The enemy is preparing assault columns to take Torsky

On the Oskol Front, the enemy seeks to encircle a large grouping of Russian forces concentrated around Krasny Liman. To do this, he intends to carry out a cutting strike in a southeast direction along the Kolodezi-Torskoye line.

In the evening of the last day, patrols of the Armed Forces of Ukraine probed the defense of the Russian forces in the area, conducted reconnaissance in force and retreated. Today, according to reports from local residents, the enemy is lining up the detachments assembled in Clodesy in assault columns.

Torskoye is a logistics hub, a road junction from where our groups in Drobyshevo and Kr. are supplied. Liman. It turns out that the enemy from the north will go to Krasny Liman and try to take Torskoe

- explains the military commander Semyon Pegov.

According to him, the enemy is going to attack Torskoye from the south, from the forest surrounding Yampol.

These are the same ticks that Kr. Liman and Drobyshevo can get into. The situation is extremely difficult

- says Pegov about the threat of encirclement.

At the same time, Russian troops are ready to meet enemy forces, they are aware of the current situation and intend to give a worthy rebuff. Artillery provides active assistance in destroying the enemy.

Comments

[Invoce]

Wet the Ukronazis. Without pity ... then we'll figure it out and regret it

[Normal ok]

To do this, you need to have the strength, means, high-quality operational planning and ... morale. And, if all this is zero, then nothing will work with slogans alone ..

[Siberian 63]

and slogans are worthless. The main thing is to be louder, like "Red Cossack" .....

[Zaurbek]

I do not understand, there are no reserve troops? From the territory of the Russian Federation There the border is not far away and the railway line comes from the north

[bayard]

Quote: Zaurbek

I do not understand, there are no reserve troops?

It looks like it is. The time for mobilization and formation of the rear, reserve forces and means has been criminally missed. The enemy has accumulated enormous forces, they did not interfere with this, and considerable forces are fighting there from NATO under the guise of PMCs and "mercenaries". Poland mobilized and increased the strength of its army by 4 times ... While we were giving birth to "partial mobilization".
To bring the mobilized forces into at least some kind of readiness, a minimum of 2 (and preferably 3) months are needed. And the enemy decided not to wait - these 2 months are now like a window of opportunity for him. And he does not intend to miss these opportunities.
The "unbearable lightness of being" of the Kremlin towers could not bring anything else.

[Zaurbek]

Everything that is being done now had to be done before the 24th ..... For a quarter, at least .... I’m already silent, is there anything to put on and what to put the mobilizants on. I suspect that the experience will be passed on to them.

[bayard]

Quote: Zaurbek

I mean that experience will be passed on to them.

If the existing units, units and formations are replenished with the mobilizers of the first wave, then the experience will be transferred quickly. The problem is that the enemy mobilized long ago and dragged and fired his mobs in 7 months.
And the reserves of the army in peacetime, it seems, are already ... No wonder Kadyrov proposed putting under arms the security forces, who have the necessary conditions and rifle training.
But not only Ukraine was mobilized, but also Poland ... and a lot of Poles near Kharkov are fighting. And not only the Poles.

[Zaurbek]

https://youtu.be/n6roqf9aoyY. Так для просмотра

[bayard]

Thank you, I already looked at it a couple of days ago ... well, and again now half.
Such recommendations could be given by any competent officer with experience and a good education.
The trouble is that there are not many of those in the upper echelons of the Moscow Region.
So they will do what they do.
I just can’t imagine how the “knight of Malta” Shoigu will fight with NATO ...
Maybe that's why it's so wonderful?

[Osipov9391]

Of course, there is still a mobilization resource in Russia, but significant problems have already begun with the supply of those who were called up.
Our people from all over the Tver region are sitting at the recruiting station in Tver. For now, they just sit until the 10th, waiting for more and more collection from all areas.
And in the regions, their relatives and those who are not indifferent collect uniforms, underwear, copters, food rations and everything else - it will be a big strain with this.
And yes, in order for one mobilized to fight, 35-40 people need to work in civilian life.
Food, pharmacy, fuel, weapons, equipment, ammunition, uniforms, protective equipment, camouflage, transport and logistics, communications, intelligence support.
And these will inevitably lead to problems. And all that has been listed above must be protected from saboteurs.
Employees of the Russian Guard guarding fuel and energy facilities also began to receive summonses and are subject to mobilization. Only the elderly will remain, perhaps they will give consolidated police units for this.

