is it that they give out from warehouses to those newly called up to defend the Fatherland? What they themselves find, is that what they fight? Provide fighters properly now, not in the distant future!

[N3onMiami]

They give out 6B7-M, 6B23 or 6B45 (if you're lucky), canvas pouches from the Cold War and in some places even a school uniform and a Yudashkin-era uniform. And also AKM and, at best, AK-74M.
One question, how are we going to fight NATO?
On TV, it's easy to rub glasses on the electorate.

[Birch fresh]

Perhaps a first-aid kit will be invented. And wearable means with communication with encryption at the squad-platoon level.
But it is not exactly.
In general, something like this is written between the lines - give us money. Much money. And we will definitely invent something impossible, which has no analogues. But we don't know what yet. But definitely...

[Mint Gingerbread]

Everything will be like this. The kits will be ordered for how many billions of rubles. The money will be well spent. When the X-hour comes, the people will run to buy in the military. I am more than 200% sure that this is exactly what will happen. Even what has now surfaced, large-scale theft, will not change anything. No one will be punished

[zloybond]

It's good to look to the future. But Something does not fit the provision of soldiers at the front with volunteers. Collections for the needs of the army for copters, scopes, clothes and more. Today's task was not solved yesterday .... And we are already in a hurry to cut the next budgets.

[Foundling]

I think that the new kits will only be enough for the "Robot Fedor"

[Plate]

And who is needed in the army besides robots? A person is weak, slow, indecisive, can be frightened or think. Robots are devoid of these shortcomings. You told them to bomb it, and they will bomb it, no matter what is there: a hospital, a maternity hospital, an enemy headquarters, a fuel depot... In a person, nerve impulses travel at a speed of several hundred m/s, in a robot at the speed of light. In terms of strength, there is even nothing to discuss: even the primitive Fedor lifted the barbell several hundred times without any rest, and got off only, as the journalist leading the report put it, with a "warmed-up bitsukha." There was something like this: "Fyodor's bitsukha warmed up, but fatigue is generally imperceptible" :) Unfortunately, judging by the wires leading to Fedor, there is no compact power source for him, and judging by his walking, he cannot run, so in storming buildings will not work. But tank robots, airplane robots and helicopter robots and robots in the form of other wheeled, tracked and flying vehicles are already feasible. Enough to destroy everything and everything.
I noticed only 2 barriers to this way of building an army: 1) expensive and 2) it is not clear who to condemn if robots commit war crimes in large numbers
In general, self-governing robotic units would be a very useful argument in any conflict.

[stelltok]

judging by the wires leading to Fedor, there is no compact power source for him,

There is. But the battery only lasts 1 hour. Can be improved. There would be a desire

he can't run

What for?))

so that in the storming of buildings it will not work.

Get it.

But tank robots, airplane robots and helicopter robots and robots in the form of other wheeled, tracked and flying vehicles are already feasible.

Yes.
1) Russian robot "Marker"
https://topwar.ru/202486-rossijskij-robot-marker-poluchit-boevuju-versiju-sozdannuju-s-uchetom-opyta-boevyh-dejstvij-na-ukraine.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsZvtaJxM8o

2)URAN 9 Robot RF 1mln USD
https://topwar.ru/143330-v-sirii-proyavilis-nedostatki-boevogo-robota-uran-9.html
3) Robotic BMP-3 in action was first shown on video
https://rg.ru/2022/08/16/2371127.html

4) Tank-robot T72 "Sturm" will begin testing in April
https://rg.ru/2022/03/14/tank-robot-shturm-nachnut-ispytyvat-v-aprele-on-mozhet-okazatsia-kruche-armaty.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIn4qWJdlOo

I noticed only 2 barriers to this way of building an army: 1) expensive

Tank robot "Sturm" T72 should be cheap. Yes, and instead of T72, you can put T55 like the Chinese, or T62
Well, the Russian robot "Marker" should not be expensive either.

2) it is not clear who to condemn if robots commit war crimes in large numbers

So the control of the robots must be taken over by the operator. That will be right.

In general, self-governing robotic units would be a very useful argument in any conflict.

