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The head of Chechnya on yesterday's prisoner exchange: "It was carried out on Ukrainian terms, no one even consulted with the participants in the special operation"

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The head of Chechnya on yesterday's prisoner exchange: "It was carried out on Ukrainian terms, no one even consulted with the participants in the special operation"

The head of the Chechen Republic commented on the situation with yesterday's exchange. Recall that Russia exchanged 215 Ukrainian militants, including terrorists from Azov (* an organization banned in the Russian Federation) for 57 of our servicemen who were in Ukrainian captivity. It also became known that Ukrainian politician Viktor Medvedchuk was handed over to Russia, and before that, without any exchange (“with the assistance of the Saudi crown prince”), 10 foreign mercenaries were released, including those who were sentenced to death by the court of the DPR.


Ramzan Kadyrov spoke very frankly about this exchange, saying that the situation was incomprehensible to him.

The head of Chechnya is dissatisfied with the fact that no one even consulted with the active participants of the NWO in terms of exchange.

Ramzan Kadyrov:

I understand that at the top in the Ministry of Defense and the FSB it is much more visible, but I believe that criminals recognized as terrorists cannot be exchanged for servicemen. I would understand if there was an equivalent exchange - a soldier for a soldier, an agent for an agent. We have a lot of prisoners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, whom you change at least a hundred to one, they will still remain.

According to Kadyrov, it is obvious that the exchange was carried out on Ukrainian terms.

Ramzan Kadyrov notes that this is now in many ways a signal for the fighters on the front line: do not take the Nazis prisoner:

It is not right. Our fighters crushed the fascists in Mariupol, drove them into Azovstal, smoked them out of the basements, died, got wounded and shell-shocked. The transfer of even one of these "Azov" terrorists should have been unacceptable. And therefore, it is not surprising that the fighters who liberated Mariupol and are now at the forefront draw their conclusion - do not take the Nazis prisoner.

According to Ramzan Kadyrov, he can say that the Ukrainian militants who had previously offended the honor of the Chechen people during their time in captivity fully answered for their every word and tearfully repented.

At the end of his post in the TG, the head of Chechnya added that the situation would not affect the main thing - the readiness to fulfill any order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief.
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  1. opuonmed
    opuonmed 22 September 2022 19: 56
    +89
    Shari wrote

    The head of Ukrainian intelligence, speaking about the exchange, said that later, when "everyone is returned," he will tell who "works for us there," and, interestingly, "how we motivated them."

    Those who work in the Russian Federation.

    I personally didn't even doubt it.
    1. laws70
      laws70 22 September 2022 20: 00
      +75
      What's the point of SMERSH, if we have decision-makers, Ukrainophiles (to put it mildly) ..
      1. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 22 September 2022 20: 03
        +40
        Quote from: laws70
        What's the point of SMERSH, if we have decision-makers, Ukrainophiles (to put it mildly) ..
        Speak Russian - traitors ... And the word "SMERSH" should be put in quotation marks ...
        1. Magog_
          Magog_ 22 September 2022 20: 09
          +53
          Speak Russian - traitors.
          Traitors are those who betray. It's worse here: they trade.
          1. guest
            guest 22 September 2022 20: 54
            +20
            No, all the same, traitors, if they just traded, they would do it at a profit, but here at a loss.
            1. Magog_
              Magog_ 22 September 2022 21: 11
              -1
              and here at a loss
              How did you calculate it? Those who trade in life can always be bought - the question is how much? And you can betray under torture, in the dark hope that "they won't find out", to save your own or the life of a child, etc. "Without profit", as you put it...
              To betray is to foresee unfavorable circumstances in time, as they say.
              1. guest
                guest 22 September 2022 22: 09
                +2
                Well, for the country, it’s definitely at a loss, but for them personally, I also doubt that they will be able to use the money that they received will be frozen.
                1. Anatoly Salnikov
                  Anatoly Salnikov 23 September 2022 00: 12
                  -13
                  Why at a loss. But our guys now know that, God forbid, they will be pulled out for any reason.
                  1. guest
                    guest 23 September 2022 00: 31
                    +9
                    But was it really impossible to exchange ours for ordinary Armed Forces of Ukraine, and not the most inveterate terrorists?
                    1. Stinging Nettle
                      Stinging Nettle 23 September 2022 03: 35
                      +2
                      Quote: guest
                      But was it really impossible to exchange ours for ordinary Armed Forces of Ukraine, and not the most inveterate terrorists?

                      Go yourself to the Donbass and fall into the hands of these simple, kind VSUshniks!
                      At least these returned prisoners of ours say that they were beaten. They were immediately taken to hospitals. Who beat?
                      1. yuriy55
                        yuriy55 23 September 2022 04: 38
                        +11
                        Quote: Stinging_Nettle
                        Go yourself to the Donbass and fall into the hands of these simple, kind VSUshniks!

                        Enough with this whining. You, I suppose, also do not write from the trench.
                        Read what Ramzan Kadyrov wrote:
                        I understand that at the top in the Ministry of Defense and the FSB it is much more visible, but I believe that criminals recognized as terrorists cannot be exchanged for servicemen. I would understand if there was an equivalent exchange - a soldier for a soldier, an agent for an agent.

                        He has more rights to this than those who did not sit in the trenches ...
                        And what does Medvedchuk have to do with the NWO? He ate sweetly, slept soundly ... What did he do for Russia?
                      2. Administrator
                        Administrator 23 September 2022 05: 29
                        +1
                        Quote: yuriy55
                        And what does Medvedchuk have to do with the NWO? He ate sweetly, slept soundly ... What did he do for Russia?

                        MOSCOW, September 22 - RIA Novosti. Ukrainian opposition politician Viktor Medvedchuk facilitated the release of military personnel in 2014-2015, so including him in the last exchange was a kind of duty, said the head of the DPR, Denis Pushilin.
                        “We are familiar with Viktor Medvedchuk through the negotiation process, but even before the start of the Minsk talks, he also took part, including in the exchange of prisoners, so here it was a kind of duty for us, given how many guys we managed to release with his participation. And We all remember very well in 2014-2015 that the conditions were not better, but somewhere even worse," he said on the air of Rossiya 24.

                        SIMFEROPOL, September 22 - RIA Novosti. Opposition Ukrainian politician Viktor Medvedchuk has done a lot to protect and defend the interests of Russian people living in Ukraine, said Deputy Head of the Kherson Region Administration Kirill Stremousov on his Telegram channel.
                      3. silviu
                        silviu 23 September 2022 06: 13
                        +6
                        Stalin did not change his own son for a general, but here his godfather for a bunch of unchangeables and just for loot on the same
                        as if in Russia there is not enough of it and the entire SVO is being squandered because it is not prestigious to fight, but it is prestigious to make money with its help
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                      5. guest
                        guest 23 September 2022 15: 43
                        0
                        I wrote somewhere that the APUs are good? Just if you draw a parallel with the Second World War, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine is the Wehrmacht, and the Azov SS.
                  2. DymOk_v_dYmke
                    DymOk_v_dYmke 23 September 2022 00: 33
                    +8
                    Quote: Anatoly Salnikov
                    But our guys now know that, God forbid, they will be pulled out for any reason.

                    They will not, because they are not being pulled out.
                    1. silviu
                      silviu 23 September 2022 06: 21
                      +10
                      Those from Azovstal therefore all gave up because they promised that they would simply be bought out and that it would work as before
                  3. Dilettante grandfather
                    Dilettante grandfather 23 September 2022 05: 05
                    +16
                    Well, yes. As many as 57 people were pulled out. How many of our prisoners died? Why didn’t anyone pull them out, didn’t exchange them?!
                    We've all been lied to. They lied that they were executing sentenced foreign mercenaries. They lied that they would hold a tribunal for the Nazis from Azov.
                    Draw your own conclusions?
                    1. aglet
                      aglet 23 September 2022 09: 21
                      +2
                      "We've all been lied to"
                      Grebenshchikov has a song on this topic. becomes very important
                      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                        DymOk_v_dYmke 23 September 2022 13: 31
                        -1
                        Quote: aglet
                        "We've all been lied to"
                        Grebenshchikov has a song on this topic. becomes very important

                        Yes. There is. To the very point. hi
                  4. aglet
                    aglet 23 September 2022 09: 17
                    +3
                    "But our guys now know that they, God forbid, if anything will be pulled out for anyone."
                    not enough for all Medvedchuks
                2. Sevastiec
                  Sevastiec 23 September 2022 07: 48
                  +2
                  I advise you to turn to the experience of one constantly at war country that values ​​its people very much.

                  https://dev.abcdef.wiki/wiki/List_of_Arab–Israeli_prisoner_exchanges
          2. AdAstra
            AdAstra 23 September 2022 10: 37
            -1
            Then you need to say a traitor-trader.
        2. laws70
          laws70 22 September 2022 20: 17
          -13
          Speak Russian - traitors...

          Since Ramzan didn't say, then we won't either, otherwise questions to those who appointed may appear.. So you can go far.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 22 September 2022 20: 25
            +34
            Quote from: laws70
            Speak Russian - traitors...

            Since Ramzan didn't say, then we won't either, otherwise questions to those who appointed may appear.. So you can go far.

            Traitors jump in soft chairs THERE, NAVIRHU ...
            Muslims do not like being sold. And no one loves. He will take Ramzan, and he will withdraw his people from Ukraine.

            And even worse than that - they don’t remember the 90s in Moscow anymore?
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 22 September 2022 21: 41
              +31
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              Muslims do not like being sold.

              On this issue, I agree with Ramzan.
            2. Dilettante grandfather
              Dilettante grandfather 23 September 2022 05: 07
              +11
              He will take Ramzan, and he will withdraw his people from Ukraine.
              In my opinion, Kadyrov, although I have an ambiguous attitude towards him, has never deceived. Therefore, if he already said that the SVO will go to victory, then he will not lead anyone anywhere.
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 23 September 2022 06: 32
                +10
                Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
                In my opinion, Kadyrov, although I have an ambiguous attitude towards him, has never deceived. Therefore, if he already said that the SVO will go to victory, then he will not lead anyone anywhere.

                And he won't cheat. It's just that he, unlike most of our "figures", who can only look the authorities in the mouth and say a single phrase: "What do you want?" can afford to ask directly: "What the hell is going on?"
            3. silviu
              silviu 23 September 2022 06: 24
              +1
              Hardly because they are from a close circle, and they never touch such people.
        3. UAZ 452
          UAZ 452 22 September 2022 20: 20
          +56
          In this situation, as it is now, when they betray at such levels that Ramzan has no idea - how and by whom the decision was made, even if an analogue of "smersh" appears, most likely there will be the main nest of traitors, and they will put up against the wall just patriots of Russia. Moreover, it will be presented in such a way that the electorate will also applaud: so be it! Fuck them!
          1. Zoer
            Zoer 22 September 2022 21: 53
            +11
            Quote: UAZ 452
            In such a situation as now, when they betray at such levels that Ramzan has no idea - how and by whom the decision was made

            It's funny ... Can you imagine any figure, except for the commander-in-chief, who could make and implement this decision?
            But ...
            1. UAZ 452
              UAZ 452 22 September 2022 22: 01
              -1
              Note that you mentioned specific personalities (a specific person)!
              1. Zoer
                Zoer 22 September 2022 22: 23
                +9
                So what? What is the secret that without this face the sun does not rise over the country and the grass does not grow? From naivete...
            2. Netomsky
              Netomsky 23 September 2022 00: 36
              +5
              Quote: Zoer
              It's funny ... Can you imagine any figure, except for the commander-in-chief, who could make and implement this decision?
              But ...

              So it should be clear to anyone who has a normal intellect, that the decision to exchange was made by Putin, who suffers from Ukrainophilia, bleating about the "brotherly people", and for whom Medvedchuk is a godfather.
          2. chetvertak
            chetvertak 22 September 2022 23: 22
            +1
            From the cart, Sharia, the head of Ukrainian intelligence, talking about the exchange, said that later, when "everyone was returned," he would tell who "works for us there," and, interestingly, "how we motivated them."
            Those who work in the Russian Federation.
            If only someone with AP GDP has relatives from Ukraine
          3. Stas157
            Stas157 23 September 2022 01: 54
            +2
            Quote: UAZ 452
            and they will put the patriots of Russia against the wall. Moreover, it will be presented in such a way that the electorate will also applaud: so be it! Fuck them!

            Exactly. I immediately remembered Strelkov and the people's freemen in the Donbass.
        4. Tusv
          Tusv 22 September 2022 20: 29
          +9
          Quote: Greg Miller
          And the word "SMERSH" should be put in quotation marks ...

          Of course, I'm a stupid air defense, but how do you imagine Smersh to be quoted?
          1. Andrey Moskvin
            Andrey Moskvin 22 September 2022 20: 35
            +19
            That's right - Death. Death to Spies.
            And without quotes, like any abbreviation.
      2. Alexander Razin
        Alexander Razin 22 September 2022 20: 17
        +40
        Do you know why the Ukrainians win our negotiations? Because when the negotiations began in March, the first thing they did was shoot the negotiator. Of course they are barbarians. But it would not be bad for us to punish someone severely
      3. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 22 September 2022 20: 27
        +12
        Quote from: laws70
        What's the point of SMERSH, if we have decision-makers, Ukrainophiles (to put it mildly) ..

        Bablofils - more precisely.
      4. lelik613
        lelik613 22 September 2022 20: 33
        -2
        Learn the spelling thrush flies.
      5. Russian
        Russian 22 September 2022 21: 26
        +19
        It's only the beginning! And they are still waiting for the people to become crowds at the military registration and enlistment offices) When everything is sold from top to bottom, they don’t keep their words, and they still do everything quietly so that no one notices. And I suppose they betrayed the publicity, because a bunch of channels wrote about it
      6. opuonmed
        opuonmed 23 September 2022 07: 19
        0
        perhaps Ukrainian intelligence is playing its game and throwing such announcements
    2. Mraka
      Mraka 22 September 2022 20: 11
      +3
      Eee. Who is everything?
      Your comment text is too short.
      So long?
    3. t200404
      t200404 22 September 2022 20: 20
      +16
      Excuse me, we have a supreme one, does he not know this exchange ??? Medvedchuk will fall from the ceiling to him?
      1. Mraka
        Mraka 22 September 2022 20: 23
        +31
        Of course he does.
        And all this with his knowledge.
      2. sergo1914
        sergo1914 22 September 2022 20: 25
        -18
        Quote: t200404
        Excuse me, we have a supreme one, does he not know this exchange ??? Medvedchuk will fall from the ceiling to him?


