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Military correspondents report the enemy has entered the village of Drobyshevo near Krasny Liman

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Military correspondents report the enemy has entered the village of Drobyshevo near Krasny Liman

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Information comes from the north of the Donetsk People's Republic that individual enemy detachments were able to enter the settlement of Drobyshevo. This is an urban-type settlement, which is located on the left bank of the Seversky Donets, northwest of Krasny Liman.
The entry of the enemy into the village of Drobyshevo is reported by Russian military correspondents from the scene.

If this information is confirmed officially, then there is an additional danger for our garrison in the aforementioned Krasny Liman, where it has been holding the line for the last weeks. In addition, the entry of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into Drobyshevo may indicate the expansion of the enemy's foothold on the left bank of the Seversky Donets. In this regard, there is a danger not only for Krasny Liman, but also for the previously liberated territories of the LPR - in particular, for the city of Kremennaya, which is about 40 km from Drobyshevo.



According to WarGonzo military correspondents, about half of the territory of Drobyshevo is under the control of Ukrainian troops. It is quite understandable that without a decisive counterattack in this and other directions, the enemy will continue his advance in those territories that he had previously lost. According to military correspondents, there are clearly not enough forces to deter enemy attacks in the Krasny Liman area.
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  1. Sergio_7
    Sergio_7 21 September 2022 20: 30
    -3
    Information comes from the north of the Donetsk People's Republic that individual enemy detachments were able to enter the settlement of Drobyshevo. This is an urban-type settlement, which is located on the left bank of the Seversky Donets, northwest of Krasny Liman.
    The entry of the enemy into the village of Drobyshevo is reported by Russian military correspondents from the scene.

    We urgently need musicians to help! Well, the enhanced work of art.
    1. invisible_man
      invisible_man 21 September 2022 20: 53
      +45
      Knowledgeable people said back in March that mobilization was needed. “No,” they answered, “trust Rudolfich and military expert Sivkov. We lure. We grind.
      1. Vic Vic
        Vic Vic 21 September 2022 21: 09
        -7
        Decipher - "TsIPSOshniki", I don't know
        1. Edas
          Edas 21 September 2022 21: 34
          +7
          The search engine will help you. Ukrainian Troll Russophobic Center
          1. Vic Vic
            Vic Vic 21 September 2022 21: 40
            +2
            Thank you, I totally understand. I won't watch so as not to get poisoned
        2. invisible_man
          invisible_man 21 September 2022 21: 55
          +4
          Decipher - "TsIPSOshniki", I don't know

          "Center for Information and Psychological Operations".
          1. Zheka-Filimonov
            Zheka-Filimonov 22 September 2022 00: 12
            -2
            I wonder if we have something similar or our calculation for talking heads on TV
            1. invisible_man
              invisible_man 22 September 2022 00: 28
              +16
              I’m not very sure that this CIPSO influenced the psyche of our layman more than the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kharkov.
              1. Sergey Kuzmin
                Sergey Kuzmin 22 September 2022 10: 40
                +1
                Exactly!
                I’m not very sure that this CIPSO influenced the psyche of our layman more than the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kharkov.
                After this Kharkiv offensive of the Ukronazis, THE QUESTION IS POINTED: Well, where is the Russian "technical superiority" advertised by the "hat-throwers" in artillery, aviation and other things?! Why are they not using, for example, TU-95 strategic bombers, which, without even flying into the territory controlled by the Ukronazis, could carry out live rocket firing at concentrations of enemy forces?! What would significantly help the Russian and allied troops stationed in this area
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      2. Pytnik
        Pytnik 21 September 2022 21: 10
        +17
        All of you who are against ciscos, did you watch telegram channels today? Have you seen the lines at the Finnish border? and tickets to Turkey were sold out in the morning in Moscow .... I’m not going to run and hide, but there’s not much patriotism either, (many familiar friends called today, there are already “lucky ones”
        1. Earthwalker
          Earthwalker 21 September 2022 21: 18
          +9
          about those who decided to run away right now, you can simply say: “A woman with a cart is easier for a mare”
          1. ARIONkrsk
            ARIONkrsk 22 September 2022 06: 11
            +6
            Quote: Earth Walker
            about those who decided to run away right now, you can simply say: “A woman with a cart is easier for a mare”

            Well, for sure, why do the country and us need them if, in which case, they fled and then come running after everything, everyone who was identified on the agenda and crossed, fled abroad or a criminal offense or a ban on re-entry.
            1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
              GELEZNII_KAPUT 22 September 2022 09: 31
              0
              Quote from ARIONkrsk
              Well, for sure, why do the country and us need them if, in which case, they fled and then come running after everything, everyone who was identified on the agenda and crossed, fled abroad or a criminal offense or a ban on re-entry.

              Yes, it will come back to haunt them when they return, I would not continue friendship, service, etc. with such people, and they will feel it in their own skin.
              1. ARIONkrsk
                ARIONkrsk 22 September 2022 09: 48
                +2
                Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
                Quote from ARIONkrsk
                Well, for sure, why do the country and us need them if, in which case, they fled and then come running after everything, everyone who was identified on the agenda and crossed, fled abroad or a criminal offense or a ban on re-entry.

                Yes, it will come back to haunt them when they return, I would not continue friendship, service, etc. with such people, and they will feel it in their own skin.

                In order for them to feel the consequences, they must have a criminal record, otherwise they will get purple and will calmly go to work and enjoy state benefits.
        2. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 21 September 2022 21: 41
          +7
          queues at the Finnish border seen
          And the Finns miss? Or are the people of "poor refugees" trying to include?
          1. Chronos
            Chronos 21 September 2022 21: 49
            +23
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            queues at the Finnish border seen
            And the Finns miss? Or are the people of "poor refugees" trying to include?

            There are no queues. Yandex traffic jams to help. And there was a denial from the Finnish customs.
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 21 September 2022 21: 51
              +5
              .there was a rebuttal about the Finnish customs.
              The British media write about thousands of demonstrations "against the regime." No photo.
              1. Boris Cherkashin_2
                Boris Cherkashin_2 22 September 2022 01: 14
                +1
                They themselves have demonstrations in England.
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter 22 September 2022 01: 20
                  +2
                  They themselves have demonstrations in England.
                  Where are the demonstrations and for what reason? Blacks at Scotland Yard?
              2. ARIONkrsk
                ARIONkrsk 22 September 2022 06: 12
                +2
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                .there was a rebuttal about the Finnish customs.
                The British media write about thousands of demonstrations "against the regime." No photo.

                The buildup will now be fierce, you can catch at the rallies to the front.
              3. 262019
                262019 22 September 2022 12: 24
                0
                Here at rallies, agendas should be handed out so that they do not run after each separately.
                ,
              4. saigon
                saigon 22 September 2022 13: 34
                +1
                There are a bunch of videos about demonstrations and everything is classic there - there are few of them and they are terribly far from the people, in a word, there are more press than Lupidorians. In Sverdlovsk, well, in Yekaterinburg, a couple of dozen at most.
            2. Pytnik
              Pytnik 21 September 2022 21: 58
              -9
              And of course the video is fake....? sorry I don’t know how to throw off the cart
              1. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 21 September 2022 22: 17
                +6
                The video is not multi-thousandth. The usual libertus.
                1. ARIONkrsk
                  ARIONkrsk 22 September 2022 06: 13
                  +3
                  Quote: Bolt Cutter
                  The video is not multi-thousandth. The usual libertus.

                  First of all, they need to go to the front, let them pick up their minds.
              2. Chronos
                Chronos 21 September 2022 22: 36
                +4
                Quote: Pytnik
                And of course the video is fake....? sorry I don’t know how to throw off the cart

                From the border? Then a counter question, have you yourself been to Torfyanovka or Svetogorsk at least once? There are always queues from time to time. Momentary plugging is easy to happen if someone stays away for a long time. And now the design, in principle, is longer. The key question is how many cars have become more.
                1. solar
                  solar 22 September 2022 10: 57
                  0
                  now traffic jams start at least from a distance of 12 km from the border, judging by google.
              3. Chronos
                Chronos 21 September 2022 22: 58
                +3
                Quote: Pytnik
                And of course the video is fake....? sorry I don’t know how to throw off the cart

                Yes, and the video from the border is still fake - cutting past queues.
              4. saigon
                saigon 22 September 2022 13: 54
                +1
                No, I looked at the liberal website 911 with might and main, there is a howling screeching and moaning.
        3. gromit
          gromit 21 September 2022 22: 03
          +42
          And I'll cheer you up. Remember the British mercenaries who were sentenced to death in the DNR? Today, Mrs. Truss sincerely thanked Mr. Volodymyr and Saudi Arabia for their help in their return. Citizens of the United States, Sweden, Croatia and Morocco have also been released.

          And what a surprise, I don’t see this wonderful news on VO.
          1. sheet
            sheet 21 September 2022 22: 36
            -19
            Quote from Gromit
            British mercenaries who were sentenced to death in the DPR? Today, Mrs. Truss sincerely thanked Mr. Volodymyr and Saudi Arabia for their help in their return.

            From what trough this news?
            1. Alexander Antonov_2
              Alexander Antonov_2 21 September 2022 22: 41
              +9
              Rozhin had information in the cart, Operation Tyra No. 2:
              1. Earthwalker
                Earthwalker 21 September 2022 23: 01
                +11
                Yes, it's not all there. It turns out that these were also changed. There are no words ...

            2. 1939_1940
              1939_1940 21 September 2022 22: 45
              +20
              RBC, NTV, Reuters, CNN .. Live reporting .. Lyusya again did not lie, everyone was released .. Brothers in faith do not abandon their brethren ..
              1. sheet
                sheet 21 September 2022 22: 54
                0
                Quote: 1939_1940
                RBC, NTV, Reuters, CNN .. Live reporting .. Lyusya again did not lie, everyone was released .. Brothers in faith do not abandon their brethren ..

                Aslin, Pinner, Brahim released or some others?
                1. Virus-free crown
                  Virus-free crown 21 September 2022 23: 04
                  +2
                  Quote: sheet
                  Quote: 1939_1940
                  RBC, NTV, Reuters, CNN .. Live reporting .. Lyusya again did not lie, everyone was released .. Brothers in faith do not abandon their brethren ..

                  Aslin, Pinner, Brahim released or some others?

