Shoigu answered a number of questions on partial mobilization and on the postponement of the start of the autumn draft campaign

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Shoigu answered a number of questions on partial mobilization and on the postponement of the start of the autumn draft campaign

In some Russian regions, partial mobilization has already been completed, even the cancellation of previously issued subpoenas is taking place. In others, subpoenas are still sent out to those eligible for military service. It should be said that the event of an all-Russian scale does not pass without overlaps. At the same time, the military command of the RF Armed Forces, the leadership of Russia, and local authorities are trying to quickly take all measures to correct the shortcomings and streamline the draft process as much as possible.

Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, held on September 30, criticized the mistakes made during the partial mobilization and demanded that they be corrected urgently. The head of state instructed the Prosecutor General's Office to promptly respond to all complaints from citizens and process each such signal. The President instructed the draft commissions, which are headed by the heads of regions, to include employees of the prosecutor's office of the appropriate levels.



Today, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin and Moscow Region Governor Andrei Vorobyov jointly inspected the Patriot temporary accommodation center for citizens called up for partial mobilization. This point is clearly exemplary. It is a pity that not everywhere things are like in the "Patriot". The Minister of Defense spoke with the journalists accompanying the delegation and answered some questions regarding the mobilization.

Here are the main theses of Shoigu's answers to journalists' questions.

Women will not be called up within the framework of partial mobilization, "the plans for this were not and are not, including in the future."

An addition has been prepared to the Decree of the President regarding the deferment from the call of students of commercial universities with state accreditation:

On behalf of the President, such an addition to the Decree will be prepared and submitted today.

The planned demobilization of conscripts for the autumn draft will take place at the usual time. The postponement of the start of the draft to November 1 will not affect this in any way:

Everything is according to plan, the Decree does not apply to this. From October 1, the guys will start returning home.

In turn, the mayor of Moscow said that, on behalf of the defense department, the authorities are checking the lists of conscripts for compliance with the requirements of the Ministry of Defense and the Decree of the President of Russia. The head of the city said that the authorities provide a full transport service for the delivery of conscripts to military units. At the same time, assistance is provided to strengthen the material base and ensure living conditions in places of temporary deployment.

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  1. +20
    1 October 2022 17: 32
    Why are these three in the photo not at the front?
    1. +29
      1 October 2022 17: 42
      Because it's dirty, cold and shooting in addition ...
    2. -12
      1 October 2022 17: 47
      Quote: ISKANDER_61
      Why are these three in the photo not at the front?

      Sobyanin is 64 years old.
      Privates and sergeants are subject to conscription up to 35 years, junior officers - up to 50, senior officers - up to 55 years.

      As for Shoigu, do you really believe that the place of the Minister of Defense is at the front?
      1. +15
        1 October 2022 17: 53
        A 42-year-old colleague, a corporal, was called in our department. He was the youngest in the team ...
        1. -4
          1 October 2022 20: 12
          Quote: dmi.pris
          A 42-year-old colleague, a corporal, was called in our department. He was the youngest in the team ...

          Fine. We have pensioners jumping with a parachute, here is a reserve for the Airborne Forces.
          1. +6
            1 October 2022 21: 58
            We have pensioners jumping with a parachute, here is a reserve for the Airborne Forces.

            What is this, irony? At 65, you will commemorate half of your classmates "for the rest". Without any fighting. The remaining half will be "clients" of the oncology dispensary and other institutions of the Ministry of Health. Well, some lucky ones will indeed be peppy. Not because of a healthy lifestyle, but simply because of luck with the genes.
      2. +24
        1 October 2022 17: 55
        We called for privates and sergeants (whom I personally know) 45 and 49 years old, respectively. And there are 5 people. Are you talking about age... hi Yes, and they were not sent to training centers for training, but immediately to the Donbass, 3 days after the mobile phone was called back. Hello to the official channels with their show!
        1. +10
          1 October 2022 18: 17
          Alexei, whom I am talking about, was called up six days ago. I called from Maykop, two days later they were sent to the front
        2. +7
          1 October 2022 18: 40
          Quote: alexey2073
          the training centers did not send them for training, but immediately to the Donbass, 3 days after the mobi called back. Hello to the official channels with their show!

          I confirm that my friends also called back already from the Donbass, in the second line, asking to buy first-aid kits, armor and shoes from their relatives.
        3. -2
          1 October 2022 18: 58
          Quote: alexey2073
          We called for privates and sergeants (whom I personally know) 45 and 49 years old, respectively. And there are 5 people. Are you talking about age...

