NATO recognizes Ukraine's right to join the alliance, but will focus on providing military assistance - Stoltenberg

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NATO recognizes Ukraine's right to join the alliance, but will focus on providing military assistance - Stoltenberg

NATO recognizes the right of every state to join the alliance and keeps the "doors open" but will concentrate on providing military assistance to Ukraine. This was stated by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, commenting on Zelensky's today's statement about an "urgent" application to join the military-political bloc.

Today in Kyiv, reacting to the signing of agreements on the entry of four new regions into Russia, they announced that they were submitting an "urgent" application for joining NATO. Zelensky made such a statement. However, Stoltenberg's response showed that no one in the alliance is waiting for Ukraine, especially "urgently." They promise support, even condemn the annexation of new territories and promise not to recognize them, but with the entry - no. Maybe sometime in the future, but not today. Today - protection from the "Russian invasion".



The doors to NATO remain open. We have demonstrated this in recent years…. The decision on membership is taken by all 30 allies unanimously. Our current goal is to provide urgent assistance to Ukraine to help it defend itself against a Russian invasion. Now this is the main task of the alliance

- declared Stoltenberg.

Reportedly, in response to the accession of new territories to Russia, the NATO Secretary General promised an even greater expansion of the alliance to the east, declaring the need to defend "every millimeter of its territory."

Meanwhile, a number of military experts predicted NATO's reaction to Zelensky's statement about the procedure for joining the alliance. When Ukraine joins the alliance, Article 5 of NATO, which provides for collective defense, comes into play. involvement of the bloc in the conflict, and neither the United States nor other European countries will agree to this.
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  1. +11
    30 September 2022 20: 19
    as I wrote in the next topic, NATA is not aware that the ruin wants to enter it
    1. +17
      30 September 2022 20: 35
      All of them are aware, but it is one thing to fight with proxy, another thing to harness yourself.
      1. +7
        30 September 2022 21: 03
        Quote: Vladimir M
        All of them are aware, but it is one thing to fight with proxy, another thing to harness yourself.

        They said they would fight to the last Ukrainian.
        1. +4
          1 October 2022 00: 03
          And then, and he voiced the same thing: an even greater expansion of the alliance to the east, declaring the need to defend "every millimeter of its territory."
          Those. in the wake of Ukraine, other undecided countries will also try to lead to the same state. There is something to think about, especially in foreign policy, including in the CSTO.
          1. +2
            1 October 2022 00: 18
            Quote from Mitos
            And after, and he voiced the same thing: an even greater expansion of the alliance to the east, declaring the need to defend "every millimeter of its territory".

            Which is not yet "one's own".
            Appetite voiced.
          2. 0
            1 October 2022 02: 17
            Quote from Mitos
            And then, and he voiced the same thing: an even greater expansion of the alliance to the east, declaring the need to defend "every millimeter of its territory."

            Well, they won't get Ukraine in NATO. If only because it is the shortest path to the Third, nuclear, world war. That is, to the mutual destruction of the United States and Russia. And besides Ukraine, where else can they expand to the east? To Moldova? To Georgia?
            The expansion of NATO to the east should have scared us in 90. Now what is the threat? everything has already happened.

            They say that after the Third World War only cockroaches will survive - they are insensitive to radiation, they eat everything in a row, they can withstand cold up to minus forty. So America and Russia will glass each other, but even cockroaches will not remember about Europe. As if she had never existed with all the Ursuls, Stoltenberg Burbocks and others.
            1. +1
              1 October 2022 03: 43
              there will be no third world war, at least in a nuclear-classical form, the reason is banal, no one can and will not want to defeat a nuclear power, there will be a war based on "mutual destruction of key objects", preferably "through third parties". For example, the destruction of power lines, pipelines, hydroelectric power stations, thermal power plants, factories / plants, etc.
              1. 0
                1 October 2022 07: 02
                Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                there will be no third world war, at least in a nuclear-classical form, the reason is banal, no one can and will not want to defeat a nuclear power, there will be a war based on "mutual destruction of key objects", preferably "through third parties". For example, the destruction of power lines, pipelines, hydroelectric power stations, thermal power plants, factories / plants, etc.