        Maybe subordinates wanted to make a gift. But it turned out ... as always with these ... it turns out through ... "exchange of Medvedchuk"
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        2. Zoer
          Zoer 22 September 2022 21: 55
          +4
          Quote: sergo1914
          Maybe subordinates wanted to make a gift. But it turned out ... as always with these ... it turns out through ... "exchange of Medvedchuk"

          This is the level of a psychiatric hospital. Although, this almshouse cannot be called otherwise.
      3. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 22 September 2022 20: 32
        +26
        Quote: t200404
        Medvedchuk will fall from the ceiling to him?

        But from every iron they shouted that "We will not exchange Medvedchuk for anyone" ...

        The noise has calmed down, the wave has passed - now you can change it.
        But we don’t live in the XNUMXth century - you can’t hide from the Internet.

        Interesting ... And if Zelensky gets enough of Ukraine so much that they themselves want to hang him on Khreshchatyk (if he, Khreshchatyk, exists by that time) - will we also take him to Rostov "out of humanism"?

        Everything is as always - to whom the war is - to whom the mother is dear ... I thought that at least now it would not be the way it usually happens with us.
        Yeah ....
        1. Sergey Tankist
          Sergey Tankist 22 September 2022 20: 46
          +14
          No, Zelensky will go to Israel. He has already sent all his relatives there ...
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 22 September 2022 21: 06
            +7
            Quote: Sergey Tankist
            No, Zelensky will go to Israel. He has already sent all his relatives there ...

            He has a big choice - Israel, London, Miami...
            This is for Putin to live and live out here - which, in general, is normal for a statesman. When you don’t have to drape from the country so as not to be torn apart for how hard you worked for its “good”.

            One problem - to have time to escape in time. I don't know if it will? In a good way, with his affairs, yesterday it was necessary to bring down. And let anyone who wants to be there - at least the same "colonel" Arestovich takes the rap ...

            Your skin and your wallet is more expensive. Yes, but either because of greed the moment does not understand, or the owners are ordered to sit until the last. They promise to take out the last plane.
            Yeah ... Just believe them ... Look, the Humpback Dog in the other world is already, gosh, tortured to write explanatory devils about how he believed the Americans about the non-expansion of NATO to the east.
        2. carpenter
          carpenter 22 September 2022 21: 49
          +8
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          And if Zelensky gets Ukraine so much that they themselves want to hang him on Khreshchatyk

          Until Banderas start to surrender in droves, no one in Ukraine will start hanging Zelensky.
        3. Comrade
          Comrade 23 September 2022 04: 49
          +6
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          And if Zelensky gets Ukraine so much that they themselves want to hang him on Khreshchatyk

          Sorry to interrupt, I just couldn't get past. I am from Ukraine, we left there a long time ago, but my relatives remained. So, according to relatives, people there sincerely idolize Zelya, in their eyes he is a protector and father. The grounds are obvious - for example, he told the people that he would return the "Azov" people, and so he did. The boy said, the boy did.
          So he is an idol for the vast majority there, and they are ready to carry him in their arms.
    4. SaLaR
      SaLaR 22 September 2022 20: 20
      +41
      and who, after this shame, will believe Russia ...
    5. Chronos
      Chronos 22 September 2022 20: 42
      +2
      Quote: opuonmed
      Shari wrote

      The head of Ukrainian intelligence, speaking about the exchange, said that later, when "everyone is returned," he will tell who "works for us there," and, interestingly, "how we motivated them."

      Those who work in the Russian Federation.

      I personally didn't even doubt it.

      Strange statement. For the chief of intelligence. Valuable agents are not fired. Well, I don't even want to think about it
      1. 1939_1940
        1939_1940 22 September 2022 22: 19
        -3
        Ukrainians are pros in this matter .. They know how to wait and then file beautifully .. They make all the moves of the pros .. Oh, how many in the Kremlin are tense now .. It's like with Tyra, like Khodakovsky cried that they promised to be silent, but they themselves published everything .. So it will be now, while everyone is pissing with boiling water, they have a tactical pause ..
    6. BastaKarapuzik And
      BastaKarapuzik And 22 September 2022 21: 01
      -7
      It's all emotions. In fact, the Azov people were transferred to the care of Turkey, where they will remain until the end of the conflict. The mercenaries were exchanged at the request of the prince of Saudi Arabia (and there is someone else), it's all politics, but it also happens. Soon the UN vote, which decides little, but serves as a kind of marker.
      Medvedchuk is still a politician. This is not an ordinary soldier. The fact that he is a Ukrainian citizen adds a special piquancy. That is, Kyiv is changing its own citizens, not the military.
      And GENERALLY, ours must be pulled out of the dungeons. Those soldiers who are now fighting must be sure that they will be pulled out of captivity in any case. Otherwise, how to go on the attack?
      1. t200404
        t200404 22 September 2022 21: 32
        +4
        When you go on the attack, you don’t think about captivity, the army that thinks about captivity has lost. PS The question is not about 50 guys, but about a bear.
      2. Havoc
        Havoc 22 September 2022 21: 39
        +1
        Quote: BastaKarapuzikI
        It's all emotions. In fact, the Azov people were transferred to the care of Turkey, where they will remain until the end of the conflict. The mercenaries were exchanged at the request of the prince of Saudi Arabia (and there is someone else), it's all politics, but it also happens. Soon the UN vote, which decides little, but serves as a kind of marker.
        Medvedchuk is still a politician. This is not an ordinary soldier. The fact that he is a Ukrainian citizen adds a special piquancy. That is, Kyiv is changing its own citizens, not the military.
        And GENERALLY, ours must be pulled out of the dungeons. Those soldiers who are now fighting must be sure that they will be pulled out of captivity in any case. Otherwise, how to go on the attack?

        At least one sensible comment
        If possible, then our prisoners must be pulled out on any terms, from the hands of these cannibals.
        .
        1. Zoer
          Zoer 22 September 2022 22: 03
          +29
          Quote: Havoc
          If possible, then our prisoners must be pulled out on any terms, from the hands of these cannibals.

          And Yakov Dzhugashvili was not ours?
          Or give 1 ukra for our 4st, is that fair? So they would give all ukrov for one godfather and five of ours. According to your logic, the main thing is to get ours out. Only now, what about those of ours that are still there? Yes, there only a hundred of our Anglo-Saxons had to be demanded. This is just a betrayal, no matter how you shield it.
          1. Havoc
            Havoc 22 September 2022 22: 58
            -7
            Quote: Zoer
            Quote: Havoc
            If possible, then our prisoners must be pulled out on any terms, from the hands of these cannibals.

            And Yakov Dzhugashvili was not ours?
            Or give 1 ukra for our 4st, is that fair? So they would give all ukrov for one godfather and five of ours. According to your logic, the main thing is to get ours out. Only now, what about those of ours that are still there? Yes, there only a hundred of our Anglo-Saxons had to be demanded. This is just a betrayal, no matter how you shield it.

            If you don’t know, then several groups from the GRU and the NKVD were sent to release Yakov, only after reliable confirmation of his death, the operation was curtailed. And Stalin's catchphrase "I don't change privates for field marshals" is a myth
            . The group was abandoned behind the front line in 1942 in order to rescue Yakov already from the Sachsenhausen camp. All its members died, there were Spaniards in the group.
            About one such special operation in 1943, its participant, front-line soldier Ivan Kotenev, told in an interview with Nezavisimaya Gazeta. According to him, the group flew to Germany under the cover of night, etc.
            So they tried to get out more than once, while several groups were put down.
            You ask - what to do with those who remained in captivity, CHANGE, change on any terms, otherwise the slogan "Russians don't leave their own in the war" goes to hell
            I don’t give a damn about these Natsiks, it’s not now that they’ll get theirs later, but it’s not known that they sang in captivity. The life and health of my fellow citizens is more important to me.
            1. kuztoday
              kuztoday 23 September 2022 00: 03
              +11
              I don't understand why Ukraine is taking over? So they began to negotiate, and suddenly Ukraine says: let's have 200 of ours, here are 50 of yours. And our people say: well, let's go. So what? What kind of insanity is this?
              1. Andriuha077
                Andriuha077 23 September 2022 00: 24
                -1
                And today, tomorrow, not everyone can watch. Rather, not only everyone can watch, few can do it

                On October 19, 2011, a statement by V. V. Zhirinovsky was published regarding the deal to exchange Gilad Shalit for Palestinian prisoners. According to Zhirinovsky, what is happening may indicate Israel's intention to aggravate the situation.

                The exchange of terrorists for an Israeli corporal is now the main international event, which will be perceived as a provocation, a cunning ploy. It seems to be right, a noble act - to return your soldier, but if because of this more than a thousand terrorists are being issued, which means they are preparing for war. In order for these terrorists to take revenge - after all, they were imprisoned for 10, 15, 20 years ... In general, the situation is unstable. Possible aggravation of the situation in the Middle East, a provocation against Iran. Let's be ready for this.

                — V.V. Zhirinovsky[191][192]
                Gilad was released and handed over to his compatriots as part of a deal in exchange for 1027 Palestinian prisoners, more than 400 of whom were convicted by an Israeli court on charges of terrorism and the murder of about 600 Israelis[1][2][3].
                https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Шалит,_Гилад#Россия
                См. также
                https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Террористы,_освобождённые_в_рамках_сделки_Гилада_Шалита
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                1. kuztoday
                  kuztoday 23 September 2022 23: 36
                  -1
                  It's clear. Strelkov is right. This government is doing everything so that the Russian Federation is defeated
              3. Revival
                Revival 23 September 2022 21: 35
                +1
                Apparently that's how it is
                .......................
            2. Zoer
              Zoer 23 September 2022 10: 54
              -3
              Quote: Havoc
              If you don’t know, then several groups from the GRU and the NKVD were sent to release Yakov, only after reliable confirmation of his death, the operation was curtailed. And Stalin's catchphrase "I don't change privates for field marshals" is a myth
              . The group was abandoned behind the front line in 1942 in order to rescue Yakov already from the Sachsenhausen camp. All its members died, there were Spaniards in the group.
              About one such special operation in 1943, its participant, front-line soldier Ivan Kotenev, told in an interview with Nezavisimaya Gazeta. According to him, the group flew to Germany under the cover of night, etc.
              So they tried to get out more than once, while several groups were put down.

              Even if this is not nonsense with NG, which I have no doubt about, it’s all the same, to exchange and give the enemy’s propaganda a trump card, and trying to rescue by force, these are completely different things.
              1. Havoc
                Havoc 23 September 2022 11: 15
                +1
                Quote: Zoer
                Quote: Havoc
                If you don’t know, then several groups from the GRU and the NKVD were sent to release Yakov, only after reliable confirmation of his death, the operation was curtailed. And Stalin's catchphrase "I don't change privates for field marshals" is a myth
                . The group was abandoned behind the front line in 1942 in order to rescue Yakov already from the Sachsenhausen camp. All its members died, there were Spaniards in the group.
                About one such special operation in 1943, its participant, front-line soldier Ivan Kotenev, told in an interview with Nezavisimaya Gazeta. According to him, the group flew to Germany under the cover of night, etc.
                So they tried to get out more than once, while several groups were put down.

                Even if this is not nonsense with NG, which I have no doubt about, it’s all the same, to exchange and give the enemy’s propaganda a trump card, and trying to rescue by force, these are completely different things.

                What do you call nonsense, that you don’t know how to use the Internet, or it’s difficult to find information on the release of Yakov.
            3. Tatyana Makarova
              Tatyana Makarova 23 September 2022 11: 36
              +2
              Why so many cons? After all, you are right! CHANGE OUR GUYS // change on any terms, otherwise the slogan "Russians don't leave their people in the war" goes to hell //
              1. aurano
                aurano 24 September 2022 04: 18
                -1
                no doubt it is necessary to change, only they did not change them, but Medvedchuk. The guys went by steam locomotive, so such an unequal exchange. henceforth stubborn sentence to be carried out on the spot
            4. Boris Sergeev
              Boris Sergeev 23 September 2022 19: 04
              0
              What kind of pathos do you have when Russia has just abandoned its own people in the Kharkov region? Of course, they are not "godfather" like Medvedchuk...
        2. Alexander Razin
          Alexander Razin 22 September 2022 22: 24
          +6
          Excuse me, but any conditions have limits? For example, is it worth exchanging our prisoners for Kherson? Well, what - you need
          1. Havoc
            Havoc 22 September 2022 23: 15
            -10
            Quote: Alexander Razin
            Excuse me, but any conditions have limits? For example, is it worth exchanging our prisoners for Kherson? Well, what - you need

            Do not write nonsense.
            1. Alexander Razin
              Alexander Razin 23 September 2022 00: 04
              +9
              And why is it nonsense? Where do any conditions end?
              Let me remind you that you cannot negotiate with terrorists
              1. Havoc
                Havoc 23 September 2022 11: 42
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Razin
                And why is it nonsense? Where do any conditions end?
                Let me remind you that you cannot negotiate with terrorists

                You tell this to the Israelis, who are killing terrorists all over the world, but when it was necessary to pick up the corpse of their sergeant, they stupidly exchanged him for several hundred prisoners without question. And the US Pilot Rescue Service, any pilot knows that he will be pulled out, despite the losses.
        3. Revival
          Revival 23 September 2022 21: 27
          0
          Generally on any?
          Well, look, otherwise they will offer something completely final, but you suddenly don’t refuse, explain to us later what is better for us
      3. Nemchinov Vl
        Nemchinov Vl 22 September 2022 23: 44
        +1
        Quote: BastaKarapuzikI
        Those military that are fighting now, should make sure they get out from captivity anyway.
        ...? !! belay when exchanging,
        that Russia exchanged 215 Ukrainian fighters, including terrorists from "Azov" (* organization banned in the Russian Federation) for 57 of our military personnel
        ...? !! belay
        But can they have confidence in this scenario ...?!! request recourse recourse
      4. Dalmatia
        Dalmatia 23 September 2022 06: 38
        +3
        Quote: BastaKarapuzikI
        It's all emotions. In fact, the Azov people were transferred to the care of Turkey, where they will remain until the end of the conflict. The mercenaries were exchanged at the request of the prince of Saudi Arabia (and there is someone else), it's all politics, but it also happens. Soon the UN vote, which decides little, but serves as a kind of marker.
        Medvedchuk is still a politician. This is not an ordinary soldier. The fact that he is a Ukrainian citizen adds a special piquancy. That is, Kyiv is changing its own citizens, not the military.
        And GENERALLY, ours must be pulled out of the dungeons. Those soldiers who are now fighting must be sure that they will be pulled out of captivity in any case. Otherwise, how to go on the attack?


