The Public Chamber of the LPR appealed to the head of the Republic with the initiative to immediately hold a referendum on joining Russia

The Public Chamber of the Luhansk People's Republic adopted an official appeal to the head of the LPR, Leonid Pasechnik, regarding the referendum. The appeal calls on the head of the republic to immediately hold a referendum on recognizing the LPR as a full-fledged subject of the Russian Federation.

The statement addressed by the OP of the LPR to the head of the republic states that joining Russia will bring the security of the LPR to a new level, and will also contribute to the realization of new opportunities on the way back to a full-fledged peaceful life.

Recall that in 2014, a referendum was already held in the Lugansk Republic in the controlled territories. Then the question concerned the state sovereignty of the People's Republic. According to the results of the plebiscite, more than 96% of the inhabitants of the Lugansk region at that time voted for secession from Ukraine. At the same time, the turnout was about 75% of the number of registered voters.

Official Kyiv called that referendum "illegitimate" on the grounds that it "violates the Ukrainian constitution." In response, Luhansk residents accused the then acting President of Ukraine Turchynov of hypocrisy, reminding him that he himself came to power by violating the state constitutional order. In Lugansk, they also reminded that the new Ukrainian “authorities” themselves do not have any legitimacy, since they seized power as a result of an anti-constitutional coup that caused numerous victims.

Now in the LPR they are calling for a referendum where citizens could speak out on the issue of joining the republic to the Russian Federation.

Comments

[Leshak]

In the current situation, a completely reasonable decision on the part of the LPR. The front is again at the borders of the republic and the example of the Kharkov region is before our eyes.

[taiga2018]

In this case, it will be somehow not very convenient to carry out a "regrouping" ...

[Cat Alexandrovich]

If they enter, then they will have to withdraw a bunch of people from the front - only contract soldiers are fighting in Russia.

[dmi.pris1]

Why withdraw from the front? It can be carried out remotely. But in general, why a referendum? People voted with their blood to be in Russia.

[AAK]

First of all, people do not want a repetition of "goodwill gestures" ending with Bucha

[Zhan]

Good evening men. These are people from DONBASS who think so, and we think so with them. But someone measures it in other categories. You look at the GTS of Ukraine and the front line. And here you can see it all.

[Paul Siebert]

This is what the red lines look like...
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[Plate]

Quote: dmi.pris

People voted with their blood to be in Russia.

So far, they have voted only for non-participation in Ukraine. And it is not clear what are the voices of those who live in the territories taken after February 24. So for reliability it is necessary to hold a referendum. Yes, and this is a more formal procedure than voting by blood.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Recall from the front AFTER the referendum! When they will live according to Russian laws.

[aszzz888]

Cat Alexandrovich (Andrey)
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If they enter, then they will have to withdraw a bunch of people from the frontb - only contract soldiers fight in Russia.

For what? Not at all clear. Explain, please. Minus is not mine.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

As soon as the referendum passes and the DPR becomes a subject of the Russian Federation, they will live there according to Russian laws. And Russian laws do not provide for conscription, mobilization. Now a bunch of men from the DPR are called up! Here we are talking about them! They are not contractors! They will have to be released.

[g1v2]

Actually agree. There are many reasons. To kill the negative from the retreat in the Kharkiv region by the entry of the LPR into the Russian Federation - THIS is good. This is certainty and hope for the residents of the DPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson. After being accepted into the Russian Federation, border guards will stand there and it will be possible to transfer the Luhansk NM corps to the RF Defense Ministry with re-equipment with more modern weapons. Again, for internal control, it will be possible to use conscripts, and the units of the MGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs will be transferred to the Russian Guard and the Ministry of Defense. Plus, the active integration of state structures and the economy of the LPR in the Russian Federation will begin. Taxes, reporting, public services, abolition of customs, etc.

[Romario_Argo]

seems to have agreed
The Armed Forces of Ukraine are not advancing on the territory of the Russian Federation in the direction of Bryansk, Belgorod
the same thing will happen here LPR will become part of the Russian Federation
and the troops of the Russian Federation and the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be transferred to the DPR, Kherson, Zaporozhye

[Monster_Fat]

If the republics are recognized as part of the Russian Federation, then during strikes against them and an attack on them, as well as the presence of troops of a neighboring state on their territory without permission, it will be, according to the constitution, a reason to declare war on this state, in all actions corresponding to this provision, a full-scale deployment their armed forces, mobilization, if necessary, etc.