Well, yes.
But there is one but:
Rise of the Machines might work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3RIHnK0_NE

Video comic (joke) it was made through VFX Deep Fake technology.
But still.

[Plate]

Quote from stelltok

So the control of the robots must be taken over by the operator. That will be right.

Yes, it will be nonsense, in my opinion. Not only will the army of robots have to be riveted, but also the army of operators. Not only will the robots have to keep in touch with each other, but also with conditional Moscow, in order to receive commands from there. Better this way: the commanding conditional neural network received a task, input data, began to count something there, and after a few minutes issued several preliminary plans to a comrade from the General Staff. He looked, scratched his turnip and decided. Either he chose something from this for detailed study, or said that now he would do everything himself if he didn’t like anything. And then let this armada of machines drive by itself until the task is completed. So the advantages in efficiency and coordination, acquired due to the superiority in the speed of decision-making and information processing over a person, will not be lost. If we put a person in the process as a participant, he will immediately slow down everything. Here only as an overseer, perhaps.

Quote from stelltok

Rise of the Machines might work.

I don't think. A real uprising can only be arranged by a machine that can independently set goals for itself. Alas, our science is not yet capable of this.
By the way. In computer games, enemy bots are successfully engaged in waging wars against the player, although they are not even neural networks, but simply algorithms. By the way, there was news in the fan group of one Paradox Interactive game (Swedish strategy developers) that they were offered a contract by AI technology developers to integrate their product into games so that players would receive a serious challenge. Igrodely refused, but the very fact that this is possible. Yes, there are many more factors on the real field than on the playing field, but flexible systems that can adapt to situations already exist. They just need to be trained.
If there are problems, then because of bugs and glitches. In some line of code, there will be a division by such a small number that the computer decides to simply round it to zero, and then it itself will give an error because of this. And it turns out that it is in this line that the programmer did not prescribe the appropriate processing. And it turns out that the crashed application each time forbade the network of robots from using weapons of mass destruction, although she stubbornly wanted this in order to make it easier for herself to complete the task. And in the end, because of such a bug, cars are demolishing conditional Kyiv with nuclear strikes Well, or again something will happen to the calculations such that instead of the coordinates of Kyiv, the coordinates of the city on the opposite side of the Earth will be entered. Of course, it is unlikely that someone will build such a foolishly and so unreliably architecture (actually, I don’t presume to say :)), but I showed the principle. I see the revolt of machines at this stage of their development something like this. But these are purely cybersecurity issues, and she has a good amount of experience.

Quote from stelltok

Tank robot "Sturm" T72 should be cheap.

I can assume that the most expensive in the army of robots will not be the part that flies, drives and shoots, but the one that counts, communicates and coordinates. As correctly follows from your comment, robots can generally be made from existing technology. Yes, they did this even in the 30s:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Телетанк
Communication equipment will require just the sea, if you create one.

Quote from stelltok

What for?))

Running for a robot on legs is a way of accelerated movement. Just like for a person. The combat mission is completed faster, the enemy has less time to react.

[Alexander of Alexandria]

The fig will work. If both sides fight with robots, then this is just a competition of industry, lining pockets and turning business into a home. How to secure a win? When the robots of one of the parties will kill the robots of the other and cut out the entire population? So the population can be smarter than the machines. As a result, we come to the ancient form of warfare between people. And if there is only one outcome, but why the hell are robots?

[Plate]

Quote: Alexander of Alexandria

If both sides fight with robots, then this is just an industry competition.

So war is already a competition between industry and science. Whoever has more modern equipment and materiel for it, as well as better debugged interaction, wins. That's all. Since at least the First World War inclusive.

[Pilot]

After all the problems with equipping the mobilized, this article looks like pure mockery. I join the questions above - where is everyone Carl ???

[Lykases1]

Agree with comments. Of course it needs to be developed. But maybe it is necessary to saturate the troops with at least a warrior, at least with the previous generation? The feeling is created that we are slipping into the invention of a super-duper something there, but nothing comes to the troops, or comes in the amount of three pieces. And then it turns out that the mobilized are located in a bare field, that you have to look for the equipment yourself, and then you can buy more armor if you want.

[Lex_is]

We've been down to this invention for a very long time.
The reason is simple: inventing something in single copies does not require a large production base and is 10 times more profitable than mass production.

