The commander of the “Vostok” battalion of the NM DPR spoke about the crew of the tank of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with welded hatches

Currently, a difficult situation remains in the Kherson region, as Ukrainian formations are trying to push Russian and allied forces across the Dnieper River. For the sake of this goal, Kyiv is ready for any sacrifice. Vostok commander Alexander Khodakovsky writes about this in his Telegram channel.

Khodakovsky gives as an example of the attitude of the Armed Forces of Ukraine towards his soldiers one very interesting history. The other day, the Russian military spotted an enemy tank and were about to destroy it. But the tank lifted the barrel up and began to rotate the turret, which could mean the desire of the crew to surrender. Unlike the Ukrainian military, Russian soldiers are humane people. If the opponent surrenders, he will not be killed.

According to battalion commander Khodakovsky, the fighters got close to tank and discovered an amazing and terrible picture: all the hatches on the tank were welded. The crew of the combat vehicle was simply walled up, like in a tin can. He was sent to the positions of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the NM of the DPR - certain death, so that the tankers could not even get out and leave the car if the tank was knocked down.

Photo and video evidence has not yet been submitted.

This sparked a lot of discussion online.

Comments

[Nexcom]

Well, if this is true, then this is even worse than suicide bombers chained to machine-gun stationary points.

[Myths]

After this, their path is not captured, but into the ranks of those who destroy Nazism. Not everyone can do the right thing in such a situation and still survive.

[Evil 55]

Along the way, the author of this story is not aware that the combat vehicle has another hatch in the bottom of the tank ..

[SARMAT123]

He, too, gets busted. I have heard this from other sources.

[Lionnvrsk]

discovered an amazing and terrible picture: all the hatches on the tank were welded.

Something I can’t believe at all, it looks like a folk epic, such as about a crucified boy, grandfather Taras with a rifle against a tank, about a leg run over by a tank, a plane shot down by a can of cucumbers, a Kyiv ghost, and so on.
By the way, there is another continuation, that while our compassionate warriors were waiting for the cutter to be brought, they threw cold water through the barrel of a cigarette and water.

[Shurik70]

I got interested, found a couple more messages about this, all in the beginning of July.
Either old news, or the one who did it - returned from the hospital.

[Mazunga]

YES YES YES I also read about this tank))) and then they got out of the tank with their barrels up and their heads turned round))) and the hatches were welded tightly not to eat or take a shit

[stankow]

Not a tanker, but he cooked for heavy vehicles. Difficult and not fast business. Bring a welding machine, climb, electrode, mask, mass. Then crawl under the bottom, put the seam up. And who will hold back the crew to rush off, anyway into battle. What, the beast commander will shoot a javelin from behind? Bikes are everything.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Evil 55

Along the way, the author of this story is not aware that the combat vehicle has another hatch in the bottom of the tank ..

Yeah. And this hatch, in your opinion, is completely plastic and is not cooked by welding.

[bulvas]

Quote: Evil 55

Along the way, the author of this story is not aware that the combat vehicle has another hatch in the bottom of the tank ..

Quote: Author

The soldiers got close to the tank and found an amazing and terrible picture: all hatches on the tank were brewed.

Where in the article does it say that only the upper hatches are welded?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: bulvas

Where in the article does it say that only the upper hatches are welded?

The fact of the matter is that nowhere, but the comrade decided to sting the author and enlighten in detail-

Quote: Angry 55

Along the way, the author of this story is not aware that the combat vehicle has another hatch in the bottom of the tank

[militarist63]

The fact of the matter is that nowhere, but the comrade decided to sting the author and enlighten in detail-

Well, yes. Only the question arises what is the practical knowledge of this "enlightener" himself??!

[Berkut752]

You think you are the only smart one, and there are narrow-minded people around .......

[CTABEP]

People who believe in a tank with welded hatches are definitely not a great mind. Crucified Boy #2.

[militarist63]

Along the way, the author of this story is not aware that the combat vehicle has another hatch in the bottom of the tank ..