                  Britons Sean Pinner and Aiden Aslin, as well as Moroccan citizen Saadoun Brahim. - BBC quote
                  1. Frank Muller
                    Frank Muller 21 September 2022 23: 59
                    +15
                    If I'm not mistaken, there was already a message on the "Reports of the Militia" website that these citizens were buried. Yes, it looks like they've been resurrected. Bude will take up arms again and fight again. The authority of the Russian government is going through the roof...
                    1. dmi.pris
                      dmi.pris 22 September 2022 05: 56
                      0
                      They pulled out our prisoners. There were pilots there, but they were not going to give them up at all. Only to the leaders of "Azov".
                2. 1939_1940
                  1939_1940 21 September 2022 23: 50
                  0
                  Yes, and they are also a plus for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Azov .. Photo and video in the cart ..
        4. cmax
          cmax 21 September 2022 22: 27
          +12
          Quote: Pytnik
          All of you who are against ciscos, did you watch telegram channels today? Have you seen the lines at the Finnish border? and tickets to Turkey were sold out in the morning in Moscow .... I’m not going to run and hide, but there’s not much patriotism either, (many familiar friends called today, there are already “lucky ones”

          The Finnish border service has already stated that there are no queues. The footage is old. You can look and make sure even on the Polish resource onet.pl. They would be happy to confirm the queues at the borders, but the Finns said no queues.
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          2. solar
            solar 22 September 2022 11: 00
            -1
            Google now shows traffic jams start 12 km before the border
        5. TIR
          TIR 21 September 2022 23: 22
          +25
          We don’t bring down the supply routes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, we don’t strike at bridges, the command doesn’t understand what it’s doing, gestures of goodwill to the enemy, we promise that we won’t leave anyone, and then in a couple of days without preparation, we surrendered entire cities without a fight, let the Azov people go, including 3 foreign mercenaries. Well, with what thoughts will the mobilization go to war? As I see from the actions of the Kremlin, this is not their war and they will surrender everything more easily. Well, if this is not their war, then why should this war be of ordinary citizens?
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          2. VasyaRules
            VasyaRules 22 September 2022 02: 00
            +10
            Just another betrayal from the authorities, moreover, they demand patriotism from us! What do they mean by this? The ability to keep noodles on your ears?
            1. AAC
              AAC 22 September 2022 02: 21
              +2
              They just hint that there should be no captured foreigners and Nazis. And our prisoners cannot arbitrarily surrender (the article is now). And then the authorities put cancer. Give them back, give them back. Zugzwang happened. I see all these decisions as a chain of events.
          3. Administrator
            Administrator 22 September 2022 04: 33
            +1
            It was just necessary to rescue the godfather of the GDP. The task was set - the Ukrainians balked, in the end, everyone got what they wanted. The somewhat unequal exchange is surprising, 200 + 5 fascists for 55 Russian military + 1 Medvedchuk. And this despite the fact that the ukrofascists still have more than 100 (there are different versions by number) of our guys in captivity.
          4. Nikoha2010
            Nikoha2010 22 September 2022 06: 51
            +1
            Maksim! hi
            Well, with what thoughts will the mobilization go to war?
            Don't take anyone prisoner! As for the rest, I completely agree with you!
        6. Zheka-Filimonov
          Zheka-Filimonov 22 September 2022 00: 16
          +2
          They also called a friend of mine, I was surprised by the reaction of the employer (who drowned for the SVO) "write in your own way"
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 22 September 2022 00: 21
            0
            Quote: Zheka-Filimonov
            I was surprised by the reaction of the employer (who drowned for the SVO) "write in your own way"

            Why is it so surprising?
          2. saigon
            saigon 22 September 2022 13: 58
            0
            An acquaintance was also offered, he said at the military registration and enlistment office about the situation.
            In a word, the employer and the lifting paid, I wonder who told him that he was wrong?
        7. 41 REGION
          41 REGION 22 September 2022 01: 25
          0
          Quote: Pytnik
          Have you seen the lines at the Finnish border?

          Haven't seen, can you show me request
        8. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 22 September 2022 04: 37
          -3
          the border will be closed and not released, many will not run away
        9. Serg koma
          Serg koma 22 September 2022 11: 44
          0
          Quote: Pytnik
          Have you seen the lines at the Finnish border? and tickets to Turkey sold out like in the morning in Moscow ....
        10. Serg koma
          Serg koma 22 September 2022 11: 51
          0
          Quote: Pytnik
          Have you seen the lines at the Finnish border? and tickets to Turkey sold out like in the morning in Moscow ....


          It depends on WHERE to run away from ... Where there are more "citizens", tickets are more expensive from there, as they say "on demand" am
      3. navigator777
        navigator777 21 September 2022 21: 37
        +9
        If mobilization had been announced in time, then now these 300 tons would be. were already at the front and with might and main crushed the enemy.
      4. Vovavvs
        Vovavvs 22 September 2022 03: 18
        -5
        I hope that "knowledgeable people" work in the Defense Ministry and lead the fighting, and not on TV, where everyone has the right to express their opinion. And by the way, Rudolfich has a military education
        1. aglet
          aglet 22 September 2022 10: 39
          -1
          "And by the way, Rudolfich has a military education"
          so maybe in mine, instead of Shoigu? that foreman
    2. TIR
      TIR 21 September 2022 21: 01
      +31
      There, the consumption of BC art goes in whole echelons. And this is not for the red word I write. Such volumes of ammunition and equipment can only be transported by railways. Vehicles simply can't handle it. Therefore, I do not quite understand why Ukraine should not be de-energized. In extreme cases, reduce electricity generation. Even a slight decrease will lead to the collapse of railway transport as one of the major consumers of electricity. The destruction of bridges across the Dnieper would have brought to naught any major offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is clear that the bridge is hard to destroy, especially the railway, but the generation of electric energy is easier to stop! There is clearly an agreement on these points. No wonder the children of officials in the west. Suddenly they start to die randomly
      1. Alexei
        Alexei 21 September 2022 21: 30
        +11
        Quote: TIR
        There is clearly an agreement on these points

        There are probably more points.
        1. Letun
          Letun 21 September 2022 22: 10
          +7
          Quote: Alexej
          Quote: TIR
          There is clearly an agreement on these points

          There are probably more points.

          By agreement.
          Shariy has already posted a photo from the UAE of mercenaries who were sentenced to death in the DPR. At the bottom right, in a black T-shirt, an Englishman who sang the anthem ...
          1. impostor
            impostor 21 September 2022 22: 21
            +4
            Some kind of hat, but a non-foreign agent of RBC confirms, on other news hubs - zero ... There are no words, just ... censored only ... Whoever is in the subject - explain, it doesn’t fit in your head ... Khinziram, please do not worry, do not panic , the opinion of the arkuls of the forum is important ...
            1. Letun
              Letun 21 September 2022 22: 45
              -1
              Quote: impostor
              Some kind of hat, but a non-foreign agent of RBC confirms, on other news hubs - zero ... There are no words, just ... censored only ...

              The news has just arrived. I think tomorrow the Internet will be buzzing.
              1. impostor
                impostor 21 September 2022 22: 49
                -5
                Maybe an exchange, 200 for 200, what do you think?
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            2. Jeremiah
              Jeremiah 22 September 2022 08: 37
              -5
              And what about the exchange of Medvedchuk? Does it fit in your head?
      2. yaglon
        yaglon 21 September 2022 21: 38
        +7
        World War I, positional, in all its glory. It remains to play a football match in the neutral zone.
      3. Sid2014
        Sid2014 21 September 2022 22: 08
        +20
        And American, British and other mercenaries were released. Another gesture of crushing will!!! And we were told that there would be a trial. And mobilization is to control the next 300 thousand. And there are bridges in Ukraine. Railway works. Tanks and artillery are being transferred ...
        1. Evgeny_Sviridenko
          Evgeny_Sviridenko 21 September 2022 23: 02
          0
          And if the next 300 are "taken away" then won't the people have concrete questions to the authorities? And moreover, some of these people will already be armed. At least about her competence? Or will they eat silently and not choke? For example, how World War 1 ended for the Romanov dynasty, everyone knows ... So the responsibility, although it is possible and based on fear, I think there is none. Still more competence, and not just propaganda and beautiful words. I also think that now there are a lot of random people in the military sphere, attracted by good military salaries and years of peaceful life without serious wars. And the sense of them as from a goat of milk ... Our professor Sergey Savelyev calls such imitators.
          1. aglet
            aglet 22 September 2022 10: 44
            +2
            "And if the next 300 are 'taken away', won't the people have concrete questions to the authorities?"
            the authorities have the National Guard, which will gladly answer any questions of the so-called people
            1. Jeremiah
              Jeremiah 22 September 2022 20: 30
              +1
              the authorities have the National Guard, which will gladly answer any questions of the so-called people

              Something like that.
      4. militarist63
        militarist63 21 September 2022 22: 13
        -18
        In extreme cases, reduce electricity generation. Even a slight decrease will lead to the collapse of railway transport as one of the major consumers of electricity.
        This (especially insignificant ...) will not lead to any collapse of railway transport, in matters of the delivery of military cargo! UZ has an abundant fleet of diesel locomotives! ... It's just that they will all be attracted to transport military trains, to the detriment of civilian cargo and passenger traffic! That's all.
        But where there will really be a collapse is among the civilian population, especially in cities ... I think, in the absence of electricity, and, accordingly, water (and you won’t use sewage here either) Russophobes (among those who have not yet been ) among the civilian population will be specifically added! And especially among those who, for example, one of their relatives will die while in the hospital, in intensive care ...
        At the same time, the troops (at war) do not need that industrial power grid at all, they have autonomous power supplies!
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 21 September 2022 22: 19
          +7
          UZ has an abundant fleet of diesel locomotives!
          Mostly shunting - and they won’t pull the train - five cars, and then with a speed of 10 km / h.
          1. Chronos
            Chronos 21 September 2022 22: 28
            +15
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            UZ has an abundant fleet of diesel locomotives!
            Mostly shunting - and they won’t pull the train - five cars, and then with a speed of 10 km / h.

