The Constitutional Court of Russia recognized as legal the signed agreements on the entry of new regions into the Russian Federation

The signed agreements on the entry of new regions into Russia are recognized as corresponding to the Constitution of the Russian Federation. The corresponding decision was made by the Constitutional Court of Russia. This was reported by the press service of the court.

On Saturday, October 1, 2022, the Russian press reported that international treaties on the admission of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions to the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation have been sent to Russia. Four appeals by the number of new regions for verification to the Constitutional Court were sent by Russian President Vladimir Putin. Today, the Constitutional Court issued its opinion, approving the package of signed documents.

For each appeal, the CC issued a conclusion as follows:

Recognize the international Treaty between the Russian Federation and the Donetsk People's Republic on the admission of the Donetsk People's Republic to the Russian Federation and the formation of a new subject within the Russian Federation that has not entered into force as corresponding to the Constitution of the Russian Federation. This resolution shall be immediately sent to the President of the Russian Federation

Three more conclusions are similar, only in relation to the LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions.

Recall that the signing of agreements on the entry of new regions into Russia as subjects of the Russian Federation was signed on September 30, 2022 in the Kremlin. On behalf of Russia, the documents were signed by Vladimir Putin, on behalf of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions - Denis Pushilin, Leonid Pasechnik, Evgeny Balitsky and Vladimir Saldo, respectively.

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[Vladimir Nizhegorodsky]

Welcome home DNR, LNR,
Kherson and Zaporozhye regions!!!!!
Victory will be ours!!!!
For Russia!!!!!

[neworange88]

.Recognize the international Treaty between the Russian Federation and the Donetsk People's Republic that has not entered into force on the admission of the Donetsk People's Republic to the Russian Federation and the formation of a new subject within the Russian Federation in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation. This resolution shall be immediately sent to the President of the Russian Federation

It is still early. It is written that international treaties have not yet entered into force. They must be ratified by the State Duma and the Federation Council. On the same day they will enter into force and the process of joining Russia will be completed. The Constitutional Court only recognized the treaties as such, checked for compliance with the law and gave a positive opinion on them. They say they comply with the law, but they still need to be ratified.

And here it is already said that they were accepted into Russia from the moment of signing. They contradict themselves.

.MOSCOW, October 2 - RIA Novosti. The Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions are considered adopted in the Russian Federation from the date of signing the agreements, follows from the text of the decisions of the Constitutional Court (CC) of the Russian Federation.
The Constitutional Court recognized the treaties on the admission of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, as well as the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, to the Russian Constitution, as in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

https://ria.ru/20221002/territorii-1820974049.html

It turns out already as part of Russia, but the treaties have not yet entered into force, since they have not been ratified by the State Duma and the Council of Federations.

[AAK]

Well, if the judge tried not to approve, it would be like in a new joke ... a call to the military registration and enlistment office, a male voice says, I'm Ivanov Ivan Ivanovich, then a summons came to my address, but I'm actually a judge .... through a couple of minutes into the phone the answer from the military enlistment office - no, you are a grenade launcher ..

[Sergej1972]

Judges will not receive summons, they are exempt from conscription and mobilization.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote from: neworange88

It turns out already as part of Russia, but the treaties have not yet entered into force

Heh... in some cities it is even worse and more unpleasant than you described: it turns out that it is already part of Russia, but under the Ukrainian flag and under the control of the military administrations of Ukraine. And Ukrainian invaders feel at home there ...

[Osipov9391]

What is important now is not that the Constitutional Court has fixed these legal and legal formalities.
But something else is important.
WILL THE Russian Army and Russia as a whole be able to completely liberate these regions, gain a foothold in them, move the front so that there are no shelling (so 100 kilometers from their borders) and reliably protect them?
Practice shows that most likely not - the events in the Kharkiv region, yesterday's departure from Liman and today's breakthrough in the Kherson region are clear confirmation of this.
And note that none of these 4 regions is 100% controlled by Russia.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine are still standing near Donetsk, even the capital of the region has not been taken with the Zaporozhye region.
It turns out that we harness the cart before the horse.

[1976AG]

"It turns out that we harness the cart before the horse"

This is a legal confirmation of the seriousness of our intentions, because both here and abroad, many thought that we would be forced to make concessions.