        The only sane comment. Thanks for understanding.
        And I would advise critics of the exchange to turn to the mothers of the military, who went through Nazi captivity, and ask why their sons, returning home, commit suicide by promotion the next morning.
        1. Tatyana Makarova
          Tatyana Makarova 23 September 2022 11: 41
          +3
          I also supported the exchange of our guys. I don't care about all political games! Russian soldier fighting for Russia must return home
        2. Revival
          Revival 23 September 2022 21: 28
          +1
          And you turn to the mothers of those whom these Azov Nazis killed, who died storming them.
          Or is it different!?
      5. Alt 22
        Alt 22 23 September 2022 15: 20
        0
        Well, it turned out the other way around - as far as it became known, neither the pilots, nor those mobilized from the LDNR, nor the military who were captured at the beginning of the war, participated in the exchange - only those who were captured during the "regrouping", more precisely, the retreat in the Kharkov region.
    7. Harald
      Harald 22 September 2022 21: 32
      +34
      @Pavement
      Personally, I didn't even doubt it.

      I was a West German officer for 23 years. I have been a guest of this blog for several months.
      I and many other former fellow officers are sympathetic to the formulated goals of the special operation, namely the demilitarization of Ukraine, the protection of the Russian population in southern Ukraine and the protection of Russia's sovereignty and freedom.
      But I am becoming more and more suspicious, because the chain of such messages is not interrupted, and what, obviously, must be done for the victorious conduct of the special operation, is not being done. I almost sympathize with the Allied soldiers and admire their patriotism. They continue to live despite this chain of wrong decisions and non-decisions. All my respect for them!
      1. SoloD
        SoloD 22 September 2022 22: 16
        +9
        It’s hard for me to imagine an exchange of an SS Gruppenfuehrer for some politician from Germany ... Let me remind you about another leader of the country who waged war, who said the phrase "We don’t change a soldier for a general .."
      2. My doctor
        My doctor 22 September 2022 22: 22
        -8
        The participants in this forum are not a representative sample of the entire people of the Russian Federation. It should be understood that the site from a patriotic platform on which topics related to the armed forces were discussed turned into a platform for the expression of people in a certain mental state.
      3. Alexey Graff
        Alexey Graff 23 September 2022 01: 49
        +1
        I support, but the chain of wrong decisions leads to disaster, it will obviously happen soon.
    8. smart ass
      smart ass 22 September 2022 21: 53
      +17
      I imagine how insulting it is for Romzan and his fighters
      1. Revival
        Revival 23 September 2022 21: 40
        -1
        There is only one way out of such a disgrace: to resolve the issue of stopping the extraction on the spot
    9. Vic Vic
      Vic Vic 23 September 2022 20: 13
      0
      Of course, such mutual statements should be made by opponents regarding their undercover victories in order to bring discord and suspicion on the opposite side.
      In fact, it may be so, or it may not be so at all, but such a public statement of the enemy is designed exclusively for our audience ...
  2. wandlitz
    wandlitz 22 September 2022 19: 56
    +42
    IMHO. "Azov" and others. Do not take prisoner.
    1. Andrey Moskvin
      Andrey Moskvin 22 September 2022 20: 39
      +19
      I wrote not so long ago, do not take the Nazis prisoner, they filled up with minuses. Did you see the light today? Or herd instinct after the first.
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 22 September 2022 20: 49
      +10
      Quote: wandlitz
      IMHO. "Azov" and others. Do not take prisoner.

      Definitely. Only those who are in the Armed Forces of Ukraine can be considered for captivity, all the rest - Azovs, Krakens, Pravoseks, etc. with foreign mercenaries, at an expense.
      If the entire Mariupol leadership of Azov was released on a Turkish beach to lie down, then why now arrange a tribunal with ordinary gangsters when they can be convicted in the usual judicial order? request
    3. Harald
      Harald 22 September 2022 21: 08
      +15
      I was a West German officer for 23 years. We have already discussed this topic several times here on topwar.
      And I still believe that as long as the struggle continues, all weapons must be ruthlessly used.
      But an enemy who surrenders must be taken prisoner and protected by international law.
      The West is already committing too many "war crimes". It is also fundamentally not supposed to kill some prisoners of war. It's also very stupid because it motivates others to fight longer and harder. As a result, this stupidity costs the lives of even more of our soldiers!
      1. Machito
        Machito 22 September 2022 21: 38
        +12
        Quote from Harold
        I was a West German officer for 23 years. We have already discussed this topic several times here on topwar.
        And I still believe that as long as the struggle continues, all weapons must be ruthlessly used.
        But an enemy who surrenders must be taken prisoner and protected by international law.
        The West is already committing too many "war crimes". It is also fundamentally not supposed to kill some prisoners of war. It's also very stupid because it motivates others to fight longer and harder. As a result, this stupidity costs the lives of even more of our soldiers!

        You all say correctly: if you raise your hands up, then you give up, you can’t kill. We are not some European barbarians. If he surrenders, then he is captured. Therefore, it is necessary to shoot earlier, while he did not have time to raise his hands. am Then you didn’t take prisoners and didn’t shoot prisoners. good
        1. Living7111972
          Living7111972 23 September 2022 00: 53
          +9
          maybe he wants to throw two grenades? I’m not risky, I shot, threw a grenade (suddenly he doesn’t have it) and everyone is calm ... The enemy never gives up
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 23 September 2022 00: 55
          +4
          Quote: Bearded
          If he surrenders, then he is captured. Therefore, it is necessary to shoot earlier, while he did not have time to raise his hands. Then you didn’t take prisoners and didn’t shoot prisoners.

          This is an argument in favor of using TOC.
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      3. carpenter
        carpenter 22 September 2022 21: 59
        +1
        Quote from Harold
        As a result, this stupidity costs the lives of even more of our soldiers!

        You mean наших, is it West German, or Russian?
    4. Havoc
      Havoc 22 September 2022 23: 31
      +3
      Quote: wandlitz
      IMHO. "Azov" and others. Do not take prisoner.

      I probably will not speak in unison, but only in captivity.
      1. In captivity, there is a chance to clear the head of a simple soldier, we do not take into account the Nazis, I agree here, only destruction
      2. Each person killed gives us 10 or even more "bloodlines" among the civilians, these are parents, wives, brothers, sisters and other relatives, and this is probably what Westerners are trying to achieve. A complete split among Russians and Ukrainians. A person can be gradually re-educated, but if your father or husband was killed, then that's it. That's why Westerners want as many Ukrainians as possible to die, and Russians too.
  3. Greg Miller
    Greg Miller 22 September 2022 19: 57
    +71
    Medvedchuk... It was a colossal mistake of ours... It was impossible to accept him even for free... It will be very difficult to explain to our people that he was not the main target of the exchange. Moreover, how ours behaved in the information field, announcing the release of our servicemen from captivity and cowardly keeping silent about Medvedchuk.
    1. Al manah
      Al manah 22 September 2022 20: 00
      +21
      Well, even Ramzan did not dare to mention him, as I understand it.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 22 September 2022 20: 04
        +16
        Quote: Al Manah
        Well, even Ramzan did not dare to mention him, as I understand it.

        Such a significant figure?
        Stop it.
        If he did not mention it, then he did not consider it necessary.
        Kadyrov said the most important thing that worries many Russians now.
        1. Jeremiah
          Jeremiah 22 September 2022 20: 21
          -23
          After Kharkov, he also tore his vest, and the next day he skied back.
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 22 September 2022 20: 24
            +4
            Quote: Jeremiah
            After Kharkov, he also tore his vest, and the next day he skied back.

            Your opinion about Kadyrov is very important for everyone.
            Only you forgot to introduce yourself.
            You see, everyone knows Kadyrov, friends and foes alike.
            But no one knows you here.
            1. Jeremiah
              Jeremiah 22 September 2022 20: 27
              -16
              But no one knows you here.

              So what? Does anyone here know you?
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 22 September 2022 21: 17
                +13
                Quote: Jeremiah
                So what? Does anyone here know you?

                Do you understand what's going on?
                As soon as a negative event occurs associated with the SVO, on the same day, accounts are registered on the Military Review that, without warming up, rush into battle against Putin, the Kremlin and the leadership of the RF Armed Forces.
                After the Kharkov retreat, someone aptly called such fighters of the information front Septemberats.
                And again, twenty-five.
                Incomprehensible exchange scheme.
                Society dissatisfaction.
                And fresh one-day, criticizing Kadyrov.
                Already to someone, to whom, and to Kadyrov, the Russians now have the fewest questions.
                Don't screw up, boy.
                1. Jeremiah
                  Jeremiah 22 September 2022 21: 32
                  -17
                  Do you understand what's going on?

                  I understand if you don't know. The workshop of Prigozhin’s troll factory works here, which, if they failed to crush the psychologically dissatisfied with the authorities, then they bombard this account with complaints and minuses (and sooo quickly, that is, they work clearly coordinated). Then you have to register a new account.
                  In addition, the uryaks in turbo mode plus each other, which is why the "marshals" are almost exclusively Kremlinbots.
                  I won’t even comment on the rest of your copy-paste from the Kremlin manual.
                  1. Flooding
                    Flooding 22 September 2022 21: 40
                    +13
                    Quote: Jeremiah
                    don't you know. The workshop of the Prigozhin troll factory works here, which, if they failed to crush the psychologically dissatisfied with the authorities

                    I do not presume
                    but heard about it

                    and I know for sure that herds of provocateurs from Ukraine are grazing here

                    Quote: Jeremiah
                    I won’t even comment on the rest of your copy-paste from the Kremlin manual

                    yes, any manual from the Kremlin is better than your pro-Bandera howls

                    Quote: Jeremiah
                    they bombard this account with complaints and minuses (and sooo quickly, i.e. they work in a clearly coordinated way). Then you have to register a new account.
                    In addition, the uryaks in turbo mode plus each other, which is why the "marshals" are almost exclusively Kremlinbots.

                    Name and show your old accounts.
                    The same false ephemera?
                    For ten years I was banned more than once or five. And for months, and for years.
                    It didn't stop me from saving my account.
                    And all you have to do is lie.
                    "Suffered for the Truth"
                    1. Jeremiah
                      Jeremiah 22 September 2022 22: 17
                      -11
                      The same false ephemera?

                      If you are talking about a possible "regrouping", about "we do not abandon our own" in the east of the Kharkov region, about cabriolet and air supremacy, then yes, they are just as "nonsense".
                      And for months, and for years.

                      Now they are banned indefinitely.
                      And all you have to do is lie.

                      I have us ... specifically for your opinion.
                      1. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 22: 32
                        +4
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        If you are talking about a possible "regrouping", about "we do not abandon our own" in the east of the Kharkov region, about cabriolet and air supremacy, then yes, they are just as "nonsense".

                        I'm talking about your previous accounts that you were banned "for the truth", a prisoner and a sufferer from the regime.

                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        Now they are banned indefinitely.

                        Name the account, let me evaluate if it was for anything.
                        Though they wiped it for sure, but something remained.

                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        I have us ... specifically for your opinion.

                        If I write that I am surprised, it will not be true.
                        Of course you don't give a shit.
                        It's an opinion you don't like.
                      2. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 22 September 2022 22: 44
                        -2
                        I'm talking about your previous accounts that you were banned "for the truth", a prisoner and a sufferer from the regime.

                        Something like this is happening now.

                        Though they wiped it for sure, but something remained.

                        No, it must be admitted that everything remains, but apparently they want to discourage the desire to register again.
                        It's an opinion you don't like.

                        No, it's just about nothing and I went through it on 10 previous accounts. Have you seen the movie "Edge of Tomorrow"?
                      3. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 22: 50
                        +3
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        Something like this is happening now.

                        I know how it goes.
                        He himself had it.
                        Nothing, I waited for an amnesty in a year and a half.

                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        No, it's just about nothing and I went through it on 10 previous accounts. Have you seen the movie "Edge of Tomorrow"?

                        In the film, reincarnations helped not to repeat previous mistakes and eventually get closer to the goal.
                      4. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 22 September 2022 23: 01
                        -3
                        Nothing, I waited for an amnesty in a year and a half.

                        In a year and a half, maybe neither me nor the country will exist. What to expect?
                        In the film, reincarnations helped not to repeat previous mistakes and eventually get closer to the goal.

                        The problem here is that my mistakes were not there, but I continue to move towards the goal.
                      5. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 23: 13
                        +3
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        In a year and a half, maybe neither me nor the country will exist.

                        I don't know about you.
                        We are all mortal.
                        As for the country, I am sure that it will stand, win and be cleansed.
                      6. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 22 September 2022 23: 53
                        -3
                        Quote: Flood
                        As for the country, I am sure that it will stand, win and be cleansed.

                        You have such confidence in your job description. But, faith in the temple is good. Here is an interesting article that I remembered https://topwar.ru/199534-polskij-general-v-otstavke-ukrainskaja-armija-realizuet-strategiju-polzuchego-kontrnastuplenija.html#comment-id-12704020
                        You there, too, neighed over the opinion of two "Polish". Don't read Anglasak newspapers before dinner, you'll get gastritis.
                      7. your1970
                        your1970 23 September 2022 08: 27
                        +1
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        No, it must be admitted that everything remains, but apparently they want to discourage the desire to register again.
                        It's an opinion you don't like.

