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The work of Russian artillery on the advancing enemy armored vehicles in the Kherson direction was caught on video

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The work of Russian artillery on the advancing enemy armored vehicles in the Kherson direction was caught on video

A video of an attempt by armored vehicles to attack the defense line of Russian troops in the Kherson direction appeared on the Web. The attack was carried out the day before from Novovorontsovka in the direction of Khreschenovka and Lyubimovka. This was previously reported by "Military Review" in one of its news materials.


As previously reported, the enemy made an attempt to break through our defenses with the development of the offensive in the event of successful actions, but ran into an artillery strike. Participated in the counterattack tank battalion supported by an infantry battalion. It is specified that Polish T-72M1 tanks went on the attack, they were supported by BMP-1 and YPR-765 armored personnel carriers (American M113) received from the Netherlands.

The reconnaissance of the Russian Armed Forces detected the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, after which an artillery strike was inflicted on them, they also worked out the Grad MLRS. Previously, the attack bogged down after the enemy lost a large number of armored vehicles. All this happened the day before, the fighting continued at night.

Meanwhile, the information that appeared in the morning in this direction varies greatly. There is no official data, and unofficial ones report completely different information. According to some reports, the Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked at night, throwing up to 150 armored vehicles, including tanks, at Russian positions, broke through the first line of defense of Russian troops and ran into the second. It is alleged that N. p. Golden Balka. Approximately the same information is given by Strelkov, he reports that the Armed Forces of Ukraine launched an offensive along the Dnieper and occupied Zolotaya Balka. It was at night, there is no information for the morning.

Interesting information comes from Kyiv. The source reports that Zelensky was planning a covert offensive in the Kherson direction using a large armored group in the first wave, but the Russian troops were waiting for this and struck at the advancing troops, after which the offensive bogged down. Now in Kyiv they are dispersing the topic of "recaptured from the enemy" villages, but these territories were already under the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Bankova was immediately accused of creating fake illusions, because these territories have long been under the Armed Forces of Ukraine and are far from the battle line

- says the source.


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  1. Pulkovo1942
    Pulkovo1942 2 October 2022 10: 22
    +47
    Videos like this just make me feel bad. The enemy is marching in columns - that's where Gerani and their ilk are needed. And Krasnopol has already run out, they are laying mines with underflight flights.
    1. gansales
      gansales 2 October 2022 10: 36
      -21
      Quote: Pulkovo1942
      Videos like this just make me feel bad. The enemy is marching in columns

      This is what the fifth column in Russia is counting on with the support of the world media, etc. To sow panic and raise protests inside Russia, etc. All these schemes are already familiar in Russia!
      Guys, do not succumb to provocations and remember this and how everything can end for Russia .. Don't let these devils lead you to emotions ..

      Russia Focuses and Concentrates on the Western Threat soldier
      Calmly without panic and tantrums of traitors who have gathered here in a gang .. Everything will be fine! hi
      1. zloybond
        zloybond 2 October 2022 11: 05
        +13
        Everything is fine. The people simply listened only to Konashenkov's jingoism and accounting reports. And the fact that up to 30 people remained from our battalions was considered nonsense and cissos stuffing. And now, without pink glasses, I had to observe withdrawals to more advantageous positions ... and so on. The fact that they are rapidly recruiting mobilized people and sending another week later to the LBS does not fit with the stories about the 3rd echelon. Apparently there is no other one.
        1. levfuks
          levfuks 2 October 2022 13: 00
          +8
          Quote: zloybond
          The people simply listened only to Konashenkov's jingoism and accounting reports.

          M-yes. Judging by the video, everything is fine with the armored vehicles of the almost defeated Ukrainian army.
          Quote: zloybond
          stories about the 3rd echelon. Apparently there is no other.

          The second was collected by barrels. Or maybe it was the second armored train?
          1. krot
            krot 2 October 2022 18: 03
            +6
            that's where Gerani and the like are needed.

            I agree with you completely .. You watch and go nuts how everyone goes back intact .. except for one thing .. There are many different options for precision weapons that work on armored vehicles. But where are they? Where are hurricanes with a cassette part against armored vehicles homing?
            Did you drink it all?
        2. gansales
          gansales 2 October 2022 13: 58
          -12
          Quote: zloybond
          Everything is fine. The people simply listened only to Konashenkov's jingoism and accounting reports. And the fact that up to 30 people remained from our battalions was considered nonsense and cissos stuffing. And now, without pink glasses, I had to observe withdrawals to more advantageous positions ... and so on. The fact that they are rapidly recruiting mobilized people and sending another week later to the LBS does not fit with the stories about the 3rd echelon. Apparently there is no other one.

          Licked? Well done .. The runner is clearly from the Tashkent front! hi
        3. The comment was deleted.
        4. ilya.muromczev2013
          ilya.muromczev2013 3 October 2022 03: 30
          0
          Painful... What are you singing about the "people"? How do you know that people are listening to us, and whether we have a "3rd echelon" or not - if (judging by the whining) you have nothing to do with our people? ... What is Konashenkov lying about? If he is lying, then why has the fourth wave of mobilization already taken place in Ukraine, are they collecting old helicopters and tanks from all the countries of the former Warsaw Pact, where did their fleet go, why is NATO supplying them with weapons, etc.? Who destroyed it all? The Pope?... Who liberated the LPR, occupied the Kherson region, almost all of Zaporozhye, most of the DPR? Alarmists are shot during the war - it’s good that now articles are being introduced into the Criminal Code again. I would add to them temporarily shut up "fighters against the bloody Putin regime", who are even worse than enemies, because they sing with them in unison ... By the way, from which - their first, or their second?
      2. Quote Lavrov
        Quote Lavrov 2 October 2022 11: 42
        +16
        I have long wanted to ask - who do you understand by the term "fifth column"? And the feeling that everyone except yourself.
        1. lwxx
          lwxx 2 October 2022 11: 52
          +8
          Quote: Quote Lavrov
          I have long wanted to ask - who do you understand by the term "fifth column"? And the feeling that everyone except yourself.
          You just haven’t been on the site for so long, and the old-timers have known this character for a long time, mikhalych changes nicknames. And they no longer pay attention to him, there are still such people here, so do not take to heart the statement of these screamers.
          1. Quote Lavrov
            Quote Lavrov 2 October 2022 11: 57
            -1
            Colleague, I would not say that I am new to the site))))
            1. gansales
              gansales 2 October 2022 15: 12
              -4
              Quote: Quote Lavrov
              Colleague, I would not say that I am new to the site))))

              Israel? hehe I can smell it
              1. Quote Lavrov
                Quote Lavrov 2 October 2022 15: 29
                0
                The headquarters of the NSA in Israel under the cover of MI6, to be precise)))
                1. gansales
                  gansales 2 October 2022 15: 37
                  -3
                  Quote: Quote Lavrov
                  The headquarters of the NSA in Israel under the cover of MI6, to be precise)))

                  Oh well ..
        2. gansales
          gansales 2 October 2022 13: 08
          -7
          Quote: Quote Lavrov
          I have long wanted to ask - who do you understand by the term "fifth column"? And the feeling that everyone except yourself.

          Well, for example, you are here .. aching hi
          Your nickname is interesting .. Here some flags of the USSR are hung and other attributes of the USSR And they crap, crap on our history, etc.
          You are happy ? I have studied these here well for 10 years!
          So it's hard to stumble and put me down here hehe
          But I immediately see yours here by the tactics of writing and all sorts of little things of questionnaires and manuals hehe ..
          Of course, I’m offended that I don’t have support .. But I see the former “brother” clearly and I will beat !!!
          1. Quote Lavrov
            Quote Lavrov 2 October 2022 13: 31
            -1
            1. Can you find out the main "milestones" of your history and the most prominent personalities who had the greatest positive impact on it?

            2.
            So it's hard to stumble and put me down here hehe

            That is, it is difficult, but in principle, it is possible?
            1. gansales
              gansales 2 October 2022 13: 51
              -7
              Quote: Quote Lavrov
              1. Can you find out the main "milestones" of your history and the most prominent personalities who had the greatest positive impact on it?

              Putin ha ha Let's kick the crowd.
              I studied your provocateur brother very well here
              Quote: Quote Lavrov
              That is, it is difficult, but in principle, it is possible?

              You can hold a woman by the frog .. Understand!?
              1. Quote Lavrov
                Quote Lavrov 2 October 2022 13: 58
                +3
                1.
                Putin ha ha

                Are you mocking our President, or what???!!!! So it turns out that you are the very fifth column that you have been looking for for so long! And all this time you were hiding under the guise of a true patriot!!
                Here he is the real grin of the right CIPSO!
                2.
                You can hold a grandmother by the frog

                - in the original - "Masha";
                - Frog.

