Turkish authorities again announced the possible purchase of Russian Su-35 fighters instead of American ones

According to the head of the Turkish defense industry department, Ismail Demir, in the event that Washington refuses to supply Ankara with F-35 fighters, Russian Su-35s may be one of the alternatives. Demir stated this in an interview with the Turkish CNN Türk TV channel.

Earlier, the US authorities announced that they would not supply fifth-generation F-35 fighter jets to Turkey, citing Ankara's acquisition of the latest S-400 air defense systems from Russia. Later, Washington offered the Turks to buy fourth-generation F-16 fighters in return. However, friction arose, so to speak, on these aircraft.

Ankara received the first S-400s back in 2019. In August of this year, it was announced the start of deliveries of the second stage of the S-400 air defense systems. For this, the United States imposed sanctions against Turkey, including freezing the accounts of the aforementioned Demir and the defense industry directorate headed by him.

It is known that before the imposition of sanctions in Turkey, a number of components for the F-35 were being produced. However, it was curtailed. This caused outrage in Ankara, which began to say that if the United States refused to resume participation in the F-35 program, it could buy aircraft from Russia - either Su-35 or Su-57.

The issue of deliveries of F-35s to Turkey has not yet been finally resolved. Rejection of the deal or its approval must be agreed in the US Congress.

In the event of a final refusal, Ankara will look for alternative options. However, not many arms manufacturers can offer fifth-generation fighters. In fact, it could be either a Russian Su-57 or a Chinese J-20 fighter. There are no talks about any negotiations with China on this issue yet.

Comments

[Carlos Hall]

Sultan needs modern fighter jets to attack Greece

[Aerodrome]

Turks are friends .. with whom enemies are not needed ...

[Flooding]

Quote: Aerodrome

Turks are friends .. with whom enemies are not needed ...

[Warrior with machine gun]

If we add our hucksters, the prospect is shitty

[Elf]

Well, in this case, I think that it is necessary not to sell, but to exchange. To Bayraktary.
If Bayraktars appear in the Russian army, then the simultaneous detonation of farts in Svi [home] Narnia will be so grandiose that it will shift the north pole to the region of the Canadian province of Alberta.
And Zhirinovsky's prophecy will come true...)))

[valentine light]

But Greece sends weapons to Ukraine so that they kill their people and our soldiers.

Questions and disagreements between Turkey and Greece should not disturb us in their essence, until ....

[Pavlos Melas]

But Greece sends weapons and Ukraine does not want them to kill their people and our soldiers

And what about Greece? By the way, don’t tell me what Greece has really sent at the moment and how many bayraktars are already in Ukraine? By the way, how many bayraktars were donated?

[Alex777]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

By the way, don’t tell me what Greece actually sent at the moment

Have you been banned by Google?

ATHENS, June 5 - RIA Novosti. The Greek news portal pronews.gr, citing its own information, writes that the Greek government has transferred or is about to transfer an "incredible amount" of weapons and ammunition to Kyiv.
In total, according to his information, the list includes 122 BMP-1 armored infantry vehicles with all the ammunition for machine guns; 15 thousand shells 73 mm; 2,1 thousand rockets 122-mm (Grad); 20 AK-47 Kalashnikov assault rifles; 3,2 million rounds of 7,62 mm; 60 MANPADS FIM-92 Stinger; 17 thousand artillery shells 155 mm; 1,1 thousand RPG-18 anti-tank shells.

Everything has already been submitted. To my regret, Greece is in the top five most active suppliers.

[Pavlos Melas]

In total, according to his information, the list includes 122 BMP-1 armored infantry vehicles with all the ammunition for machine guns;

on this item there were 122, already the sturgeon was cut down to forty. Let's see when they will be handed over and yet, is this in exchange for German marders, or did you prefer that the Germans send marders instead of BMP-1? Greece had to send something, it would not get out. Since in NATO we have a lot of Russian weapons, they gave the rifle, they didn’t give the Torah and the S-300. If the SVO ended quickly, all this would remain at the level of promises, and now it is in danger of becoming a reality. And now, for objectivity, will you throw off how many bayraktars the Turks have delivered to Ukraine since the beginning of the NWO?

[Negruz]

The Turks sell UAVs - this is a business, while the Greeks act for ideological reasons ...

[Pavlos Melas]

The Turks sell UAVs - this is a business, while the Greeks act for ideological reasons ...

