In the Iranian press: Our drones, controlled by the great army of Russia, are destroying NATO strongholds in Odessa

Yesterday's attacks by Russian UAVs on military facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, observed in a number of areas of the independent region, caused a nervous reaction in Kyiv and riveted the close attention of observers who were trying to figure out the tactics of using drones.

Based on the available video materials, it is concluded that two types of UAVs are used. Shahed-136 (Russian designation - "Geran-2") acted as a strike force. It was their flight that was captured in numerous shots. Data Drones are identified by the design of the hull in the form of a "flying wing" and a special buzzing sound made during movement.

_{Shahed-136 at the military parade of the Houthis, Yemen, September 2022}

At the same time, the question arose about the features of the Shahed-136 guidance. The situation cleared up after the Ukrainian side published footage with the Qods Mohajer-6 drone, which, according to the Ukrainian side, was found in sea waters and taken in tow after a probable air defense hit. According to a number of observers, Mohajer-6 took part in the raid on military facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Odessa as a spotter, working in tandem with his strike "partner": he maintained contact with the Shahed-136 attack drones, providing them with additional target designation. Whether "Gerani-2" needs this "additional target designation" is a separate question.

Both drones were developed in Iran. Judging by the fact that their mass use at the front began, the arsenals of the Russian army were seriously replenished with such drones, becoming a new unexpected challenge for the Ukrainian military.

In the meantime, the following article appeared in the Iranian edition of Sabereen News:

Our drones, controlled by the great Russian army, are destroying NATO strongholds in Odessa.

Recall that on the eve of one of the strikes loitering ammunition in the area of ​​the port of Odessa was inflicted on the base of high-speed boats, as well as marine drones supplied by one of the NATO countries - presumably Britain. And the Iranian publication frankly writes that the confrontation in Ukraine is a confrontation between Russia and the North Atlantic military bloc.

Comments

[Dmitry Karabanov]

Let's hope that Iran has a lot more "delicious" things that ours can use against Ukroreich! Here "each bast - in a line"!

[Silver99]

The effect of the use of kamikaze drones was noticeable even in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, it is a pity that we did not understand this and wasted time. Iran is just incomparable thugs, under sanctions they made excellent modern weapons, albeit with elements of plagiarism from Israel and the United States (from their captured ones), but very good. Now it's our turn to dig and beat him in TTD.

[AleksT]

Quote from Silver99

Iran is just incomparable thugs, under the sanctions they made excellent modern weapons,

They simply do not have oligarchs who withdraw money from the country for yachts, villas ..

[Gorygor]

Quote from Aleks

Quote from Silver99

Iran is just incomparable thugs, under the sanctions they made excellent modern weapons,

They simply do not have oligarchs who withdraw money from the country for yachts, villas ..

They do not have managers whose wives and children live in the US and the EEC

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from Gorygor

They do not have managers whose wives and children live in the US and the EEC

What is this from? The Iranian Foreign Minister's son married John Kerry's daughter. Generally family. Here there is -
https://dandorfman.livejournal.com/1055615.html

[ilya.muromczev2013]

And we have so many of them that it’s just the fear of the Lord? :)...

[gsev]

Quote from Gorygor

They do not have managers whose wives and children live in the US and the EEC

In Iran, the guards of the Islamic revolution simply do not allow the local Abramoviches and Chubais to carry out their policies.

[sergo1914]

Quote from Aleks

Quote from Silver99

Iran is just incomparable thugs, under the sanctions they made excellent modern weapons,

They simply do not have oligarchs who withdraw money from the country for yachts, villas ..

I saw the word "palace" in the dots. It seemed?

[ilya.muromczev2013]

Uh-huh, uh-huh... With a golden gate and a double-headed eagle from Montenegro :). You just want to believe in fakes so much that soon, not only in ellipsis, but everywhere it will start to seem :)...

[nordscout]

"sergo1914!" They say that it is necessary to be baptized when it seems, otherwise it will not be such a "imagined" .... Especially in such a difficult time of building a "multipolar world" ....

[sniperino]

Quote: sergo1914

I saw the word "palace" in the dots. It seemed?

The palace is locked up. All palaces seem to you.

[Zagrebun]

And what a wonderful weapon they nailed under the sanctions of the DPRK ...

[N3onMiami]

And which one?
Are you talking about primitive ICBMs from the 60s?

[Gorygor]

Quote from Silver99

The effect of the use of kamikaze drones was noticeable even in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, it is a pity that we did not understand this and wasted time. Iran is just incomparable thugs, under sanctions they made excellent modern weapons, albeit with elements of plagiarism from Israel and the United States (from their captured ones), but very good. Now it's our turn to dig and beat him in TTD.

If Iran is ready to supply us with this device in large quantities, why should we dig, surpass, etc.? Isn't it better to spend resources in another direction?

[Amper]

So we already spent on tank biathlon, a Ferris wheel, fireworks, vineyards ... Drones are somehow not grandiose, we decided that we don’t need it. Here is Armata - it looks! They swelled on her.