            I will add. Diesel locomotives are diesel locomotives, but the traffic control system (semaphores, turnouts, control over train schedules and intervals) is also on electricity. If the substations are knocked out, the traffic will have to be controlled manually, and this is a colossal failure.
            1. man
              man 21 September 2022 22: 55
              -1
              I will add. Diesel locomotives are diesel locomotives, but the traffic control system (semaphores, turnouts, control over train schedules and intervals) is also on electricity. If the substations are knocked out, the traffic will have to be controlled manually, and this is a colossal failure.
              And how to knock out? If by aviation, then I just watched the duet of Kvachkov and Girkin. They assure that there is no longer air superiority, the West has given very powerful air defense. If you want, I can look for a link
              1. Chronos
                Chronos 21 September 2022 23: 04
                +3
                Quote: mann
                I will add. Diesel locomotives are diesel locomotives, but the traffic control system (semaphores, turnouts, control over train schedules and intervals) is also on electricity. If the substations are knocked out, the traffic will have to be controlled manually, and this is a colossal failure.
                And how to knock out? If by aviation, then I just watched the duet of Kvachkov and Girkin. They assure that there is no longer air superiority, the West has given very powerful air defense. If you want, I can look for a link

                There is an advantage in the air for a larger number of aircraft, which, among other things, can deliver long-range missile strikes. There is also the Navy, Iskanders, Bastions, Point U. In short, substations are knocked out by rockets. By the way, there was a blow to railway substations. I had to continue.
                1. man
                  man 21 September 2022 23: 12
                  -3
                  There is an advantage in the air for more aviation,
                  Well, according to the duet, aviation disappears due to air defense. I remember that they said that in Soviet times Ukraine had the best air defense. The personnel were saved, and the West gave the equipment. What I heard half an hour ago, I’m writing. There was no talk about missiles
                2. militarist63
                  militarist63 21 September 2022 23: 28
                  -2
                  And about yours:
                  speaking, substations are knocked out by rockets. By the way, there was a blow to railway substations. I had to continue.
                  - before you initially write to me about diesel locomotives, you would read more carefully what the one to whom I answered wrote, namely:
                  In extreme cases, reduce electricity generation. Even a slight decrease will lead to the collapse of railway transport as one of the major consumers of electricity.
                  and what I then answered! Those. we are not talking about some kind of railway traction substations, but about strikes against generating stations, i.e. Thermal power plant, thermal power plant, hydroelectric power station ... and I answer him exactly to this! But there is no talk at all about strikes on railway traction substations! Therefore, before joining the dialogue, it is better to study the dispute!
                  1. Chronos
                    Chronos 22 September 2022 00: 14
                    +11
                    And at traction substations, electricity is taken from the Sun? If you sequentially knock out TPPs and CHPs, then the traction substations will stop working. And stop thinking about how the ukromirnyak is.
                3. TIR
                  TIR 21 September 2022 23: 29
                  +5
                  Substations can be quickly restored. It is necessary to hit the steam boilers of thermal power plants and the engine rooms of hydroelectric power plants. Then they will have a choice - either to provide people with electricity, or to stop production and railway
                  1. militarist63
                    militarist63 21 September 2022 23: 36
                    -13
                    Substations can be quickly restored. It is necessary to hit the steam boilers of thermal power plants and the engine rooms of hydroelectric power plants. Then they will have a choice - either to provide people with electricity, or to stop production and railway
                    Yes? Yes, they will not make any choice - they will not even think about people! But what opinion will take root among people deprived of electricity ?! After all, from whom it flew "over the boilers" they will know, moreover, "in colors" ...
              2. Russian jacket
                Russian jacket 22 September 2022 16: 25
                +1
                Having knocked out the distribution substations of 750, 500, 220,330,110 kilovolts, we will put the entire energy system of Ukraine on the blades. There are no transformers in reserve for such capacities from the word at all. Small power plants will be able to provide the population at a minimum through networks of 6-10 kilovolts. And from a piece of iron and enterprises will be sour. The strike on the stations recently showed that this is very unpleasant.
            2. militarist63
              militarist63 21 September 2022 23: 10
              0
              I will add. Diesel locomotives are diesel locomotives, but the traffic control system (semaphores, turnouts, control over train schedules and intervals) is also on electricity. If the substations are knocked out, the traffic will have to be controlled manually, and this is a colossal failure.
              Dear, Chronos, all semaphores and switches are tied to an uninterrupted operation system that has diesel generators located at overtaking points, sidings and at track distances! The same is with the dispatch service (control over the train schedule and intervals) - at the railway stations where this service works, as a rule, at the posts of the EC services or on the territory of the station distance of the track there are stationary diesel power supplies!
              1. Chronos
                Chronos 22 September 2022 00: 37
                +3
                It should be like this. And in fact, we see: we hit the Kharkiv TPP - train delays.
                1. militarist63
                  militarist63 22 September 2022 00: 45
                  -5
                  ... in fact, we see: we hit the Kharkiv TPP - train delays.
                  Have you seen it?! If you are not aware, then delays of trains (passenger) there regularly occur only from the fact that an air raid alert is simply announced! And again, what does the delay of electric passenger trains have to do with it and what does this have to do with the stability of the operation of semaphores, switches and dispatchers?
          2. militarist63
            militarist63 21 September 2022 22: 38
            -9
            Mostly shunting - but they won’t pull the train - five cars, and then with a speed of 10 km / h
            And here are shunting ...., I'm talking about mainline diesel locomotives! And there are more than 700 of them ... they can do it quite well.
            1. militarist63
              militarist63 21 September 2022 22: 54
              -10
              O! Pulled up, right there, "specialists" from the sofas ... put a minus! laughing
              1. Vitaly Sorokin
                Vitaly Sorokin 22 September 2022 08: 12
                -3
                And the "specialist" from the basement himself ???
                1. saigon
                  saigon 22 September 2022 14: 17
                  +1
                  No, the person is correct. Most likely, either SCBist or a mover. On the railway
            2. Chronos
              Chronos 21 September 2022 23: 01
              +2
              Quote: militarist63
              Mostly shunting - but they won’t pull the train - five cars, and then with a speed of 10 km / h
              And here are shunting ...., I'm talking about mainline diesel locomotives! And there are more than 700 of them ... they can do it quite well.

              Well, let's see how diesel locomotives without electricity will go with the help of manual adjustment.
              1. militarist63
                militarist63 21 September 2022 23: 14
                +1
                Well, let's see how diesel locomotives without electricity will go with the help of manual adjustment
                I, in principle, have already answered you (about semaphores ...)! You have a very vague idea of ​​​​modern railways ... laughing Probably from the movie "His Excellency's Adjutant", where the arrow was manually translated .... wink
              2. saigon
                saigon 22 September 2022 14: 16
                +3
                Yes, diesel locomotives on manual drives of turnouts will simply go. And they will go to the key wands like steam locomotives in the old days, everything is known how to work without electricity, of course, the passage of trains will fall.
                1. Russian jacket
                  Russian jacket 22 September 2022 16: 32
                  +1
                  Of course they will. But here the question is in the number .. there are several thousand electric trains in Ukraine, but diesel locomotives, I don’t remember the exact number, are less than a thousand. So the traffic will drop and strongly.
                  1. militarist63
                    militarist63 22 September 2022 22: 47
                    0
                    there are several thousand electric trains in Ukraine, but diesel locomotives, I don’t remember the exact number, less than a thousand
                    You exaggerated a little. For starters, an electric train is, in fact, a passenger train (although there are also not several thousand of them at all)! It's about LOCOMOTIVES MAIN! But among them there are about 1700 electric locomotives, and only 1 less diesel locomotives, i.e. about 700, as I wrote above ... When these 700 are mobilized for military transportation, they will do just fine, and even with a smaller number!
                  2. militarist63
                    militarist63 22 September 2022 23: 13
                    0
                    By the way, by 2015, LESS than 50% of the railways were electrified there (I deeply doubt that in 8 years something has been improved there in this regard) ... - by what means do trains travel there ???! wink
          3. saigon
            saigon 22 September 2022 14: 03
            0
            Come on, the shunting diesel locomotive will pull the train and for my God and at 60 km / h. I don’t know what they have there now, but the old TM will only trample on the way and 50 wagons.
            1. militarist63
              militarist63 23 September 2022 00: 53
              +1
              Come on, the shunting diesel locomotive will pull the train and for my God and at 60 km / h. I don’t know what they have there now, but the old TM will only trample on the way and 50 wagons.
              Well, about 50 wagons (loaded), you, of course, "turned down", but small trains on light sections of the railway (in particular, for example, the most massive Soviet TEM-2) are quite capable of carrying. And large trains with Western technology (if anyone hasn’t noticed) don’t form there, in fact! By the way, TEM-2 can also work with a coupling of two sections ..., with control from one post ....
              1. saigon
                saigon 23 September 2022 04: 21
                0
                At BAM there was a case of TM and 50 wagons each, well, of course, the construction of the fighters of the railway battalions back and forth (when it’s not easy, but it’s possible).
                Yes, and cigarette butts in one section worked there.
      5. VSO-396
        VSO-396 22 September 2022 05: 03
        -2
        Quote: TIR
        There, the consumption of BC art goes in whole echelons. And this is not for the red word I write. Such volumes of ammunition and equipment can only be transported by railways. Vehicles simply can't handle it. Therefore, I do not quite understand why Ukraine should not be de-energized. In extreme cases, reduce electricity generation. Even a slight decrease will lead to the collapse of railway transport as one of the major consumers of electricity. The destruction of bridges across the Dnieper would have brought to naught any major offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is clear that the bridge is hard to destroy, especially the railway, but the generation of electric energy is easier to stop! There is clearly an agreement on these points. No wonder the children of officials in the west. Suddenly they start to die randomly

        Do you think there are few locomotives there? And the railway bridge is an extremely difficult target for aircraft and missiles.
        1. Russian jacket
          Russian jacket 22 September 2022 16: 33
          0
          There are fewer diesel locomotives and much more than electric trains .., hi
        2. militarist63
          militarist63 23 September 2022 00: 17
          +1
          Do you think there are few locomotives there?
          Absolutely not enough! More than 50% of Ukrainian railways are not electrified, and the trains there (including freight trains) somehow still go ... request
    3. Vovavvs
      Vovavvs 22 September 2022 03: 34
      -1
      Yes, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were unlucky: not "Kharkov" defend Liman
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 September 2022 08: 15
      +2
      Quote: Sergio_7
      Information comes from the north of the Donetsk People's Republic that individual enemy detachments were able to enter the settlement of Drobyshevo.


      The Armed Forces of Ukraine entered Drobyshevo near Liman. Sources of the wargonzo project on the Donbass frontline report that the fighting for Drobyshevo began this morning. On the eve of the neo-Nazis managed to occupy the neighboring Yarovaya. Despite the fierce resistance of the reservists and volunteers, the terrorists nevertheless entered Drobyshevo. Now there is fighting in the village. Half of the village is under enemy control. The situation around Krasny Liman is becoming more and more critical.
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  3. ALARI
    ALARI 21 September 2022 20: 40
    -11
    It is not necessary to believe that the regrouping (retreat) went according to plan. It cannot be otherwise.
    1. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 21 September 2022 20: 50
      +8
      Quote: ALARI
      It is not necessary to believe that the regrouping (retreat) went according to plan. It cannot be otherwise.

      You have a good avatar, speaking.
      1. ALARI
        ALARI 22 September 2022 07: 04
        +2
        And why don't you like it, do I really have your permission or advice to ask about the drawings.? Take the burden on your own so as not to fall when walking, advice of the day.
        1. alexey sidykin
          alexey sidykin 22 September 2022 08: 21
          -4
          On the contrary, I like it ... you can immediately see who associates with whom lol
          1. ALARI
            ALARI 22 September 2022 11: 51
            0
            Well steadfast tin soldier success in the crucible laughing
            1. frog
              frog 22 September 2022 11: 56
              -2
              Forgive me generously, the man did not have pictures of Epishev with a tank ....
    2. invisible_man
      invisible_man 21 September 2022 20: 56
      -3
      Hopefully it was a bitter irony.
  4. alexey sidykin
    alexey sidykin 21 September 2022 20: 49
    +3
    Vargonzo has sat in a puddle with his messages more than once ... so I'll wait while I wait to draw conclusions.
    1. Andriuha077
      Andriuha077 21 September 2022 21: 10
      +2
      But he writes clearly.
      Militants of the terrorist group UG ("Ukrainian State")
    2. Alemax
      Alemax 21 September 2022 21: 14
      +4
      Vargonzo has sat in a puddle with his messages more than once ..