                By the way, that’s right, you are TsIPSOshnikov and are taught to identify - in everyday expressions that ordinary Russians know - patriots, but they don’t know the enemy who did not serve in our army (that’s where the saying comes from), who didn’t watch our films.

                All right, your cover is completely blown. Hurry up to eat Yarosh's business card
                1. gansales
                  gansales 2 October 2022 14: 27
                  -4
                  Quote: Quote Lavrov
                  1.
                  Putin ha ha

                  Are you mocking our President, or what???!!!! So it turns out that you are the very fifth column that you have been looking for for so long! And all this time you were hiding under the guise of a true patriot!!
                  Here he is the real grin of the right CIPSO!
                  2.
                  You can hold a grandmother by the frog

                  - in the original - "Masha";
                  - Frog.

                  By the way, that’s right, you are TsIPSOshnikov and are taught to identify - in everyday expressions that ordinary Russians know - patriots, but they don’t know the enemy who did not serve in our army (that’s where the saying comes from), who didn’t watch our films.

                  All right, your cover is completely blown. Hurry up to eat Yarosh's business card

                  No more questions I hope whiner?
                  Or do you still want to poke .. Go on, they have been waiting for you there for a long time ..
                  PS And you don't need to mow under ours here .. What nickname do you have, that's who you are And you don't need to mow a horse!
                  1. Quote Lavrov
                    Quote Lavrov 2 October 2022 14: 37
                    -1
                    Quiet, quiet, colleague! So what's the hysteria? I just showed you myself an example of communication and the "depth" of arguments like you!
                    1. gansales
                      gansales 2 October 2022 15: 18
                      -5
                      Quote: Quote Lavrov
                      Quiet, quiet, colleague!

                      Well, I'm not your colleague. This is 100%!
                      Quote: Quote Lavrov
                      So what's the hysteria? I just showed you myself an example of communication and the "depth" of arguments like you!

                      Well, well, Israeli tactics ..
                      How familiar laughing
                      I've been reading you here cunning ..
                      Let's continue and Svidomo support you right here, I look ..
                      And I'm calm .. So Russia is going the right way! And I'm glad and proud of my country
                      This is how we live, chew bread, men!
        3. sofkar
          sofkar 2 October 2022 17: 32
          +6
          Quote: Quote Lavrov
          I have long wanted to ask - who do you understand by the term "fifth column"? And the feeling that everyone except yourself.

          Quote from gansales
          inadvertently pass?

          I made up my mind for myself. I think that for Gonzalez, the 5th column is all those who make 4 mistakes in the word outrageous and write in a rush.
          Seriously, it is very sad that the level of general literacy, as well as the ability to think critically, is inversely correlated with "thoughtless frenzied patriotism."
      3. smart ass
        smart ass 2 October 2022 12: 50
        -5
        Forgotten at the end of the triple uryayaya! Uryayaya
        1. gansales
          gansales 2 October 2022 13: 21
          -3
          Quote: Clever man
          Forgotten at the end of the triple uryayaya! Uryayaya

          Yes, I didn’t forget .. And you whiners, what did you forget? Whine and blame everything. This is your essence here .. Then scatter around Europe and supposedly you misunderstood us, etc.

          Everything is repeated in the history of Russia!
    2. Bulgarian_5
      Bulgarian_5 2 October 2022 10: 37
      +7
      I ask that when you give links to videos, upload them to such hosting so that they can be seen from other countries.
      They blocked everything, I can't watch....
      1. poquello
        poquello 2 October 2022 11: 12
        +6
        Quote: Bulgarian_5
        I ask that when you give links to videos, upload them to such hosting so that they can be seen from other countries.
        They blocked everything, I can't watch....

        and this site is crooked, the country has nothing to do with it, maybe you need to change the browser - if you really want to
        1. gansales
          gansales 2 October 2022 13: 55
          -1
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: Bulgarian_5
          I ask that when you give links to videos, upload them to such hosting so that they can be seen from other countries.
          They blocked everything, I can't watch....

          and this site is crooked, the country has nothing to do with it, maybe you need to change the browser - if you really want to

          There are problems with downloads. You are looking for a window for a very long time. Everyone is blocking. But xlhlovskoe is always welcome hehe
          Well, that's ok with the current situation.
          The West squealed, Russia sent!
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 2 October 2022 14: 33
            0
            Let's get on topic if you have something to say.
            1. gansales
              gansales 2 October 2022 15: 25
              -7
              Quote: Botanologist
              Let's get on topic if you have something to say.

              I've been speaking here for a long time from the bottom of my heart .. And what do you want to show me here? Do you follow the queue? Or are you doing it like that? Who are you here in general and whose will you be ..
              Oh yes, the bar expert didn’t notice the star for more than 10 years, he slept here and waited to ask me this question?
              Okay let's look at you BATANOVED hehe
              1. sofkar
                sofkar 2 October 2022 17: 13
                0
                Quote from gansales
                I've been speaking from my heart for a long time.

                Quote from gansales
                inadvertently pass?

                "Yes, it's from the heart. Wonderful. Worthy of admiration ... But, if, of course, in addition to iron objects, you can also use porcelain, then simply - there are no words!" (With)
                1. gansales
                  gansales 2 October 2022 17: 28
                  -3
                  Dimon whose will you be? There's some stupid cardboard joke here hehe
              2. Botanologist
                Botanologist 2 October 2022 18: 24
                +1
                Quote from gansales
                What do you want to show me here?

                You're not even [email protected], so that I show you. Do not flatter yourself.
      2. sifgame
        sifgame 2 October 2022 14: 39
        +2
        How do we know what your rulers have blocked and blocked there, learn how to use VPN and PROXY
      3. alexmach
        alexmach 2 October 2022 18: 06
        0
        the same video on telegram
        https://t.me/xronikabpla/2221
      4. patxi46
        patxi46 2 October 2022 18: 10
        0
        https://voenhronika.ru/ TOR Browser
    3. Cowbra
      Cowbra 2 October 2022 10: 40
      +33
      To strike at the accumulation of equipment, MLRS are needed! According to the accumulation of armored vehicles - Tornadoes, there is a rocket with homing subunits there.
      And Krasnopol and Gerani are needed for single purposes.
      1. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo 2 October 2022 10: 49
        +7
        yesterday in a day loss of APU 700 soldiers
        ▪️ The Russian Armed Forces destroyed more than 200 Ukrainian soldiers in the Krasnolimansky direction in a day
        ▪️ Russian troops destroyed more than 270 Ukrainian servicemen and five tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction
        ▪️ More than 50 militants were eliminated by a missile attack on the deployment point of the Armed Forces brigade in the Kupyansk region
        ▪️ The Russian Aerospace Forces with a high-precision strike in the Zaporozhye region destroyed up to 60 military APU and 10 units of military equipment, including two HIMARS systems
        ▪️ The Armed Forces of Ukraine lost more than 100 soldiers killed and wounded in the Novopol region in the DPR as a result of fire damage from the Russian Armed Forces
        1. Virus-free crown
          Virus-free crown 2 October 2022 10: 57
          +1
          And what are our losses for yesterday?
          Or, as always, "we break, the Swedes bend"?
          1. gansales
            gansales 2 October 2022 14: 32
            -1
            Quote: Crown without virus
            And what are our losses for yesterday?
            Or, as always, "we break, the Swedes bend"?

            A couple of hundred blochers broke into Georgia .. In general, there are a lot of 500s wassat They all run, leaving, on scooters and just running .. The Kazakhs are tired of catching them hehe
            Here is 100500 for you laughing
        2. NAF-NAF
          NAF-NAF 2 October 2022 11: 15
          -4
          From the other side, is this confirmed by the loss of 700 per day, or did Konashenkov destroy so many?
        3. Alexander Minkin
          Alexander Minkin 2 October 2022 11: 45
          +2
          I forgot to put my signature ... Konashenkov
        4. Anton Yu
          Anton Yu 2 October 2022 13: 14
          -5
          You forgot to mention 100 destroyed buses in Dnepropetrovsk.
      2. Pulkovo1942
        Pulkovo1942 2 October 2022 10: 57
        -6
        To strike at the accumulation of equipment, MLRS are needed!

        Have you seen the work of the MLRS on the video? That's what I didn't see.
        1. poquello
          poquello 2 October 2022 11: 03
          +5
          Quote: Pulkovo1942
          To strike at the accumulation of equipment, MLRS are needed!