[nordscout]

Do not touch the "holy" (tank biathlon, Ferris wheel, city days, salutes and fireworks). and even before the "Army 2022" - a stone's throw ... Everything is going according to plan. Capitalism requires liberal thoughts, the flow of money into the appropriate pockets, into accounts, forums, media advertising .... Have you forgotten what country we live in? Correctly! In a country of capitalism under construction with a face more like a goat's face, which they are trying to convince us of, saying that domestic capitalism is being built with a "human face" and in the paradigm of a "welfare state" ..... Although ...

[Amper]

Capitalism, in principle, cannot have a human face. For its main goal is profit, the struggle (destruction) of competitors, i.e. deprivation of the livelihood of a competitor, his family, his employees, etc. All fairy tales about the "advanced" system are for the naive and illiterate

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from Silver99

Iran is just incomparable thugs, under sanctions they made excellent modern weapons, albeit with elements of plagiarism from Israel and the United States (from their captured ones), but very good.

They have difficulties with aviation, and therefore they have focused on the development of missiles and drones for various purposes, in which, admittedly, they have succeeded quite well.

Quote from Silver99

Now it's our turn to dig and beat him in TTD.

We have that, but with mass production, in order to stamp them in the required quantities, it doesn’t matter yet. Along the way, Iran has established production and they stamp them like pies. In principle, while the process is getting better in our country, why not take ready-made ones from Iran, especially since they have not proven themselves badly.

[Luenkov]

Don't waste time... don't. *))) The Armenian conflict only proved what was needed

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

Let's hope that Iran has a lot more "delicious" things, .... "!

Iran has its own scores with NATO, the US and all that company.
Iranian drones ---- this is not only sales and profit for them, this is their revenge!

[free]

Probably now Iranian publics and people are rejoicing and overwhelmed with pride. Thanks to the guys for the supplies and for public recognition, despite the protests of the Ukrainians, it's nice when there are countries that put on the opinion of the West

[Lykases1]

But I, for some reason, just as happy for Iran, upset for Russia. How did it happen? Where are our drones? Hasn't it time to plant someone for a long time? Well, I can't believe we can have missiles, airplanes, submarines. But drones are not given.

[alexey alexeyev_2]

One has already been imprisoned. Borisov Yu. In the chair of the head of Roskosmos. He was the armaments curator in the government.

[Agarkov]

Yes, there is, and there will be a lot - a lot. But we must understand that this is not a panacea.

[Herman 4223]

We have drones, of different calibers, so to speak, they were even tested in Syria even before the start of our own, but someone clearly sabotaged mass production.

[isv000]

Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

Let's hope that Iran has a lot more "delicious" things that ours can use against Ukroreich! Here "each bast - in a line"!

The Persians also need to test equipment in combat conditions, even if they drag it, but more!

[boni592807]

Dmitry Karabanov (Dmitry). Today, 18:41. NEW - "... Let's hope that Iran has a lot of other "delicious" things that ours can use against the Ukroreich! Here "each bast is in a line"!..."

You're right. that's not the point. Who said. who. What did you do - Iran helped the UAV and VERY on time
And someone from the "fraternal" (CSTO and SCO) is consulting on sanctions with the United States and joint exercises on the "fight against terrorism."
Draw timely conclusions. instead of waiting - "it wasn't. it wasn't and AGAIN!!!"
Also ina survey on the next "Novorossiyan" of these "flexible brothers". in terms of age, they are suitable for partial mobilization, mainly from 18 to 45 years old, i.e. l ​​/ s s / s up to 35 years old. Нcalculation of combat experience with a stretch of the answer in the reports of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB for the Russian Federation. but. with a high degree of probability from service in the countries where THEY came from. to the illegal armed formations - who from checked. Unfortunately, they are reporting ALREADY in fact. By the way, there is citizenship. consequently, the OBLIGATION to serve and to be CALLED, too, incl. to PARTIAL M... - "Citizens UNDERSTAND THEM!!!". If again "I'm not going. I don't understand" - No question - Go home at your own expense and the diaspora to be deprived of benefits. Enough freebies. time to work!!!
Example - Ggermany. when the "darling" Frau Merkel was photographed with a migrant. And then his portfolio of "combat days" appeared in the media in I-G-g-i-l.
As a supplement - 24.09.2022. 01: 30.
CITIZENSHIP IN EXCHANGE FOR PARTICIPATION IN THE NWO - READY? MIGRANTS RESPONDED FAIRLY - https://TSARGRAD.TV/NEWS/GRAZHDANSTVO-V-OBMEN-NA-UCHASTIE-V-SVO-GOTOVY-MIGRANTY-OTVETILI-OTKROVENNO_631273
"... In the very near future The Moscow government is going to deploy a full-fledged infrastructure in the Sakharovo multifunctional migration center to ensure the enrollment of visitors from other countries to serve in the Russian army, Mayor of the capital Sergei Sobyanin reported.
This center was visited by the correspondent of the "First Russian" Daria Yushchenko. She went on air and told what she managed to learn about the beginning of this work.
At present, the institutions have not yet opened on the basis, but special reception points for foreigners are already being formed, wishing to join the Russian special operation in Ukraine.
Employees shared that people had already come and asked what documents were needed. That is There is some interest in this possibility. But, for example, on September 22, only five people applied with such a question. A Sk.-ko. how many million-OV They are only in Moscow!? As in the USSR. were. before "the year of service NE understand. and after - NE is supposed to!"
Before the broadcast, we walked around the territory of the IMC and asked around from foreign citizens from Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, whether they are ready to go and fight for Russia in exchange for a Russian passport. The answer is: "This is not our battle, this is not our homeland, and we are not ready to participate." I tell everything as it is, - summed up Daria Yushchenko ... "
Under the curtain. Iran. Thanks. а topics. who "successfully mastered. created unparalleled" UAVs in the Russian Federation and who has enough of THEM(One "pepper" said). Check the financial intelligence and the FSB. if by age "enough" then in the economic platoon in the troops in part. to "improve" qualifications and receive "thanks" from colleagues in the process of service .... It stimulates a lot to increase responsibility.
Something like this. ...

