Cry about him while he is...in Kazakhstan?

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Cry about him while he is...in Kazakhstan?

Today, all social networks are full of materials about those who ran away from the country with wet pants.

Almost a hundred thousand rushed to hospitable Kazakhstan, almost fifty dollars - to no less hospitable Georgia. Plus planes to different countries. They say that in the Far East some flee to Mongolia, some to China. Each region has its own choice.




You know, with some kind of "deep satisfaction" I read the news about how prices in Georgia and Kazakhstan rushed up.

That's right, here I am with the Kazakhs, that I agree with the Georgians. Hospitality is from the word "to receive guests", right? Are these guests? No, they are runaways. And those who ran away from the war, but not like the inhabitants of Ukraine and THAT Ukraine, but just like cowards. Yes, they don’t read “Ax” (that’s our short name on the Web) and they don’t give a damn about all my words. While there is money that the Kazakhs will not take away for their hospitality (sarcasm).

The Ministry of Defense stated that it would not chase and pursue them.

In general, to be honest, it makes sense. Why is there such human dirt, if there are enough of our own, normal people? Moreover, ready to voluntarily go and fight?


Then it became a shame for real men.

Is Russian society to blame for what is happening, so quickly stratified into two parts, one of which rushed out of the country?

Yes, partially. But the fault of the state in this is no less.

We have already talked so much about the completely toothless and impotent policy of the state in terms of ideology, that once again we don’t want to start a hurdy-gurdy. The result is here, at the border checkpoint.


Thirty years of Russian reality within the framework of very strange rules for the formation of a society that is maximally stupid and obedient and minimally spiritually educated - and here is the result.

Moreover, not only at the checkpoint, the scandal with the student "elite" of the Faculty of Journalism of Moscow State University showed a lot, but I personally will definitely return to this. This is a diagnosis, moreover, indicative of surgery.

For thirty years of Russian “independence”, at least three generations have grown up who believe that they do not owe anything to anyone. And they have realizable rights and freedoms, as opposed to duties. Kind of like the Constitution.

However, although the Constitution says that “a person, his rights and freedoms are the highest value”, there is also the fact that it is the Person and the Citizen who are obliged to protect all this.

But in the minds of many today, it is somewhat different, inspired by that same Western democracy: "I pay taxes, and you spread out in front of me." And absolutely do not care what is happening around. Well, if the beginning of the SVO itself did not shake people's brains, then what can we say about how many people did not even pay attention to the eight years of Donbass hell. I said more than once that the farther from the border, the more I didn’t give a damn about everything that happened behind the ribbon.

Now behold, the war is here, and this is a fact. And our near future will pass precisely along the border "before the war" to "after the war." And yes, it is necessary to live according to the laws of war.

Moreover, everyone will have to live according to these laws: both those who are in line at the military registration and enlistment office, and those who are in line at the border. And if we call the first patriots, then the name of the second is deserters and traitors.

Yes, they are worthy of negativity towards themselves by the state in accordance with the law and the concepts of honor and conscience, but it was the state that brought them up like that. More precisely, he did everything to make it so.

In general, it turns out again the nonsense “a la russe”: someone “left the hut, went to war”, and someone took up “tourism”. And then he will come and will slowly (or maybe out loud) laugh at those who were sitting in the trenches and combing the ruins. All these businessmen, IT people and other human scum.

And most importantly - how much money will they pay for it?

So I read that an apartment in Kazakhstan now costs 800-1000 dollars a month. 100 fugitives, some with families. Well, 000 thousand will pay $ 30 each, because you also need to eat.

Stunned? And I. Because it's $30. This is 000 rubles. One and a half billion. This, by the way, is one Su-000 aircraft. Per month.

That is, as long as people in our country collect pennies to buy everything they need for the army and the militias, these cowards will live there one bomber a month.

No, it won't work like that. Sorry, it's ugly to go into someone else's pocket, but spending money like that is ... imprudent. And this can and should be viewed as an economic crime against Russia.

After all, this money will go to the benefit of countries that are far from being the most pleasant for us. Russophobia in Georgia, yes, is slowly weakening, but in Kazakhstan, on the contrary, it has just taken off. And why should they be supported at all?

By the way, what the Kazakhs will arrange for these fugitives - knowing these people from the inside, I rub my hands in advance. Because the fugitives will naturally wipe their feet. And God forbid that the legs, otherwise they may wipe their hooves. Or whatever the camels have.

But for such an amount of money thrown into the economy of other countries, it is necessary to punish.

And here there is a good idea: let them pay in full for their “vacation”. No, those who have left for good can (but not necessarily) simply be deprived of their citizenship and let them sob emigrant tears in the style of Gulko or Shufutinsky. "True patriots" who simply don't care about politics, as many say on camera. Hiding eyes from the question "Whose Crimea" and so on.

But whoever decides to return after serving time - that's the one to plow in full.

And send to buy. There is money for a comfortable life in Kazakhstan - be kind, a couple of thermal imagers or drones pay. Or to Orenburg to Comrade Kuznetsov and buy first-aid kits for the company. Or…

In short, there options - through the roof. There would be someone to involve in such operations, but I think that sooner or later we will pull back. Kazakh, you know, this is such an original phenomenon on the world stage... If he wants, he will bring a Jew to bankruptcy, although rather to a heart attack. Very specific people. I do not want to say that it is bad, but harmful. While this is useful in our case, the fugitives there will quickly howl.

So back only through the cash desk of voluntary assistance. No money, spent everything on a “vacation”? Well, here, I'm sure our banks will help.

Indeed, the value of these people in terms of combat is not even zero - it is negative. Would you like such amoebas to gurgle with you in the same trench? I'm sure not. So the country does not really need them. Yes, they work for themselves. As long as it was comfortable. And how it became uncomfortable - here you have traffic jams at the borders and at airports.

You have to say goodbye and forgive. Forgive them for their cowardice and weakness, wipe away their tears and give a friendly kick to the place that shakes the most. And send them to Kazakhstan for re-education.

In general, it will be funny: instilling love for Russia at your own expense among the Kazakhs. I won’t wish it to anyone, because the Kazakhs even have such patriotism… strange. There are not cockroaches in the head, but small scorpions rustle. And so the Kazakhs perfectly bring up love for Russia at the expense of the educated.

There is no point in condemning and pitying those who escaped. These are the people of their time. They were brought up like that, and it is unlikely that they will be able to somehow re-educate them, as well as improve Russian society by depriving the runners of citizenship.

It makes sense to regret, as terminally ill people often regret and ... to make money on their cowardice in full.

Although you can not regret it. They are still third-class people now, and not by chance, but by choice. And in Kazakhstan, and in Georgia, and in Russia.
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  1. +21
    30 September 2022 04: 41
    Indeed, the value of these people in terms of combat is not even zero - it is negative

    ***
    Can't you see, cloud
    Much better without you
    Fly away, fly away...

    (Dedicated to all those who "left", including the performer)
    ***
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    2. +10
      30 September 2022 08: 22
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      Can't you see, cloud

      Instead of "cloud" it would be more correct to write "heap"
    3. +16
      30 September 2022 08: 31
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      Can't you see, cloud

      All the provocativeness of the topic raised is in turning over the meanings of the events taking place. For the whole world, and in Russia itself, it is Russia "AGGRESSOR". It was possible to keep a sufficient number of rapid reaction forces to support the LDNR in case of aggression. The air defense of the Russian Federation could, without crossing the border, make the sky over the LDNR flightless. But what did the whole world see? I do not know to what level of power the foreign agents of the West are sitting, but the invasion was done, in compromising Russia, by 150%. All subsequent events only confirm this. Including the "regrouping" in the Kharkiv region.
      The main difference of the Russian people is a deeply integrated sense of justice. In today's events, it is broken. No one talks about "disregard for the troubles of Donbass", but since the invasion was made, he speaks of a superbly done operation to bring down Russia's peaceful reputation. And this is the main reason for leaving, very many. It is the unwillingness to participate in the global scam of the destruction of Russia, by the thieves' pahanat. There would be no such outflow of the people of Russia if the events began with the invasion of the NATO-led Ukrobandoty in the LDNR. And it would be perceived as a holy war. And there would be no flows abroad, but there would be queues at the military registration and enlistment offices.
      ps You are aware that if Stalin had started a preventive war against Germany, there was an agreement in the West that the United States, England, etc. Would you have sided with Hitler? This happened to Saddam Hussein, this is happening to Russia now.
      1. +7
        30 September 2022 09: 06
        Quote: skeptic
        In today's events, it is broken.

        You're not right. Ordinary people are absolutely convinced of the justice of what is happening. The contingent of the type of those who fled (living fat to the SVO), yes, they are sharply opposed, but only because of the impossibility of living as they lived, explaining this type of aggression. The war would have started anyway, only on unfavorable terms for Russia. The no-fly zone over the Lao PDR pulled us into the same databases as the NWO. In the current version, our "elite" for some reason had confidence in the floral version (well, they would meet with flowers). It’s worth dealing with this, but in the other there were so many mistakes before the war simply became inevitable. To my deep regret. Well, now we are simply left with no choice, either victory or genocide according to the Serbian version, and even worse. But there is also understanding in this, therefore, in the vast majority of people, although they are not enthusiastic about all this, they treat with understanding the inevitability of protecting their country.
        1. -4
          30 September 2022 09: 24
          Quote: qqqq
          The war would have started anyway, only on conditions unfavorable for Russia

          What could not be more profitable than the fact that my homeland is called the country - "Aggressor"? You can throw "words on the fan" as much as you like, but what happened cannot be changed. You can talk as much as you like, "interpreting" the invasion of Kyiv, but it cannot be called except as a set-up for Russia. Pity the boys, pity the civilian population of Bucha. Only the enemy could conceive such a scam. I don't believe in idiots. Neither in the General Staff, nor in the Kremlin.
          1. +7
            30 September 2022 10: 05
            Quote: skeptic
            set-ups for Russia - it cannot be called

            Yes, this is a set-up, and then what? Say sorry and let's go? There is no turning back, no matter how much we all would like to. Whether someone likes it or not, we are all in the same boat, and if we don’t swim out, then everyone will also rip us off and no one will look at whether it was for or against. And history is written by the winner, we will endure - there will be a NWO, they will destroy us, then aggression.
          2. +7
            30 September 2022 15: 17
            So
            or not, now that's something, how it happened and it happened. But this is not a reason to sprinkle your head and justify those who "escape". They would run anyway. In any case. And Russia is a priori an aggressor in the eyes of "enlightened" Europe. In any case.
          3. +1
            1 October 2022 11: 53
            Just don't cry. But for some reason, when the United States, under a fictitious pretext, gouged Iraq, no one called it an aggressor. And there, by the way, 100 civilians died with the total loss of the Iraqi army of 17 people. The countries that bombed Yugoslavia and Libya were not called the aggressor. But now they are trying to convict Russia of the fact that it was she who blew up the gas pipelines.
        2. -7
          30 September 2022 09: 36
          People are fleeing because they are not interested in giving their lives for the seizure of foreign land. I am 200% sure that many of them would not have fled if the territory of the Russian Federation had to be defended. And so everything is according to Remarque, whoever reads will understand, whoever has not read understands little in life.
          1. +1
            30 September 2022 09: 57
            """".....People are running because they are not interested in giving their lives for the seizure of foreign land...."".
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            Alien land?! Did you accidentally mix up the coasts? Who, where and when decided that allegedly Donbass is a foreign land for Russia??? Lenin? So about the Bolshevik gifts to Ukraine from Russia - Putin has already spoken precisely and aptly .... Who, where and when decided that Crimea is Ukraine ??? Khrushchev himself decided in 1953??? Grossly mistaken ... Who, where and when decided that the ancient Armenian Artsakh (Karabakh) should belong to Azerbaijan ??? Stalin himself decided in 1921 ... He was also mistaken ...
            1. +10
              30 September 2022 10: 02
              Who, where and when decided that allegedly Donbass is a foreign land for Russia


              The number of volunteers for seven months perfectly shows the attitude towards the Donbass. Well, let's be honest, how much money did you or your friends give every month over these eight years to help Donbass?
              1. +8
                30 September 2022 21: 34
                Volunteers are one thing. Specific people. I'll tell you at one time I fought. And I thought I wouldn't have to. I really didn’t want to, it’s extremely unpleasant. At least because it's hard work. Heavy to carry, dig constantly, nothing to eat. Condensed milk delicacy.
                But now I received a summons and, finally, I put a sorcerer, and I consider this war to be fair. Why? I explain.
                1. At one time I worked in an office called DuPont and went to hohland, to Poltava, where they have a seed factory (they are now being transported by steamboats through Odessa, and no wheat for the starving). And I was amazed that back in 2012 everyone there spoke Russian but hated Russia and Russians. We then fought and got tired of it, and they wrote diplomas in universities how to fight with Russia and how to kill all the Muscovites. It seemed to them that they would defeat us. They really wanted to fight. I told them that there was nothing good in this, I don’t care, they really wanted to fight against the Russians.
                2. None of us needed this war. Neither their territories nor people are needed. Here in the Leningrad region, all this hohland didn’t poop for me. All they wanted was NEUTRALITY. Join the EU, do whatever you want in the economy, the main thing is that there are no enemy troops there. But no, their ambition demanded war.
                3. That's why I'm going to the army. So that there will be no wars. To kill these warlike freaks. I don't want their lands, I'm just going to kill freaks. Everyone. Both females and cubs. Hohlyatsky vyblyaedkov. So that my son has a peaceful life and there are no warlike freaks on the borders
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              +14
              30 September 2022 10: 05
              You should first study the question of why Lenin did all this. And he did it because it was necessary to urgently collect a country that was falling apart. And because of the mistakes and actions of the kings. And in the end, they got a country in which it was all the same whose Crimea. But effective managers came from the opportunists and ruined the country.
            3. +4
              30 September 2022 10: 12
              There was no referendum in Russia on the recognition of Donbass. In the Belovezhskaya Accords, Russia undertook to recognize the integrity of Ukraine.
              1. -2
                30 September 2022 10: 41
                I don't remember well, but it seems that when nuclear weapons were squeezed out of Ukraine, Russia seemed to have pledged to be the guarantor of Ukraine's security.
                On the other hand, that Ukraine, not at all the current one.
                1. +2
                  30 September 2022 11: 07
                  Here the question is in the perception within Russia. According to this principle, you can generally send anywhere - first we introduce troops, in the territories that we managed to occupy, we announce a referendum on which, of course, 97% are in favor of joining, and now we are sending new mobilized to defend the new "Motherland". Now, in this way, the Zaporozhye region was annexed without Zaporozhye itself, this is actually really a krinzh. Below, in the comments, they already threw a video with the Kazakhs-"Nazis", in this way Asia will have to be "liberated" further. In the current realities, the state is ready to sacrifice the lives of current citizens in search of new citizens.
                  1. 0
                    30 September 2022 23: 47
                    I don’t mind your words, but, in passing, a remark ...-: how much liberal ... it seems that who is really a patriot of the Motherland is already where it is needed, and here are the fragments ...
                2. +3
                  30 September 2022 17: 29
                  Ukraine was related to the Soviet nuclear weapons only as a place for its deployment, like Kazakhstan and Belarus. The design and construction of Soviet nuclear weapons and tactical nuclear weapons, as well as their production, as well as fissile materials (uranium and plutonium), were located in Russia. Therefore, in the eyes of the Americans, who did the most to eliminate the Ukrainian nuclear weapons, Ukraine looked like a monkey with a grenade. Under the Gor-Chernomyrdin agreement, nuclear weapons exported to Russia were dismantled and weapons-grade uranium was processed into fuel for US nuclear power plants. And somehow it so happened that energy uranium from Russia took a respectable place in the United States, slowing down the development of the US nuclear industry.
              2. +7
                30 September 2022 15: 01
                Quote: Dmitry Rigov
                In the Belovezhskaya Accords, Russia undertook to recognize the integrity of Ukraine.