          I'm talking about age, because I know him a little.
          I am 49 and I run a race from sores and injuries, who wins.
          And when they catch up with me, I immediately remember that I'm not a boy.
          And I am aware that up to 64 it will not work to run away.
          64 is never 50.
      3. +2
        1 October 2022 18: 23
        Quote: Flood
        Privates and sergeants are subject to conscription until the age of 35

        It is not true. Up to 50 years old.
        1. -3
          1 October 2022 18: 42
          Quote: DenVB
          Quote: Flood
          Privates and sergeants are subject to conscription until the age of 35

          It is not true. Up to 50 years old.

          Privates up to 45.
        2. -2
          1 October 2022 19: 05
          Quote: DenVB
          It is not true. Up to 50 years old.

          found an explanation

          "The government of the Russian Federation has clarified the age limit for reservists called up for partial mobilization. The official answer to the question "Until what age can I be mobilized?" posted in the Telegram channel explain.rf.

          Age limit for conscription: for privates and sergeants - up to 50 years; junior officers - up to 60 years; senior officers - up to 65 years, the publication says.

          In addition to the age limit, the concept of priority is introduced, meaning that younger reservists are subject to partial mobilization in the first place.

          In priority order, the following are called: privates and sergeants - up to 35 years; junior officers - up to 50 years; senior officers - up to 55 years old," the publication noted.

          It is on the boundaries of the priority age of the reservists that the military registration and enlistment offices are guided.


          https://tvzvezda.ru/news/20229281531-Z7M46.html
      4. +10
        1 October 2022 18: 37
        Quote: Flood
        As for Shoigu, do you really believe that the place of the Minister of Defense is at the front?

        He doesn't take his place at all. If I were a decent person, after the shame with the provision and planning of operations of the General Staff, I would resign.
        1. +4
          1 October 2022 22: 08
          He doesn't take his place at all.

          “Thunder from a clear sky resounded five minutes later.
          - Mat! the frightened brunette murmured. Checkmate, comrade grandmaster!
          But Ostap and Kisa will sail away from the Vasyukinites. wink
        2. +3
          1 October 2022 23: 14
          lis-ik (Sergey), he wants a medal, at least one combat one. And he was awarded orders and medals, including the Order "For Personal Courage" (1994), the Order "For Merit to the Fatherland" III (2005) and II (2010) degrees, the Order of Honor (2008), the medal "Defender of Free Russia" (1993 ).
          In 2012 he was awarded the highest award of the Order of Malta - the Knight's Military Cross for mercy, salvation and help.
          Missing: Order of Motherhood, Medal for Breastfeeding.
      5. ASM
        +10
        1 October 2022 19: 17
        I believe that the post of Minister of Defense should be for a professional military man with extensive experience, and not for the foreman of the trust and the secretary of the Abakan city committee.
        1. +7
          1 October 2022 19: 38
          I believe that the post of Minister of Defense should be for a professional military man with extensive experience, and not for the foreman of the trust and the secretary of the Abakan city committee.
          Judging by the news from the front, there is definitely no suitable replacement in the General Staff. Though all personnel like.
        2. -1
          2 October 2022 01: 08
          Quote from A.S.M.
          I believe that the post of Minister of Defense should be for a professional military man with extensive experience, and not for the foreman of the trust and the secretary of the Abakan city committee.

          Now people are considering options between Ramzan Kadyrov and Prigozhin. So far, more votes have been cast for Prigozhin. But not by much - 44% against 39% for Ramzan.
        3. 0
          2 October 2022 05: 29
          Exactly.
          This one has already let slip about future waves of mobilization.
          Women will not be called up within the framework of partial mobilization, "the plans for this were not and are not, including in the future."

          This means that in the future they plan to mobilize more people, but only men.
          Just like Naryshkin in February about joining the LDNR.
        4. 0
          3 October 2022 09: 36
          Quote from A.S.M.
          I believe that the post of Minister of Defense should be for a professional military man with extensive experience, and not for master of the trust and secretary of the Abakan city ​​committee.