[Osipov9391]

Now it does not matter militarily. Partial mobilization is carried out and announced even before this procedure.
And what will happen next is unknown to anyone - it is clear that with the available forces + 300 thousand mobilized, this company cannot be changed significantly. And even to keep the territory of these 4 regions will be impossible.
And the war by the West will go to the complete exhaustion of our state until the waves of funerals are full and a severe crisis in the country will blow up the situation.
The West has the desire, material and financial resources.
Ukraine has motivation and human resources.
Therefore, the pressure will only intensify on their part.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Osipov9391

And even to keep the territory of these 4 regions will be impossible.

And then you can bang. In full accordance with the doctrine of the use of nuclear weapons.

[Bayun]

mark the "red line" radioactive? Perhaps this brutality will save more lives than the upcoming "100-year war."

[isv000]

Quote: Mordvin 3

And then you can bang. In full accordance with the doctrine of the use of nuclear weapons.

Does God know his own?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: isv000

Does God know his own?

Hardly.

[Osipov9391]

Read the Nonproliferation Treaty and the Budapest Memorandum. The first foundation of world security for more than half a century.
Both the USSR and Russia signed there.
It is clearly stated that the use of nuclear weapons by a nuclear power against a non-nuclear state is not allowed and is punishable.
Punishable by other nuclear powers that are parties to the agreements.
Depends on a situation.
This means that retaliatory strikes from Ukraine of equivalent power against equivalent targets are already on Russian territory.
And a written warning from other nuclear powers that you don't do this again if you don't want an escalation.
Although perhaps simpler and "gentle". The United States and Great Britain (they are security guarantors for Ukraine on papers) will simply liquidate the Budapest Memorandum and return nuclear status to Ukraine with the transfer of a limited number of their tactical charges.

[flicker]

And that means retaliatory strikes from Ukraine

Already funny. Do you think that in the event of our strike on Ukraine with nuclear weapons, she will be able to answer us?

Well it is.
In fact, we will strike nuclear weapons not in Ukraine, but in London. After that, the world will be on the verge of an exchange of nuclear strikes between the US and Russia.
The US will have a choice either to exchange blows and disappear there forever, or (to the delight of the whole world) to announce that a meteorite has fallen on London. He will choose the latter.
And what is most interesting is that the world will believe in it and support it in every possible way.

[Osipov9391]

Able to answer. All others have decided and will decide for her. But by her hands and from her territory.

And for the rest: we will get 3-4 dozen Tridents and hundreds of charges from British submarines on our heads. From the North Sea for example. Or from the Mediterranean.
Flat strikes will demolish all the most important objects in the European part of Russia with a minimum flight time.

[flicker]

Able to answer. All others have decided and will decide for her. But by her hands and from her territory.

It won't roll anymore. The situation has changed.

and hundreds of charges from British submarines.

We will not get anything from the British submarines, from the word at all, because the United States will not allow them.
Any British response is an exchange of blows between Russia and the US. The United States knows that our nuclear launchers are better and faster, and that our missile defense system is more effective and we have more territory.
Those. they are guaranteed a cap.
---
The best thing for them is to admit that a meteorite hit London.

[Osipov9391]

The entire British nuclear arsenal is part of NATO and US military planning. They distribute goals among themselves.
And the keys to the "Tridents" of the Royal Navy of Britain are only with the Prime Minister and the commanders of SSBNs on combat duty.
In certain circumstances, the decision to launch will be made by the SSBN commander.

[flicker]

The entire British nuclear arsenal is part of NATO and US military planning. They distribute goals among themselves.

They can and will distribute goals.

the decision to launch will be made by the SSBN commander

The key is one, another thing is that everyone has their own half.
The Prime Minister of Britain (unless of course he survives) will be obliged to coordinate this strike with NATO (read the United States), but they will not allow it, because they understand the consequences.
Moreover, if the British begin to arbitrarily, then the United States will beat them themselves.
---

[Osipov9391]

In the sense that the Prime Minister of Britain will coordinate the use of strategic nuclear forces with the President of the United States and the Secretary General of NATO, this is true.
But! Under certain conditions (the death of the first person and the person replacing him, the destruction of communication points, etc.), the decision to attack is made by the SSBN commanders on combat duty.
Opens the safe, takes out the prime minister's letter and follows the instructions that come with the letter.
Further, it will depend on the commander and the crew. Will they go on the attack or not (this option is also offered).
Or put the submarine under US command.

[Nastia makarova]

How many thousands or millions do you need?

[Osipov9391]

At least a million is needed. So that if not numerical superiority in human resources, then equal parity.
But it is impossible due to the capabilities of the state to collect and provide such a grouping.

