The President of the Russian Federation signed decrees recognizing the independence of Zaporozhye and Kherson regions

Russia recognized the independence of the Zaporizhia and Kherson regions, the corresponding decrees were signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin the night before. Both decrees have already been posted on the official Internet portal of legal information.

Russia recognized the independence of two former Ukrainian regions - Zaporozhye and Kherson. This is a necessary procedure before the acceptance of these regions into Russia. The regions had previously declared their independence from Ukraine, after which they held referendums to determine their future fate and chose to join the Russian Federation. In February, Moscow recognized the independence and sovereignty of the Donetsk and Luhansk republics. So now everything is in accordance with international law - four independent territories are part of Russia.

In accordance with the generally accepted principles and norms of international law, recognizing and reaffirming the principle of equality and self-determination of peoples, enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, taking into account the will of the people of the Zaporizhzhia region at the referendum held on September 27, 2022, I decide: Recognize the sovereignty and independence of the Zaporizhia region

- the decree says. The text of the second is similar, only in relation to the Kherson region.

The final entry of new territories into Russia will take place today, September 30, during a solemn ceremony in the Kremlin. Previously, Putin will hold meetings with all the heads of the new regions, after which agreements will be signed on the entry into Russia of all four territories where referendums were held and which have applied to Russia with a corresponding request.

As the State Duma announced the day before, the new regions will retain their status, i.е. Russia will grow with two republics and two regions, which, together with Crimea, will form a new federal district - Crimean. At least that's what it claims.

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[Tatar 174]

It's time to collect the land - this time has come! USSR v 2.0 - assembly starts?

[dmi.pris1]

Now these people who believed in Russia must be protected. And so protected that not one nasty thing would think of returning to Bandera

[seregatara1969]

The USSR will not return! And no one is going to revive it. We will live differently, in a new way. We will rebuild in a new way, as Gorbachev bequeathed. live differently, think differently. If no one harms

[paul3390]

We will not return the USSR - we will lose the war with the West .. For people - they must clearly understand what exactly they will suffer hardships and die for .. And it is somehow difficult to do this against the backdrop of noneshny bourgeois lawlessness. And everything will end like in WWI. No - USSR 2.1 is our only chance for survival and victory. It was under the Red Banner that we defeated a united Europe last time. And only under it - we can win now ..

[Plate]

I'm from the post-Soviet generation. Honestly, if you announced some kind of USSR now, it would not become clearer what you have to die for. Personally, the USSR impresses me only because it had global claims and generally looks epic in a history textbook. But after all, the Russian Federation may well put forward claims of a hoo what level. Yes, they have already been put forward: remember the "draft security treaty" (something like that) of December last year. So, as a representative of a generation that will take over the baton in a couple of decades, this proposal is completely incomprehensible to me - the restoration of a system that has already proven its inoperability. Well, it will last these couple of decades successfully, good. So? Demolition again?
I have already said that I see a solution to Soviet problems in the implementation of OGAS using modern technology, but the result is clearly not the USSR. Yes, in fact, the implementation of such a project is a completely logical continuation of the world course towards the computerization of everything in general. That, in my opinion, is where we should move, and not to the Soviet Union.

[paul3390]

And no one says that it is necessary to recreate the USSR one to one. Because that would be sheer stupidity. Work on mistakes - it is necessary to do without options.

[Alexander Salenko]

It's a question of relationships. In the USSR, too, not everything was good, but there, for example, you didn’t have a headache about the apartment. You had somewhere to live even in cramped conditions, but sooner or later you received housing.
Since you are a post-Soviet person, then you have experience of capitalism. well, for example. it's hard to find a job. and the one that is there show-off pay. If you are good with this, then you probably have such acquaintances. But to hell with her small payment, there is no prospect there. I take a wide group of people. supermarkets, for example, what is the prospect there? From a cashier to become a senior cashier? Something to do in the security? In a small private shop it is not better, there is more freedom but also more work itself.
At the factory, you can't earn enough to get a mortgage. for example, they also want to pay you little, because if you are paid a lot, then it means to me, conditionally. as a capitalist, gets less? Why pay more when you can pay less?
This is the logic of capitalism, take my word for it, I hire workers myself sometimes, but there are those who are more greyhounds in terms of payment for the same work.
Work is also a market. There is only one difference, if you came to buy apricots or cherries there, then you have many buyers. Of course, they agreed on a price, so they have been doing it since the time of the Phoenicians. But you are free to choose.
With work, on the contrary, there is one seller, conditionally, and a bunch of buyers. Unemployment, by the way, is growing from there. The capitalist will survive without you, and you need to eat every day - that's the difference.