And you yourself are otkel and what do you know about this very "hatch in the bottom of the tank", called the emergency exit hatch, and what is your practice of using it ?!
To begin with, if all the individual crew hatches were indeed welded, I deeply doubt that the escape hatch was left unattended! But even if this is so, and the "commanders" forgot about him or did not know, being losers in BTT equipment ...., I would recommend that you try to get from the T-64 cockpit (which is the MBT in the Armed Forces of Ukraine) to the control department, where and this hatch is located. You know, a very problematic process! To do this, you need to turn the turret with the barrel back and dismantle two trays from the conveyor of the loading mechanism ... and then squeeze through ..., because it is very crowded there! Accordingly, you will succeed in all this only for a long time standing still, and not in motion ... which will attract the attention of either your own or not your own ... and you may have problems even before you start squeezing into the emergency exit ... The access of the gunner and the commander to this hatch in subsequent samples of the Soviet tank industry was no better. In fact, without any problems, the emergency exit hatch there has access, perhaps, to the driver, behind whose coccyx this hatch is located. Here in old tanks, for example in the T-62, there, yeah, it’s spacious there ... and please everything to the spare hatch ... "eject"!
But there is another nuance, even when you (all crew members) got to this hatch and opened it ... and what is there? And there, when you are on a hard surface - pity the exit, and when on loose soil - as Kanevsky says, this is a completely different story! At the same time, there are no sapper shovels among the accessories of tankers! Here, perhaps, the lid of the drinking tank (there is one in the tank) in the hands and will be scooped up!

[Yatva]

And you think the scumbags don't know this!???...

[Skif]

And the hatch in the bottom is wooden? It can also be boiled.

[invisible_man]

Along the way, the sensual, poetic nature of Khodakovsky could not withstand the stress loads.
PS Who stole 2000 points from my rating yesterday? There were practically no cons. How not ashamed?

[Frost]

Quote from invisible_man

Along the way, the sensual, poetic nature of Khodakovsky could not withstand the stress loads.

There is also a lower evacuation hatch on the bottom of the tank. It looks like it was also brewed.
"In the story about the Ukrainian tank with welded hatches, a few more details are missing, namely: machine gunners chained with a chain, Negro mercenaries under drugs who are not stopped even by a bullet in the head and the grandfather, who fell from a hunting rifle into the barrel of the Leopard and followed this detonation."
Another story from Colonel Khodarenko:

[Zoer]

Quote: Hoarfrost

There is also a lower evacuation hatch on the bottom of the tank. It looks like it was also brewed.

And what are the difficulties in this?

[sifgame]

Well, there was a dryer chained to a post at the very beginning of the operation, there are also enough blacks, they are all under drugs, what else can blacks be on, forgive me my intolerance, instead of my grandfather there was a grandmother who shot down the enemy’s micro-aviation with jars of pickles))).

[runway-1]

The news is very dubious, it looks a lot like the so-called. fake. And it’s no longer funny to talk about the military “analysts” Khodaryonok, Barants and even Sivkov.
But what a wave of touchingly patriotic comments, and the trolls just have a feast ...

[gurzuf]

Ha! The balls were stolen and the sensual nature voted. Can't handle the stress?

[invisible_man]

I, unlike some, do not see welded hatches on tanks. And detachments of SS men who are driving our "Ukrainian brothers" into battle.

[gurzuf]

And what about the "welded hatches" today to the stolen balls yesterday?

[Paladin]

Can't handle the stress?

I should have added - This is IN, baby! You are not the first and you are not the last.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote from invisible_man

Who stole 2000 points from my rating yesterday? There were practically no cons. How not ashamed?

What is the value of these points for you? Do you sho...exchange them for cryptocurrency?

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

We may still have illusions about how the Kyiv junta treats its people.

[Rustic]

We may still have illusions about how the Kyiv junta treats its people.

And the people there are no better. It would not be easy to pass all these brewers with gooses, but no, they sat and waited at first, and then they also went to look for those who would take them prisoner and free them. Here are lovers of freebies, they don’t want to do anything even for themselves.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

If they had crushed the brewers with caterpillars, they would have easily burned out in the tank there, otherwise they surrendered and handed over the equipment to ours.

[Rustic]

and so they surrendered and handed over the equipment to ours.

So I say. And in prison for dinner, dumplings are free, so don't give up. And let others fight the Nazis for them. And there are 100% of the total population of such parasites. The only question is, why do we need these parasites? Do we already eat everything from the belly for free, and don’t know where to put the extra products? So they have to plow their own to eat, and these parasites will be fed for free?

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

I am sure that they will still fight together with ours against the ukrofascists, and this is their first sure step.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Nexcom

Well, if this is true, then this is even worse than suicide bombers chained to machine-gun stationary points.

Most likely fairy tales.

[4ekist]

lis-ik .... Most likely fairy tales.

Perhaps fairy tales about the "crucified boy" we have already heard. Although their Bandera methods are conducive to various inhuman acts.

[Maz]

The proto-noiseors have completely lost the coast,

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nexcom

Well, if this is true, then this is even worse than suicide bombers chained to machine-gun stationary points.

And this is not the first time, it has happened before.

[lis-ik]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Nexcom

Well, if this is true, then this is even worse than suicide bombers chained to machine-gun stationary points.

And this is not the first time, it has happened before.