And yes, more than one "combined-arms bicycle army" (hundreds of thousands of men) is now "storming" Abkhazia and Georgia.
Someone is "storming" Kazakhstan, trying to go there by steppe and mountain paths.

And this will affect the mobilization capabilities of Russia. We'll have to take either those who can not, or the sick.

[Nastia makarova]

Full of people for mobilization, the problem with the rear services

[Osipov9391]

That's the point. To provide a million-strong grouping, the whole country will have to work for it.
This means the withdrawal of fuel trucks and vehicles for the needs of the front. Almost everything you need will have to be taken from civilians.
The issue of gasoline at gas stations, groceries in stores and public transport will become acute, if not throughout the country then in the front-line regions.
Everything will be consumed by war.
And the case of the theft of one and a half million sets of uniforms is a clear proof of this.

[Nastia makarova]

today I saw the equipment that was loaded onto the platforms, they were Urals and Ural fuel trucks, but they looked creepy, the cabins were rusty in places and painted in paint that had already peeled off, apparently from conservation, it looked like they had been standing for 10 years under the sun, all burned out

[Osipov9391]

Such equipment will be virtually disposable - there is no time to restore it, and it’s really bad with repair plants.
This is what the mobilized will be imprisoned for. And then how lucky and how much they can use it.
If it stalls, they will be thrown on the sidelines as is practiced.

[Nastia makarova]

they also abandoned new equipment, the same trucks and fuel trucks, and the old ones can be

[YanniKounnar]

L'occident n'a pas les resources financière nous (la France) avons déjà une dette qui dépasse 3000 milliards d'euro, les taux intérêts vont augmenter comment faire face aux échéances ?
La ressource en "chair à canon" de l'Ukraine n'est pas illimitée non plus, des offensives qui se soldent par 3000, 6000 morts l'opinion public (même Ukrainienne) ne pourra pas le supporter indéfiniment (nous ne sommes plus en 1914/18).

The West has no financial resources, we (France) already have debt in excess of 3000 billion euros, interest rates will rise, how will we deal with maturities?
The resource of "cannon fodder" of Ukraine is also not unlimited, offensives that lead to the deaths of 3000, 6000 people, public opinion (even Ukrainian) will not be able to endure indefinitely (now it is not 1914/18).

[Osipov9391]

The West is primarily the United States. There is everything for this. And the printing press, and the closed military-industrial complex, and developed logistics, and political will.
And it was the United States that gave Lend-Lease to Ukraine. And it is they who give money for all this.

And they will give. Because they perfectly understand how this weakens Russia and harms it.

[begemot20091]

Human resources ... I wonder how much you evaluate them for a country where the population today, at most, is 25 million - we divide it in half (there is, of course, a methodology, but we are simple) \u12,5d 4,5 - men: children, old people, adult men (not pensioners.). It turns out, approximately, 1 million Someone is working, someone is sick, someone is oblique, crooked, hunchbacked Total 1,5-1 million is the entire mobile reserve. Throw back the police, the SBU, the Ministry of Emergency Situations let XNUMX million. How much, how much, already in the war, how much they buried ... Calculate for yourself ... It's interesting to hear an opinion (just don't take into account the old military registration and enlistment office documents)

[Osipov9391]

You don't think right. The population of Ukraine today is not less than 30 million people.
Some left but returned.
Let 10% of them be liable for military service. This is 2,8-3 million people. Suppose that 1.9-2 million people can be sent directly to the front to approximately 800 thousand already existing ones (including mercenaries).
There are about 3 million human resources there. And the rest will be provided by the West.

Even if we assume the incredible that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will lose 50-70 thousand people per month, then calculate how many years of the war these human resources of 2.5-3 million people will last.
Only after the departure of 10% of the population of the state will the depletion of human resources begin.

[begemot20091]

I repeat: the population of the outskirts is less than 25 million today. for 2020 including Crimea and Donbas = About 43 million people, the exact number is not calculated by any department. According to the CIA estimates set out in the Book of Facts, the population of Ukraine is 43,22 million people = Donetsk region 4, Kherson region = 131, Lugansk region = 808, let half of Zaporizhzhya 1 / 027 = 913 , part of the Nikolaev and Kharkov (little) Crimea with Sevastopol more than 2 million people. According to OSCE estimates, about 135 million went abroad. By the end of the Great Patriotic War in 913, the Armed Forces of the USSR numbered more than 1 people. This is with a population of the USSR of 687 million people

[Victor Shershnev]

What "seriousness of intentions" are you talking about?!
Get back to reality!