      Also noticed. And not just in a puddle, but specifically in a puddle.
      Therefore, I don’t perceive his information at all somewhere since May.
      1. impostor
        impostor 21 September 2022 21: 25
        +7
        And you know, in the cart, both Pegov and Turned and Rybar and Ridovka have similar infa, they receive it at the tactical level, here and now, the strategic situation develops late and turns out to be different in some cases. I think it’s not worth chasing them, they also hear (thank God they hear) the whistle of bullets ... because “you won’t hear your bullet, it whistled - not yours, albeit intermittently, but you breathe, the earth will wait” (c) ...
      2. bayard
        bayard 21 September 2022 23: 01
        +3
        Quote from Alex
        That's why I don't get it at all.

        Semyon appeared in the Donbass in the spring of 2014 even BEFORE the start of hostilities. Then with his wife - also a journalist for Komsomolskaya Pravda. Very young. In this war, Semyon grew both as a military commander and as a person, and now he is usually in the forefront. So it's not for you to grimace about him.
        And about changeable information, so much is changeable in war. Small settlements sometimes change hands several times a day. Now there are heavy battles, very heavy ones against superior enemy forces. The reserve forces are only arriving and deploying, but the balance of forces has not changed much so far. And the Ministry of Defense really does not like to admit regular failures, and information of this kind, as a rule, drags on.
        1. TIR
          TIR 21 September 2022 23: 33
          +1
          When leveling the front in the Kharkov region, not only the equipment was abandoned, but also the personnel. Now we need to think about how to call these people. There were quite a few of them taken prisoner. During the Second World War, such commanders were either removed from their posts or from this world
          1. bayard
            bayard 21 September 2022 23: 57
            +3
            The troops were withdrawn from there by order in order to avoid encirclement. If the equipment is faulty or unfilled, then it is abandoned. Another matter that it was necessary to blow up . And there, with such a generous "lend-lease", mainly the parquet "guard" distinguished itself.
            Quote: TIR
            Now we need to think about how to call these people.

            I understand that they are already releasing - I'm talking about the very exchange with the mediation of Prince Salman, which took place in Saudi Arabia.
            Yes - they were exchanged for foreign mercenaries and Azov. But they also have officers (including seniors) in captivity, and possibly pilots (about five planes were shot down there).
            Prisoners are always an exchange fund in time of war. And thank God we have much more of their prisoners.
            Quote: TIR
            During the Second World War, such commanders were either removed from their posts or from this world

            During the Second World War in the USSR, there was someone to change and punish such commanders. And we have the main problem and the reason is at the very top. All mistakes, losses and failures are due to gouging and unprofessionalism at the highest level.
            1. impostor
              impostor 22 September 2022 00: 08
              +4
              And there, with such a generous "lend-lease", mainly the parquet "guard" distinguished itself

              Are you sure that that Breakthrough was stupidly abandoned by the crew? What if the car was in the rearguard and the guys took the last fight when turning the harp? I think it is not necessary so abruptly without reinforced concrete bases hi
              1. bayard
                bayard 22 September 2022 00: 46
                +1
                The Sumerians did not find this tank right away, but a few days after our retreat. Abandoned and undressed.
                Most likely, during the retreat, the tank took off its shoes, they simply did not have time or the opportunity to quickly repair and tighten the harp, and in order not to delay the column, they dragged it into the forest and disguised it. Perhaps with the hope of returning soon with reinforcements.
                Why didn't they blow it up?
                Perhaps they did not want to unmask themselves with an explosion.
                Or maybe ... there was simply no fickford cord, but to throw a grenade ... you might not have time to run away, have you seen how the tanks explode? How high does the tower fly? And at what distance from the place of the explosion can this be experienced?
                About Lend-Lease, this is more about those 10 - 15 T-80BV (or U) abandoned along with the Msta-S and several infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers. By the way, it can be seen there that this place was shelled by artillery, and although direct hits on equipment are not visible, many cars were shattered by fragments. These were most likely left without fuel (and the T-80s are very hot) and they were simply abandoned. The guard quit. It seems that the BTG armored group was generally, which means there was a command, perhaps there were also sappers. But the equipment was left intact.
                The Armed Forces of Ukraine are now generally full of captured equipment, since the time of the "good will gesture" from near Kyiv, Chernihiv and Sumy. The captured T-72B3M, T-80BV \ U, and light armored vehicles are now fighting for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And what is most surprising, it is the parquet guards who so easily part with the latest technology and go on a "negative offensive". So it was near Kyiv, so it happened near Kharkov.
                But others are fighting well. And the Airborne Forces fully confirm their guards status. And the Russian Guard, by the way, nicknamed the Guards in advance, confirmed its Guards status. At least those of their representatives that participate in the NWO.
                And also - it is necessary to instruct the troops, distribute memos and assign a measure of responsibility for abandoned equipment on the battlefield. And it is simple to provide means for our equipment to undermine equipment with a remote control, or at least a fickford cord of the required length.
            2. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 22 September 2022 00: 44
              +4
              and possibly pilots
              Yes, the pilots are also among the exchanged. Trade in coal and fertilizers to third countries through Europe is allowed.
              1. bayard
                bayard 22 September 2022 00: 59
                -1
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                Yes, the pilots are also among the exchanged.

                For me, this is a much greater value than someone's godfather ... although ... no, Medvedchuk, after all, had a hand in my exchange ... and congratulated me on the new 2015 ...
                In the end , now the emphasis is apparently being placed on coercion into negotiations . And Medvedchuk can be very useful.
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter 22 September 2022 01: 03
                  +3
                  the stake is apparently being made on coercion to negotiate
                  Dill has a mega-peremoga - I climbed into their garbage dump to read. Negotiations now simply cannot be, they are already dividing reparations.
                  1. bayard
                    bayard 22 September 2022 01: 48
                    -2
                    So no one will persuade them to negotiate. In the best case for them, they will be FORCED to negotiate.
                    But for this we now need to stabilize the front. And then (or at the same time) start cutting down their entire infrastructure.
                    ENERGY!
                    Transport system.
                    Just smash their thermal power plants and substations to hydroelectric power stations. Knock out all the main and traction substations!
                    Bridges should also get their own.
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    Dill has a mega win

                    After the referendums, it will definitely turn into a pumpkin / zrada.
                    And we will bring reparations to them "at the tips of our bayonets."
                    1. Bolt cutter
                      Bolt cutter 22 September 2022 01: 53
                      +2
                      After the referendums, it will definitely turn into a pumpkin / zrada
                      Very beautiful PR Kyiv turned. They are already calling Russian soldiers captured to surrender.
                      Just smash their thermal power plants and substations to hydroelectric power plants
                      Obviously there are some reasons why these understandable steps have not yet been taken.
                      1. bayard
                        bayard 22 September 2022 02: 24
                        -4
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Obviously there are some reasons why these understandable steps have not yet been taken.

                        Yes, Putin told about it.
                        That already in Minsk, and then in Istanbul, the Kyiv authorities were ready to agree to Russia's demands - a non-nuclear status, a bloc-free status, a ban on foreign military bases, recognition of the independence of the LDNR.
                        ALL !
                        From other territories then were ready to leave .
                        And the Sumerians of Bankova were ready to go for it.
                        BUT ! They were banned by their owners. Today, Putin said that it was the Anglo-Saxons who thwarted the peace agreements. And first of all - the British.
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Very beautiful PR Kyiv turned. They are already calling Russian soldiers captured to surrender.

                        Yes, they have been screaming about this from the very beginning of the NWO - their work is like that. request Inadequate.
        2. raki-uzo
          raki-uzo 22 September 2022 05: 09
          +1
          Semyon won the war at least 4 times in the 44 day war in Karabakh. The usual propagandist for haters.
      3. alexey sidykin
        alexey sidykin 22 September 2022 07: 00
        -4
        Well, compared to many other military commanders, Vargonzo can be said to be still normal in my subscriptions. Although how many have already unsubscribed ..
  5. Quote Lavrov
    Quote Lavrov 21 September 2022 20: 49
    0
    Yes, well, as much as possible!
    Can't we still create a stable defense?
    Well, after all, it is clear that before the referendums of the Armed Forces of Ukraine they will try by all means to reduce the territory that will return to Russia. And we just don't have the right to let them do it.
    After the mobilized have prepared, it will, of course, become easier. But now it is necessary to transfer any reserves, but hold on.
    1. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 21 September 2022 21: 05
      +20
      On the mobilized, it takes a couple of months to prepare. But there are not enough troops at the front now. And why - this is for the General Staff and those who planned and developed the SVO.
      1. Vadim Zhivov
        Vadim Zhivov 21 September 2022 21: 19
        +21
        Sorry, I want to ask a question. Have we run out of trained troops throughout the country?
        1. TatarinSSSR
          TatarinSSSR 21 September 2022 22: 35
          +1
          Contract? Basically yes. You will not send half of the border guards from the entire border of Russia to the trenches, will you? Who will protect her? Or from bases in Armenia, Tajikistan? Or crumbs from Syria? Who will stay there? For the most part, conscripts were left without work. But they have demobilization in half a year. And touch their bottom. We have more MIA in the state than the Army of the Ministry of Defense.
          1. border
            border 22 September 2022 17: 33
            +1
            Quote: TatarinSSSR
            Contract? Basically yes. You will not send half of the border guards from the entire border of Russia to the trenches, will you? Who will protect her? Or from bases in Armenia, Tajikistan? Or crumbs from Syria? Who will stay there? For the most part, conscripts were left without work. But they have demobilization in half a year. And touch their bottom. We have more MIA in the state than the Army of the Ministry of Defense.

            If you didn’t know, then under the reform for many years there have been no border troops, but there is a border service with light small arms. I will not name the number. but it cannot be a reserve of combat units in any form.
            1. TatarinSSSR
              TatarinSSSR 22 September 2022 20: 11
              -1
              Knew. Himself a border guard, former. Refers to the FSB border service. Equipped with light armored vehicles, transport and attack helicopters and monitoring and transport aircraft, reconnaissance-type UAVs. Far from a bad service.
        2. bayard
          bayard 21 September 2022 23: 12
          +2
          Quote: VadimLives
          Have we run out of trained troops throughout the country?