                they ended for Ukraine exactly after the coup d'état there in 2014. So Russia owes nothing to Ukraine.
                As for the Budapest memorandum, it would have legal force if it was ratified by the parliaments of Russia, the United States and Ukraine itself. Neither Russia nor the United States, nor even Ukraine itself, ratified it.
              3. +7
                30 September 2022 19: 43
                In the current situation, the agreements ceased to operate. NATO is expanding, NATO is an aggressor, not a defensive bloc. NATO countries are running out of resources. We have resources. They made anti-Russia out of Ukraine with the aim of sending them to slaughter in the first echelon, along with the Balts and Poles. We struck first before Ukraine joined NATO. And all this snot about justice and treaties, about the internal rejection of an unfair war as an excuse for escaping from conscription - this is an excuse for cowardice. If they do not understand the layouts - idiots, they understand, but they run - cowards. And yes, I’m a staff member and I’ll go there, so that it doesn’t happen later .....
            4. -4
              30 September 2022 11: 41
              Quote from Romanovski
              Alien land?! Did you accidentally mix up the coasts? Who, where and when decided that allegedly Donbass is a foreign land for Russia??? Lenin? So about the Bolshevik gifts to Ukraine from Russia - Putin has already spoken precisely and aptly .... Who, where and when decided that Crimea is Ukraine ??? Khrushchev himself decided in 1953??? Grossly mistaken ... Who, where and when decided that the ancient Armenian Artsakh (Karabakh) should belong to Azerbaijan ??? Stalin himself decided in 1921 ... He was also mistaken ...

              I see you have a very limited view of historical processes. Why did you decide that the borders are forever. But no, one day all states will disappear.
              1. +1
                30 September 2022 12: 38
                """.... I see your view of historical processes is extremely limited. Why did you decide that borders are forever. But no, one day all states will disappear...."".
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                And why immediately on "YOU" ?? It seems that I didn’t drink with you on brotherhood .... Or someone with tact and culture - - strained, then automatically his view of history is strongly UNLIMITED ??? And where did you get the idea that supposedly one day all states will disappear??? Yes, the American financial and new digital elite are clearly dreaming of this in order to create their own new wonderful World (that is, a slave-owning world ...) under the guise. But dreaming is not harmful ... Hitler (i.e. - Emil, according to memoirs of the chief of military intelligence of the Wehrmacht V.KANARIS ...) - he also dreamed so much that he dreamed that part of his jaw and skull were in the safe of the NKVD / MGB / KGB .....
                1. -3
                  30 September 2022 13: 17
                  Quote from Romanovski
                  And why immediately on "YOU" ?? It seems that I didn’t drink with you on brotherhood .... Or someone with tact and culture -

                  But in essence? Or there is nothing to answer the essence of the question - did you decide to get to the bottom of "commas"?))
                  Quote from Romanovski
                  And where did you get the idea that supposedly one day all states will disappear??? Yes, the American financial and new digital elite are clearly dreaming of this in order to create their new wonderful World on the sly.

                  Umm... I understand that the story is mostly false, but still, something from what goes on in the school took place...
                  The Roman Empire and others in the ancient world is if you dig deep. Until the 20th century, there were no many countries in Europe - they can SUDDENLY be formed. Also, there were not many countries at the end of the 20th century, but suddenly they were formed. Why? Lost lands suddenly found in Europe?))) No? Again, SUDDENLY, for YOU))) they were formed from fragments of disintegrated countries. And yes, globalization is like that - in a competitive or not very competitive struggle, the strongest survive and crush everyone else. So in the end (unless, of course, before that everyone kills each other with nuclear batons), there will be one state or there will be some kind of "planetary government", and the countries will be just administrative units. Well, you don’t have to be Wang to understand that it will be either China, or, again, China in association with India or the "Asian conglomeration" led by China. It will either be so, or - see above about the nuclear baton.
                  1. +1
                    30 September 2022 17: 35
                    "" .... So in the end (unless, of course, before that everyone kills each other with nuclear batons) there will be one state or there will be some kind of "planetary government", and the countries will be just administrative units...."".
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                    A United Planetary Government Is Inevitable?! Absolutely disagree with you. You can not even doubt that the ultimate goal of such a government will be a new slavery with the help of digital (Network, Meta .... crypto ...) and new non-fiat money. It is this NEW totalitarian government of the WORLD SCALE (=SUPER-DICTATATURE...=new fascism) that is the true goal of the collective West, i.e. - if you call a spade a spade - WORLD DOMINATION .... But, in the West, Lenin's words were "forgotten" that any monopoly (and in geopolitics too ...) leads to DECAY and, consequently, to a catastrophe on a global scale .. .Russia, China, India, Iran, the Arab world, part of the Asia-Pacific countries - they understood this very well and strongly oppose the creation of a UNI-POLAR world order, and the West decided to go bankrupt and punish Russia FIRST, then China and further down the list .... But, I I am more than sure that the aggressive and perverted West will sooner or later fall into the hole that it is diligently digging for Russia and China ....
                    1. +1
                      30 September 2022 19: 47
                      Quote from Romanovski
                      A United Planetary Government Is Inevitable?! Absolutely disagree with you. You can not even doubt that the ultimate goal of such a government will be a new slavery with the help of numbers.

                      Well, they openly declare it))))
                      Quote from Romanovski
                      But, in the West, they "forgot" Lenin's words that any monopoly (and in geopolitics too ...) leads to DECAY and, consequently, to a catastrophe on a global scale ...

                      The problem is that we see one thing, but do not see the whole picture. Decay those who were chosen for this role))) The same Europe. It was made from an ally into a donor, then a vassal, then it will simply be a controlled territory, and a single one, without countries (this is how the "elites" of these countries degenerated into inadequate zombies).
                      Quote from Romanovski
                      Russia, China, India, Iran, the Arab world, part of the Asia-Pacific countries - they understood this very well and resolutely oppose the creation of a UNI-POLAR world order

                      Well... Russia opposes, the Arab world tolerates. And China .... while the dogs are biting, they are building their own Chinese world)))
                      Quote from Romanovski
                      But, I am more than sure that the aggressive and perverted West will sooner or later fall into the hole that it is diligently digging for Russia and China ....

                      Well, when it falls (if, after that, someone survives), then the winner will have to replace the vacuum, either by joining himself or creating a controlled puppet state. And if China unequivocally takes it for itself (there are no bad ones, they understand that relapses are possible), then about the Russian Federation ... our FSE is a rake))) In any case, there is one competitor / pole and plus to the monopolar world)))
                2. -2
                  30 September 2022 14: 40
                  Quote from Romanovski
                  And where did you get the idea that supposedly one day all states will disappear???

                  Because it's logical. Since these are the laws of the development of society.
                  Quote from Romanovski
                  Yes, the American financial and new digital elite are clearly dreaming of this in order to create their own new wonderful World (that is, a slave-owning world ...) under the guise. But dreaming is not harmful ... Hitler (i.e. - Emil, according to memoirs of the chief of military intelligence of the Wehrmacht V. CANARIS ...)

                  This is some particularly severe form of guardian delirium.
          2. +1
            30 September 2022 15: 23
            Well, then it’s more honest to abandon the war and “throw the agenda” in the face of the aggressor military commissar. Indeed, resignation is possible. But so after all for "idea". No, it's easier to run. But the main thing is to be "politically motivated".
          3. 0
            1 October 2022 09: 28
            They would run away like they are running now. The thin-necked, anthelmintic part of the current post-Soviet generation will always run. It is in them forever and for any reason. And there is no need to come up with excuses and plausible excuses. They are cowards under any circumstances. Well, to hell with them.
            1. -1
              1 October 2022 09: 48
              How easy it is to accuse one side of cowardice. And why is everyone silent about the other side: the children of ministers, officials, deputies? Both sons fought with Stalin, but with these?
              1. 0
                1 October 2022 11: 18
                And I do not sort them according to the social status of themselves and their mothers-folders. They are all cowards and rubbish to run. I won’t be surprised if this trash in Georgia or Finland is rolled up in camps and even pomuryzhev, riveted from them as “neovlasovites”.
          4. +1
            1 October 2022 12: 10
            Yes. I read about the adventures of one of those who fled to Kazakhstan. Fled to avoid mobilization. He wrote about himself: 27 years old, does not have a military specialty, did not serve, and now attention, according to health indications, is in the third group of priority. This is how it was necessary to crap ... in order to get out of Russia. If anything, his father has more chances to get to the NWO than he does. Another tried to commit suicide when the summons arrived. Doctors saved, but not worth it. Would be a nominee for a Darwin Award.
        3. -1
          30 September 2022 12: 27
          Quote: qqqq
          Ordinary people are absolutely convinced of the justice of what is happening.

          "Ordinary people" are simple for that, that they can pour anything into their heads. They are usually "absolutely" convinced of anything, since they are not able to distinguish shades, but see the world in black and white. Those who understand how deceitful propaganda can be, and how many times politicians' words differed from their deeds, are not so sure of the "justice of what is happening."
          1. +2
            30 September 2022 15: 26
            And you, apparently, are not at all a "simple person", since you understand everything "correctly" ... No?
            1. +2
              30 September 2022 16: 03
              Yes. There's a bit of critical thinking and some sense of objectivity, you know.
              1. 0
                2 October 2022 23: 15
                Quote: Hyperion
                Yes. There's a bit of critical thinking and some sense of objectivity, you know.

                Don't praise yourself, no one will praise you
                1. 0
                  3 October 2022 12: 09
                  Quote: Usher
                  Don't praise yourself, no one will praise you

                  Time is like that. All by myself. Even to the front you have to collect your own equipment. Although I would not say that I praise myself. He said it as it is, without false (there are enough lies in our time) modesty.
        4. +6
          30 September 2022 18: 56
          Yes, and since 2000 they continue to gynocidize. The focus has shifted from cities to the provinces. And why do you think cities swell from visitors to work and permanent residence, and from part and because of this very thing, living in the provinces becomes more expensive than in a millionaire. And how convenient it is for us to drive the population into our few millionaires. It will be very convenient at once to control 60-70% of the human resources of the Russian Federation with a couple of raids in the city. It's not like in America the population is spread out over the suburbs - everything is compactly stuffed into human beings - it's convenient and cheap to liquidate at once.
        5. +2
          1 October 2022 09: 23
          Judging by the photo of the car, they don’t live very fat there.
      2. +12
        30 September 2022 09: 08
        Yes, it doesn’t sound scary, but I think it was necessary to give a ho, to hit the trash first .. There would be no more victims, but the effect would be the opposite .. A trump card would be beaten out by the main information, Ukraine would be the aggressor, not Russia ..
        1. +8
          30 September 2022 09: 48
          Russia would still be the aggressor, since for everything the so-called. "civilized world" Donbass is Ukraine, and Russia would intervene in the conflict on the territory of a neighboring state for republics not recognized by anyone. Even if Crimea was flooded, it would be the same on the part of "respected partners" ...
        2. +4
          30 September 2022 10: 03
          In my opinion, the most optimal was the entry of the entire group into the LDNR and the declaration of that territory as Russian without further advancement in depth, the West would have grumbled but swallowed, the sanctions would certainly have been but not so large-scale, now the situation is extremely difficult and, frankly, the prospects are not very visible.
        3. -4
          30 September 2022 11: 19
          Rave. The two of you propose to follow the informational agenda of Western propaganda and, despite the military necessity, leave the enemy the initiative, exposing allies in the republics under attack

          That is, you propose to give the enemy the opportunity to control our plans.

          So Ukraine has already launched an attack on the republics from February 20-22
          1. +2
            30 September 2022 11: 27
            And now they don’t manage like))) I think it’s even like ...
      3. -8
        30 September 2022 09: 20
        How did you change the author? You admire him so much and in every possible way supported everything that he used to write ... lol
        1. +3
          30 September 2022 11: 39
          Quote: Alexey Sedykin
          How did you change the author? You admire him so much and in every possible way supported everything that he used to write ... lol

          Do you think he should always be supported as president? Because they previously agreed with something? Even though it's gone now?
          1. -3
            30 September 2022 20: 04
            Do you think that a person rejoicing at the fact that the Kazakhs called him a kotakpas "the head of a penis" has any value? And there, there are a lot of them...
            1. +1
              30 September 2022 23: 27
              Quote: Alexey Sedykin
              Do you think that a person rejoicing at the fact that the Kazakhs called him a kotakpas "the head of a penis" has any value? And there, there are a lot of them...

              did you answer me? request Or are you talking to yourself?
              1. -2
                1 October 2022 10: 09
                Well, you wrote to me that Skomorokhov is wrong here ... so I answered with what this "hamster" and most of them are able to help Russia.
      4. +4
        30 September 2022 12: 10
        Quote: skeptic
        And this is the main reason for leaving, very many. It is the unwillingness to participate in the global scam of the destruction of Russia, by the thieves' pahanat. There would be no such outflow of the people of Russia if the events began with the invasion of the NATO-led Ukrobandoty in the LDNR. And it would be perceived as a holy war. And there would be no flows abroad, but there would be queues at the military registration and enlistment offices.