          I.V. Stalin had a different opinion - when he appointed the curator of the atomic project architect L.P. Beria
      6. +1
        2 October 2022 02: 18
        For Shoigu personally, there is no longer a place at the front, but a brick wall with accomplices. Let him begin to be baptized.
      7. -1
        2 October 2022 12: 09
        And the uniform is front-line. So the front is everywhere.
        By the way, are there any rules for wearing front-line uniforms? And, in general, is there a uniform at the front, or is everyone equipped with what the military department will send at market prices?
        War is not poker! It cannot be announced whenever it pleases.
        War is war.
        I order: immediately find and detain Baron Munchausen!
        In case of resistance to use force!
        War!
        Order for the army: general mobilization!
        Recall all those laid off in reserve. Cancel vacation.
        To build a guard in the central square. Uniform - summer, front.
        Blue uniforms with a gold rim. Sewn sleeve. The lapels are wide.
        The waistline is 10 cm lower than in peacetime.
        What?! Me - in this? Single-breasted?
        Don’t you know that no one is fighting in a single-breasted now?
        Ugliness! War is on the doorstep, and we are not ready.
        No, we are not ready for war.
        Take no prisoners!
        Lord officers!
        Let's check the clock! How many now?
        1. 0
          3 October 2022 09: 35
          Exactly. And Pikul has almost the same. The emperor was shown the troops and they looked good. Constantine opened the eyes of the autocrat. Naked people were hiding in the forest. When asked, they answered “we don’t know, we were ordered to do so.” Bennigsen, on the other hand, boldly replied to reproaches that he had the same lunch change only of two courses.
    3. +11
      1 October 2022 17: 50
      This is top management.
      He should be bombarded with rockets.
      Why don't they throw missiles at the leadership of Ukrainian terrorists.
      I dont know.
    4. +6
      1 October 2022 17: 55
      because they are in the photo, why are they at war
    5. +13
      1 October 2022 18: 06
      Another cheap window dressing that has nothing to do with reality. Shoigu needs to resign, since he is not able to straighten out the situation on the fronts, where we are "withdrawing to advantageous positions" or, worse, "regrouping" losing Kharkov region in battles.
      1. +3
        1 October 2022 18: 19
        the majority demands to the wall how to deal with it?
        1. +3
          1 October 2022 18: 30
          Charik - as a private to the front line with the entire General Staff and a group of generals and generals. And all the ordinary! And there, how they show themselves in battle, they get cold feet, they become young-hearted, then they will be shot in front of the ranks! !!
          1. +4
            1 October 2022 18: 41
            How do you think they will get to the front line? - Who will take them there by force, no, but how? Who will punish them even on the spot - even who will prove that they are guilty of any troubles. garbage generals in the suburbs of Moscow - seized and controlled without trial or investigation - the lawyers of these journalists will not release them in any way, having all the evidence of their innocence.
            1. +3
              1 October 2022 18: 53
              Charik - if there is even a drop of conscience left, then let him write a report on his resignation from the post of Minister of Defense and immediately leave for the front, not to command, but to fight himself - as a private. With his last order, he must send all his general staff doubts to the trenches - also as privates. But, alas, this will not happen, because at the front they shoot, injure or even kill. This is not a computer shooter, it will not work!
        2. +5
          1 October 2022 18: 43
          Quote: Charik
          the majority demands to the wall how to deal with it?

          Satisfy, at the request of workers.
          1. +1
            1 October 2022 19: 08
            the question is who? who will do it - there are creatures who are considered the instigators of all human troubles - they are known half the world - why they are not destroyed - everything is less trouble - than waving between the armies of different countries, controlling a thousand other rich billionaires and their henchmen (tv -radio-Internet of media owners) -all sorts -it will make ordinary people feel better (but this is not accurate -others can take their places -many people want to govern countries-peoples while destroying them)
      2. +10
        1 October 2022 18: 41
        It's cool: those who have served for a year, who already have honey agarics, are demobilized "on time", and the "bellies" are taken from the citizen after mobilization. Some kind of "surprise" is going on ....
        1. +2
          1 October 2022 22: 11
          And we have no conscripts. Therefore, he will be fired after completing his service, and upon exiting the checkpoint, he will be given a summons)))
          1. 0
            2 October 2022 13: 03
            Almost this is what happens sometimes: some in the spring were DMB, and now they have already left on mobilization ...
            1. 0
              2 October 2022 13: 46
              So the obvious solution. Like the call since November of this year. Sad real, no more
      3. 0
        1 October 2022 23: 14
        Nudak and the Aryans straightened the line of defense, it’s a shame for the “firefighter” that it turned out to be not a Man, but a friend and a kind of biathlon promoted
  2. +13
    1 October 2022 17: 33
    Kodyrov wrote !!!!!!!
    I have always said: there is nothing better than the voiced truth, albeit bitter, offensive, but the truth. This is the only way to move forward. Therefore, I cannot remain silent about what happened in Krasny Liman.