[volodimer]

Before the broadcast, we walked around the territory of the IMC and asked foreign citizens from Uzbekistan and Tajikistan if they were ready to go and fight for Russia in exchange for a Russian passport. The answer is: "This is not our battle, this is not our homeland, and we are not ready to participate."

Let them ask this question all the time. Not yours... Well, we don't need you here either. Home to sunny Tajikistan, where Russian guys from the Moscow border detachment were dying. There is your battle, your homeland.
He will say that he is ready, then .. But it is not at all necessary to mobilize, we will figure it out without them, but a check for "lice" must be done.
I understand that the migration service has that reputation (formalism, corruption), but maybe it's time to start working on this almshouse.
And now, in place of the 300000 mobilized, they will launch the same number of ISIS fighters here. And the FSB and the Russian Guard are already up to their necks.
It's as if in 1941 the USSR would replace those who went to the front with guest workers from the manchuria, because they were also under the Republic of Ingushetia.
About the Iranians .. As many have already noted: Well done and the Road is a spoon for dinner. But the fact that we have a complete lack of production in the presence of developments, of course ... you can’t do without mats.
Best regards

[Dead duck]

In the same states, this has been practiced for a long time (service in exchange for a passport or benefits for studying and entering educational institutions).
The fact that "not our war" - 24 hours "suitcase-station" is not your homeland, no one is holding it.
CSTO, SCO and others - you can attract the same Iran (as well as the Syrians), and the Serbs did not refuse to remember the old NATO, the infantry will not be superfluous.

[iouris]

Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

Let's hope that Iran has a lot more "delicious" things

And no one else. They relied on their own ... and - on you!

[SSR]

Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

Let's hope that Iran has a lot more "delicious" things that ours can use against Ukroreich! Here "each bast - in a line"!

Maybe China will also remember the United States of the last war and transfer part of its weapons to the Russian Federation for full-scale tests? MLRS, UAVs, etc. You can send specialists for a run-in against the United States.

[Boycott]

Iranians burn with napalm! They write without jiggling and call a spade a spade, that's five.

[invisible_man]

And why should they be ashamed? They are in conflict with the United States and have long been subject to all possible sanctions.

[isv000]

Good technique. A truck is driving itself, not touching anyone, it slowed down at the cafe ... They shot back and - to the base, for a new "cargo" ...

[sir.jonn]

Quote: isv000

They shot back and - to the base, for a new "cargo

Yes, with their range, you can shoot from the base, just bring new batches.

[isv000]

Quote: sir.jonn

Yes, with their range, you can shoot from the base, just bring new batches.

There is no cafe...

[sir.jonn]

Quote: isv000

There is no cafe...

But the kitchen and the cook are hot blood and milk . And it's time to forget the cafe and other dregs!
Our everything:
The fire beats in a cramped stove
On the logs there is tar, like a tear,
And the harmony sings to me in the dugout
About your smile and eyes.

[belovvladimir]

The fact that NATO will be deadly is already a plus for us, there is no place for ukrofascism in the world, everything that is not done for the good of the world will always be supported by the world!

[AAK]

But where, damn it, are OUR like "unparalleled in the world"? After all, there is nothing particularly complicated here ... colleagues write the truth that topics where it was impossible to "rise on a rollback" when purchasing over a hillock were simply strangled in the bud by our generals and officials from the defense industry ... I hope that at least someday be The first will wake up the remnants of his conscience and officer honor in order to distribute "earrings to all sisters" ... but still, those who say that once in power any person becomes "ALIEN" are more likely right ...

[Plate]

There was even a scientific study on this topic. It seems that those in power, they wrote there, mirror neurons stop working. Empathy and sympathy are cut down. Well, it's understandable. When you are responsible for millions of people, empathize with everyone - the roof will go completely, so such a protective mechanism is logical. But, nevertheless, we must bear this in mind.

[sir.jonn]

Quote: Plate

Well, it's understandable

The surgeon also does not sincerely sympathize.

[laws70]

The deputy on the rear has been replaced, they are waiting for landings.

[Goffman]

It is unlikely that the zampotylu was related to the development of weapons. The military-industrial complex responsible for all these developments was controlled by Borisov. He was simply transferred to steer Roscosmos. I don’t know if China or Iran would have dug up something for him for such work, but it seems that they are really using their financial resources there for their intended purpose.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Gofman

The military-industrial complex responsible for all these developments was ruled by Borisov

Actually, the defense industry develops what the MO orders for it. So both of them need to be shaken up. The Ministry of Defense does not order the necessary, and the OPK is engaged in "shifts to the right"

[Goffman]

Well, how did he develop what he ordered, or did he only take models and single copies to exhibitions so far? PS I see a clarification, I agree.