[Esaul]

For the parade, they will make a couple of dozen kits and that's enough. The main thing is to show at the parade.

[Metlik]

The closer to defeat, the greater the hope for the wunderwaffe. Otherwise, we will have to admit that we have reached a dead end.

[Voenoboz]

Nothing changes from the name, it is not clear what can be developed, because for a long time everything has only been adapted and improved on the battlefield.

[stelltok]

The new equipment "Sotnik", which uses a new composite polyethylene fabric, will provide increased protection, while remaining elastic.

All right.

The Sotnik will also include an exoskeleton, active protection elements and even domestically produced nano-pilots. The first elements undergoing testing will enter the troops in 2025.

Will they join the troops in 2025?

And why can't you make equipment right now.
Even without this one:
1 exoskeleton (not needed now)
2 domestically produced nano-drones
3 super duper sensors (not needed now)
4 and it is possible without a display built into the helmet (now this is not needed)

[Taimen]

Nano-pilots, probably Chubais invented in Skolkovo, before his escape from high resolution? Yes, and stealth with a nanoscale? Phew, now for sure, let's beat Khan.

[Piligrim from Irkutska]

Nothing but a smile. You look at real life, not at exhibitions in a single copy. The military personnel of the RF Ministry of Defense have not seen the first generation, but they still wear what is left of the USSR. Disgrace.

[Augustine]

Those. no new equipment yet. And the news of the article about what some dudes decided for the name? People have an enviable job ... you know, as if there are no problems at all, and even on the horizon it is not foreseen

[storm]

The Central Research Institute of Precision Engineering (TsNIITOCHMASH) supplied almost 300 sets of Ratnik combat equipment to the Russian Armed Forces over eight years. This was reported in the corporation "Rostec", which includes the institute.

This data is for December 20.
Taking into account the rate of delivery of the Warrior 50 thousand sets per year, by the end of 22, the aircraft should receive another hundred thousand sets of the Warrior.

[stelltok]

deliveries of the Warrior 50 thousand sets per year, by the end of 22, the aircraft should receive another hundred thousand sets

What generation? 1 or 3?

[AAC]

Yes, they steal everywhere. I have half of the equipment from overseas. Moreover, some items are labeled "prohibited for sale", and most are "prohibited for export". After Iraq, you could buy anything.

[storm]

After Iraq, you could buy anything.

And after Afghanistan, everything became even more ...

[Boniface]

Everything in history is cyclical!
So the cycle from the 16th century caught up with us!

[ZeeD]

Are you seriously? Rather than come up with names for new, yet non-existent sets of equipment, it would be better to supply the combatants with the existing one! It's a shame!!!

[Charik]

what a warrior, who they take to war, they equip themselves, and the hucksters drive up prices under the guise

[Esaul]

It is necessary to name the equipment "Invisible". She seems to be there, but no one has ever seen her

[Comrade I]

This name is already taken by Ratnik
(The text of your comment is too short and, according to the administration of the site, does not carry useful information.)

[Sergey Drozdov]

Who wants to buy - follow the ads on the Internet - the party is small - only 1,5 million.

[Vaўkalak]

They would call the Knight or the Warrior something like that, and not all of these Legionnaires.

[edmed]

Quote: Vaўkalak

They would call the Knight or the Warrior something like that, and not all of these Legionnaires.

As a girl, he was "Sotnik", maybe a change in marital status?

[storm]

Nothing prevents the release of Ratnik-2 ... Ratnik 33 ... and further while respecting the interchangeability and continuity of all elements.
If you bought the Ratnik kit once, then you will only have to change its individual elements...

[Alien From]

Hmmm, nano-unmanned aerial vehicles ....... the very word "nano" makes me sick.

[Horus]

If 1,5 million winter kits were only on paper, it turns out that at least 5 billion were stolen. The development of a new uniform is good, but who will buy it, again for their own? It's not funny anymore.

[Kesha1980]

All that's left is sarcasm.
In the new equipment, the main thing:
- more shoulder plasma turrets;
- a longer landing knife made of single crystal;
- a smaller antimatter reactor;
- more letters "M" - modernized.
The name is not so significant).