The Turks not only sell, they donate free of charge. The Greeks do not transfer directly, but return to the Germans what they bought from them, let the Germans look for ways not to transfer them to Ukraine. As for the shooter, which was put on a straight line, they transferred it so that they would not exert more pressure. Unfortunately, we don’t have maneuver like Hungary, the Hungarians have more decent neighbors. Greece, on the other hand, was not very lucky with its neighbor.

[Alex777]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

The Turks not only sell, they donate free of charge.

Are you kidding? It’s just that the Turks have a channel for transmitting and receiving a cache with the APU.

[Pavlos Melas]

Are you joking?

How, how, recently, the Ukrainians told how the Balts gathered them for a drone, and the Turks gave another drone with a broad gesture and poured ammunition for it.

[Alex777]

Is it him, ̶p̶o̶s̶l̶e̶d̶n̶e̶g̶o̶ alone, was shot down today when he was flying to the ZNPP?

[valentine light]

The Turks do not transfer anything for free.

Turkish Foreign Ministry: "Ukraine bought Bayraktars from a private company, but did not receive them as aid"

[Negruz]

The Turks not only sell, they donate free of charge.

You should know it's a lie...
Turks - give ...

The Greeks do not transfer directly, but return to the Germans what they bought from them, let the Germans look for ways not to transfer them to Ukraine

The Greeks chose Mitsotakis; what he says - we know ...
It is not the Greeks who are "cunning" with exchanges at all, but the Germans, under the sauce of "exchanges", refuse to supply modern armored vehicles to Ukraine ...

[Pavlos Melas]

You should know it's a lie...

Are you calling me a liar now?
And used cliches

Turks - give ...

I got information from the website of foreign media, which is a foreign agent on the territory of the Russian Federation on June 29, which says that three Bayraktars were handed over. I do not use clichés, as you can see, I use the article on which I rely. By the way, accuser, what is your opinion about haber 7 is a decent edition? It also writes hibe etti.

The Greeks chose Mitsotakis; what he says - we know ...

What does he say, please state. For example, I know that he declares about the Greek minority in Turkey: that there is practically none and
Turkey has been squeezing it out for many years. Please state in more detail what his statements are known
to you .

It is not the Greeks who are "cunning" with exchanges at all, but the Germans, under the sauce of "exchanges", refuse to supply modern armored vehicles to Ukraine ...

Even in this case, it turns out that the Greeks are helping the Germans so that modern armored vehicles are not supplied to Ukraine.

[Negruz]

I got information from the website of foreign media, which is a foreign agent on the territory of the Russian Federation on June 29, which says that three Bayraktars were handed over. I do not use clichés, as you can see, I use the article on which I rely. By the way, accuser, what is your opinion about haber 7 is a decent edition? It also writes hibe etti.

You understand that no one cares about InoSMI or any agency ....

There are statements about the purchase of UAVs, which are voiced by the official authorities, and in what form UAVs reach the Armed Forces of Ukraine - loans, Western gratuitous aid, fundraising among citizens of EU countries, donations from oligarchs, as contributions from Motor Sich or Ukroboronprom to a joint venture to build UAVs in Ukraine - does not play any role ...

The Baikar company does not give ANYTHING...

What does he say please say

Mitsotakis declares unconditional support for Ukraine, he coordinates the allocation of money to Ukraine through European funds, supplies weapons ...
He supports European diplomacy in an effort to "defeat Russia on the battlefield", supports the rejection of negotiations, agrees on economic "sanctions", that is, seeks to destroy our economy and impoverish the citizens of Russia ...

[sgrabik]

With the choice of such a Prime Minister and the government of Greece, much more unlucky than with a neighbor !!!

[Pavlos Melas]

With the choice of such a Prime Minister and the government of Greece, much more unlucky than with a neighbor !!!

You understand that these are slogans, see at least one fact where we were unlucky with Mitsotakis.

[Alex777]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

on this item there were 122, already the sturgeon was cut down to forty. Let's see when they will be handed over and yet, is this in exchange for German marders, or did you prefer that the Germans send marders instead of BMP-1?

I don't care. Marders are the same junk, only a side view.
Why did the Greeks "cut the sturgeon"? Tell me more?
And the Germans are great. Bye. Something serious directly APU
do not transmit. They understand that cheap gas is much more important.

Quote: Pavlos Melas

... they didn’t give Torah and S-300.

On the one hand, this is good. On the other hand, it is not clear who
thank. Grekov or Erdogan? Do you understand about
what am I saying?