[free]

How I agree with you, with armata and kurgan, just as they spent the money allocated for development, the project died out. The other day they appointed a new deputy commander, they say he will put things in order, if so, patience and will to him

[Gorygor]

Quote: Free

How I agree with you, with armata and kurgan, just as they spent the money allocated for development, the project died out. The other day they appointed a new deputy commander, they say he will put things in order, if so, patience and will to him

Armata and Kurganets are waiting for deep modernization, because. there are serious shortcomings, these cars are not ready to fight

[AAK]

According to Armata and Kurganets: in 2015 there was their first show on Victory Day, before that they were assembled for at least a year, even before that they were designed as part of R&D for 5-6 years, and 2015 years have already passed since 7, it would be time to get rid of them in 12 years from "childhood diseases"

[Gorygor]

Quote: AAK

But where, damn it, are OUR like "unparalleled in the world"? After all, there is nothing particularly complicated here ... colleagues write the truth that topics where it was impossible to "rise on a rollback" when purchasing over a hillock were simply strangled in the bud by our generals and officials from the defense industry ... I hope that at least someday be The first will wake up the remnants of his conscience and officer honor in order to distribute "earrings to all sisters" ... but still, those who say that once in power any person becomes "ALIEN" are more likely right ...

The Russian Federation has too many developments. There are not enough resources and time for everything. Thank God, our missiles and anti-missiles are incomparable. And the problems are not only with drones. For example, eternal - fleet

[sergo1914]

Quote: AAK

But where, damn it, are OUR like "unparalleled in the world"? After all, there is nothing particularly complicated here ... colleagues write the truth that topics where it was impossible to "rise on a rollback" when purchasing over a hillock were simply strangled in the bud by our generals and officials from the defense industry ... I hope that at least someday be The first will wake up the remnants of his conscience and officer honor in order to distribute "earrings to all sisters" ... but still, those who say that once in power any person becomes "ALIEN" are more likely right ...

I'll reveal a secret. Part of the stolen is brought to HIM. Otherwise, the scheme is not viable.

[invisible_man]

That's right, but you should have your own.
It is difficult to understand why we develop, but do not produce (or produce in insufficient quantities). Moreover, commercial drones have been used in the Donbas for 8 years, which have proven their effectiveness.

[Alf]

Quote from invisible_man

It is difficult to understand why we develop, but do not produce

Because industry is needed for mass production, but where is the production of microelectronics? Where is the production of motors?

[Alex777]

Quote: Alf

Because industry is needed for mass production, but where is the production of microelectronics? Where is the production of motors?

You wrote it correctly, but you also need to add that MO did not have
a clearly formulated request for mass deliveries of UAVs. Already
when it became clear to everyone that they were needed and Borisov admitted that he had missed
topic, on TV, the general of the MoD continued to assert that it was not so
UAVs are needed. These generals should be fired. Otherwise, there will be no point.

[Bumblebee_3]

Alf, have you seen Iranian microelectronics? Or is the industry very developed in Iran? They simply did not have the opportunity to sell their oil and gas. Here they did everything. I was in Iran. Everyone drives their own, Iranian cars, and no one claims that this is a "bucket of bolts."

[Alf]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

Alf, have you seen Iranian microelectronics? Or is the industry very developed in Iran? They simply did not have the opportunity to sell their oil and gas. Here they did everything. I was in Iran. Everyone drives their own, Iranian cars, and no one claims that this is a "bucket of bolts."

The country has been under sanctions for who knows how many years. And nothing, cope. Maybe this is because the Glavbasmach works for the country, and does not communicate with "partners"?

[Bumblebee_3]

Alf, I don't agree with you about Glavbasmach. Iran was so overlaid that they were not even allowed to communicate. About the same as with North Korea. I did not see the habit of the Iranians to "deprecate" everything that is theirs. Unfortunately, we have such a thing (like: a chicken is not a bird - a Moskvich is not a car ")

[Gorygor]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

Alf, I don't agree with you about Glavbasmach. Iran was so overlaid that they were not even allowed to communicate. About the same as with North Korea. I did not see the habit of the Iranians to "deprecate" everything that is theirs. Unfortunately, we have such a thing (like: a chicken is not a bird - a Moskvich is not a car ")

The owner of a Moskvich in the USSR - it was a status !!! By the way, who is not in the subject: a chicken is a bird :) And Bulgaria is ...

[Alf]

Quote from Gorygor

And Bulgaria is

not abroad.

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote from Gorygor

The owner of a Moskvich in the USSR - it was a status !!! By the way, who is not in the subject: a chicken is a bird :) And Bulgaria is ...

This was before the advent of "Zhiguli". With the advent of "Zhiguli" status "Moskvich" went down. At one time, Moskvich, they even gave on credit (though not for long)

[Gorygor]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

Quote from Gorygor

The owner of a Moskvich in the USSR - it was a status !!! By the way, who is not in the subject: a chicken is a bird :) And Bulgaria is ...

This was before the advent of "Zhiguli". With the advent of "Zhiguli" status "Moskvich" went down. At one time, Moskvich, they even gave on credit (though not for long)

With the advent of Zhugul, only their happy owners looked down on Muscovites, and all other citizens still licked their lips at Moskvich.

