Battles with attacking units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are going on in the area of ​​Krasny Liman

The Ukrainian military is making stubborn attempts to advance from the north into the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic. In the Krasny Liman area, fierce battles are going on with the attacking units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

This is reported by the Telegram-channel "Operation Z. Military commissars of the Russian Spring".

The Bars-16 detachment, also known as the Kuban, defends the approaches to Krasny Liman, while making effective sorties. They managed to destroy a T-62 tank, an BTR-80 and a pickup truck with an 82mm mortar. Drobyshevo is protected by the Russian Legion volunteer unit, or the Bars-13 detachment. This settlement is subjected to attacks and heavy shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

For their part, the Ukrainian military is using a bridgehead on our bank of the Seversky Donets for attacks. They reinforce the grouping located there, transporting military equipment across the river. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are advancing simultaneously from several directions, making attempts to encircle the Krasnolimansk grouping of allied forces.

There are battles for Novoselovka, which is now almost completely destroyed. Russian units occupy about half of this settlement.

Earlier, Ramzan Kadyrov told the heads of Chechnya that Russia has the ability to transfer up to half of all law enforcement officers to the special operation zone, which would amount to 2,5 million people.

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[nPuBaTuP]

Earlier, Ramzan Kadyrov told the heads of Chechnya that Russia has the ability to transfer up to half of all law enforcement officers to the special operation zone, which would amount to 2,5 million people.

Why is this included in the article?

[Quote Lavrov]

I have also noticed this trend. Disturbing.

[gsev]

Quote: nPuBaTuP

Why is this included in the article?

Apparently Kadyrov offered good advice. The mobilized need to be trained for 2 months. And the OMON is suitable as infantry to localize breakthroughs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. If we are late with the introduction of reserves, we will get at Krasny Liman what we got near Balakleya and Kupyansk.

[businessv]

Quote: gsev

If we are late with the introduction of reserves, we will get at Krasny Liman what we got near Balakleya and Kupyansk.

Previously, the internal troops, if necessary, were used in the database, I think that the Russian Guard could help in this case.

[Radius]

The National Guard has been there for a long time, from the very beginning. Previously, these were operational units of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and special forces. And OMON and SOBR are the same Russian Guard, but their functions and tasks are different.

[Alexey G]

The ground army of Russia for 2021 amounted to 280 thousand people. About 160 are now fighting, plus the DPR and LPR, whose numbers may be equal to or exceed the Russian one.
I think it would be wiser not to move the OMON, which, whatever one may say, has no experience and is not trained in combat operations with army units! These guys are good at apprehending criminals, not at trench battles and against artillery and tanks.
Their losses will be high, and the benefits too expensive.
It would be much more efficient to send those mobilized to the military districts and replace the remaining contract soldiers there, of which 280-160 = 120 thousand people, and immediately send them into battle on Liman! And during this time, the mobs will go through combat coordination and the best 170 thousand people will leave in a month ...
OMON is still needed in the rear, in case of attempts if internal enemies decide to stab Russia in the back. We have such experience, comrades, we must be on our guard!

[bayard]

Quote: Alexey G

The ground army of Russia for 2021 was 280 thousand people

Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - 280 thousand people

Quote: Alexey G

About 160 thousand are now fighting

Now up to 180 thousand, but this is the total number of the Allied Forces grouping. Of which, the number of two corps of the republics of Donbass today is about 60 thousand - no more.
And yet - the Airborne Forces and MPs of the Navy are not part of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but they are present and fighting in the theater of operations.
And about the Russian Guard.
The number of the Russian Guard was 350 thousand at the time of the start of the conflict. And the Russian Guard has been present on the theater of operations from the very beginning and has been participating in battles. And it participates precisely because of the lack of assault infantry.
By the way, volunteer units that are formed and are being formed in all regions of the Russian Federation (special respect to Ramzan), are formed precisely under the wing and under a contract with the National Guard.
And also PMCs are fighting in the theater of operations, and many different ones (not only Wagner).
And this whole motley army on the fronts is about 180 thousand (well, maybe up to 200 thousand, taking into account the arrived battalions of volunteers).
TOTAL !
That's why the breakthrough on the Kharkov front was due to the lack of l \ s on extremely extended fronts (for such a group size).
If the mobilization goes as it should (and who needs it), then in a month and a half or two months the grouping in the theater of operations can reach up to 500 thousand. And then it will be possible to fight.