          Have you seen the work of the MLRS on the video? That's what I didn't see.

          go to the cinema
      3. Sergey79
        Sergey79 2 October 2022 11: 02
        -5
        According to the accumulation of fixed equipment - yes. On the moving - useless.
      4. Konnick
        Konnick 2 October 2022 12: 33
        -4
        To strike at the accumulation of equipment, MLRS are needed! According to the accumulation of armored vehicles - Tornadoes

        Tanks need direct hits, not high-explosive shock waves. These MLRS against infantry and artillery crews, as well as against all stationary targets.
        This tank column was supposed to be destroyed by attack aircraft, for this they made the Ka-52 and Mi-28, but they mastered the latest tactics, firing NARs from "cabring", they have no time for that, they suddenly shoot down .... they are like MLRS beating by area.
      5. Charik
        Charik 2 October 2022 15: 02
        0
        I have never heard about the use of missiles or bombs with self-aiming ammunition in the NMD, but they write there is also a video of how bombs are assembled, but there is no use?
    4. IvanR
      IvanR 2 October 2022 10: 42
      +5
      What kind of geraniums for moving targets? They are only used for static
    5. Tusv
      Tusv 2 October 2022 10: 49
      +1
      Pulkovo1942A Krasnopol see already over

      And Peonies are imprisoned for tactical nuclear weapons, but here they use land mines for their intended purpose
    6. trenkkvaz
      trenkkvaz 2 October 2022 10: 50
      0
      Look in more detail. On the contrary, it is surprising that the shells hit so accurately. It is impossible to achieve such accuracy with ordinary shells. There, the spread is up to 100 m.
      Here, just on the go, Krasnopol is used. But it also does not have 100% accuracy. Therefore, there are misses.
      1. stankow
        stankow 2 October 2022 11: 42
        -1
        Yes, the WTO was beaten. But on the retracting columns it is necessary to put a barrage fire. And then after the first breaks, everyone drank and the GOS no longer works.
        1. Sergey79
          Sergey79 2 October 2022 15: 54
          +1
          Concentrated fire should be placed on the columns. Barrage fire - on attacking units .... Read smart books .... Artillery is a type of combat support troops. Unfortunately, this has been forgotten...
          1. stankow
            stankow 2 October 2022 17: 43
            +2
            Barrage fire is placed on the columns. Well, that's what it says in the instructions. And BT clusters are fired upon as a flat target. Concentrated - for single targets, such as NP. Etc. I not only read my books at one time, but even began to score smile
            1. ada
              ada 2 October 2022 23: 41
              +1
              Welcome good We already discussed this somehow - Shooting at the column. In fact, yes, stop advancing at the calculated line with a barrage and proceed to defeat an immovable group, and there, depending on the size of the target, assigned units, systems and caliber, fuses for tanks in half - high-explosive / fragmentation, two or three raids. Somewhere there was a video, the enemy fired to kill at our small mixed column of tanks / infantry fighting vehicles, and traces are clearly visible there - very similar to MLRS in an overlay, a couple of packages were placed across the road dividing the column, but most likely they were just too late to hit the head of the column to block movement. It’s a pity for ours, the mortar worked to defeat the campaign, they stalled, but it was necessary to increase the speed to the limit and try to get out of the artillery attack.
              1. stankow
                stankow 3 October 2022 01: 31
                +1
                Wow, exactly! And you can also learn from the enemy! Moreover, the same weapons and tactics!
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 2 October 2022 18: 09
          0
          IMHO the first defeats were ATGMs. Judging by both accuracy and power having arrived. In addition, artillery hit the area.
      2. Sergey79
        Sergey79 2 October 2022 12: 39
        +3
        Do you know the principles of using Krasnopole? If not, then there is nothing to write... I know. Scattering up to 100 meters relative to what? I will answer. Regarding the center of dispersion of shells (TsRS) - yes. But not for the purpose. There are errors in the preparation of shooting on the target. And even the most accurate way to determine the settings for shooting gives deviations at medium ranges up to 400 meters. In this case, direct hits are pure chance. I'm talking about the effectiveness of the fire mission and the task of firing at the column (target). You need to attract at least a division with a consumption of 10 (8) shells per gun
    7. Sergey79
      Sergey79 2 October 2022 10: 59
      +10
      I agree. I did not see the work of artillery. But "Krasnopol" is not needed when performing this fire mission. We need concentrated division fire at the meeting point with a consumption of 10 shells per gun. And for armored, two divisions are better. Well, they weren't even scared. I'm not even talking about delay.
      1. Serg4545
        Serg4545 2 October 2022 11: 44
        +3
        Quote: Sergey79
        I agree. I did not see the work of artillery. But "Krasnopol" is not needed when performing this fire mission. We need concentrated division fire at the meeting point with a consumption of 10 shells per gun. And for armored, two divisions are better. Well, they weren't even scared. I'm not even talking about delay.


        And I saw.
        Watch the first video from 5:40 to 6:30.
        No more than 20 shells were fired at this column of armored vehicles for the entire time of shooting. And at the same time achieved several direct hits!
        For unguided projectiles, this is incredible accuracy!!
        Perhaps there were more hits, we just didn’t see them, because the camera was surveying other areas at that time.
        1. Sergey79
          Sergey79 2 October 2022 13: 25
          -1
          This is not the work of artillery and not the performance of a fire mission. Just an accident. There is such a thing as the task of shooting. In this case, it has not been implemented.
        2. stankow
          stankow 2 October 2022 17: 55
          +2
          Serg4545 I support. Definitely worked with the WTO. UAV illumination. The first two shells were sighting, the WTO is also sighting, the range of correction is not unlimited. When fired, the shooting slowed down until it dissipated. They chose contrasting targets, on arable land, not against the background of greenery. The tanks knew this, they were moving either behind or in front of the forest belts. There and trawl paved the road. There was no direct hit, but there were fairly close gaps. Three machines withdrew from the battle. And the battle was just flaring up, the video does not show further ... Very good!
    8. Bulgarian_5
      Bulgarian_5 2 October 2022 11: 35
      +1
      If you can not hold back the line of defense, then do max. loss to the enemy.
    9. Zoer
      Zoer 2 October 2022 11: 37
      0
      Quote: Pulkovo1942
      And Krasnopol has already run out, they are laying mines with underflight flights.

      We also have iskanders, daggers, calibers, self-aiming mines and cluster bombs with self-aiming submunitions. But where is all this in real databases?
    10. chetvertak
      chetvertak 2 October 2022 12: 40
      -3
      A shot from a tank, our warehouse was blown up, two settlements were built
      What does it mean for 5 years it has practically not produced armored vehicles! we don’t have practically AWACS, but NATO has dozens of them, and they weigh every day, one standing artillery can’t do anything, because the tanks are moving, not standing still
    11. smart ass
      smart ass 2 October 2022 12: 50
      -1
      I agree and the picture quality is terrible.
      1. Sergey79
        Sergey79 2 October 2022 13: 28
        +1
        So where are the "tomatoes in the ass" from? LOMO was destroyed in the 90s, the Kazan plant is "breathing incense" .... Only a couple of years ago they began to restore it. The picture is most likely from "Orlan 10"
    12. Govorun
      Govorun 2 October 2022 13: 00
      +4
      So I personally don’t understand why, due to the accumulation of armored vehicles of such a density, they cannot use a homing cluster charge.
      Bomb cassette with self-aiming submunitions RBC-500 SPBE-D is a bomb cassette with self-aiming anti-tank submunitions equipped with a dual-spectrum infrared target coordinator. Designed to destroy all modern tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and other armored vehicles with a positive thermal contrast relative to the underlying surface under the influence of natural and artificial interference. Can hit up to six tanks. Provides combat use at altitudes from 600 to 5000 m at aircraft flight speeds of 500-1900 km/h both in level flight and during dives and nose-ups to angles of 20-30°.

      The SPBE-D striking element is a further development of the SPBE ammunition, also used in the cluster warhead of the Smerch MLRS rocket system and the RBC-500 SPBE cluster bomb.
      1. Sergey79
        Sergey79 2 October 2022 14: 38
        +1
        To use shells (bombs) with SPBE, you must first stop the column ...
        1. Sergey79
          Sergey79 2 October 2022 15: 20
          +2
          Who, in this case, is minus, does not understand the shooting and fire control of artillery "from the word at all" ...
      2. ada
        ada 2 October 2022 23: 53
        0
        We take care of Abrash and Lep. You will need more, but you need to practice.
    13. Berkut752
      Berkut752 2 October 2022 23: 05
      0
      No, we don’t need Krasnopoli here, thermobaric ones ..............
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  2. ovod84
    ovod84 2 October 2022 10: 22
    0
    at least one good news after leaving the estuary
  3. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 2 October 2022 10: 24
    +9
    If the Ministry of Defense is silent, then the defense has been broken through. With such forces, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will naturally break through. Why don’t we open the concentration? 150 pieces of armor cannot be hidden so easily.
    1. Vitaly161
      Vitaly161 2 October 2022 10: 28
      +3
      it was still yesterday, an attempt to attack Davydov Ford, the enemy was scattered and retreated, yesterday there was infa
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 2 October 2022 10: 39
        -1
        This is a message about a breakthrough along the Dnieper. Davydov Brod along Ingulets Direction to Bereslav and Novaya Kakhovka. If they break through, then the Kherson group of our troops will be surrounded.
        1. Vitaly161
          Vitaly161 2 October 2022 11: 00
          +2
          yesterday they wrote that the attack was repulsed, the enemy retreated with losses
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 2 October 2022 12: 03
            +1
            entrenched themselves in the Zolotaya Balka area, the Two Majors Telegram channel reported.