It turns out interesting, you are welded in a tank with a full load of ammunition, you sincerely thank the "welders" and go to fight, instead of dealing with them ... somehow strange. And the evacuation hatch was welded too?

[28st region]

I would like to see a photo of the tank, welded hatches and a conversation with the crew.

[Invoce]

All this has happened before. Finnish and Japanese soldiers chained to the walls of pillboxes... Natural Nazism...

[Nexcom]

These figures then did not think of welding the hatches of their tanks. True, they thought of hanging soldiers with explosives and sending them to tanks (the Japanese).
Although the Armed Forces of Ukraine have also chained their soldiers to the poles. There was a photo with a chained dead machine gunner of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Jackyun]

The Japanese went to the tanks deliberately and voluntarily, however, like the Red Army men, they threw grenades under the tanks. Here is a completely different story.

[SARANCHA1976]

Surprise .. Ukrainians were also Red Army soldiers

[saigon]

Comrade signalman (if you judge by the emblem), the legs of those chained to machine guns come from the First World War.
In the Austrian army in the German regiments during the retreat, the volunteers ASKED to chain themselves to machine guns in order to cover the withdrawal of the comrades (the translation of the comrade is not entirely correct and correct).
That's all that is worth saying about chained to machine guns.
But welded hatches are already strange on the verge of idiocy.
With hatches not welded, the crew fired a little and fled, and so immediately captured.
Well, who is the cretin in this case?

[Nexcom]

In the Austrian army in the German regiments during the retreat, the volunteers ASKED to chain themselves to machine guns in order to cover the withdrawal of the comrades (the translation of the comrade is not entirely correct and correct).

And without a chain, well, wasn’t it covered in any way? They voluntarily remained to cover. From your words. Why chain volunteers who voluntarily remained to cover? Strange information is obtained.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: Nexcom

And without a chain, well, wasn’t it covered in any way?

Well, look.
Now you and I are standing here so beautiful, they say, "come, we will cover."
But how the enemy approached - you never know what to think, I'm not sure for myself.
It can be assumed that this is a kind of "chain us so as not to be cowardly."

[Nexcom]

Basically sounds like a reasonable explanation.
Only we did not switch to You.

[Horon]

And with pants full of dung, a chained machine gunner won't run away?
If he runs unchained, then chained he will be just as effective with his shooting in the "anywhere" direction!

[stankow]

And also symbolism - go away, I will not leave the position!

[saigon]

Nerves, you know, fears to falter, and so on, in a word, psychology.
And if the topic is interesting, you can read Denikin's memoirs.

[Monster_Fat]

There are always many different stories going around at the front, as well as fairy tales. To believe everything, and from the category: "someone out there, told" - well, that's it.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Invoce

Finnish and Japanese soldiers chained to the walls of pillboxes...

The Japanese were imprisoned in the pillbox, and the doors were concreted.

[SKVichyakow]

This is something new, from the realm of fantasy. Although they were already chained to the poles. Yes!. Such offspring should only be destroyed, they are no longer human.

[Plate]

What is it for? Near Kharkov, they recently had successful operations, it is unlikely that the morale fell so quickly to such levels that the idea of ​​​​brewing hatches arose.

[tralflot1832]

Khodakovsky is at war with the East elsewhere.

[alexey sidykin]

Quote: tralflot1832

Khodakovsky is at war with the East elsewhere.

And when this incident happened, he was in Mariupol at all ...

[Andobor]

Quote: Plate

They recently had successful actions near Kharkov,

Near Kharkov, they had an 8-fold numerical superiority, and the superiority of losses was even greater, morale and slept - that's why it was.

[skeptick2]

Quote: Andobor

that's why it

How is this why? What else to say if there is nothing to say? This is where such nonsense comes into play. By the way, if Khodakovsky really disperses this dregs, then this does not do him credit. I considered him a more adequate person.

[Plate]

Quote: Andobor

Near Kharkov, they had an 8-fold numerical superiority, and the superiority of losses was even greater

Such details were not very interested even in our jingoistic patriots, let alone the Ukrainian ones. Judging by Zelensky’s demands, they generally imagined that they didn’t take the region, using overwhelming numerical superiority and at the same time suffering much greater losses compared to the enemy, but, I don’t know, they captured half of the Earth, defeating a couple of armies at the level of the US Armed Forces along the way nothing to do.

[dmi.pris1]

I can still believe if they have confusion and vacillation in the army. In fact, they are highly motivated. As a punishment for something? There are other methods. However, there are idiots and bastards everywhere

[pharmacist]

Let's say it's true. Well, how did it help, did you still give up?

[Hitriy Zhuk]

And how many missed?
After all, while they are driving, you’ll understand, especially from afar, let’s say from a helicopter.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Well, I don't believe this! We have to wait for confirmation. It's very wild and not effective in the end ...

