Western media: Already this winter, Europeans may be left without cellular communications and mobile Internet

It turns out that the lack of cheap, and generally any, Russian gas can not only "freeze" Europe in the coming winter, but also leave EU residents without their usual telecommunications services. Reuters reported that due to power outages, most cellular operators in the Old World may stop providing mobile communications and the Internet.

There are currently not enough redundant systems in many European countries to deal with massive power outages, four telecom executives said. This increases the likelihood of disconnection of mobile communications. There are almost half a million telecommunications towers in Europe, and most of them have backup batteries that last about 30 minutes in the event of a power outage.

Leading telecoms companies are now forced to develop emergency response plans in the event of a power outage of communication centers and cell towers. Thus, the French electricity distributor Enedis promised that during long (more than two hours) power outages, it will be able to maintain power supply only to critical social facilities. Cellular operators are not included in their number.

A spokesman for the French finance ministry declined to comment on talks with Enedis, telecommunications groups and the government.

Reuters reports.

The Swedish telecommunications regulator PTS is working with telecom operators and other government agencies to find solutions in case electricity distribution is rationed during the winter.

Power outages increase the likelihood of failure of electronic components in the event of sudden interruptions

Massimo Sarmi, a representative of the association of the Italian telecommunications industry, told the agency.

Representatives of two leading European telecommunications equipment companies, Nokia and Ericsson, declined to comment on the issue, Reuters reported.

Germany's Deutsche Telekom has 33 mobile radio stations (towers) and its mobile emergency power systems can only support a small number at a time, a company spokesman said.

In France, according to Western media, there are about 62 mobile towers, and the industry will not be able to equip all the antennas with new batteries, said FFT President Lisa Bellulo.

Europe has been too spoiled for uninterrupted energy supplies and stable energy supply over the past decades. And now it turned out to be technically not ready to provide the telecommuting industry with backup capacities in case of unforeseen circumstances.

It can be assumed that this unpleasant news for Europeans is just the tip of the iceberg, which will grow more and more in the winter. Until one day it capsizes, finally sinking the "European Titanic".

Comments

[opuonmed]

yes, they scare with a specialist that the Europeans would go to the Russian Federation! they have the Russian Federation to blame for everything! and false hopes give our rulers that they will agree! although their goal is to destroy the Russian Federation, if not as a prize, if they win, there will be large resources of the Russian Federation for free! and if they lose, then they don’t lose anything, so the Russian Federation didn’t forbid them to sell resources! well this is my fantasy

[Vend]

Will read newspapers and listen to the radio

[gansales]

Quote: Wend

Will read newspapers and listen to the radio

Near the fires and sing songs in chorus. Romance !!!!
Where are you, my dear Augustine ..and When my husband left for gas ha ha

The United States bent Germany powerfully .. Oh Fritz, you did not obey the Russians.

[Aaron Zawi]

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Quote: Wend

Will read newspapers and listen to the radio

Near the fires and sing songs in chorus. Romance !!!!
Where are you, my dear Augustine ..and When my husband left for gas ha ha

The United States bent Germany powerfully .. Oh Fritz, you did not obey the Russians.

Vitalya, can I upset you a bit with the numbers?

[Dali]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Vitalya, can I upset you a bit with the numbers?

And what are we waiting for, everyone will be interested. Tokma do not forget to indicate the sources of the numbers.
As they say - called himself a loader, climb into the body !!!

[Shurik70]

Electricity distributor Enedis promised that during long (more than two hours) power outages, it will be able to maintain power supply only to critical social facilities. Cellular carriers are not included.

Comrade Lenin also formulated that information and road communications are critical

at the cost of any losses to keep - telephone, telegraph, railway stations and bridges - in the first place!

[Storog dvornik]

Or so - called himself a nail, climb into the belly? ...

[gansales]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Vitalya, can I upset you a bit with the numbers?

Facts from Google and wiki? Ha ha ha .. Yes, I Aron already read your Israeli .. You are right everywhere and no one is afraid to argue with Israel .. Well, except for me! hehe

[Aaron Zawi]

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Quote: Aron Zaavi

Vitalya, can I upset you a bit with the numbers?

Facts from Google and wiki? Ha ha ha .. Yes, I Aron already read your Israeli .. You are right everywhere and no one is afraid to argue with Israel .. Well, except for me! hehe

Vitaly you are great.

[4ekist]

gansales
Near the fires and sing songs in chorus. Romance !!!!

Do not thicken the paint too much. They will have everything, lighting and communication too. Diesel generators will be used. With industrial enterprises and private business, of course, there is a problem. The Scandinavians will help.