                        No, it's just about nothing and I went through it on 10 previous accounts. Have you seen the movie "Edge of Tomorrow"?

                        name any of the accounts - that you were banned 10 times.
                        In my memory, only MIKHAN is cut like that
                      8. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 23 September 2022 08: 33
                        0
                        Quote: your1970
                        name any of the accounts - that you were banned 10 times.
                        In my memory, only MIKHAN is cut like that

                        For example, Virtual_III
                      9. your1970
                        your1970 23 September 2022 09: 53
                        0
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        Quote: your1970
                        name any of the accounts - that you were banned 10 times.
                        In my memory, only MIKHAN is cut like that

                        For example, Virtual_III

                        Quote: Flood
                        Another September.
                        Banned without a single comment.

                        Well, it means that at least 1 account was swearing/aggressive - since then they started banning by IP
                      10. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 23 September 2022 14: 49
                        -2
                        Quote: your1970
                        Well, it means at least 1 account was with a mate/aggression

                        Does not mean. Although, there is a turbo-patriot and a kremlebot here for aggression, it is possible.

                        Quote: Flood
                        Banned without a single comment.

                        Here is a colleague in the shop giving you vodka:
                        Quote: Visitor_SAM
                        His closest banned nicknames: Virtual, Virtual_II

                        Read there.
                        Quote: Visitor_SAM
                        as he himself voiced, to bring under the "ban".

                        I didn't voice it. I voiced that Prigozhin’s trolls are bringing under the ban here, who:
                        Quote: Visitor_SAM
                        They work hard.


                        Quote: Visitor_SAM
                        If the Site Administration, at least in the news, would allow you to see, even if only "plus"

                        And why not show only positive and negative turbo-patrites?
                        Quote: Flood
                        You understand it.
                        I understand it.

                        It's good that you gathered so tightly, someone will have fewer illusions.
                        Quote: Flood
                        Their comments fit very well with the dissatisfaction of the local public.

                        Does their dissatisfaction arise out of nowhere, or is Biden, NATO and CIPSO also to blame for everything?
                      11. Flooding
                        Flooding 23 September 2022 09: 23
                        0
                        https://topwar.ru/user/Virtual_III/


                        Another September.
                        Banned without a single comment.
                        Possibly by IP address.
                        He has ten of them according to his own words.
                      12. Apprentice_SAM
                        Apprentice_SAM 23 September 2022 09: 53
                        +2
                        Quote: Flood
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        If you are talking about a possible "regrouping", about "we do not abandon our own" in the east of the Kharkov region, about cabriolet and air supremacy, then yes, they are just as "nonsense".

                        I'm talking about your previous accounts that you were banned "for the truth", a prisoner and a sufferer from the regime.

                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        Now they are banned indefinitely.

                        Name the account, let me evaluate if it was for anything.
                        Though they wiped it for sure, but something remained.

                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        I have us ... specifically for your opinion.

                        If I write that I am surprised, it will not be true.
                        Of course you don't give a shit.
                        It's an opinion you don't like.


                        Hello Vladimir!
                        Your opponent is a "torpedo")
                        It is issued for provocation, including, as he himself voiced, for summing up under the "ban".
                        His closest banned nicknames: Virtual, Virtual_II, Virtual_III
                        If you wish, you can also calculate the "torpedo bomber", but there have been a lot of them here lately. They work hard. Under the "merchants" and "fishermen" mow. But there is also a "krupnyak" that lies quietly on the ground)
                        If the Administration of the site, at least in the news, allowed to see, even if only "plus", and it would be easier to understand who is who.
                      13. Flooding
                        Flooding 23 September 2022 10: 39
                        +1
                        Quote: Visitor_SAM
                        Hello Vladimir!
                        Your opponent is a "torpedo")
                        It is issued for provocation, including, as he himself voiced, for summing up under the "ban".
                        His closest banned nicknames: Virtual, Virtual_II, Virtual_III

                        You understand it.
                        I understand it.
                        And I enter into this correspondence only so that no one has any illusions about the true goals of such characters.
                      14. Apprentice_SAM
                        Apprentice_SAM 23 September 2022 11: 58
                        +1
                        You understand it.
                        I understand it.
                        And I enter into this correspondence only so that no one has any illusions about the true goals of such characters.


                        But these characters are twinks, they don’t make much of a difference, but those who stand behind them, who are in the shadows, have weight and influence the forum. After all, someone raises the rating of twins, some of them stay afloat for a long time, although "self-like" is the most serious sin in all forums)
                        Against "spare" nicknames (in case of a ban, let's say) I have no complaints, but ... "with myself", and even in public ...
                        (Somewhere in "Voronezh" Ivan 2022 stuttered, aka ort, aka...)
                      15. Flooding
                        Flooding 23 September 2022 12: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: Visitor_SAM
                        But these characters are twinks, I don’t do special weather

                        Forced to disagree with you.
                        Their comments fit very well with the dissatisfaction of the local public, creating the effect of mass character.
                        I would not underestimate the results of their activities.
                      16. Apprentice_SAM
                        Apprentice_SAM 23 September 2022 13: 57
                        +2
                        I worded my idea a little wrong.
                        Of course, you are right, mass character matters, but it's one thing when "dummies" create mass character, and quite another when "fat" twinks create mass character. And there are more and more of them every day. And they are well aware that the rating - matters. Here, at least a fresh example, is a comment from invisible_man:

                        PS Who stole 2000 points from my rating yesterday? There were practically no cons. How not ashamed?


                        The question is, who "fattened" this invisible_man? )
                        The number of twinks + "weight" (rating), so they will crush the forum, bury it. I'm afraid that the site Administration will not be able to react, you can't keep track of all the twins and their creators. Only on a tip, and for this it should be clear who feeds whom)
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                2. t200404
                  t200404 22 September 2022 21: 35
                  -3
                  Criticism on the case or not? If in the case, what difference does it make when a person registered
                  1. Flooding
                    Flooding 22 September 2022 21: 45
                    +5
                    Quote: t200404
                    what difference does it make when a person registers

                    As you can see, there is a difference.
                    I have tried to explain it above.
                    And if such a correct criticism is in the suit and in the vein of the Bandera junta, then well, what the hell, such criticism.
                    It is worth tempering it for the time being.
                    1. Zoer
                      Zoer 22 September 2022 22: 17
                      0
                      Quote: Flood
                      And if such a correct criticism is in the suit and in the vein of the Bandera junta, then well, what the hell, such criticism.
                      It is worth tempering it for the time being.

                      Yes, yes, everything is as usual. Piss in the eyes, all God's dew.
                      Previously, it was impossible to criticize when they were stealing from the budget, and in the state defense order it was immeasurable. It was impossible to rock the boat. Now, when our guys are dying BECAUSE OF TOTAL THEFT and the impotence of power in all matters other than theft, it is also impossible. To help the enemy, how can you ... Well, then, either we will throw meat, but it is classified, or we will sit in a deep hole, and there will be no one to ask.
                      Everything is as usual, the idiocy of the upper-level elites.
                      PS: both your tone and style clearly define you as a Prigogine employee. So I want to remind you that when Concorde was being formed at the tenders of the Ministry of Defense, Prigogine did not badly rob the Moscow Region, for which Shoigu pressed the supply of the Wagnerites in Syria. And now this same "statist" is wandering around the zones, saving Russia.
                      Well, that's right, to remind you who you're pinning on ...
                      1. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 22: 27
                        0
                        Quote: Zoer
                        Now, when our guys are dying BECAUSE OF TOTAL THEFT and the impotence of power in all matters except theft, it is also impossible

                        Zenki did not climb out?
                        Well, read with your lupals, what are we talking about.
                        If Kadyrov has already begun to be criticized, then the price of such criticism is a broken penny.

                        Quote: Zoer
                        PS: both your tone and style clearly define you as a Prigogine employee

                        You probably know them well enough to judge that.
                        Of course, it would be interesting to know where.
                        But I'll skip.
                        I don't care about your dirty laundry.

                        Quote: Zoer
                        Well it is, remind you who you're gearing up for

                        You would cover the fountain of your stereotyped wit.
                        I'll be offended and write something in the heat of the moment.
                      2. Zoer
                        Zoer 22 September 2022 22: 40
                        -2
                        Quote: Flood
                        I'll be offended and write something in the heat of the moment.

                        Write-write, trollolo)))
                      3. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 22: 44
                        -1
                        Quote: Zoer
                        Write, write, trollolo

                        Is it all out already?
                        And I just started warming up.
                        You, if you want to rattle with hardened phrases - come back.
                        I will take it as my own.
                      4. Zoer
                        Zoer 22 September 2022 22: 49
                        -3
                        Quote: Flood
                        Zenki did not climb out?
                        Well, read with your lupals, what are we talking about.
                        If Kadyrov has already begun to be criticized, then the price of such criticism is a broken penny.

                        Yes Yes..
                        Quote: Flood

                        Do you understand what's going on?
                        As soon as a negative event occurs associated with the SVO, on the same day, accounts are registered on the Military Review that, without warming up, rush into battle against Putin, the Kremlin and the leadership of the RF Armed Forces.
                        After the Kharkov retreat, someone aptly called such fighters of the information front Septemberats.

                        No, we should rejoice in gestures of goodwill, regroupings and spontaneous combustion with pops ...
                        Burn more, internet explorer.
                      5. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 22: 58
                        0
                        Quote: Zoer
                        No, we should rejoice in goodwill gestures, regroupings and spontaneous combustion with clapping

                        Who are you?
                        The same accounts that suddenly appear out of nowhere, as soon as a wave of discontent arises in Russian society.
                        Who you are? Where were you before?

                        Quote: Zoer
                        Yes

                        Raise the lupal higher.
                        The place where this cheerful correspondence began.

                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        After Kharkov, he also tore his vest, and the next day he skied back.

                        Quote: Flood
                        Your opinion about Kadyrov is very important for everyone.
                        Only you forgot to introduce yourself.

                        Everything has to be done for you, fool.
                      6. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 22 September 2022 23: 10
                        0
                        Who you are? Where were you before?
                        And then they register immediately at birth with the issuance of a TIN as in the IFTS?
                        Heard this joke:
                        A boy was born in the family. Dumb. A year is silent, two, five, ten years is silent. One fine day, mother poured a bowl of soup for her son. He sits and watches his son eat. Suddenly the son puts down the spoon and says:
                        - Unsalted soup!
                        - Lord, spoke, spoke!
                        - Yes, I always said.
                        Why have you been silent all these years?
                        - Yes, everything was just fine ...

                        There was simply no such experience with the army, so they were at economic, political, covid forums. Such shnyaga in the country is not only with the army. It's just that in the end, always where the politicians have not worked out, the military will have to rake. Yes, there were ostentatious tank biathlons, but they thought that in the General Staff they were adequate with stripes and they understand that they can’t scare anyone with the first place in it, but now we understand that they were wrong.
                      7. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 23: 17
                        +2
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        There just wasn’t such an experience with the army, so they were at economic, political, covid forums

                        What is the way to be responsible for others?
                        I'm just saying it's bad manners.
                      8. Zoer
                        Zoer 23 September 2022 08: 45
                        -3
                        Quote: Flood
                        Who are you?
                        The same accounts that suddenly appear out of nowhere, as soon as a wave of discontent arises in Russian society.
                        Who you are? Where were you before?

                        Buddy bot, I have an account here since January 2019. So keep fantasizing. fellow
                      9. Flooding
                        Flooding 23 September 2022 08: 51
                        +1
                        Quote: Zoer
                        Buddy bot, I have an account here since January 2019.

                        It is a pity that this fact does not add to your mind.
                        And you pile up with those same one-day accounts.
                      10. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 22 September 2022 22: 49
                        -6
                        If Kadyrov has already begun to be criticized, then the price of such criticism is a broken penny.

                        Or maybe the cost of Kadyrov began to rapidly depreciate?
                        I'll be offended and write something in the heat of the moment.

                        Gospidya, well, give birth to something like that, which I have not yet seen here from the Kremlinbots.
                      11. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 23: 01
                        0
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        Or maybe the cost of Kadyrov began to rapidly depreciate?

                        After your comment?
                        No, your efforts have gone without a trace for society.
                        Pull yourself up.

                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        Gospidya, well, give birth to something like that, which I have not yet seen here from the Kremlinbots.

                        So I didn't write this to you.
                        Another account.
                        Get in line.
                      12. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 22 September 2022 23: 04
                        -6
                        After your comment?

                        No, of course, after a bunch of his words after the last zrad, which he then took in the ass.
                        Get in line.

                        For the sake of such a case, I am ready to wait.
                      13. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 23: 15
                        -1
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        No, of course, after a bunch of his words after the last zrad, which he then took in the ass

                        Examples with quotes and links.
                      14. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 22 September 2022 23: 36
                        0
                        This is September 11 https://www.rbc.ru/politics/11/09/2022/631d0f5b9a79470ef8d8e79f Here is even more detailed
                        - I'm not a strategist, as in the Ministry of Defense. But mistakes were made. I think they will draw conclusions. When you tell the truth to your face, you may not like it. But I love to tell the truth. We talked with the commanders at the fronts;

                        It's a shame that nothing was said for several days. It is clear that people were not prepared for this. We always talk about our work;

                        - If today or tomorrow changes are not made to the conduct of a special military operation, I will be forced to contact the country's leadership in order to explain to them the situation on earth. She is very interesting, “awesome” I would say;


                        А это 14-го https://www.rbc.ru/politics/14/09/2022/6321d7969a7947047a414b27
                        Russian generals 'perfectly combine' various tactics: “stretch his [enemy] forces, pull, clamped into the cauldron, forced to go out into the field or lured into a trap,” he listed.