[Alexey G]

That's right, but I wanted to emphasize that the mobilized need to be trained, and the rest of the ground army in regions where there are no hostilities is already ready! It would be effective to abandon those who were not mobilized, namely, to replace the remaining units with them. This will significantly speed up the transfer of forces and give the front a real peacetime army, and not people from the reserve, whose training and coherence are in question.

[bayard]

In the current conflict, conscripts do not fight. And those are up to half of the total l \ s. Plus, some kind of backbone of qualified contract soldiers must be left at locations so as not to undermine combat readiness and have someone to train / train conscripts and recruits.
In the Russian Federation, the army is too small, and the degree of its tinyness seems to be realized only now - after the withdrawal from the Kyiv, Chernihiv, Sumy, and now Kharkov regions.
Until the size of the NVO grouping and the entire Army as a whole is not brought to a reasonable size, one cannot dream of any success on the fronts. But it is possible to destroy the personnel Army.

[28st region]

OMON, SOBR and such are fighting there. In terms of the composition of approximately 150K of the RF Ministry of Defense, 30K of the Russian Guard, by the way, it includes both OMON and SOBR, and there the special forces of the Federal Penitentiary Service, these issues generally cause their specialization to be completely different, although they can guard prisoners, clean the rear, together with the Russian Guard, the Chechens were taken out, after the announcement mobilization again appeared infa that they will be sent back. But how many of them are 3 battalions of 560 people each and the Akhmat regiment -1500 people. The data is open.
After mobilization, active actions should be expected. All this is connected with holding referendums.

[Sergey Kuzmin]

Where is the permanent duty in the air of strategic missile carriers TU-95? Where are their strikes against concentrations of enemy troops? Why is such a splendid opportunity being missed to gouge the concentrations of Ukronazi troops outside settlements with aircraft?!

[Pereira]

Why is this included in the article?

An attempt to add a positive to the bad news.

[Arkady007]

I don't understand another.
Why are all observers talking about insufficient defense forces in Liman, weak support for the Aerospace Forces, and news reports from the General Staff there are no visible movements in this area in terms of containing the Armed Forces of Ukraine. We leave something every day. Morally presses us and lifts them.

[Pereira]

So, they're telling the truth. Kill them for it?

[Pilot]

And where should they go? They attack. Mixed in the trash good-bad. You can not demand from the people to understand the situation, after such a propaganda pumping. Ukrainians give their lives for the hero of TV series. Terpila, the Ukrainian people, slightly stoned, a little bit redneck, promoted by the means of mass pro-propaganda.

[Silver99]

We need carpet bombing of the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine assembled near Liman, do not spare air bombs. Why does Russia not use strategic aviation?

[Quote Lavrov]

Apparently, Ukrainian air defense does not allow us to do this. Although something recently, it is becoming increasingly difficult to understand what is the root cause of certain actions / inactions.

[Silver99]

Stop, according to Konashenko, this air defense has long been gone, but on the other hand, where is the advertised electronic warfare system?

[Quote Lavrov]

Unfortunately, reality is very often at odds with how it is portrayed.

[Silver99]

This is understandable, but in fact a modern war is being waged with NATO and the question arises, why do we need this strategic aviation if we are afraid to use it near our borders, all the same, the air defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is far from perfect, and what will happen if we send it to the shores of the Atlantic, there it will be met by more massive air defense forces.

[max_everhead]

Where do you see NATO troops there? Fake, actively thrown by ours to justify the flight and huge losses. Some weapons are given, but very few. There are no tanks, no planes, no air defense, none of this from NATO equipment. And there is a very motivated opponent who is well equipped, prepared and defends his home. And of course, the leadership of the country and the armed forces turned out to be much more professional than ours

[Smart ass_]

"Perfectly equipped"
And by whom? By chance, not NATO?