7 months, and Donetsk under fire. You can't go any further...

This is absolute irresponsibility and monstrous adventurism!
Even 22 years ago it was clear that the West would not leave Russia alone. That Russia must be strong!
Clear - but not for Putin. He went on collapse industrial and scientific potential !!!
And even with the beginning of the NWO, he did not take measures to effectively mobilize the economy, reduce the key rate, etc.
Putin's policy is irresponsible, adventurous and leads to the abyss!
We need the most decisive and organized systemic measures, not Putin-United Russia relaxed .

[Quote Lavrov]

Well, then a very important horse named "Rating"!
Therefore, after the events in the Kharkov direction, she urgently had to be treated.
Otherwise, the LDNR would have been part of Russia for 8 years already ...

[olegactor]

WILL THE Russian Army and Russia as a whole be able to completely liberate these regions, gain a foothold in them, move the front so that there are no shelling (so 100 kilometers from their borders) and reliably protect them?
Practice shows that most likely not - the events in the Kharkiv region, yesterday's departure from Liman and today's breakthrough in the Kherson region are clear confirmation of this.

but don’t hesitate .... look first how ukrozhops in the Kherson region were again sent to Bandera to wait

[Asad]

Where have you looked? At Konoshekov?

[Vita vko]

Quote: Osipov9391

putting the cart before the horse

There is a slight mismatch. It was more logical after the accession of 4 regions to Russia to declare mobilization in order to release them and ensure security.
But + - a couple of weeks does not play a special role. Moreover, the mobilization is already very late.

Quote: Osipov9391

CAN THE RUSSIAN ARMY

Not a problem at all. The main problem that the Russian headquarters are now solving is saving the lives of civilians and minimizing damage to infrastructure. As you understand, it is extremely problematic to attack the territory where the angry and brainwashed population will live. And here are just 4 such illustrative examples, 4 new Russian regions with a significant improvement in living standards and security.

[AdAstra]

And if you fight sparing the enemy soldiers and the entire infrastructure and do not spare your soldiers, then there will be no one to protect civilians.

[Osipov9391]

What forces are going to attack on such a vast territory if they are barely holding back the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine both in the Donbass and near Kherson?
All that is possible Russia has already used.
Yesterday, for example, the carrier of the "Dagger" crashed in Belbek.
Near Zaporozhye, a Ka-52 was damaged from MANPADS.
Su-34 shot down from MANPADS near Liman.
And many other things that are not good.

Ukraine is oversaturated with anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons, which minimizes the main advantage of the Russian army (aviation and armored vehicles).
Saturating Ukraine with Western tanks, MLRS, OTRK and air defense systems will further complicate the task.

[Alien From]

Harnessed! for over 20 years now. Donkeys are our everything.

[albert1907]

So have you already tried on blinders? Well, then you have a great trip!

[yakisam]

Of course he can
The Russian army has extensive experience in holding the liberated territories
Here in Galicia in 1914 the Slavic brothers were liberated from the Austrian Teutons
Throughout the winter of 1914-15 they celebrated the liberation
Then, in the spring of 1915 ... they systematically straightened the front, giving up the territory of the Russian Empire 7 times more than it was originally ... the Austrian one was liberated.
All the generals who "saved" this front were the Sovereign Most Highly Graceful. Decayed soldiers were also marked. True, they did not notice. Because they are already rotten.
So there is experience, the army is even called with the same words. "The Russia we have lost", "Forgive us, Sovereign..." - after all, such slogans were used for the last 25 years of "getting up from your knees"?
So for sure it can. Straighten and protect.

[guest]

Quote: Osipov9391

WILL THE Russian Army and Russia as a whole be able to completely liberate these regions, gain a foothold in them, move the front so that there are no shelling (so 100 kilometers from their borders) and reliably protect them?

The army will not even be able to doubt it, but for this, it must finally untie its hands.

[Nickelium]

It can, but it's a matter of time. I will even say more: we have a question with the Nikolaev region: will it be included or will it stop at the attached sites.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Osipov9391

It turns out that we harness the cart before the horse.

Russians harness for a long time, but they drive fast

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: Osipov9391

What is important now is not that the Constitutional Court has fixed these legal and legal formalities.
But something else is important.

And what is it?