        +1
        In February, there was a shock from the fact that we attacked first. Then there was the shock of how softly it was carried out.
        Eight years of bombing? And how often did they talk about it on federal channels? Not! The agenda was different. We spent the World Cup and spent a lot of money on this. Well, they didn't cover it. Did you report this to the President? I do not believe that it is not. It is easy to make everyone feel guilty, but what did the authorities themselves do for this?
        Have you carried out import substitution for 8 years? Not! Well, maybe on paper. And most importantly - NO! Maybe they were preparing the troops, keeping records of the storerooms, updating the data in the military registration and enlistment offices? Looking at how the mobilization is going - no !! Those who left could not leave, bringing benefits in civilian life. But no, it was necessary to saw with gusto the bough on which they sat and then, with surprise, rub the beaten back.
        Hell, send some to fight, some with experience, others to at least dig trenches and build fortifications. Damn construction battalion. There are benefits, few run.
        You can think of a lot of things if you think with your head, and not w..oh.
        1. -1
          5 October 2022 20: 52
          Any reservist training is a waste of time. The regular army should go into battle, and the reservists are precisely the reserve.
      5. 0
        30 September 2022 12: 21
        Alexander. What is happening is not with Russia, as you put it, but ultimately with Putin personally, and he understands this. But Russia is different. Alexander speaks from the position of a judge. But .. "We all look at Napoleons, there are millions of two-legged creatures!" Judging well, knowing all the details thoroughly. Our government has inherited one of the most unattractive features of the Soviet system - the desire to classify everything, so I do not undertake to be a judge in this matter. But on an emotional level, I feel that Putin was right on February 24th. Why? Because for 8 years we all knew Putin as an extremely cautious politician who started a rigmarole with the Minsks, it would be better to have a dialogue in the style. And since he decided on this, and not out of the blue, but preparing, pulling the troops, bringing Lukashenka to his senses, it means that something inevitably threatened us ... that made him. Just in the Soviet style, he did not tell the people what exactly served as the trigger. What exactly made him, I don’t know, but obviously, by the way, it was not the shelling of Donbass, because the Ukrainians were standing in front of Donetsk, and they are still standing, but they were driven away from the Crimea. Another thing is the execution of the plan - it does not fit in the head - the withdrawal of troops from Kyiv and the defeat near Kharkov. Alexander justifies the fugitives on emotions. On the other hand, I believe on emotions that if we accepted into Russia people who were forced or not forced to believe in Russia, then now it is necessary to ensure the safety of our new compatriots, and not, as before, "with a slow step, a timid zigzag."
      6. +8
        30 September 2022 13: 25
        For more than 30 years they have been pumping "Western values" into the young. That's it. And now they want everything to be as it should be. It won't be.
        1. +4
          30 September 2022 22: 35
          "The government is to blame for the depravity of the youth"
          Ahem. I would say - she herself set an example))) Personal, lifestyle
      7. +1
        30 September 2022 16: 37
        Only on the globe, Ukraine "the whole world" considers Russia an aggressor. For Bandera, "the whole world" is the Anglo-Saxon states and the paid satellites that joined them. No need to drag high spirituality to ordinary cowardice. And the fact that the Anglo-Saxons could take the side of Hitler in the war against the USSR has long been no secret. And Stalin knew this, why he pulled to the last with mobilization, so as not to give a reason to declare the USSR the aggressor. With the ensuing consequences: huge losses at the beginning of the war. As I understand it, you wanted Russia to wash itself with a lot of blood too? Who you are? I doubt that a patriot of Russia.
      8. +1
        30 September 2022 23: 01
        Do you know where the Germans got when Stalin waited for their first blow?
        We looked at Moscow through binoculars.
  2. +17
    30 September 2022 04: 42
    I won’t say about Mongolia, but our border with China is closed. There has been no passenger traffic for several years due to the coronovirus. In China, this is very strict. They say, if only through Moscow, but I doubt that we can talk about mass character. Where can I know? I live in the Good, and beyond the Amur-Heihe. And the attitude towards these "frightened" ... and what attitude can there be towards them now? As to an empty place. Fake.
    1. +8
      30 September 2022 05: 10
      How nice to see the handwriting of a fellow countryman! Greetings from Belogorsk!
      1. +1
        30 September 2022 08: 37
        Hello! I also lived in Belogorsk, while I was studying at a techie, and they were called from there!
    2. 0
      30 September 2022 06: 58
      Artyom, I have been to the cities of the Far East, located near the border, I wrote to you in a personal
    3. +12
      30 September 2022 09: 06
      .And the attitude towards these "frightened" ... and what attitude can there be towards them now? As to an empty place. Fake.


      It is easy to call it frightened and maybe even somewhere cowardly, who will not be able to answer citizens, and what to say “peck” the weak “loved” even in the Soviet army.
      And why doesn’t anyone call to strike in the rights or call fake all those who planned this small victorious special operation and brought it to the point that seven months later mobilization was needed, why not strike in the rights of those who have been our Minister of Defense for more than ten years and in the General Staff, who was involved in the reforms of the army, but in reality it turns out that we do not have any modern army, that the mobilized need to buy everything themselves.
      I don’t hear cries to call the commander-in-chief a “fake” who, using Peskov’s words, stated that there would be no exchanges of Nazis from Azov, and even less British mercenaries, and even more so for Medvedchuk, who is not interesting to us at all, but in fact an exchange happens, about which moreover we will learn from the Ukrainian side how the exchange of another prisoner with the call sign Taira (or something like that) took place before.
  3. -3
    30 September 2022 04: 45
    I treat these runners with contempt... even in Russia one should wipe one's feet about such people... they have spoiled this part of society with tolerance too much.
    In Kazakhstan and Georgia, Russophobes will show them where democracy and human rights end.
    I hope the Kremlin will finally understand who they can rely on in a difficult situation and who must always be supported by the ruble and the law.
    Our traitors, with their stupid mind, do not understand that the West needs them only as the executioners of their own people, and the money they stole from our country will be taken away and used to purchase weapons for the Ukronazis ... so the conversation with the traitors of our country and people should be short ... either a wall or the construction of a railway to Kamchatka.

    1. +22
      30 September 2022 05: 35
      A week ago, they handed a summons to a neighbor in the country, he had not served for 40 years, they went to a meeting with a request to give time to settle things with the company, and now he wrote that he was released. They said that they would call for a general mobilization. That's what the magic pendel does.
      1. +2
        30 September 2022 06: 10
        Neighbor 60 years old? Dmzhe at the general does not fit.
        1. +15
          30 September 2022 06: 32
          I apologize for misrepresenting my thoughts. It should be read, 40 years old, did not serve in the army.
          1. +1
            30 September 2022 06: 35
            I already guessed that the comma is not there.
    2. -4
      30 September 2022 06: 51
      Legislatively deprive them of their citizenship. They chose their fate. Well, or in extreme cases, a ban on the profession
      1. -6
        30 September 2022 07: 23
        I agree about citizenship, but I think that if it doesn’t come to that, it can be done differently: a reduction in rights. They do not have the right to elect and be elected, they do not have the right to have their own business, in any field of activity, they do not have the right to occupy positions higher than workers. For 10 years. And, and the income for such cannot exceed the minimum wage. I got a job for 50 thousand, conditionally, without problems. Minimum wage on hand, the rest - in the budget.
        1. +18
          30 September 2022 08: 27
          After all, how interesting it turns out .. Those who were told fairy tales from TVs about the fact that only professionals would fight and there would be no mobilization, everything is going according to plan, there are no losses, we are in no hurry, it means traitors .. And those who are still regularly fills the Ukrainian GTS with gas, and Druzhba with oil, paying loot to Ukraine, who pro .. al everything that is possible militarily, from cruisers to regroupings, are these heroes? Are the heroes who just give away the Nazis who killed our soldiers? Are the heroes who have been destroying the Russian economy for years? The people who leave are just a lot smarter than you..
          1. +3
            30 September 2022 10: 46
            No problem. Let their smart heads be kept once and for all outside Russia. I'm not at all against it, on the contrary - only for the fact that these slugs do not return.
          2. 0
            30 September 2022 23: 49
            Cowardly corrupt bastard, and where, in what place did you see their mind !!!
            1. 0
              1 October 2022 10: 05
              I saw a lot of smart people among those who left the country. For example, Sergey Guriev is the smartest person and Russian.
      2. +16
        30 September 2022 07: 36
        Well, I don't support these runners in any way, but they have nothing to show! Is the exit from the country closed? No. Those. they can simply be called tourists ... But if, when leaving the country, they hand over subpoenas to the military registration and enlistment office, then everything changes dramatically, the matter will already smell like an article. And without that, they have nothing to present ...
        1. -2
          30 September 2022 10: 48
          There is no need to present them with anything. Just a ban on entry, and deprivation of citizenship. Everything. Absolutely normal.
          1. +5
            30 September 2022 13: 08
            There are no grounds... In general, in the fall I wanted to go to Central Asia... I dream of seeing the Pamirs... Now I won't go... But what if I went? Deprive me automatically of citizenship? Excuse me, on what basis?
            1. -2
              30 September 2022 14: 13
              Are you a conscript? Are you under mobilization? If not, then you can safely go. If yes, then it's not worth it.
              1. +3
                30 September 2022 18: 44
                obligated. But over the years, I can only get into the second wave, an ordinary 40+ ... No, now I won’t go. And air prices have skyrocketed, and they will give people more, without understanding whether they are a tourist or a deserter. And the situation has now changed dramatically in the country. No, now is not the time for tourism ...
                1. 0
                  30 September 2022 18: 50
                  Well, it's up to you. 40+ yes, it does. In this regard, it is both easier and more difficult for me. Already deregistered, 54 years old. They won't even volunteer, most likely.
                  1. -1
                    30 September 2022 23: 28
                    They'll take it. As long as you can volunteer. And with the universal necessarily, I think I will have to be 60+. Killed, we are with the West, seriously. As happens every 100 years. It doesn’t matter out of stupidity or out of calculation and Putin’s knowledge of the real threat to the Russian Federation, this has already happened, there is nowhere to retreat. Well, except for the line of the 90s, when a drunken EBN sang while dancing, God save America. Even if we reach the borders with Poland, the war will not stop. Is that a vigorous loaf zhahnet.
                    1. 0
                      1 October 2022 06: 55
                      They'll take it. As long as you can volunteer.
                      Until they take it. On Monday-Tuesday, maybe I'll take a walk to the military registration and enlistment office. My VUS was not suitable for the conditions ... But I have nothing to do in the infantry, my health is not right. If they agree to train a tank as a driver, maybe they will take, however, my height is over 180. And so - the MAZ 543 mechanical driver is not needed there ...
                      1. 0
                        1 October 2022 10: 09
                        If you're determined, go ahead. But tankers also need excellent health. Do not be a burden to comrades and commanders. You have to fight there, not just serve.
                      2. 0
                        1 October 2022 10: 47
                        I understand. Let's see. If they give us an opportunity, we will fight. No no.
      3. +6
        30 September 2022 10: 46
        Haven't they tried to teach patriotism to the sons of our officials who live in Europe? Or one of those?
        1. -2
          30 September 2022 12: 04
          An interesting opinion of a character who has just registered .. Banned? I understand? Or from liberda?
          1. -1
            30 September 2022 16: 49
            That is, the issue with the sons has disappeared? if liberda says that the acceleration of free is 9,81 - you will argue the same and disagree, since liberda said?
            1. 0
              30 September 2022 17: 14
              Of course it fell away. Because the question is completely stupid.
              1. 0
                30 September 2022 17: 34
                Banned? Understand? Or from Liberda?

                Because the question is completely stupid.

                It's hard to argue here hi
      4. +2
        30 September 2022 13: 32
        On what basis? They didn't break any law
    3. +9
      30 September 2022 07: 01
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      I treat these runners with contempt... even in Russia one should wipe one's feet about such people... they have spoiled this part of society with tolerance too much.

      1. 0
        5 October 2022 21: 01
        Replace item 5 with Betrayal. At the border, you need to write out subpoenas, did not come, upon returning to the country to bunk beds, depression and denial and anger will be cured there.
    4. kin
      +11
      30 September 2022 07: 33
      The Kremlin always relies on people like you, and when it carried out pension reform and elections at all levels, it dispersed demonstrations of dissatisfied people and judged them. We still need to figure out who is a traitor or a strikebreaker.
      1. -1
        5 October 2022 21: 03
        You are a traitor, do not hesitate. It is not the Kremlin that is fighting, but the country, he left his homeland in a difficult time, you are an enemy. If my country is at war, I don’t care who and why, then we’ll figure it out after the victory.
        1. kin
          0
          6 October 2022 04: 48
          It is not the country that is at war, it is the state that is at war. And where are you now, in Ukraine?
          1. 0
            14 October 2022 11: 31
            I am a reserve officer, air defense, but already a bit old, my complex was reduced 30 years ago. I served my country in the most difficult time in the early 90s, now I’m of little use, but if they call me to go, I won’t run.
            And now for the smart guy: a country is a society that exists on a certain territory, without fail having a state, i.e. such a part of itself that preserves, protects this society and its territory within clear boundaries, directs and manages them on behalf of its citizens.
            The COUNTRY, the people, is fighting, and the state is just a control machine, a part of the country that performs its functions, it cannot fight, because it has neither people nor borders.
            1. kin
              -2
              14 October 2022 15: 31
              And now for an old reserve officer, as I understand it, here everyone is pissing boiling water for themselves, old and pretending to be fiery fighters. I can’t, I won’t be of any use, let others go there, but I’m always ready ... our song is good, start over.
              I'm not going to give you political information, google the definitions of what a country is and what a state is. If it is not clear, there were letters.
              1. 0
                14 October 2022 17: 18
                And now for the clown, unlike you, I served the Motherland, and also studied social science and I know perfectly well what a country and a state are. But you run to Kazakhstan, because in which case we will first destroy our traitors, and then we will go to kill the Ukrainians with the whole country, and not the state.
                You study the words of the song: "Get up, huge country."
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      1. +26
        30 September 2022 08: 02
        Here, by the way, there is another interesting aspect of this mobilization .. In Russia, there are probably several million newly-minted citizens. Which, of course, have never served in the RF Armed Forces, and therefore are not subject to mobilization. That is, the indigenous - to the front, and the newcomers - to the shops ?? Strange somehow it turns out .. In fairness - that's exactly what they should first of all prove devotion to the new Motherland? Not?
        1. +2
          30 September 2022 09: 35
          In Crimea, most of the mobilized served in the Ukrainian army, and not in the RF Armed Forces, there are no problems with their mobilization. New citizens from Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, etc. can be called upon if necessary.
        2. -2
          1 October 2022 00: 03
          To deprive Russian citizenship and take away passports, all this is solved quickly and simply, why do we need these fleeing dregs of society, on which one cannot even rely on in difficult times.
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      2. +8
        30 September 2022 08: 53
        For some reason, many do not know that 90 percent of these "refugees" are actually Kazakhs who recently received Russian passports.
        Same thing with the "refugees" in Georgia. These are Georgians with Russian passports.