[ammunition]

I agree with your comment, except for these words -

Quote from: max_everhead

well equipped, well prepared

Far from well prepared. But. The fact is that we are generally seams and zero with preparation. Typical comment -
"Served for a year. Buffet from the belly. He held the machine once in his hands."
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Here they write - "Where is Tamanskaya?" .. But how can you compare?
In the mid-80s (Tamanskaya). -
Almost always running. Always with a weapon. Cartridges are always live. Shooting, BSV, BSO, RTU with live fire .. etc. - do not count. Combat alarms (at 3-4 o'clock in the morning) - do not count. Almost always in full gear (that is, with a sapper shovel, too). Almost every 5 minutes (on the march), teams - Enemy from the rear! , Gaza! , Air! , Flash left ! .. etc. etc. And if the march is in the field - commands - "March to the line of platoon columns!" "March to the line of squads!" etc. etc.
How many combat grenades he threw - do not count. And also OShP - a fiery assault strip (the ruined city is on fire) - a lot!
Etc.. etc. it.d .. that everything cannot be described.
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Is it possible to compare?????

[Sergey Drozdov]

How vividly you described everything ... That's why - that Tamanskaya, could reach from Berlin to the shores of the Atlantic in three days, not caring about shells, rockets, helmets and shorts continuously produced in the rear of the USSR ...

[Bear]

Tamanskaya - COULD NOT get anywhere. It is originally "counter-coup".

[ammunition]

Quote from bear

Tamanskaya - originally "counter-coup"

Tamanskaya 80s absolutely unsuitable for any action against its own population. Absolutely. Because the essence of moral goals was - to give one's life for the sake of a peaceful life ..of this very civilian population. And they put it near Moscow .. after the war .. like an indestructible barrier. They also remembered the fear of the 41st year.
"Counter-coup" - named after Dzerzhinsky. Here they have a completely different moral preparation .. and a different egregor.

[Bear]

Let's not argue about the obvious. Tamanskaya Division "Participation in 1991: August Coup
1993: Dispersal of the Supreme Council of Russia"

[ammunition]

Quote from bear

Let's not argue about the obvious. Tamanskaya Division "Participation in 1991: August Coup

Here ! That's it. Two grandmothers stopped the battalion! The soldiers of the Taman division were unable to use weapons against своих civil. And the coup failed.

Quote from bear

1993: Dispersal of the Supreme Council of Russia"

More precisely - a bloody coup with the execution of V.S. from tank guns.
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So the Taman division did not take part in this. Here it is just ROOT .. The point. The essence of what is happening now. The officers of the Taman division refused to carry out Yeltsin's order. (as well as Rutskoy too). For which they then paid. I don’t know - tanks were taken from Tamanskaya or Kantemirovskaya, but officers from the Dzerzhinsky division were sitting in these tanks.
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Yeltsin found support in the Airborne Forces and in the Dzerzhinsky division (VV). As well as in paramilitary police units. These above easily used weapons against their people.
And that is why in 1995 (at Yeltsin's first parade), only VVshniki and VDVshniki went. and no one else. And that is why BB - once the most disrespectful branch of the military .. was made the most "cool". And Tamanskaya and Kantemirovskaya were later disbanded altogether.
And that is why the support of the current government is precisely on the Airborne Forces and explosives. And that is why .. other types of troops were kept in the "h .. shnom" state.
And that is why - now in the war in Ukraine there is such a hodgepodge .. and such terrible problems.

[dymcat]

Dear Nikolay! Did the officers from the Dzerzhinsky division quickly master the T-80 UD tank?

[ammunition]

Quote from dymcat

Did the officers from the Dzerzhinsky division quickly master the T-80 UD tank?

Dear Vladimir !
1) In service with the Dzerzhinsky division tanks PT-76. were at that time.
2) Even I (actually a motorized rifleman) could easily control the tank gun of the T-64, T-72, and T-80 tanks.

[Bear]

This is a fairy tale, not a story about Tamanskaya in the 80s

[Bolt cutter]

none of this from NATO technology is there.

Without NATO intelligence, they would have had krants in May.

[isv000]

Quote from: max_everhead

Where do you see NATO troops there?

That's what they say on Tiktok! Why don't you watch the news there?
ps Now they are sticking cons!

[Igor_Aretano]

Space intelligence is all NATO among Bandera. Westerners themselves spoke.