Quote: Osipov9391

WILL THE Russian Army and Russia as a whole be able to completely liberate these regions, gain a foothold in them, move the front so that there are no shelling (so 100 kilometers from their borders) and reliably protect them?

Russia made it clear to other regions of Ukraine that it not only liberates the territories from Nazism, but also includes them, along with the population, into its composition.
This is a signal to the pro-Russian Ukrainians that we are coming from the outside, and you will support from the inside.

Quote: Osipov9391

Practice shows that most likely not - the events in the Kharkiv region, yesterday's departure from Liman and today's breakthrough in the Kherson region are clear confirmation of this.
And note that none of these 4 regions is 100% controlled by Russia.

This is nothing more than "peramoga at the tactical level." There are no victories without defeats!

Quote: Osipov9391

And the war by the West will go to the complete exhaustion of our state until the waves of funerals are full and a severe crisis in the country will blow up the situation.

Well, you broke through - the "wind of freedom" immediately blew!

There will be no war of attrition, but there will be a transfer of the NMD to military operations on the territory of Ukraine.
And first of all, they will destroy all bridges, power plants and cut off gas. This will be enough for the rest of Ukraine to "sober up". They wanted to fight to the last Ukrainian - this can be arranged without hostilities, by setting up a besieged Leningrad throughout the rest of the territory of Ukraine!

Let's see if Ukraine is ready to die for lacy panties. We were convinced that we were ready to go into frontal attacks on the front line. It's time for the civilians to present an account and stop the other "blizzard about the brotherly people."

And the West will help you with electricity, gas, food and ... lace underpants. Naturally, they will help, but only on the territory of their countries and at their own expense!

[spirit]

Inform the Padishah-Emperor that part of these territories were handed over to the enemy the next day. I understand that such politicians should not look for reason and common sense, the guys live in a world of dreams and fantasies, pretending to be Great Emperors. of this lethargic dream, then from the world of Pink ponies you can quickly find yourself at the bottom of the "Acid Barrel" like some predecessors

[dmi.pris1]

And this Constitutional Court does not think to recognize the liquidation of the USSR as illegal? Or is it something completely different?

[Plate]

Why would this court deal with such matters? First, does he have the authority to do so? Secondly, who needs this trial? Thirdly, even if he starts to understand this, what do you expect?

[Roust]

Hope we can get started now. God with us!

[Quote Lavrov]

Yes. I think that somewhere tomorrow, from 11 o'clock and start. Well, maximum - from 12.25.
With the same people in positions, the same economy, politicians, commanders, ministers, oligarchs... let's start like this!

[Plate]

Well, who, who, but the commanders, I would not run into. In my opinion, they are fully fulfilling their main task: there seem to be no reports of major losses in the personnel of the RF Armed Forces. Plus, they gain experience. An experienced professional is invaluable.

[Quote Lavrov]

Well, how can I say - commanders are not only platoon and company ... there are links much higher.
And about the losses, I'm sorry, I think I'm not ready to discuss this topic

[Hanurik]

When fighting the Nazis, you don't have to become Nazis yourself.

[Asad]

Royst You confused the site, God is with us, it is written on Wehrmacht badges.

[Mordvin 3]

How the constitutional court works hard! Seven days a week! Did the borders at least mark the annexed territories?

[Dikson]

And the court does not want to ask anything now from the military leaders for surrendering the territory of the "new region" to the enemy?

[Plate]

We inform you that such matters are not within the jurisdiction of this court.

[v1tz]

It's time to demonstrate in practice that these are our regions, it is already necessary to take off the "white gloves", roll up the sleeves from above and below.

[Alexander Soviet Union]

Quote: spirit

Inform the Padishah-Emperor that part of these territories were handed over to the enemy the next day. I understand that such politicians should not look for reason and common sense, the guys live in a world of dreams and fantasies, pretending to be Great Emperors. of this lethargic dream, then from the world of Pink ponies you can quickly find yourself at the bottom of the "Acid Barrel" like some predecessors

Not so easy to report. Even if Ramzan Kadyrov cannot get through not only to Him, but even to less senior officials in the Ministry of Defense

[faiver]

another political show, someone thought that he could not admit it?

[Nephilim]

The Constitutional Court of Russia recognized as legal the signed agreements on the entry of new regions into the Russian Federation

And there was an option - what does not recognize?

[Blackmokona]

Quote from Nephilim

The Constitutional Court of Russia recognized as legal the signed agreements on the entry of new regions into the Russian Federation

And there was an option - what does not recognize?