          Once again about arithmetic. In the SV Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on 24.02.2022. there were 280 thousand - with staff, clerks, cooks, rembats, communications units, RKhBZ, moreover, about half of this composition were conscripts who could not go into battle.
          There is also the Airborne Forces, in which there are 50, but not all of them are combat, and there are also conscripts.
          There is the Marine Corps of the Navy - 20, and also not all of them are combat and there are conscripts.
          And our country is HUGE, the neighbors are restless, and all these areas must be covered.
          It is now clear ?
          That is why the National Guard, PMCs, and volunteer units are fighting in the NMD.
          With the mobilization, they were already late in many ways, it had to be started back in the spring or no later than mid-summer. And now you have to somehow hold on until these mobilized ones mature.
      2. 76SSSR
        76SSSR 21 September 2022 21: 29
        0
        Well, send, for example, the 76th Pskov or 336th Bialystok while the office plankton in Gudermes is trained.
        1. Vadim Zhivov
          Vadim Zhivov 21 September 2022 21: 40
          +2
          And you think we only have plankton left. Yes, in my time it was a good idea not to go to the aria
          1. 76SSSR
            76SSSR 21 September 2022 21: 46
            +10
            It seems that yes, well, even factory workers, farmers and laborers. Where is the regular army?? Why do we have divisions scattered across Russia? In order to conduct exercises, and wait for officers to have an early pension?
          2. UVB
            UVB 21 September 2022 22: 12
            +1
            Quote: VadimLives
            Yes, in my time it was a good idea not to go to the aria
            100% agree! Personally, for Magarych, I persuaded a friend to undergo fluorography for me during the draft medical examination, there were fears that they would be rejected, since before the call itself I suffered serious pneumonia. And the best friend himself with a spoon opened abscesses with the strongest sore throat, just to go to the army. And now something is not observed mass desire to serve, although, of course, there are exceptions.
            1. Vadim Zhivov
              Vadim Zhivov 21 September 2022 22: 38
              -1
              I have a friend for the new year and my aunt called the military registration and enlistment office and persuaded me to be taken away on January 5th. Call 89 and left already at 90
            2. Bubuzon
              Bubuzon 22 September 2022 13: 58
              +1
              In 82, I worked at a mailbox with armor, voluntarily took off my armor and came to the draft board. And then there was Afghanistan. I was called up with a classmate, I walked on the wires with him, I ended up in the Shuya AbrBM, and he went to Afghanistan. Six months later, he came to Moscow with the political officer on a business trip and ended up at his funeral (((
        2. Bubuzon
          Bubuzon 21 September 2022 23: 12
          +1
          Pskovka has been fighting there for a long time. Contractors only.
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  6. Heisenberg
    Heisenberg 21 September 2022 20: 54
    +31
    A little off topic. Unfortunately, those who from the very beginning were extremely skeptical that the death sentence on wild geese would be carried out turned out to be right. Once again, the words of those in power turned out to be lies.
    1. faiver
      faiver 21 September 2022 21: 04
      -1
      we do not know, and perhaps we will not find out - why they were released ....
      1. Heisenberg
        Heisenberg 21 September 2022 21: 12
        +33
        we do not know, and perhaps we will not find out - why they were released ....
        Okay, let's say. But why blurt out your tongue, and then do the opposite? Who will believe them after this? The Tribunal over Azov promised Pushilin by the end of the summer, September is already coming to an end. Are they going to be judged at all? The main thing is consistency! He said - he did, and we have a constant shying from side to side.
        1. 1939_1940
          1939_1940 21 September 2022 22: 53
          0
          Moreover, they agreed to exchange some 50 Ukrainians for 200 Russians .. This was said on CNN live ..
          1. TIR
            TIR 21 September 2022 23: 37
            -2
            Near Kharkov, many of ours were captured during the "leveling of the front." Maybe they change
            1. 1939_1940
              1939_1940 21 September 2022 23: 47
              0
              They write that another 200 people were exchanged, a lot of Azov .. The photo is already in the cart ..
        2. bayard
          bayard 21 September 2022 23: 18
          -2
          Quote: Heisenberg
          The Tribunal over Azov promised Pushilin by the end of the summer, September is already coming to an end. Are they going to be judged at all? The main thing is consistency! Said - done

          When the terms of the trial of "Azov" were called, they expected that by the end of the summer either the Armed Forces of Ukraine would be finally defeated, or at least the entire territory of the DPR would be liberated.
          And we still have Donetsk under daily shelling.
          There will be a court. And the mercenaries were most likely exchanged for someone. Behind the scenes.
          And rightly so, because that is what prisoners of war are needed for - as an exchange fund.
          1. Heisenberg
            Heisenberg 21 September 2022 23: 23
            +4
            And the mercenaries were most likely exchanged for someone. Behind the scenes.
            Shariy posts pictures of satisfied Azov residents who are already at home! And Azov, according to our alleged laws, is a terrorist organization.
            1. Repellent
              Repellent 21 September 2022 23: 27
              -16
              Quote: Heisenberg
              Shariy posts pictures of satisfied Azov residents who are already at home!

              And the sad troll "Heisenberg" wanders around VO and posts all sorts of rubbish request laughing
              1. 1939_1940
                1939_1940 21 September 2022 23: 48
                0
                Everything is true, the exchange of Azov .. A bunch of photos, flowers hugs .. Hold on dichlorvos .. It will be even more painful .. tongue
                1. Repellent
                  Repellent 21 September 2022 23: 54
                  -12
                  Oh, the troll came crawling... to protect her older comrade laughing

                  Crawl, crawl, troll... soon you'll be gone request
                  1. 1939_1940
                    1939_1940 22 September 2022 00: 29
                    +1
                    Dichlorvos, what is trolling? I told the honest truth, and you once again turned out to be a balabol.. Learn to use the Internet while you have it.. laughing
                    1. Repellent
                      Repellent 22 September 2022 00: 31
                      -13
                      Quote: 1939_1940
                      I told the pure truth

                      The pure truth, slightly seasoned with lies, is trolling. Such is the sturgeon of the second freshness, you panimash yes laughing

                      Quote: 1939_1940
                      and you turned out to be a buffoon again ..

                      Estimates of the local hangout of the trolls do not interest me in the least. Crawl, troll, you don't have long left No.
                      1. 1939_1940
                        1939_1940 22 September 2022 00: 44
                        -1
                        Kalina and Volyn are also free .. They say they changed them to some kind of gay .. And to Medvedchuk .. tongue
                2. VasyaRules
                  VasyaRules 22 September 2022 02: 04
                  -2
                  We will be told about a tactical maneuver when exchanging dung
            2. bayard
              bayard 21 September 2022 23: 48
              +2
              Quote: Heisenberg
              Shariy posts pictures of satisfied Azov residents who are already at home! And Azov, according to our alleged laws, is a terrorist organization

              And who was changed for these happy ones, he does not fast?
              Or is it a "goodwill gesture"?
              After the Sumerian counter-offensive, they captured our people, perhaps quite valuable. About five aircraft were shot down in that theater of operations, possibly they were exchanged for pilots. And one pilot of all these Azov people is more than worth it.
              And yet - Prince Salman is a great sympathizer of Russia, and if he undertook to mediate, then this is definitely not to the detriment of us.
              1. Heisenberg
                Heisenberg 21 September 2022 23: 55
                +8
                After the Sumerian counter-offensive, they captured our people, perhaps quite valuable.
                Thousands of fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are in captivity. The exchange fund is huge. But Azov is recognized as a terrorist organization at the legislative level. It turns out that the drug addict Ze did not lie, promising to rescue them, and our authorities - as always.
                1. Repellent
                  Repellent 21 September 2022 23: 56
                  -17
                  Quote: Heisenberg
                  drug addict Ze did not lie, promising to rescue them, and ours - as always

                  Do not confuse the pedals: yours are the drug addict Ze yes
                  1. Heisenberg
                    Heisenberg 22 September 2022 00: 20
                    +8
                    Radishes, Volyn and Kalina are also at home, in response, Moscow received a whole Medvedchuk. Be healthy, manul, good night.
                    1. Repellent
                      Repellent 22 September 2022 00: 28
                      -12
                      Quote: Heisenberg
                      manul

                      It's funny. I don't recognize you in that make-up.

                      That, however, will not prevent me from spoiling you. I'm going to rot you, "Heisenberg", how do you like it? wink
                2. bayard
                  bayard 22 September 2022 00: 05
                  +3
                  I have big doubts that the power you are talking about is yours.
                  But this is our power. Whatever it is.
                  Quote: Heisenberg
                  Thousands of fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are in captivity. The exchange fund is huge.

                  You came to the market, laid out the goods, you have a LOT of them. But the buyer chooses only what he needs, and not what you would like to impose on him. And this is when you need to get his goods (during the exchange) at all costs.
                  This is how it happens , is and was in this particular case .
                  Have you ever traded?
                  Or maybe participate?
                  And they changed me.
                  Any exchange takes place only when both parties agree with such an exchange and are interested in it.
                3. Chronos
                  Chronos 22 September 2022 00: 42
                  +2
                  Quote: Heisenberg
                  After the Sumerian counter-offensive, they captured our people, perhaps quite valuable.
                  Thousands of fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are in captivity. The exchange fund is huge. But Azov is recognized as a terrorist organization at the legislative level. It turns out that the drug addict Ze did not lie, promising to rescue them, and our authorities - as always.

                  We do not have a huge exchange fund. Zelensky wanted to spit on ordinary APU officers.
                  1. Rosemary
                    Rosemary 22 September 2022 00: 56
                    -3
                    Bulba Thrones

                    They say in total they exchanged 215 Ukrainians for 85 of ours and Medvedchuk.
                    Medvedchuk and 55 of ours have already been returned to us.
                    And tomorrow we're expecting 30 more.

                    1. Chronos
                      Chronos 22 September 2022 01: 10
                      -2
                      Tsipsoshnik Bulba simply reprinted Rybar. No link. "They say".
              2. Santa Fe
                Santa Fe 22 September 2022 00: 27
                +1
                And who did he change to these happy ones

                about five planes were shot down on that theater of operations, perhaps they were exchanged for pilots

                On Medvedchuk
                1. bayard
                  bayard 22 September 2022 00: 55
                  -2
                  Quote: Santa Fe
                  On Medvedchuk

                  Damn you. what But for so long they fought off such an exchange. Well, let this be another issue in the KGC, which is so successful in this amazing "special operation".
                  Perhaps Medvedchuk was needed.
                  Possible to negotiate.
              3. 1939_1940
                1939_1940 22 September 2022 00: 49
                +3
                Our value turned out to be Putin's godfather .. Even the commanders of Azov were given for him ..
                1. bayard
                  bayard 22 September 2022 01: 08
                  -1
                  As far as I have already learned, it was a big exchange - 215 Sumerians for 85 of ours + Medvedchuk.
                  I don’t know how valuable Medvedchuk is to the Kremlin, but 85 of our officers and soldiers, including pilots, are definitely worth such an exchange.
                  And Medvedchuk ... at one time he put a lot of effort into organizing the exchange of prisoners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for prisoners of the LDNR and political prisoners. And I am one of those who owe him my exchange after 4 months of captivity.
                  Quote: 1939_1940
                  Even the commanders of Azov were given for him ..