[MBRSS]

why does she need this strategic aviation ...

moreover, what are the strong arguments in favor of manned aviation in general? Against a weak enemy without air defense, as we see in the example of Karabakh, an unmanned one is effective, and also cheaper. And carpet bombing seems to be losing relevance.
True, the Israelis have found a niche for their F-16s.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: MBRBS

moreover, what are the strong arguments in favor of manned aviation in general?

MALD J.

Quote: MBRBS

And carpet bombing seems to be losing relevance.

JDAM.

[frog]

on the other hand, where is the advertised electronic warfare system?

Hussars, be silent! (C)

[Metallurg_2]

Strategists can be used without entering the airspace 404. So either an agreement or mediocrity of the senior command staff.
Well, either again nonsense about "one mouth".

[polynet]

Quote from Silver99

We need carpet bombing of the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine assembled near Liman, do not spare air bombs. Why does Russia not use strategic aviation?

FAB-500

[Sailor]

Why does Russia not use strategic aviation?

There, in theory, front-line aviation could bomb perfectly ... Now, I hope, drones are entering the troops - they have reconnoitered targets, and the dryers will break through air defense and bomb ... Apparently, it’s difficult because of the wooded area, I don’t know

[UAZ 452]

And the equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine rushing right through the forests? And does it cross rivers on its own, without crossings? Why didn't our army succeed?

[culinary]

Quote from Silver99

We need carpet bombing of the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine assembled near Liman, do not spare air bombs. Why does Russia not use strategic aviation?

Just because they will shoot down. Air defense is not suppressed. Therefore, the rest do not fly.

[ARIONkrsk]

Now the main task is to hold out, as the replenishment comes, everything will change dramatically.

[rocket757]

For their part, the Ukrainian military is using a bridgehead on our bank of the Seversky Donets for attacks. They reinforce the grouping located there, transporting military equipment across the river. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are advancing simultaneously from several directions, making attempts to encircle the Krasnolimansk grouping of allied forces.

. They will defend themselves and wait, wait, for something ...

[AAK]

Again they write about the participation of irregular (non-army) volunteer armed formations in fierce defensive battles in important areas, but where are the "heroic" Taman-Kantemirov guardsmen? Or are military psychologists still working with them after the "liberation campaign" and the rear has not yet finished washing their crap pants?

[tihonmarine]

Heavy fighting in the Krasny Liman area does not stop:
- The Armed Forces of Ukraine have created bridgeheads on our bank of the Seversky Donets, continuing to transport equipment.
- The enemy is attacking from several directions, trying to encircle the city and cut off our Liman grouping.
- The enemy is storming Novoselovka, the village is divided in half and turned into ruins.
- The enemy is attacking and shelling Drobyshevo, which is held by the volunteers of the Russian Legion detachment (Bars-13).
- Detachment "Kuban" ("Bars-16") is fighting on the outskirts of the Red Estuary and makes sorties, destroying the T-62, BTR-80, pickup truck with 82-mm.
Both sides actively use artillery.
- The Armed Forces of Ukraine use the HIMARS MLRS at our reconnoitered objects in Liman and Drobyshevo.
- Artillery "Brave" and NM LPR hit the advancing enemy forces.
- The special forces of the "O" group continue to carry out raids, destroying the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the rear.
- Both ours and Ukrainians are pulling up reserves.

[Silver99]

those. nothing has changed since the civil war, there are attacks by carts and cavalry (((then the question arises whether equal armies or the second army of the world with its gigantic capabilities are fighting against drug addicts and students of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, well, that’s what they are called in the media. Previously, we were told that we regret peaceful the population and the enemy dug in for 8 years, but now this excuse does not roll in the steppes of Kherson region ((((means something else.

[UAZ 452]

Both sides actively use artillery.
- The Armed Forces of Ukraine use the HIMARS MLRS at our reconnoitered objects in Liman and Drobyshevo.
- Artillery "Brave" and NM LPR hit the advancing enemy forces.

Did you miss the paragraph on the work of aviation? Or is our aviation already absent as a phenomenon?

[culinary]

Quote: UAZ 452

Both sides actively use artillery.
- The Armed Forces of Ukraine use the HIMARS MLRS at our reconnoitered objects in Liman and Drobyshevo.
- Artillery "Brave" and NM LPR hit the advancing enemy forces.

Did you miss the paragraph on the work of aviation? Or is our aviation already absent as a phenomenon?