        Do not make nonsense - the vast majority of these "refugees" are still Russians. Or do you think if a Russian was born in Kazakhstan or Georgia, then he is Kazakh or Georgian, respectively? Then everything is even harder, I don’t even know what to say here.
        1. +2
          30 September 2022 11: 55
          And what is most interesting, ethnic Kazakhs from Russia do not shy away from service.
          1. +5
            30 September 2022 13: 09
            Believe it or not, but friends from KZ say that among those who came running to the same Astana and Almaty, there are many Muscovites, St. Petersburg residents and people from million-plus cities. I believe, because not everyone can afford to pay such horse money for a flight and renting an apartment.
            1. +1
              30 September 2022 14: 46
              Yes, I know. And there is nothing surprising in this.
      3. +1
        30 September 2022 09: 29
        I live in the Orenburg region, 150 km from Kazakhstan, recently an acquaintance went to Kazakhstan on a business trip and said that most cars at the border are in line with Moscow and St. Petersburg numbers
      4. -2
        30 September 2022 10: 10
        It would be very good now to urgently issue subpoenas to people with two passports in the first place. And vice versa, it is better to do everything according to the law.
        Let's just according to the law and transfer to Kazakhstan information about the fugitives, who have a second citizenship. It's punishable there, so let them figure it out. The runners will run back.

        And according to guest workers, one of them is probably a patriot of Russia. Many are held back only by their lack of citizenship. Give citizenship immediately complete with a passport, with a summons, and give everything only at the military registration and enlistment office and after a medical examination.
        1. 0
          30 September 2022 20: 57
          Quote from Bioorganism
          for sure a patriot of Russia. Many are held back only by their lack of citizenship. Give citizenship immediately complete with a passport, with a summons, and give everything only at the military registration and enlistment office and after a medical examination.
          - yes, there is already a simplified procedure - a year of military service
          1. 0
            1 October 2022 11: 08
            no, only yesterday they began to publish a new order signed by Putin.
      5. -2
        30 September 2022 10: 48
        Especially to take away the citizenship of the Russian Federation.
      6. -1
        30 September 2022 10: 49
        And those who received a Russian passport, just for the convenience of work?
        I hope that if they left, they renounced their Russian citizenship? Since the work, for the convenience of which, they quit, why do they need citizenship?
      7. +3
        30 September 2022 11: 54
        This is a lie and a translation of the arrows. Moreover, I don’t know about Georgians, but the majority of Kazakh citizens who have received Russian citizenship are Russians. Kazakhs do not need your citizenship for free.
      8. -1
        30 September 2022 15: 36
        So it is so, but after all, when citizenship
        begged for the convenience of work, did not imagine that this could turn out? Or did not read that a citizen is obliged?
  4. +2
    30 September 2022 04: 50
    Don't give up on your people. Every nation has its heroes, traitors and just cowards. Traitors must cut down the forest and continue to develop the Kolyma. Cowards must be taken out and sent to the second echelon, they will benefit if there is a third echelon behind them.
    1. -1
      30 September 2022 07: 26
      Underpants must be taken out and sent to the second echelon
      why should we do what the Ukrainian Nazis do? Why do we need a second echelon with detachments behind us? After all, a coward may not be afraid to run forward, shooting at the back of the first echelon, just to surrender to the enemy ...
  5. +1
    30 September 2022 04: 52
    But whoever decides to return after serving time - that's the one to plow in full.
    And send to buy.
    I agree, "plow" - only at the "Komsomol" construction site in Siberia, up to five years! And "buy" is the same as "buy".
    1. -7
      30 September 2022 07: 26
      You are kind, dear. Five years is nothing. Chervonchik, at least, with confiscation ...
      1. +6
        30 September 2022 09: 58
        Comrades! Don't make nonsense!
        What is 5 years for them to leave the country?
        Not a single such fugitive, in fact and legally, faces practically nothing serious!
        The only thing that can then be applied to them, based on the totality of the norms of the Federal Law on mobilization, the Code of Administrative Offenses and the Criminal Code, is Art. 21.5 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation - Non-appearance of a citizen who is or is obliged to be on military registration, on the call (summon) of the military commissariat or other body that carries out military registration, at the prescribed time and place without a good reason, failure to appear at the prescribed time at the military commissariat for military registration accounting, removal from military registration and making changes to military registration documents when moving to a new place of residence located outside the territory of the municipality, place of stay for a period of more than three months or leaving the Russian Federation for a period of more than six months or entering the Russian Federation, as well as failure to report within the prescribed period to the military commissariat or to another body that carries out military registration about a change in marital status, education, place of work or position, about moving to a new place of residence located within the territory of the municipality, or place of stay -

        (in the edition of the Federal Law from 09.03.2010 N 27-FZ)

        (see the text in the previous wording) - entails a warning or the imposition of an administrative fine in the amount of five hundred to three thousand roubles.

        What about Art. 337-340 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation in which to amend? Yes, nothing - until a citizen in a military registration and enlistment office or a collection point has signed a mobilization order and / or contract - he is not threatened by any of these articles of the Criminal Code, because. he does not yet have military status. Moreover, even the first summons was not handed to him, because. he physically flowed over the hill.

        Now about what scares the military registration and enlistment office and some deputies. Article 328 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - Evasion of conscription for military service in the absence of legal grounds for exemption from this service; Evasion of alternative civilian service by persons exempted from military service.
        Here we read the explanations of the Supreme Court: paragraph 2 of the decision of the Plenum of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation No. 3 of 03.04.2008/XNUMX/XNUMX: Subjects of the crime provided for by part 1 of article 328 of the Criminal Code
        Russian Federation, are male citizens who have reached the age of 18, consisting
        or required to be registered with the military and [b]not in the reserve
        ,
        subject to military conscription in accordance with the procedure established by law
        (hereinafter referred to as conscripts).
        Therefore, Art. 328 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation cannot be applied to fugitives. That is why we do not see now ships and landings of evaders in Russia.
        In this regard, it seems that this issue with those mobilized at the age of 27+ is not defined in terms of responsibility for draft evasion for mobilization.
        That is why the Ministry of Defense declared that it would not put anyone on any international wanted list.
        That is why there are no grounds on the basis of adm. offenses of fugitives to be subjected to criminal investigation. They will come, fined 3000 rubles. and everything will be the same for them!
        1. +2
          30 September 2022 16: 25
          Well, finally, at least someone reads the laws, and not just listens to all sorts of Solovyovs and deputies who do not know the laws that they themselves adopt. laughing
          1. -2
            30 September 2022 18: 14
            We have been working as lawyers for 20 years. I can’t miss how they talk about horror stories that the military commissars traditionally scare everyone. So those who escaped escaped and this is their own business. When there is a victory, their veterans will tread at the fountains so that they remember where they were and where the heroes celebrating the great victory.
        2. +3
          30 September 2022 16: 55
          That is why, the wise Defense Ministry said that it would not scare the escapees in Kazakhstan. Because there is no legal basis for this. The squeals of individual drivers of the guards sofas are of little interest to anyone. Moreover, if they did so, there would be a formal reason to shock, sorry, other citizens who are not hiding in Kazakhstan at all. And do they need it? so they can splash here with saliva until they get bored .....
          1. +3
            30 September 2022 18: 21
            You're right. Well, it has long been clear to everyone that, according to the established tradition, the military commissariats stupidly like to score on the study of the provisions of the Federal Law on military duty ...., On mobilization ..., Regulations on military registration, shows of the Russian Federation. There is an approach to their duties as in the police, where, apart from the sledakk and dozvetel, no one of the Criminal Code, Code of Criminal Procedure and the Code of Administrative Offenses, the plenums of the RF Armed Forces does not even read or search. Why. There is a landing / call plan. Take everyone who is easier to reach, there are a lot of them and you don’t need to strain, but why difficult runners and dodgers? And there is no state, and there is no desire, and just laziness. So they even sweep those who did not serve, without the experience of military service, without wus, who draw right there during mobilization.
            On the decree and "words" and explanations of the president and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, all the military commissars, without exception, put it a long time ago.
            1. +1
              30 September 2022 18: 44
              Oh, if it were only in the military registration and enlistment offices .... And among ... the funeral directors ..... Similar .... situevina is almost everywhere. Shaw in medicine, sho in education, sho where else .... Sometimes - because to observe .... "paper" is simply not realistic. For example, if you are going to take schoolchildren on a camping trip, then, according to the instructions, you can drink them only with bottled water. 3 liters per day per person, according to the standard. 10 students for a week, for example)))......
              In the same industry associated with ... defense. One office has the right to use imported packaging. Some - no way.
              Well, and the observance by all kinds of security forces of some kind of legal requirements there ..... tradition, sir ....
              1. +2
                30 September 2022 23: 52
                In general, we have laws to be enforced only for feed, sorry, for the electorate. But this is how things will go, the case with the shot military commissar will not be an isolated one. It would be better for them all the same not to be lazy and turn their heads under their caps.
          2. +2
            30 September 2022 18: 47
            About other citizens and not to Kazakhstan, you correctly noted this, otherwise, "why is it possible for this, but not for us?".
        3. -2
          1 October 2022 00: 17
          Nonsense is ridiculous, it clearly smacks of a more serious crime, the deliberate concealment of one's location in order to avoid the legal delivery of a summons to arrive at the military registration and enlistment office !!!
  6. -4
    30 September 2022 04: 58
    Quote: angara200
    Don't give up on your people.

    Of course, it’s not worth it ... for especially stubborn traitors, it is necessary to recreate dispensaries in the swamps of Kolyma and Magadan with sessions of wellness procedures in the form of labor at logging sites.
    The sun, air and water are the best doctors and time will have to think.
    1. +4
      30 September 2022 07: 04
      Lesha, good morning! hi Are there other options besides the wall and Kolyma?
      1. +3
        30 September 2022 08: 08
        Are there other options besides the wall and Kolyma?

        Hello old timers. May I intervene? There is an option. Now, crossing the border, a person does not violate anything and believes that he will return later. It is necessary that he HIMSELF make a choice at the border line - there freely, back - through prison. And for this, the law prohibiting the departure of 18-60 years (with reasonable rare exceptions). And responsibility for its violation in the Criminal Code. Release against signature "I do not have Russian citizenship, I have been warned about the article" - and good riddance. Do not keep .
        1. +1
          30 September 2022 09: 17
          Hello Dauriya! Well, here is one of the normal options. With a stamp in the passport, I also liked it. And then some: the tundra, Kolyma - here you need to think about how to save, what can be saved. And the process of demarcation and sorting can go to the very end, like cabbage. And end with the death of the country.
        2. +3
          30 September 2022 10: 06
          What are all the patriots here. Why haven't you volunteered yet?
        3. 0
          30 September 2022 10: 51
          Then they won't come back :)
          And even more will leave after such draconian measures. And not only the labor force is leaving, but also IT specialists, scientists and other specialists. Instead of talking nonsense about Kolyma here, it would be better if they went to the front as a volunteer, they would show an example to those who left.
          1. -1
            30 September 2022 15: 07
            set an example for those who have left.

            Won't you blush with shame if toothless old men in their seventies put on uniforms again instead of IT people? It is only with Valya Tereshkova at 65 that life beats like a fountain.
            1. +1
              30 September 2022 16: 57
              Well no. If, having lived to toothlessness, the old people have not grown wiser, they are not inclined to blush. Age often comes alone, leaving wisdom in a tavern....
              1. -1
                30 September 2022 18: 58
                If, having lived to toothlessness, the old people did not grow wiser -

                Do you know what our difference is?
                Young think that old people are stupid
                And the old people знаютthat the young are stupid. .

                And we have long tried all your "brilliant" nonsense in our own skin.
                1. 0
                  30 September 2022 19: 05
                  They didn’t guess)) Our Politburo, at one time, knew that
                  young people are stupid. .

                  Do not remind me how it all ended there?
                  And examples of such - about a ton .....
                  And taking into account the fact that someone there was going to dress in seventy uniforms .... Then wisdom just went to smoke and got lost. Not to mention the fact that having, conditionally, an indulgence, you can demand victims as much as you like.
                  If wisdom were complete with age, she would have to ask certain things until the conditional month of February. Referring to 1904, 1914, 1917, 1941 and so on. And if the TV replaces wisdom in old age, then let her eat this soup herself .....
        4. -1
          30 September 2022 16: 56
          And why are you not in the State Duma? However, with such ideas, you would fly out of there, exceeding the speed of sound. If they hit at all wink
        5. +2
          30 September 2022 18: 25
          This is an illegal restriction of the rights of citizens by birth. They won't go for it. Yes, and a criminal for the fact that you have not yet been called up, have not been summoned by a summons, but you sit nervous and wait - this is too much. Closing the exit or entry is, in fact, we will make a prisoner out of Russia.
        6. +1
          30 September 2022 21: 32
          What's the point in staying in Russia? There is no work, and now they are also sent to the front
  7. +1
    30 September 2022 05: 05
    All who left the country during the period of mobilization to hit the electoral rights (to elect and be elected to the bodies of all branches of government) for life. And on his return to prosecute.
    1. -8
      30 September 2022 05: 51
      That's right. And let them build million-plus cities in the tundra or wherever they wanted.
      1. -3
        30 September 2022 07: 28
        ... And until there is a garden city in the tundra, with flowering apple trees, pears and avocados, do not let go back.
    2. 0
      30 September 2022 13: 35
      On what basis? They didn't break any law
  8. +35
    30 September 2022 05: 06
    All these businessmen, IT people and other human scum.
    i.e., as I understand it IT people is it a priori "human scale"? Those. working in the field of information technology 100% traitor and scum? Well... congratulations. Then, "dear" Roman, turn off the Internet, throw away your smartphone, screw up your computer with a sledgehammer, do not use a debit card (if you use it), demand in the store that you check the check not at the electronic cash register, but demand a cash register that is not connected to the Internet ... and so on and so on .... After all, all this and much more like - the work of enterprises, transport of all types, nuclear power plants there and so on are serviced, including by those whom you named
    scale human
    good Thank you! I was so "pleased".
    And yes. I am the same IT specialist, with the age of 49 years. And imagine, there is not even a thought to tear the claws somewhere. and yes, I am subject to the call. And I know younger colleagues, who are in the first category, and who do not break anywhere. And I know those of my colleagues who are not subject to conscription, and who have already broken, it is known where and who smears their skis hard.
    1. -1
      30 September 2022 17: 00
      And cho, do not boil??? It's strange .... Shit itself disappears in the toilet .... And tyrnet itself appears, only money to pay ... isn't it? And then these same characters weep from the lack of how many nanometers in their native defense industry .... Combustible, CSH, sob with tears ...
      But it normal. This, as they say, is a trend ....
      1. 0
        1 October 2022 04: 21
        So what
        kkk we say in Primorye - "cho - ass in Chinese." But I think it will be difficult for you wassat
        1. -1
          1 October 2022 21: 20
          I have a child, while it was small, she said "pie." Troshka was more educated, apparently. Are you all like that, in Primorye? Or is it the Chinese influence? There are more and more of them, unlike you ... But this is not a claim against you, if sho ....
          And for the outstanding representatives of our Far East .... What did you want to say?)
          Or for those who are especially gifted, it’s hard to understand that there is still sarcasm (Haven’t you heard such a word?), that programmers, in general, are the same people as engineers or are there doctors? And that these specialists, precisely specialists, are not enough? like everyone else, by the way .... With the uryakalki, however, everything was fine, but even then, something decreased ....
    2. +4
      30 September 2022 20: 56
      Oh, you are such a scum, preventing Roman from shooting foam at advertising shows! Although, what is there, I am exactly the same scum involved in ensuring the stability, security and integrity of the operation of communication facilities, data processing centers, as well as public communication facilities and lines of the Russian Federation.
  9. +5
    30 September 2022 05: 07
    We need to start getting rid of the dirt. And, finally, to adopt a law prohibiting dual citizenship, and not only for officials. A person who has a passport of another state is a "semi-citizen". What for such are necessary?
  10. -14
    30 September 2022 05: 17
    Quote: Region-25.rus
    as I understand it, IT people are a priori "human scale"? .