Well, there was a microscopic chance, after which the composition of the Constitutional Court would completely change to a new one and would already be recognized as legal.

[Nephilim]

Well, there was a microscopic chance

I'm even afraid to imagine the size of the microscope, in which this chance can be considered.

[Blackmokona]

Quote from Nephilim

Well, there was a microscopic chance

I'm even afraid to imagine the size of the microscope, in which this chance can be considered.

Hold on, a wonderful electron microscope, in which you can try to see the separation of powers in Russia, between the executive, the legislature and the judiciary.

[dmi.pris1]

At one time, it was that he did not recognize it. But this is with EBN ...

[Olga]

All true.
This option should never be ruled out. See what's going on in TG. As someone is trying to "under the guise" to establish their influence through the masses of "dissatisfied". They bring confusion.
Just as it is impossible to exclude INWITNESS betrayal in the struggle for the opportunity to overthrow the government and the system.
The system is, of course, never perfect. Here, just some hotheads in an effort to "put things in order" as if the country's head was not demolished.
You know, there is a saying "The best is the enemy of the good".

[dmi.pris1]

I'm not talking about the COP. Do you think that it's "good" at the front and there's no need to demand "better"?

[Olga]

Quote: dmi.pris

Do you think that it is "good" at the front and there is no need to demand "better"

I think this is a rhetorical question

Quote: dmi.pris

And the head of the country can be demolished precisely under the cries of "URYA!"

They can. It depends on who and when shouts this "URYA!".
Are you sure that you have figured it out well and you can firmly say that this is the most "URYA!" should the current DISSATISFIED shout after receiving power?
I don't have the same confidence as you.

[dmi.pris1]

And what? The dissatisfied seek to seize power.? On the contrary, they can push the authorities to make the right decisions. Like, for example, with mobilization ... Although it is scanty and often stupid

[Olga]

May be. In general, I strongly doubt that Prigozhin does not have the opportunity to bring his point of view to the commander in chief. Considering that he has received construction contracts since 2000 and has developed his business quite well. Maybe he is the lever of the commander-in-chief (after all, no one has canceled sabotage in the upper echelons - such GDPs also need to be defeated somehow). Or maybe, on the contrary, he felt a chance to take off. Then it's sad. And, then, I would like to ask: where was our hero in the 90s and 2000s, when the country was dying, when Shoigu and Putin were taking batteries to the north of the country on airplanes so that people would not freeze.

[dmi.pris1]

I will add ... Regarding today's controversy with the participation of officials on the occasion of the retreat from Krasny Liman.
I remembered.

"Tov. Stalin. The play "Front" published in the press deserves special attention. This play has been harming us for centuries. It needs to be removed and the author held accountable. The perpetrators in this regard should be sorted out. Timoshenko, 28.08.1942/XNUMX/XNUMX.

***

"Owls. Secret
Northwestern Front, to Marshal Timoshenko

I received your telegram about Korneichuk's play The Front.
You are wrong about the play. The play will be of great educational value for the Red Army and its commanders. The play correctly points out the shortcomings of the Red Army, and it would be wrong to turn a blind eye to these shortcomings. You need to have the courage to admit shortcomings and take steps to eliminate them. This is the only way to improve and perfect the Red Army.
I. STALIN, 28.08.1942/XNUMX/XNUMX.

It will be interesting to see what conclusions will be drawn from the situation that followed the breakthroughs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Balakleya. Well, apart from mobilization.

[Bayun]

Unfortunately, we - the townsfolk in Russia - know the political situation in the USA and Europe much better than in our homeland. What is on the minds of our "unknown fathers", whether they are in conflict with world Globalism or play the role of an "evil policeman" in the destruction of the old world order - one goblin knows.

Do they want Russian national greatness, or to sit at the round table of the world government - UNKNOWN.

[Alexander Soviet Union]

We squeeze out territories on paper, and they return them to themselves on the battlefield. At least that's what the picture looks like today. What's next? Shall we make a strong protest?

[Plate]

Quote: Alexander Soviet Union

and they return them to themselves on the battlefield.

So, how is everything back?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Plate

Quote: Alexander Soviet Union

and they return them to themselves on the battlefield.

So, how is everything back?

The government should not hesitate. Once having chosen the road, it must, without looking back to the right and left, go to the end. Quotes by Bismarck About Russia

[Plate]

But how can you not hesitate?) There are so many experts on VO, in VK groups and Telegram channels, and everyone needs to be listened to ...