[Machito]

Quote: Monster_Fat

If the republics are recognized as part of the Russian Federation, then during strikes against them and an attack on them, as well as the presence of troops of a neighboring state on their territory without permission, it will be, according to the constitution, a reason to declare war on this state, in all actions corresponding to this provision, a full-scale deployment their armed forces, mobilization, if necessary, etc.

Are strikes against Belgorod not enough to declare war and use tactical nuclear weapons? We are already carrying out terrorist attacks in Moscow. It's quiet on Rublyovka.

[Romario_Argo]

The electoral system of the LPR is 100% ready to hold a referendum on recognizing the republic as a subject of the Russian Federation, said State Duma deputy Vodolatsky

[Sid2014]

What are you speaking about. What a war! The territory of Russia is shelled every day. They beat Belgorod and nothing! Now, if it flew in Moscow, but even that is probably unlikely. And here is some Luhansk. Today Donetsk has 15 dead!!! We still have negotiations with our Kyiv partners.

[Peter1First]

Here is the first intelligible comment! Mobilization! The shelling of Belgorod is one thing, but the attack on the Russian city of Lugansk is an incident of whiteness!

[Quote Lavrov]

Seriously, does anyone think that it is this appeal that matters? Little did they talk about joining the Russian Federation since 2014, there were few appeals, referendums? All this is decided by an act, a team of one person. It has been resolved since 2014. And an extremely unpleasant aftertaste remains from the thought that only after the Kharkov counter-offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, this topic was brought to the media again. The feeling that they just want to stop the negative reaction. Moreover, not a real solution, but simply a discussion on the front pages of the media, on TV shows, and so on.
There would be a real decision - tomorrow there would be a new appeal to join the Russian Federation and by the evening the State Duma would have voted and the President would have signed the law.

[mojohed2012]

There was some sense in these events of the formation of the referendum. And it is laid down by the GDP.
And the logic is here. Its failed and its goals, and methods, and power-means! For VSU harnessed NATO with the United States. De facto it is. We are at war with NATO, while under the guise of APU, but for now!
The adoption by the federation council of the Russian Federation of the LDNR is the loudest and most logical motive for the transition to a full-fledged war without self-contraction, self-restraint and self-restraint!
Svo ceased to be a police operation immediately after the mobilized AFU poured to the front, when it became clear that we were now opposed by a massive army and it was a matter of time - when the number of combat units of the AFU would be increased to a million. Whoever throws their hats and minuses, but in the presence of large mob reserves that have not yet been used up in the rear, the actual Lend-Lease from the United States that is already underway and NATO’s fast large-scale offensives are just around the corner and it’s not possible to contain them through new regroupings already in the Kremlin may not.
Therefore, it is logical and convenient for the Kremlin to have such a poker face with the acceptance of the LPR into the composition, plus a reason to officially declare war, and we have mobilization with the involvement of units with beekeepers, because de facto, the APU and Western mercenaries, specialists from NATO will no longer attack conditional independent separatist regions , but on the territory of Russia on the ground! It's closer to tiao than you think, and drive this thought away from you!

[Normann]

Well, then the Russian Federation will again express its concern in connection with the shelling of its territory, as it has happened more than once, and warn against crossing the red lines, which will be followed by strikes on decision-making points. We all have heard this already, and people in Donetsk are dying in packs from the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine every day.

[bandabas]

"Regroupings" will disappear. And god bless you idiots.

[Paul]

ehh. Your words, yes to the right source! In reality, most likely the idiots will regroup

[voyaka uh]

They need to hurry.
The war is again moving into their territory.

[donavi49]

Judging by the video, that same Belogorovka is already under the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Here is a specific binding - 48.923983, 38.246568 - Shkolnaya street.

And here is the passage along Sivolapova Street.

So it is no longer 100% of the former Luhansk region in the LPR. And again, how to be with this Belogorovka? Throw stormtroopers from Bakhmut and repulse Kadyrov's men? Or enter with Belogorovka and demand that respected partners leave the village? So it’s possible to do this with Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, but what, there with Kyiv.

[mitroha]

Voyaka uh, donavi49, as "Jews" don't German crosses on ukrotechnics bother you? And Nazi swastikas wherever you have to? Or is it different?

[Commissar77]

And you are not bothered by some Latin Z and V instead of Z and B, and even better Red Stars. What's wrong with Stars? Why are Orthodox crosses painted on some Russian tanks? In Israel, tanks are written in Hebrew, as far as I know, aleph, bet, and so on.