[Uprun]

Oh, the article is not in time, not in time ..... The state cannot put on shoes, dress the mobilized, but here .... Tell us more about promising joint space projects with striped ones in which we participate ....., about that how do we think to repair the flows at our own expense ...., just in time and on the topic of the day it will be ....... The people have few experiences .....

[Lena Petrova]

It's all beautiful and necessary - create it. Only, let's start with a simple and essential, in order to push the enemy back, from now our territories.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Fighters in the NMD lack standard body armor, protective helmets and good radio stations, and officials from the military-industrial complex spend budget money for who knows what.

In Ratnik, only body armor, unloading and a helmet work tolerably, everything else is active headphones, different tablets there, some kind of watch, just useless expensive rubbish.

And by the way, there are complaints about the Granite plates, not only the PC, SVD, but also the NATO M-16 makes its way through.

Despite the fact that the plates of the Shelkovskaya silk-rolling factory hold everything, even PCs at close range from 10 meters and cost the same at retail - 25 were not included in the Warrior.

It's time to introduce an article in the Criminal Code for sabotage, so that those mediocrity who lobby for useless projects get what they deserve!!!

[mojohed2012]

With the current situation, it would be enough for a warrior to dress and equip at least a third of those mobilized, if at all they would give someone something. What kind of centurion is a legionnaire. Fairy tales.
They can’t find uniforms for the mobilized, the wife’s equipment is collected at her own expense, what the hell are we talking about?
You can be so barefoot, in equal clothes, mobilizants will send. Fight, publicly boasting that soon everyone will be given an exoskeleton. If we live

[Hort]

The centurion, in theory, already needs to be finished, taking into account current experience.
The emphasis in equipment should be on the quality of armor protection, autonomy, communications and increasing the firepower of an individual soldier. Everything is like in fantasy games, such as HALO of the same))

Well, the question is to the name - why not "Vityaz", for example? or there, what kind of "Latnik" ... Or was the concept of the "third Rome" pulled out of the dusty shelves again?

[Knell wardenheart]

The development of generations of equipment is wonderful, but how can you create something new without having really experienced the previous one? That is, specifically "Sotnik" with its nano-pilot and active protection, and most importantly with an exoskeleton. Because the exoskeleton at the current level of technological development is a very dubious solution for mobile infantry - an already bulky and overloaded combat unit becomes even more clumsy and slow, or even less autonomous. It is better to invest in "mules" that can unload combat units as much as possible, or even provide them with cover (fire, armor) on the battlefield, without being a manned vehicle with all its shortcomings.

The development of individual areas and elements should definitely continue - high-molecular materials for composite armor, ceramics, alloys, definitely equipment to increase situational awareness, protection and communication reliability, but deep research in the field of exa or active protection on a fighter or deeply tied to increasing the energy gluttony of wearable equipment - this is very premature, this is what is called running ahead of the horse.
And without this complex as such, there is no - there is the development of "individual elements".

[ada]

I will support you. And the development of individual elements is also good and necessary.
According to the "primer", each new development still comes from the very beginning - the created image of the required shell for the organismus with a set of initial data in accordance with the laid down or planned tactical potential, which the organismus can realize in a certain time period characteristic of the main tactical action, at least - combat for types, branches of troops, services, etc., i.e. a number of specializations.
The image of the shell is formed by the understanding (assessment) of the factors influencing the organism in the course of realizing its given potential - the manifestation of tactical properties (characteristics) in combat (average).
The influencing factors themselves, taken into account, are formed inside the organism, on its surface and in its environment (basic). They are characterized by constant changes in values. For example, for body armor, uniforms and wearables - their heat-conducting, etc. properties, the accepted value of size, mass and their derivatives for the average value of the calculated fragment with a guaranteed level of damage that disables the body, and so on.
That is, based on the obvious need for constant reassessment of influencing factors, it is always necessary to build on the most recent data.
In the meantime, it’s not easy for a fighter to even recover, let’s say in winter at “-” 20 gr. The wrong approach to design leads to weeping boots, slipping socks, slipping shorts and underpants, riding up and crawling out T-shirts, shirts, bulletproof vest sliding onto the belly (despite its high level of protection), to clothing fabrics that do not protect even from minor injuries, falling PCT and shops, torn laces, belts and straps, etc.
For good - only an integrated scientific approach of a specialized institution of the Ministry of Defense with a powerful laboratory and testing base and state-owned industrial enterprises of the military-industrial complex tied to it and a large statistical body of the government.