[Bumblebee_3]

GoryGor (GoryGor)
I agree with you, for its time, "Moskvich 412" was very good. My father and I often went fishing. Father bought. I was still small back then. But I remember well.

[Gorygor]

Quote from invisible_man

That's right, but you should have your own.
It is difficult to understand why we develop, but do not produce (or produce in insufficient quantities). Moreover, commercial drones have been used in the Donbas for 8 years, which have proven their effectiveness.

A commercial drone is something else. Here we are talking about loitering ammunition, this is a different class of equipment

[rocket757]

In the Iranian press: Our drones, controlled by the great army of Russia, are destroying NATO strongholds in Odessa

. Suppose these drones are not the most advanced, but they can be effectively used, there is nothing to oppose, something effective, to Kukuevsky, at the moment.
And again the question ... we need to prepare effective, not expensive countermeasure systems for us too.
FIG knows what their guardians will supply to the Kukuevsky in the future.

[Silver99]

The production of these drones is mere pennies, they are assembled in the field, a circle of young modellers, but they fly up to 2 km to bomb, compared to the "calibers" the target is hardly noticeable, a serious help in use. One cheap kamikaze drone minus the expensive Hymers or three axes, the economic effect is noticeable.

[rocket757]

Without a serious, working, satellite constellation, the effectiveness of Drones with increasing distance is not so great.
This weapon can be used in combination with everything else, then yes, the effect is significant.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

..... the effect is significant.

yes, these zhevtoblakitnye somehow went nuts.

[rocket757]

I don’t want to realize that everything will come back to you more, more painfully, multiple times ...

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

I don’t want to realize that everything will come back to you more, more painfully, multiple times ...

They are delirious in the belief of the great history of the great ukria, firmly believing in all fantasies over the past 30 years

[rocket757]

Their brains were twisted by experienced shrinks!
Return to normal, the process is not fast, and it will work with everyone, now.

[Reptiloid]

Victor, what's the worst? The good that in the history of the USSR is either hushed up or obscured!
They try to instill a guilt complex in everything, so that there would be no respect and pride for the USSR.
And they are proud. Fiction, but proud, blaming Russia

[rocket757]

Yes, there is nothing to discuss there ... it is necessary to treat!

[gsev]

Quote: rocket757

Without a serious, working, satellite constellation, the effectiveness of Drones with increasing distance is not so great.

Their massive and timely use could stabilize the current near Liman and Kupyansk. situation. Shooting and maneuvering artillery is problematic when barrage of ammunition flies into artillery positions. Landing on Kharkiv's large power transformers could stop ammunition trains and make them easy prey for these drones.

[rocket757]

Quote: gsev

Bulk and timely

This is understandable ... when on time and in sufficient quantities, some problems would not have arisen, BUT, we have what we have ... correct, correct, make up for a lot, and not only material!
Well, if they do it right, they will correct .... errors / omissions, but .... hard to believe.

[gsev]

Quote: rocket757

Well, if they do it right, they will correct .... errors / omissions, but .... hard to believe.

The next step is to get the long-range analogues of the Khmyers from the DPRK and the PRC. Surely in these countries the control of artillery fire is automated, unlike the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. The DPRK was able to create an industrial greenhouse economy based on its own and not Dutch technologies. It's just that negotiations should be entrusted not to imposing MGIMO graduates, but to Kadyrov's businesslike and motivated employees. It is easier for the military to negotiate with the military than for diplomats and the North Korean military.

[rocket757]

In rocket technology ... we have better ones.

[gsev]

Quote: rocket757

In rocket technology ... we have better ones.

Apparently it's missing. There are no strikes on the energy system of Ukraine and oil refineries. Without this industry, Ukraine would not be able to repair equipment and supply it with fuel. After World War 2, the United States, by interviewing prisoners, established that if they had directed all the efforts of aviation to oil refining in Germany, they would have been able to leave its army without ammunition. North Korea has large stockpiles of expired weapons and is in need of oil. We have an excess of oil due to sanctions, and large-caliber self-propelled artillery is always in short supply in a war. Perhaps the DPRK also has optoelectronic equipment and internal combustion engines for drones.

[rocket757]

Quote: gsev

Apparently it's missing.

I did not write this, because ... but in different ways it can be considered. To assert that it is not enough, therefore it does not fly .... no, no, I DO NOT KNOW, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND, after all, no one reports to us, does not explain why it is so, and not like that, and much is not visible from the sofa.

[Gorygor]

Quote from Silver99

The production of these drones is mere pennies, they are assembled in the field, a circle of young modellers, but they fly up to 2 km to bomb, compared to the "calibers" the target is hardly noticeable, a serious help in use. One cheap kamikaze drone minus the expensive Hymers or three axes, the economic effect is noticeable.

Persians are just magic! The most important thing is pennies! So you have to buy hundreds of them! And very fast!

[cniza]

Good time!

As far as it seems to me, we have started their release at home?

[Reptiloid]

Quote: cniza

.... As far as it seems to me, we have started their release at home?

Well, if so. And then the dill became proud too much, they polluted the whole network with their boasting

[cniza]

You can ignore the horses, let them jump on ...

[Reptiloid]

Quote: cniza

You can ignore the horses, let them jump on ...