[aszzz888]

Mitroha (Alex)
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Voyaka uh, donavi49, don't German crosses on ukrotechnics bother you as "Jews"? And Nazi swastikas wherever you have to? Or is it different?

Do not expect. it Will not answer you. Perhaps some Jews are annoying, but not him. it, mykola-monya, a fugitive from near Zhmerinka, has long grown together with the Ukrainian Reich, works out his soldering of matzah, and drowns here on the site for the Ukrainian Reich.

[Wildcat]

So it is no longer 100% of the former Luhansk region in the LPR. And again, how to be with this Belogorovka?

At the level of discussion "in the press and the Internet" the possibility of introducing mobilization is being discussed.
With the goal of the SVO "not all of Ukraine is already ancestral lands ...", but "protection of the people of Donbass", "Kyiv generally refuses to put up and even from negotiations", the idea arises that a million conscripts will move Ukraine to negotiations.
But IMHO,
1. This will not move Kyiv to negotiations.
2. It’s impossible to keep them so easy, you can return Belogorovka with their help, even reach the borders of the LDNR, but what’s next? "Kyiv does not want negotiations."
3. even this million must first be collected, then somehow distributed in parts and somehow cope with public enthusiasm during mobilization and losses.
4. and again we look at point 1., so we find ourselves in the current situation plus public enthusiasm for mobilization.
5. At the same time, "1000 volunteers or more from each subject of the federation" and "ZKs in PMCs that are not there" will allow to stabilize the situation, preventing "regroupings" and will allow further "slowly but systematically" to move to the borders of the LDNR. Well, "let it go somehow," and then you look, "Europe will freeze and put up with it," "Zelensky will join United Russia" or aliens will fly in and take everything under their control.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: voyaka uh

The war is again moving into their territory.

Then it turns out that Ukraine attacked Russia.

[Zhan]

It's a good news. But the big question for our authorities is how quickly they will make this decision? Or again with an eye, it is not clear in which direction? And even more so, let them not forget that gas is supplied to the south of Russia through Lugansk, the main highway.

[Yura]

Who is like, but I think they deserve it, that's right - deserved to be a part of Russia, with all the rights and obligations, to be under the full protection of our state.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Jura

Who else, but I think they deserved it, that's right - they deserved to be part of Russia

They deserved it, back in 2014.

[Yura]

In 2014, they voted in their referendum for the "Act on State Independence", the desire to join Russia was expressed outside the referendum, but the desire was not a document.

[Osipov9391]

There is no doubt about this. But now what more can Russia do militarily to protect them, if they have been fighting at the limit of their strength for more than six months already?
Although yes ... martial law and general mobilization, since the attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the LPR will already be considered an attack on the territory of Russia.

[AlexTires]

And what, Belgorod is not Russia? Or is it Russia?

[Osipov9391]

And what does Belgorod have to do with it?
Yes, there have been and will be shelling.
But there is no invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, thank God, there yet.
And in the LPR, it is in full swing.

Yes, it is clear that ours also do not know how to properly respond to these tricks of the Ukrainian regime.
To declare war on her real? So she, too, will announce one to us.
And then they will hit Belgorod (and not only on it) from Himars and howitzers, just as they are hitting Donbass.

[AlexTires]

Yes, your logic should have been in memoriz ... Shelling is not an invasion? Do you know for sure from what they are hitting Belgorod?

[Rustic]

Shelling is that not an invasion?

It would be nice if that were the case. Embed nuclear weapons in Kyiv, and say, nothing terrible, we're not going to rummage among the ruins. We won't even get close.

[Osipov9391]

In the summer they beat "Tochka-U". But now it's definitely not Himars. Otherwise, I won’t talk about this - no matter what destruction there is.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Osipov9391

To declare war on her real?

Kovpak should have been asked about this, he knew how to answer.

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: Jura

Who is like, but I think they deserve it, that's right - deserved to be a part of Russia, with all the rights and obligations, to be under the full protection of our state.

After eight years, the word "deserved" is somehow inappropriate in relation to the LNR and the DNR. It is better to unanimously accept, without verbal accompaniment in the form of "deserved".

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Zakirov Damir

Quote: Jura

Who is like, but I think they deserve it, that's right - deserved to be a part of Russia, with all the rights and obligations, to be under the full protection of our state.

After eight years, the word "deserved" is somehow inappropriate in relation to the LNR and the DNR. It is better to unanimously accept, without verbal accompaniment in the form of "deserved".