Campaign yes, absent. Due to the anti-aircraft defense of Schenevmerlikov.

[km-21]

After the recent successful offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region, reports of the continuation of the attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Liman look quite alarming.

[Carlos Hall]

Take the opportunity to eliminate as many Ukronazis and Wild Geese as possible.

[kriten]

There it is necessary to be more serious - this is the most dangerous direction. The attackers must be destroyed by carpet bombing and not screaming about their losses.

[Cartalon]

What other carpet bombings? The enemy's air defense is not suppressed, VKS, this is not the US Air Force for you, we do not have the ability to raise hundreds of aircraft at once, having previously fired so many cruise missiles and drones and decoys that the air defense simply cannot react.

[dzvero]

I do not believe that the VKS are so "toothless". The question here is rather how many long-range bombers can be allocated for tactical tasks and how many of them can carry free-fall bombs without dismantling the launcher for missiles. After all, no one removed the task of strategic deterrence in front of Long-Range Aviation.

[Metallurg_2]

Why remove launchers for missiles? Rockets and hit without entering the airspace.

[dzvero]

They are doing that now. My post is speculation (in a good way ) about the real possibilities of carpet bombing at the moment.

[ALARI]

Something is not clear where the regular army of the Russian Federation is, why are the militias and volunteers holding the line? At least there is an overlap with artillery.

[Cartalon]

Our land army for 2021 was 280 thousand people.
Subtract, recruits, support units, troops in other directions, in Ukraine, together with the airborne forces, in the best case, 100 thousand people of regular troops, but in reality it is less because of the loss of rotation, and so on. So if there are still the notorious 60 armored personnel carriers, I won’t be surprised.

[ALARI]

This is what happens when the army is smaller than the police force and all the guards. They feared their own people more than the enemy. Now, as always, those mobilized on themselves will pull everything, this is not the first time we have such a country.

[SSA]

This is where our army is smaller than "all kinds of guards there"? And even the police?

Your populist slogans are inappropriate! If you don’t know, then almost all combat units of the Russian Guard (and these are OMON, SOBR, former explosives) are fighting from the very beginning!
As for the Army, conscripts are not involved, only contract soldiers!

When is it with us "as always", the mobilized pulled on themselves ?! Just do not remember the Second World War!
There were no mobilized people either in Chechnya or in Afghanistan. The conscripts fought.

[ALARI]

The National Guard is not an army, OMON is not an infantry. So you yourself are engaged in populism, and even an excuse for everything that the authorities screwed up. How do conscripts differ from those mobilized, and both of them fight against their will. Not to be confused with contractors and volunteers.

[SSA]

You say [quote = ALARI] the army is smaller than the police force and all sorts of guards .. [/ quote]
- I answer you that the army is much!!! more police force! That's just from the whole army fighting BTG assembled from contract soldiers!

Don't you understand the difference between the entire army and its small component ONLY from contract soldiers?

[fuss] They were more afraid of their people than the enemy [/ quote]
- all the guards, as you put it, are excellent at fighting, no worse than the military, as you can see, they are not capable of fighting against "their people".

I asked you when it is [quote] as always, mobilized on themselves to pull everything [/ quote]? When did the mobilized fight at all? Double basses and conscripts fought in Afghanistan and Chechnya. Not a single person was mobilized.
[quote] How do conscripts differ from mobilized ones, and both of them fight against their will [/ quote]
Everyone! Starting from life experience, psyche, skills of 25-35 year old men who served, from yesterday's 18 year old schoolchildren.

[Stas157]

Quote: Cartalon

at best, 100 thousand regular troops

The National Guard is about 360 thousand. They are clearly needed at the front.

[Cartalon]

They don’t have artillery and other heavy weapons, if the Russian Guard is pushed to the front, they get something like the Wehrmacht’s airfield divisions, it seems that the composition is excellent, but there is no combat capability.

[ivan2022]

Quote: nPuBaTuP

Earlier, Ramzan Kadyrov told the heads of Chechnya that Russia has the ability to transfer up to half of all law enforcement officers to the special operation zone, which would amount to 2,5 million people.

Why is this included in the article?

Heh.. Heh... What are you afraid of?