Like everyone was pushed from our stage? It would be good if their films were not shown on our TV

[gsev]

Quote: Reptiloid

It would be good if their films were not shown on our TV

It seems that all the soap series about kept women, profiteers and bandits on our TV are made mainly by Ukrainian artists.

[Reptiloid]

And a series about a doctor, and a series about an intern, and I don’t remember how, but there is a dog there, a series.
Mom is interested in police TV series, but she immediately stops watching these Ukrainian ones and expresses dissatisfaction for a long time afterwards. Someone after all promotes, gives them to earn. And nothing, they speak Russian, denying the language and hating our country. And books in Russian, by the way, are published

[Saboteur_Navy]

Needless to say, these Geraniums were very successfully made by the Persians ...
Considering their low price, it is necessary to buy more of them from them or organize a licensed assembly from us, I myself did not expect that diesel engines are so reliable and fly so far

[svp67]

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

Considering their low price, it is necessary to buy more of them from them or organize a licensed assembly from us, I myself did not expect that diesel engines are so reliable and fly so far

No, very soon the Armed Forces of Ukraine, on their own or with the help of partners, will find 2 "antidote" and therefore, we need to move on. We have our own excellent designers and people who understand what we need there now. They need to be given the opportunity to express themselves.

[Alf]

Quote: svp67

We have our own excellent designers and people who understand what we need there now. They need to be given the opportunity to express themselves.

And it would be nice if the corresponding plant would be for them ...

[Galleon]

In Rybinsk, they wrote, a production was created for the Corsair UAV, which did not go. But the workshop remained. You can start with it, there would be engines and electronics

[Alf]

Quote: Galleon

there would be engines and electronics

So this is the most important thing. An there is no such thing.

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote: Alf

Quote: Galleon

there would be engines and electronics

So this is the most important thing. An there is no such thing.

You're wrong, it's all there! The main thing is to exclude "effective managers" from production!

[Al manah]

Today, there is nowhere without them: the officials are growing up kids - they need to prepare chairs for them, not to attach them to the machines ...

[svp67]

Quote: Alf

So this is the most important thing. An there is no such thing.

But it’s possible to buy Iranians with the Chinese

[Alf]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Alf

So this is the most important thing. An there is no such thing.

But it’s possible to buy Iranians with the Chinese

Are you sure that the Chinese will want to sell? Names like Lenovo and Huawei don't say anything?

[svp67]

Quote: Alf

Names like Lenovo and Huawei don't say anything?

Familiar. But in China, electronics manufacturers are many times more than two ... hundreds of times

Quote: Alf

Are you sure that the Chinese will want to sell?

Now it's in their interest.

[Alf]

Quote: svp67

But in China, electronics manufacturers are many times more than two ... hundreds of times

Yes, more. But what is their scale?

[svp67]

Quote: Alf

But what is their scale?

It's enough for us. The Americans claim that at the last meeting of Di and VVP, the issue of Chinese assistance in organizing the production of microelectronics in our territory was discussed.

[Alf]

Quote: svp67

The Americans claim that at the last meeting of Di and VVP, the issue of Chinese assistance in organizing the production of microelectronics in our territory was discussed.

Judging by the fact that you did not bring the result, the result was ... bad for us.

[svp67]

Quote: Alf

Judging by the fact that you did not bring the result, the result was ... bad for us.

Time will tell...

[frei67]

city ​​of Dubna z-d Kronshtad. But there are not enough people for production

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote: frei67

city ​​of Dubna z-d Kronshtad. But there are not enough people for production

Let them cut "effective managers" and raise the wages of hard workers and design bureaus! There will be decent wages and there will be people!

[frei67]

salary up to 180t. written. yes, and this is a private enterprise. it is unlikely that there are extra managers

[Alf]

Quote: frei67

city ​​of Dubna z-d Kronshtad. But there are not enough people for production

For managers, I agree completely. Now with Dubna. Do you know for sure what is produced there, and not collected? The difference is drastic.

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote: Alf

Quote: frei67

city ​​of Dubna z-d Kronshtad. But there are not enough people for production

For managers, I agree completely. Now with Dubna. Do you know for sure what is produced there, and not collected? The difference is drastic.

Even if they collect! Make a decent wage, the same assemblers. People will go!

[Alf]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

Quote: Alf

Quote: frei67

city ​​of Dubna z-d Kronshtad. But there are not enough people for production

For managers, I agree completely. Now with Dubna. Do you know for sure what is produced there, and not collected? The difference is drastic.

Even if they collect! Make a decent wage, the same assemblers. People will go!

Yes, people will go, there are no questions about this. The point is different - there is no production of microelectronics, as well as micro-engines - "we will buy everything." That's what's scary.

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote: Alf

Yes, people will go, there are no questions about this. The point is different - there is no production of microelectronics, as well as micro-engines - "we will buy everything." That's what's scary.

Well, Iran does not buy microelectronics! If he buys, then through intermediaries! But this did not stop them from making one of the best UAVs!

[Galleon]

The glider was going to be completely molded in Dubna: the fuselage, consoles. It was about production.

[Alf]

Quote: Galleon

The glider was going to be completely molded in Dubna: the fuselage, consoles. It was about production.

Where do you get the stuffing?