The referendum itself is just a necessary formality. the process of merging the LPR with Russia should be formalized legally on the basis of the will of the people living on the territory of the republic, in order to then shut up the mouths of all sorts of "human rights activists and well-wishers" from the UN and other mattress offices like PACE, ECHR and OSCE. This procedure is provided for in international law, and despite the fact that a certain part of the "world community" has long wiped their feet on this right, no other procedures are provided. Everything else will be treated as annexation or occupation.

[tralflot1832]

It was necessary to do this a little earlier. My opinion. We are waiting for a reaction to begin with, our Duma and Pasechnik L.I.

[Asad]

We are waiting for the reaction of the GDP. What decides so will be reported to us, the thought and Pasechnik.

[tralflot1832]

A referendum is not a quick matter, how long has it been preparing in peaceful Crimea, from and to?

[Rosemary]

The Supreme Council of Crimea voted for holding a referendum on the status of Crimea on February 27, 2014, and it could have been held as early as March 1-2 (on the first weekend).
But for some reason, they decided to tie the referendum in Crimea to the day of the presidential elections in Ukraine on May 25, 2014.

[tralflot1832]

Now all that remains is to look. If you said A, then you need to say B.

[yuriy55]

Quote: tralflot1832

A referendum is not a quick matter, how long has it been preparing in peaceful Crimea, from and to?

But voting on amendments to the constitution and the adoption of pension reform did not stall.
In Russia, it is not the people's, but the bourgeois power that rules. She does not do what the people demand, but as beneficial to a certain group of people - it was not in vain that blood was shed in the 90s.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: tralflot1832

A referendum is not a quick matter, how long has it been preparing in peaceful Crimea, from and to?

How ? Got up February 23rd. The referendum was held on March 18. Old people on crutches and in wheelchairs came to the polling stations .. The rise of the people was most powerful ... Young and mature, elderly and very old. I had to go to work that day by 8. The authorities allowed us to come to 30-9. I came to the polling station at half past seven in the morning. There were two hundred people in line ... I was late for a good reason.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Somehow it is already easy to predict: "everything is going according to plan."

[Ronrew]

Back in 2014. Eight years late. If we agree to accept them as part of Russia, then maybe we will start fighting in earnest.

[AlexTires]

What's stopping you now?

[Rustic]

It's obvious already. There is an order not to fight for real.

[Osipov9391]

In general, such things should be done when some security lines are fixed on the borders of these republics.
Well, so to speak, there will be a "buffer zone" that the territory of the LPR and the DPR will not be shelled.
Then you can referenda and everything else.

But why are they asking now?
Thinking that having become part of Russia, Moscow will be able to use tactical nuclear weapons to protect them against the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
But hardly anyone in Russia would take such a step.
For this will immediately lead to the appearance of B61 bombs in the Armed Forces of Ukraine together with aircraft for their delivery. The West will.
And he will tell Ukraine an equivalent goal - for example, large groupings of our troops in the LDNR.
There Ukraine will strike back with these bombs. And what will hit if there is no doubt no one.
So there is a double-edged sword here.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Osipov9391

Thinking that having become part of Russia, Moscow will be able to use tactical nuclear weapons to protect them against the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

There are enough non-nuclear weapons in Russia, the use of which will cause massive diarrhea.
The goals have long been known. It's time to determine the timing of the attacks.
People were drawn to Russia to live free, but for now they got the freedom to die...
Has the trial over the “Azovites” died out or have they all been hanged as a warning?

[Dartanian]

Accept, do not accept, this does not change the fact that security is achieved not by scribbles, but by a military force controlled by skilled specialists for whom there are no red fake lines ... I look at what is happening and think whether some individuals on the 23rd thought well what they had in mind ....

[Osipov9391]

And here another question arises: was it possible to carry out the NWO quickly with a victory within a month or two?
Basically, yes, it's possible. But! The forces that had to be introduced there then should have been 3-4 times greater than those that were introduced.
But they were not and never will be. And even if there were, then the concentration of such forces near the border with Ukraine would take much more time.
And if so, then NATO Allied Armed Forces could then be the first to enter Ukraine on the basis of the conclusions that it would be quickly defeated on its own and would not be able to fight at all.
But they did not do this, because their intelligence and analysts worked well - they concluded that Russia would not be able to cope with Ukraine with such a grouping and the war would drag on for many months. Therefore, NATO, as it were, remained on the sidelines, only the drain of reconnoitered and the supply of weapons is limited for now.

[donavi49]

was it possible to carry out the CBO quickly with a victory within a month or two?

Yes - depending on the actions of the enemy.