            By nightfall, the enemy launched an offensive using up to 150 armored vehicles, pushing our troops back to the second line of defense by 23:00 yesterday.


            The Russian armed forces suffered losses.

            Thus, in this sector of the front, the territory previously controlled by our advanced units is occupied by the enemy.
            1. chetvertak
              chetvertak 2 October 2022 12: 46
              -2
              Well, where are the birds? I gave the idea that it was necessary to create a battalion of birdmen. No matter how we f ... with
              Probably our generals decided to get by with guns alone! And they thought that this was enough for protection. They don’t know the German tactics of the Second World War. What stupid generals who don’t know the military coherence of various units, even during the Second World War
              1. Vitaly161
                Vitaly161 2 October 2022 14: 45
                0
                Well, that is, in your opinion, is it a panacea for everything? they are not detected and after the first shot they are not fired?
              2. Sergey79
                Sergey79 2 October 2022 17: 15
                0
                Your statements are "nonsense of a hysterical mare" ....
            2. dmi.pris
              dmi.pris 2 October 2022 13: 57
              0
              I will continue the message from Two Majors If the enemy continues the offensive, there is a real threat of withdrawal of our troops.

              To stabilize the situation on the front line, we need to:

              1. massively use heavy MLRS "Smerch";

              2. use aircraft with high-explosive bombs;

              3. the approach of our reinforcements;

              4. supply of ATGMs to replace those lost the day before, as well as AGS units of the RF Armed Forces holding defense in this direction.

              Military correspondents reported that this information is accurate and up-to-date as of 1-00 today.
            3. Vitaly161
              Vitaly161 2 October 2022 14: 45
              0
              MO reported that the breakthrough attempt was stopped
          2. vital.33
            vital.33 2 October 2022 13: 48
            -1
            And they also wrote that help had come to Krasny Lyman, and successfully wetted the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and now they got krants ... but you see how it is ... and before that there was help on the Izyum Front, but it didn’t reach ... they write a lot .. .
    2. gansales
      gansales 2 October 2022 10: 43
      -8
      Quote: dmi.pris
      If the Ministry of Defense is silent, then the defense has been broken through. With such forces, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will naturally break through. Why don’t we open the concentration? 150 pieces of armor cannot be hidden so easily.

      Well, something is seriously happening there .. But this is already OUR territory and the fact that we will defend it by all means, that's for sure!
      The junta has thrown all the reserves, this is her last mental impulse .. What is the soldier fed before the attack, it remains to be seen! In the meantime, they wet, grinding everything and everyone.
      Our guys are maneuvering and waiting for reserves! Soon ..
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 2 October 2022 10: 47
        +11
        Reserves .. A 42-year-old colleague was called up a week ago. Now in Maykop. My wife called, tomorrow they are sent to the front. What can you learn in a week?
        1. Pulkovo1942
          Pulkovo1942 2 October 2022 10: 59
          -1
          A 42-year-old colleague was called

          At first I thought - 42 years of birth. Then I realized laughing
        2. stankow
          stankow 2 October 2022 11: 45
          +1
          Why in a week? He served for two years and learned there.
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 2 October 2022 11: 57
            +2
            That's right. Only in twenty years that it has weathered, something has changed.
        3. Terenin
          Terenin 2 October 2022 12: 20
          0
          Quote: dmi.pris
          My wife called, tomorrow they are sent to the front.

          Have you spoken to him yourself? And, the wife did not say exactly where, what tasks, which unit ... Maybe to the rear services (remasters, bakery, canteen ...) I’ll cook food for a week.
          In addition there are:
          automobile troops,
          railway troops,
          road troops,
          pipeline troops,
          Home front troops...
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 2 October 2022 13: 50
            0
            The specialty is a shooter. He doesn’t know where he is sent.
        4. gansales
          gansales 2 October 2022 18: 10
          -4
          Quote: dmi.pris
          Reserves .. A 42-year-old colleague was called up a week ago. Now in Maykop. My wife called, tomorrow they are sent to the front. What can you learn in a week?

          In a week you can learn how to quickly open a stew
          But when they scatter them over the combat units .. There they learn everything very quickly from their comrades-in-arms Or they die! hi
          So everything is fine! They will scatter mobilization among combat units and will fight well
          Over there 500 e how they yell from abroad hehe
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 2 October 2022 10: 56
        -1
        Quote from gansales
        Soon ..

        Soon the tale is affected, but it is not done soon.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 2 October 2022 12: 27
          +4
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote from gansales
          Soon ..

          Soon the tale is affected, but it is not done soon.

          Fairy tale, okay ... If only not fantasy. winked
      3. chetvertak
        chetvertak 2 October 2022 12: 55
        0
        This is not the last mental breakthrough! This is the nanke fist of the Vovs and cuts the defense with wedges. We don’t even have pturov, we don’t have tanks, we don’t have infantry, What did they stand for 3 months? Generals of the General Staff EXCEPT THE RANKS, ORDERS DID NOT WANT ANYTHING MORE, ONLY TO STRIVE IN 5 YEARS OF PROMOTION ON THE SERVICE LADDER TO THE GENELAL RANK EVERYONE FORGOT WHAT THEY TAUGHT THEM IN THE MILITARY ACADEMY
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        2. gansales
          gansales 2 October 2022 18: 27
          -2
          Quote from: hetvertak
          This is not the last mental breakthrough! This is the nanke fist of the Vovs and cuts the defense with wedges. We don’t even have pturov, we don’t have tanks, we don’t have infantry, What did they stand for 3 months? Generals of the General Staff EXCEPT THE RANKS, ORDERS DID NOT WANT ANYTHING MORE, ONLY TO STRIVE IN 5 YEARS OF PROMOTION ON THE SERVICE LADDER TO THE GENELAL RANK EVERYONE FORGOT WHAT THEY TAUGHT THEM IN THE MILITARY ACADEMY

          Here are some plus liberals .. They broke through hehe!
          I plus them, they will quickly teach you to love the Motherland!
  4. Foundling
    Foundling 2 October 2022 10: 32
    +12
    Krasny Liman testifies to the depletion of our grouping in Ukraine. We must already take off our rose-colored glasses and, based on the results of many months, admit that not only the shock, but also the defensive forces of the grouping have been exhausted. It would be nice to understand this in March, but yes, it makes sense to discuss it. The call of 300 thousand with the technical support and training that is now capable of changing the situation at the front? Here is the question. And immediately the second question; "if not, what needs to be done for the Victory? Is the government ready to sacrifice not only citizens, but also its political ambitions, its well-being, including financial ones, its life, finally, TOGETHER with the people, for the sake of the declared goals. Answer to the last question will determine the outcome of this war.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 2 October 2022 10: 52
      +4
      They asked a good question about the authorities. But it’s all empty. And the fact that the group was depleted was clear back in May. That’s when it was necessary to mobilize, if not earlier. At least a month to train, and not now in a week. But they will put unprepared men .The result will be uncertain. Even with this number, there is a twofold superiority of the APU in hp, and in the breakthrough areas there is superiority in artillery and armor
      1. Foundling
        Foundling 2 October 2022 11: 01
        +1
        Now I'm afraid there is already a question about the universal. The partial time was in the first few months. I am not writing because I dream about it myself. Personally, I am anti-adventure. But some things are pretty obvious whether it's nice or not
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 2 October 2022 11: 22
          +4
          And it’s too late to be afraid. Since these territories are now ours, they must be defended. We are now silent about Odessa and Nikolaev. But this is all ours. And EVERYTHING will be needed here.
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 2 October 2022 10: 54
      +1
      Quote: Foundling
      for the sake of the declared goals not only by citizens, but also by their political ambitions, their well-being, including financial

      Thanks for the reminder. What kind of Kyiv ruble is not swept off the face of the earth
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 2 October 2022 10: 56
        +2
        Probably because the Moscow ruble blossoms and smells
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 2 October 2022 11: 00
          0
          Quote: dmi.pris
          Probably because the Moscow ruble blossoms and smells

          There was a topic here. Our beat, including the oligarchs. Not well. These are our oligarchs, not theirs.
    3. Dead duck
      Dead duck 2 October 2022 11: 01
      +3
      Krasny Liman testifies to the depletion of our grouping in Ukraine.

      and when was there "saturation"? Initially, the forces were at a minimum with the expectation of a small victorious war.
      There is no banal rotation.
    4. levfuks
      levfuks 2 October 2022 13: 13
      -1
      Quote: Foundling
      after many months to recognize

      Here, according to the results of many years, no one wants to admit anything. No one is a specific character.
      Quote: Foundling
      Is the government ready to sacrifice

      No, not ready - clear as daylight.
      Quote: Foundling
      finally TOGETHER with the people to achieve the goal.