[Bumblebee_3]

Alf, I'll answer your question with a question. Where does Iran take it? Take it there.

[Alf]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

Alf, I'll answer your question with a question. Where does Iran take it? Take it there.

Counter question, will they sell us?

[vadimtt]

They are selling to Iran. They produce and package in China (quietly, without noise and open reporting), then along the "shepherd's paths" to Iran, there is their own "advanced full-cycle plant at 65nm", large and fake, mikruhi go immediately to the last workshop, where laser markers ( also Chinese) "Made in Iran" is applied to them. What's wrong?
Have you thought why now we urgently began to build a factory of "microelectronics according to 28mm standards using our own advanced lithographic equipment"?

PS: But civilians will not get anything again, the scheme does not scale well.

[Alf]

Quote: vadimtt

Have you thought why now we urgently began to build a factory of "microelectronics according to 28mm standards using our own advanced lithographic equipment"?

To proudly put the inscription Made in Russia on Chinese parts.

[Saboteur_Navy]

What is the antidote? The price of a drone is ten times lower than the cheapest air defense missile

[dauria]

What is the antidote? The price of a drone is ten times lower than the cheapest air defense missile

Anti-aircraft artillery with detonation time programmed in the barrel. And a radio rangefinder (not even necessarily a full-fledged radar). Like a low-altitude aircraft altimeter, well, RV-5 for example.
True, the caliber needs more than 30 mm - electronics do not fit into the projectile. Although it seems like it should.
And for the future and the "Shell" such a gun will not hurt.

[Saboteur_Navy]

The UAV operator will see this artillery faster or, having descended, will destroy this gun mount, which again the gun is more expensive or will fly around it calmly

[gsev]

Quote: dauria

Anti-aircraft artillery with detonation time programmed in the barrel.

Against anti-aircraft guns, you can massage the use of drones. Today it hit Lvov, tomorrow Izmail, then Odessa, Nikolaev. A 700 kg drone carries 4 anti-tank missiles of the 3rd generation, hitting from 7 km. This is a dangerous opponent for ZSU, which takes 20 tons of high-quality steel. It looks like Israel has supplied Ukraine with air defense against Iranian drones and intends to test its anti-aircraft weapons there. Similarly, North Korea, China and Iran are interested in testing their weapons against a potential adversary.

[Drotro]

In any case, an extra nail in sneakers.
Let them now figure out how to pull it out. And again, if they are used on different sectors of the front, then this will force the Ukrainian air defense forces to disperse.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: svp67

...... We have our own excellent designers and people who understand what we need there now. They need to be given the opportunity to express themselves.

It would be great. Who knows, maybe everything will appear soon.
With hope

[Gorygor]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

Considering their low price, it is necessary to buy more of them from them or organize a licensed assembly from us, I myself did not expect that diesel engines are so reliable and fly so far

No, very soon the Armed Forces of Ukraine, on their own or with the help of partners, will find 2 "antidote" and therefore, we need to move on. We have our own excellent designers and people who understand what we need there now. They need to be given the opportunity to express themselves.

If we launch these Geraniums in tens or hundreds, not a single antidote will be effective.

[Trapp1st]

Our drones, controlled by the great army of Russia, are destroying NATO strongholds in Odessa

Thanks Iran!

[Cat Alexandrovich]

And here I am, until ours and peaches OFFICIALLY announce that these litaks are Iranian, I will consider them Russian!

[skeptick2]

The reason for pride could really take place if these drones were actually Russian. What are we proud of? Your inability to do this?

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Did I mention pride? I'm talking about keeping military secrets!

[Alf]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

I'm talking about keeping military secrets!

From whom ? From its own population, so that unpleasant questions would not be asked?

[Carlos Hall]

Extraordinary performance of Iranian drones. Iran shows itself to be one of Russia's most reliable allies, it's time to arm it with nuclear weapons

[Plate]

No need. Then they will threaten us if we one day decide to push Iran to the wall. Of course, it is very likely that one day humanity will develop weapons much more powerful than nuclear weapons, but when this will be, remains to be seen.

[Chief Officer Lom]

They will arm themselves with it soon. It's time to trade more intensively with them and North Korea. There is nothing more ridiculous than states supporting sanctions against each other imposed by their enemies.

[tihonmarine]

Our drones, controlled by the great Russian army, are destroying NATO strongholds in Odessa.

It's fine !

[Reptiloid]

You can feel that they are happy and proud at the same time.

Quote: tihonmarine

....It's fine !

[Sagetaus]

It hasn't even been six months!
Although no, very much passed

[Arkady007]

If the Iranians like it, we are even more pleased.

[dimbasic]

NATO must suffer unacceptable losses

[laws70]

NATO had to suffer unacceptable losses for seven months

[cniza]

And the Iranian publication frankly writes that the confrontation in Ukraine is a confrontation between Russia and the North Atlantic military bloc.

So it's time to call everyone...

[navigator777]

The Iranians rejoice that Russia is bending the US six with their weapons, no one has forgotten the killed general ...

[Fizik13]

In the Iranian press: Our drones, controlled by the great army of Russia, are destroying NATO strongholds in Odessa

A little bit wrong.
Our drones, controlled by the great army of Russia, are destroying NATO strongholds all over the WORLD!