                Yes, you are right, Sergey, in everything ...

                But what an interesting thing - the United States blew up our gas pipeline, and they themselves are reinforced concrete invulnerable? Do they have the same sensitive points? And if, for example, the transatlantic cable is "accidentally" damaged? America's power is based on money, and here, imagine, American banks have no connection with their branches for at least a couple of days. It's billions and billions.

                Why am I not talking about money when talking about our gas pipeline, but when talking about America, first of all about dollars? Yes, because America is a nation of hucksters. And the huckster's weakest point is his wallet. You have to hit him.
                1. 0
                  5 October 2022 20: 44
                  the fact that they blew it up is a fact, but the fact that the United States is far from a fact, it could be anyone, IN THE LITERAL SENSE, ANYONE. well, here's an example:
                  1) "Gazprom's employees could do this in order to relieve themselves of all legal responsibility under the contracts through the force majeure clause of the contract"
                  2) or "Gazprom shareholders, including Western shareholders, could have done this in order to make money on stock exchanges through insider information"
                  3) or "the authorities of the Russian Federation could have done this in order to start panic and internal uprisings against the EU authorities"
                  4) or "the Chinese could have done this in order to cut the dough on the liquefaction of gas and its resale in the EU"
                  N) you can come up with +100500 more options ....
        2. 0
          1 October 2022 00: 31
          Quote: SKVichyakow
          Quote: Vladimir M
          All of them are aware, but it is one thing to fight with proxy, another thing to harness yourself.

          They said they would fight to the last Ukrainian.

          And Zelinsky just doesn’t want to put on military equipment and become the last Ukrainian in the Ukraine-Russia battles ....
    2. +5
      30 September 2022 20: 37
      Ukra mattresses only need a proxy, to bleed Russia as much as possible, if a weak spot appears, the blow will be immediate, now they are waiting for a response to a terrorist attack in the Baltic and do not know exactly what will follow in response - a satellite constellation, a transatlantic cable, gas carriers or a Baltic pipe. That this will be decided by the supreme, but at the slightest suspicion, the Anglo-Saxons must go to hell, collectively.
      1. +4
        30 September 2022 23: 30
        Yes, there will be no answer, unfortunately, no one has taken seriously the threat of strikes against decision-making centers there for a long time.
    3. +9
      30 September 2022 20: 40
      Enter the one who performs a passive function in the sexual act. So the Ruin, by definition, cannot enter somewhere. They can only enter it.
      1. +4
        30 September 2022 23: 39
        Quote: Metallurg_2
        They can only enter it.

        So they entered it.
        Since 2014
        Now under Krasny Liman miscarriages from all over NATO are bestial.
    4. +1
      30 September 2022 22: 49
      NATO is happy to have such a member in its ranks, for which it will be necessary to stand up directly.
  2. +8
    30 September 2022 20: 19
    Tactfully .. A woman sent me to the forest for a Christmas tree. Well, she sent and sent ...
    1. +4
      30 September 2022 20: 33
      Quote: dmi.pris
      .Well, sent and sent ...

      "Wherever I sent, there I go..."
      By the way, this can be sent in Russian, it sounds more colorful.
      1. +1
        30 September 2022 20: 51
        By the way, this can be sent in Russian, it sounds more colorful

        Especially after the herring! drinks It was already 18:00! hi
    2. +10
      30 September 2022 21: 29
      Stoltenberg obviously didn’t send dill, but simply read Plan B ... it’s not for him to determine NATO’s policy on Ukraine, he’s just a talking head ... Plan A failed for them - Putin didn’t mumble, completed the unification and in his speech sent the whole West to .... They did not expect this, and Zelya completed the first "pa" from point A, but by the time Stoltenberg spoke, the United States had already launched plan B and the first "pa" of the Clown went like a bunch into the ocean water. They clearly did not expect such clarity of accusations and clarity of reference to the absence of a taboo on the use of nuclear weapons after the US precedent in Hiroshima and poked a bayonet at those responsible for blowing up the gas pipeline, called the roles of all "US allies" as slaves and vassals, which implies that there is no need to discuss with them a new world order (which deprives them of the opportunity to enter the UN Security Council, just "you are nobody") ... which is why the usually arrogant Stoltenberg was pathetic and confused, they blinded plan B to the extreme, confident that everything would go according to their forecasts along the path they had beaten Plan A. BREAKED!
  3. +3
    30 September 2022 20: 20
    Yeah, the doors are open, and everything else is tightly screwed to the floor, especially if such vegetables as green arrive. ... continental beggars.
    1. +2
      30 September 2022 20: 27
      Quote: Thrifty
      Yep, the doors are open.