      Sorry, but this is from some kind of parallel reality.
  5. Saboteur_Navy
    Saboteur_Navy 2 October 2022 10: 35
    +9
    From 1 video I see that there are a lot of blows past, so if a regiment of helicopters flew in, they would all be burned to one
    1. Bulgarian_5
      Bulgarian_5 2 October 2022 10: 40
      +13
      He wrote exactly, but not only 2 helicopters, but at least 8 which will circle at the same time.

      2 work 4ri hides and look for a flash from MANPADS and destroys on the spot.

      And by the way, the guards should work together with the troops ...
      1. chetvertak
        chetvertak 2 October 2022 13: 11
        -2
        A battalion of birders had to be created! I wrote: what will we fight with? There are 1200-2000 suitable tanks for the country, 600-1000 infantry fighting vehicles.
        NATO members saw everything in what quantities we have and are produced under the contract. Everything is posted on the Internet! And therefore, the NATO members offered us a war with ground forces without the use of nuclear weapons.
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          1. chetvertak
            chetvertak 2 October 2022 16: 05
            0
            Offer your ideas! what you answered me is a standard copy of familiar phrases
        2. Charik
          Charik 2 October 2022 15: 13
          0
          NATO members will easily saturate the Armed Forces and teach on the Internet what and how to do. Yes, they even take a full part in hostilities
    2. stels_07
      stels_07 2 October 2022 10: 47
      +10
      Question for connoisseurs, that's where bl .. this regiment of alligators, hunters and the rest is unparalleled ???
      1. Dead duck
        Dead duck 2 October 2022 11: 06
        +6
        Time is the key word. They would have arrived under a cap analysis.
        In such cases, only "free hunting" sometimes works.
        Do you think they did not have MANPADS? they even had something to mine.
        1. stels_07
          stels_07 2 October 2022 11: 30
          -2
          Well, you give a pancake. Either you are joking, or one of the two ..
        2. stankow
          stankow 2 October 2022 11: 48
          +2
          Why "even"? The statewide trawl is assigned to a tank battalion.
        3. Hanurik
          Hanurik 2 October 2022 12: 03
          +1
          The ATGM flies 10 km. What pzrk will get?
      2. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 2 October 2022 11: 14
        -2
        Quote: stels_07
        Question for connoisseurs, that's where bl .. this regiment of alligators, hunters and the rest is unparalleled ???

        This... in one place, probably feel
        For my own sake, for the sake of a joke, I looked at the official losses of Ukrainian aircraft according to the Russian Ministry of Defense ... So, in mid-March, when Mr. Storyteller announced that the air defense and aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were tightly defeated, then EVERYTHING was shot down !!! 111 enemy planes... And yesterday already 310 were shot down... wassat My debit and credit do not converge - how is it possible to destroy at least 90 percent of the aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in mid-March, and then suddenly another 200 within six months !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! destroy?????
        1. chetvertak
          chetvertak 2 October 2022 16: 25
          0
          The pilots are alive, and Eastern Europe has enough Soviet fighters there! When we knock these down, then Ukrainian pilots will fly F-16s. This is where we get sick. And if they are put on the F-35, that everyone has been laughing at this plane in the comments for years, then it will be really bad for us, and we won’t dream of Kyiv, as now.! It’s good that they started stamping new samples of shells, tori ,, beeches, except for the shell-cm
      3. stankow
        stankow 2 October 2022 17: 26
        +1
        Helicopter regiment under the command of the army level of the Armed Forces. And in Liman, a maximum regiment of the Armed Forces is defending, and the militia. Where do they get turntables!?
  6. Foundling
    Foundling 2 October 2022 10: 40
    -3
    And no one wants to comment on the result of the shooting on the video?
    1. Dead duck
      Dead duck 2 October 2022 11: 10
      +4
      What is not clear there?
      The battery lasted the maximum. Shmalnuli several "Krasnopoles".
      As a rule, they work in such videos in a similar way, there is no heavy fire.
      As well as there is no normal coordination and consistency between the branches of the armed forces.
      And even more so, there is no binding and artillery and aviation assigned to the pawns, which would provide support on demand as soon as possible.
      Reforms in all their glory.
      1. Foundling
        Foundling 2 October 2022 12: 50
        -6
        Is this the work of Krasnopol? High-precision and at the price of a cast-iron bridge?
        1. Dead duck
          Dead duck 2 October 2022 13: 00
          +1
          We read carefully and look the same way.
          Or the same as with the book in the parable?
          1. Foundling
            Foundling 2 October 2022 13: 31
            -3
            I did read it. You wrote that "Some Krasnopoles were scammed." I was upset that the accuracy of these shells turned out to be current as in the video. What do you not understand about my comment?
            1. Dead duck
              Dead duck 2 October 2022 14: 16
              +1
              "Several" - a small, small amount.
              But not all.
              It is not clear to you along the way both the meaning of the word and the video and what is happening.
              1. Foundling
                Foundling 2 October 2022 17: 12
                -3
                Well. There, "a few" flew in very inaccurately. Watch the video again. Then let's fantasize about the meaning of words
            2. alexmach
              alexmach 2 October 2022 18: 19
              +1
              I was upset that the accuracy of these shells turned out to be as current as in the video

              There are point hits. I can’t presume to say the truth what, as for me, ATGMs, is the work of artillery across the area.
              1. Foundling
                Foundling 2 October 2022 19: 08
                -3
                Thank you! I understand. Not enough density of fire
      2. chetvertak
        chetvertak 2 October 2022 13: 16
        -2
        Now you need to write “Krasnopol”! And before that, many wrote “expensive” Now, many need to understand that you don’t need to spend money for defense, even if it’s expensive! In the process of mass production, products become cheaper. We have been saving everything for 10 years and now we have saved up! And how everything was calculated by MI-6 and NATO.
        1. Charik
          Charik 2 October 2022 15: 19
          +1
          wait, but VVP spoke to the camera, I remember exactly: We have everything calculated, we’ll manage it.
          1. chetvertak
            chetvertak 2 October 2022 15: 55
            0
            Was it hard for you to check what he was saying? The wiki has all the data on how much was produced under the contract and where they are located. Also on BMP armored personnel carriers. We type the T-72 or similar and go to the wiki. Also with the BMP! We write the model and count in pieces. And it turns out there is nothing to fight with!
            The coalition-sv 152 ksh was ready already in 2015-18 Article The best sau in the world is undergoing state tests in 2017.
            And where is it? They didn’t even want to put the gun on KAMAZ into the series
            5 years of testing? This is called "sabotage" "sabotage" "subversive activity"
            All these developments of the times of the USSR
            1. stankow
              stankow 2 October 2022 17: 30
              0
              Cannon on Kamaz? That's right, they didn't buy MO! Combines all the worst of towed and self-propelled artillery.
              1. chetvertak
                chetvertak 2 October 2022 18: 47
                -1
                Germany - modernized everything on the sau. They didn’t have guns left. So they wrote. France-TRF1 retired by the French Army and decommissioned Remains-towed by Caesar
                1. stankow
                  stankow 2 October 2022 21: 16
                  +1
                  Germany stopped 3 gas stations, new. Modernized, so to speak, its energy laughing And you say - self-propelled guns. Well, let them fight, let's see how it goes.
                  1. chetvertak
                    chetvertak 2 October 2022 21: 43
                    -1
                    So there is something else to use! They will bring it up to 16 °. They will put on blouses, different thermal underwear, I was surprised that you are so worried about the Europeans in the electric power industry? How can we help? Nothing
                    1. stankow
                      stankow 3 October 2022 01: 33
                      0
                      I don't worry about them. I give as an example how stupid their "modernizations" are!
    2. chetvertak
      chetvertak 2 October 2022 16: 30
      0
      Did you shoot without a UAV? And what result do you want if the shooting is carried out in a state of emergency, panic
      1. stankow
        stankow 2 October 2022 17: 31
        +1
        How without a UAV? Who filmed the video? Who highlighted the targets?
  7. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 2 October 2022 10: 41
    +5
    Let's just say - they didn't let us develop the offensive and it's already good. Although the quality of the strikes is accuracy, the rate of fire leaves much to be desired. It would be interesting for me to see what would happen to these tank and infantry battalions if long-range Israeli Spikes with illumination from UAVs worked on them? I think that "the old woman would not have suffered for a long time ..."
  8. Voronezh
    Voronezh 2 October 2022 10: 42
    -3
    ukrotanki go where they want and how they want ...
    1. kill the fascist
      kill the fascist 2 October 2022 10: 52
      -2
      yeah, already on the way to Voronezh, they said so at the censor, hove boy.
  9. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 2 October 2022 10: 43
    +22
    In broad daylight, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are calmly moving in columns of dozens of pieces of equipment and it seems that they are not afraid of anything, it’s good that this column was discovered with the help of UAVs and attacked with artillery.