                  I would give these slugs for one of our pilots. That's why we keep the exchange fund.
                  And they don’t need ordinary APU officers - they will mobilize new ones. The men will run out, they will take on the women.
                  1. Ludoman
                    Ludoman 22 September 2022 01: 20
                    +3
                    As far as I have already learned, it was a big exchange - 215 Sumerians for 85 of ours + Medvedchuk.
                    I don’t know how valuable Medvedchuk is to the Kremlin, but 85 of our officers and soldiers, including pilots, are definitely worth such an exchange.

                    There are no such people in the world who are worth it, but I would not even exchange myself for them. Just a great idea, in addition to the soldiers, Ukraine received a boost in morale, and we demoralized the army and society. This is not how wars are won.
                    And Medvedchuk ... at one time he put a lot of effort into organizing the exchange of prisoners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for prisoners of the LDNR and political prisoners. And I am one of those who owe him my exchange after 4 months of captivity.

                    Prisoners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on prisoners of the LDNR is one thing, but on the dogs of Azov it’s completely different
                    And they don’t need ordinary APU officers - they will mobilize new ones. The men will run out, they will take on the women.

                    And this is just a leaky government does not know how to convince.
                    1. 1939_1940
                      1939_1940 22 September 2022 01: 42
                      0
                      They have 124 officers in exchange, we have six.. Brilliant.. Who came up with this masterpiece? angry
                      1. bayard
                        bayard 22 September 2022 01: 57
                        -1
                        Quote: 1939_1940
                        They have 124 officers in exchange, we have six.

                        Can you tell me the source of this amazing arithmetic? Where is the cipher from?
                      2. Vadim Zhivov
                        Vadim Zhivov 22 September 2022 02: 12
                        +2
                        He has been on the site for a week for me it is dangerous to believe such information
                      3. bayard
                        bayard 22 September 2022 02: 28
                        0
                        So I'm so ... politely, I try to bring trolls to clean waters. Well, what are 124 officers? lol These are the Sumerian fighters of the divan troops who went on the attack.
                      4. 1939_1940
                        1939_1940 22 September 2022 21: 39
                        -2
                        The official telegram of the President of Ukraine .. We have, I was mistaken, 8 officers .. And if you look at their lists, there are all odious figures
                    2. bayard
                      bayard 22 September 2022 02: 15
                      -2
                      Quote: Ludoman
                      There are no such people in the world who are worth it, but I would not even exchange myself for them.

                      And if, apart from these, the opposite side does not want to change anyone?
                      Leave our guys there?
                      I repeat - our pilots alone are worth more than all those exchanged Azov people.
                      Quote: Ludoman
                      Prisoners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on prisoners of the LDNR is one thing, but on the dogs of Azov it’s completely different

                      That is, for you to execute an Azov citizen is much more important than saving your prisoners of war??
                      Is it mental for you?
                      Or professional provocative?
                      Quote: Ludoman
                      Ukraine, in addition to soldiers, received a rise in morale,

                      She received this rise thanks to a successful counteroffensive. The rest is an adjective to the main. And lower this spirit by the execution of the Nazis "Azov" request will not work .
                      Rather, it will be perceived as a manifestation of weakness and revenge.
                      Quote: Ludoman
                      This is not how wars are won.

                      Wars are won in different ways.
                      And they are won, as a rule, by large battalions. And mobilization is bound to help in this matter.
                      And salvation from the captivity of OUR Warriors is obliged to RAISE THE FIGHTING SPIRIT of the warring Army. And that is exactly how it should be taken. Look at what WE GOT from this exchange. And we will be able to execute these Nazis even after the war, if the Victory is ours.
                      And she (Victory) will definitely be with us.
                      1. Ludoman
                        Ludoman 22 September 2022 03: 26
                        -1
                        And if, apart from these, the opposite side does not want to change anyone?
                        Leave our guys there?

                        Yes! Do you even understand what's going on? Ukraine made a strong-willed decision not to exchange anyone except for the Azov people and bent us!!! Bent!
                        I repeat - only our pilots are worth more than all those exchanged Azov

                        No, morale support is more important, especially during mobilization. There is a serious war going on, there is no place for such weakness of character.
                        That is, for you to execute an Azov citizen is much more important than saving your prisoners of war??

                        Yes. To execute or not to exchange.
                        Is it mental for you?
                        Or professional provocative?

                        I just think rationally, it was much more profitable to kill them, or at least not to exchange them.
                        She received this rise thanks to a successful counteroffensive.

                        And we decided to add more joy to them with this idiotic decision.
                        The rest is an adjective to the main. And it will not work to lower this spirit by the execution of the Nazis "Azov" request.

                        But it turns out to raise us, the death of the enemy greatly contributes to this
                        Rather, it will be perceived as a manifestation of weakness and revenge.

                        I don’t think so, how many promises of executions were there? You have to answer for your words. And you need to take revenge on the enemy in general, always and wherever possible.
                        Wars are won in different ways.
                        And they are won, as a rule, by large battalions. And mobilization is bound to help in this matter.
                        And salvation from the captivity of OUR Warriors is obliged to RAISE THE FIGHTING SPIRIT of the warring Army.

                        Or maybe you will not talk nonsense, but just look at how people on the Internet reacted to this? I'll tell you, extremely negative! Greatly increased the morale of those who will be mobilized tomorrow. Let's do more!
                        And that is exactly how it should be taken.

                        This is if only instead of brains gruel.
                        Look at what WE GOT from this exchange.

                        And unlike you, I look not only at what we got, but also at what the enemy got.
                        And we will be able to execute these Nazis even after the war, if the Victory is ours.
                        And she (Victory) will definitely be with us.

                        Many of them by that time will be dumped in the EU or the USA, where we will no longer get them.
                      2. frog
                        frog 22 September 2022 09: 27
                        -2
                        How unpatriotic are you, sir wink You can't do it like that .... A general upsurge, queues at the military registration and enlistment offices, people rushing to the front line in droves, many in their uniforms. And you....
                        No, of course, there are some shortcomings against the background of our steady and immeasurable victories, not without it repeat But, nevertheless, the exchange took place. All the failed godfather and more ..... some ...... citizens were exchanged for worthless boobies. To whom some time ago patriotic squeals of such a degree were heard here that at least turn on the regeneration system. True, since then, many of those screaming where have they gone, apparently, have gone to the front, they are afraid that Kyiv will be taken without them and will not participate in the parade on Khreshchatyk. But regular mouthpieces remained wink
                  2. 1939_1940
                    1939_1940 22 September 2022 01: 23
                    -5
                    I agree with almost every word...drinks Good luck ..
        3. Crete 25
          Crete 25 22 September 2022 05: 33
          +1
          Well, I said it wouldn't. I was here as soon as they did not name for this.
          But honestly, I'd rather be wrong.
      2. Quote Lavrov
        Quote Lavrov 21 September 2022 21: 13
        +7
        What???? Seriously ?????
        If so, then there are simply no words ...
        Some kind of phantasmagoria - a step forward and two back. Mobilization and immediately spit on the verdict on the mercenaries to please the requests of "Western partners"? Really, I just can not understand what kind of logic!
        Recently I read the comments of our authorities, who said that they support the idea of ​​exchanging prisoners of all for all (i.e., Azov residents) and thought that this was trash, but as it turned out, no
        1. Heisenberg
          Heisenberg 21 September 2022 21: 22
          +6
          Russia, through the mediation of the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman, released ten prisoners of war. It is reported by Reuters with reference to the official representative of Saudi Arabia.

          According to the representative, among the released prisoners of war are citizens of the United States, Great Britain, Sweden, Croatia and Morocco. According to him, the plane with them arrived in Saudi Arabia.

          With a slight movement of the hand, the mercenaries turned into prisoners of war, appreciate it.
          1. Quote Lavrov
            Quote Lavrov 21 September 2022 21: 28
            +7
            There are just no words .. really ...
            Now I read Peskov’s comment regarding his son’s refusal to come to the military registration and enlistment office for mobilization and the promise to resolve the issue with the caller at a “different level”, then your post and somehow the mood completely deteriorated again
            1. Heisenberg
              Heisenberg 21 September 2022 21: 33
              +6
              The trick is that we will get goodies from the Saudis, and considerable ones. Politics, it is like that, but the lies are already really tired.
              1. Heisenberg
                Heisenberg 21 September 2022 21: 42
                +6
                Liz Truss has already confirmed that five British citizens detained in eastern Ukraine have been released.
                1. Repellent
                  Repellent 21 September 2022 21: 47
                  -21
                  Quote: Heisenberg
                  Liz Truss has already confirmed that five British citizens detained in eastern Ukraine have been released.

                  Liz Truss is a patent fool, she will not confirm that wassat
                  1. tralflot1832
                    tralflot1832 21 September 2022 22: 17
                    +2
                    Al Arabiya checked this source. Indeed, they were taken to Saudi Arabia. from us they know how to make an exchange at least stand even fall. The only thing that the Saudi thanked and the representatives of Russia and Ukraine thanked.
                    1. Chronos
                      Chronos 21 September 2022 22: 31
                      0
                      Quote: tralflot1832
                      Al Arabiya checked this source. Indeed, they were taken to Saudi Arabia. from us they know how to make an exchange at least stand even fall. The only thing that the Saudi thanked and the representatives of Russia and Ukraine thanked.

                      Here, IMHO, the key thing that the Saudi prince asked for. The exchange may have gone captured in the Kharkov region. Once again, a big hello to the command of the "West" group. If not for the "regrouping", there would be no "gesture of good will." IMHO.
              2. Quote Lavrov
                Quote Lavrov 21 September 2022 23: 13
                +3
                Not a single bun from the hands of others is worth the principles voiced in front of their own people.
          2. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 21 September 2022 21: 49
            +5
            released ten prisoners of war
            exchanged ten prisoners of war, according to a Guardian report.
          3. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 21 September 2022 21: 51
            0
            And the wiki against their names, as there was a death sentence, is worth it. Disorder. bully
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          5. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 21 September 2022 22: 13
            +6
            Quote: Heisenberg
            Russia through the mediation of Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Mohammed bin Salman

            Is this the one who was not allowed to attend the funeral of the Queen of Great Britain?
            Quote: Heisenberg
            According to the representative, among the released prisoners of war are citizens of the United States, Great Britain

            I don't understand...
            1. Alexander Galaktionov
              Alexander Galaktionov 21 September 2022 22: 35
              +1
              Kassad in the cart posted a photo of Zvizdets with that ukrofascist girl from manure, well, what else is left for them to speak at the UN and talk about torture, etc., how they come up with
            2. Quote Lavrov
              Quote Lavrov 21 September 2022 23: 15
              -1
              Although in reality everything is very clear. To our great regret, even the NWO, the mobilization of hundreds of thousands of people, has not changed anything in the principles of our interaction.
          6. Alexander Galaktionov
            Alexander Galaktionov 21 September 2022 22: 32
            0
            Yes, Kassad has three in the photo in the cart
            1. Heisenberg
              Heisenberg 21 September 2022 22: 46
              +3
              And Shariy has already posted a photo of those exchanged with Azovstal! Hooray, we'll win! Then we are surprised that they wipe their feet on us.
              1. Heisenberg
                Heisenberg 21 September 2022 22: 58
                +1
                Comrades! The bird from Azov is already at home! This is the bottom!
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter 22 September 2022 00: 13
                  +1
                  This is the bottom!
                  Reyters talks about the exchange of several Azov residents in Chernihiv.
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      3. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 21 September 2022 21: 55
        +2
        why they were released.
        They were exchanged, according to the guardian.
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 21 September 2022 21: 56
          -13
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          They were exchanged, according to the guardian

          For what - exchanged? Give a link - religion does not allow?