[Nexcom]

Yes, it turns out a disposable tank and crew. For one fight. Well, if you're lucky and the tank comes back - what, cut off welding with a grinder ?? Well, the ammunition must be loaded to replace the spent one. And then before a new fight, re-brew ??
And yet, was the lower hatch welded too? If not, then what's the point of brewing the upper ones - the tankers will run away through the lower one. In general, some kind of heresy turns out ....

[garrett]

Finally a voice of reason. Why drag these fantasies to the site at all?

[coinsam]

absolutely true.
It's a shame for such fabrications.

[alexey sidykin]

Yes, it was not brewed, but seized by welding. This is quite enough. And it was a little different and not at Khodrkovsky's, he was then in Mariupol.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Do you think it's hard to make a potholder? From the outside it is knocked off with a chisel "on time" But you can't open it from the inside, you won't have enough strength. Nobody says that the hatch was welded round. Enough to grab half a centimeter on both sides

[region58]

Quote: Nexcom

disposable tank and crew

I would like to look at these "welders" if the crew does not agree (and he will be against it anyway), and the tank is completely ready for battle. They will either have to be scraped off the tracks, or, after a blank shot, sent to the hospital with a shell shock ... Bust.

[alexey sidykin]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

Well, I don't believe this! We have to wait for confirmation. It's very wild and not effective in the end ...

What evidence is there if it was still in the spring.

[Rusik.S]

And after the battle, did they boil it back? Some kind of nonsense

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

If you even grab the hatch a little by welding, you can’t open it with your hands, and after the battle you can cut the jumper with a grinder.

Maybe the facts of abandoning equipment have become more frequent in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, so one of the dill commanders came up with such a way to deal with this.

If Khodakovsky had not written about this, he would never have believed it.

Although he himself may not have been reported that way.

[Paladin]

There may be another option, so that the enemy does not take prisoner on the battlefield. The enemy with grinders does not run around the fields. In general, with the degree of opupeniya, which is now present in second-hand, I will not be surprised at anything. In order to understand them, you need to get yourself into full fat.

[Nexcom]

Well, then you can concrete the manhole at all - the enemy will get the fic and you won’t drop the grenade from the drone. it is necessary for the ukpops to throw an idea - suddenly they really start to concrete - that's enough mind.

[Paladin]

Better than the whole roof. Then if in response they are thrown from a marauded javelin, there will be a chance)))

[Nexcom]

why is it trifling - pour the formwork along the perimeter of the tower and the VBC. type and additional protection will be.

PS and a magnetic mine will not stick ... yeah. the main thing is that the suspension does not disperse from the additional mass

[AvesevA]

Why didn't the soldiers take the video? Or did they not take off how they were pulled out?

[gurzuf]

And what prevents to brew and show what they say is there?

[valentine light]

Well, they didn’t shoot a video, but they should have.
The further fate of these tankers is interesting.

[SARANCHA1976]

And how is it that some loud "fairy tales" always fail to shoot

[Alexga]

Yah! It seems to me that this is from the realm of fantasy. It’s easier for the crew to destroy those who welded their hatches.

[Grandfather Mozai]

It is interesting how the Ukrainians welded the lower hatch, the crew would have suffocated from welding, at least questions arise, ours could have filmed this resonant case on video, but it’s hard to believe.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

If the hatch is really welded, then they don’t do it dead, but they grab it a little with welding and that’s all, so that they don’t open it from the inside.

It makes no sense to boil it in a circle.

If it was not Khodakovsky who wrote it, but someone else, he would not have believed it.

Maybe just an isolated case, so their dill was punished.

Here, on Russian spring in YouTube, videos appeared with the defeat of some kind of Ukrainian offensive, the equipment looks intact, the hatches are covered, it seems that many just ran away. Now this is how they deal with it.

Some of our hatches also need to be welded, they supplied a bunch of equipment and ammunition to the dill, shameful ones.

You can’t evacuate and there is a danger of the enemy capturing equipment - burn everything you can and only then move away!

[Grandfather Mozai]

I agree about the abandoned equipment, it’s a shame, most likely those who departed did not have clear instructions or time on this matter, but, in the General Staff, they don’t know these coordinates, where our equipment is, we distribute gifts to dill .. On the hatch, I repeat, the case is resonant, it was necessary to shoot on video, let the whole world see with whom Russia is at war. And tying people to poles for public flogging, is that normal?

[Rustic]

On the hatch, I repeat, the case is resonant, it was necessary to shoot on video, let the whole world see with whom Russia is fighting. And tying people to poles for public flogging, is that normal?