                        After the 11th, we were offered here to wait 2-3-4-5-6-7 days until "the cauldron slams shut" and "the gut stretches and it is chopped into vinaigrette." So, where is the boiler? Instead, Pischulin says that there is a high risk of a counter-offensive into the Donbass. Or not everything has been "combined" and shallowly "lured". Haven't started yet?
                      15. Flooding
                        Flooding 23 September 2022 08: 06
                        0
                        You're a liar.
                        You wrote something completely different.
                        Liar, provocateur and idle talker

                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        No, of course, after a bunch of his words after the last zrad, which he then took in the ass

                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        After Kharkov, he also tore his vest, and next day ski back.
                      16. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 23 September 2022 08: 27
                        -1
                        Those. Kissing the stripers on the ass three days later isn't that on the ass?
                      17. Flooding
                        Flooding 23 September 2022 08: 29
                        0
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        Those. Kissing the stripers on the ass three days later isn't that on the ass?

                        Poor bastard.
                        Even now you pretend not to understand.
                        Therefore, I was not too lazy to quote from your comments.
                      18. Tatyana Makarova
                        Tatyana Makarova 23 September 2022 12: 07
                        0
                        Yes, like you only walk in a woman's skirt)) Whatever the word, then in defiance. Your name is TRINDYCHA., with the ensuing conclusions. And yes, one more thing. You go down to jargon, which betrays you as an asocial type.
                      19. 41 REGION
                        41 REGION 23 September 2022 02: 47
                        -1
                        Quote: Zoer
                        PS: both your tone and style clearly define you as a Prigogine employee.

                        Your tone and style clearly define you as an employee of Arestovich wink
                    2. Jeremiah
                      Jeremiah 22 September 2022 22: 23
                      +4
                      And if such correct criticism is in the suit and in the vein of the Bandera junta

                      The suit is not because of criticism, but because of what stands behind it. Why was it necessary to flee from Kyiv and suffer that the Ukrainians falsified Bucha, why was it necessary to flee Kharkov and now say that terror is going on there? Maybe this should have been avoided? Why red lines that move wherever you like, why strikes at the CPR, which do not exist? Why exchange fascists and mercenaries for godfather, can now start kissing Bandera in the ass? And the right criticism is to blame for all this? Or criticism from the fact that they didn’t look under their feet after they stepped on the d ... o?
                      1. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 22: 34
                        -2
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        She suits not because of criticism, but because of what stands behind it

                        you already wrote before

                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        I have us ... specifically for your opinion.

                        be consistent and don't make me waste time again
                      2. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 22 September 2022 22: 46
                        -1
                        I'm not criticizing you, I'm ... what are you doing there and for what payment.
                      3. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 22: 53
                        -2
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        me...what are you doing there and for what payment.

                        You also don't give a shit if I'm writing my comments for pay or out of conviction.
                        Precisely because my opinion does not fit in your head.
                        So it needs to be branded and put a bunch on top.
                      4. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 22 September 2022 22: 55
                        -2
                        You also don't give a shit if I'm writing my comments for pay or out of conviction.

                        You are very naive if you think that paid turbo patriots cannot be identified from three notes, ugh, comments. No, of course, people are still hawking, but I can’t tell about this nonsense.
                      5. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 23: 10
                        -1
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        You are very naive if you think that paid turbo patriots cannot be identified from three notes.

                        If I know for sure whether you are mistaken about me (and I know absolutely reliably about myself), then I can judge your analytical skills and conceit with 100 percent certainty.
                        And you know, my conclusions are not in your favor.
                      6. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 22 September 2022 23: 12
                        -2
                        And you know, my conclusions are not in your favor.

                        Keep on living in those pink dreams.
                      7. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 23: 20
                        +1
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        Keep on living in those pink dreams

                        Do you think that I may not know if I write comments for pieces of silver or do it selflessly?
                        I assure you, this is not possible.
                    3. t200404
                      t200404 23 September 2022 00: 03
                      -1
                      There is truth in this. But if you don’t criticize at all, the banks will lose and all polymers will be ruined
                3. Alexander Razin
                  Alexander Razin 22 September 2022 22: 27
                  +3
                  You see, when a negative event occurs, citizens begin to burn. And even more so when a negative event is like that. This is not a cruiser Moscow - this is a deliberate betrayal
                  1. Flooding
                    Flooding 22 September 2022 22: 35
                    -1
                    Quote: Alexander Razin
                    You see, when a negative event occurs, citizens begin to burn. And even more so when a negative event is like that. This is not a cruiser Moscow - this is a deliberate betrayal

                    And everything would be fine, if among these citizens the atmosphere was not warmed up by professional commentators from the other side.
                    Do you understand ...
                    1. Jeremiah
                      Jeremiah 22 September 2022 22: 52
                      +2
                      And everything would be fine, if among these citizens the atmosphere was not warmed up by professional commentators from the other side.

                      Was it difficult to earn a salary? Have you ever imagined that not everyone in Russia is easy to ride on the ears according to Prigozhin's manuals and that many people really understand what kind of anus the country is in?
                      1. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 23: 07
                        0
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        Was it difficult to earn a salary?

                        You don't shine with diversity, I'll see.
                        I just don’t understand why you didn’t like my version that you just work out the hryvnia honestly.
                        Why is my version better than yours?
                        I think I have reason to believe so.
                        Come on like this:
                        you consider me Prigozhin's collaborator.
                        I, in turn, will consider you a cissoshnik.
                      2. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 22 September 2022 23: 16
                        -1
                        you consider me Prigozhin's collaborator.
                        I, in turn, will consider you a cissoshnik.

                        Yes, no questions asked. Just what it changes in this:
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        Why was it necessary to flee from Kyiv and suffer that the Ukrainians falsified Bucha, why was it necessary to flee Kharkov and now say that terror is going on there? Maybe this should have been avoided? Why red lines that move wherever you like, why strikes at the CPR, which do not exist? Why exchange fascists and mercenaries for godfather, can now start kissing Bandera in the ass?

                        and in this:
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        Or maybe the cost of Kadyrov began to rapidly depreciate?

                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        After your comment?

                        No, of course, after a bunch of his words after the last zrad, which he then took in the ass.
                      3. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 September 2022 23: 23
                        -1
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        Yes, no questions asked. Just what does it change in this

                        Help trace the chain of cause and effect from the first quote to the name of Kadyrov in the second and third quotes.
                        Otherwise, I won't be able to figure this mess out.
                      4. Jeremiah
                        Jeremiah 22 September 2022 23: 39
                        -1
                        There is no connection between them - these are just independent facts, according to which you pretend that you do not see point-blank ..
                      5. Flooding
                        Flooding 23 September 2022 08: 08
                        0
                        Quote: Jeremiah
                        There is no connection between them

                        Exactly.
                        I already wrote above what I think of you.
                        After you failed to back up your own words.
                        I think you've had more than enough.
                    2. Revival
                      Revival 23 September 2022 21: 59
                      +1
                      And here the commentators are from which side, the atmosphere is warmed up by the "event" itself, how to deal with it and when !?
                      1. Flooding
                        Flooding 23 September 2022 22: 01
                        0
                        Quote: Revival
                        And here the commentators are from which side

                        Moreover, their problems are not discussed with the enemy. And here with direct participation almost in an embrace.
                        Look a little higher, where is Jeremiah now?
                        In the bath. And just recently, he told how one should not love Putin.
                      2. Dalmatia
                        Dalmatia 24 September 2022 06: 25
                        +1
                        [quote = Breakdown] [quote = Revival] And here are the commentators from which side [/ quote]
                        Moreover, their problems are not discussed with the enemy. And here with direct participation almost in an embrace.
                        Look a little higher, where is Jeremiah now?
                        In the bath. And most recently, he told how one should not love Putin.


                        I read your dialogue with Jerome.
                        On the site since 2014 and fully agree with you. You are well done.
                      3. Flooding
                        Flooding 24 September 2022 08: 20
                        +1
                        Quote: Dalmatia
                        On the site since 2014 and fully agree with you

                        Thank you.
                        The problem with good people is that they are often disconnected, unorganized, and inactive.
                        Whereas bad people act cohesively and assertively.
          2. Edas
            Edas 23 September 2022 18: 10
            0
            Kadyrov is a hot guy, but then he let go. And for the future, let the Azov people be given a pistol with one cartridge. He took advantage, so the officer, no - then drive to the minefield.
        2. UAZ 452
          UAZ 452 22 September 2022 20: 22
          +19
          So godfather! It can be seen that godfathers also fall under the definition of "we do not leave our own."
          1. Jeremiah
            Jeremiah 22 September 2022 20: 28
            -5
            Oh, and I thought it was about the east of the Kharkov region.
          2. Al manah
            Al manah 22 September 2022 22: 12
            +2
            Well, it looks like it is. It seems like you can understand ... But reluctance.
    2. Vladimir M
      Vladimir M 22 September 2022 20: 04
      +38
      It will be complete .... if someone thinks of putting Medvedchuk in charge of the liberated territories. This hoopoe had a hand in the surrender of Mariupol in 2014. The ears of Medvedchuk, Akhmetov, Poroshenko stick out behind the death of militia commanders .... interfered with business
      1. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 22 September 2022 20: 13
        +20
        Quote: Vladimir M
        It will be complete .... if someone thinks of putting Medvedchuk in charge of the liberated territories. This hoopoe had a hand in the surrender of Mariupol in 2014.

        Most likely, he will receive some important leadership post in the liberated territories. And about 2014, well, he was just scared, otherwise he is a patriot and loves the Russian ... government very much. And she reciprocates him, because he is for her - mine! And Putin, as everyone knows, does not abandon his own ...
        1. Adrey
          Adrey 22 September 2022 20: 48
          +3
          Quote: Greg Miller
          Most likely, he will receive some important leadership post in the liberated territories.

          Is he sick? After all, they will fill up at once request. In Rostov it is much warmer and softer hi
      2. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 22 September 2022 20: 29
        +3
        Quote: Vladimir M
        . This hoopoe had a hand in the surrender of Mariupol in 2014.

        There will be much more of our Medvedchuks.
    3. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 22 September 2022 20: 05
      +16
      This decision was made by people, obviously "not ours" ..
      1. UAZ 452
        UAZ 452 22 September 2022 20: 29
        +19
        But it is these people who make other life-changing decisions, including the decisions of the last days. And they also have full information on the plans, including strategic ones, the location and movement of units. So the question is: in whose interests do they make decisions? Who has access to all this information? In connection with all this, I am pessimistic about the prospects of the NWO, even if 3 million people are mobilized, and not 300 thousand.
        Now it’s stupid to remember, but not so long ago it was proposed to make the goal of saving the Russian people a national idea. Or is that exactly what it is?
        1. AdAstra
          AdAstra 23 September 2022 10: 56
          -1
          And all this is very helpful in improving the demographic situation in the country.
    4. ramzay21
      ramzay21 22 September 2022 20: 10
      +56
      Medvedchuk was the main object of the exchange, and it was for him that the foreign mercenaries and leaders of Azov were exchanged. The rest were changed in order to be able to at least somehow cover up this betrayal and disgrace. And this is a typical act of our guarantor.
    5. gunnady
      gunnady 22 September 2022 20: 30
      +35
      Are these ours ours?
      "Ours" for half a year of a strange non-war did not destroy and do not want to destroy the enemy's critical infrastructure.
      "Ours" have not yet provided the mobilized LDNR with ammunition.
      "Ours" does not in any way prevent the pumping of NATO weapons, the training and treatment of Vushniks in the West.
      "Nashi" allow ukrosaboteurs to kill pro-Russian activists in the liberated territories with impunity.
      "Nashi" have already surrendered several regions, substituting local residents who supported Russia under the repressions of the Ukronazis.
      And now "ours" are releasing Nazi criminals, whom they promised a hundred times not to extradite, in exchange for someone's godfather.
      Are these "ours" definitely on our side, and not on the side of Ukraine?
      1. Vladimir M
        Vladimir M 22 September 2022 20: 36
        +12
        Another question, is V.V. Putin does not know the fate of Nicholas 2 and his family (we will not argue now whether he was alive or not) and how many rivers of blood did this cost Russia? After all, European people will not spare either him or his family.
        1. gunnady
          gunnady 22 September 2022 20: 50
          +1
          Where, by the way, did he hide his daughters? Maybe they are already held hostage by the "Euromen"?
        2. t200404
          t200404 22 September 2022 21: 37
          -1
          One thing is good - a meeting where everyone nodded, no one will leave to the west.
          1. The comment was deleted.
      2. opuonmed
        opuonmed 22 September 2022 21: 21
        +5
        I'm thinking someone zhoska someone substitutes for the interests of the West!
        and if not, then I'm amazed at the stupidity of people at the top who live in a different reality or something
      3. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 23 September 2022 05: 27
        0
        if they are not ours, then why was the NWO started? to make yourself worse?
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 23 September 2022 06: 36
          -1
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          if they are not ours, then why was the NWO started? to make yourself worse?

          As an option, in order to raise their ratings on the wave of patriotism and write off the failures in the economy, because under them, after their "glorious" deeds, it was already burning down.
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 23 September 2022 07: 47
            0
            to risk so much power for the sake of ratings?
            1. lis-ik
              lis-ik 23 September 2022 09: 03
              -1
              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              to risk so much power for the sake of ratings?

              Precisely in order to stay in power.
        2. gunnady
          gunnady 23 September 2022 17: 43
          -1
          Ours would start a WAR, not a CBO.
          NWO is another half-hearted solution, like the Minsk agreements and Crimea before that.
          They wanted to make themselves better - so that there would be a victory and there would be no war, a quick, imperceptible police operation.
    6. Paul
      Paul 22 September 2022 21: 00
      +19
      It turns out that Medvedchuk is more important than retribution for ordinary people killed by the Nazis?! It turns out our guys are fighting for Medvedchuk?! It turns out that if they call me and my sons, then we will also take risks for Medvedchuk?!
    7. Mishka78
      Mishka78 22 September 2022 21: 17
      +9
      Quote: Greg Miller
      how ours behaved in the information field, announcing the release of our servicemen from captivity and cowardly keeping silent about Medvedchuk

      No less cowardly keeping silent FOR WHOM Medvedchuk was changed. And in what proportions...
  4. MMX
    MMX 22 September 2022 19: 58
    +18
    It was "extraction". We do not reflect.
    1. laws70
      laws70 22 September 2022 20: 11
      +13
      It was "extraction".