Conclusion: the country is not ready. Not at all ready.

[bayard]

Quote: Osipov9391

Conclusion: the country is not ready. Not at all ready.

So a good shake-up is needed, since there are not enough of the former.
Down and Out trouble started . The Ministry of Defense has been shaken up (already started), a new regime for the implementation of the state defense order has already been introduced. For refusal or non-compliance - criminal liability.
It would be nice to remove Shoigu from the Moscow Region, exchanging for someone competent and sane.

[Zaurbek]

You are right, but the price of shaking up is the lives of specific military men ...... who did not mow down and made a career in other industries.

[NAF-NAF]

I, too, do not like this Knight of the Order of Malta with very strange jumps in a dizzying career. While purely intuitive ...

[Yapet100]

Shoigu cannot be removed - he enjoys complete trust, is betrayed.

[bayard]

Shoigu is loyal to the Order of Malta.
And the Order of Loyalty ... JEW.

[navigator777]

Quote: Zaurbek

I do not understand, there are no reserve troops? From the territory of the Russian Federation There the border is not far away and the railway line comes from the north

The guys on the front line are now paying for the mistakes of the regime, who are in the minority holding the defense there, there are no reserves, therefore, after mobilization, they grab everything in a row to somehow patch up the holes.

[Deep Diver]

Apparently not anymore. But don't forget, there are only 5500 irretrievable losses!

[NAF-NAF]

I'm afraid it's a TV number. A multiple underestimation of one's losses (and an exaggeration of the enemy's losses) is a normal practice for wars of all times and peoples. Not just us, but everyone.

[Deep Diver]

Totally agree with you! Alas, even here, many seriously believe Konashenkov and Shoigu

[Romario_Argo]

and that on Frunzenskaya embankment - they don’t see all this?
well, let the Armed Forces of Ukraine prepare columns - and ours will prepare FABs, KABs, OTRK, MLRS, etc.

[Foundling]

Not. On Frunzenskaya they scored on reality

[Romario_Argo]

but it doesn’t seem so to me - in our General Staff they see everything much wider
I think soon there will again be a pair of boilers for the 4th brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Liman
there we also dispose of the remains of wild geese

[Vitaly161]

yes, yes, we already saw the boilers near Balakleya, I didn’t like it at all, but who would know where the reserves were, he said

[Romario_Argo]

ВСРФ and without boilers does not digest APU badly
minimum -500 every day along the entire NWO line

[Vitaly161]

nah, when will success come? or will we leave the 20th army with BARS surrounded? But for now, everything is going to this

[Romario_Argo]

let's see what happens this week
maybe a plan to digest a group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kharkov - under the next referendum

[Vitaly161]

I see how, after regrouping near Balakleya, for the 3rd week they cannot stabilize the Oskol Front, which has already been broken through in several places, Liman generally rests only on the courage of the BARS and the 20th Army, where are the rest of the units withdrawn from under Izyum? 3 weeks have passed

[Romario_Argo]

good question - it feels like the AFRF of 1 million does not exist at all
probably the AFRF also closes internal questions on mobilization
the flow of volunteers is growing +

[azkolt]

Quote: Romario_Argo

let's see what happens this week
maybe a plan to digest a group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kharkov - under the next referendum

At first they crackled that on the 27th the counting of votes, on the 28th the State Duma would make a decision. 28th Federation Council. On the 30th, the President in his address to the FS. and now the meeting of the State Duma is being postponed until October 3! Am I the only one who thinks this is some kind of sabotage?

[Zaurbek]

There are managers in uniform who passed the exam .... God forbid, if they are graduates of a military school

[Siberian 63]

it's not funny at all. have already seen the boilers under Balakleya

[Romario_Argo]

scored on reality here - look how many minuses they threw us with you
direct artillery shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or Russophobes - partisans, oppositionists
why does VO not transfer data on these individuals to the FSB?
although, yes - all the same, all this data is stored for 5 years
and even at the end of the NWO, WHO will come

[VALERIK_097]

Roman, why are you actually excited, for the minuses received, the VO website is viewed by no means stupid people. You received a minus from me for the "working depth of the nuclear submarine." I won't explain why, there are a number of reasons. Don't be like Vitalik (Mikhan). You and You give advice to the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, and you connect the FSB to the search for "minus men", what kind of kindergarten.