[Elena111]

A huge army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is moving from the Kharkov region to Liman. Tomorrow there will be a counteroffensive. Why Liman is not getting stronger??? Military experts say that tomorrow is judgment day for the Bars.......Pray to all Gods for these guys!!!

[NeRTT]

And why not calculate the air defense systems of Ukraine using the "Azerbaijani" method: patch up the old AN-2s, fool around and launch them in a "flock", preferably at night in their direction .. And there already work out active air defense missiles and calculate the coordinates of launches .. Well, then "cast-iron carpet" can cover the accumulation of enemy forces ..

[UAZ 452]

It won’t work - NATO AWACS is now controlling the airspace there, and Ukrainian air defense systems are trying not to turn on their own radars at all, only just before the launch of missiles. But somehow I doubt that AWACS will not differentiate AN-2 from something significant.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: UAZ 452

It won’t work - NATO AWACS is now controlling the airspace there, and Ukrainian air defense systems are trying not to turn on their own radars at all, only just before the launch of missiles. But somehow I doubt that AWACS will not differentiate AN-2 from something significant.

There is Aerial Target Simulator - used for air defense training, created on the basis of missiles - in fact, a mark is created on the air defense radar "airplane" - the Avax radar, in principle, should receive such "target" for real aircraft, if not, then the designers must refine the ITC to the mind.
These are the ITCs that need to be hammered into air defense radars.

[UAZ 452]

But who's arguing? Need. But for this they need to really have. As it turned out, we have a lot of things on paper, or in a single demonstration copy. In the meantime, our commanders on the ground in their messages commemorate our artillery with a kind word, although they scold it for its lack of efficiency, but they generally remember less and less about aviation, and this is a bad sign.

[Sergey Drozdov]

Azerbaijanis have Boeings to scatter maize, but we ourselves need AN-2s in the near future for civil aviation.

[George Koval]

How many days there are reports about the Ukrainian assault on Krasny Liman (an important strategic hub) and not a word about sending our help (reserve) there.

[Pocc]

Where did our "heroes" of tank biathlon get lost ?? Why did we spend so much money on these shows?? We showed off in front of NATO, but we ourselves have not been able to defeat some Ukraine for 7 months? ((And the point, I believe, is not at all about ordinary fighters and grassroots commanders - they are trying as best they can ... It seems that if it weren’t for Iran with its drones ... It’s right that the zampotyl was dismissed. Only we need more set aside and send away ... To Wagner, for re-education.

[UAZ 452]

That's right, that the zampotyla was dismissed. Only it would be necessary to set aside more and send him far away ... To Wagner, for re-education.

Bulganin, who was removed, is already 67 years old. It has reached retirement age, even the current one. He would have to leave early for a well-deserved rest, but who will leave such a place on his own! But Mizintsev is young and early in modern times - only 60 years old. It’s just that in his entire career he didn’t have any side to the rear and supply, and how at this age, which can be safely called pre-retirement, a general who served in operational departments at various levels will master a completely new military specialty for himself ... However, if civilian builders can lead the MO, then this one is at least a military one.
And the second question - our operational-analytical structures have shown themselves so remarkably well that the person responsible for them can be moved to logistics support, so to speak, brought up to the same level?

[UAZ 452]

For their part, the Ukrainian military is using a bridgehead on our bank of the Seversky Donets for attacks. They reinforce the grouping located there, transporting military equipment across the river.

And only the Armed Forces of Ukraine know how to destroy crossings? Or our religion does not allow?

[Old ensign]

It's easier to tell the truth. Krasny Liman will fall before October 1st, it is in a semi-encirclement, this week they have advanced a lot next to it. Liman is strategically important for the continuation of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Further (it seems logical to me looking at the map) the Armed Forces of Ukraine will try to capture Svatovo.

[usm5]

Everyone is doing the right thing. The enemy has a numerical advantage and it is necessary to exhaust him in defensive battles in order to preserve shock reserves. And one should not hurry with a devastating offensive either (let them entertain themselves with thoughts of victory) until a combat-ready army of the appropriate size has been formed (at least 1 million on the line of contact). In the event of the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, NATO has a group of 700 concentrated in the immediate vicinity of Russia. Therefore, we must fight with a cool head and without too much noise, so as not to provoke NATO with our stupid and defiant actions at a time when our army is not yet ready for such an escalation. And in general, the war is not a place for tantrums men.