      Rather reverse denazification.
      1. gunnady
        gunnady 22 September 2022 20: 32
        +13
        Negative denazification.
        Comes with negative demilitarization.
    2. Mraka
      Mraka 22 September 2022 20: 25
      +5
      Exactly. All according to plan....
      And six months ago the mobilization was planned.
      Do not doubt))))
  5. Altmann
    Altmann 22 September 2022 19: 59
    +2
    I don't think we'll get more Ukrainian prisoners, you know, a dead enemy, that's for sure. But it could also be some kind of political action, and that's worse. I still respect Putin, but I'm wondering if Putin still rules Russia?? am
    1. Vladimir M
      Vladimir M 22 September 2022 20: 06
      +9
      Such thoughts also visit, otherwise it is impossible to explain what has been happening since February 24th.
    2. Mraka
      Mraka 22 September 2022 20: 26
      +4
      The problem is that ours are silent ...
      Lllllllllll
    3. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 22 September 2022 20: 33
      -13
      And if your children were taken hostage (this is just one of the possible options), what would you do to save them? A variant with some kind of super-killing compromising evidence is also possible, although it is unlikely - now anything can be concocted, but everything presented can also be declared fake.
      1. Al manah
        Al manah 22 September 2022 22: 25
        +6
        And what did Iosif Vissarionovich go for when he was offered to exchange the field marshal for his son?
        1. UAZ 452
          UAZ 452 22 September 2022 22: 38
          0
          Do you now see someone worthy of comparison with Joseph Vissarionovich? And who is this colossus?
          1. Al manah
            Al manah 23 September 2022 09: 14
            0
            No, I don't. But in my understanding, any Supreme Commander in our country should strive for the ideal that is the IVS. Unfortunately, my opinion does not coincide with the opinion of the current Commander-in-Chief.
          2. AdAstra
            AdAstra 23 September 2022 11: 00
            -1
            So we are trumpeted from every iron that V.V. Putin in his dignity at least twice surpassed I.S. Stalin. The same friend of Soviet children, workers, peasants, Siberian Cranes, Amur tigers, etc. etc.
        2. your1970
          your1970 23 September 2022 08: 36
          0
          Quote: Al Manah
          And what did Iosif Vissarionovich go for when he was offered to exchange the field marshal for his son?

          Firstly, he did not say his famous phrase - it was later invented for the cinema.
          Secondly, three groups of scouts were sent to confirm their identity. In the future, it was planned to steal. The groups died, the plan did not materialize.
          1. Al manah
            Al manah 23 September 2022 09: 17
            +2
            In any case, he did not give consent to the exchange. And now a bunch of vile Nazis are being exchanged for godfather, whose hands are up to the elbows in blood.
          2. Dalmatia
            Dalmatia 24 September 2022 06: 36
            0
            Quote: your1970
            Quote: Al Manah
            And what did Iosif Vissarionovich go for when he was offered to exchange the field marshal for his son?

            Firstly, he did not say his famous phrase - it was later invented for the cinema.
            Secondly, three groups of scouts were sent to confirm their identity. In the future, it was planned to steal. The groups died, the plan did not materialize.


            Our people do not know that this phrase was invented for cinema.
            And during the Second World War there were exchanges of prisoners, but our people do not know about this either, they do not know yet.
    4. Hermit
      Hermit 22 September 2022 20: 37
      +10
      They returned the Ukronazis, and now they will not take prisoners mainly those whom the Nazis themselves call meat, minced meat. Of course, it is not fair that the Terbatovites will be responsible for the Nazis, but in battle there is no time to sort hu is hu. And our guys from the battlefield pull out wounded dill, give them a smoke, a drink. It will be hard for them to show humanity now.
      1. UAZ 452
        UAZ 452 22 September 2022 22: 42
        +3
        Should everyone who surrenders be taken prisoner, or does someone really want to fight an enemy who has nothing to lose? And why such masochism? But what to do with those who steal the fruits of victories from our soldiers (which are already less than we would like) is a difficult question, but it must be solved, otherwise everything is pointless.
    5. EFIM LYUBIN
      EFIM LYUBIN 22 September 2022 23: 25
      +5
      Many do not understand that Russia is controlled by a team that put Putin in the first place. And if the team decides, then Putin will be replaced. They changed him for laughter to the insignificant Medvedev! Well, if you, who live in Russia, do not understand this, and a person who has never lived in Russia and lives thousands of kilometers from Russia understands what is happening, then ... Russia will once again wash itself in its blood for victory, in order to survive! We would have died if we hadn't! I read your comments - horror! For 31 years, the ruling authorities in Russia, with the help of pro-Western media and rotten and deceitful ORT and cinema, have distorted the history of the country, the concepts of patriotism and the Motherland! This has always been strong Russian people, so it was invincible! By the way, in the USA there is practically no concept of homeland ...
      1. Living7111972
        Living7111972 23 September 2022 01: 05
        0
        Eh, buddy, it's not Russia sitting here. My colleagues, except for old pensioners and disabled people, are all already there. The cadet's son is completing his studies. There are two nephews there. My son's classmates in the cadet (mine has been in honey for 6 years of study there), graduated from the academy, almost all of them. I'm sitting alone, maybe they'll call me. And here half did not even serve.
      2. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 23 September 2022 01: 32
        +1
        Quote: EFIM LYUBIN
        Many do not understand that Russia is ruled by a team that put Putin in the first place .... if you who live in Russia do not understand this ...

        And this is well understood and much more. But "not seeing" is so convenient, isn't it? After all, for so long we have been made just consumers, not citizens. But is it just us?
        Your comments are terrible!

        These are just comments, nothing more, do not take everything at face value. Have you read the story of Alice Through the Looking Glass? So, here it is.
  6. Flooding
    Flooding 22 September 2022 19: 59
    +32
    I would like to know the names of those responsible for the exchange.
    If they acted according to conscience and honor, then they have nothing to be ashamed of.
    They would show themselves to the people and give explanations.
    There is nothing to shake the society with your silence after such decisions.
    1. laws70
      laws70 22 September 2022 20: 02
      +7
      They would show themselves to the people and give explanations.

      We are waiting for Konashenkov's report. We just can't wait.
      1. svit55
        svit55 22 September 2022 20: 17
        +9
        There was already a report, not a word about the exchange. expected.
        1. Al manah
          Al manah 22 September 2022 22: 28
          +1
          The exchange was briefly mentioned in the news on Zvezda radio (Russian Defense Ministry).
      2. Jeremiah
        Jeremiah 22 September 2022 20: 19
        +7
        Konashenkuov is nowhere near the aisles, all the shooters were transferred to Pishchulin, but today he reported through all channels what services Medvedchuk had to Russia and the LDNR, but they could not help exchanging him for all the Nazis.
    2. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 22 September 2022 20: 08
      +17
      "Don't rock the boat! Everything is going according to plan!" laughing
      Even Kadyrov himself does not know who they are, and they will certainly not tell us am
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 22 September 2022 20: 12
        +2
        Quote: Corona without virus
        Even Kadyrov himself does not know who they are, and they will certainly not tell us

        Kadyrov may know.
        But he also understands that information is a double-edged sword.
        Extra knowledge can be harmful to ordinary people.
        Without any sarcasm.
        This is so.
        1. UAZ 452
          UAZ 452 22 September 2022 20: 36
          +13
          But the information vacuum will be filled, and it turned out to be filled. They could at least lie somehow relatively smoothly.
        2. Adrey
          Adrey 22 September 2022 20: 53
          +8
          Quote: Flood
          Kadyrov may know.
          But he also understands that information is a double-edged sword.

          It looks like Ramzan, looking at all "THIS", began to play his own score.
    3. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 22 September 2022 20: 15
      +15
      Their silence is very eloquent. Can the release of Nazi criminals be justified?
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 22 September 2022 20: 16
        +11
        Quote: AKuzenka
        Their silence is very eloquent. Can the release of Nazi criminals be justified?

        That is why they are silent.
        It's hard to find an excuse.
        1. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 22 September 2022 20: 20
          +5
          Maybe this is not connected, but yesterday all shares on the stock exchange in the Russian Federation fell, and today Gazprom's shares have skyrocketed in price.
          1. Gvardeetz77
            Gvardeetz77 22 September 2022 21: 56
            +2
            Quote: AKuzenka
            Maybe this is not connected, but yesterday all shares on the stock exchange in the Russian Federation fell, and today Gazprom's shares have skyrocketed in price.

            Information on the payment of dividends (at 51 rubles per share) has practically become 100%, I’m telling you as the owner of 10 (ten!) Gazprom shares, that’s why the takeoff
        2. azkolt
          azkolt 22 September 2022 20: 33
          +14
          Quote: Flood
          Quote: AKuzenka
          Their silence is very eloquent. Can the release of Nazi criminals be justified?

          That is why they are silent.
          It's hard to find an excuse.

          They are silent for the same reason as always, they simply do not consider it necessary to explain something to the cattle!
    4. kapitan92
      kapitan92 22 September 2022 20: 16
      +22
      Quote: Flood
      I would like to know the names of those responsible for the exchange.

      hi
      Moscow. Kremlin.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 22 September 2022 20: 19
        +4
        Quote: kapitan92
        Moscow. Kremlin.

        You are simplifying a lot.
        Every act and every decision has specific surnames.
        Only targeted and substantive punishment has an educational effect.
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92 22 September 2022 20: 27
          +13
          Quote: Flood
          Only targeted and substantive punishment has an educational effect.

          Done right!
          You can name, since 2000, targeted punishments of "those in power" in Russia. laughing
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 22 September 2022 21: 22
            -1
            Quote: kapitan92
            You can name, since 2000, targeted punishments of "those in power" in Russia.

            Surnames sounded.
            And high-profile cases were opened.
            Although much less than we would like.
            But regardless of this, the principle itself is not cancelled.
            Or should we now abandon the system of punishments, since it does not work properly?
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 22 September 2022 21: 42
              +4
              Quote: Flood
              Or should we now abandon the system of punishments, since it does not work properly?

              The system of punishments that does not work properly must be reformed or replaced !!!
              And we need to start with a change in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 22 September 2022 21: 52
                +1
                Quote: kapitan92
                A penal system that does not work properly should be reformed or replaced

                Not certainly in that way.
                Replacement is possible only with the change of the state apparatus.
                Peter the Great did not replace the army.
                Namely reformed.
                True, Russian society is already turning back from this word.
          2. jdiver
            jdiver 22 September 2022 23: 41
            +4
            Yes, easily. Manturov was promoted only to Deputy Prime Minister for the failure of import substitution. Or won Nabiulina, who gave the enemies more than 300 billion dollars as a punishment, was again approved for office. And let them suffer now!
    5. Karabin
      Karabin 22 September 2022 21: 18
      +7
      I would like to know the names of those responsible for the exchange.

      And you don't know him.
      Show to the people

      Was on TV yesterday. He spoke for the defense of sovereignty.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 22 September 2022 21: 24
        -1
        Quote: Karabin
        And you don't know him

        You know?
        Curious.
        Name them.
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 22 September 2022 21: 32
          +5
          Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich. Commander-in-Chief.
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 22 September 2022 21: 41
            -3
            Quote: Karabin
            Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich. Commander-in-Chief.

            Did he agree on a list for the exchange?
            And where does such information come from?
            1. Karabin
              Karabin 22 September 2022 22: 11
              +5
              Quote: Flood
              Did he agree on a list for the exchange?

              No, damn it, he was framed. I understand the desire of batmen to quickly wash the crap trousers of the patron, but why make him look like a clown.
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 22 September 2022 22: 21
                -5
                Quote: Karabin
                No, damn it, he was framed

                Once again, spell it out.
                Do you have reliable information about the level at which the decision was made?
                I guess not.
                So you're passing your assumptions off as reality.
                But be ashamed to admit it.

                Quote: Karabin
                I understand the desire of batmen to quickly wash the crap trousers of the patron

                If you tried to offend me, then you can consider that you succeeded.
                Stop there and don't get personal anymore.
            2. Al manah
              Al manah 22 September 2022 22: 34
              +1
              From logical reasoning. There is enough information for understanding and building chains of cause-and-effect relationships.
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 22 September 2022 22: 38
                -1
                Quote: Al Manah
                From logical reasoning. There is enough information for understanding and building chains of cause-and-effect relationships.

                Enough for a logical guess?
                Yes, no doubt about it.
                For approval?
                Definitely not.
                1. Beringovsky
                  Beringovsky 23 September 2022 02: 37
                  +1
                  Quote: Flood

                  Enough for a logical guess?
                  Yes, no doubt about it.
                  For approval?
                  Definitely not.

                  Well, let's try the method of denial.
                  Who in Russia, apart from Putin, needs godfather of Putin?
                  The answer is no one.
                  1. Flooding
                    Flooding 23 September 2022 08: 14
                    -1
                    Quote: Beringovsky
                    Who in Russia, apart from Putin, needs Putin's godfather

                    Double false statement.
                    1.
                    What makes you think that Putin needs Medvedchuk?
                    Because kum? Silly.
                    2.
                    Medvedchuk may well have business interests in Russia. Too lazy to search on the Internet.
                    But you write that Medvedchuk is not needed in Russia by ANYONE except Putin.
                    1. aglet
                      aglet 23 September 2022 09: 49
                      +1
                      "But you write that Medvedchuk is not needed in Russia by ANYONE except Putin."
                      do you need a bear? me - no
                      "Medvedchuk may well have business interests in Russia. Too lazy to look on the Internet."
                      and for this it needs to be changed instead of our soldiers?
                      1. Flooding
                        Flooding 23 September 2022 10: 36
                        -2
                        Quote: aglet
                        do you need a bear? me - no

                        We can only be responsible for ourselves.
                        But not for everyone.

                        Quote: aglet
                        for this it needs to be changed instead of our soldiers?