I was to the Greeks with all my heart. Always rested with the family and
in Santorini, and in many other places. But support
OCU - greatly spoiled my attitude towards Greece.

[bayard]

And it would be nice for two members of the NATO bloc to clash in a fatal battle.
Erdogan can also offer the MiG-35. A good car, anything is better than the F-16 ... AFAR radar ... and we will launch production for ourselves ... Shake up / shake up Europe, and put the Balkan countries in a liquid chair ... And shake the USA into twine.

But the heart feels a new betrayal after Roma's gatherings with Benya in Istanbul.

[Alex777]

Quote: bayard

But the heart feels a new betrayal after Roma's gatherings with Benya in Istanbul.

There will be no betrayal. Russia will win.
But not as soon as we would like. 2024

[bayard]

Quote: Alex777

But not as soon as we would like. 2024

Well, apparently Roma and Benya were frayed about this - about the launch of an ammonia pipeline to Europe. He just crosses the border in the Kupyansk region. Like , if the victory is not soon , then you can trade . Not just gas...
And if the rear service works in the same way as the military registration and enlistment offices, then indeed, before 2024 there is nothing to think about.
But what is true is true - such (number and quality of material support / supply) the Army cannot get any Victory. There are no parades \ biathlons, in the war everything is for adults.
And there the guarantor will run out of time.

[Alex777]

There are many different reasons. The main thing is that the Anglo-Saxons are liberals
will fight to the last Ukrainian. They figured out how
hold out in the November elections. I would be very happy to be wrong.

[valentine light]

And Greece?

Did you read the message that everyone is commenting on here, or is it like "everyone got in line and I will be"? :))


Turkey does not supply anything free of charge, only for the money that Ukraine begs from the United States.

[Pavlos Melas]

And Greece?

Did you read the message that everyone is commenting on here, or is it like "everyone got in line and I will be"? :))

The Turkish authorities have again announced the possible purchase of Russian Su-35 fighters.
Actually, that's the title of the article. We discuss the article in general. Where and how Ertogan will use these aircraft is not mentioned in the article. Actually, it looks like this, you wrote a comment to accuse Greece of something.

[valentine light]

The comment was written on a guest comment - "The Sultan needs modern fighters to attack Greece."


And Greece blames itself for supplying weapons to criminals from Kyiv.

[valentine light]

Turkish Foreign Ministry: Ukraine bought Bayraktars from a private company, but did not receive them as aid

[Siberian 66]

May he not attack Greece. Never. Greece is very necessary and important as a boy for beating in the information space, shaking fists, militant statements, pumping up the army with spirit and weapons. And that's all. Well, he will eat Greece, who will take her place? Think again. And so everything is.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote from Carlos Sala

Sultan needs modern fighter jets to attack Greece

Buy ours. "Drying".
Even the model numbers are the same.
F-35 vs Su-35

[Greg Miller]

Quote: Paul Siebert

Quote from Carlos Sala

Sultan needs modern fighter jets to attack Greece

Buy ours. "Drying".
Even the model numbers are the same.
F-35 vs Su-35

Why bother with the Su-35? Better yet, let's sell the Sarmatians with the Yars to the Turks right away, and on credit ... And let our own army fight with the Turkish Bayraktars in Ukraine !!!

[Paul Siebert]

Greg, Sarmatians and Yarsy are not air defense systems.
And they cannot fight with the Bayraktars ... alas.

[Greg Miller]

Quote: Paul Siebert

Greg, Sarmatians and Yarsy are not air defense systems.
And they cannot fight with the Bayraktars ... alas.

What are you talking about??? It’s just that the Turks can immediately hit Moscow with Sarmat and Yars and not exchange for various trifles like the Su-24 ...

[Paul Siebert]

And "Poseidons" in St. Petersburg and Murmansk.
What are you up to, young man?
Tell me, can my chakras open?

[valentine light]

1) the question is not about the sale of "Sarmat", "Yars" or "Poseidon" (naval weapons), we even have the C350 "Vityaz" under an export ban.
Yes, yes, the S-400 is possible, but the sale / supply of the S-350, in the Vityaz modification, is PROHIBITED AT THE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL.


Try to guess why.

2) Our layered air defense is the only one in the world and oh, how difficult it is to pass it, although theoretically NATO members assume this in their dreams :))


In the United States, there is no layered air defense - they are all focused on aircraft carriers and 1700 military bases scattered around the Globe.