[Alexander Salenko]

Pavel, I have great sympathy for the USSR, but it also did not work, did the rebirth of the party elite somehow pass? Has he become a class instead of a layer? And one more trouble, the working class did not become the ruling class. And now there are problems with him.
Now the modern bourgeoisie is developing its industry, not as it would like, but, therefore, it needs this same working class. Only conclusions must be drawn because of their inaction.

[paul3390]

Let's take a look at the situation. All the classics wrote about the degeneration of the party, including Lenin and Trotsky, and even Comrade Stalin himself. As well as the danger of the Party usurping the power of the Workers' Soviets. But nevertheless, it happened. Why?

To start. In order for the power of the Soviets to become real, the people must be taught how to actually govern the country. And teach him to understand what his interests are. Now - re-introduce Soviet power, what do you think - who will immediately get into the Soviets? Yes, the same as now! Then - what's the difference? This means that a dictatorship of the proletariat is needed, headed by someone who will carry out this process of educating the masses. That is - the party, how without it?

What should be done so that the party does not degenerate? Introduce broad party democracy on all issues. Ensuring a real turnover of functionaries and the immediate removal of presumptuous. Periodically carrying out purges of this very party. But when the required number of competent ideological people is formed, you can already transfer real power to the Soviets ..

Actually, that's how it went. But - there was a WAR .. In which the USSR lost a supercritical number of communists, the very ones who were supposed to make the transition to true democracy. In addition, democracy cannot win a war; a strict concentration of power in one hand was necessary. Party hands. Otherwise we would have lost. And from after - in connection with the loss of those who were supposed to control the party, everything rolled along the path known to us .. In full accordance with the predictions of the classics ..

How to avoid this in the future is an open question. Although - there are developments. For this is a very delicate moment - the transition from the concentration of power necessary for building a socialist state and defeating the bourgeoisie to true democracy of the Soviets and direct democracy ..

[Alexander Salenko]

So I agree, as far as I remember, three compositions of the CPSU (b) were knocked out, and there is also the effect that some make their way up, and some emerge.

[Maz]

Thank God, finally, otherwise we were already waiting

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

It is necessary to call the new federal district South-Western, not Crimean. In the future, all of Novorossia will need to be annexed to Russia: in addition, the Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev and Odessa regions.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

call the federal district Southwestern,

... + it is quite appropriate to give the historical name Taurida .. but this is after the adoption of the Nikolaev and Odessa regions

[Orca]

Is it Tavrida or the Taurida Federal District?

[AIK05]

Excellent, congratulations to all Russians, our family has replenished with real Patriots of Russia!

[Aaron Zawi]

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Excellent, congratulations to all Russians, our family has replenished with real Patriots of Russia!

Well, well.

[aszzz888]

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Excellent, congratulations to all Russians, our family has replenished with real Patriots of Russia!

Well, well.

nothing depends on your "well-well". Nothing from the word. Zero. Zero.

[AdAstra]

Not yet, only their independence has been recognized, now they are, as it were, independent states.

[aszzz888]

AdAstra
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Not yet, only their independence has been recognized, now they are, as it were, independent states.

those. Russia will grow with two republics and two regions, which, together with Crimea, will form a new federal district - Crimean. At least that's what it claims.

[Two]

Good deal! We will continue with confidence!

[rotmistr60]

Finally, people have waited for what they have been waiting for at least 8 years. It remains to be congratulated.

[Sergey Kuzmin]

Long live the Crimean Federal District! We welcome a new district from Siberia! Although ... it would be possible to call the new district NOVOROSSIYSKY ...., so that later the Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa and Nikolaev regions would be accepted into it ...

[Rustic]

Although ... it would be possible to call the new district NOVOROSSIYSKY ..

It's not the best choice either. There will be confusion with the city of Novorossiysk. Which won't even be in this county. Then, as it seems from Siberia, one could call the Black Sea. So to speak for the future.