                        On the contrary.
                        I agree with the opinion that this may be a provocation by the Ukrainian side.
                      2. aglet
                        aglet 23 September 2022 10: 44
                        0
                        "We can only answer for ourselves"
                        So answer for yourself - do you need a Medvedchuk?
                      3. Flooding
                        Flooding 23 September 2022 10: 49
                        -1
                        Quote: aglet
                        "We can only answer for ourselves"
                        So answer for yourself - do you need a Medvedchuk?

                        Why ask rhetorical questions?
                        In diplomatic language.
                        I clearly wrote above

                        Quote: Flood
                        Medvedchuk may well have business interests in Russia. Too lazy to search on the Internet.
                        But you write that NOBODY needs Medvedchuk in Russia except Putin


                        What other questions may be?
                        Looking for the truth? So be true.
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    6. Garik Gorkin
      Garik Gorkin 24 September 2022 00: 31
      +1
      From the cart of Deputy Fedorov:

      Roman Abramovich played a key role in the release of British mercenaries

      “He is highly respected by the Ukrainians, and now by us. He did a hell of a lot for us and we couldn't thank him enough,” said Brit POW John Harding, who was exchanged.

      The oligarch personally accompanied the mercenaries on a plane from Russia to Saudi Arabia, and also presented them with an iPhone.

      I recommend the article "Why RUSSIA is a COLONY".
      https://solovyeva.livejournal.com/331687.html
    7. Dalmatia
      Dalmatia 24 September 2022 07: 03
      +2
      Quote: Flood
      I would like to know the names of those responsible for the exchange.
      If they acted according to conscience and honor, then they have nothing to be ashamed of.
      They would show themselves to the people and give explanations.
      There is nothing to shake the society with your silence after such decisions.


      One of the conditions for the surrender of the Azov people was the subsequent procedure for sending them to a third country (Turkey). And only after the Azovites surrendered, we were able to completely liberate Mariupol, and most importantly, lift the blockade of Azovstal and free up our forces and means and transfer them to other areas.
      At that time, it was the right decision, since the Azovstal could sit on Azovstal until today.
      As for the question that the Azov people should have been brought to justice.
      Here, too, not everything is so simple, if not difficult.
      Russia has a moratorium on the death penalty. And this means that we must feed and support the Azov people in the IK until the end of their lives. There are other difficulties as well.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 24 September 2022 08: 27
        0
        Quote: Dalmatia
        One of the conditions for the surrender of the Azov people was the subsequent procedure for sending them to a third country (Turkey).

        It is quite possible and logical.
        Haven't read about it yet.
        This would explain part of the exchange that took place.
        But this does not explain the fuss around the tribunal, the introduction of amendments to the legislation of the DPR related to the death penalty (it turns out that the Donetsk people were not aware of such an agreement), and the transfer of foreign mercenaries sentenced to capital punishment.
        There are too many questions.
        1. Dalmatia
          Dalmatia 24 September 2022 21: 14
          +1
          In a few days, the DPR and LPR will become subjects of the Russian Federation, and then legal proceedings (investigation of a criminal case, consideration of it in court, sentencing and execution of the sentence) against the Nazis are subject to the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation and this would drag on for two years. It would be a huge burden on our investigators, prosecutors, judges, lawyers and this whole banquet on our budget.
          At the same time, Russia would be subjected to unnecessary pressure from "human rights" organizations.
          My opinion is that it was decided to "fuse" the most public Natsiks before the start of referendums in the republics.
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        3. Dalmatia
          Dalmatia 24 September 2022 21: 22
          0
          Quote: Flood
          Quote: Dalmatia
          One of the conditions for the surrender of the Azov people was the subsequent procedure for sending them to a third country (Turkey).

          It is quite possible and logical.
          Haven't read about it yet.
          This would explain part of the exchange that took place.
          But this does not explain the fuss around the tribunal, the introduction of amendments to the legislation of the DPR related to the death penalty (it turns out that the Donetsk people were not aware of such an agreement), and the transfer of foreign mercenaries sentenced to capital punishment.
          There are too many questions.


          ___________

          _______
          There is an explanation for this, but I cannot comment on the verdict due to corporate ethics. Sorry
  7. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 22 September 2022 20: 00
    +24
    I understand that at the top in the Ministry of Defense and the FSB it is much more visible, but I believe that criminals recognized as terrorists cannot be exchanged for servicemen.
    Ramzan Akhmatovich, I think many agree with you.
    do not take the Nazis prisoner.
    support such a decision.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 22 September 2022 20: 06
      +1
      Quote: Trapp1st
      Ramzan Kadyrovich

      Ramzan Akhmatovich
  8. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 22 September 2022 20: 00
    +22
    Ramzan is right. If there is a huge probability that they will give it back anyway, then there is no point in capturing. Judgment on the spot. Call.
    1. Jeremiah
      Jeremiah 22 September 2022 20: 17
      +2
      then there is no point in capturing.

      Who will let him? And for whom, then, to exchange godfathers?
      1. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 23 September 2022 02: 40
        +1
        Quote: Jeremiah

        Who will let him? And for whom, then, to exchange godfathers?

        Putin had only one godfather there. We were lucky....
        1. Jeremiah
          Jeremiah 23 September 2022 08: 30
          +1
          Someone and the rest of the elite may have a matchmaker or brother or business interests there. Captured fascists are a double, triple bonus: you can show that they are fascists, you can show with what heroic efforts we captured them, and then you can quietly exchange them for something you need.
        2. AdAstra
          AdAstra 23 September 2022 11: 04
          -1
          Who knows, who knows... Is the text longer?
  9. Magog_
    Magog_ 22 September 2022 20: 02
    +19
    Gazprom drives gas through Ukraine, which does not smell like money...
    1. aglet
      aglet 23 September 2022 09: 52
      +1
      "Gazprom is driving gas through Ukraine, which does not smell like money..."
      as well as the money that Gazprom pays Ukraine for transit, and for which they kill our
  10. Mikhail Sidorov
    Mikhail Sidorov 22 September 2022 20: 03
    +26
    Ramzan Kadyrov spoke very frankly about this exchange, saying that the situation was incomprehensible to him.

    What kind of nerves do you need to have in order to understand the actions of our authorities.
    1. laws70
      laws70 22 September 2022 20: 08
      +10
      Ramzan is good with both nerves and experience. That's why I'm careful..
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    2. Jeremiah
      Jeremiah 22 September 2022 20: 15
      -4
      Everything will be explained to him tomorrow. First time or something.
    3. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 22 September 2022 20: 38
      +7
      And do they really understand these actions? And even more so - do they understand their consequences, the impact on the morale of the people? Now the state of mind roughly corresponds to the situation of the Russian Empire in the autumn of 1916. What's next?
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 23 September 2022 07: 51
        0
        come on, no one cares, people are busy surviving, yesterday one interlocutor didn’t know at all that they retreated from Kharkov
      2. Revival
        Revival 23 September 2022 22: 17
        0
        And how many times have you seen concern for the morale/attitude of the people?
        Yes, and the people give all the reasons
        1. UAZ 452
          UAZ 452 23 September 2022 22: 30
          0
          Well, the government was unlucky with the people - it is not the same system. Any suggestions to fix this situation? For example - to mobilize, put in old tanks and cardboard infantry fighting vehicles, and into battle?
    4. goscha
      goscha 22 September 2022 22: 51
      +5
      To understand the decisions of our authorities-neither nerves are not enough, nor the mind. I've been stunned for a long time looking at this zoo
  11. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 22 September 2022 20: 05
    +20
    The first call for a government that is constantly lying or hushing up the problem is the loss of citizens' trust. The main, neutral political part. The second call is much worse and louder - this is a loss of confidence of the private and junior officers participating in the database. And the most terrible bell is the loss of faith in power among the people most devoted to it, endowed with power.
  12. Third district
    Third district 22 September 2022 20: 05
    +11
    It also became known that Ukrainian politician Viktor Medvedchuk was handed over to Russia, and before that, without any exchange (“with the assistance of the Saudi crown prince”), 10 foreign mercenaries were released, including those who were sentenced to death by the court of the DPR.

    There are no literary words to comment on such news.
  13. GREG68
    GREG68 22 September 2022 20: 08
    +27
    Yes ... Strange NWO, strange decisions. And that's putting it mildly. The people are opening their eyes to many things.
    1. Jeremiah
      Jeremiah 22 September 2022 20: 13
      +11
      The people are opening their eyes to many things.

      Whoever has eyes, they have been open for a long time, and the rest, at least piss in them, is all God's dew.
    2. MaKeNa
      MaKeNa 22 September 2022 20: 44
      +12
      People are just GOING TOGETHER!!!!!! There is no need for the efforts of any Khokhlyat centers of action of our authorities hundreds of times more destructive! Where the famous "We'll Soak in the Outhouse" attitude seems to have blown away.
      1. aglet
        aglet 23 September 2022 09: 58
        +1
        "the famous 'we'll soak it in the toilet' mentality seems to have deflated"
        yeah, he didn't really pout. can you give an example of action? this urge smoothly flowed into concern, where it remains to this day
  14. Akuzenka
    Akuzenka 22 September 2022 20: 09
    +12
    Oh, okay. The traitors freed the Nazi criminals! They do not consider themselves as such, they just made money on our blood, once again. And then these same traitors will surrender without a fight to the Russian Federation. Just business, for them and all "civilized mankind". I wouldn't be surprised if this happens in a year. Here they will have a holiday. Only we will not see him, we will be de-occupied.
  15. Jeremiah
    Jeremiah 22 September 2022 20: 12
    0
    Tomorrow he will give back again, as with Kharkov. Like someone was consulted and he just forgot something.
  16. Alexander Razin
    Alexander Razin 22 September 2022 20: 12
    +19
    Kadyrov is the only one who told the truth. All the rest of the friendly approvingly did.
    I wonder if he will also be called a hypocrite?
    1. Pontius Pilate
      Pontius Pilate 22 September 2022 22: 04
      -1
      They won't call. Be that as it may, and what I fear, he has a lot of bayonets loyal to him. Armed in the best way. Pay attention to how Chechnya is financed and armed. If they turn those bayonets on us, it will be bad. They even report to him in commercials and swear allegiance to Don. Not a word about the feeder. It's like he doesn't exist.
  17. Heisenberg
    Heisenberg 22 September 2022 20: 12
    +30
    It is even more difficult to understand the fact that the Chemist went free. The one who insulted the Kadyrov family. My humble opinion: the government is digging its own grave.
    1. Sagetaus
      Sagetaus 22 September 2022 20: 34
      +15
      Quote: Heisenberg
      My humble opinion: the government is digging its own grave.

      All right. Now they are already openly talking about a new quality of our elites, which crowns the three previous ones (corruption, incompetence, Westernism) - dementia.
  18. sanja.grw
    sanja.grw 22 September 2022 20: 13
    +3
    Quote from: laws70
    They would show themselves to the people and give explanations.

    We are waiting for Konashenkov's report. We just can't wait.

    They wrote that the Russian Ministry of Defense was removed from the exchange of prisoners of war and either the FSB or the SVR is engaged in this, in short, intelligence
    1. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 22 September 2022 20: 42
      +14
      These are the ones who "reconnoitred" in February that the Ukrainians will massively throw flowers under the tanks to us? Then all...
  19. 15210
    15210 22 September 2022 20: 14
    +22
    I remember saying that every Nazi criminal will be punished and foreign mercenaries will be sentenced or executed. And, of course, Medvedchuk is of particular value to Russia. Once again demonstrated the value of statements. Ours need to be changed, but not for the Nazis, there are plenty of other prisoners. Correctly Ramzan says - do not take the Nazis prisoner. They are paid for with blood and they are released.
    1. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 22 September 2022 20: 47
      +7
      The decision on this exchange format was made at the very top. Well, they won’t capture the National Battalion, okay... But maybe you should think about what other decisions are made at the same level? I can hardly imagine that a certain official made one single, clearly treacherous decision, and in everything else - a patriot-statesman, day and night forging our victory. There is no such thing - if the enemy, then he is the enemy.
  20. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 22 September 2022 20: 16
    -4
    "those who previously offended the honor of the Chechen people"
    I may have missed something, but what kind of cases are we talking about?
  21. Eva Star
    Eva Star 22 September 2022 20: 19
    +29
    During his time, Kadyrov showed himself to be the patriot of Russia more than anyone else. The rest pour out a lot of words but are silent against the decision of the authorities. Here Lavrov at the UN genocomplete said that the Nazis who kill civilians in Donbass will be punished, but did not specify that the punishment is treatment, food and a ticket to the resort. And this applies to the entire government, promises are not fulfilled absolutely in their own way. All my friends said that today the government committed a betrayal. Our soldiers could be exchanged for 1 to 10 but conventional APU. To change the Nazis who need to hang on the oligarch Medevedchuk is a gesture. To change for those who slaughtered the inhabitants of Donbass is a betrayal of the interests of Russia, it looks especially creepy against the background of the mobilization of the population. The authorities once again give reason to doubt their loyalty to Russia. Putin is not following in the footsteps of Stalin, who did not spare his son, but Nicholas II. If Russia does not start to fight for real, destroying electricity, gas, communications, then the betrayal will become obvious. Many will say that such thoughts harm Russia, but it is the authorities who, by their actions, give reason to doubt. Today is the ugliest day in history.
    1. azkolt
      azkolt 22 September 2022 20: 38
      +7
      Everything will begin to clear up a little if you know (such information flashed in the cart) that some banks in England were partially lifted sanctions from their accounts. Those. in fact, they were exchanged for Medvedchuk and someone else's money.
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 22 September 2022 20: 47
      +3
      Quote from Eva Star
      The authorities once again give reason to doubt their loyalty to Russia.

      Doubtfulness is already all smozolitsya.