    But judging by their tactics, this does not happen so often.

    I wonder why not use the same Ka-52 and Mi-28 to quickly and efficiently hit armored vehicles with ATGMs? Where are cluster munitions for Tornadoes with self-aiming submunitions to destroy armored vehicles?

    Why drive a helicopter to hit from a roll-up when there is Grad? Portray active work? There is not much sense from this, besides, we are losing both helicopters and people. For what? In order for the VKS command to report that they hit hundreds of Kraken fighters and a bunch of equipment?

    But when it would be effective to hit with helicopters, for some reason they are not.

    The effectiveness of our artillery fire leaves much to be desired.

    In general, it doesn’t fit in my head, how, with the advantage in aviation and artillery of the Russian army, the Armed Forces of Ukraine manage to advance, and we are retreating ?!
    1. Voronezh
      Voronezh 2 October 2022 10: 50
      +6
      At the expense of the advantage, doubts are already beginning to creep in. Yes, it was, but the impression that this advantage is beginning to reset. The NATO Chiefs of Staff Committee begins to work in full force due to complete impunity and systematically erases the "red lines" from the maps
      1. chetvertak
        chetvertak 2 October 2022 16: 34
        0
        Advantageously! So, the pilots were afraid because of their professionalism. But the professionalism not inflated among young pilots? They can only bomb from a low altitude! And there they are waiting for MANPADS.
        1. Voronezh
          Voronezh 2 October 2022 23: 20
          0
          They said stupid. Working at low altitudes is just an indicator of good professionalism. And air defense works at all heights
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 2 October 2022 10: 54
      -1
      According to reports from the field, we no longer have superiority in artillery. And in terms of accuracy of strikes, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are clearly superior to our strikes
      1. IvanR
        IvanR 2 October 2022 11: 03
        -3
        In May, the advantage was 10-15 times in terms of art! Everyone was talking about this, where did it evaporate in a few months?!?!
        1. Sergey028
          Sergey028 2 October 2022 11: 22
          -3
          There, where the weapons of the dill are supplied.
        2. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 2 October 2022 11: 33
          +4
          This is according to the whining of Khokhlakov for that period. And most likely in order to get artu from the West. In reality, there most likely was no such advantage
      2. chetvertak
        chetvertak 2 October 2022 16: 49
        0
        It is clear that they receive all the data from avaks and satellites! NATO has dozens of them, and there are hundreds of satellites in space, if not all of them. We have almost no satellites, but we are preparing for eccentric wars. We don’t have avaks either. Premier" to the troops of the Aerospace Forces will begin in 100 And the work is strictly on schedule. Then it was not about 2024, but about 2024, our authorities are the State Duma, Moscow Region, General Staff and, oddly enough, the GDP turned out to be not far away, but just a picture, in fact blew 2020 years for nothing,
      3. Voronezh
        Voronezh 2 October 2022 23: 26
        0
        They could hardly achieve an advantage in numbers even at the expense of the West. As a matter of fact, yes. All NATO intelligence agencies work for them, and most likely the artillery is already supplied in a complete set with normal guidance equipment, including satellite
    3. chetvertak
      chetvertak 2 October 2022 13: 20
      -2
      Because turntables are easy to shoot down! And everything is also ready to destroy turntables. Bombers are needed. So they laughed at Ze. He wrote that ZE says what NATO and Mi-6 say, but he knows everything is ready for them
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 2 October 2022 17: 06
        +1
        Bombers are even easier shot down by BUKOM or S-300.
  10. Vic Vic
    Vic Vic 2 October 2022 10: 48
    +6
    Perhaps for a specialist, these videos will say something completely different from what a non-specialist does, but I would like to understand the meaning of the enemy’s maneuver - the column moves across open areas for hundreds of meters, or maybe more along a very narrow green strip, then makes a 180-degree turn through the strip and moves reversed. Earlier on the movement insurmountable obstacles for a reversal?
    The fire of our artillery, judging by the video, 1-2 guns are working across the areas in the area where the column is located with unobvious effectiveness. In public access, as a rule, the most effective or spectacular shots are allowed. What did you want to show with this video?
    1. ada
      ada 3 October 2022 00: 11
      0
      Yes, usually overgrown ravines, movement strictly along a reconnoitered route for mines. They wrote about the artillery impact above and competently, the battery 152 was involved in the gun, we cannot evaluate the result - there is no data, but the shooting itself is normal.
  11. Warrior MorePhoto
    Warrior MorePhoto 2 October 2022 10: 59
    +2
    Everything is past, and Konashenkov will report that a cluster of 50 armored vehicles has been destroyed ... a disgrace.
    Back in 2018, a Corsair UAV was driven across Red Square. Where? Where is everything modern? Where's the money? Where did you spend? Where are the network-centric troops they talked about?
    The second army of the world - this already sounds mocking, not proud!

    Ps
    We cannot carry out the mobilization in a clear, understandable and coordinated way, no one interferes, but still there is neither organization nor proper provision.
    1. levfuks
      levfuks 2 October 2022 13: 26
      +1
      Quote: Warrior StillTot
      Where? Where is everything modern? Where's the money?

      When some people called some "highly artistic" works "cartoons", the patriots threw pissing rags at them.
      All questions to the main storyteller.
      Where's the money? Where necessary.
    2. chetvertak
      chetvertak 2 October 2022 22: 17
      -1
      We have an element base in the best case of 2000. Mobilization is essentially a natural disaster, like traffic jams. Maybe it was worth bringing agendas in alphabetical order.
  12. Loh
    Loh 2 October 2022 10: 59
    +5
    And where are the helicopters with ATGMs, or do they only work from a pitch-up in the area, and ATGMs only for stationary targets?
  13. Arbeiternegast
    Arbeiternegast 2 October 2022 11: 01
    0
    Judging by the video - accuracy as in the days of the REV, flight, undershoot, dispersion. And the rate of fire is the same. Where are our bombers?
    1. Kapral Alphych
      Kapral Alphych 2 October 2022 11: 06
      +1
      Rather, 2 guns hit from extreme distances, which once again indicates that our troops are spread out along the front in a thin, fragile line. And in order to somehow respond to the moves of the enemy, you have to constantly maneuver forces and means. Unlike the Kharkiv direction, the Kherson command somehow succeeds.
  14. Warrior MorePhoto
    Warrior MorePhoto 2 October 2022 11: 02
    0
    Quote: Foundling
    And no one wants to comment on the result of the shooting on the video?


    What to comment? Suppression level 50s-80s
  15. vovochkarzhevsky
    vovochkarzhevsky 2 October 2022 11: 07
    +15
    In fact, an ideal target for combat helicopters. A link with trained crews and BC No. 1 will roll out such a column from its territory and without entering the zone of destruction of military air defense.
    The only question is - where are these combat helicopters?
    1. Maxim G
      Maxim G 2 October 2022 12: 28
      +1
      You yourself wrote - there are not enough combat helicopters.
      I assume that there is not enough aviation at all.
      1. vovochkarzhevsky
        vovochkarzhevsky 2 October 2022 12: 58
        +1
        It seems that ATGMs are also missing. In many videos, only 2-4 ATGMs are taken to take off.
        1. Maxim G
          Maxim G 2 October 2022 13: 10
          -1
          Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
          It seems that ATGMs are also missing. In many videos, only 2-4 ATGMs are taken to take off.



          We have not yet chipped into ATGMs ...
          1. vovochkarzhevsky
            vovochkarzhevsky 2 October 2022 13: 30
            0
            Here in St. Petersburg, the Baku Bai is already offering to chip in.

            1. Maxim G
              Maxim G 2 October 2022 13: 33
              +2
              First, I donate to the militias and civilians of Donbass.

              But alas, my pocket is not rubber ... what
            2. Charik
              Charik 2 October 2022 15: 30
              +2
              and this is because the people do not have control over folk funds - why some cockroach decides with one of his signatures what to do with the people's loot - which is allocated by the state (people) to the budgets of city-regions, the wrong monetary policy - hence those who have access to money, the financial system must fundamentally change so that money works where it needs to
        2. stankow
          stankow 2 October 2022 13: 31
          +1
          This action is played out approximately 5-6 km from the front line. Ptursam is still too early to work. Far away, but not visible. First, he works with the WTO.
          1. Maxim G
            Maxim G 2 October 2022 14: 23
            -1
            Quote: stankow
            This action is played out approximately 5-6 km from the front line. Ptursam is still too early to work. Far away, but not visible. First, he works with the WTO.