[sgrabik]

To the detriment of their Army, no one should sell anything to anyone now, it is urgent to change priorities, the most advanced and modern weapons should be supplied in the very first place to our Army and in sufficient quantities, and if one of the hucksters from Rosoboronexport does not understand this in time - remove from office, judge and imprison such unfortunate managers for undermining the defense capability of our country.

[41 REGION]

Quote: Paul Siebert

Buy ours. "Drying".

And then they will take it and resell it to the Sumerians. Everything you can expect from Erdogan

[faiver]

Trade between the Turks and the Amers is in full swing ....

[Terenin]

Quote: faiver

Trade between the Turks and the Amers is in full swing ....

Turks, in trade, as always, bend to the cold, no matter what exclusivity you proudly wear

[antivirus]

According to stories on the Internet: It's time to award the orders of friendship to the outlying doctors who left our prisoners. The song must be sung on time.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: antivirus

According to the stories

the story is not complete.

[antivirus]

That's about peacekeepers and you need a fairy tale, for a split, to sing

[Yulian]

For such a great friend as Erdogan, the Su-35 and Su-57 aircraft should be donated. This is how NATO will be hacked from the inside, as when buying the S-400.

[Pavlos Melas]

For such a great friend as Erdogan, the Su-35 and Su-57 aircraft should be donated. This is how NATO will be hacked from the inside, as when buying the S-400.

Yes, I also suggested here that Russian planes be presented to him, but alas, our friends from the Russian Federation did not appreciate my impulse, they downvoted .

[Terenin]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

our friends from Russia

Okay, about planes, but how

Quote: Pavlos Melas

friends from Russia

determined? By avatar?

[Pavlos Melas]

determined? By avatar?

No, not by the avatar, I meant colleagues on the site. Since the site is Russian, the majority of those evaluating and pissing are most likely from the Russian Federation.

[Pulkovo1942]

as in purchases C-400

Voices slander that the S-400 was given to the Turks, and nuclear power plants are being built for the money of Russian taxpayers. So you made a great point: "Su-35 and Su-57 aircraft should be donated." A very likely outcome.

[tralflot1832]

Rosatom is building a nuclear power plant for its own money. No one in the world can offer such a formula: Built and own. No one. And if Rosatom is kicked out during operation, this is fraught with huge losses for the kicker.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: tralflot1832

And if Rosatom is kicked out during operation, this is fraught, for the kicker, with huge losses.

what losses? Russian money?

[tralflot1832]

Look on the net for what Vladey Built principle is, and everything will become clear. Especially in the impending energy crisis in the EU. As if Erdogan did not overshadow Germany in Europe. And by the way, he is still not in the EU.

[Terenin]

Quote: tralflot1832

Rosatom is building a nuclear power plant for its own money. No one in the world can offer such a formula: Built and own. No one. And if Rosatom is kicked out during operation, this is fraught with huge losses for the kicker.

Yes, it turns out that even the coal for the firebox is of a certain brand. Another, no-no

Anthracite (A)
Brown (B)
Gas (G)
Gas fat (GJ)
Gas fat lean (GZhO)
Long Flame (D)
Long-flame gas (DG)
Bold (W)
Coke (K)
Coke fat (QOL)
Coke lean (KO)
Coke low-caking (KS)
Low-Caking Low-Metamorphosed Coke (LCL)
Skinny sintering (OS)
Slightly caking (SS)
Skinny (T)
Skinny sintering (TS)

[tralflot1832]

You also have to study non-core materials, but now it’s easier for the CSP student to go the wrong way. Victims of the Unified State Examination and the Bologna education system. Thanks for the coal grades.

[Terenin]

Quote: tralflot1832

TsSPshnik went the wrong way. Victims of the Unified State Examination and the Bologna education system.

There, for the guys, in the first quarter, the "caliber" flew to the headquarters of the Ukrainian 72nd center ...

[ARIONkrsk]

Quote: Pulkovo1942

as in purchases C-400

Voices slander that the S-400 was given to the Turks, and nuclear power plants are being built for the money of Russian taxpayers. So you made a great point: "Su-35 and Su-57 aircraft should be donated." A very likely outcome.

If I am not mistaken, there is a loan and more than half of the shares are ours, i.e. and the income is partly ours. Not only do we build on credit, everyone builds like that.

[Yulian]

If seriously. Turks will never buy Russian planes. Pored bluff to Washington. After they received permission to purchase, the upgraded F-16s also hope for the F-35.