[bayard]

Quote: Romario_Argo

uncle Vova said that we know everyone and we will get everyone - everywhere

It would be better if Uncle Vova took out those who have been shelling my Donetsk for 8,5 years. And then for 7 months of efforts, the NWO flies thicker and harder.
And what will you tell us if (Ahura Mazda forbid) a cauldron in the Red Estuary does happen?
And what will Uncle Vova say?
"I ask you to treat this with understanding"?
And why is your "big brother" not on the front line, but doing stupid things? So cozy?

[Romario_Argo]

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have not yet taken either Krasny Lyman or Torskoye
for that, the Armed Forces of Ukraine suffered losses in people and equipment
with technology it’s more difficult - there’s nowhere to take it

[Metallurg_2]

On Frunzenskaya every day a Kraken battalion is destroyed. It seems that there is not a battalion, but a division.

[RoTTor]

konashchenkovshchina = a session of mass hypnosis for the leadership of the Moscow Region, worse than Chumak and other swindlers

[Andy_nsk]

why offend Chumak with such comparisons?

[bayard]

Quote: Romario_Argo

and that on Frunzenskaya embankment - they don’t see all this?
well, let the Armed Forces of Ukraine prepare columns - and ours will prepare FABs, KABs, OTRK, MLRS, etc.

And so they get angry. Today, a lot has arrived in Donetsk, incl. during the counter-battery fight. And in the center...
Now I went outside to smoke, I saw the Iskander taking off by the light ... The enemy has a 4-5 times superiority in forces, and there is no shortage of artillery, tanks and other armored vehicles. And the explosion of SP-1 and SP-2 suggests that the conflict is moving into a completely new quality ... This is not to ride on the Devil's Wheel.

[Skipper]

if everyone sees and knows everything ... WHERE IS AVIATION and the hammering into the ground of all this accumulated evil spirits?

[spirit]

WHERE IS AVIATION

In the same place as the Air Force, it has remained in the past. Now we have the Serdyukovsie-Shoigovsky reformation of the Air Force with disgusting interaction and management recruited through negative selection. The air armies of the USSR, which would have smashed this valve in a couple of days, have sunk into oblivion ...

[Zaurbek]

And army aviation was previously subordinate to the ground forces

[Yarr_Arr]

Congratulations on the first day of registration on the site!

[Thorvlobnor IV]

Well, if a civilian combat pilot is paid more, then the answer is, as it were, obvious. Where is the salary of an engineer higher, at Boeing or the United Aircraft Corporation?

[opuonmed]

Yes, even missiles! they have air defense! so I also don’t understand why they don’t hit the accumulation of equipment and the echelons

[ammunition]

Quote: opuonmed

why they don’t hit on the accumulation of equipment

There are no accumulations of technology. And there are no columns.
Napoleon and Kutuzov do not build their troops on a disposition. And even (like Zhukov), they do not build troops at their original positions.
The battalion is dispersed before the attack. The battalion with a throw .. is going to the place of impact. Each vehicle (and each tank) is controlled by online communication .. And it is on skillful online control .. that the success or failure of the attack depends. IMHO, of course.

[Egoza]

Quote: Skipper

.WHERE IS AVIATION and driving into the ground of all this accumulated evil spirits?

But in Ukraine, schools for helicopter pilots are being opened and intensive training is going on all day! (((

[vik669]

When they put things in order on the ground, aviation was in the air - you understand such a squiggle!

[Normal ok]

Quote: Skipper

if everyone sees and knows everything ... WHERE IS AVIATION and the hammering into the ground of all this accumulated evil spirits?

Maybe it's time to face reality? None of the declared GDP on 24.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX. not reached. Moreover, the announcement of mobilization (such as partial)) speaks of serious losses of the regular army. So, leave the word "hammer" repeated like a mantra for those who do not understand anything about what is happening. And the essence is this: the tsar and the boyars were accustomed to brazenly rob the Russian people and decided to present a "victorious war" as "achievements". Yes, everything was stolen. And, in met with a worthy opponent. Now here are the stories about fairy tales.

[SKVichyakow]

We know what they cook, we know where they cook, but does this knowledge give us something? And why not cover them with preventive strikes? What are we waiting for?

[laws70]

Every night, after 22:XNUMX, trains arrive at the Likhachevo railway station located in Pervomaisky.