[gansales]

Quote: 4ekist

Do not thicken the paint too much. They will have everything, lighting and communication too.

Of course there will be, who can argue ..

Quote: 4ekist

Diesel generators will be used.

Good thing and very ecological hehe

Quote: 4ekist

With industrial enterprises and private business, of course, there is a problem. The Scandinavians will help.

They will help, together with the Poles, to buy up Germany and drive it into a debt hole .. Wait!
Russia is not against the next historical humiliation of the Germans and the robbery of them and all of Europe by the fascist ..
And we have gas in the apartment! And hot water ..And also a grain harvest of 150 million tons And about a million heads of cattle graze in the meadows of natural Agroholdings, etc. And how many small
And mobilization began to protect ALL of this from the impudent Saxons, etc.
These are the things going on in mobilization points and field training centers in Russia!
Merkel von ex urged to listen to Russia and that Putin is not bluffing and it is better to listen to the Russians and obey otherwise BACH and Wagner

[militarist63]

Do not thicken the paint too much. They will have everything, lighting and communication too. Will use diesel generators

Actually, yes. Having many years of experience in the construction of cellular base stations, I can say that a normal topic that has long been practiced by some operators (but not by all) is to install a container with a diesel generator next to the base station container, which starts automatically when the industrial network fails ... Such the practice is most common at important remote stations (in the wilderness) and, as a rule, at all transmission base stations ... And so, if, according to the technical conditions, a diesel ... base station was not installed nearby, at all (without exception) stations a socket for connecting a diesel generator is provided outside. If anything, the technician serving the area ... brings it in the trunk ... and launches ...
By the way, regarding the battery, it is also very different ... The fact that, as they wrote in the article

Nokia and Ericsson declined to comment on the matter.

I won’t say about Erickson, because I only communicated with antennas, but I worked a lot and tightly with Nokia equipment. And it’s right that they kept silent - THEIR batteries (if only one group in the station) die in 40 minutes, a maximum of 60 minutes ...

[hohohol]

The United States bent Germany powerfully .. Oh Fritz, you did not obey the Russians.

Why only Germany, why offended the rest in vain? They are all there with cancer, and even those who are sensible.

[Taimen]

Yes, do not read such articles. This article is about nothing. They are bad, we are good. Not the first article of this kind. It would be better if they wrote about us so that there was no Durkovism, but the fifth column was opened in a family way. .Journalists are shaking for their places. Remember the joke from the USSR: - "Can a Soviet person scold the authorities in the USSR? The answer is, maybe even on Red Square and it's not censorship." censorship) you will receive".

[TIR]

Yes. From a small problem in such articles, trying to create the end of the world. The EU has a large margin of safety in the economy. The same financial fat allows you to get out of the crisis with minimal losses.

[Dali]

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The same financial fat allows you to get out of the crisis with minimal losses.

You can’t spread financial fat on bread ...

[TIR]

With food, this fat also helped. We bought out most of the free grain, feed and sunflower oil. So they have bread and fat to spread on this bread. The same is true for LNG. We bought gas at a higher price than from developing countries. Fortunately, LNG is traded at spot prices. So thanks to the financial cushion, they will survive the winter and not die of hunger. In the same Ukraine, since 2014, how many times has the collapse of the energy sector been predicted? That's right, every winter from the Maidan. And the EU will be richer than Ukraine. So rather than rejoice in other people's problems, it is better to deal with your own. Especially in SVO

[Illanatol]

And is there a lot of free grain, feed and other things left on the world market? Enough for all 600 million or how many snouts live there?
Gas at a higher price... but the price of energy carriers is included in the price of any final product. The cost price has grown, the profit and competitiveness of the goods has fallen. Will all businesses survive this?
The collapse of the energy sector in Ukraine did not happen due to a sharp decline in industrial production ... what does the Ukrainian industry produce there now, what goods can it boast of? Even with the release of very relevant military equipment - not so hot ... how many tanks and artillery systems were released in the last quarter, huh?
The EU, of course, is richer ... including debts. The investment attractiveness of the EU is falling, capital is fleeing to the US. It won't show up right away, but still...

[volodimer]

To print newspapers you need paper, and all of it will go to the priests. Well, radio, so this is again the same energy ...
Yes, and figs with them, they saw bitches themselves.

[militarist63]

Will read newspapers and listen to the radio

And carrier pigeons will be in trend!

[isv000]

Quote: opuonmed

yes, they scare with a specialist that the Europeans would go to the Russian Federation! they have the Russian Federation to blame for everything!