You are contradicting yourself. Well, they filmed how the Nazis lynch people. Has anyone in the world noticed this? The fascist West, as they say, at least piss in the eye ... And whoever would have seen, they have no illusions about the Anglo-Saxon cannibals and their Bandera henchmen for a long time.

[igorka357]

If this is a marauder who profits from the mountain of strangers, then this is not normal, this is correct!

[alexey sidykin]

There was someone who described, of course, I don’t remember because it was back in the spring. But Khodakovsky is unlikely, because he was then in Mariupol, and it was either in the Donetsk or in the Luhansk direction.

[gurzuf]

Obviously, you would not have guessed how to weld the lower hatch so that the crew would not suffocate. The sequence of sealing hatches is a very complex logical exercise.

[navigator777]

And they didn’t find machine gunners in bunkers, chained with handcuffs?

[Kesha1980]

The Russian military found a dead soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who was chained to a pole. A used grenade launcher was found near the body. Obviously, the Ukrainian military was left to die - he had only one shot, his comrades did not give him small arms.

Archive SVO.
By the way, Debaltseve is 14 years old - a tank with welded hatches was present, presumably. Maybe a tale. But, https://yandex.ru/video/touch/preview/2931721171555241236

[Nexcom]

That's it, I wrote above about this case and wrote that the SVUshniki had already chained their own.

[valentine light]

This is a well-known practice of the Wehrmacht and Finnish units from 1943 to 1945.

[yuriy55]

Put all these leaders and Nazis in an old barge, weld hatches and flood in the center of the Black Sea ... Anyway, there is hydrogen sulfide below 250 meters - the environment will not suffer ...

[Emergency]

If there are photo and video facts, then this is a bomb! Although what else to expect from the Bandera bastards and their overseas masters? Traditions have "civilized" such. Maybe Scholz heard from his grandfather. But if there are no photos and videos, then these are just conversations that will be brushed aside.

[alexey sidykin]

This is a bomb from spring ago...

[Commodore Arctic]

Khokhlo-Kamikaze - great! Just a great use of people!

[Uprun]

I’m skeptical about this news ..... imagine the situation ...., landing the crew in the tank, they say to the heroes ...., you sit quietly, we’ll weld the hatches now ....., it’s not a tricky thing, but also not five minutes ... If there is 1 crew ... this is one thing .... 3 hatches ... but to weld the company .... At the same time, you first need to weld the landing hatch .... on the bottom of all tanks. ..., and upon return to meet with the Bulgarians ....
During the war, many soldier tales are born .... This is purely my personal opinion ....

[Prometey]

Either drunk people were thrown there, or shell-shocked. But it is unlikely that they would be waiting there for the hatches to be welded.

[valentine light]

You would also climb under the barrel and wait until they brew.
Moreover, they would be brewing and could not tell them.

[coinsam]

Yes, a journalistic fiction, that's what it is.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

let's say the crew made a fine. Either they are shot, or they let them die with honor. I understand that you t 34 revised how the brave tankers on the tank smash everyone and run away, but then you twitch and stupidly slap. And also a family to boot. Therefore, you will sit like a little one while they pack you in a tank.

[SARANCHA1976]

Campaign you have seen enough. That's bullshit..

[gromit]

They mixed native vodka with captured drugs and a Ukrainian tank rushed at them, swinging its barrel and twisting its turret with a welded hatch.

[valentine light]

They drink heavily and strongly, "vodka", vodka, moonshine + American military "nonsense" - that's how the voivode's coming out was born to create a "super tank" without sparing his tankers.

[Negruz]

Little Russians on both sides of the front are such "storytellers" ...
Only in such an environment could Gogol and Bulgakov appear...

[Prometey]

Either this is true, or frank f .... sh. No other is given.

[SARANCHA1976]

What a deep thought or yes or no heh

[Nephilim]

The commander of the “Vostok” battalion of the NM DPR spoke about the crew of the tank of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with welded hatches

(Delirium oneiroideum) (from Greek oneiros - sleep, dream). Delirium, characterized by dreamy stage hallucinations with fantastic content, in which patients are passively present or are active participants in a number of rapidly changing, often unrelated events: wars, bombings, natural disasters, world cataclysms. It occurs most often in drug addiction (hashish, opium, etc.), as well as in schizophrenia (with catatonic stupor).

Source: Psychiatric Encyclopedic Dictionary. K. MAUP 2003

[Nephilim]

Okay minus, this is a clinical case. But the administration of the site thinks about the reputation of the resource by publishing such a delirium, which you will not find on ukrosites? Or is clickbait business so bad that all means are good?

[gromit]

Normal military propaganda.
Capture a tank with a welded hatch, inside which two people eat up the third and a crucified boy is nailed to the armor.
The enemy must be dehumanized.
Agree, all the same, there is doubt inside - "Well, they can't lie like that, probably something is behind this!"
They can.
And Ukrainians can and Russians can.