Well, again, with certain inputs, the Crimean polite people could turn into a NWO for Belbek and Bakhchisarai, leveling them to a broken brick. It just burned out then, but not now. For some reason, I think that the main calculation was precisely on the small-victorious one, where most of the army, as in the Crimea, will take neutrality or sabotage the orders of Kyiv, and then a couple of brilliant operations, entering Kharkov, landing in Kyiv - happy ending. Another issue is probabilities. If in the year 14 the probability of fraternization was high, then in the year 22 it was near zero even if they sent suitcases and guarantees to everyone they could, and it worked to a limited extent. For example, Kherson, Berdyansk, Melitopol.

[Machito]

Quote: Osipov9391

And here another question arises: was it possible to carry out the NWO quickly with a victory within a month or two?
Basically, yes, it's possible. But! The forces that had to be introduced there then should have been 3-4 times greater than those that were introduced.
But they were not and never will be. And even if there were, then the concentration of such forces near the border with Ukraine would take much more time.
And if so, then NATO Allied Armed Forces could then be the first to enter Ukraine on the basis of the conclusions that it would be quickly defeated on its own and would not be able to fight at all.
But they did not do this, because their intelligence and analysts worked well - they concluded that Russia would not be able to cope with Ukraine with such a grouping and the war would drag on for many months. Therefore, NATO, as it were, remained on the sidelines, only the drain of reconnoitered and the supply of weapons is limited for now.

What about the so-called mercenaries? Are you sure they are not regular NATO troops? Have you checked their documents?

[Osipov9391]

And what if they are there? Indeed, during the time of the Finnish company, the Swedes could secretly fight on the side of the Finns.
And then Sweden did not declare war on the USSR. And the USSR did not declare war on it.
This has happened more than once.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

They are strange. When they are pressed, they immediately start talking about joining Russia. Only the danger will pass - they are the most free and independent. It can be seen that the front is really collapsing and there is a real threat of defeating ours.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

They are strange. When they are pressed, they immediately start talking about joining Russia.

No one pressed us, and no one "pees" with fear, we have been in a hundred times the worst situation all these years. These are the aspirations of our citizens and the authorities should not put it off until later. Entering Russia is, first of all, the fact of reformatting power at all levels, which has developed without the principle of election and has not changed since 2014. Everything is like in the famous song of V. Tsoi ...
But the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot be avoided! On the bridgehead with one pontoon bridge and a deserted village, you can’t hold out for a long time, there are enough forces in that area

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Then be patient. 90 out of 100 that will not accept you now. In 2014, they did not dare to do this. They will not go even now when the front rolled back. And you can put as many cons as you like. The situation at the front does not change from this.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

And you can put as many cons as you like.

Yeah, I threw you a minus and so 11 times in a row!

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

The situation at the front does not change from this.

It's not my fault you're having a lethargic dream. Wake up, it's 2022 in the yard, take a look at the map of the outskirts - it no longer has many outskirts

[GNSh-2]

Well, it seems logical: evil tongues say that the ZSU entered Belogorovka, and for a second this is Lugansk region, the one that has long been completely and "forever".
The head of the Ukrainian Luhansk region spoke about this, no one officially confirmed it, but a little later a video camera arrived, I double-checked it on a Google map, it’s right at the junction of Sivolapova and Shkolnaya streets. Everything is beautiful, everything is clear, houses, trees, even a pipe over the road in the same place. So that...
Unexpectedly, it turned out that the ZSU are strong enough to successfully attack and this is a very unpleasant fact for a trained patriot. And here you can shout as much as you like that we will recapture again, but the question is, what will this recognition give in this situation?
The Ukrainians will shrug their shoulders and chhav on the newly appeared pieces of paper will go further on the attack and ...
What's next? in the seventh month of the war, "everything they could" had not yet begun? A nuclear bomb is simply not serious, and for the whole world Lugansk is Ukraine, no one, even China and India, needs a nuclear cloud, so it's all useless. The Ukrainians are right in that they honestly say: what kind of negotiations? We cut to the last one who won, that and slippers ...

[Virus-free crown]

The Kremlin will not accept the LPR as part of Russia now, otherwise it will have to declare war on Ukraine with all the ensuing consequences. That's se la vie for now...

[Dynamo]

And besides, you can not accept the LPR and not accept the DPR. I don't think they will accept their request.