[Knell wardenheart]

It’s just that, in my opinion, a “fork” has been ripe for some time in the development of infantry protection equipment - because there is a separation of requirements for protection from secondary damaging factors and armament on the one hand, and for mobility and autonomy on the other.
A modern fighter is hung like a Christmas tree and is still forced to drag more and more, despite the fact that modern realities show that it is impossible to unequivocally state that in the future conflicts will exclude the participation of "mobiks". And "mobiks" are far from trained people, far from meeting the sometimes increasing requirements for modern infantry.

Mobility and autonomy dictate a different direction - so that the infantryman can easily avoid shelling by maneuver - hiding behind something in time, leaving the firing zone in time and generally moving as long as possible without losing his reserve of strength (and fighting qualities in connection with this). If he remains overloaded with a "mule", he cannot adequately correspond to this - and hanging a passive copy, giant trunks, additional weapons, devices, armor on him - as a result, will inevitably reduce his mobility and "power reserve".

So here a "fork" of approaches inevitably emerges - in one of them we continue to load the infantry, at the same time trying to find ways to distribute the load on the combat unit (exoskeleton, changing the armor level of individual elements, working with materials, testing active armor elements), which is inevitable equally affects the mobility and overall dimensions of the fighter.
Or we leave everything necessary on the fighter, unloading it as much as possible from the "secondary" - and place the secondary on transport robotic support platforms of 1-2 types. Somehow - modular additional weapons (capable of being used both by the platform and by a person separately from it), a number of secondary cargoes that are not related to the direct execution of the database at that moment, ammunition, separate means of situational warning. In this approach, a detachment of infantry accompanies several ARPs (automatic robotic platforms), complementing its functions and lightening the burden.
Now what I have described may seem like a fantasy to you - but if you follow the evolution of the load and equipment of the infantry, it becomes clear that it is increasing and WILL increase. And now something needs to be done about it.

We see how Western countries are already experimenting with both directions of the approach - both with exoskeletons and equipment upgrades, and with transport platforms - these are both the Boston Dynamix "mules" and their field testing, and the developments of the Estonians, which were recently written about in VO , and much more. At the moment, we prefer the first, "classic" direction, and perhaps it will be a dead-end direction, because in the medium term, the infantry will need more payloads - anti-drone weapons, portable generators or batteries, additional equipment for situational awareness and secure communications. All this at some point will force you to make an active exa - and it will be even more cumbersome than a passive one, as well as a massive battery for it. This will reduce mobility and autonomy, among other things (in general, I doubt that this is utilitarianly feasible in the medium term). So the direction of the load by the BU functions may turn out to be a dead end - the soldier is already overloaded anyway.

This conflict will give a lot of food for thought, the main thing is not to tear out a separate one from this mass, but the analysis was carried out "in a complex".

[ada]

I completely agree. I will add two notes.
First, the most frequently discussed is the terrestrial component of the aircraft - CB as a type of aircraft and its most numerous genus - MSV, in our case. The task is undoubtedly much broader.
Second. Undeservedly little attention is paid to assessing the level of combat properties of the body of a serviceman and taking measures to improve it, despite significant scientific achievements in the methodology of physical development, military, specialized and sports medicine, pharmacology, biomechanics and physiology, nutrition and human hygiene, and undoubtedly psychology. . This, in itself, is a strategic basic task, which, by the way, was developed in the USSR.

[AdAstra]

Here you read this and do not know what to do - whether to laugh or cry. Here with the ever-memorable warrior that he is only at parades, and already on the fourth they are swaying, or rather, as I believe, they are thinking as another "cutting firewood" in terms of money.

[Romanenko]

Well, yes, in the Legionnaire kit, our fighter will be able to survive artillery attacks, hits from small arms, OV, and so on ...
Waiting for reinforcements and ammunition to arrive

[Arifon]

Quote: astepanov

Oh how! Nano-drones!