Part of the equipment is unloaded and sent towards Alekseevka and Balakleya. Other trains are sent further to Lozovaya. All this indicates the preparation of a powerful strike by the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the bridgehead on the right bank of the Oskol in the direction of Svatovo and the territory of the LPR.

The only way to at least temporarily stop the transfer is a massive strike on the station: the object is in the coverage area of ​​the OTRK and long-range MLRS.

In late August and early September, a large number of Telegram channels provided detailed information and objective evidence of the preparation of the Ukrainian offensive against Balakleya and Izyum. The price of inaction was the "regrouping" in the Kharkiv region.

We really hope that at least now the transfer through the busy station in Pervomaisky will not be ignored: the scenario may repeat itself.

@rybar

[SKVichyakow]

Quote from: laws70

We really hope that at least now the transfer through the busy station in Pervomaisky will not be ignored: the scenario may repeat itself

Well, if our inaction does not lead to bad results for us. Reinsurance is never superfluous, it will only save people's lives.

[Konnick]

We know what they cook, we know where they cook, but does this knowledge give us something? And why not cover them with preventive strikes? What are we waiting for?

This is from the words of Pegov, a lover of sensational messages. Do you think the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are so stupid that they collect all the troops in a bunch. This military commander wrote "in columns", so these "columns" from "detachments" are standing right in the fields, waiting for air strikes and artillery strikes. Filter this information.

[jovanni]

Quote: SKVichyakow

We know what they cook, we know where they cook, but does this knowledge give us something? And why not cover them with preventive strikes? What are we waiting for?

It turns out that there is nothing. Is that the General Staff marshal's cap. With gold trim...

[vik669]

What do you understand in naval humor!

[Wesker gorlovka]

I hope ours will not allow the surrender of the city.
The enemy threw everything that is the court, how many of them fell there.
They do not consider their losses at all.

[Uprun]

If the whole country is on its ears because of Liman, it may already be strategists walking through the forests - villages .... Faby-Maby .... what is .... If the media representatives are telling horror, then the command should see a real threat and take preventive measures .... must .....

[Pa3yM]

In the Second World War, in such situations, a counterattack was carried out (not on the forehead, of course). Reading the story, one gets the impression that it was the best thing you can think of. But, apparently, the reserves are not enough.

[g_ae]

The most interesting thing is that there is a possibility of another "regrouping". And the transport infrastructure is sacred and untouchable.

[Bomb]

The strongest army under the leadership of "outstanding" commanders in action.

[Cowbra]

Come on, RIA writes that 70 people have already lost near Liman. Stick in columns - even more will fall

[Bulgarian]

Military correspondents already got to disperse the panic

[Old ensign]

No matter how the MO again overslept the direction of the main attack. Estuary will fall is logical, but this city has a tactical, not a strategic value.

[coinsam]

On a good note, now we need to withdraw forces from Lyman. Without replenishment of ammunition it is impossible to hold out for a long time, the advantage of the enemy in manpower and equipment is overwhelming. Already, for three weeks, Liman has been defended quite heroically. But the forces for the deblockade - will not be found for sure. Supplying by air is also not an option. so it’s better to retreat, save the personnel, and render heavy weapons unusable - well, how Strelkov left Slavyansk

[Dmitry Karabanov]

Here in the southern direction they act somehow more efficiently (I wonder who is in command?) There, the "Andreevsky bridgehead" was bombarded with FABs, and "geraniums" regularly fly around Odessa. And here, on the Kr. Liman - the guys have been fighting heroically for more than one week. The same "geranium" would be perfect for destroying pontoon crossings. And carpet bombing by FABs and ODABs would be very useful in places where the enemy congregates - again at junction stations and at crossings. And speaking of the inviolable transport infrastructure - do we have Putin and Shoigu at all, or are they only intended for parades? But instead, we don’t even have Stalingrad - but the Brest Fortress! Maybe send R. Kadyrov to our General Staff so that the generals finally start to stir?
In general, one gets the impression of 1905 - and it’s okay if it doesn’t turn into 1941 (or even 1812) ...

[Vladimir61]

arranges the detachments assembled in Clodesy into assault columns

I do not understand! Are we just watching or what?