    You misunderstand...
    our IT specialist is a multidimensional creature... living in several temporal and material spaces and realities at once and choosing a convenient place of existence for himself depending on the comfort of work, life, views and then... there are no restrictions for him in the virtual world and he is very infuriated when something does not suit him in the real world and does not obey his inner desires smile... hence such chaotic and thoughtless actions.
    Somehow he reminds me of the alien character from the movie Men in Black 3.
    1. +10
      30 September 2022 05: 43
      You misunderstand...
      I understand as it is written. And if, let's say, I would like to write more precisely, so that there would be no rumors and misunderstandings, so to speak, "separate the husband from the cutlets" would be written like this -
      all sorts of hipster representatives of IT
      . Who are the hipsters, I think everyone knows. And who does not know, google and draw conclusions about what is written in the article.
      1. -11
        30 September 2022 05: 50
        Understand as you wish ... I do not encroach on your freedom of thought ... smile
        I googled forums for the interest of IT people at one time ... they seem to be smart and advanced people, but they swear like the last shoemakers.
        And so the people are normal ... only there are a lot of cockroaches running around in their heads. hi
        1. +9
          30 September 2022 06: 14
          Take it how you want...
          I was talking about wording. To you personally hi
    2. +3
      30 September 2022 06: 52
      According to you, this IT specialist is ready to go under anyone, comfort is above all.
  11. +11
    30 September 2022 05: 18
    . However, although the Constitution says that “a person, his rights and freedoms are the highest value”, there is also the fact that it is the Person and the Citizen who are obliged to protect all this.


    Constitution? Seriously? And what else is written there?
    1. +20
      30 September 2022 06: 57
      Quote: sergo1914
      Constitution? Seriously? And what else is written there?

      That the supreme bearer of power is the people laughing That the subsoil belongs to the people wink That Russia is a welfare state Yes A lot of interesting things ... In short, an entertaining reading, like a favorite book from childhood "Russian Folk Tales" good
      1. 0
        30 September 2022 17: 02
        Is the "18+" tag worth it? And then some minor reads, decides that this is the way it is .....
        1. +2
          30 September 2022 23: 01
          Well, well, you are so .... on fairy tales and the tag 18+ ... What kind of fairy tales are these? laughing Rather, it is necessary in the preface (which the Preamble is called) as in films, to write something like: "All events and characters are fictional. Any coincidences are accidental. For any coincidence with reality, the director and screenwriter are not RESPONSIBLE! The authors did not set themselves the task of inspiring truthfulness what is happening .... Well, all sorts of blah blah blah ... "
          1. -1
            1 October 2022 21: 41
            So I assumed that after 18 everyone understands this anyway))))
            1. 0
              1 October 2022 22: 04
              Well, that means to ban people under the age of 18 from reading the Constitution .... In order not to "excite" their fragile minds. As an option. good On a good note, it’s time to generally ban citizens from reading any such fiction, otherwise they’ve become completely loose, they start asking questions .... And any references to the Constitution and other legal acts should be declared fake and criminalized! There is already experience - our "legislators" have "knocked their hand" well on covid-madness or NWO! Sincerely hi
              1. -1
                1 October 2022 22: 22
                No need to tell them, let them think for themselves)))
                1. 0
                  1 October 2022 22: 33
                  Think about it, no doubt. To the point that we ourselves then go nuts! belay
  12. +11
    30 September 2022 05: 24
    I was born and raised in Kazakhstan, I know these people firsthand, I can say that a Kazakh friend is a true friend who will always lend a helping hand, but will never forgive betrayal. I am glad that it is there that the re-education period for the fled Russians will be, I think it will not be easy for them.
    1. kin
      +1
      30 September 2022 07: 41
      Yes, hare tryndet with such pathos. Kazakhs are the same people as everyone else. Patriots have gathered, laughter then. As it was said about the Uryaks here, you only know how to piss sofas. Previously, grandmothers gathered on benches and spread gossip, now on Military Review.
      Quote: Koronik
      I was born and raised in Kazakhstan, I know these people firsthand, I can say that a Kazakh friend is a true friend who will always lend a helping hand, but will never forgive betrayal. I am glad that it is there that the re-education period for the fled Russians will be, I think it will not be easy for them.
    2. 0
      30 September 2022 11: 37
      I read something similar in the books of Yu.I. Mukhin "USSR Lost Paradise" and his first edition "Three Jews or how good it is to be an engineer" .. about his communication with the Kazakhs when he participated in the construction of the world's largest ferroalloy plant in the city of "Yermak".
  13. +19
    30 September 2022 05: 25
    For thirty years of Russian “independence”, at least three generations have grown up who believe that they do not owe anything to anyone.

    Rather, for thirty years the state has been proving to three generations that it does not owe them anything...

    They were brought up like that, and it is unlikely that they will be able to somehow re-educate them, as well as improve Russian society by depriving the runners of citizenship.

    This sounds interesting in the background:
    Article 6
    ...
    3. Citizen of the Russian Federation cannot be deprived of their citizenship or the right to change it.

    This is not the Soviet Union! I am one hundred percent sure that neither the escaped Chubais, nor the oligarch thieves who fled abroad are deprived of Russian citizenship.
    *****
    It is interesting to read about some "reasons that prompted them" ... The black mold that struck the society has not gone anywhere and has not disappeared. Or is it perceived differently today: “You fight for now, and we will think about how to continue to supply the enemies of Russia with energy resources, metals and other goods”?
    For the most part, in spite of everything, people in our country turned out to be more decent and nobler than their cowardly and duplicitous state, which, moreover, turned out to be unable to perform the most necessary functions - the ability to defend oneself mobilize...
    And, let's forgive him (the state) - this is the first time ... belay How do we forgive a surgeon who has unsuccessfully performed an operation ...
    *****
    To begin with, it would be nice to decide on an ideology so that you can distinguish between ideological enemies from simple cowards and cowards.
    1. -9
      30 September 2022 07: 33
      A citizen of the Russian Federation may not be deprived of his citizenship or the right to change it.
      Right. But traitors, and those who fled from mobilization are precisely traitors, can and should be deprived of citizenship. Because they scored on the Constitution, on their duties - to defend the Motherland, they put it with the device. Why does the country need such "citizens"?
    2. -1
      1 October 2022 03: 12
      3. A citizen of the Russian Federation may not be deprived of his citizenship or the right to change it.
      Good. Don't revoke citizenship. It is necessary to limit this citizenship. Those. Duties as a citizen remain, but civil rights are abolished. This action is in no way contrary to Article 6. For citizenship itself is retained. Only persons with limited citizenship can enter back into the country upon receipt of a special permit, which still needs to be earned.
  14. 0
    30 September 2022 05: 29
    The most annoying thing is that the best die in the war, but such foam will then return and I will produce, and the result is already clear to everyone ....
  15. -8
    30 September 2022 05: 40
    Confiscation of property and 5-10 years in prison for desertion in case of return. In the DPRK, the presence of weak-hearted and traitors in the family places a heavy burden on both descendants and other relatives and requires them to selfless service to atone for the sins of family members.
    1. +1
      30 September 2022 13: 46
      But we are not in the DPRK. Do you want how is it? So move there!
      1. -1
        30 September 2022 15: 35
        Then we will be like in Russia under Yeltsin. Only without the airbag accumulated by the communists. For example, I used tea obtained in sets before 1990 by about 1998. And Gaidar financed his idiotic reforms by stealing pensioners' savings.
        Quote from Deep Diver
        But we are not in the DPRK. Do you want how is it?

        I personally do not understand why Pugacheva and Khamatova bathe in luxury, and why nurses in the central military hospital are begging for 24 rubles. After all, Putin will treat his close and especially loyal fighters there and not raise their spirits after severe injuries in his service with antics with anti-Russian statements by Pugacheva, Galkin and Khamatova.
        1. -4
          30 September 2022 16: 10
          Well, that's not my question. On the other hand, you will come to me later, because I am a "bourgeois", "capitalist" and "exploiter of the working class", so no, fuck the leveling!
          1. -1
            30 September 2022 23: 06
            Quote from Deep Diver
            On the other hand, you will come to me later, because I am a "bourgeois", "capitalist" and "exploiter of the working class"

            I worked for a capitalist with whom I had diametrically opposed directions. To mutual satisfaction, the third big job was not given to me. As far as I understand, a 70 kW chastotnik purchased on a tip from my competitor did not work with Indian automation. But about 2 years ago, a stove-maker worked in my team, whose wife is an SBU major, and her stepson seems to be a lieutenant in this structure. There was a common project of the dispenser with the hero of the Maidan, who knew the rates of payment and ordinary participants in the events in Kyiv and their leaders. Politics is a means of doing business. As soon as the costs of Russophobia exceed the dividends from this activity, those who want to drag chestnuts out of the fire for Washington will immediately disappear. As I understand it, the Ukrainians hoped to return both Crimea and Donbass in 3-4 years and create their own structures in the Kuban, Orel, Belgorod, oil fields in Tyumen and were ready to put 300 of their fighters for this. They extended the deadlines, merciful Putin did not give them a chance to shed so much of his blood at once. By the way, someone familiar with the financial kitchen of the Maidan predicted to crush the Notis company in Russia and take its place. Ukrainians are quite simple-minded. A person can assure you that all the heroes of the Maidan are unmercenaries, but when he hears in response that on the horizon of his counterpart’s circle there are several people who received $ 000 a week in early January, who had an income in Russia before Maidan $ 1000 a month and after a little more 2000 per month begin to assure you without embarrassment that such money is due only to the authorities, and ordinary infantry received 1000 dollars only in case of a desperate financial situation.
  16. +7
    30 September 2022 05: 47
    Mr. Skomorokhov has a big grudge against Kazakhstan, in almost every publication he kicks the poor thing ... Like that Roman commander and statesman about Carthage ... laughing
    1. Kim
      -15
      30 September 2022 07: 13
      Kazakhia next in line after Tribaltica
      Well, I hope :)
      1. +4
        30 September 2022 09: 21
        Deal with NATO first ... From Lisbon, write about your future plans smile
        1. Kim
          0
          30 September 2022 09: 54
          and nada? :)
          Well, if nnada - who am I, against the wind?
          so we cross out Tribaltia, we write briefly - NATA
          it's a pity
          was going to live
  17. -3
    30 September 2022 05: 52
    All traitors to the wall, and assemble a firing squad from the VO participants.
    1. +3
      30 September 2022 06: 59
      Good sarcasm. Not only everyone will understand it.
    2. +1
      30 September 2022 07: 35
      Quote: vova1910
      All traitors to the wall, and assemble a firing squad from the VO participants.


      We don't know how to do it. We are more on the rack, quartering and impaling. Age-s. Old, so to speak, cheekbones.
  18. +14
    30 September 2022 05: 54
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    I hope the Kremlin will finally understand who they can rely on in a difficult situation and who always needs to be supported by the ruble and the law

    Already understood for a long time - on Lyokha from Android wink
  19. -1
    30 September 2022 06: 10
    Why block the border, let them go. But close the entrance to everyone so that the saboteurs do not stop by. And as soon as all this ends, this brethren will trample back on putting seals on the border: "I left my homeland during the period of hostilities, I am inclined to treason," and that's it. And the lists must be. Accordingly, then do not give loans, infringe on pensions, etc. And so they are also ours, they were just scared. And when in 10-15-20-30 years the son or grandson asks: "Why do you have such an entry in your passport?" will have to answer. And when changing your passport, be sure to put these stamps so that the stigma is for life.
    1. +2
      30 September 2022 06: 57
      Quote: fiberboard
      Why block the border, let them go

      So that everyone doesn't leave.
    2. +2
      30 September 2022 21: 34
      Are you going to put a stamp in the passport for the children of our respected officials too? Has the stake grown for this?
      1. 0
        1 October 2022 15: 39
        Yep, she grew up. They are officials as long as WE let them.
    3. +1
      30 September 2022 23: 28
      Quote: fiberboard
      Why block the border, let them go.

      Many people with dual citizenship are leaving, ethnic Ukrainians or citizens of other countries who have acquired citizenship for the convenience of doing business in Russia. It is more correct to either imprison such people upon arrival for 5 or 10 years, or deprive their families of citizenship with confiscation of property. In the event of a big revolution in Russia, this is the fifth column and the reserve of the new Dirlewanger.
  20. +2
    30 September 2022 06: 16
    There is no point in condemning and pitying those who escaped. These are the people of their time. They were brought up like that, and it is unlikely that they will be able to somehow re-educate them, as well as improve Russian society by depriving the runners of citizenship.