      I would now like to hear the parties' comments on this "exchange".
      1. jdiver
        jdiver 22 September 2022 23: 50
        +2
        I would now like to hear the parties' comments on this "exchange".

        we'll hear soon
    3. goscha
      goscha 22 September 2022 23: 03
      +6
      I have already stopped counting these vile days, here is the shaking Medinsky, and the destruction of "Moscow", the abandonment of Bucha and other gestures of "goodwill" Yes, I also forgot about the rubber red lines and strikes on the notorious decision-making centers. And there is no end to this shame!
  22. Fred Dozer
    Fred Dozer 22 September 2022 20: 21
    +1
    Medvedchuk is The Godfather to a, President Putin's Family Member
  23. BAI
    BAI 22 September 2022 20: 23
    +12
    Kadyrov is right. Mercenaries and Nazis must be shot on the spot. Moreover, it passed. We shot everyone from the regiment where Kosmodemyanskaya was hanged, the Americans shot everyone from the SS unit, which executed their scouts.
  24. Third district
    Third district 22 September 2022 20: 23
    +13
    Something is not visible in the comments of the guardians - explainers. Probably have not yet received a manual on how to justify such a decision of the authorities. It's like, after the "regrouping" near Kharkov, local trolls began to write that we don't really need these cities and the people there are so-so.
    1. AdAstra
      AdAstra 23 September 2022 11: 07
      -1
      But what about "comrade" Navodlom?
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  25. Drleavesee
    Drleavesee 22 September 2022 20: 23
    +6
    Do you seriously think that someone will explain something?
  26. gafovec
    gafovec 22 September 2022 20: 24
    +8
    I wonder how Solovyov and company will comment on this disgrace? "Everything is OK, going according to plan" or ... "it's a shame"? Although ... then he will remain without work.
    1. samarin1969
      samarin1969 22 September 2022 20: 41
      +4
      Quote from gafovec
      I wonder how Solovyov and company will comment on this disgrace? "Everything is OK, going according to plan" or ... "it's a shame"? Although ... then he will remain without work.


      Nikonov threw in that Medvedchuk saved 1000 of our people. This is it about the EXCHANGE of prisoners of war. Rave...
      It is clear that any prisoners are paid for with the blood of their captors. I understand if Medvedchuk bought them out. No one remembered Ruban and the others.
  27. azkolt
    azkolt 22 September 2022 20: 25
    +10
    It's time to put Ramzan Akhmatovich at the helm of everything, until these impotent men squandered everything that was taken with blood!
  28. Radikal
    Radikal 22 September 2022 20: 27
    +19
    Quote: Flood
    I would like to know the names of the persons responsible for the exchange ...
    Yes, for God's sake - V.V. Putin. lol
  29. ivan2022
    ivan2022 22 September 2022 20: 28
    -5
    Quote: azkolt
    It's time to put Ramzan Akhmatovich at the helm of everything, until these impotent men squandered everything that was taken with blood!

    It's time to declare the Chechens a state-forming people until Russia is destroyed as the USSR.
    1. Andrey Moskvin
      Andrey Moskvin 22 September 2022 20: 46
      +5
      Do not write nonsense. Everything is tied to Ramzan.
  30. azkolt
    azkolt 22 September 2022 20: 29
    +12
    Quote: Greg Miller
    Medvedchuk... It was a colossal mistake of ours... It was impossible to accept him even for free... It will be very difficult to explain to our people that he was not the main target of the exchange. Moreover, how ours behaved in the information field, announcing the release of our servicemen from captivity and cowardly keeping silent about Medvedchuk.

    And what is there to explain, if even a fool understands that the whole exchange is due to him, the rest are just a makeweight. Otherwise, what's the point of changing 87 to 215? Even if to hell with them Azov, why not one on one?
  31. svit55
    svit55 22 September 2022 20: 29
    +28
    All the activities of all sorts of "investigative agencies" become ridiculous. Zilch. What is the point of starting criminal cases against executioners, murderers, rapists, if they are released? Now they will become national heroes in their "nenka", and the first words that they will say to the same kam: - cut the lads, burn them, nothing will happen to you, they will let the parrot go. No words for anger...
  32. Mraka
    Mraka 22 September 2022 20: 32
    +4
    But it is an incentive for mobilization.
    Ppppppppppp
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 22 September 2022 20: 35
      0
      Quote from Mraka
      But it is an incentive for mobilization.
      Ppppppppppp

      Ishe what and it doesn’t reach something! well, either everyone is doing it with a specialist to cheat everything and everything!
  33. Million
    Million 22 September 2022 20: 33
    +13
    The Supreme Mows more and more.
    Age?
    1. Mraka
      Mraka 22 September 2022 20: 40
      -6
      And here is the question.
      And the Supreme, how all this was filed.
      And most importantly, who?
    2. Luenkov
      Luenkov 22 September 2022 21: 35
      +5
      At the suggestion of Medvedchuk, Kyiv was first taken .... And ... plan "A" ...
  34. MaKeNa
    MaKeNa 22 September 2022 20: 35
    +15
    Another proof, nothing in the NWO will change! We won't start fighting! The guarantor is not ready, and alas, he has not decided how to continue the war. Both ours and yours. Now he looks more like Nicholas II than Stalin.
    And one more thing for sure, traitors are responsible for our information direction !!!! So to substitute power, causing the people to be dumbfounded and indignant, this must be done very hard !!! But how hard they try, you bastards!!! Well, doesn't he see it? So satisfied!!!!
    1. Chronos
      Chronos 22 September 2022 20: 59
      +3
      Quote: MaKeNa
      Another proof, nothing in the NWO will change! We won't start fighting! The guarantor is not ready, and alas, he has not decided how to continue the war. Both ours and yours. Now he looks more like Nicholas II than Stalin.
      And one more thing for sure, traitors are responsible for our information direction !!!! So to substitute power, causing the people to be dumbfounded and indignant, this must be done very hard !!! But how hard they try, you bastards!!! Well, doesn't he see it? So satisfied!!!!

      Nicholas II did a lot wrong, but he cannot be reproached for one thing - he made all decisions in the interests of Russia, as he understood them, of course. All rumors about German spies in the palace are nonsense. And Nikolai did not allow himself such muddy quirks.
      This is all bad, the morale of the troops and the morale of society may fall. Only now the external enemy is real and has not gone away. Everything passes, and the power will change sooner or later. But the country will remain.
      1. Luenkov
        Luenkov 22 September 2022 21: 32
        0
        One "muddy quirk" of Nikolai 2.0 is that he did not give Freza money for cars that were better than Bens ... He got out, so to speak ... At the same time, Kolka was versed in technology ... they say. Read the diaries of this emperor.
      2. jdiver
        jdiver 22 September 2022 23: 58
        0
        he made all decisions in the interests of Russia,

        if it were so, the Russian Empire would still exist. But in fact, his decisions led to a completely different fate for the country. So it was not in her interests that he made decisions. Everything here is simple. And what qualities he lacked to make the right decisions can be discussed for a long time. However, the USSR that appeared as a result is so far the best thing that has happened to my country for the entire time of its existence. But Nikolai 2 was already completely useless here.
  35. Yulian
    Yulian 22 September 2022 20: 37
    -8
    What audacity? Have you forgotten Ramzan Kadyrov who the Nazi Taira was exchanged for? On your compatriot, and now again you want to ride a fair wave of indignation from the liberation of the Azov people?
    1. Mraka
      Mraka 22 September 2022 20: 42
      -3
      Maybe about tyra.
      I honestly do not know what and why she was exchanged.
      1. Yulian
        Yulian 22 September 2022 20: 48
        -2
        Exchanged for a captured Chechen. Shari wrote about it. Khodakovsky also wanted to exchange his prisoner, but it did not work out. Obviously, the Chechens are the state-forming people who have special privileges.
      2. Yulian
        Yulian 22 September 2022 20: 58
        +2
        "The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, threatened with criminal liability to journalists who spread "inaccurate" information about the conditions for the exchange of Ukrainian military medic Yulia Paevskaya (Taira). So the Chechen leader commented on information published in the media and social networks that Taira was allegedly exchanged for Adam Gritsenko, the son Deputy Chairman of Kadyrov in the Crimea and Sevastopol Murad Saidov.
  36. 1984
    1984 22 September 2022 20: 37
    +6
    Why were the foreigners released? Are they terrible criminals and fanatics whom the world has never seen, so in any case the court ruled, or do we have a corrupt court that exceeded its official powers and imposed a sentence incomparable with the act? and they are ordinary prisoners of war whom it is not a pity to let go? then either the judge and the prosecutor to the bunk, or those who released the murderers and terrorists, as we called them in the media ....
  37. Ludmila Myshkina
    Ludmila Myshkina 22 September 2022 20: 41
    +5
    Ramzan Akhmatovich, oh, how right. it should have been done from the very beginning. and the Azov people generally needed to be buried at AZOVSTAL. and then 4 months cherished them. wiped the noses of the buttocks. how many fattened hari. and how many Mariupol residents died in others. cities and villages under shelling without water and hunger
  38. Wladimir134
    Wladimir134 22 September 2022 20: 42
    -12
    You understand. Well, they will shoot these chances and what. And so at least the boys were pulled out. Who needs them dead. For the first time I agreed with the decision ...
    1. Magog_
      Magog_ 22 September 2022 20: 55
      0
      at least the boys were pulled out
      We can only agree with one thing: do not take the Nazis prisoner. And to change the "boys" for any number of those who are lucky to be in our captivity in the future.
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 22 September 2022 21: 27
      +3
      Quote: Wladimir134
      Well, they will shoot these chances and what. And so at least the boys were pulled out.

      A hundred ideological Natsiks were returned to service. With combat experience. Inspired to "feats" even more. How much is it in the lives of our soldiers?
    3. Rustic
      Rustic 22 September 2022 22: 58
      +1
      And so at least the boys were pulled out
      Did they really pull it out? Whom where? It’s kind of silent about this, only the total number. Maybe no one except Medvedchuk was pulled out? But they simply lied once again, since no one has seen these pulled out and does not know anything about them. Like such pullers
      not to be trusted at all. And besides their words, there is nothing. Once again, they hung noodles on their ears, and many fell for it and rushed to defend the traitors and enemies of the common people.
  39. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 22 September 2022 20: 42
    +15
    It seems that "godfather Medvedchuk" is the most important thing for Putin. Even Ramzan was "thrown" - and this is an indicator! Yes, they received such a "Tsushima" in the information war! Such a blow to the idea of ​​the "Russian world" was not expected from Putin ... But Ramzan shows himselfоmore patriot-statesman than the President! Respect! Another bu to launch it to the General Staff - maybe then these generals' sons will start to move?
  40. Iris
    Iris 22 September 2022 20: 49
    +7
    It is not clear why they fought so hard for every house in Marik. To like this then? Those who fought there and survived will definitely behave differently now. No prisoners. Yourself is more expensive.
  41. EvilCommunist
    EvilCommunist 22 September 2022 20: 49
    +4
    The more I listen to Ramzan, the more I feel that I will vote for him in the presidential elections
  42. Iris
    Iris 22 September 2022 20: 50
    +1
    Quote from Mraka
    And here is the question.
    And the Supreme, how all this was filed.
    And most importantly, who?

    You confuse cause and effect.
  43. Marson35
    Marson35 22 September 2022 20: 50
    +10
    Yes ... In my opinion, our leadership is losing the last remnants of trust, devoted to him by part of the people.
  44. rocket757
    rocket757 22 September 2022 20: 51
    +10
    And the elections / by-elections have already passed, and those that are from the party in power, again and again, are by-elected ... that's the whole story.
    A simple question...whose power do we have???
    Nothing else to write will work, because PI PI .........!
    They don’t change horses at the crossing ... that's just where are we crossing ??? Maybe we don't need to go there?
    1. jdiver
      jdiver 23 September 2022 00: 01
      +2
      Horses are not changed at the crossing.

      So then horses ... And they say donkeys even need
    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 23 September 2022 04: 49
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      They don’t change horses at the crossing ... that's just where are we crossing ??? Maybe we don't need to go there?

      And who said that we planned to cross? We trample on the shore in the hope that the river will dry up on its own.
  45. senima56
    senima56 22 September 2022 20: 56
    +3
    "And therefore it is not surprising that the soldiers who liberated Mariupol and are now at the forefront are making their conclusion - do not take the Nazis prisoner." "Work, brothers!"
  46. g.tit2015
    g.tit2015 22 September 2022 20: 57
    +4
    There are no censored words. Only mats on this exchange of Medvedchuk.
  47. Boris Sergeev
    Boris Sergeev 22 September 2022 20: 57
    +4
    Just in April, Peskov declared that there could be no exchange of Medvedchuk for Ukrainian prisoners, since Medvedchuk had nothing to do with Russia.
  48. Sagetaus
    Sagetaus 22 September 2022 20: 59
    +17
    Observing all recent events, the question arises: is our government capable of making at least something so as not to ... turn around? Political dementia on the face, IMHO.
  49. certero
    certero 22 September 2022 20: 59
    +13
    Quote: Greg Miller
    It will be very difficult to explain to our people that it was not he who was the main target of the exchange.

    Forgive me for naturalism, but at the top everyone doesn't give a shit about the opinion of the people. Here it is straight to shit and all.
    if necessary, on TV Solovyov and others will tell you why it was necessary and that this is the most correct decision.
    Our comments here or our opinion does not matter to anyone.
    Today I made a final conclusion about the special operation for myself. But I'm even afraid to think what those fighters who fought in Mariupol feel.
    1. Chronos
      Chronos 22 September 2022 21: 57
      +4
      Quote: certero
      Quote: Greg Miller
      It will be very difficult to explain to our people that it was not he who was the main target of the exchange.

      Forgive me for naturalism, but at the top everyone doesn't give a shit about the opinion of the people. Here it is straight to shit and all.
      if necessary, on TV Solovyov and others will tell you why it was necessary and that this is the most correct decision.
      Our comments here or our opinion does not matter to anyone.
      Today I made a final conclusion about the special operation for myself. But I'm even afraid to think what those fighters who fought in Mariupol feel.

      So not only ordinary fighters have different thoughts. I think that many generals in different departments have stars on shoulder straps in shock. Near Mariupol, the zamkomflot died, by the way.
  50. Arkady007
    Arkady007 22 September 2022 20: 59
    +5
    That's why I respect Kadyrov.
    And the nonsense of our media simply does not stand up to criticism.
    Most interesting is how this "Military Review" can provide different information throughout the day. Someone checks the info or how is it?