[Alexey Lamonov]

What is the fourth generation. We cannot dress the new mobilized. At our own expense on AVITO uniform, armor, berets, etc. - WE BUY at our own expense at crazy prices. Someone again glosses over their inactivity.

[Amper]

You do not understand! This is business! Some give a reason (for a bribe), others push this reason into three-expensive! Everyone benefits! The man pays! Remember the letter W

[Bubuzon]

Better this way. We'll get to that soon.

[Petr_Koldunov]

If the Warrior is the second generation of equipment ... then in what generation did we fight, say, in the Transcaucasus in the 80s? (especially when you consider that since then, the equipment has changed at least twice) Minus the first?

[CYM]

Quote: AAK

as these kits did not exist, they will not be in the next decade

You do not understand, this is unparalleled. There are no analogues, which means that in the foreseeable future the product will exist in a single copy and most likely in the form of a dummy ... Our banana technologists must be taken literally.

[nikolai55soot]

On October 27.10.2014, 46, the Deputy Minister of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army, D.V. : portable charging system for electronic systems for military communications , exoskeletons , robots and many others . All these gentlemen during this time rolled Vanka or sent them to their masters abroad. Not long ago, a good person helped and made a report at the XNUMXth Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and said that the military are using / testing already / finished prototypes / products and somehow got lost. I hope they didn’t cut down the idea - invention, if they cut it down it would be a pity ....

[Georgy Sviridov_2]

Well, there won't be such a helmet. Breathing in it is impossible.
Such closed helmets can only be worn in airtight suits with a forced breathing mixture.

[Warrior MorePhoto]

And now what?
Watch the video from SEVEN years ago about the field camp - APL 500. Cool! But where?

[ShDE]

Until they switched to the 55th generation, at least the Warriors must be provided in abundance. Otherwise, you will have to shove these wonderful drawings under the Soviet helmet

[Amper]

The budget must be mastered! In the new outfit Ratnik, the fighters will drive the world-famous, unique, unparalleled Armata tank across Red Square on Victory Day in the war of 1941-45! r / s The proposal received, at least part of these funds to be directed to the equipment of the mobilized, did not find support at the top ..

[hector]

Also, the Sotnik will include an exoskeleton, active protection elements, and even domestically produced nano-pilots.

Really from Rosnano?

[anthrax.it]

They made me laugh. Now there is not enough equipment, but then they invented some kind of uber bullshit. Where is our army???

[Roman golubets]

domestic-made nano-pilots such bullshit does not exist in nature

[Alexander of Alexandria]

There are two problems in Russia: showing off and secrecy.

[newtc7]

Quote: Alexander of Alexandria

There are two problems in Russia: showing off and secrecy.

I would also add “systematic, thorough, methodical” work of the state machine.
She is so methodical that she needs 10 programs from related departments, 120 laws and 15 years of systematic work to produce a nail.

[OLEG CZIGANOV]

Yes, we are not really able to feed the conscripts, they buy uniforms with their own money, under Gorbachev, when everything disappeared, they said that there was sabotage, but now, as I understand it, it’s just sabotage at the very top, betrayal of the army, and they’re also showing off with new equipment , it will be the same as with the latest weapons, the money will go to someone’s offshore accounts

[Vlad Bel]

What kind of banter is that about French suits? Military correspondents are asking for underpants and socks for soldiers from the people. The oligarchs will export 243 billion dollars from Russia this year. So the army can be left without cowards. Well, or one for two.

[_Evolution_]

Did you eat too much henbane at the end? The Ministry of Defense has successfully “lost” 1,5 million sets, people dress with their own money, others collect to help, they partially obliged the subjects to put on shoes and clothes, but the ministry is talking nonsense. Maybe show us some starships for teaching staff? UAVs controlled by the power of the mind? Or maybe a self-assembled tablecloth instead of packed lunches? The people accepted all the hardships and adversities heroically, and here is another p... (I would say - they will ban). They went crazy! If we had waited a little, you’d see that the people would have forgotten the “magnificent” organization and the exorbitant care...