    The defense of this section was led by the commander of the Central Military District, Colonel-General Alexander Lapin. The same Lapin, who received the star of the Hero of Russia for the capture of Lisichansk, although de facto he was not there and was not around. Lapin was also given over to the troops of the Western Military District.

    The colonel-general deployed mobilized fighters from the LPR and other units on all frontiers of the Liman direction, but did not provide them with the necessary communications, interaction and the supply of ammunition. Two weeks ago, Major General Commander of the Akhmat Special Forces, my dear BROTHER Apty Alaudinov, personally reported to me that our fighters could become an easy target. In turn, I informed Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, about the danger. But the general assured me that he had no doubts about Lapin's leadership talent and did not believe that a retreat was possible in Krasny Liman and its environs.

    A week later, Lapin moves his headquarters to Starobelsk, a hundred kilometers from his subordinates, while he himself sits in Lugansk. How can you quickly manage units, being 150 km away from them? Due to the lack of elementary military logistics, today we have left several settlements and a large piece of territory.

    It's not a shame that Lapin is mediocre. And the fact that he is covered at the top by the leaders in the General Staff. If I had my way, I would have demoted Lapin to the rank of private, would have deprived him of his awards and, with a machine gun in his hands, would have sent him to the front lines to wash away my shame with blood.

    Army nepotism will not lead to good. In the army, it is necessary to appoint people of a strong character, courageous, principled, who worry about their fighters, who tear their teeth for their soldier, who know that a subordinate cannot be left without help and support. There is no place for nepotism in the army, especially in difficult times.

    We didn't have enough raisins? Even then, I said: shoot at the enemy’s military concentration in the Izyum captured by the Nazis, especially since our artillery at that time had such an opportunity. They would have done away with the main Satanists and fascists at once. We must carry out NWO in the full sense of the word, and not flirt. Use every opportunity and every weapon to defend OUR territory. Donetsk is still being shelled. Residents of the joined 4 territories want to be protected.

    I don't know what the RF Ministry of Defense reports to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, but in my personal opinion, more drastic measures should be taken, up to the declaration of martial law in the border areas and the use of low-yield nuclear weapons. It is not necessary to take every decision with an eye on the Western American community - it has already said so and done a lot against us.
    Yesterday there was a parade in Izyum, today a flag in Liman, and what tomorrow?
    Everything would be fine if it weren't so bad.
    1. +3
      1 October 2022 17: 51
      Lapin has already begun to excuse himself, they wrote that the ZVO in almost full force is unsuitable for professional
      1. +11
        1 October 2022 18: 01
        Quote: AlexTires
        Lapin has already begun to excuse himself, they wrote that the ZVO in almost full force is unsuitable for professional

        And it became clear only after the surrender of Krasny Liman? And Balakleya, Izyum, Kupyansk was it a brilliant regrouping? And everything suited everyone?
      2. RGB
        +17
        1 October 2022 18: 14
        If the whole ZVO prof is unsuitable, then what do they want to get from the mobilized peasants? 300000 people called! Question! For what purpose? Are they more pro fit?
        1. +4
          1 October 2022 22: 13
          Well, here the patriots were yelling that more meat is needed .... Here's meat for you. Then it turns out that for borscht you need more seasonings, cabbage with beets, a saucepan, a stove and still gas in it .....
          Or is there wood for a fire and a cauldron .....
        2. +1
          2 October 2022 21: 39
          Quote from RVA
          If the whole ZVO prof is unsuitable, then what do they want to get from the mobilized peasants?