    Why else??... The novel reduces everything to morality, and the real defense of the country is under threat. Citizenship is still a sacred duty. The fact that many have a deck of "legal statuses" in their pockets is a perversion. In case of war, a person cannot be on both sides of the front. That legislators allowed a farewell to arms regime is almost unparalleled in history. It destroys the state.
    For me, it is high time to introduce responsibility for the "reserve passport" of hostile countries. And now it's time to announce an honest mobilization. For all who did not come to the defense of Russia to introduce criminal liability. For "polycitizens" abroad - deprivation of citizenship of the Russian Federation with a life ban on entry into the Russian Federation.
    Mobilization is not only trenches, it is also maintaining order, and working in the rear, and helping the wounded. There are challenges for everyone.
    1. Kim
      +3
      30 September 2022 07: 12
      major fugitives to where a second passport is not needed
      to repeat the path of Madame Broshkina, decent money is needed
    2. +1
      30 September 2022 09: 32
      Speaking of tasks. Is the MO obliged to supply the mobilized?
    3. 0
      1 October 2022 00: 16
      Do we have a declared war? "The enemy is at the gates" and "everything for the front, everything for victory." What kind of work in the rear? What are you speaking about? So far, not the same situation. To call on adult men, tearing them away from families and work, for the sake of activity, it is not clear in what status (contract serviceman?) in the rear? What for? The active army is 7 months without rotation. Fighters are needed for the front, with VUS and skills. In the rear and so everything is fine.
  21. +4
    30 September 2022 06: 22
    For me, they never existed. They lived their lives, we lived ours. We worked in cold shops, and we built rubles for ourselves. If in peacetime we were not provided with equality in rights, then why would it be otherwise in wartime. The whole way of life is determined in peacetime. fifth point to do something. I don't blame these people. The old people won't run. They have created refugee status for themselves.
    1. +4
      30 September 2022 10: 02
      [quote] [quote = Nikolai Malyugin] We worked in cold shops,they built themselves ruble/quote[/quote]]
      why would they run? and they are all good
      ran, others who do not have "rubles"
      they ran after the state promised - one thing, but actually did - another ...
  22. -4
    30 September 2022 06: 26
    At least to deprive of citizenship, maximum to start a criminal case and put on the international wanted list.
  23. +8
    30 September 2022 06: 39
    I don’t blame, I myself went through Afghanistan, we were patriots, and after 1991 it turned out to be stupid people, as the new government told us, and it’s not a fact that the new one might say about the current Chubais as well
    1. +1
      30 September 2022 09: 59
      Quote: 77alex77
      I don’t blame, I myself went through Afghanistan, we were patriots, and after 1991 it turned out to be stupid people, as the new government told us, and it’s not a fact that the new one might say about the current Chubais as well

      +100500
  24. -5
    30 September 2022 06: 40
    The second wave of emigration, I hope, will cleanse our society of this corrupt and cowardly "biomass", there is no other way to call these frightened "patriots". At the border crossing points, all runners liable for military service must be stamped in a military ID that he deserted during the announced mobilization and is just a coward. The motherland should know its "heroes" and in the future such people should not receive benefits and preferences from the state, close access to budget money, soft loans, mortgages, maternity capital, etc. the state has enough leverage to make such parasites pariahs. Another thing is that inside the state, liberals who have settled in the government and the upper echelons of power continue to sabotage the Decrees of the President and undermine the security of our state. Briefly summarize - the country urgently needs SMERSH
  25. +13
    30 September 2022 06: 47
    at least three generations have grown up who believe that they owe nothing to anyone.
    For 30 years it has been hammered into the heads of the state that it owes nothing to citizens. That a contract army is better than universal conscription. Pay your taxes and sleep peacefully.
    But in the minds of many today it is somewhat different, inspired by that same Western democracy
    and who sowed Western values? Really arrived uncles from the West? Did you come to Russia and sow for 30 years?
    1. Kim
      +3
      30 September 2022 07: 11
      exactly
      and a young generation of journalists who took care of various kinds, but necessarily foreign, funds
      1. +8
        30 September 2022 07: 31
        Those. Since 1991, uncles have arrived, organized funds and began to decompose, with the full connivance of the authorities? "You came, you found me, but I got confused" (c) And so 30 years of complete confusion. And the evil Western uncles slipped anti-people bills to the bewildered authorities, reformatted consciousness, suggested that we can’t produce anything, that we’ll buy everything, that there are only partners around, imported guest workers, propagandized their values ​​through their films and series
        1. Kim
          -1
          30 September 2022 07: 58
          they were - power ...
          didn't think like that?
  26. +1
    30 September 2022 06: 56
    A friend from Almaty wrote that he had such an impression, he was on vacation in Russia, a lot, I don’t even know what to call them, I want to be obscene, there are also enough Ukrainians.
  27. -1
    30 September 2022 06: 58
    Yes, it is now like homeless people - people without a fixed place of residence.
    Although calling them people is also not true, why dirty honest people.
    Just beings from another planet...
  28. -4
    30 September 2022 07: 07
    Social rating must be introduced, it will decide everything.
  29. Kim
    -5
    30 September 2022 07: 10
    I also think - how / what will be the division? on what parameters?
    --------------------
    By the way, a good answer to those who snort at "Russia is either an empire or not Russia"
    it's time to revive
  30. -3
    30 September 2022 07: 10
    Kazakh Natsiks took up the "frightened patriots"...
    No pity for them.
    But a little later, Russia will take on the Kazakh Natsiks. wink

    [media=https://www.youtube.com/shorts/j_a4_NvUuSo]
    1. +2
      30 September 2022 07: 45
      It's disgusting to look at these 3,14 gifts
      1. +3
        30 September 2022 10: 18
        Quote: Luminman
        It's disgusting to look at these 3,14 gifts

        And who is the blogger who is interviewing? By the way, they correctly said Crimea to the Crimeans and they must decide with whom they want to be.
      2. 0
        1 October 2022 10: 21
        And who is this Kazakh? Who would have grazed horses in the steppe without Russia. PR, oh .. I'm a fat face.
        1. 0
          1 October 2022 11: 05
          And who is this Kazakh?

          Don't care about the Kazakh! Even a Kazakh with a fat muzzle laughs at these 3,14 gifts ...
  31. +13
    30 September 2022 07: 14
    Do you remember who declared, "It's time to get away from paternalism"? For all the years of the rule of this man, capitalist and liberal values ​​​​were instilled in the country. Consumers were made of people, as the authorities tirelessly declared.
    Patriotism in the country was only one day on May 9th. The rest of the days it was told what kind of villains our ancestors were. And here is the result
    1. +7
      30 September 2022 07: 50
      Baba Yaga caught a goldfish and asked to fulfill three wishes. Eternal youth, a palace and that her cat would become a handsome guy. She comes, instead of a hut, a palace, looked in the mirror - beautiful, a handsome guy comes out to meet and says: Well, what a mistress, now you regret that when you were a cat, you castrated me.
  32. +2
    30 September 2022 07: 15
    I'm more concerned about the question of not where the rats fled, but did they really collect 300 thousand? There is a feeling that we are being prepared for a grandiose nix, or am I still on treason?
    You know my method Kuev into dust, I talked with one warrior from Znamenka (who is not aware of the so-called white house on Znamenka Street), he shouted at me to erase Kuev into dust, kaaak do you understand that this is 10 million people?
    I tell him, Nazi accomplices you wanted to say, these are not people!
    In short, I will say this, if we have all such compassionate warriors in the General Staff, we will fight with the Ukrainians for a long time, like the Palestinians with the Jews, and the Donbass will be our own Gaza Strip.
    If you don’t want Kuev, let’s start with something mass, modern, for example, the Yarovsky training ground and its environs
  33. +8
    30 September 2022 07: 16
    I'll tell you a little secret. Kazakhstan, Georgia - a border crossing point, not a final destination.
    1. -1
      30 September 2022 08: 40
      So here, for the majority, foam splatters, but the brain does not turn on .. Even the States and the Germans have already said that they will accept everyone .. And they are discussing rent in Kazakhstan ..
      1. +1
        30 September 2022 09: 56
        Quote: 1939_1940
        Already even the States with the Germans said that they would accept everyone ..

        if they write - that they are political refugees ...
  34. +5
    30 September 2022 07: 19
    I came to the military registration and enlistment office on a mobile order. WBD, 47 years old. We looked, updated the data, said go home, there will be a general call.
    1. -5
      30 September 2022 08: 38
      I didn’t serve the same term, a military man bought a category B, plus I have a reservation, I have been working at a military enterprise all my life, at a factory there for a military man I earned myself, why should I join the army if I buy myself a military ID for 3 months of work , everyone seems to be embarrassed to say this, I don’t have them almost openly sold them, why did I have to go to the army if I just stupidly work hard for 16 hours from the age of 12, and my peers went to the army who ate khanka and nothing did not do, H worked or studied, what else to do with them.? So now, they take away those who sit at home to work, don’t go, they sit on the necks of women, mothers, even grandmothers, and there are such, in short, it’s a nice thing to go to the front, they’ll earn money for their parents, you’re used to eating khanka all day long, I’m for my peers say 30-40 years
  35. +7
    30 September 2022 07: 27
    I don't want to judge anyone. Received the "booking" a week ago. Who wants to run, let them run. Veterans of hostilities and who goes (and who is there) to the war, certainly have the right to criticize. I am silent.
    1. +1
      30 September 2022 08: 45
      There is also a reservation, he said to his own, there will be a universal one, I'll go!
      1. -2
        2 October 2022 03: 00
        There will be more, not universal, but apparently your next post will be something in the style of "that's up to St. Petersburg / Moscow / Yaroslavl ...., ...., they will reach" here there will be a nuclear one, then I'll go "
  36. -8
    30 September 2022 07: 41
    It's all useless scale, biomass...
  37. -3
    30 September 2022 07: 46
    That's right, Roman is right. That's just tormented by doubts, but whether our leadership, softly, with a liberal note, will "re-educate" scoundrels and cowards. Hard to believe.
    1. +1
      30 September 2022 11: 11
      Quote: ODERVIT
      with liberal mark leadership

      where are their children now?
      why during the Second World War all the leaders and military commanders had children at the front!
      so where are their children now?
      and from statistics it can be understood that there are now about 1,5 million people in power, and in the days of the USSR there were about 0,5 million people
      and ask yourself this question
      1. -1
        30 September 2022 22: 07
        Quote: Dedok
        and from statistics it can be understood that there are now about 1,5 million people in power, and in the days of the USSR there were about 0,5 million people

        The only government agency that was not in the USSR was the tax authority.
        About the fact that in each district there was a district committee and a district executive committee, and so on to Moscow ...
        It’s boring to remind about the devices of the Komsomol, the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions ...
        About the liberated party organizer in each part
        About the "first department" in every factory, even if there were no secrets in principle.
        And so on ...
        So there were at least 3-4 million people in power in the USSR.
        + the apparatuses of the republics, their ministries and departments are coming ...
  38. +6
    30 September 2022 07: 47
    To be honest, there is no unequivocal attitude towards those who left. But the article would be authoritative if the author himself wrote it while sitting in a trench. So far, those who have left have been strongly criticized mainly by those who are not threatened by mobilization for one reason or another. And then they themselves are better than those who left incomprehensibly.
  39. -1
    30 September 2022 07: 55
    These are not Russians, let them go, their civil "homosexuality" is not even a disease, but the essence. I am sure that some of them will return, but they should not be forgotten. The loss of rights must be and be indefinite.
    It is wrong to say that those who are now on the couch, and not in the trenches, condemn them. All those who remained on the couch today have a very likely opportunity to be called up instead of the "new Kazakhs" and "new Georgians" who quietly fled.
    1. -2
      30 September 2022 08: 06
      So "debt to the motherland" is only included in the agenda? A volunteer, if shamed, is one thing, but an unserved category B or armored from a sofa is another
      1. -4
        30 September 2022 08: 31
        1. The duty to the Motherland turns on in the head, and the agenda is a notification that she needs you today and now.
        2. The runners run not because they were called, but so that they would not be given a summons ... so they do not care about everything except themselves. Cowards and slugs!
  40. +6
    30 September 2022 08: 01
    Of course, the "runners" must be treated with contempt, and this should be at the level of the State. But there is still an important question - if in Ukraine the oligarchs support their army, the Nazis, then we don’t hear that our oligarchs would help the army, volunteers .... but Abramovich gives phones, feeds their Nazis. The state should also do something about it. It’s bad that the State did not react in any way to Abramovich’s trick, it hits hard on patriotism, especially among young people.
  41. +10
    30 September 2022 08: 03
    The best motivation is personal example. Stalin knew how. And when we see the daughters of VVP with sanitary bags on the front line, and Peskov's son in the red estuary, then we can talk about everyone's duty
  42. +3
    30 September 2022 08: 11
    Quote: R. Skomorokhov
    Although you can not regret it. They are still third-class people now, and not by chance, but by choice.

    Dividing people into classes is not correct, but those who do not give a damn about the Motherland, the Motherland should not care about them either (their names at the border crossing points are fixed). They should no longer study at state universities, hold senior positions in state structures and be elected to government bodies, take part in elections.

    For those who go to defend their homeland, it is necessary to provide for various kinds of preferences in employment and appointment to positions.

    Those who died defending the Motherland and who received the star of the hero should be canceled loans, mortgages, etc. by 100%. Seriously wounded (crippled) - by 75%.
    1. +3
      30 September 2022 09: 54
      Quote: Boris55
      Seriously wounded (crippled) - by 75%.

      But how can a person who has lost his legs repay a loan?
      with a disability? she's so funny...
      how do you easily divide by 100% and 75%
      1. -5
        30 September 2022 10: 00
        Quote: Dedok
        with a disability?

        Following the example of the Russian Guard: the crippled are not fired. Find them a place in the ranks.
        In the RF Ministry of Defense, in my opinion, the same thing.
        I'm not against everyone to forgive everything, but still egalitarianism is not acceptable.
        War invalids should receive increased benefits. Etc..

        Much more can be done, the main thing is that it would be fair.

        ps
        WWII. Maresyev.
        1. +1
          30 September 2022 11: 06
          Quote: Boris55
          Following the example russian guards

          is this the one whose military personnel - terminated contracts - at the very beginning of the NWO?
  43. -1
    30 September 2022 08: 12
    when returning back, show them an invoice and do not let them in until they pay
  44. +2
    30 September 2022 08: 13
    Here, after all, how it works: those who were in the queues at the Georgian border were not averse to having contract soldiers die for them, and even, judging by the reports, they even painted the correct letters on cars. And as they were directly affected, patriotism was gone. The same is now. For example, angry articles are written by someone who does not fall under partial mobilization, but will announce a general one, only they saw him. Volunteers and those who are ALREADY there are another matter. Here is their word weighty, authoritative without reservations.
  45. +1
    30 September 2022 08: 22
    We didn't label this one. The Ministry of Defense does not publish lists of deserters. And these will return and enjoy all the delights of life, and many heroes will not return.
    1. +3
      30 September 2022 09: 52
      Quote: Plowman
      We didn't label this one. The Ministry of Defense does not publish lists of deserters. And these will return and enjoy all the delights of life, and many heroes will not return.

      at the very beginning of the SVO, entire units "teared contracts" and we do not see that they were punished for this - and they are our "professional" defense
  46. 0
    30 September 2022 08: 34
    Thanks Roman for the article, you always have sore, topical articles.
  47. +2
    30 September 2022 08: 35
    The author contradicts himself. One side; let them go. With another; let them pay.
    .
    We need working hands, and the departure of the deviationists is damaging the country. The impotent government cannot cope with these problems. Doesn't want to deal. Their own people, their children, are running away... That's how everyone will run away, then they will tighten the screws for hard workers and Russians.
    Therefore, I cannot approve of the flight and connivance of the authorities in any way. Each one who escaped is a threat to the call and death of MY child already. I cannot forgive such deviationists!
  48. -4
    30 September 2022 08: 51
    Quote: skeptic
    Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Can't you see, cloud

    All the provocativeness of the topic raised is in turning over the meanings of the events taking place. For the whole world, and in Russia itself, it is Russia "AGGRESSOR". It was possible to keep a sufficient number of rapid reaction forces to support the LDNR in case of aggression. The air defense of the Russian Federation could, without crossing the border, make the sky over the LDNR flightless. But what did the whole world see? I do not know to what level of power the foreign agents of the West are sitting, but the invasion was done, in compromising Russia, by 150%. All subsequent events only confirm this. Including the "regrouping" in the Kharkiv region.
    The main difference of the Russian people is a deeply integrated sense of justice. In today's events, it is broken. No one talks about "disregard for the troubles of Donbass", but since the invasion was made, he speaks of a superbly done operation to bring down Russia's peaceful reputation. And this is the main reason for leaving, very many. It is the unwillingness to participate in the global scam of the destruction of Russia, by the thieves' pahanat. There would be no such outflow of the people of Russia if the events began with the invasion of the NATO-led Ukrobandoty in the LDNR. And it would be perceived as a holy war. And there would be no flows abroad, but there would be queues at the military registration and enlistment offices.
    ps You are aware that if Stalin had started a preventive war against Germany, there was an agreement in the West that the United States, England, etc. Would you have sided with Hitler? This happened to Saddam Hussein, this is happening to Russia now.