We are to blame for what they want to eat!

[Greg Miller]

People lived in the Stone Age... Europe has chosen its own path - haitization.... Haiti is the size of Europe? Well, let's chew - we'll see ... as one familiar cannibal says ...

[Chaikovsky]

Well, good luck to this Titanic. Favorable wind.

[HOURS]

There is already a commotion with the relocation of European factories to the territory of everything. Can I ask? Where will the products of these factories go? The same amers who will find jobs there? Something our media do not ask this question. As if together with the "Titanic" ...

[Dilettante grandfather]

Good news! I wonder if they already remember how to build mechanical telegraph towers?

[Ural_engineer]

You need to install uninterruptibles. At least the Chinese ones.

[gansales]

Quote: Ural_engineer

You need to install uninterruptibles. At least the Chinese ones.

Well, they will last 5-10 hours and everything will fall .. And diesel generators, this is also not for long

[tralflot1832]

Let the steamboats be laid up, ship diesel generators will be more powerful and more reliable. One ocean liner in Hamburg will easily pull cellular communications.

[dauria]

One ocean liner in Hamburg will easily pull cellular communications.

Pull, pull. And how do you power all the towers? At least nearby, in the same Hamburg? Tell everyone to turn off the lights and not use microwaves? Run your own cables? Not to mention the neighboring city - you can’t let electricity from the steamer through a power line of 330 kV. And even 35 square meters will not let you in. It's easier to stick a "ratchet" for 3 horses with a can of gasoline.
It's all just bullshit. They will not freeze and will not sit in the dark. There is no war - it means they will not die. Moreover, you can always start a car in extreme cases, plug in an "inverter" 12-220 (the generator will pull any 100 watts), charge all the junk.

[Alexander of Alexandria]

On bs 100w - this is only lighting

[16112014nk]

Somehow I don’t worry at all and I don’t sympathize with the Europeans.

[rocket757]

Europe has been too spoiled for uninterrupted energy supplies and stable energy supply over the past decades.

. They will paste over all available surfaces with solar panels, install storage banks of batteries and ... and all this is very expensive and not very reliable!
Moreover, it is not possible at all to replace some sectors of the energy sector with such methods.
Well, shozh, forward to a cheerful "green future" !!! All by yourself.

[Alf]

Quote: rocket757

Well, shozh, forward to a cheerful "green future" !!!

Here the foolish Swede will rejoice ...

[rocket757]

At the expense of the stupid, how to say it ... she licked the cream, and then she went into the mud.
But at the expense of knowledge, literacy, so take it from the half-educated ... there advisers and newsmakers worked tirelessly.
Big things, big money are spinning, the performers get only crumbs, but they probably have enough of that.

[Alf]

Quote: rocket757

performers get only crumbs, but they probably have enough.

Of course, when concluding a contract, they are immediately warned - take as much as they give, you will bend your fingers - we will instantly find another, there are a lot of people in Europe.

[rocket757]

Winter is coming ... green affairs, for a while, are pushed aside.
Here, with the onset of spring, it will all turn green, bloom in a lush color ... this is something that will not freeze out in winter.
At that, in order to restore a reasonable balance, more than one winter is needed ... and even then it’s not a fact that they will understand, they will take up their minds. There in the geirlpas, the green mold in the brains of many has sprouted thoroughly, forever.
Only freezing can help, but this is quite the edge, it is difficult to imagine such a thing.

[Turtle]

breed carrier pigeons. But seriously, the lack of the Internet will to some extent be able to ventilate the brains of the Europeans and make it more difficult for the NSA to spy on the Germans.

[gansales]

It turns out that the lack of cheap, and generally any, Russian gas can not only "freeze" Europe in the coming winter, but also leave EU residents without their usual telecommunications services.

I feel the underwater Internet cable will be blown up soon by satellites ..
We are living in interesting times right now guys! Mobilization in full swing..
God bless Russia!

Quote: 16112014nk

Somehow I don’t worry at all and I don’t sympathize with the Europeans.

And I'm even glad .. God forgive me! How much evil they brought to Russia and now everything is the same .. This is called a boomerang!

[Dali]

Quote from gansales

I feel the underwater Internet cable will be blown up soon by satellites ..

Satellites are the next stage in the development of events and not the most pleasant ... but now it would be just right to cut the underwater transatlantic cable into eleven pieces !!!

[gansales]

Quote: Dali

Quote from gansales

I feel the underwater Internet cable will be blown up soon by satellites ..