[albert1907]

Do you think you can find a piece of gold in the garbage dumps ... Well, well ...

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Plate

But how can you not hesitate?) There are so many experts on VO, in VK groups and Telegram channels, and everyone needs to be listened to ...

If you listen to all the advice, then you will not have time to do anything ..

[yuriy55]

The Constitutional Court of Russia recognized as legal the signed agreements on the entry of new regions into the Russian Federation

And we don’t get other courts for nothing, and don’t get money with money ...

[parusnik]

"We haven't really started to fight yet" (c)
Listen, does anyone know what this super-weapon is - REALLY?

[AdAstra]

No, because uuuu is very secret

[dmi.pris1]

But it turns out to fight NON-CLEARLY .. Also a "weapon" AND more terrible INTELLIGENCE

[Zadok]

heh. those. earlier, on mobilization, an ordinary could count on at least 200 thousand. and now "native, this is the territory of the Russian Federation, here you are, fuck off." great move)) uncle Vova is cunning

[Quote Lavrov]

Only I couldn’t find today on VO the end of an article with a huge number of comments on the analysis of the plot of Klim Zhukov’s video blog?

Well, or I failed in the search ...

[Ros 56]

It's a good thing, if only these regions would not be disappointed in our authorities, there is too much chaos and various idiots in our leadership.

[tatra]

Yes, no one in Ukraine, or in the world, recognizes this. Even Lukashenko does not recognize. This only gave rise to ridicule, such as Liman entered the Russian Federation, and immediately left. And so it will be every time the military of the Russian Federation will retreat.
But Putin can now send conscripts to these 4 territories, not pay the mobilized the big money that they were promised. Here, they already write in the Telegram that the proposal to pay 300 thousand rubles to the mobilized has been withdrawn from the State Duma.

[Junior Private]

You are beginning to blur the line between holy communism and general liberal hysteria.

[Prjanik]

Absolutely naklast who there what in the world recognizes / does not recognize. Now these 4 regions are our land, like the Crimea, the Kursk region or the Krasnoyarsk Territory, and we will fight it off no matter what the whole country

[kravch67k]

I can hardly believe in the incredible heroism of Petya from Chita for the sake of Russian Kherson.

[Prjanik]

And what's the difference Kherson or Chita, if it's all Russia. And you don’t need to row everyone one size fits all, it’s enough for Petrov to voluntarily come without a summons, but of course there are Petya who flee to Georgia, leaving their home and wife and children in Chita

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Prjanik

And what's the difference Kherson or Chita, if it's all Russia.

So for the consciousness of many, Singing Kherson has been Ukrainian all his life, and it is not clear to them what we have forgotten there.

[Prjanik]

Moreover, for many, Russia is generally limited to their native region, or their city, or specifically their home, depending on how much responsibility a person has. But this does not prevent a person from living in a state, according to its laws, including paying military debt to the state. Moreover, it is not a secret for anyone that fighting there, in the Donbass, Kherson, even when they were not yet Russia, in the end we still fought with the enemy for the existence of our country

[albert1907]

And where would your heroism go if the NATO pack climbed into our country from all the cracks? Probably, they would have found a way to prepare Russia for the liberation from Polynesia, with arrows and spears?

[Bayun]

perishing "work hard", please, BELIEVE!

If "Petya from Chita" did not go to fight for "Kolya from Zaporozhye" and vice versa. There would be no Russia! She would have had nowhere to go. It would be a banal patchwork euroquilt of non-states under the patronage of a foreign "hegemon".

[Vladimir M]

Now they are trying to explain the failures in Ukraine by the fact that we are, like, at war with all of NATO. For some reason, I did not see either the divisions of the US Army, or the tank brigades of the Polish Army ... or the 6th US Fleet participating in the hostilities. Yes, NATO supplies weapons, provides target designation, Anglo-Saxon civilian satellites are working for Ukraine, mercenaries from NATO countries are fighting, but there are no regular units of NATO armies there. Nevertheless, mercenaries, no matter how many there are and no matter how tough warriors they are, should not "drive" the regular army, unless of course it is the army of a third world country with spears. But after all, someone is to blame for the fact that we cannot provide our units with target designations in real time, that we have neither drones nor AWACS aircraft. And this one has a first and last name. They sank the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet for us, they undermine gas pipelines, and we are afraid to shoot down their AWACS aircraft. And if you had to fight with NATO armies, they would already be on Red Square, and Abramovich would meet with flowers and set tables. It turns out that in Ukraine we are at war with ourselves, in such a war, if nothing is changed (and here 300 thousand mobilized people will not help), it will not be possible to win. The chief reindeer herder said that we have armed forces brigades staffed and of constant combat readiness, but they are not in Ukraine, yes, there are separate units of these brigades, but there are no full-fledged brigades there - separate units of these brigades and PMCs, SOBR, police of the DPR and LPR, all are fighting those who should not fight with regular troops. It turns out that either the chief reindeer breeder was lying about the brigades of constant combat readiness, or they were "put down" near Kyiv, Chernigov, Sumy ...