[Igor Korbut]

Do not underestimate the enemy, or we them or they us, the fate of Russia is being decided

[cokol-xnumx]

❗️ The situation in the Liman direction
as of 10.00 September 28, 2022

[Heaven]

If this map is true, then it is too late to withdraw troops. It is necessary to prepare deblocking blows

[Romario_Argo]

MTR, PMC, Airborne Forces - just for this they are needed
you don’t even need to land anywhere - the Armed Forces of Ukraine will do everything for us
so there was a line of 100 km and it became 2πR at 100 km and + another line of defense at 100 km along the LPR
it was 100 became 200 km - hemorrhoids for the APU squared

[tihon4uk]

How many more of our reservists must die near the Liman, so that the General Staff would finally tear their fat asses off their chairs and send help to them ?! Ours have been fighting back for a week, but there is no help. This is a formal betrayal of the generals, and then we wonder why they are fleeing from mobilization. Dying for the country is one thing, but dying because the top of the army is idiots is another.

[Vitaly161]

I don’t know your dill, Russian mobiles have not yet reached the front, now they are trying to introduce units that were formed before mobilization in the Russian Federation

[tihon4uk]

Read who the BARS are, and then say that I care about the Khokhlyat mobs. The men there fight to the death, but there is no help.

[Vitaly161]

so call a spade a spade, BARS are volunteers, not reservists and mobilized, volunteers are extremely motivated people for this and such resilience, but not BARS alone are fighting there, the 20th army also stands to death

[Khibiny Plastun]

Yours.... Why are there still bridges across the Dnieper? Or why else "generals from defeat" with epaulettes? Oh yes, Putin does not abandon his own, like Medvedchuk? And the soldiers who pay with their blood for their mistakes are strangers to him? As it is, "again 25" - 7 months of war, the enemy is preparing his reserves, and instead of reserves we have zilch. Instead of transferring 40 thousand. to seal the battle formations near Kharkov and to meet the enemy in prepared positions, they fought with plywood in the Far East. And now where to get the time to train recruits? Or will they be thrown into battle without preparation, just to shut up Putin's failures with their heads? Strelkov, how much they watered it here, back at the beginning of the SVO, he said that it was necessary to prepare reserves, but now where is the time to get it? And the bridges stand and the echelon goes along them. Strategies mediocre, chauffeurs and lamp wipers.

[kventinasd]

Not everything is so fun for us at the front. Until the foolish commanders begin to be punished as expected, everything will continue like this.
Here is what Alexander Khodakovsky writes:
The units formed even before the announcement of the mobilization come in - and their behavior resembles the behavior of an animal released into the wild, born and raised in a zoo. One company entered the settlement at a position next to us, settled down, laid out the BC in the correct geometric shape, put the equipment nearby - for convenience. Well, our officers arrived to link up, saw this picture and let's push everyone into the basement - they barely managed to cover everyone with artillery.
Today, from the same guard, a column decided to drive from point A to point B and locked themselves right on the enemy’s position - few people jumped out of the fire alive. Well what is it????? Lord army chiefs, what are you doing? We have been fighting for more than eight years, and in this operation from the first days, who is stopping you from coming and building interaction so that we show, teach, accompany, help? ....
Every time it's the same - we have open intentions, but they look at us from the height of generals' shoulder straps. Until you find sane officers downstairs, work will not get better. Maybe it's good to imitate strategists already? Already tired of raking after you ....

[Arkady007]

And where does he write this, you can take a look?
The idea is correct, only confirmation would be desirable.

[kventinasd]

And where does he write this, you can take a look?

Well, as it were, in their social networks, for example, in a cart.
https://t.me/aleksandr_skif

[Cowbra]

Quote: kventinasd

Already tired of raking after you ....

And this is a common situation. It’s only in the memoirs that all the Guderians are, and I remember that one friend spoke out, a career officer - “war is a continuous chain of mistakes and outright idiocy” ... And you can’t quickly pull up to the level of Khodakovsky - he was generally the head of the CSO of group A in the Donetsk region , understand the level. And now for 8 years without getting out of the trenches ... It is clear that the newly arrived did not stand next to him

[SIT]

Quote: Cowbra

Quote: kventinasd

Already tired of raking after you ....