            And from what distance is not early?
            1. stankow
              stankow 2 October 2022 15: 46
              0
              Pturcy can be launched ideally at 5 km. But certainly not before the tanks came into view. And here only a drone sees them, still far away, but in a lowland.
              1. Maxim G
                Maxim G 2 October 2022 15: 49
                -1
                And what prevents helicopters from flying up to the launch distance?
          2. vovochkarzhevsky
            vovochkarzhevsky 2 October 2022 15: 22
            +1
            Range "Attack" 6 km.
            1. stankow
              stankow 2 October 2022 15: 48
              0
              And there is no her. But some Cornet is sure to run into. A little bit farther.
            2. ada
              ada 3 October 2022 00: 19
              0
              Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
              Range "Attack" 6 km.

              From the air.
    2. ada
      ada 3 October 2022 00: 16
      0
      Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
      The only question is - where are these combat helicopters?

      Obviously, the air defense systems were put forward to the maximum, I heard that something from the S-300 was destroyed.
      1. vovochkarzhevsky
        vovochkarzhevsky 3 October 2022 00: 48
        -1
        For a helicopter in WWI, this is not a threat. In the presence of a front line, there should be no loss of helicopters at all. With the competent organization of hostilities.
        1. ada
          ada 3 October 2022 01: 55
          0
          And these: "Iris IRIS-T is a short-range air-to-air missile equipped with a cooled infrared homing head." ? Can they threaten a helicopter at low altitudes? I'm not very good with air defense.
  16. Cowbra
    Cowbra 2 October 2022 11: 10
    +1
    One question - how did you sleep through the concentration of technology, and where is it now?
    "150 tanks are not a box of matches - where can you hide them", well, just like a phrase from a movie on purpose.
    SO WHERE ARE THEY?! And why aren't they burning yet?
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 2 October 2022 13: 06
      +1
      There are no 150 tanks in the video, there is a platoon of tanks and a bunch of jeeps.

      It is easy to hide all this - by dispersing it in the rear and disguising it, and at the right time to concentrate in the right place and launch an offensive.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 2 October 2022 13: 14
        0
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        there is a platoon of tanks

        This is only if there are as many tanks in a tank platoon as there are people in a regular platoon. Don't you think there are a little more than three of them? And disperse this whole horde ... Near the front line - there you will run into the fact that their reconnaissance without any artillery will cut pretty much overnight
        1. stankow
          stankow 2 October 2022 13: 28
          +1
          You can see 20 tanks. So they are approaching an incomplete battalion.
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 2 October 2022 19: 02
      0
      One question - how did you sleep through the concentration of technology, and where is it now?

      You mean overslept? This was also work on a concentrating / unfolding technique in order
  17. lets-true
    lets-true 2 October 2022 11: 20
    +11
    kapets drive through the fields in columns) And in our response, bang-bang and past. Crooked ancient art. This shows what a bottom we are. An Apache squadron would fly in from the Amers and shoot these targets with helfires like at a training ground.
    1. Sarboz
      Sarboz 2 October 2022 21: 52
      +1
      Quote from lets-true
      An Apache squadron would fly in from the amers and shoot these targets with helfires like at a training ground.

      Since the days of Vietnam and Korea, the Americans have not taken part in hostilities of such high intensity with a regular army with effective air defense. Apache defenses are weak for such missions.
  18. opuonmed
    opuonmed 2 October 2022 11: 27
    0
    the column passed nearby arrivals nearby and that's it! video about what I did not understand?
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 2 October 2022 13: 13
      +5
      In my opinion, there were hits, and several Hummers that went forward were blown up by mines.

      It seems that the first tank with minesweeps discovered a minefield, reported and decided to bypass this field through a different direction, at which point artillery began to process them.

      The accuracy of artillery depends on many factors, very dependent on how the gun or mortar is mounted.

      I noticed that the Ukrainians often cover the 120 mortar with sandbags, which fixes it strongly and does not allow it to move when firing, which allows you to more accurately adjust the fire, also with howitzers, see how the M777 is fixed and how our Hyacinth-B.

      The slightest shift when firing everything from a machine gun to a howitzer is a significant increase in dispersion.
  19. OlegM
    OlegM 2 October 2022 11: 27
    -1
    I saw the advancing armored vehicles. I did not see the work of artillery on it. It's .. pa guys. It's probably not all that good there either.
  20. Silver99
    Silver99 2 October 2022 11: 30
    -2
    Quote: Foundling
    Now I'm afraid there is already a question about the universal. The partial time was in the first few months. I am not writing because I dream about it myself. Personally, I am anti-adventure. But some things are pretty obvious whether it's nice or not

    Personally, I am also against escalation and panic, but the immediate alignment is not encouraging, 300 thousand against the millionth army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine loses in comparison and deep breakthroughs from the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation should not be expected, apparently it’s just about holding positions, all the more often there are discussions about the use of tactical nuclear weapons, and this is the last argument.
  21. Blooming Sally
    Blooming Sally 2 October 2022 11: 35
    -1
    only sprayed, it is impossible to destroy with such a number of shells. somehow I read a book of artillerymen, to suppress 120mm tank mines with 40 pieces to destroy 80)) well, I can’t vouch for the accuracy, but the numbers are about that. I think and arte + - too. It looks like it just needs to be stopped.
  22. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 2 October 2022 11: 55
    +2
    This is where Iranian drones, combat helicopters and Russian aircraft should intervene. Suicide drones should not be wasted on unnecessary attacks.
  23. Bogalex
    Bogalex 2 October 2022 12: 00
    +4
    Sad video indeed. It can be seen that, at best, a platoon is working on a target intended for at least a division. The drone that shoots all this, obviously, is not equipped with a target designator for VTB, the shooting is carried out with conventional OFS. And its density cannot do anything with the enemy in this case. You might as well not shoot...
  24. v1tz
    v1tz 2 October 2022 12: 10
    0
    High precision is needed here, this is obvious. Attack drones would work well here (were they bought from Iran? Or just Geraniums to suppress infrastructure) or helicopters, according to our remote impact tactics. Well time noticed, thanks to the landscape.
  25. RED_ICE
    RED_ICE 2 October 2022 12: 20
    -2
    From the video, everything becomes clear that we do not have precision-guided munitions
  26. 1984
    1984 2 October 2022 12: 26
    -2
    they used to say that we have problems with reconnaissance and target designation, well, we’ve reconnoitered the targets and even adjust the fire quite well, but we still can’t destroy them, there are no means of destruction in this area, and the enemy apparently knows about it, then where are they? I would like to ask, but in general, it’s not bad to use a tactical charge of 15 kilotons for such a cluster, and there are no civilians nearby and the target is fat ....
    1. stankow
      stankow 2 October 2022 13: 24
      0
      Here you are right. Just the target for tactical nuclear weapons. And yet - it is not necessary.
      1. ada
        ada 3 October 2022 00: 44
        0
        Yes, no, do not exaggerate, otherwise they will become proud laughing
    2. chetvertak
      chetvertak 2 October 2022 13: 26
      -1
      The enemy knows that we have nothing but a couple of rocket launchers and cannons! Therefore, it comes with such a quantity of equipment. It is not difficult to calculate how many misses on tanks will be during a frenzy. And the main thing for them is to destroy the ammunition depot. The guns themselves do not move, but the tank I find all the time
  27. hohohol
    hohohol 2 October 2022 12: 36
    +3
    And where is our aviation, there is no end to the work for it. Oh, yes, yes, yes, and suddenly they will shoot down.
  28. Emergency
    Emergency 2 October 2022 12: 39
    +2
    When will they start working on retreating people? Reports of horrendous enemy casualties and attacks on their bases are effective if backed up by concrete cases and a list of occupied settlements. So far, we see how Banderva with NATO, "who do not know how to fight" without toilet paper and Coca-Cola, squeezed ours out of Liman And they are pushing through our defenses. I understand that sitting on the defensive and knocking out manpower and equipment from shelters is not bad. But why are the units withdrawing? Gentlemen commanders are not able to organize either offensive or defense? One "heroic" deputy head was removed, the second, no less "heroically", fell under the hot "complement" from Kadyrov. These gentlemen squint from lack of intelligence? Or is this a cunning plan? Are there too many cunning plans? With such soldiers and officers, gentlemen generals should be ashamed to chew snot!
  29. Konnick
    Konnick 2 October 2022 12: 41
    +3
    Quote: Serg4545
    Watch the first video from 5:40 to 6:30.
    No more than 20 shells were fired at this column of armored vehicles for the entire time of shooting. And at the same time achieved several direct hits!
    For unguided projectiles, this is incredible accuracy!!
    Perhaps there were more hits, we just didn’t see them, because the camera was surveying other areas at that time.