          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 21 September 2022 22: 13
            +2
            Russia has released US citizens Alexander Drueke, 39, and Andy Tai Ngoc Huynh, 27, in a prisoner exchange

            https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/sep/21/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-blinken-calls-moscows-referendum-attempts-a-sham-zelenskiy-to-speak-at-un?page=with:block-632b4a3c8f08f4c4bf5d784a#top-of-blog
            Something like this. Strictly speaking, the exchange was announced only in relation to the Americans, but it is unlikely that eight more were given away for this.
          2. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 21 September 2022 22: 20
            +3
            Al Arabiya newspaper, on the front page. There are no words, only mats.
            1. impostor
              impostor 21 September 2022 22: 46
              0
              Maybe it's an exchange? 200 to 200? If they exchanged - it's a good thing, the boys need to be pulled out. Zero information, why is everything secret?
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 21 September 2022 23: 14
                0
                I am also surprised that the information about obiens is always the first from the other side.
                1. impostor
                  impostor 21 September 2022 23: 21
                  -5
                  I ... (censored) ... I hope that these brutes have been taught in the time available not only to sing the Russian anthem ...
        2. TIR
          TIR 21 September 2022 23: 42
          +10
          Well, that's how I warned - people now began to look for the truth in foreign sources, including Western and Ukrainian ones. I thought this breakdown in society would happen in a month or two, but the Kremlin and the Defense Ministry did their best and it has already happened. In a month, no one will listen to our sources. Thanks for that you know who
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 21 September 2022 23: 54
            +4
            people now began to look for the truth in foreign sources
            For me, the guardian is not a foreign source. But VO-quite yes. Nevertheless, I look through everything, and even look at BBCs with a censor.
    2. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 22 September 2022 06: 47
      -5
      Quote: Heisenberg
      A little off topic. Unfortunately, those who from the very beginning were extremely skeptical that the death sentence on wild geese would be carried out turned out to be right. Once again, the words of those in power turned out to be lies.

      What, the wishes of sofa experts did not materialize? So the government is not obliged to take them into account. No one promised to shoot them.
  7. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 21 September 2022 20: 58
    +20
    Until the strategy of the NWO "half a bump" is completely changed to the total destruction of the enemy's logistics and infrastructure, no partial mobilization and the threat of a nuclear club will help. And in a couple of months, general mobilization will follow. And this will really rock the boat inside the country. For the population will ask the question - why did they drag it all this time, what did the ukrov and their bridges regret, tunnels, stations, train stations, etc.? And now the people in the gun? Either we are now seriously beating the enemy, or later no Putin's speeches will save the citizens from real disappointment.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 21 September 2022 21: 20
      -16
      Quote: TatarinSSSR
      And now the people in the gun?

      The threat of Russia - Mother, The people in the gun from time immemorial. What confuses you? In Israel, for example, the Jewish norot finally does not yelp at this. Galkin, how cute, will defend Israel and run around the Arab quarters
      1. Garris199
        Garris199 21 September 2022 21: 41
        +14
        So if the threat to the homeland, why the hell did they drag the cat by the balls for so long and calmly watched how NATO was dragging weapons in echelons, and Ukraine was mobilizing? When it was already pressed because of its own idiocy, then only they remembered about “the people in the gun”? Go, they say, grind all this cloud of weapons that you dragged along the completely untouched "logistics" of the enemy.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 21 September 2022 22: 29
          +2
          Quote: Garris199
          , why the hell did they drag the balls for so long and calmly watched how NATO was dragging weapons in echelons

          They keep dragging on. Min defense cat for Faberge, NATO echelons
        2. Hanurik
          Hanurik 21 September 2022 22: 58
          +9
          Self-isolation, self-employed, self-mobilization, further self-war. Say it straight out, those in power - all power to the Soviets! For decades, the authorities have been consistently privatizing profits and nationalizing losses. It is logical to switch to self-government, following the model of the early USSR.
      2. Simple
        Simple 21 September 2022 21: 43
        +5
        Quote: Tusv
        Galkin, how cute, will defend Israel and run around the Arab quarters


        Yeah, he will be immediately assigned to the assault group. laughing

        Allochka will build and will "serve" by giving concerts in the field.
        Everyone loves money.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 21 September 2022 22: 31
          +2
          Quote: Simple
          Allochka will build and will "serve" by giving concerts in the field.

          There is another version of events. Alla will find herself younger
      3. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 21 September 2022 22: 43
        +10
        When the threat to the Motherland is crossed, the president turns to the people and the army, announces the threat, asks everyone to unite in defense of the country and orders the army and navy to eliminate the threat - and the enemy is crushed with all the might of the army, with all available means! They don’t trade with a threat, they don’t go to joint summits, they don’t make gestures of goodwill and redeployment, they don’t draw another 200 red lines, they stop it, and if it doesn’t retreat or capitulate, it is destroyed.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 21 September 2022 22: 54
          -4
          Quote: TatarinSSSR
          When the threat to the Motherland is crossed and the red line is crossed, the president addresses the people and the army, announces the threat, asks everyone to unite in defense of the country and orders the army and navy to eliminate the threat

          On February 24.02.2022, 21.09.2022, it was. But by September XNUMX, XNUMX, the threat had increased many times over. And both times the President's address to the People. I repeat, what is the hysteria about? Cons is not the answer
          1. Repellent
            Repellent 21 September 2022 23: 09
            -7
            Quote: Tusv
            I repeat, what is the hysteria about?

            She's always hysterical... permanent yes
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 21 September 2022 23: 38
              -2
              Quote: Repellent
              always hysterical... permanent

              One tablet is enough to not yelp
          2. TatarinSSSR
            TatarinSSSR 22 September 2022 00: 32
            +7
            Asking about hysteria when there is none is not the answer. The threat was up to 24. Pensioners in the General Staff of the Moscow Region underestimated it. They themselves believed in the lulling nonsense from the amusingly ostentatious exercises and exhibitions of the military-industrial complex. They imagined themselves to be new Americans and decided to play "Desert Storm". They didn’t count, they didn’t think over, they didn’t anilize. As a result, 7 months everything went according to plan. And it came to fleeing in retreat and partial mobilization. It turns out that NATO and the US are supplying ukrov with intelligence and weapons. How. The General Staff is in shock. Well, somehow he did not expect this ... This is not according to the rules. We d bridges and echelons, did not touch the thermal power plant, but they ... Not in the Soviet way. Not in an owl way. As in the film one beautiful - "they violate." And here is the result - as they say, he went out to drive away the bully, but something went wrong. With a black eye and knocked out teeth, I trudge home for an ax ... Now also those whom they promised to judge and not change - mercenaries from the West, have been changed. I kiss the crowd. What has changed is good! They returned theirs. But why did every bureaucrat and politician of Russia have to harp that all these mercenaries would face severe punishment and judgment! No exchange! Again, pensioners in the Ministry of Defense and special services do not understand that they themselves are giving the enemy an opportunity to win information about the Russian bureaucratic word - he gave the word - he took the word. We are completely losing the information war because of backward and obsolete personnel.
            1. 1939_1940
              1939_1940 22 September 2022 00: 46
              +2
              Military correspondents report that the commanders of Azov are also free .. But Medvedchuk is in Russia ..
    2. Alexander Antonov_2
      Alexander Antonov_2 21 September 2022 23: 19
      +2
      Russia pays Ukrainians for gas transit, what else can be said here.
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    1. Viktor Vladimirovich
      Viktor Vladimirovich 21 September 2022 21: 42
      -3
      Was he in the Military Commissariat himself?
      You're smart.
      I've been rejected three times already.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 21 September 2022 22: 17
        -2
        Quote: Viktor Vladimirovich
        Was he in the Military Commissariat himself?
        You're smart.
        I've been rejected three times already.

        He doesn't pretend, he works. Check out his comments.
      2. Vitaly Sorokin
        Vitaly Sorokin 22 September 2022 08: 36
        +1
        Are you proud of it??? or so weak health?
  9. Clear
    Clear 21 September 2022 21: 43
    -3
    Military correspondents report the enemy has entered the village of Drobyshevo near Krasny Liman

    And, can you at least some kind of official confirmation link?
  10. Dartanyan
    Dartanyan 21 September 2022 21: 44
    -15
    These are the last flutterings of the pig ...
  11. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 21 September 2022 22: 01
    +2
    What does the Russian command think about this?
    Personally, at this stage of mobilization, from the position of a private, I can’t influence such nonsense in any way ...
  12. Pharmacist
    Pharmacist 21 September 2022 22: 04
    +2
    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: TatarinSSSR
    And now the people in the gun?

    The threat of Russia - Mother, The people in the gun from time immemorial. What confuses you? In Israel, for example, the Jewish norot finally does not yelp at this. Galkin, how cute, will defend Israel and run around the Arab quarters

    Not very relevant, but since it came up ... No matter how hard I tried to imagine Galkin running around the Gaza Strip with a machine gun, he could not. One who is born to crawl cannot fly...
    1. Frank Muller
      Frank Muller 22 September 2022 00: 37
      -1
      No, but cho: if "Pugachev" is put as a "performer" for the graves of opponents of the regime, then I think he will cope. Shoot unarmed - talent is not needed. And they certainly won’t see the newly-minted Jewish haver on the front line, you have to fight there and you can kill yourself.
  13. shark507
    shark507 21 September 2022 22: 21
    -5
    Quote: Pytnik
    Have you seen the lines at the Finnish border? and tickets to Turkey sold out like in the morning in Moscow ....