    I suppose you yourself also consider Russia an aggressor, you can see from the test. So it's not up to you to complain.
  49. -4
    30 September 2022 09: 07
    A rare case when I agree with the author.
  50. -2
    30 September 2022 09: 08
    They are still third class people now


    And this third grade will calmly return to Russia and will live again - do not grieve!
    I immediately had a question, but I just don’t know who to address it to.
    And what, our authorities did not provide for such an option as the desertion of these abroad? Why didn't they close the borders before the announcement of mobilization?
    Something is not right here!
    1. +1
      30 September 2022 21: 48
      And so military registration and enlistment offices and administration buildings are burning all over the country. You want to leave another million here with someone, and so the roof goes from what is happening and they run
  51. +5
    30 September 2022 09: 21
    And how they made fun of Ukrainians fleeing mobilization in February-March....
  52. -1
    30 September 2022 09: 23
    I wonder what nationality the runners are?
    1. +1
      30 September 2022 14: 11
      Kazakhs with Russian passports 50%
      50% - simply those who, using Kazakhstan as a transport hub, want to fly to more civilized visa-free countries, this Kazakhstan was given to them
  53. +6
    30 September 2022 09: 26
    I write only about myself.
    I was born in 1971 and do not consider myself a patriot of _THIS_ country.
    Attitude towards mobilization? Firstly, I’m already 51 years old, I’m flying by. Secondly, I am assigned to the Navy, and with my specific military training, I know when I will be called up and why.
    Why am I not a patriot? _THIS_ government promised me to return my salary for six months and severance pay, but did nothing.
    _THIS_ state deceived me, three times.
    Firstly, it created such conditions that even with a signed employment contract, you can not pay a salary.
    Secondly, they told me that everyone is equal before the law, if you don’t like it, go to court. I went to court, won the case, as if it were a separate song without words, received a writ of execution (a little spoiled), took it to the bailiffs... AND THAT'S ALL. For the first 2 years, 0 rubles 0 kopecks were collected, after two trips to the prosecutor’s office they were “pleased” that my case was consolidated (that is, I would receive salary and other things in the same pile as all investors), and I was paid as much as 600 rubles.
    Thirdly, I have a strong feeling that I gave my former employer an open-ended, interest-free loan. Yes, experts in the Labor Code will now say that there is an article there that talks about paying double the Central Bank rate for each day of delay until the actual payment, but this article is dead, I am sure that not a penny has been recovered from it.
    The only way to get honestly earned money in _THIS_ country is self-immolation on Red Square, and that’s not a fact.
    As a result, it turns out that a businessman can send _THIS_ to the state and it will disappear. Patriotism is approval of the actions of the state, but I don’t want to approve of being robbed.
    Yes, I'm keeping my mouth shut. Because firstly, I work in a government agency and if I make my thoughts public, I will be fired immediately. In the best case scenario, in the worst case, they will also be imprisoned according to modern times.
    Secondly, there is an understanding that if _THIS_ state collapses, then we as a nation will be driven into reservations, and we will work in “dirty” industries and ensure the pumping of resources from our former land for the well-being of the West.
    1. +6
      30 September 2022 09: 37
      You write about the state, and I agree with you in many ways, they don’t want everything. But besides the state there is the Motherland, and these are two different concepts, although within the same boundaries. I don’t care about the state, I will give my life for my Motherland.
      1. +4
        30 September 2022 10: 08
        Dear Sergey. We had a homeland until 1991. And the current state calls itself the Motherland when it wants to rob and deceive the people.
        1. 0
          30 September 2022 18: 45
          For me, the Motherland is what it was, and remains so.
      2. +2
        30 September 2022 10: 33
        Quote: Sergey Valov
        I don’t care about the state, I will give my life for my Motherland.

        The trick here is that the state of parasites will also receive a bonus from your patriotism. Which will also continue to parasitize you with impunity. And what is Motherland? Probably what you see around you is good. But parasites do not belong to this category.
    2. -2
      30 September 2022 12: 13
      Surely it was not the state that promised you, but the employer who cheated you (if what he wrote is true). And the conditions are discussed in the contract. And if the contract was fulfilled on your part, then you need to go to court, and not cry here. If you yourself violated the contract, then there is no need to cry. I don't believe you!
      1. +2
        30 September 2022 14: 30
        Standard conditions, standard employment contract. And it’s good that it was generally according to our realities.
        I actually wrote about the fact that there was a trial. And the decision is generally in my favor (according to statistics, by the way, the case is won in 90% of cases, if there are documents). But then there was a government agency like the Bailiff Service, which fed me breakfast for two years, and only after my repeated complaints to the prosecutor’s office found as much as 600 rubles. Moreover, there was still a circus there, to the point that my former employer was suing (!!!) the bailiffs for assessing property. Like there is money for a lawsuit with the FSSP, but there is no money for my salary. Yes, and finally I handed them over to the tax office. So literally a month later the tax office came to them with an inspection.
        Interest "for using the loan". There is an article in the Labor Code (thanks to the trade unions and Shmakov specifically), but it is written in such a way that it DOES NOT WORK in principle.
        And in general, I don’t like the attitude of business towards TC as a loaf of bread, when only articles that are profitable for business are “picked out” - “you’re fired!!!”
    3. -2
      30 September 2022 21: 07
      People like you, freaks, potential traitors, I say this as a person born in 1969, a retired air defense officer, ready to go if called upon, although my educational qualifications are even worse than what they need. This is my country, my HOMELAND and I don’t give a damn what they didn’t give to who and whether she was right or wrong. I will fight not for Putin, not for the state, but for the MOTHERLAND, for my child, my wife, for my land.
      You, traitors, are all looking for excuses for your cowardice, your envy, hatred of Russia, worship of your masters, we, patriots, are ready to defend our Motherland, as our serf ancestors defended it during the time of the Polish invasion and Napoleon, without looking back.
      1. +1
        30 September 2022 22: 45
        I tell you that when you become closely acquainted with the “dark side” of this life, with the simple fact that _THIS_ state works exclusively in the interests of business, when you see that _THIS_ state does not care about you and your family as little people, then your patriotism is noticeable will decrease.
      2. +1
        1 October 2022 00: 50
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        People like you, freaks, potential traitors, I say this as a person born in 1969, a retired air defense officer, ready to go if called upon, although my educational qualifications are even worse than what they need. This is my country, my HOMELAND and I don’t give a damn what they didn’t give to who and whether she was right or wrong. I will fight not for Putin, not for the state, but for the MOTHERLAND, for my child, my wife, for my land.
        You, traitors, are all looking for excuses for your cowardice, your envy, hatred of Russia, worship of your masters, we, patriots, are ready to defend our Motherland, as our serf ancestors defended it during the time of the Polish invasion and Napoleon, without looking back.

        And that NATO troops invaded Russian territory? And we are already protecting our home and our families? There is a civil war going on, where Russians are killing Russians, to the applause of the arrogant Saxons. The war, a consequence of the bourgeois coup of 91-93, overtook the country from that time. This couldn’t help but happen. Empires don’t just die that way. Many people have the feeling that this is not their country, especially remembering galoshes. The territory of the outskirts is, as it were, ours, but those at the top admitted that this was not the case and did not stop Nazism in the 14th. That is why they attracted a limited contingent, only professionals. They also figure out something there. Retirement age is just that, they’ve worn themselves out, and then there’s war. The conscripts should have motivation. And no matter how you set an example, they don’t throw their own people... into the heat.
        They will come, we will fight side by side, for the house, for the wife, for the child, for the land.
        PS: The Air Defense VUS is the most vital in the Northern Military District.
    4. -2
      30 September 2022 22: 02
      Why are you suffering? Go to the blessed West.
  54. +3
    30 September 2022 09: 29
    There would be little use at the front, if they were not able to escape abroad now, these would still be of little use. Moreover, such people would surrender to the Banderaites without firing a single shot at the first opportunity. And here you go, the SBU is already yelling at the whole world and showing how Russians in batches are going over to the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. I would like to say to those fleeing their homeland in a difficult time:
    We did not ask to love Russia.
    Your dislike for Russia is not a problem.
    If you don't like Russia:
    There is a three-letter road, gentlemen!
    It is obvious that hundreds of thousands of those who fled, either to Georgia or to Kazakhstan, after Russia’s victory in the Northern Military District will begin to return to Russia, while making impudent faces that the neighbor guys, whom they always called “scoops,” did not return from the front in Ukraine defending Russia, Here they are, back from Kazakhstan or Georgia. And besides, they will ask the question with ambition - so which of us are the suckers here?
    This entire public needs to be shaken harshly now. They don’t like Russia and such people are of little use at the front. Only betrayal. But mining coal in the mines and knitting mittens and sewing army uniforms in workshops near Magadan is just for such people. You just need to slightly correct the articles of the Criminal Code.
    And in Karelia, Russian voices will again be heard at the logging sites, because it’s time to drive away the Finns from there, who are simply exporting timber from Russia for nothing. You see, it will work out for everyone and with benefit. But not at the front. From those at the front is like milk from a goat!
    1. -1
      30 September 2022 21: 09
      We put machine guns behind us and throw these nonentities into the attack with shovels. Banderlogs don’t need them to feed these evil spirits, no one needs traitors.
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    1. 0
      30 September 2022 10: 17
      The idea is interesting, but when they want to return, then “fine battalions” will not be needed. :)
      Deprive of citizenship and property.
      1. +6
        30 September 2022 10: 38
        Quote: valentin light
        Deprive of citizenship and property.

        Oh, how. And those who built Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok, those who said that there would be no revision of the results of privatization, those who allowed many productions to be finished off in the 2000s, those who gave the West 300 billion of the money earned by the people, those who lied to us about brilliant prospects and under This record robbed the country, those who optimized everything so that now when the war came, it turned out that we were not ready for it, although they lied to us that they were ready. What are we going to do with them? And I don’t need fairy tales about horses at the crossing. These horses will drown you if you don’t change them.
  56. -2
    30 September 2022 09: 36
    But it seems to me that they are not tightening the screws, because they are releasing their majors. It’s unlikely that ordinary people have such a parachute to survive in a foreign land. The higher-level offspring may have already been issued a reservation, but the borders have been slightly opened for the middle ones. But this is of course my hypothesis. And I would be glad to be wrong
    1. +3
      30 September 2022 10: 43
      Quote: Foundling
      But it seems to me that they are not tightening the screws, because they are releasing their majors. It’s unlikely that ordinary people have such a parachute to survive in a foreign land. The higher-level offspring may have already been issued a reservation, but the borders have been slightly opened for the middle ones. But this is of course my hypothesis. And I would be glad to be wrong

      Most likely there are a whole bunch of reasons. They don't want to irritate society. Even their own people are fleeing. Those who escaped were against mobilization, which means those who escaped are lowering the degree of protest in society. Again, we are demonstrating that we have a democratic country and a normal attitude towards people, and not a morbid gulag.
  57. +4
    30 September 2022 09: 46
    Very naive. Gloat at someone else's expense.
    Even at VO somehow there were no volunteers or returnees.
    And the agenda is also somehow very little.

    Moreover, before our eyes is an example of the “elite” - those who left, then returned, then lived there, then live...
    And no articles, for example, about Medvedev’s son from America, about money, transfers, cars, funds, real estate, business, yachts..

    People left. There was no law against leaving. Foreign companies are exporting Russian employees, they write, almost by plane. They will want to return.. - money, connections, knowledge, real estate, clans, property - everything will remain with them. No one even stuttered or stuttered, but what about the property of the oligarchs living over the hill?

    And the same people who lobbied for iPhones, Nanos, Boeings, having changed their shoes, will teach everyone to live and write as they hate....
    1. -3
      30 September 2022 21: 09
      You look at yourself, and not at the elite, do not look for an excuse for your cowardice. Be responsible for yourself.
    2. 0
      30 September 2022 22: 27
      Quote: Max1995
      No one even stuttered or stuttered, but what about the property of the oligarchs living over the hill?