    I didn't notice a single hit. Name the time on the video to watch, more specifically.
  30. Mapping
    Mapping 2 October 2022 12: 52
    +1
    How there are not enough bayraktars in the sky
  31. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 2 October 2022 12: 55
    +1
    And why spread this ananism? They shoot a couple of guns and everything is past.
  32. Capral_Ykt
    Capral_Ykt 2 October 2022 12: 59
    +5
    And where is aviation in general, there, after all, it was possible to process everyone in an open field with attack aircraft, helicopters !!????
  33. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 2 October 2022 13: 24
    +2
    If Kherson falls, the war is definitely lost and the Russian government may fall. From here, Russia can move towards fragmentation. The moment is very delicate.
  34. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 2 October 2022 13: 32
    0
    The Russian Aerospace Forces are in dire need of helicopters, and we need not only heavy attack helicopters like the Ka-52 and Mi-28/35, but also small ones like the American Cobra.

    Such a small helicopter is easier to camouflage close to the front, it needs less fuel, and with ATGMs it could burn enemy tanks just as well.

    As an option, this one -



    And ideally, something similar in size, but with a coaxial propeller system like the Ka-52.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 2 October 2022 19: 08
      0
      I beg you, why reinvent the wheel. We have as many as 2 models of attack helicopters, this is not counting the MI-35/24, and you offer one more in addition. Those that are to be produced in large numbers. Yes, modernize.
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 2 October 2022 23: 18
        0
        Yes, I suggest, a light attack helicopter.

        It will be cheaper to manufacture, cheaper and easier to maintain, but it will also effectively destroy enemy equipment and it will be possible to make a lot of such helicopters and this will allow them to be used more actively at the front.

        Western countries also have a large Apache attack helicopter, while they also use small helicopters.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 3 October 2022 10: 04
          0
          It will be cheaper to produce

          Why did it happen? What will be cheaper there? Electronics and weapons will not be cheaper, as if "bargaining is not appropriate" here .. But rather there is nowhere to bargain. Will you make engines cheaper? Or are there gears? I highly doubt there is a better short-term solution than to keep releasing and developing existing ones. And what will be cheaper? Hull and blades or what? And then taking into account development costs?

          Western countries also have a large Apache attack helicopter, while they also use small helicopters.

          They use small helicopters because the Marine Corps did not have enough money to re-equip Apache, and so they had plans to re-equip the KMP with Apache, and also because Cobras can be placed more on the deck in the hold.

          You don't need to think of anything special. The Ka-52s show themselves well - that's what they need to be produced. And to improve and unify, if possible, armored personnel carriers and weapons for all existing vehicles.
  35. 1984
    1984 2 October 2022 13: 37
    +1
    a good option would be to fire from hail with 9M28K shells with anti-tank mines, one shell contains three mines, one installation will scatter 120 mines if several installations worked, then the equipment would definitely have problems, but as usual, the shells most likely were not brought up or there were none at all in stock, but the top military leadership lives without denying itself anything ....
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 2 October 2022 19: 13
      0
      but as usual, the shells most likely weren’t delivered or they weren’t available at all

      You make such interesting suggestions. A bunch of other people offer self-aiming BP to Tornado (for a second) to cover them. Well, it is obvious that in this particular area there are no other means of destruction, except for those used.

      I believe that it would be much more rational and realistic to be able to work out aviation on them. It would be nice to have some kind of duty detachment of forces on this sector of the front, promptly ready to take off to stop the threat.
  36. Dikson
    Dikson 2 October 2022 14: 04
    0
    "Tube 15, sight 120! bam, bam! - and by! .. " The picture is not very impressive .. We drove, turned around, - left .. It doesn’t look like one crossing discussed just now .. But in the news feed they write about the successful defeat of the columns Armored vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.. Maybe they defeated them somewhere else?
  37. Vasya_2
    Vasya_2 2 October 2022 14: 04
    +1
    here
    https://topcor.ru/28423-rossijskaja-artillerija-nakryla-bronetankovuju-kolonnu-vsu-na-hersonskom-napravlenii.html
    watch the first video
    or shoots at his own after he was knocked out. or a lone tank meets the column. but still both hit
  38. kravch67k
    kravch67k 2 October 2022 14: 05
    +2
    As I understand it, in the code of the Moscow Region this column will be listed as destroyed?
  39. petrakimov
    petrakimov 2 October 2022 15: 01
    +3
    Indeed, it was previously believed that attack helicopters were created to fight tanks. And now I see that this is an ordinary MLRS, only airborne. Why are they only used to shoot ammunition? They should work on tanks. The whole column passed quietly. They wrote about the presence of missiles for MLRS with homing elements against tanks. Used even in Syria. And here what? Or is it just that Ukrainians are so brothers that it is a pity to beat them? would it be better for our soldiers to die under the tracks of these tanks than for us to offend at least one Slav brother? So you can fight until the people run out. We have.
    1. Oleg . B.
      Oleg . B. 2 October 2022 16: 31
      0
      It's just that everyone believed "cheers for the patriots" - "we have everything." But the facts show something completely different.
  40. Oleg . B.
    Oleg . B. 2 October 2022 16: 30
    0
    Such videos show the inconsistency of our artillery. From here we have what we have. Very sad.
  41. shm_kv
    shm_kv 2 October 2022 17: 34
    -1
    Kherson region.
    Northeast. Direction n.p. Shevchenkovka-Zolotaya Balka.
    The situation is critical
    Relevance at 17:00.
    Certainly.
    Two majors

    I personally no longer doubt the traitors. Every time the same scenario; the guys die heroically in defense, there are no reinforcements.
  42. Adagka
    Adagka 2 October 2022 17: 52
    -3
    Doesn't want to tell anything about the Kremennaya MO? Will we stop the Khkhlov there or will we already drape to Lugansk ???
    But there is also a reason for optimism, engineering equipment has finally been noticed on the front end near Kremena. Finally, in someone's head, not burdened with intelligence, but in trousers with stripes, a bright idea came to build fortified areas in the Khartek direction.
  43. Paradox163
    Paradox163 2 October 2022 18: 39
    0
    Of course, I’m not an expert, but the accuracy, accuracy and number of shots is simply depressing ... it’s clear that the equipment was hit either from anti-tank systems or from tank guns.
    it is hardly possible to inflict significant damage on the enemy in this way, if only to shoot at the fortified areas and trenches, and even then after they shoot ... now it is not surprising that we are unable to stop the offensive ...
  44. Serega1
    Serega1 2 October 2022 19: 10
    0
    Did you hit enemy vehicles at all?
  45. miracle3213
    miracle3213 2 October 2022 23: 17
    0
    In what instructions is it written to repel an attack by MLRS armored vehicles? That's bullshit. The same applies to howitzer artillery. Anti-tank systems or turntables should work on tanks. MLRS work on areas and on fixed targets. Damn, who taught our commanders?
    1. ada
      ada 3 October 2022 01: 01
      0
      There is still no attack there, a column of consolidated infantry units reinforced with tanks is advancing along a difficult route with minefields, and how much they cut to the deployment line is unknown. Completely in accordance with the MR&A guidelines, MLRS units are involved in firing at a moving target - a column. The guys above have described everything. Take a look.
  46. Saturn 22222
    Saturn 22222 3 October 2022 08: 41
    0
    The Russian General Staff has no plan And there is no person who could come up with a plan In the arsenal there were blows in the forehead to fortify areas and nuclear weapons
  47. Jrvin
    Jrvin 3 October 2022 09: 25
    0
    Quote: Pulkovo1942
    Videos like this just make me feel bad. The enemy is marching in columns - that's where Gerani and their ilk are needed. And Krasnopol has already run out, they are laying mines with underflight flights.

    Geranium cannot shoot like a redfield, geranium is an analogue of highmars, i.e. took off and flies along coordinates and not at moving targets. Geranium doesn't even have an operator.
  48. certero
    certero 3 October 2022 21: 03
    -1
    Just a scribe. Why are these columns not covered with rocket artillery with submunitions? Why are there no strikes from helicopters with high-precision weapons?
    Why why ...
    These are all rhetorical questions.
    There will be no answers.
    I only hope that we really have nuclear bombs, because otherwise the American army will march to Moscow and will be like in the book of Abrams in Khimki.
  49. certero
    certero 3 October 2022 21: 04
    -1
    Quote: chudo3213
    In what instructions is it written to repel an attack by MLRS armored vehicles?

    In those where submunitions with an impact core for rockets are used.
    Then, with the right cover, all this equipment would burn