[Pavlos Melas]

After they received permission to purchase, the upgraded F-16s also hope for the F-35.

Were they allowed to buy F-16 planes? Ertogan seemed to have a ride with a personal meeting with Biden.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Turecko je nespolehlivy partner pro kohokoliv. Nikdy bych Turecku neprodal nejmodernější zbraně. Turecko je nebezpečné pro všechny.

[faiver]

I agree with you, having such friends - you don’t need enemies ....

[tralflot1832]

But with Turkey it is interesting to dance Tango together. But you need an eye for it.

[41 REGION]

Quote: tralflot1832

But he needs an eye.

Whoever has good eyesight gets a cash prize
It takes more than one pair of eyes...

[ARIONkrsk]

Quote from Jsem_CZEKO68

Turecko je nespolehlivy partner pro kohokoliv. Nikdy bych Turecku neprodal nejmodernější zbraně. Turecko je nebezpečné pro všechny.

In general, it’s not a thrill to break the brain in Latin.

[41 REGION]

Quote from ARIONkrsk

In general, it’s not a thrill to break the brain in Latin.

there is a translator

Turkey is an unreliable partner for anyone. I would never sell the most modern weapons to Turkey. Turkey is dangerous for everyone.

[Skipper]

Erdogan for Europe and the United States is a savage and a second-class barbarian.

[Terenin]

Quote: Skipper

Erdogan for Europe and the United States is a savage and a second-class barbarian.

And who destroyed the Roman Empire, weren't they barbarians!?

[Fitter65]

I don’t understand one thing for what (not an obscene synonym for the question)? ... Why it was necessary to stupidly draw registration numbers like RF-ХХХХХ, and under it there is an inscription in Russian Aerospace Forces of RUSSIA, when now these numbers are retouched in the photo, if not at the base managed to blur. The photo is in the header, the fresh Su-35 has nothing to do with the SVO at all (there is not a single suspension point), the blue side number 01 ... No one knows which planes with blue side ones for No. 01, 02, 03, from Komsomolsk - Did you fly on the Amur? It is clear that this was a great military secret, which was broadcast online throughout the country. What prevents everything from returning to the way it was before Tolya Taburetkin?...

[kit88]

According to bmpd.

Judging by the video circulated by the KLA, the Russian Aerospace Forces (judging by the date of the video - September 9) were delivered three new Su-35S fighters built by KnAAZ with blue tail numbers "01", "02" and "03".

Three of these new Su-35S fighters built in 2022 with blue tail numbers "01", "02" and "03" entered the 116th Training Center for Combat Use of the 185th Center for Combat Training and Combat Use of Fighter Aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces at Privolzhsky airfield in the Astrakhan region. They became the first Su-35S aircraft in this Center.

[DienBienPhu]

They should immediately sign a contract for the purchase of the SU-35S, because we all know the US decision on the F-35 :))

[George Koval]

While militants and bayraktars are being delivered to Ukraine, no planes!

[rocket757]

Turkish authorities again announced the possible purchase of Russian Su-35 fighters instead of American ones

. Traded again ... not interesting.

[Terenin]

Quote: rocket757

Turkish authorities again announced the possible purchase of Russian Su-35 fighters instead of American ones

. Traded again ... not interesting.

Routine.
We can consider their application for the purchase of our Su-35s, not the fact that we will sell, but we will consider the application. But money, for consideration, to transfer on the map "Mir"

[rocket757]

Hi
At the moment, in the economic, political situation that Turkey has entered, considering the hacks on their part ... somehow does not inspire.
Their nuclear / energy affairs were already very expensive for us and the prospects for getting the expected profit, returning investments / spent, like that ... everything is very foggy, if you take a closer look at everything.
They are not solvent when ours are doing business with them, and since the Naglv, the Yankees, know how to shake money out of debtors, ours CANNOT!!!
In general, the variant is sour / rotten, no matter how you look at it.

[Zaurbek]

Our fighter is not beneficial to them ...... The industry is built to the NATO standard .... And no one will let the Turks get into the "brain" of the Su35S .....

[gx200gx]

The Turks, as always, are trying to get hold of everything at once.

[Vladimir Anatolyevich]

There is no faith in Turks!!! Then they will give it away under conditional "Lend-Lease" ..... why is this necessary!?!?

[Fizik13]

Dickhead them on the collar UNTIL YOU END YOURSELF! And then let's look at the behavior!