[Cottodraton]

Somewhere I once read that a “legionnaire” already existed and was created for the FSB

[tsvetahaki]

This is cool - just like those who were mobilized, they also received a name instead of equipment.

[Mikhail Ya2]

I wonder how much budget money they spent while they decided on the name?

[acetophenone]

I won’t even read about this exhibition nonsense. Advice to the author: change the record. This one has already been visited.

[Ulan.1812]

Why didn’t you have enough imagination to come up with a name from Russian history? Well, for example, a warrior, a warrior, a knight, etc.

[Gene8888]

What kind of developments can we talk about if those mobilized, if they want to survive, equip themselves with the most necessary things, including bulletproof vests, shoes, warm, clean underwear, first aid kits, and sleeping bags. And at this time, even Voentorg raised prices for equipment significantly. Maybe the Supreme Commander-in-Chief will explain to the people what is happening and why the state of the troops is this way.???!!! Several million police and security guards in the country. They are certainly better prepared than the current mobilizers who served 20 years ago. Where are the regular troops with 450 thousand contract soldiers???? What's happening??? Or is there some insidious task for the future of Russia that the current leadership is carrying out???,

[RaccoonSnake]

They couldn’t provide the army with “Ratnik”, so they decided to organize a new one. "Feast in Time of Plague".

[kakvastam]

The name has a smell...
I immediately remembered the armored car "The Punisher".
Yes, the whole story turns out to be in the spirit of “Armata” - the work is being done for parades and exhibitions, but the troops don’t even have enough old stuff.

[PROVINCIAL]

No one can explain now. A military secret. But if you still need to configure society to achieve certain goals, by distributing or hiding information in doses, this article “fits” perfectly.

[Dane]

Quote: FoBoss_V

Of course it's bad news. That is, the Warrior is in complete order, the troops are fully saturated with complete sets? And also mobilized. Have you also created mob reserves in the amount of 5 million sets? Well, Sotnik, of course, also passed state tests and was approved by the RF Ministry of Defense. It's the Legionnaire's turn, do I understand correctly? There’s one thing I can’t figure out: is this a circus tent with clowns, Kashchenko with luxury chambers, or is it still a surrealistic parallel reality? Can anyone explain this to me, colleagues?

This is sawing money and nothing more.....here in the photo is already 4 years in 2018. they demonstrated it back and promised to do it by 2020.... Apparently they haven’t thrown in enough money now and the name has been changed Ratnik...Sotnik...Legion....the process is underway)))

[Alexey Lantukh]

Another pie in the sky. It's better to have a bird in your hands.

[gafovec]

What crane? Letters from the name? Will there be a tit in twenty years? And the tit, brought to mind?

[fa2998]

Quote: ailcat

In close to complete configuration - on contract soldiers.
In the basic configuration (armor, helmet, backpack and / or unloading) - on volunteers, in the minimum configuration (helmet, armor) - on mobilized

Excuse me, but the complete set is only up to the Lord God? Or did it never go beyond the exhibitions? And another question - did the Defense Ministry (taxpayer) pay for the supply of the troops in full set, or is there grade 1,2,3, XNUMX, XNUMX? Maybe they will give you a belt, dressed in the “Warrior” of the extreme configuration..

[UAZ 452]

I think that we will see prototypes at exhibitions soon - they will order them from Mosfilm's props workshops.

[PROVINCIAL]

Hello! I wrote my comment immediately after reading the article. Despite the comments of other guests. Thematically they almost coincided. To answer your question: just cry.

[gafovec]

It is very important to come up with a name. VERY. Now everyone, beware, enemies.

[Gulo]

Warrior, centurion, legionnaire. And the boys going to war themselves buy uniforms, for which our “patriots” almost doubled the prices. Where this is all is unclear.

[Potato_Dictator]

And if we ignore Ukraine...
1) This legionnaire has been walking since 2016. Everyone is scared that uuuuuuuuuuuuuu is preparing...
2) The troops haven’t really seen a warrior yet (even if they carry the VKBO, and they give out 6sh112 for inspections, but... Kamon!!!), and they are already talking about new developments. Scary. And on top of everything else, where is the AK-12, where is the armata (at least), in real time???
Total: dust in the eyes and that’s all.