[Tor Vic]

NATO has made so many enemies around the world!

[Old Horseradish]

Who will answer and be punished for the fact that our army does not have its own domestic drones? in fact, this is a crime paid for with the great blood of our compatriots.

[Alf]

Quote: Old Fuck

Who will answer and be punished for the fact that our army does not have its own domestic drones?

Dear colleague, you are asking some intolerant questions. The hedgehog and the goat understand that the sanctions are to blame, well, according to the cheat sheet further ...

[PalBor]

Oh, listen to how I laughed yesterday. It is clear that this is temporary. But: the moped is cracking, a bunch of terbatovtsy are firing from all the small arms, it flies, the people scatter ... And hello: the building of the Naval Forces of Ukraine is destroyed, Bulgakov was fired.

[RGB]

Well, air defense shot down at least one, but Soviet air defense! Reliable! Glory to the engineers of the USSR! They knew how to do it, since smart people did not disappear in Russia either, they continued the work of our fathers and brought it to a better level!

[Dilettante grandfather]

The Iranians are happy that their drones are working well. We are glad that our troops now have these drones. This is an example of good cooperation. Iran - thanks!

[Goffman]

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

The Iranians are happy that their drones are working well. We are glad that our troops now have these drones. This is an example of good cooperation.

So Serdyukov wanted the same with the Mistrals, and indeed with all military equipment. And everyone would be happy and happy - both sellers and buyers! No, well, how much he was still ahead of his time! ..

[Magellan]

Thanks to Iran for helping with the cause! Do not allow the spread of "protests" behind which it is known who ...

[Alexey_Kalashnikov]

Quote from Silver99

, it is a pity that we did not understand this and wasted time.

I wonder who "we" are. This "we" has a last name. Our people are funny: they are ready to fraternize with anyone and take on any other person's fault. No need to blame it on a completely sore head, it's not we who didn't understand, it's you and Shoigu who didn't understand. And you Silver99 also lost time.

[RGB]

How nice to read such articles!) The text is short, but my emotions are very pleasant!
Pi. Si. Che, they demoted me to the VO to the foreman ... Minusators ...

[Frank Muller]

While a follower of Ayatollah Khomeini, Ali Khamenei, was in Persia at the helm, a bunch of his "komnadzors" strictly monitored all aspects of the life of loyal subjects - from the correct wearing of the hijab to the inadmissibility and suppression of minor offenses. It seems that the Islamic fundamentalism that dominated the country and its costs are thoroughly fed up with the Iranian public, especially the youth who hit the protests. And the death of a spiritual leader is likely to be the catalyst for further anti-government riots. Do not be surprised if Baidenko and his team take advantage of the situation and organize a new revolution in the country - pro-American and anti-Islamic. The strike on Odessa, of course, created an unpleasant precedent for Kyiv for the successful use of Iranian drones and, at the same time, advertising for Persian military equipment. But is there a guarantee that with the change in the domestic political situation in Iran, deliveries to Russia of UAVs so necessary on its front will continue? All that remains is to hope for our own drones, with the production and armament of which the Russian Federation has been unacceptably delayed. I would like to believe that it is not fatal?

[N3onMiami]

It would be nice to buy a license and completely localize their production. And preferably in large volumes.

[Yumico]

Import substitution: Shahed-136 for geranium 2

[Nadrub]

It’s really a shame, every day I see majors on expensive foreign cars at the Rostec office, they made themselves raspberries to launder the dough, they definitely don’t care about the army, they would give any aircraft modeling circle even a hundredth of the money, they would do no worse than these crafts.

[SvyatoslavK]

Yes, only circles have sunk into oblivion ... We had Kursk in Dosaaf ... He worked for a year until the 15th ... One teacher of that circle pulled him on his own hump to the last ... Yes, he didn’t pull out ...

[ivar.zhukov]

What are the strategies here? Probably your General Staff is consulting?

[garik77]

Quote from Silver99

Iran is just incomparable thugs, under sanctions they made excellent modern weapons, albeit with elements of plagiarism from Israel and the United States (from their captured ones), but very good. Now it's our turn to dig and beat him in TTD.

For the Iranians, this is also an invaluable experience. The massive use of their drones will reveal weaknesses and improve these weapons.

[Bodipancher]

In theory, with the help of a raid of penny drones, you can open the location of the air defense unit for subsequent demilitarization

[bukhach]

Quote from Gorygor

Armata and Kurganets are waiting for deep modernization, because. there are serious shortcomings, these cars are not ready to fight

Do not share, what exactly were the shortcomings identified in these machines?

[Agarkov]

They are expensive to manufacture, the motor is problematic. I think They will change the power plant and work in terms of manufacturability, but this is not accurate. In general, the tank is good, and necessary.

[Hadji Murat]

Norm, we give the Iranians Su 30 and Su 34 aircraft, plus some technology, they give us UAVs with technology, we need to help each other

[SvyatoslavK]

As I read in the telegram, Iran has problems with cameras, which is why shock shahids are not equipped with cameras, and for aiming they need either clear coordinates - which was the case with the Ukrainian command base "South" in Odessa - or they need a drone shahid 136 which with a camera and is used as a means of reconnaissance and guidance for a group of shock martyrs.

[DeGreen]

Soon a plant near Vsevolozhsk will be built