          and how many of the military in the Western Military District are contract soldiers in terms of numbers and how many conscripts?. After all, conscripts are forbidden to be sent to the North Military District.
          Now imagine if our entire army were conscripts and Ukraine would go to clean up the Donbass in March 2022. And what would we say to the DPR and LPR? oh, excuse me, until we carry out mobilization and recruit "experienced" soldiers from non-professional military, we cannot help?
          The army should be fully contractual, and so that the contract soldiers do not try to scatter by submitting a report, as it was after February 24, there should be laws according to which they will sit for decades and return all the goodies that they received from the state.
          By the way, every Russian citizen pays taxes to the state, and from these very taxes the state contains both social and law enforcement agencies.
          For example, imagine that there was a fire and they answer your call to the fire department - you have hands and water in the tap. If you need fire equipment and equipment, well, skin yourself and put out. And we have a shortage of people.
          Call an ambulance and say that you have pain in one place or another and they answer you - pharmacies are open, go and buy medicines and inject yourself. And we have a shortage of people.
          Call the police that they are robbing you, and they answer - they are not robbing us, but you. You need to catch criminals. And we have a shortage of people.
          No country in the world can afford to maintain a million-strong army from the state budget in which more than half of it cannot be involved in military operations.
          The conscription service is bound to become a thing of the past forever, because to feed and support from the state budget more than 500 thousand people who are incapable of combat is a crime against the defense capability of the country and its citizens.
          1. 0
            3 October 2022 09: 52
            Quote: lopvlad
            By the way each a Russian citizen pays taxes to the state, and from these very taxes the state contains both social and law enforcement agencies.
            - Not everyone...
            The Federal Tax Service gives only 18% of the budget to the budget, customs duties on hydrocarbons give 62%.
            30% of citizens' houses and about 42% of citizens' land plots are not registered - taxes are not paid for them. In general ...
            Everything is not so good with us in the rest of the world - it’s their 95% tax that gives ....
            And we have "Didn't pay taxes / did the state stab? Oh, baby !!"
            1. 0
              4 October 2022 13: 23
              Quote: your1970
              And we have "Didn't pay taxes / did the state stab? Oh, baby !!"


              and then bailiffs come to such a young man, they don’t care that you didn’t pay taxes because you were laid off from work, they describe your property and you find yourself on the street, at best, in a cardboard box, or even wrapped in film.

              Quote: your1970
              Everything is not so good with us in the rest of the world - it’s their 95% tax that gives ....


              in the rest of the world, those who do not receive income do not pay taxes and are entitled to an allowance on which they can live and pay expenses, while in our country, regardless of whether you receive income or not, you are obliged to pay taxes.
              1. 0
                4 October 2022 14: 22
                Quote: lopvlad
                then bailiffs come to such a young man, they don’t care that you didn’t pay taxes because you were laid off from work, they describe your property and you find yourself on the street, at best, in a cardboard box, or even wrapped in film.

                And can you tell me the name of such a boxer ???!!
                And then our bailiffs only bred with pens - "no income, unemployed, minor children, the only housing" ....
                That's it ... figs what you get from them ...
                No, I'm lying - a TV and a refrigerator (if more than one) ...
                On tape, yeah...
                1. 0
                  4 October 2022 18: 25
                  Quote: your1970
                  And can you tell me the name of such a boxer ???!!


                  The base of debtors of the bailiffs has millions of people, and you are still looking for one last name?
                  1. 0
                    4 October 2022 18: 46
                    Quote: lopvlad
                    the base of debtors at the bailiffs has millions of people

                    That is, you are aware that after payments - the debtor leaves the database - due to the termination of enforcement proceedings? Which, in turn, means that if there are millions, then it is almost impossible to recover ...
                    Quote: lopvlad
                    Are you all looking for the same last name?

                    Namely!!! At least one last name - who was expelled in box!!!
                    And then there are millions of debtors across the country - and not a single one in boxes ....
                    Directly in front of me is a 4-storey Khrushchev building with 3 entrances - there are at least 6 people in it who are persistent non-payers of a communal apartment - 100 or more each. But WHY SOMETHING none of them have moved into boxes in the last 10 years. None
    2. +17
      1 October 2022 18: 02
      Quote: opuonmed
      How can you quickly manage units, being 150 km away from them?

      We have remote control of the whole country...
      I look at this “wrinkled” leadership without signs of military bearing, without a hitch, without a lively twinkle in the eyes, and I get scared that the fate of thousands of people is in the hands of these “leaders” ...
      Quote: opuonmed
      I don't know what the RF Ministry of Defense reports to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, but in my personal opinion, more drastic measures should be taken, up to the declaration of martial law in the border areas and the use of low-yield nuclear weapons.