And this is a common situation. It is only in the memoirs that all Guderians,

Well, the Wehrmacht, in a similar situation, worked as expected. In May 1942, everything that is happening now was already there and exactly in the same place, but only in a mirror image. It was with the same gut that the Bryansk, Southern and Southwestern fronts broke out into the operational space from Balakleya to the west in an attempt to encircle Kharkov. Then the 6th army of Paulus hit the base of this gut from Balakleya, and from Slavyansk and Kramatorsk the army group of Kleist. As a result, the boiler and our only irretrievable losses amounted to 300 thousand. This operation was not analyzed at the General Staff Academy? Have our generals heard of this? Well, maybe the women with the general's epaulettes didn't even hear Shoigu himself, but the rest of the dumbass what did they do at the academy !? Did you just drink vodka? NEVER passive defense led to victory. Where is the operational art of these current commanders? The gut of the Khokhlookers is a maximum of 20 km wide. The tank is half an hour away. If the battalions are dispersed so as not to fall under the blow of aviation and artillery and gather only at the moment of attack, then they do not have columns with combat guards, there is no possibility to turn around in battle formation in the right direction instantly. A strike from Liman and from the north along Oskol with the complete destruction of the crossings will immediately lead them to chaos and confusion, because. there will be fire on them from all sides. Where is all this!?

[Cowbra]

Quote: SIT

Well, the Wehrmacht, in a similar situation, worked as expected.

Yeah, I read the digitized archives of TsAMO. The same Guderian in the 41st drove almost foul language, for example, in one company 70% of the vehicles were stupidly smashed on the march of the battle bases, and not much less in all companies, the result is that the whole regiment is unfit for combat without fighting, it’s just that the carriers turned out to be long-eared animals (not elves)
Yes, the Germans generally underestimated the enemy strategically - once, the army was not completely ready for winter at all - two, and they got bogged down six months later - three, three strategic jambs, and already at the beginning of the war they lost it

[rocket757]

At the same time, Russian troops are ready to meet enemy forces, they are aware of the current situation and intend to give a worthy rebuff. Artillery provides active assistance in destroying the enemy.

. Like this!
Otherwise, couldn't it?

[cniza]

Good time!

Is it possible to discuss such issues on the forum, it is possible, but after ...

[rocket757]

Welcome
If you listen to "news from the fields", no one is in a hurry to correct some / many mistakes ... why ???
Many, here, do not even criticize, do not urge to sprinkle ashes and blood on the guilty, just fortunately, they do not crave ... one call, DO NOT MAKE THE PREVIOUS MISTAKE, DO NOT MAKE NEW MISTAKE!
Mistakes, in the war, are someone's lives, losses, how much in vain.
Tough topic, but how to get around it???

[cniza]

No, but there’s no reason to discuss plans here ...

[rocket757]

Ha, what is so new, unknown, you can express, reveal, sitting on the couch???
On the other side, the experienced guys sat down, intelligence works for them, specifically!
If they start parsing our fantasies, they'll go crazy, sure!
Here, such ideas say that I have hiccups / colic in my spleen, periodically.
And so ... well, it was, they warned me, and even then, not for information / secrets, but for a completely different reason ....
We were well taught not to talk too much. But all this was so long ago that pf-e, you can forget now.
And the information from Wiki, which the majority flaunts, is not interesting to anyone.

[cniza]

All the same, I’m not talking about plans in terms of those military ones, but about our shabko throws ...

[rocket757]

So urya - urya, throw hats, help with a saber, it has become much smaller.
The vast majority of people are having a hard time with what is happening right now.
There are not many who listened to those who said that it would be difficult and that NATO experts are preparing a tough surprise.
Nothing and this will pass, we will hear more, all sorts of different things.

[cniza]

We really got played. no more options. the enemy is stupid and this is the worst thing ...

[rocket757]

NATO is large, experienced specialists, resources, there are enough ... who and why had to make sure of this is not clear.

[Carlos Hall]

They don't pass!!! Block their way. Shoot them with everything you can get your hands on.

[Stinging Nettle]

Quote: Konnick

We know what they cook, we know where they cook, but does this knowledge give us something? And why not cover them with preventive strikes? What are we waiting for?

This is from the words of Pegov, a lover of sensational messages. Do you think the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are so stupid that they collect all the troops in a bunch. This military commander wrote "in columns", so these "columns" from "detachments" are standing right in the fields, waiting for air strikes and artillery strikes. Filter this information.

If it used to roll and now it rolls for the time being, then the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not stupid here.

[Arkady007]

Only VKS and UAVs can greatly help here.
And with that and with the other, we are not doing well. What then were preparing for the last 8 years in Syria is not entirely clear.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Arkady007

What then were preparing for the last 8 years in Syria is not entirely clear.

We relaxed and decided that in Ukraine everything would go according to plan. But it was not there. If Western sponsors in Syria, the barmaley, helped Ukraine as they do now, we would have no less problems there.