[SARANCHA1976]

Rather, even the people must be dehumanized in order to become an enemy

[Foul skeptic]

Forum users, are you seriously discussing this tale of the Vienna Woods?

[valentine light]

You don’t know the banderlogs of the Ukrainians, it’s just that they will become.
“If you can’t eat, they will all bite apples,” only to do harm.

[IVZ]

The welded commander's hatch - the tank is no longer a tenant, even if you do not take into account the moral and psychological state of the crew. If this is true, then most likely a method of executing deserters who have fallen.

[Uprun]

The life of three warriors for the outskirts means nothing compared to expensive equipment, which is already in a piece version ... it’s easier to waste ...

[belost79]

Oh God, what nonsense ... I immediately remembered a moment from "The Good Soldier Schweik". Where while the soldiers were dying in the trenches, in the rear, well-fed journalists invented heroic deeds for the glory of His Imperial Majesty.

[indy424]

"at the same time, both Russian pilots burned down" (c)

[alexey sidykin]

You have nonsense ... and this is a reliable case, it was in the spring.

[belost79]

A tank is an expensive fighting vehicle. No one will put an unreliable crew in the BM, which must be fixed there.

[alexey sidykin]

So they fixed it, right in the tank ...

[Two]

Nazis should NOT be taken prisoner! The experience of the Khrushchev amnesty is proof of this! Those who have joined them must, at a minimum, be sterilized, and preferably 200. There is no sense from this category of "two-legged" and never will be.

[IVZ]

If you do not take prisoners, they will stop surrendering and will fight, and therefore kill. Yes, and someone needs to restore everything that has been destroyed. In addition, they are sometimes successfully reset by artillery.

[valentine light]

Everything is true in relation to the Ukrainian activists.
But there is no guarantee until you see the quality of the prisoner closer.
And the Russian army does not shoot the prisoners.
It is necessary to know exactly who opposes and then, If the enemy does not surrender, they destroy him.

[1984]

if they had done this to me, the "hatch welders" would not have run far, I think it's a fairy tale ....

[Two]

So, at the very beginning of the conflict, Menchenko met a tank on the battlefield, in which the Ukrainian soldiers were brewed, like in a tin can, so that they would not run away. This is what their fighting "comrades" did to them - the fighters of the nationalist group.

“I had such a case: a tank was walking - they wanted to shoot it, but it was driving and waving its barrel up and down. Has stopped. I gave the command not to shoot, approached him with a grenade, looked - and the hatches were welded, they (tankmen - Approx. ed.) could not get out. We had to cut the hatch with a grinder, and there were boys 18 years old. They said that they were forcibly, at gunpoint, driven into tanks and sent to fight. It was in Debaltseve in 2014,” the militiaman recalled in an interview with an Izvestia correspondent.

[solar]

was it really going to blow up the tank with a grenade? What kind of grenade did he have in his hands?

[alexey sidykin]

Quote: 1984

if they had done this to me, the "hatch welders" would not have run far, I think it's a fairy tale ....

It was like this, but only in the spring.

[Lis_Domino]

by the way, yes - put in a tank (with full ammunition) and a full tank and weld the hatch ... - so-so idea, they can even bang aimlessly from a cannon - shell shock is guaranteed, or crushed by caterpillars ...

[rocket757]

The commander of the “Vostok” battalion of the NM DPR spoke about the crew of the tank of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with welded hatches

. The question is not whether there was / was not such ... quite a lot of skakuas are ready to go and kill ... when / if the situation changes, there will be a subject of discussion, but for now ... while they broadcast that they lack weapons and what then there is also a fact.

[indy424]

and can I have scary photos of welded hatches? it’s not a problem to take a picture - the tank then surrendered

[alexey sidykin]

Wow, why should such an antiquity be presented as fresh ... it was back in the spring.

[valentine light]

I didn't know about it.
It is useful to acquaint people with the inhumanity of the bandera charismatic.

[alexey sidykin]

Quote: valentin light

I didn't know about it.
It is useful to acquaint people with the inhumanity of the bandera charismatic.

So I am for it with both hands ... only you need to write at the same time what, where and when, in fact, it was and not to carry gag.

[Vladimir Michailovich]

Regardless of whether this is true or not, you need to shoot a video on this story and spin it in all the media, the effect will be what you need. And in general, anyone who demands the truth about their own losses in the media is a cretin, and even a traitor.

[Mitia68]

Propaganda must be smart. And because of such tales, you only lose confidence in their source.