    Well, they will hand these stupid summons at passport control ...
  14. Andrey A
    Andrey A 21 September 2022 22: 45
    -3
    Ukrainians report a blow to the dam of the Pechenegsky reservoir, if this is true, then the level of the Seversky Donets may rise significantly and the Armed Forces of Ukraine may have serious problems ...
    1. Sergei V
      Sergei V 21 September 2022 23: 04
      -2
      It looks like a troll, interrupting new news with old ones.
      1. Andrey A
        Andrey A 22 September 2022 21: 32
        0
        Well, I'm not a Ukrainian troll ... Then, I write the obvious ...
  15. Hadji Murat
    Hadji Murat 21 September 2022 23: 56
    +4
    The enemy has been attacking for three weeks, ours cannot assemble defenses? Someone to pull up from the reserve?
  16. NightmareIvanych
    NightmareIvanych 22 September 2022 00: 02
    +9
    I read comments ..... about the liberated mercenaries ... I have no words .. it’s a shame to die for such power! No less ashamed than for the Ukrainian. Considering how our prisoners were tortured there ... they didn’t just spit on the memory and graves of the dead ... it’s something worse ... Uryakly and guards can go on foot erotic with their minuses ... Campaign, not far off "the second shot from Aurora"....Otherwise, nothing will change.
    1. 1939_1940
      1939_1940 22 September 2022 00: 47
      0
      Kalina and Volyn are also free .. Ukrainians are posting their photos with might and main ..
  17. Warrior MorePhoto
    Warrior MorePhoto 22 September 2022 00: 50
    +3
    Quote from Gromit
    And I'll cheer you up. Remember the British mercenaries who were sentenced to death in the DNR? Today, Mrs. Truss sincerely thanked Mr. Volodymyr and Saudi Arabia for their help in their return. Citizens of the United States, Sweden, Croatia and Morocco have also been released.

    And what a surprise, I don’t see this wonderful news on VO.


    I will add that all the Azov commanders were also given out ... there are simply no words
  18. Chronos
    Chronos 22 September 2022 00: 52
    +2
    In exchange. It's not even bad that the Azov people were released. And that they are silent. People will not go to ukroTG channels, conditional Rybari and night vision devices do not even publish the most pleasant news. But the fact that the authorities are simply silent is a disaster on the information front. Comparable to Balakleya. And it was possible to inflate the scandal that Ukraine is changing only the Natsiks. And it was also possible not to delay, but to quickly conduct a trial against the Azov people. And let them at least go to the exchange with a sentence. This is sad, because there is no other government anyway, but let's start rocking the boat - there will be a dill garrison in the Kremlin.
    1. Ludoman
      Ludoman 22 September 2022 00: 59
      +7
      In exchange. It's not even bad that the Azov people were released. And that they are silent. People will not go to ukroTG channels, conditional Rybari and night vision devices do not even publish the most pleasant news. But the fact that the authorities are simply silent is a disaster on the information front. Comparable to Balakleya. And it was possible to inflate the scandal that Ukraine is changing only the Natsiks. And it was also possible not to delay, but to quickly conduct a trial against the Azov people. And let them at least go to the exchange with a sentence.

      And you could just shoot off their heads and that's all, and there would be no problems. All of Russia was demoralized over these 7 months by Putin's bastards, that tv ** r that it lobbies should just be torn to pieces.
      This is sad, because there is no other government anyway, but let's start rocking the boat - there will be a dill garrison in the Kremlin.

      When we break Ukraine and return, we will remember everything, the creatures will regret that we did not die.
  19. Chronos
    Chronos 22 September 2022 01: 07
    +12
    And further. Such a negative from the exchange is also because Kalyn-Volyn is greeted there as heroes, and those for whom they were exchanged flew to Chkalovskoye as poor relatives. And this is another defeat on the information front.
    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 22 September 2022 01: 14
      -4
      You can not show faces and disclose the data of CBO participants soldier
      1. Administrator
        Administrator 22 September 2022 05: 20
        +6
        Have you ever thought that their faces and ALL data have ALREADY been revealed by the enemy? Or are there even more terrible enemies who cannot get this data from ukrov? Something tells me that our special services will simply treat the former captives as potentially "compromised" for some time, so there is no need for extra hype around.
      2. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 22 September 2022 08: 39
        +1
        That is, they have never seen their faces in dill dill? Are you kidding?!
        1. Santa Fe
          Santa Fe 22 September 2022 09: 10
          +2
          That is, in dill, dill, their faces never

          This is for another reason, and here dill

          Returning fighters do not want to show their faces, to spread about who they are and where they were
          you look at its quality

          Always wearing masks

          This is how in our city they met the guys who fulfilled their duty in the NWO zone
    2. Hadji Murat
      Hadji Murat 22 September 2022 01: 26
      -1
      They promised a report today on our you, let's look at its quality
  20. Hadji Murat
    Hadji Murat 22 September 2022 01: 26
    +4
    No reserves at all? We have sergeants and junior officers driving in crowds of good cars around Vladivostok, are we afraid of Japanese attacks here?
  21. Kotisha
    Kotisha 22 September 2022 02: 10
    +3
    Here we waited, here we looked at what is called and started! They just started to create some kind of game (I'm talking about the exchange of fighting dill!)! With every iron, people are pissing in their ears about the fight against the Nazis and other wickedness! And in the end, and in the end, this wickedness will now broadcast from each microwave how much he slaughtered and killed our boys, and now he is a hero liberated here!

    PS It seems to me alone that someone in our miracle leadership is trying without hesitation to ...... to merge this war and the leadership too ???
  22. VasyaRules
    VasyaRules 22 September 2022 02: 20
    +3
    And after such exchanges, should I trust the authorities? This is a betrayal! All those tortured and killed by their hands. Okay, just the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but Azov! It just doesn’t fit in my head and I don’t have to say that everyone knows and has calculated everything. Let me just remind you that Azov has been recognized as a terrorist organization, that is, we are conducting such negotiations?
  23. Bulgarian
    Bulgarian 22 September 2022 02: 41
    -4
    Article without signature. Who is the author. Or stuffing on the fan became a VO chip
  24. Vovavvs
    Vovavvs 22 September 2022 02: 50
    +3
    Looks like Khana is coming to our Butu & Co. And not only in America. And soon we will see American Willan and Greiner free. And why did the people think that it was an accident when, in response to mocking Israel, who extradited Loginov to the States, Issachar was immediately released in Russia, and the laughing Taira sent greetings from Kyiv in response to the threats of citizen Pushilin to deal with those who released the killer of the Donetsk people .. And Yeltsin's condemnations in a similar situation began to look somehow different. Yes, and the same comrade Stalin who refused to change his son (not even godfather) during the war
  25. elbrus
    elbrus 22 September 2022 03: 18
    -2
    I hope our liberated will not fall under the new article "voluntarily surrendered to captivity"? if the exchange was for all the rest of ours, it would be understandable. but most likely it is not. how many "ordinary" soldiers instead of Medvedchuk could be released? How many more are in captivity?
  26. Stinging Nettle
    Stinging Nettle 22 September 2022 04: 51
    -4
    [quote=bayard][quote=heisenberg]
    There will be a court. And the mercenaries were most likely exchanged for someone. Behind the scenes.
    . [/ Quote]
    This is speculation.
    Not even someone tells you fairy tales, but you compose fairy tales for yourself.
  27. Stinging Nettle
    Stinging Nettle 22 September 2022 04: 52
    -1
    Quote from VasyaRules
    And after such exchanges, should I trust the authorities? This is a betrayal! All those tortured and killed by their hands. Okay, just the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but Azov! It just doesn’t fit in my head and I don’t have to say that everyone knows and has calculated everything. Let me just remind you that Azov has been recognized as a terrorist organization, that is, we are conducting such negotiations?

    The military from the DPR write. that the APU committed atrocities in the same way.
  28. mortido
    mortido 22 September 2022 05: 12
    +5
    https://t.me/milinfolive
    Ukraine also received, as a result of the exchange, Azov commanders Denis Prokopenko, Svyatoslav Palamar and a marine commander from Sergei Volynsky.
    No comment.
    Here they are! "Surprises" from the Vlasovites in the Kremlin! And you still have to fight and die for them, who at any moment can betray, there are already many examples of this, including this shameful one ... It just doesn’t fit in my head how such treacherous exchanges can be arranged. Traders they are traders ...
    1. Petr_Koldunov
      Petr_Koldunov 22 September 2022 09: 22
      +1
      Quote: mortido
      It just doesn’t fit in my head how you can arrange such treacherous exchanges.

      What are you! In response, we got the whole Medvedchuk in exchange! And don't care that he is a) not a combatant, but a civilian, b) a citizen of another country, c) Putin's godfather ... all this does not matter. The main thing is that 200 rabid Nazi war criminals and terrorist mercenaries were given away for godfather. (True, the Nazi Kyiv authorities threw another 87 of our prisoners to him from the master's shoulder)
  29. Two
    Two 22 September 2022 07: 32
    -2
    hi They put pressure on the sly. Now, in a month and a half, the mobilized will pull themselves up, and then a fracture will come.
  30. Uprun
    Uprun 22 September 2022 07: 55
    +2
    It seems that our front began to crumble ....
  31. huntsman650
    huntsman650 22 September 2022 08: 34
    +2
    The opinion of the people has been exactly for a long time, they will buzz for a couple of days in social networks and calm down. About RK "Moscow" has already been forgotten. Marshal somehow depressed, or it seemed to me? In general, the commanders crap. The realities of our Armed Forces surfaced, not very rosy, it came to pass.
  32. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 22 September 2022 09: 18
    +1
    It that, has appeared suddenly and suddenly? It seems like two weeks have already passed since the Kharkov breakthrough ... In two weeks, you can get very strong. And now it turns out "an additional danger has arisen" ...
  33. Sergey Kuzmin
    Sergey Kuzmin 22 September 2022 10: 37
    +1
    Well, where is the Russian "technical superiority" advertised by "hat-throwers" in artillery, aviation and other things ?! Why are they not using, for example, TU-95 strategic bombers, which, without even flying into the territory controlled by the Ukronazis, could carry out live rocket firing at concentrations of enemy forces?! What would significantly help the Russian and allied troops stationed in this area.
    According to WarGonzo military correspondents, about half of the territory of Drobyshevo is under the control of Ukrainian troops. It is quite understandable that without a decisive counterattack in this and other directions, the enemy will continue his advance in those territories that he had previously lost. According to military correspondents, there are clearly not enough forces to deter enemy attacks in the Krasny Liman area.
  34. ivan2022
    ivan2022 25 September 2022 18: 18
    0
    Quote: mortido
    And you still have to fight and die for them, who at any moment can betray, there are already many examples of this, including this shameful one ... It just doesn’t fit in my head how such treacherous exchanges can be arranged. Traders they are traders ...

    And after all, which is typical, if elections are made even today, all the same ones will go back to where they were. And what will be the conclusion?
    Is it better to be a traitor or just a vegetable?