      I suppose that even if the true situation is reported to the Supreme, he will not make a victorious decision. Some kind of nasty and nasty feeling that they are trying to quietly merge the country and are only waiting for the negotiations to begin ...
      1. 0
        1 October 2022 18: 34
        In turn, I informed Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, about the danger. But the general assured me that he had no doubts about Lapin's leadership talent and did not believe that a retreat was possible in Krasny Liman and its environs.


        and you think about the fact that even Valery Gerasimov didn’t see anything like that; they didn’t have a clear picture there in the course of the plan, or they blew in their ears! Ishe even zaluzhny about Gerasim used to praise him!
        1. 0
          3 October 2022 09: 40
          Zaluzhny trolled Gerasimov so subtly. He didn't even understand.
  3. +12
    1 October 2022 17: 33
    Marshal Plywood, because of Liman, the front may collapse, and you are doing garbage!
    1. +25
      1 October 2022 17: 45
      Remember the saying about: Army of Lions led by a ram? So! A ram would have done better. Shoigu is the best personification of rot under a false gloss of gloss. hi
      1. +11
        1 October 2022 17: 50
        I believe that we will win this war, But not thanks to the leading role of United Russia and the cunning strategy, God forgive me, "Supreme", but in spite of it.
        1. +3
          1 October 2022 22: 26
          Quote: Heisenberg
          I believe that we will win this war, But not thanks to the leading role of United Russia and the cunning strategy, God forgive me, "Supreme", but in spite of it.

          At what cost is the question
        2. +2
          2 October 2022 00: 46
          I also believe .... But how many waves of mobilization will be, how many of our guys will die. I had some kind of faith in the General Staff, but in the light of recent events, it is very painful for everything that is happening, for the teachers that the SBU took away, for the Raisins and those old people that they met with the Soviet flag ..... how many ghouls and now, in fact, we are leaving our land. The whole world is looking at us and a lot is at stake, but why do idiots command, why do I see in the "box" about sergeants, privates who could and did worthy attention, but majors, lieutenant colonels and even captains are not visible. Khodakovsky is right that the generals look down and this pack sits at the top, absolutely unrequited, covers each other and does not let anyone in. I don’t believe that we don’t have talents, but it’s clear that the system doesn’t work, I won’t talk about the top, although everything is from there, but something needs to be changed. Pi. Si. To the children of our good commanders, we live and are healthy. Sorry it hurt.
      2. +11
        1 October 2022 18: 39
        .Shoigu is the best personification of rot under a false gloss of gloss.

        Is this the first time in Russia? Rozhdestvensky before Tsushima was considered Nelson. He was formidable, demanded brilliance and did not tolerate advice. An eagle, not a commander.

        Eh, Shoigu. Not according to Senka, I decided to try on a hat. But what a dust-free place it was in peacetime. Honor and respect, especially among the female sex. Leave alone, but live quietly, do not disgrace Russia.
        1. 0
          1 October 2022 19: 07
          Then there were competent admirals, but now?
        2. +1
          1 October 2022 23: 29
          It’s better not to talk about Rozhestvensky in comparison with the “friend”, the Admiral himself was in that battle, and after Novikov-Priboy, where he wrote about chicken coops at the stern, the Internet appeared, and there is a lot of conflicting information, but where was the friend? Abkhazia? or the fact that the supply of many fire departments was optimized is the "merit" only of his heirs?
  4. +14
    1 October 2022 17: 35
    Let him fly to Omsk, and visit Svetly. In a field in tents, in Siberia in October., And we open the Arena with a minimum ticket price of 600 rubles.
  5. +11
    1 October 2022 17: 38
    Quote: ISKANDER_61
    Why are these three in the photo not at the front?

    They need to be against the wall.
  6. +14
    1 October 2022 17: 39
    The mobilized need to buy even sapper shovels themselves. And a list of 22 items. The minister is almost 70 years old and has no military education. As I understand it, he did not serve in the army and immediately became the Minister of Defense?
    1. 0
      1 October 2022 17: 46
      he did not serve in the army and immediately became the Minister of Defense