[Lis_Domino]

the tank could immediately go to the battlefield and drive in our direction with the turret turned back. The guys would understand what's what ... but it's not accurate

[alexey sidykin]

No, he actually twisted the tower back and forth ... as they wrote; they say it’s good that they didn’t immediately shy away because they didn’t immediately realize what they wanted.

[Al manah]

Well, yes, the victims of the junta did not think of turning the tower back with the barrel, they are all stupid there.

[alexey sidykin]

Well, you need to ask them why ...

[stankow]

Yes, and smoke from the TDA can be started up so that Stugnaya is not shot from behind.

[AleksT]

Doubtful news. As they say tryndet not toss bags

[alexey sidykin]

Of course, it is doubtful, because it was back in the spring ... but Khodokovsky has nothing of the kind, and I know this for sure because I subscribed to him.

[Konnick]

Of course, it is doubtful, because it was back in the spring ... but Khodokovsky has nothing of the kind, and I know this for sure because I subscribed to him.

And I saw this "drop dead" story with him today, in TG, time 9.59. There he starts about the difficult situation near Kherson ... And what does he care about Kherson, he must fulfill his task with the East near Donetsk. And he didn’t even indicate the place where it was, only “ours, our guys ...” Writer ..

[alexey sidykin]

Yes, there is only for 10.44 ... when I was there, this record was not there yet. Well, I am wary of information from telegram bloggers from the front line, especially when they report information from other areas. But I read about such a case in the spring.

[voyaka uh]

This bike has gone for a walk since 2014.
And got to 2022.

[valentine light]

WHAT A TOUGH!!!!!
I would like to know about the fate of these tankers. Pulled them out of this claustrophobic coffin?

Glory to the soldiers of Russia and the armies of New Russia!

[Al manah]

Yes, they dragged them out, but already dead and with traces of beatings, you see, they drove them into the tank with rifle butts.

[Kargapoltsev Alexander]

This is a lie, all Ukrainian tanks and planes were destroyed on February 23rd.

[Sergey Isaev]

Directly smacks of some kind of tales from the smoking room

[faiver]

in my opinion - Batwa, well, everyone believes in what he wants

[evgen1221]

And was the lower evacuation hatch welded up too?

[valentine light]

and what prevented?
"Brew" - no need to make a continuous seam around the perimeter, one "point" is enough and not open.

[newtc7]

It's time for awesome stories. If this is true, how is the video and photo confirmation?
The bike, I think, is from the category “Russian military saw a refrigerator for the first time.”
It is sad that our propaganda is as dumb as theirs.

[Al manah]

Where can I see photos or videos of welded hatches? Or do they not wear mobile phones on the front?

[Petr_Koldunov]

Did NATO instructors also advise? What are their principles?
Well then, the Finns, with their doctrine of snipers chained to firing points, will organically join NATO ...

[Joker62]

This is really the Kyiv regime headed by Zelebobik - natural fascists!

[Konnick]

Another front-line myth. Think about why a serviceable tank is forcibly sent with a walled-up crew? We won't see any video or photos. So serviceable equipment is not scattered. And let Khodakovsky go and put a candle in the church.

[valentine light]

Was the tank serviceable, do you have a photo of the "technical inspection" report? :)
Why did the Germans chain their own to machine guns? And this is a fact!

[Konnick]

Why did the Germans chain their own to machine guns? And this is a fact!

Why were they chained?

[valentine light]

your question: "Why were they chained?"

History

“In the issue of the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper for August 1941, an article was published stating that Soviet soldiers attacking enemy dugouts in one of the sectors of the front in the Smolensk direction, only 2 days in July found 12 Austrians chained to machine guns. According to captured rifleman Ferdinand Kerber, he was chained when the Germans began to retreat.
Therefore, the officer chose the soldier who had the most hesitation in the "victory of the Fuhrer" and charged him with service, and at the expense of expiation such an option.

In short, the stray strayers were chained.

Here, banderlog activists probably suspected that the crew did not like Bandera very much and did not see the Russians as an enemy.

[Konnick]

In short, the stray strayers were chained.

Do you distinguish propaganda from objective information?
Put yourself in the place of these Austrians, will you shoot or not, in order to surrender as soon as possible?
Fanatics were usually chained on the contrary for the purpose of self-sacrifice for the sake of victory at their request, and then at the end of the war. It's like kamikazes didn't put on parachutes.

Here, banderlog activists probably suspected that the crew did not like Bandera very much and did not see the Russians as an enemy.

And he puts them in a tank so that they come on this tank to the Russians.
Are you really so naive and believe in such obvious and cheap propaganda?