      It's time to shut down and save energy.
      1. +1
        30 September 2022 23: 33
        But why let the Sarmat fly through this open door.
    2. +1
      1 October 2022 02: 25
      Quote: Thrifty
      Yeah, the doors are open, and everything else is tightly screwed to the floor

      If they don't let you live in the "NATO house", so that at least nothing is stolen? lol
  4. +8
    30 September 2022 20: 21
    However, Stoltenberg's response showed that no one in the alliance is waiting for Ukraine, especially "urgently."

    Especially when our hackers are not sleeping. laughing
    1. +8
      30 September 2022 20: 32
      In Ukraine, from such a report, the key to start, broach, ignition ... Bzdyn.
    2. -7
      30 September 2022 21: 48
      Oh, again, the Russian enemies of the USSR should change the manuals, because "modern Ukraine", which appeared in 1991, like the Russian Federation, could not have been created by Lenin.
      True, it is not clear what kind of Russia, which transferred "significant territories" to create "modern Ukraine", Putin had in mind.
  5. +5
    30 September 2022 20: 22
    NATO recognizes the right of every state to join the alliance and keeps the "doors open"

    ***
    - "Your doors are wide open, and your soul is locked up" ...


    ***
  6. +10
    30 September 2022 20: 23
    The clown made one last attempt to keep a good face on a bad game.
    I wanted to make an effect with a loud and pathetic statement.
    But he was taken by the scruff of the neck and put out the door, like the last homeless man, the only thing they promised him was to give him a stick, but he would have to fight with the Russians himself in the West, there are no fools to climb under Russian missiles.
    1. +5
      30 September 2022 20: 30
      But he was taken by the scruff of the neck and put out the door like the last bum

      Did he really think that someone would let him sit at the same table with white people? laughing
  7. +1
    30 September 2022 20: 25
    NATE has nothing to fight with! There were still not enough of these "hungers" to hang around your neck! what
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  9. +2
    30 September 2022 20: 27
    Who told you Seryozha that you were set up? You ki-well-whether!
  10. +4
    30 September 2022 20: 27
    -You come to visit more often.
    - So you tell me the address
    - you come in, you come in...
    Well, what hohLy, they threw you... Eh, headless meat...
  11. +1
    30 September 2022 20: 28
    If, foolishly or in spite of the Russian Federation, they still accept Ukraine into NATO, contrary to the charter of this sharashka, this will only speed up the need to eliminate the "country 404" and on both sides - both NATO and the Russian Federation - there is no such country, there are no problems with all sorts of nats and 5 articles.
    This will be NATO's war to the last Ukrainian - in order not to have problems with rabies, who are spreading all over the world and sucking out funds for their arrangement and maintenance, not particularly wanting to work and in order to destroy everything valuable in those Ukrainian territories that used to be - later, but will return. in Russia.
  12. +16
    30 September 2022 20: 28

    Well, son, did your NATO help you? 2022
  13. +3
    30 September 2022 20: 37
    Ukraine will also destroy NATO.

    Yes, and Article 5 is a myth for the Baltic states-
    There are also 2 and 4, which say that everything is decided by negotiations, but not by war
  14. +1
    30 September 2022 20: 39
    The doors of NATO tremors, flower beds, for naive Ukrainians, are always open.
  15. +3
    30 September 2022 20: 39
    Yes. military assistance. Ukraine. And what about the gas pipeline and the Malaysian Boeing?
    1. +1
      30 September 2022 21: 19
      Quote: Pavel73
      Yes. military assistance. Ukraine. And what about the gas pipeline and the Malaysian Boeing?