      It does not interfere laughing
    2. +12
      1 October 2022 18: 03
      Well, a wonderful career "jacket" after the military department. To reach the general of the army without serving in the army, not everyone can do that recourse
    3. +7
      1 October 2022 18: 03
      not immediately before this, the Ministry of Emergency Situations taxied, and even before that he was an instructor of the CPSU of the Krasnoyarsk Regional Committee, as you can see, a purely military man from an army dynasty
    4. +1
      1 October 2022 23: 44
      why are we worse than the Aryans, there is a gynecologist, he can change the gender of the "friend", then they will be more pleasant on vacation
    5. +2
      2 October 2022 07: 42
      No. From a lieutenant in the reserve, after a military department, he became a major general under Yeltsin.
  7. +11
    1 October 2022 17: 48
    The less personal property and real estate the management has, the more effective the leadership. An example is the commander of the Ukrainians and ours, order bearer, star-bearer, minister of defense. Profukali everything that is possible at the moment. A disgrace, so bring the army to the handle.
    1. 0
      3 October 2022 10: 08
      Quote: cmax
      An example is the commander of the Ukrainians and ours, order bearer, star-bearer, minister of defense. Profukali everything that is possible at the moment. A disgrace, so bring the army to the handle.

      1941, no??? And there was NO property with real estate - but they messed up to the fullest, up to and including Moscow ...
      Maybe it’s not about property / stars / orders ???
  8. +1
    1 October 2022 17: 48
    Kadyrov Ramzan to appoint the head of the General Staff of the Russian Federation
    1. +1
      1 October 2022 17: 55
      Do you really understand her that simple disciplinary measures in the form of a-ta-ta with a finger from the boss do not work for us. Just getting under the pope from the army, the offender does not go to the bunk, but to a warm place in the civil service
      Look, Navalny from deep dungeons posts a lot of material in the Washington Post, and in Russian, with theses on how he should equip Russia ...
  9. +7
    1 October 2022 17: 51
    Meanwhile, another regrouping... How ridiculous it all looks...
  10. +4
    1 October 2022 17: 54
    what are the movements of the minister of defense with the governor of Mosobl and the mayor of Moscow, I don’t understand at all what is going on, can Shoigu be a double?
    1. +8
      1 October 2022 18: 46
      Quote: Charik
      what are the movements of the minister of defense with the governor of Mosobl and the mayor of Moscow, I don’t understand at all what is going on, can Shoigu be a double?

      This is one team of thieves and crooks, when will everyone understand this? Probably when Russia, as a state, will not.
      1. -3
        1 October 2022 18: 49
        well, I don’t know, depending on how you understand it, a thief and a crook,
        1. +9
          1 October 2022 18: 56
          Quote: Charik
          well, I don’t know, depending on how you understand it, a thief and a crook,

          Sobyanin literally, about Shoigu ... I don’t know. where did everything go, at least from the stocks of the USSR, since the fighters themselves are now forced to buy everything. In general, is it a normal situation when you go to fight for their interests with your own money?
  11. +8
    1 October 2022 17: 55
    And at that time they surrendered Krasny Lyman ......... Minister of Defense ....... What????????
  12. 0
    1 October 2022 18: 01
    I don't want to upset you with bad news, but something serious happened in Belbek.
    Upd: Big fire at the airport...
  13. +7
    1 October 2022 18: 01
    and all these mane-shakers and hand-claps - what are they doing? Who will make them answer for their stupidity and mediocrity?
  14. +3
    1 October 2022 18: 02
    When will real, understanding commanders and not Lapins and other incomprehensible people already command armies in a war ???
  15. +11
    1 October 2022 18: 03
    and he does not want to answer questions about 80% of the latest weapons for words?
  16. 0
    1 October 2022 18: 06
    All the same, Shoigu's place in the Ministry of Emergencies. There he did better.
    1. +2
      1 October 2022 18: 23
      God forbid
      Quote: Million
      All the same, Shoigu's place in the Ministry of Emergencies. There he did better.
    2. -6
      1 October 2022 18: 24
      Yes, when I worked there for 5 years "with him" - they prayed for him there. Really
      1. +8
        1 October 2022 18: 33
        If you prayed for him there, you need to go straight to the front line. Your skill and experience in prayer will come in very handy there. The army is saturated to the limit with modern weapons. The only question is whose army?
        1. -7
          1 October 2022 18: 37
          Do not attribute your fantasies to me - I did not pray for him. It was written that many prayed for him. Make noise at someone else.
      2. +5
        1 October 2022 19: 59
        probably because: you don’t have to do a damn thing, but the money is paid (I guessed most likely, I knew the people who worked there, half of the former military guards of the nuclear power plant fled there because of the salary)
      3. 0
        1 October 2022 22: 33
        Everyone notes that Shoigu is a good business executive, but it is one thing to be a good business executive and quite another to be a military leader. He needs to leave, write a report and leave, but I don’t believe in it
        1. +2
          2 October 2022 07: 52
          A housekeeping man. And he built a glorious dacha and built a daughter. And in his free time he draws pictures and cuts wood.
          "Paintings and sculptures created by Shoigu were sold at auction for 40 million rubles."