[Arkady007]

And there were constant problems with the impact on the barmaley detachments. And everyone knew about it at the bottom. It didn't seem to reach the top.
When they discovered the barmaley, they called the planes, while they flew, the barmaley was no longer there. And it wasn't like that for a year. And all the pilots talked about this, reporting on the drop into nowhere. And when ours flew away, they again climbed out of the cracks. All the same we have now.

[Dikson]

.. and it looks like there will be a third call now .. (c) whoever remembers will understand ..... We are preparing another planned departure, right? With ostentatious landing in front of TV cameras and reports with glassy eyes .. Regrouping No. 2 .. Not before the war now, you need to call plumbing - pipes burst there ..

[anjey]

Our command staff and privates, including the same experience of Chechnya, Syria, Libya, the Central African Republic, and the Ukrainians, a small contingent in Iraq, under the command of the Yankees and for 8 years, stupidly from the positions of nightmare civilians of Donbass, but from the boilers, they barely climbed out, and then thanks to the "Minsk divorces", the training grounds near Yavor are not where our creative talents from the database are, it is clear that NATO planners sit and rule at the headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, knock them out and burn them like bacon in a pan, and Western military thought can never surpass Russian, as spoke A.V. Suvorov-

Russian Prussians have always been beaten

We hope for you Warriors of Russia!

[Markovic]

Gerasimov something to do with it? Our supreme leader is responsible for everything, who, as usual, says one thing and does another.

[cniza]

Artillery provides active assistance in destroying the enemy.

What about aviation? what a strange feeling about this situation ...

[Shamil88]

And how to go to war? Knowing that such people will command? Khodakovsky's latest telegram entry
A. Khodakovsky:
The units formed even before the announcement of the mobilization come in - and their behavior resembles the behavior of an animal released into the wild, born and raised in a zoo. One company entered the settlement at a position next to us, settled down, laid out the BC in the correct geometric shape, put the equipment nearby - for convenience. Well, our officers arrived to link up, saw this picture and let's push everyone into the basement - they barely managed to cover everyone with artillery.

Today, from the same guard, a column decided to drive from point A to point B and locked themselves right on the enemy’s position - few people jumped out of the fire. Well what is it????? Lord army chiefs, what are you doing? We have been fighting for more than eight years, and in this operation from the first days, who is stopping you from coming and building interaction so that we show, teach, accompany, help? ....
Every time the same thing - we are open-minded, and they look at us from the height of generals' shoulder straps. Until you find sane officers downstairs, work will not get better. Maybe it's good to imitate strategists already? Already tired of raking after you ....

[Foundling]

Like it or not, but "partial mobilization" indicates at least the exhaustion of the current capabilities of the army. Therefore, I propose to return to reality.

[Adagka]

as practice has shown, there were no generals in the army (with a few exceptions), only managers in uniform and adherents of network-centric wars. although here it is no longer even unsuitable, but looks like outright betrayal. they waited until the raguli were mobilized, pumped up with equipment, began to blow up gas pipelines (by the way, they went for the second day already, in the Kremlin, out of habit, they hid in the bushes, they couldn’t mumble anything at all about the explosions of gas pipelines) .... now they ran in with burning gas.

[1122]

And where is the overwhelming power of the RF Armed Forces? Why does senior management allow for the possibility of another such a major defeat?

[tarakan]

What has mobility come to?
The strategy is written by "sofa experts" they only write while standing in line at the Russian-Georgian border

[cmax]

It seems that the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff are in a deep coma, that they simply did not pass the discipline at the academy ...... how to fight in a real war, in order for the enemy to not be able to attack, you need to bomb him in his positions before the start of the offensive, bomb roads and bridges over which he moves troops, and so on and so forth. Month after month passes, NVO, listening to the storyteller on TV (who destroys hundreds, thousands of enemies, dozens of headquarters and armored vehicles of the enemy every day), it seemed, well, now something will happen that will tip the scales in our direction, troops they will go forward, the Nazis will flee and surrender, and all expectations were not in vain. Reality, however, returns back to Earth, there is no miracle yet, and with such a course of hostilities as it is now, one can not wait for it. Trouble though!!!