      Well, all of Europe reported at the end of spring that it had blocked all the real estate and yachts of the oligarchs
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  59. +3
    30 September 2022 09: 47
    The recipe is simple, it was invented and written by R. Harline in Starship Troopers: full citizenship is only for those who have served their Motherland. So it is here: loss of rights, a ban on civil service, a ban on any dealings with government agencies, a ban on participation in government procurement, and a special tax on the army.
    1. +1
      30 September 2022 14: 34
      Hylan himself wrote that Starship Troopers was conceived by him as a satire on a militaristic society. But apparently not everyone can understand this) The society you described is completely ineffective from the point of view of development
  60. +8
    30 September 2022 10: 06
    For 30 years, our “elite” built a state that would owe nothing to the people. And now they grabbed it, and they started shouting: “You are obliged!!!” Well, those whom they raised showed how they relate to their responsibilities.
    1. +2
      30 September 2022 14: 36
      Exactly. The entire society understands perfectly well how the “elite” lives and at whose expense. Go to war and die when the “elite” will valiantly work “on the ground” in safety? Where is it supposedly needed most? No thanks! A normal person would not agree to this
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    1. -1
      30 September 2022 12: 21
      Here is the answer of a pseudo-patriot who loves his ass and spends everything he earns on it. A true American "democrat", i.e. I agree that democracy is American power over all peoples. wassat
      1. 0
        30 September 2022 14: 39
        Here is the answer to "Zombie", whose brains were eaten out by propaganda. Which is used by the so-called "elite" in black. Which this so-called "elite" laughs at. But he still believes in an abstract IDEA or STATE, which have long been gone
    2. -1
      30 September 2022 14: 29
      Are you already writing from enlightened Europe?
    3. -2
      30 September 2022 14: 38
      Totally agree with you. It's always surprising to see healthy comments on this site)
  62. 0
    30 September 2022 10: 13
    The most unpleasant thing is that these “fugitives” will later return and will again indicate how to “live correctly”, as if nothing had happened.
    It is probably right to deprive them of citizenship and the right to own land.
    1. +2
      30 September 2022 13: 27
      It is necessary to deprive the “fugitives” of citizenship, land, and property together with United Russia officials who have dual citizenship, deposits and real estate abroad and relatives living in the European Union, Britain, the USA and other countries that are Russia’s opponents.
      Then everything will be fair and according to the law.
    2. -1
      30 September 2022 14: 49
      Given the current situation, they will definitely not return. They will live in normal and civilized countries. And be surprised at the morals of the “savages”
  63. AB
    +6
    30 September 2022 10: 17
    When the Second World War began, the people, and first of all the communists (not like United Russia), went in droves to the military registration and enlistment offices. Many asked to go to the front, but they were not allowed to go, as if someone had to work. What is their difference from those who are running now? To a huge extent, the people of that generation saw how the gains of October were being realized and they went to defend them. Not so much for yourself, but for future generations. They saw how the Bolsheviks kept their promises and knew that things would get better. Their children and grandchildren will be better off. Modern generations do not have such a beacon of hope on the horizon, they only have abstract “patriotism” and “For the Motherland,” and “Grandfathers fought,” and all this against the background of the policy “Your problems are not ours” and “the state did not ask you to give birth.” They have no need to fight and personally it doesn’t surprise me that they are saving the last thing they have left - their own skin.
    1. -1
      30 September 2022 12: 24
      You say correctly - these are selfish people who have made their selfish future out of the mistakes of the past, instead of changing the bad situation of the country for the better. But no matter where they go, they will be second-class citizens.
      1. -3
        30 September 2022 14: 51
        “But wherever they go, they will be second-class citizens.” Treat yourself with illusions))) A competent IT specialist feels great anywhere in the world. And he doesn’t give a damn what marginalized people think about him
      2. +1
        1 October 2022 01: 16
        Quote: Vlad5307
        You say correctly - these are selfish people who have made their selfish future out of the mistakes of the past, instead of changing the bad situation of the country for the better. But no matter where they go, they will be second-class citizens.

        An attempt to change the “bad situation of the country” will be suppressed with all cruelty. These do not see themselves as passionaries, the alternative is drape. And these people will not be second class, they know how to make money. Unless it comes, "change the bad situation of the country" wassat
  64. 0
    30 September 2022 10: 26
    The main problem is that now there is no clear idea of ​​where the very Motherland for which one could give one’s life begins. And for many in Russia it clearly begins not in the annexed territories, but on the borders of 1991. So they run away, because life is the most valuable thing for a person and no piece of land is worth it.
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  66. +1
    30 September 2022 10: 41
    They forgot to tell us about the sons of a united Russia, who serves where and how they fight. To complete the picture. There are fewer and fewer idiots in Russia, and this is good news.
  67. 0
    30 September 2022 10: 46
    Quote: 1939_1940
    The people who leave are simply much smarter than you.

    A freshly roasted (15.09.22/XNUMX/XNUMX) rat from the Ukrop TsIPSO is a success on this type of patriotic site. Dang, crap...
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    1. 0
      30 September 2022 12: 29
      Military commissars in many places have become lazy - the position is “grain”, there is no point in moving. But there is no need to generalize to the whole country, there is someone to replace such people - the time has come and the pace of change is rapidly accelerating. The country's legislation needs to be revised to comply with wartime. You need to be prepared not only with the help of vigorous loaves. soldier
    2. +1
      30 September 2022 14: 35
      I’m 53 and also have a mobile order. It’s just almost unreadable anymore. In order to remove us from the register, the military registration and enlistment office is obliged to send us through a commission. I remember my father passing before the removal. There was nothing for them to collect a commission for those subject to removal
  69. +3
    30 September 2022 11: 02
    Over the thirty years of Russian “independence”, at least three generations have grown up believing that they do not owe anyone anything.

    Well, this was somehow a completely natural reaction to a state that had cheated its population - leaving 100500 state employees, miners, workers, military personnel, teachers and highly qualified specialists with higher education without salaries, benefits and jobs. Because the collapse of the USSR was precisely a “scam,” when, having all the levers of power and the results of the referendum (which we now so stubbornly cling to on every occasion), we let go of our empire “from the master’s shoulder,” and the person who actually “gave up Crimea without battle" in 1991, not only did he deceive his own population more than a dozen times looking him in the eye ("there will be no default (c)"), he also posthumously retains the center of his name - despite all these "facts in the world of the galaxy "and the fact that now, in essence, the state is patching up the shoals of his hilarious idiotic policy. Tell me - where is the real human logic in this scheme? Do we still, like the Bolsheviks, think that we can push people over and over again and they will forget everything and tomorrow there will be a “new day”? No, it doesn’t happen like that - now there are books, these Internets of yours - people remember everything, both in facts and at the level of the collective unconscious.
    You know what the thing is - what goes around comes around. The way the state treated its responsibilities towards people is how people in a significant mass will treat the state. After the EBN, people were also promised a lot, very very much. a lot - and the “plan 2020” was all so epic and in gold - and where, where is all this? So it’s quite natural that people no longer want promises and get involved in obscure movements that have no end. This does not bring them "evolutionary benefit". You can go on and on about “consumerism” as much as you like, but the life of each of us is built on making a profit - plants don’t grow where the sun doesn’t shine, a person dies if his calorie balance goes into the minus, etc.
    The long-term vague state policy brought practically no benefits to people - and they naturally stopped connecting their aspirations with the state, looking for a “little hole somewhere” for themselves.
    And what is happening now is not some kind of “terrible and immoral” but simply a logical continuation of cause-and-effect chains. We reap what we sow.

    Only in a fairy tale can you make soup from an axe!

    However, even though the Constitution says that “a person, his rights and freedoms are the highest value”

    Are they? There’s a lot of stuff written there, but we regularly see that it can be “very flexibly interpreted.” If flexible interpretation is allowed to the state, why is it not permissible for a person? War has not been declared - there is no martial law - and these people are calmly crossing the borders through which they are calmly allowed to pass. Why not a flexible interpretation?
    As soon as the wagging of the tail ends with the inversion of the law of one side, this behavior of the other will also end. Everything is interconnected, isn't it?
  70. +2
    30 September 2022 11: 03
    Why be surprised and condemn?
    “fugitives” behave exactly the same way as the “Russian elite”, which for years has been siphoning billions of dollars offshore, buying up luxury real estate, and taking families for permanent residence....

    If you want to judge, then you need to judge everyone, but first of all the officials who are still sitting at the levers of power, having dual citizenship, deposits in Western banks and children in London...
    Until the Russian government, completely mired in corruption, cleans itself, there will be no harmony in society....
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    1. +2
      30 September 2022 12: 02
      98000 Russians are the official data of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Kazakhstan
  73. +4
    30 September 2022 11: 25
    Quote: Region-25.rus
    All these businessmen, IT people and other human scum.
    i.e., as I understand it IT people Is this a priori “human scum”? Those. working in the field of information technology 100% traitor and scum? Well... congratulations. .

    In short, the author should have written more briefly - “you need to take everything and just divide it”...
    When “IT specialists” and engineers are a scum, there is no need to whine about the small number of high-precision weapons and people who could skillfully use them.
    1. -1
      30 September 2022 14: 53
      Finally a sensible comment. Unfortunately, there are fewer and fewer healthy people in Russia. That is why there remain those for whom the “cause-and-effect relationship” does not work.
  74. +4
    30 September 2022 11: 33
    But for such an amount of money thrown into the economy of other countries, it is necessary to punish.

    Somehow I didn’t see anyone punished for Russian money “frozen” in the West.
  75. +3
    30 September 2022 11: 40
    Author, I hope you are writing an article from the front or do you have any services to the country during the war? If so, then I apologize...
  76. -5
    30 September 2022 12: 08
    All deserters will be deprived of the right to vote and be elected, the right to take part in referendums, to hold any positions in municipal and state authorities, the opportunity to work at state-owned enterprises, taxes of all types paid by the employer for such workers will be increased significantly. Also a ban on private economic activity, such little people might. only by hired workers.
    1. +4
      30 September 2022 12: 39
      First of all, you should find out how a deserter differs from a potential draft dodger... Are you writing nonsense from the front yourself?
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  78. -1
    30 September 2022 13: 19
    Immediately after the mobilization was announced, I observed an explosion of crobots in all social networks and forums. Including on topware. Especially the last couple of days.
    Tsipso apparently just rebuilt a new building and brought computers.
  79. +1
    30 September 2022 13: 32
    What does wet pants mean? author-->author-->author apparently writes from the trenches?? Excuse me, you have to be able to fight, and why should a conventional mechanic do this when they don’t do it > 100 officers who were actually trained in this and after many years paid their salary from the taxes of the same mechanic?
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  81. +3
    30 September 2022 14: 04
    Quote: skeptic
    Quote: qqqq
    The war would have started anyway, only on conditions unfavorable for Russia

    What could be more profitable than the fact that my homeland is called a country - “Aggressor”?

    Yes, being full of everything can be unprofitable. The Ukronatsik would torture our people not in Donbass, but in Belgorod. The United States does not care who calls them what, the interests of the United States are more important to them, and rightly so.
    Now our military are captured, tortured, die, all for the sake of it. so that the citizens of Ukraine won’t think badly if we bomb power plants there.
    One can understand Peskov’s son who does not want to participate in this. By the way, is he in the Russian Federation or has he left? Why did journalists forget about him, like all the children of officials?
  82. +1
    30 September 2022 14: 05
    Quote: your vsr 66-67
    They are still third class people now


    And this third grade will calmly return to Russia and will live again - do not grieve!
    I immediately had a question, but I just don’t know who to address it to.
    And what, our authorities did not provide for such an option as the desertion of these abroad? Why didn't they close the borders before the announcement of mobilization?
    Something is not right here!

    Where are the children and grandchildren of the authorities themselves? On the front line from the first day of the Northern Military District?
  83. 0
    30 September 2022 14: 29
    As one lady said to her sister, leave, the air will be cleaner without you.
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  85. 0
    30 September 2022 14: 59
    All this has been the policy of our state since the collapse of the USSR from every corner: make money, make money - you are an entrepreneur and a businessman, money was elevated to the rank of national policy and everyone made money, some through criminal means, some plowed like Papa Carlo, some plowed with he stole, everyone made money, that’s the whole ideology. And now, when there are sanctions, many companies in the IT sector have left for Georgia, since in Russia the West blocked their sphere, and in Georgia they work even against Russia, they sold their country for money, just as in the 1990s they sold our country to the hunchbacked and drunkard spruce (the earth is glassy to them) and since then we have been constantly sold and betrayed, but what do we want if our helmsmen have two citizenships, and their children live and work in NATO countries, while they can make independent decisions aimed at improving life of the country and the people, but no matter how, they make all decisions under the dictation of their Western partners. This is why many do not trust our government, but in fact there are many reasons for this. And those who should fight should be those who received good money for it, professionals, but for some reason many of them fled as soon as the war came. We live under the bourgeoisie, which means there’s nothing personal, just money...
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    1. 0
      30 September 2022 18: 24
      Why do we need citizens who do not want to fulfill their direct civic responsibilities? In addition to the rights, all citizens of Russia without exception have the sacred duty to defend their Motherland; whoever does not want to do this cannot be a full-fledged citizen of Russia, and even less so has no right to any preferences in the future, let them forget about public service, leadership positions, business and much more, for such characters this would be normal practice on the part of our state.
    2. -1
      1 October 2022 11: 28
      Why the hell did a bunch of security officials in the country, both active and retired at 40, surrender to us. It is their direct duty to defend their homeland. Instead, they decided to send to the front those who had only seen the machine gun in pictures on the Internet.
  90. -3
    30 September 2022 18: 21
    When entering Russia, at the border checkpoint, take them by the gills and put a brand on their forehead, like they put on horses - “10”. This means condemnation by the Motherland of the deserter and imprisonment in places of development on Novaya Zemlya for this period.
  91. 0
    30 September 2022 18: 21
    Quote: Million
    I wonder what nationality the runners are?

    Deserter.
  92. 0
    30 September 2022 18: 35
    How yes how? Yes, cultivate and promote public censure, ignorance and all sorts of difficulties in life for such cowardice. One hell of a coward, hataskrayniks and peresedeltsev are far away and there are never any worthy members of society - she’s a riffraff and trash in Africa. So act accordingly.
  93. +2
    30 September 2022 18: 42
    The logical result of building a financial-oligarchic state, with elements of feudalism.
    We didn’t expect anything else. It’s a pity that many have only now begun to see the light. If they started at all...
  94. +1
    30 September 2022 20: 24
    Dear Roman!
    There is a lot of information about “runners” towards Georgia and Kazakhstan in the media!
    Is there any information about the actions of the Ministry of Defense in terms of working with the “five hundredths”?
    Only now on the SolovyovLaf channel I heard that units of the Russian army entered Donbass with a wild shortage of officers! The contract workers refused to participate in the SVO.
    But September 20 came. Partial mobilization was announced.
    Where are these “five hundredths” who refused?
    What are they doing???
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  96. 0
    30 September 2022 21: 01
    It is necessary to pass a law to deprive these monsters of their rights, at least electoral rights, as well as the non-extension of labor legislation to such people, then a ban on the export of more than $100, and a lifetime increase in personal income tax to 50%. Traitors must be punished. Never mind, the Kazakhs will show them what Nazism is in action.
    1. +1
      1 October 2022 01: 22
      Excuse me, are you coming up with these ideas from the front now? Or are you not allowed to go to the front - others have to die?
  97. 0
    30 September 2022 21: 23
    The mold will run away. The healthy ones will remain.
  98. 0
    30 September 2022 22: 01
    It’s kind of stupid to discuss the fate of worms after taking an anthelmintic.))
  99. 0
    30 September 2022 23: 28
    At least some benefit from the Kazakh nationalists.
    They don't even need the money of our fugitives. They will harass them until they go home.
    But here they can be used as a catch, without sending them to the front.
    Someone must dig trenches or graves for the Benderaites.

    PS Kazakhs cost three skins for housing. Even in Moscow, in a residential area, there are no such high prices.
    It’s strange that “our” fellow countrymen didn’t rush to Egypt, where for $100 you can rent 50 m2 with all the amenities. Utilities are included in the rent.
    Now many Europeans live there, the prices are ridiculous, and it’s always warm.
  100. 0
    1 October 2022 01: 29
    Why go to the front? For the state? So it didn’t ask to give birth to me. But for some reason he urges me to go kill and die. VV Putin swore and promised in March that there would be no mobilization. So what happened? Everything is in place. The Minister of Defense has a satisfied face. And even without the traditional one, get into position. No, let the government first turn its face to the people and repent for all the years of robbery and charity. And only then he is sent to the front. Well, if not, then Russia will remain in any case. For power, defeat is death. And for Russia, another moment in a thousand-year history