[valentine light]

This is exactly what happened, and moreover, even on the part of the Finns during the Second World War.
This is a lot of evidence and does not pull on propaganda.
You still don’t know that the Nazi troops had their own penal battalion - "999", unlike ours, where a fighter who captured the enemy's bridgehead and was wounded was considered to have redeemed himself, in the German "999" they fell without the right to leave from there, except as minus.
I see no difference between the Nazis and the Ukrainian nationalists.

[Konnick]

where a fighter who captured the enemy's bridgehead and was wounded was considered to have redeemed himself

So a whole bridgehead ...
I have a relative for a month, spent a month in the 28th OSHR, commander Major Alexei Nikolayevich Lesik. A month of preparation for reconnaissance in force, reconnaissance in force ten minutes. He received the medal "For Courage" and went alive and unharmed again to twist the tails of the planes to his airfield.

[Vladimir Tkachev]

Some kind of nonsense and nonsense? 1) Why should this make tankers fight. 2) Is the tank disposable? Ammunition through the barrel to replenish? 3) How should the welder and those around him feel at the moment of welding the hatch of a tank with full ammunition with a crew forcibly sent to death? If I were the crew, I would start spending it here, since there is nothing to lose.

[Andobor]

Quote: Vladimir Tkachev

with the crew forcibly sent to death

Why to death, they put the raiders in the tank, and asked them to go to the front and shoot the ammunition in the separatists, and the raid was forgiven.

[solar]

And in this case, what is the point of brewing?

[Andobor]

Quote from solar

And in this case, what is the point of brewing?

Instead of a detachment, the Ukrainian detachments, after all, do not cause any doubts in anyone.

[solar]

why a detachment, if, according to your version, they go voluntarily, so that "and the flight is forgiven"?
Read your previous comment

[Alexei]

Without video confirmation, it all looks like a bike.

[DeGreen]

There is a video on TG. Look. And why do you believe Strelkov, but not Khodakovsky

[shurik-063]

Just some shahids! Well, at least I had the sense to somehow indicate that they were surrendering!
Perhaps the walkie-talkies were removed from the Taka. So they could go on the air to say.
Yes, the APU has a bestial attitude towards people!

[Konnick]

German Kulikovsky said well in his TG Older Edda about this story from Khodakovsky

In the story about the Ukrainian tank with welded hatches, a few more details are missing, namely: chained machine gunners, Negro mercenaries under drugs, who cannot be stopped even by a bullet in the head, and the grandfather who hit the barrel of Abrams / Leopard from a hunting rifle and followed it detonation.

[Rosemary]

Quote: Konnick

German Kulikovsky said well in his TG Older Edda about this story from Khodakovsky

In the story about the Ukrainian tank with welded hatches, a few more details are missing, namely: chained machine gunners, Negro mercenaries under drugs, who cannot be stopped even by a bullet in the head, and the grandfather who hit the barrel of Abrams / Leopard from a hunting rifle and followed it detonation.

And a beautiful sniper from Lithuania in white pantyhose, who was fucked by the whole platoon before being shot, we also really miss.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

The commander of the “Vostok” battalion of the NM DPR spoke about the crew of the tank of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with welded hatches

It's a joke? If it's a joke, then it's bad.
Wish of the editors VO: Guys, do not go down to the level when the plinth is high above your head.

[Incvizitor]

Why should a Jew ze worry about the ruins of the goyim? Everyone writes that he does not care so why be surprised?

[Mint Gingerbread]

This is extremely hard to believe. Sounds like a tale. They have a team of welders there, each tank is sent on its way as soon as the fighters crawl inside. It is unlikely that people would voluntarily agree to be immured in a tank, except perhaps at gunpoint. But what prevented them in this case, to unwind the whole gang with this tank and shoot.

[solar]

Alas, we do not know which Ukrainian general or colonel came up with such a terrible idea.

why is it unknown, the crew was pulled out of the tank?

[Fedorovich]

Well, you can expect such things from the glory classes... Although, of course, it sounds doubtful.

[Alex Justice]

A fairy tale for children. Another fake. You can't fall into lies like that.

[certero]

If someone else had written it, I would have remembered the crucified boy. But Jodorowsky has not yet been seen in all sorts of fantasies and inventions.

[Architect]

We are now waiting for reports about the crew of a helicopter that the evil ones welded inside the cabin and sent to bomb a nuclear power plant

[DeGreen]

This is not nonsense. Just like the fact that the Ukrovermacht, for attacks, refuel their equipment only in one direction

[DeGreen]

And you look at TG channels. There is a video of this tank

[AC130 Gunship]

They will tell you all sorts of stories. But in professional intelligence, information obtained from two or more completely independent sources is confirmed.

[DeGreen]

There was a video of this tank in TG. One day ago

[Viktor Islamov]

Lies. It can not be so. And count this asshole (scribbler)

[IXION]

Well, it’s clear that this is someone’s wild joke.