[cmax]

Wanted to add a little more "tar". Recently, GDP complained on TV that they had deceived Russia in a grain deal, that they were not allowed to export our grain and fertilizers. To whom is he complaining? Lavrov flew to the UN session without almost all of his assistants, they did not give him a visa. Complained. 3 pipes of the gas pipeline were blown up, the projected loss was up to $ 2 billion, 3 days have passed, there is a reaction from journalists, several deputies said something, but there is no reaction from the Russian state. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is silent, Putin is silent, the Ministry of Defense is silent. Well, who will respect us, we are probably some kind of patience. Our everything is the streamlined thoughts of Mr. Peskov, in which, with all the desire, one cannot see firmness, one bleating. If not for the atomic baton, the world probably would not have paid any attention to us at all. Yes, now it is not clear whether our missiles will fly at the right time or how it can be seen from the experience of the NMD that all rearmament was mainly on paper and in the reports of officials.

[1122]

Here, while we are writing these comments, we received a message about the retreat of the Russian troops from Kupyansk. This brings Liman's surroundings even closer. It is only not clear if this settlement is considered an important strategic one along with Liman and therefore, in the face of a real threat of their fall, why not concentrate forces in this direction in order to crush the enemy, and not spray bombs, rockets, shells everywhere as it is reported every day? And if in the same way and at the same pace, then the threats of the Ukrainian command to take the city of Donetsk do not seem to be just a bluff.

[Sasha from Uralmash]

All news about the offensive is announced in the media! Well, how else!

[Petr_Koldunov]

This "extremely difficult situation" is not at all sudden! It has, in fact, been such for two weeks now ... so I hope that the General Staff is also aware of the situation, and for its part is also accumulating operational reserves to successfully repel the Nazi attacks?

[azkolt]

Quote: Vitaliy161

I see how, after regrouping near Balakleya, for the 3rd week they cannot stabilize the Oskol Front, which has already been broken through in several places, Liman generally rests only on the courage of the BARS and the 20th Army, where are the rest of the units withdrawn from under Izyum? 3 weeks have passed

Where is the 3rd Army Corps? And, probably, according to our tradition, it is waiting for an offensive in another place!))))

[Mikhail Ya2]

In my opinion, the Ministry of Defense did the worst thing, prepared a strike force, and then sprayed it along the entire front line, where the entire corps dissolved

[azkolt]

Quote: Michael Ya2

In my opinion, the Ministry of Defense did the worst thing, prepared a strike force, and then sprayed it along the entire front line, where the entire corps dissolved

I wonder where? And from the Kherson direction, and from the Donetsk and from the Limansky, the same connections are in the reports! At least they are rotated interestingly there. One of my distant relatives has a son-in-law serving in the Airborne Forces and from February to June (I don’t know further) he was in the war all the time.

[16112014nk]

Quote: Foundling

On Frunzenskaya they scored on reality

It seems that Napoleon said: An army of rams led by a lion will always triumph over an army of lions led by a ram.
Does our MO pull on a lion? Question.

[Viktor Sergeev]

And we are watching and waiting to be surrounded. I propose to send the Tu22M3 to the scrap, why do we need them? They stand at the airfields, the funds for maintenance are huge, and at this time the dill is killing our guys, calmly concentrating forces for strikes.

[musorg]

Just read that the counter-offensive on Liman failed?

[Siberian 63]

I don’t understand that we have only drill in military schools, there are no analysts at all? Complete mediocrity in tactics and strategy, and the heroic defense of the soldiers. It’s strange, loss, loss, or as someone said in Russia, women give birth to a lot ............, no, even 2 children already, and even then not often. What is happening then? Only show-offs.....

[k.ant]

They’ll delete it anyway, but I’ll write it. This is not a war, it doesn’t even look like a war. Although, perhaps, they haven’t started yet. They probably want to take all of NATO into the cauldron, but it’s too early to talk about this, in which case everything is going according to plan. It’s going a game of luring the enemy into a trap with the subsequent destruction of nuclear weapons. This is the only way to justify the current fuss in Ukraine. But if this is not a plan, then it is better not to start and not to continue. April 2014 was the most favorable for the start of the operation, which could be completed in one and a half months. Suvorov did not teach how to fight!

[Amper]

And there are no military people there, there are managers for the development of the military budget and, I must say, successful managers! Planning and analysis is for the smart and educated; for managers, the main thing is profit! The 14th year is gone forever, followed by a time of suffering and blood, as payment for indifference and political stupidity, cowardice and lack of will. Everyone will pay (already pay).

[Is2]

Where is our army? After all, Russia is power