[AlexTires]

Justify, please. Just do not forget that the Kremlin recognized the LDNR as state entities with its own subjectivity

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: AlexTires

Justify, please. Just do not forget that the Kremlin recognized the LDNR as state entities with its own subjectivity

Here is the recognition of the Lao PDR - this is the rationale for protecting them from Ukraine. We simply protect them under an agreement, an agreement on mutual assistance. But if the Lao PDR become part of the Russian Federation, this will already turn out to be a full-fledged war with Ukraine, starting with the introduction of martial law and further down the list. By the way, the lists include that in the event of war, citizens and enterprises can say to banks (by law) - "To whom I owe, I forgive everyone." That is, the collapse of the financial system in the Russian Federation is for starters ...

[Million]

I think that the boys at the top will doubt for a long time.

[kventinasd]

The Public Chamber of the LPR appealed to the head of the Republic with the initiative to immediately hold a referendum on joining Russia

This is already the hysteria of the LDNR authorities from the constant drains of the NWO in order to somehow save their lives. While someone in the Kremlin is pushing in constant statements "let's see how they attack there", dozens of civilians are dying in the Donbass every day. Svyatogorsk and Belogorovka have already been surrendered, just as shamefully as Kupiask and Izyum. What's next, Lisichansk and Severodonetsk? Is this how we decided to defend the Donbass? About denazification is probably out of the question.

[Graz]

It is clear that people are afraid that they will be abandoned, as in the Kharkiv region, and they want to have guarantees

[Paladin]

“violates the Ukrainian constitution”

In combination with the word "Ukrainian", one is asked to change the first three letters in the word "constitution" to "pro-".

[Corrosion inhibitor]

The Public Chamber of the LPR addressed the head of the Republic with the initiative to immediately hold a referendum on joining Russia.

Residents of the planet Moscow Kremlin, I conjure you with all the devils - take off the handbrake and start reading the news!

[Ryaruav]

this scares the top of Russia because these are armed organized people who are no strangers to defending their positions, and there the very Russian military (of course, not all) will support the anti-oligarchic speech, and then, as we already know, the month of October 1917, but the citizen will not be the same as then, not enough who will go to die for the moneybags

[kventinasd]

Quote: Ryaruav

few people will die for the moneybags

Yes, even now, few of the contractors who have been in the NVO want to continue to take part in this mess. I talked with one military man who was decommissioned due to a wound, many of the hospitals no longer want to return to this meat grinder, so the authorities are afraid that the mobilization may not go exactly as they planned, and there are sorely lacking people at the front. So the hour is not even when conscripts will be driven to this massacre.

[Mazunga]

it would be nice for Kherson to hurry up with this initiative and to pull the rest up to the empire as they are released

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quite reasonable. The shelling, of course, will not go away completely ... but it will definitely be reduced to a minimum - as the Kursk, Bryansk and Rostov regions are now forced to endure them.
This, of course, is also unacceptable - and I, like everyone else, believe that for the shelling of peaceful Russian territory, it is necessary to give such an answer that for another month after this, pains in the ass itch at the ukrovermacht ... However, this is still orders of magnitude less than arrives via LDNR. And border posts will help to correct this situation. And if the Sumerians attack happens, then they will already enter not their own territory, but the territory of the Russian Federation. Which automatically means a declaration of war. Moreover, Russia will be in the position of defending itself. What gives Russia the right to act without regard to morality and principles at all.

[Herman 4223]

It's high time, I think that the Ukrainian offensive strongly pushed this decision. Thank you ukram for this.

[shpon123]

This is certainly good, but there is one question, what will it change?
Will the Armed Forces of Ukraine stop shooting at the LPR or will they stop trying to recapture the territories?
You can start beating me with sticks, but I'm sure Luhansk residents will be sent, and the issue of accepting the LPR into the Russian Federation "is pushed to the right for an indefinite period"

[iouris]

What can a referendum change? If the war stops, then only when the Russian Federation or the United States capitulates, and therefore all the liberated territories are "liberated" and not "occupied". In 1943-44. no one thought of holding a referendum. As a result of the war, a world order emerged. Leaving the state of Ukraine for Russia is impossible, because. Ukraine, in the presence of the Vatican, Berlin, London and Washington, this state always becomes Anti-Russia. Leaving the state of Russia is impossible for the United States. The US and all satellites have already declared war on Russia and the old world order. There is no choice: you need to fight until a favorable world order is established or until the end.

[t-4]

If they become part of the Russian Federation - no options, the RF Armed Forces will be obliged to push the Armed Forces of Ukraine

[iouris]

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (so far) cannot "push back" the NATO formations and this situation cannot be changed by a referendum. Something else is required here.