Satellites are the next stage in the development of events and not the most pleasant ... but now it would be just right to cut the underwater transatlantic cable into eleven pieces !!!

Well, this is already in extreme cases .. The collapse will be notable hehe!
After the gas pipeline was blown up by "it is not known by whom", even this, too, "Losharik" will gnaw through in different places ..

[taiga2018]

Yes, all these horror stories, at best, will come true by five percent. They will winter quite normally, well, maybe with little difficulty. This is about the same series when we were told for several months that the Ukrainian defense was about to collapse, and it collapsed, but not with them .

[Arsi55]

Yeah, - and everyone has already imagined how she will first freeze, and then, without communication, she will not be able to ask for gas))

[Andrea]

Life hack. I give!
Half a million diesel generators and it's in the bag.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Dali

And what are we waiting for, everyone will be interested. Tokma do not forget to indicate the sources of the numbers.

Will Europe freeze? There is a very specific political task - to form gas reserves at any cost, in a literal interpretation. As for gas reserves in Europe, the situation is quite optimistic. Now the reserves are over 95 billion cubic meters, which is only 10 billion cubic meters below the historical maximum.
Since June 2022, the average weekly filling rate of gas storage facilities has been 2.7 billion cubic meters, since August - 2.6 billion cubic meters, since September - 2.3 billion cubic meters.
There are 5 weeks left to fill, but rates tend to slow down in late autumn, so they can go to an all-time high or so, i.e. 104-105 billion cubic meters by the beginning of the heating season is real.
All this is happening against the backdrop of almost completely stopped gas exports from Russia. After undermining the Nord Stream, the export of Russian pipeline gas has practically no prospects, because the situation with the Ukrainian gas transmission system is very uncertain in the current circumstances.
As for the heating period and increased gas consumption, Europe takes from gas storage facilities an average of 50-70 billion cubic meters of gas (depending on supplies and cold weather) per season. This is relevant given the natural background supplies of Gazprom, which were in the “normal period”.
Now, to put it mildly, an anomalous period. Europe, including Gazprom, can supply 6.5-7 billion cubic meters a week from all sources, about 9 billion cubic meters are needed in winter, so that reserves are reduced as usual - by 60 billion per season.
Probably, this time gas supplies will be on average 2 billion below the norm, which in 20 weeks will form an additional deficit of 40 billion cubic meters. This is if you do not reduce consumption, but they are reducing it at a record pace.
Accordingly, taking into account the reduction in consumption and emergency measures, even with a relatively cold winter and the shutdown of Gazprom's pipeline, I predict gas reserves by spring of about 35 billion cubic meters, i.e. they should have enough. There are two reasons - record stocks and reduced consumption.
PS These calculations do not take into account the floating LNG terminal in the Netherlands, which was commissioned last week, the Polish-Norwegian gas pipeline, which is due to start operation on 30/9, and the two floating LNG terminals in Germany, which are due to start operating in early January.

As they say - called himself a loader, climb into the body !!!

[your1970]

You forgot one small but vulgar nuance - whoever pays the money then the girl and has dinner.
The surge in prices has already led to fewer consumers. And it may well be that by the spring there will be full storage of gas, because there will be no one to buy it.
And here it is not even clear what will be better for Europe - a lack or excess of gas ...

[cniza]

It can be assumed that this unpleasant news for Europeans is just the tip of the iceberg, which will grow more and more in the winter.

This can already be said...

[Vasyan1971]

Reuters reported that due to power outages, most cellular operators in the Old World may stop providing mobile communications and the Internet.

They may or may not stop. It is written with a pitchfork on the water. Of course, I would like the kirdyk to finally come to the snickering European culture treggers, but something is doubtful ... Europe has a margin of safety and a considerable one, I think. Let's take a look...

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

Already this winter, residents of Europe may be left without cellular communications and mobile Internet

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[matsur]

I don’t even feel like reading, it’s probably from the series “Europe will freeze”? They will not be left without communication and mobile Internet. Some regular fantasies in the hope that they will become so bad that they will regret it. Maybe it’s better to think about how to fight further than to indulge yourself with such illusions? How to carry out mobilization wisely, how to produce new equipment and repair the old one? There are so many things that you have time to plan, appoint and control.

[sifgame]

In general, EMR is not environmentally friendly and, according to all the canons, it must be abandoned, just as they refused harmful Russian gas, and then they will refuse oil and will walk, as horses produce CO2. But not long ago, about 7 months ago, the Europeans wanted to introduce a carbon tax, why don't we introduce it in relation to them. In general, it is necessary to modify and introduce a little. I can do the editing for free.