          Read more at RBC:
          https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/609ef0129a794718f09a0c44
    3. +6
      1 October 2022 21: 03
      Well, yes, it worked when there were no fires and floods. He ordered uniforms and gloss, cutting fire brigades.
    4. 0
      3 October 2022 09: 43
      Yeah. The fire departments that went under the knife will not let you lie.
  17. +2
    1 October 2022 19: 10
    The planned demobilization of conscripts for the autumn draft will take place at the usual time. The postponement of the start of the draft to November 1 will not affect this in any way:

    Everything is according to plan, the Decree does not apply to this. From October 1, the guys will start returning home.

    Did this phrase surprise anyone?
    I don’t understand something about the conscription service. This is some kind of pioneer camp with games of Zarnitsa!
    The country is mobilizing! And then the kids from the pioneer camp will be released on time.
    What a surrealism!
    1. 0
      2 October 2022 13: 08
      Not quite so: some of those demobilized in the spring (and earlier) after military service are called up for mobilization. With those who are now serving, sometimes "unobtrusively" conclude a contract with all the ensuing consequences.
  18. ASM
    0
    1 October 2022 20: 12
    Since when can some president and minister replace the Federal Law with their insignificant voice? In the decree of Mr. Putin there is no indication of either the years of birth, or gender, or specialty. And how now to blame the military commissars, who, in accordance with the law, began mobilization? Now, Putin and Shoigu are simply speaking, without any legal basis, to advocate for some restrictions on conscription, and they make the military commissars extreme. You understand that the words of some citizens against federal laws are worthless!
  19. 0
    1 October 2022 22: 21
    Somehow the rules for wearing a military uniform are not in order. The devil is in the details.
  20. +1
    1 October 2022 22: 26
    He would go to lead the Ministry of Emergency Situations .... What is he, what is his entourage, stupid, whom NATO tactics outplayed outright !!!
  21. 0
    1 October 2022 23: 07
    Kadyrov wisely remarked that half of the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs should be sent to do their civil duty. They are in good physical shape, have fire training, are motivated to protect the interests of their homeland, and are minimally equipped with ammunition. And most importantly, half of the staff of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is more than 2.5 million people
  22. +4
    1 October 2022 23: 24
    jointly inspected a temporary accommodation center for citizens called up for partial mobilization, "Patriot". This point is clearly exemplary.
    indicative of the word SHOWING In everything. As already this eyewash has got, I want to yell a good obscenity. To whom is it shown, for what, why does this pile go there?????
    Something the faces of the inspectors are sour, this is apparently from success. And so far, nothing has changed. A bunch of lackeys in uniform on their hind legs curry favor with the minister, it's disgusting to look at. And the mobilized look into the mouth of this figure, as much as a whole minister came to visit them. And not one of them had the courage to ask him a question - T-Sch Min OB who is responsible for what happened at the front and why are we here?
  23. 0
    2 October 2022 00: 06
    friends,
    every little mobilization is a problem. However, Russia succeeded. In 1971, I survived the mobilization of only the formation of the regiment according to wartime numbers. I was a young assistant to a senior lieutenant colonel who went through the war with the Czechoslovak Army Corps, it fell apart, we were the junior lieutenants. It turned out well, whether we had too much of everything, or something was missing, but it was fixed within 24 hours. I have experienced mobilization once in my life and I would never want to experience it again. am
  24. +1
    2 October 2022 05: 32
    Before holding such an event, it was necessary to calculate and prepare everything.
  25. 0
    2 October 2022 09: 19
    Partial mobilization is good. Better than nothing . I found this here in Zen: https://dzen.ru/media/id/5fce981bb214ef1602170ea2/6336d551fba3c50ea76dc4c6..
  26. 0
    2 October 2022 11: 34
    Clowning and not mobilization. Summons were given, annulled, rusty machine guns, stupid military commissars. Circus Shoiguto. Why not give out something like reservist letters. The Motherland is in danger, your help is needed, get up the country, etc. without threats from the cops and the prosecutor's office. And then it becomes clear xy from xy.
  27. 0
    3 October 2022 09: 25
    And what, the Minister of Defense has nothing more to say? For example, about the disgrace that the General Staff spread. Or is he out of business?