[Nikoha2010]

It seems that either Ukrainians or liberals are sitting here. What are you constantly whining about? Get out of here! Where are the moderators? I was banned forever for such thoughts, but hello here! I said there would be a war! Everyone lies to the Supreme! Shit flows from the TV, and the women roar. You [mate] MO explain what's really going on!

[Illanatol]

Quote: gsev

The mobilized must be trained for 2 months.

In Ukraine, most likely, consolidated (collected from different parts) units will be sent. And to compensate for the loss of l / s in parts in connection with the "business trip" and will use called-up reservists.
So the replenishment of the CBO will arrive not in 2 months, but earlier.

[kuztoday]

Everything is very slow. On the 6th-7th Balakleya is smashed. And Putin, in the Far East, is sitting on his lips, crushing Shoigu and Gerasimov at some "very necessary" exercises right now. Some godfathers are changing .. there is nothing more to do. Some kind of insanity in the country. Finally, 21 spoke out .. the servants began to fuss.

[Pilot]

And where should they go? They attack. Mixed in the trash good-bad. You can not demand from the people to understand the situation, after such a propaganda pumping. Ukrainians give their lives for the hero of TV series. Terpila, the Ukrainian people, slightly stoned, a little bit redneck, promoted by the means of mass pro-propaganda.

[Sniper]

Why not mobilize the entire composition of the National Guard, the entire composition of the OMAN, and other law enforcement agencies with combat experience .. to fight against ukrfascism ??

[cmax]

Quote: Sniper

Why not mobilize the entire composition of the National Guard, the entire composition of the OMAN, and other law enforcement agencies with combat experience .. to fight against ukrfascism ??

You can see the chaos in the leadership of the army, some kind of convulsive movements. There is no system, Kombat Khodakovsky writes about this in his notes. There is no analytics and miscalculation of the situation. Live for one day. Everyone is afraid for their fat post. That's the whole reason.

[SSA]

Probably because, dear, that the OMON and SOBR, who fought in Chechnya in the 90s, consisted of 30 year old men. And now it's 2022! You think at the age of 50, a SOBR pensioner, with all his wounds, illnesses, etc. grabs armor, helmet, machine gun and valiantly runs to storm?!

[cmax]

The results of eyewash and the level of leadership of the army really became visible. As it turned out, the normal army didn’t seem to exist. Prepared, prepared and we have a Potemkin village. They introduced a new parade uniform, but it did not help. Again, they will go out on patriotism, if possible. The country is not the USSR. Who would have thought it would turn out like this. Although money was allocated for the army, the only question is where it all went. We have workers 1 Avaks, 1 TU-204, a lot of cast iron instead of high-precision ones, etc., etc. All this is sad.

[the same doctor]

You can easily increase the efficiency of the same "cast iron" at times. But the guarantor is ready to pay a million soldiers, but not a hundred programmers. He dreams of getting rid of hectares.
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Well, the fact that the army does not have the proper amount of modern weapons before the war is normal. It shouldn't be too much. Let's take the same combat robot: a smartphone on a scooter with a machine gun. Or on a quadcopter. Accordingly, before the war it is necessary to have the capacity of a million scooters a year and 20 million smartphones. If a war happens, a million robots can be made from these bricks. And so for any technology: you need to have peaceful production in order to be able to produce weapons.
It is not necessary to scold for the lack of production of weapons before the war. It is necessary to scold for the lack of peaceful production ...

[the same doctor]

I don’t quite understand why there are no carpet bombings of the neighborhoods and places of concentration of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Why ruin our soldiers, if you can bomb from afar?\.

Option: make gliding bombs controlled by simple gyroscopes. A slightly upgraded hail missile control system would do just fine. There are, of course, nuances, such as the simultaneous detonation of all bombs, but this is solved by a simple clockwork.
One bomb won't go anywhere. The deviation will be up to km. But the same Tu-95 can take a hundred ODAB-500s (by weight) and drop them 20-30 km from the target. A hundred of them with one salvo are guaranteed to smash the regiment's concentration area.
These bombs will be easily intercepted by military air defense, which is also not bad. We'll deplete their air defenses.