      Well, the next one is bacteriological laboratories on the territory of Ukraine-Kazakhstan-Georgia, etc. All around Russia
      It’s not for nothing that they have been studying something there for 20 years ..
      So you need to be ready for anything guys .. These Anglo-Saxons will do anything for their profits. angry
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  17. +4
    30 September 2022 20: 42
    Instead of a cool answer to Putin, the clown got the usual fart in his bloomers. How would you like to show your...
    1. 0
      1 October 2022 02: 34
      Quote: Leshak
      How would you like to show your...

      lol
  18. 0
    30 September 2022 20: 45
    Not everything is as simple as it seems!!! The jokes are over...
  19. +2
    30 September 2022 20: 46
    Belkovsky:
    Putin actually announced a tactical nuclear strike on Ukraine in order to force capitulation.
    The United States is the only country in the world to have used nuclear weapons twice, they "set a precedent."


    A light allusion to Thick circumstances! wassat
  20. +2
    30 September 2022 20: 47
    What kind of NATO, the EU imposed sanctions against our toilet paper, without thinking, and suddenly Force Majeure.
  21. +2
    30 September 2022 20: 59
    According to the NATO charter, countries that do not have territorial problems can be accepted. Or not?
    1. +1
      30 September 2022 21: 22
      Quote: Lexandrich
      According to the NATO charter, countries that do not have territorial problems can be accepted. Or not?

      NATO, it remains only the United States with its trillions of debts and a thirst to pit someone in Eurasia and again write off and make money in the war .. Yes, figs to them! Soon they will all be back
  22. +1
    30 September 2022 21: 48
    If the West wanted to interrupt the information occasion, then it turned out unconvincingly.
  23. +1
    30 September 2022 21: 50
    expected. I'm more interested in what is there at the end of the UN meeting, with the provision on our part of some facts about explosions in gas pipelines. Will they directly accuse, without equivocals, of the act of state terrorism the arrogant ones. When and where infa appears more quickly, who knows?
  24. 0
    30 September 2022 21: 52
    Ukraine will not be officially accepted into NATO, since paragraph No. 5 of the NATO Charter will come into effect, which reads (one for all and all for one), which means that all of Europe will have to enter into a military conflict with Russia, and this is a disaster for her because . Russia may well use more serious weapons.
  25. +2
    30 September 2022 22: 07
    The doors are open, but the porter won't let you in. Rozhey did not come out.
  26. +1
    30 September 2022 22: 57
    " Assistant to the President of the United States for National Security Jake Sullivan said that now is not the time for the process of accepting Ukraine into the North Atlantic Alliance." - Finita....
  27. +1
    30 September 2022 23: 10
    "Well, I didn't Shmogla, I didn't Shmogla..." (nata)
  28. +1
    1 October 2022 00: 09
    This means that NATO wants to harm Russia, but so that they don’t get anything for it.
    That is, they do not want to die for this, they do not want to destroy their country, and they do not want to worsen the comfortable life in their country. They do not want to lose their achievements, without which they will quickly turn into third world countries, and it is not known whether they will be able to break through the food chain again among other competitors.

    Now the West is trying by all available means to stay at the top of the world food chain. They receive material values ​​in exchange for services and digital products. It is necessary to press them with the supply of material values, let them heat the dollars in the stove, and spread them on bread, and build paper houses. Timber, cement, fertilizer, grain, oil, gas, titanium and other industrial materials. Russia and its partners have many important trump cards in their hands, and not just weapons. But weapons are used as a last resort, and now they have just gone to extremes (the Ukrainian authorities killed thousands of people in their country because of their good attitude towards Russia).
  29. +1
    1 October 2022 01: 52
    Interestingly, do the Ukrainians themselves still believe in their entry into NATO? I'm not sure about something.
  30. +1
    1 October 2022 03: 38
    It was both funny and foul to watch the video where Zelensky signs a petition to NATO. From left to right, two thugs are guarding him so that he does not jump off the topic. Kitchen stool, nothing more decent was found. No people, no one, only a clown and two power acrobats on the stage, well, really like in a circus. And as he signed, his hands were shaking, so much so that he struck as much as half a sheet, either he drew the letter Z there, or he put crosses instead of a signature. In order to refuse later, they say, and these scribbles are not my signature at all.