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

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Then, as it seems from Siberia, one could call the Black Sea. So to speak for the future.

No, we will not join the hungry Romanians and Bulgarians to Russia, let the EU feed them.

[Rustic]

No, we will not join the hungry Romanians and Bulgarians to Russia, let the EU feed them.

These are yes, and nafig are not needed. But Transnistria is quite. Again, the Far East is the same, not only Russia, although for those it is not the far one for sure. But then again, I'm so, by Siberian standards. Crimea is Crimea after all. And Kherson, Crimea, Nikolaev, Odessa. And Donetsk and Zaporozhye are also among them. This is if in general - the Black Sea coast. And the fact that the Turks are on the other side of the sea, so it is on the other side. Let them sit right there.
It's just that all these northwestern, southeastern ones .... Where do we count from? No, as I understand it, they consider it from the Siberian and Ural. Because they are, regardless of where to count. But I don't think the calculation approach is correct. Not in directions, (to the west-to the east) not in time (Novorossiya-Starorossiya). What should the Urals share with the Siberians? There is nothing. Everyone is in himself. And even Crimean, someone is in the Crimea, and someone, as it were, not very much. And the Black Sea is big. There and Lugansk in general nearby.

[composite]

Okay, peace is finally here.
Could have added more.

[Olezhek]

It would be nice.
What about the Red Liman?

[composite]

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It would be nice.
What about the Red Liman?

judging by the reports, if not a celebratory curtailment, then a gesture of good will is not marked there.

[Paul Siebert]

- I have an offer!
- No objections!!!

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

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- "Russia will be inspired by the deeds of Peter the Great - long and hard to return its own" ...
- "The borders of Russia do not end anywhere" ...
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[Dikson]

And this is very correct! And very well indeed.. Russian people should be together, and then we will not be afraid of any difficulties.. I congratulate everyone on this truly historic event!

[Orca]

Everyone? And those who, shaking for their bucks-euro, dumped them in Israel, or in the states?

[Igor-68]

Time to collect our country. Ahead - Nikolaev, Odessa, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Narva, Northern Kazakhstan.

[uralex]

Hurrah, comrades! Long live the revival of the great and mighty Russia!

[Doron 7]

Well, yes... Of course... Hurrah... Hurrah...

[sledak]

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We will rebuild in a new way, as Gorbachev bequeathed.

This phrase spoiled or perverted the entire positive message. If you live like a labeled "bequeathed", then Rossi might no longer exist.

[Sergej1972]

We will have to make changes to the Constitution in the future to justify the fact that the DPR and LPR will remain republics. After all, the main distinguishing feature of the republic is the possibility of using another or other official languages, in addition to Russian. And also, logically, the presence of a non-Russian ethnos (or ethnoses) constituting (constituting) the majority or a significant part of the population. According to this logic, the status of a republic is more suitable for the Kherson region, where there are quite a lot of Ukrainian speakers.

[ratoborets]

In the LDNR, Ukrainian is not needed from the word at all, there 99% of people use Russian, no one needs Ukrainian and it was canceled back in 2020.
It is easier to give the regions the right to introduce a second official one, so as not to produce unnecessary republics.

[ratoborets]

If Russian and Ukrainian have the same status on the territory of the subject, then in 5-10 years no one will simply need Ukrainian without any coercion.

[AdAstra]

"The President of the Russian Federation signed decrees on the RECOGNITION OF INDEPENDENCE of Zaporozhye and Kherson regions"
Here. So far no one has entered. Do not run ahead of the locomotive. And as they wrote here "that people have been waiting for this for 8 years", then it should not be confused with the LDNR, since I personally doubt that Zaporozhye and Kherson have been waiting for this for 8 years.

[Ivan Ivanov]

The main thing is to take place. Erdogan's proposal to give a chance to negotiations is straining.

[former soldier]

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It's time to collect the land - this time has come! USSR v 2.0 - assembly starts?

It's not even that. If they didn’t try to make Anti-Russia out of Ukraine and the Ukrainian authorities themselves didn’t try to build their well-being on this and put anti-Russian and anti-Russian princes as the basis of Ukrainian statehood, then God would live with them separately. This would sometimes be beneficial. Stalin dragged Ukraine into the UN as a separate state.