[Prjanik]

Well, they are not going to fight with us with personnel brigades, since this is already an obvious participation in the war, and the war itself is nuclear. Therefore, they fight as vacationers and recruit regular military personnel to PMCs in Ukraine, especially competent officers, both in Poland and in the USA, everything is official there

[albert1907]

Or maybe you can organize a study tour to the Wagnerites?

[Vladimir M]

Dear, what does the tourist trip to the Wangerites have to do with it? PMCs should not fight in direct combat with the regular army, this is not their specificity. Deliver single, painful blows, yes. You can hammer nails with a microscope - you can hammer a nail, or you can break a microscope.

[Mint Gingerbread]

Even through the State Duma and the Federation Council must pass before the final approval. Perhaps after the end of all procedures, they will make some decisions.

[Junior Private]

Well done. Operatively. Now the near-red lines are over, at least legally.

[kravch67k]

These red lines remind me of a blonde and a traffic light. Then they will say they are not so beautiful.

[Buyan]

Congratulations!!! We have been waiting for a long time, it's time to go home ... Oh, and now there is so much to restore

[Konstantin Anatolievich]

Clowning in its purest form. Too bad you can't swear here.

[Krilion]

I'm afraid until the State Duma ratifies all the necessary documents, there will be nothing left of the annexed territories ... Russia has never seen such a shame and such a mediocre command ...

[Drotro]

This is what we are talking about. Recognize, but do not withhold.
What is the meaning of all this. Holiday about what.
There is still a lot of tin ahead of us, apparently.

[kravch67k]

Poor things, they work without days off. How can you analyze so quickly?

[isv000]

All this is fine, but why so slow?! They left the St. George Hall - everyone went to the Duma, by the morning - please, gentlemen, the Senate, ratify it, and there the Constitutional Court is nearby, in short - by Saturday afternoon all the formalities could be settled. After dinner - an order from the Supreme to "big bang!". Get some sleep...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: isv000

and there the COP is nearby, in short - by Saturday afternoon all the formalities could be settled.

No, the COP in St. Petersburg.

[isv000]

Quote: Mordvin 3

No, the COP in St. Petersburg.

But not in Vladivostok! To anoint one place with kerosene, and they would have had time there!

[Vladimir100]

It is interesting - will there be a redistribution of property and will the mafia from the former repainted servants of Ukraine and corrupt officials be removed from power in the LPR, or will they again bet on them, as in 14-15 years?

[isv000]

Quote: Vladimir100

It is interesting - will there be a redistribution of property and will the mafia from the former repainted servants of Ukraine and corrupt officials be removed from power in the LPR, or will they again bet on them, as in 14-15 years?

I would bet on them. To catch catfish on them ...

[Sergey Drozdov]

Well, thank God that they recognized it, otherwise we were very worried, suddenly - no ...

[Private SA]

Quote: dmi.pris

I received your telegram about Korneichuk's play The Front.

"Back in USSR" "The Beatles" listened to with pleasure.

[isv000]

Quote: Private SA

Quote: dmi.pris

I received your telegram about Korneichuk's play The Front.

"Back in USSR" "The Beatles" listened to with pleasure.

Did it seem to you that the new Union dawned? Kazakhs spoil raspberries here ...

[Peaceful SEO]

Quote: Plate

We inform you that such matters are not within the jurisdiction of this court.

This, ahem... man... this information is not interesting, his task is the only one and very clear - to croak in the direction of the Russian authorities for any reason. And his colleagues have a wagon and a rather big cart

[gansales]

OK it's all over Now !!! Whineers, yes you whine at least how much

[Altmann]

All Western Europe denies justice. Believe me, you are doing a good deed, but you will still get revenge. Perhaps only the force of the first blow will tell where the truth is.