The result of the confrontation between the Russian BTR-82A and the American M113 in Ukraine is shown

American armored vehicles show far from the best performance during the fighting in Ukraine. This time, the Russian BTR-82A armored personnel carrier won a duel with the American M113 armored vehicle.

As you know, now the West has saturated the Ukrainian army with its military equipment. Many Ukrainian units are already operating on American and European armored vehicles. Therefore, a special military operation in Ukraine is also an excellent test of whose equipment is better. That is what happened this time.

The video of the duel was published by the Telegram channel "Welders". The footage shows how a Russian armored personnel carrier is attacking an American armored vehicle with a Ukrainian crew. M113 does not withstand the onslaught of Russian armored vehicles. As a result, Ukrainian militants abandon their equipment and run away. An American armored car is captured by Russian troops. Plus one trophy in minutes.

Recall that the M113 is one of the main American-made armored personnel carriers, which began to be produced back in the 1960s and is still in operation in 44 countries around the world. The M113 armored personnel carrier was used in many armed conflicts in various countries of the world.

However, it cannot be said that he has proven himself well: the American armored car was knocked out by Iraqi soldiers during conflicts with Iraq, and by the Palestinians during the confrontation with Israeli troops, who also actively used the M113.

Now American armored personnel carriers are actively used in Ukraine. However, the duel with the Russian BTR-82A showed that American equipment is not a "magic wand" for the Ukrainian armed forces.

In many situations, it turns out to be ineffective. In addition, the United States is supplying Ukraine with obsolete weapons, which also has a general impact on the ability of the Ukrainian army in a confrontation with the Russian armed forces. However, such deliveries should not be underestimated either.

The BTR-82A is a much newer armored vehicle compared to the M113. It was adopted by the Russian army in 2013. The BTR-82 armored personnel carrier is a modernized, and very thoroughly, version of the BTR-80, one of the most massive armored vehicles of the Soviet and Russian armies.

Speaking specifically about the BTR-82A, it is armed with a 30-mm 2A72 cannon in the BPPU module. Currently, the BTR-82A and BTR-82AM are in service with the ground forces, airborne troops, coastal units of the Russian Navy and the National Guard troops.

Comments

[serg.shishkov2015]

I would be surprised if it were the other way around! 12,7mm machine gun versus 30mm cannon! association one-T-40 against Panzer-2

[Victor_B]

Quote: serg.shishkov2015

12,7mm machine gun versus 30mm cannon!

For some reason, the video does not show holes from 30mm shells.
Did the M-113 armor survive?
It is strange that even the dents are not visible.

[Lykases1]

She couldn't, in theory. 30 mm from some angles and the tank can be damaged.

[Shurik70]

No return fire is visible. Yes, and our armored personnel carrier does not maneuver, but calmly stands and shoots, as in a shooting range.
Most likely, the M113 stopped, part (or completely) of the crew got out, and then they were caught. Or they immediately rushed to run, leaving the equipment after the first shots.
So they shot at people, not at equipment.
The M113 has aluminum armor, bulletproof. 30mm will break through, and after that there will be a lot of smoke from burnt aluminum inside. There is no smoke in the video. So not a single hit in the armor.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Shurik70

Most likely, M113 stopped, ......

She still wouldn’t stop: one roller was torn off, the caterpillar flew off.

[Misha Honest]

Thank you, I understood what the press of the Russian Federation is worth, as well as the press of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. THEY are equal and they obviously have one owner. And our WHOLE COUNTRY IS FUCKERS ... Everything is clear, thank you ...

[Nikolay Dyaglev]

I saw the video where the 82ka shoots back in July, and these Dutch M113s went into battle for the first time only during the September counterattack. They made a poor montage of two videos completely different in time and even months into one, and the "not sharp" beadle is being led to this crap.

[impostor]

The aluminum content in the armor is a fraction of a percent, this is not the case when you mixed aluminum or magnesium powder with potassium permanganate as a child

[Shurik70]

M113 armor released after 1986 uses alloy 2519-T87
It:
5,3–6,4% copper
0,25% silicon,
0,30% iron,
0,10–0,50% manganese,
0,05–0,40% magnesium,
0,10% zinc,
0,02–0,10% titanium,
0,05–0,15% vanadium,
0,10–0,25% zirconium,
0,40% chemical compound of silicon with iron
up to 0,15% other trace elements
Everything else is aluminum
In earlier samples of aluminum is smaller, but still the main part.

[impostor]

I'm sorry, I went to bed last night. I am not an expert on armor alloys, but it is known from open sources that this steel is not homogeneous, roughly speaking - a puff, the aluminum layers are really almost 100% Al, but these layers are described as very thin. In any case, it seems to me that for the active combustion of aluminum, its powdered state and its entire composition are necessary for the access of the required amount of oxygen, which can be provided by the same potassium permanganate ... I can be wrong, but these arguments still come to mind

[Shurik70]

Quote: impostor

for active combustion of aluminum, its powdered state is necessary

Watch "Pentagon Wars" 1998 movie.
It perfectly shows what happens INSIDE the equipment in aluminum armor when it is pierced by a cumulative jet.
All the aluminum that was in place of the hole evaporates and burns. Inside technology.
And the smoke turns out to be very poisonous, it burns the respiratory tract almost instantly.

[impostor]

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[impostor]

Hmm...Alexander, I wouldn't rely on art materials...the director has the right to fiction. I remain with my own - the cumulative jet forms a comparable smoke in the internal space of the object, both in the presence of homogeneous armor and in the case of a puff.

[serg.shishkov2015]

my student friends did it not at all as a child! experimental chemists!

[SKVichyakow]

His HEROES just abandoned him out of fear. But the defeat is not visible.

[Warrior with machine gun]

This 113 coffin on a caterpillar has outlived its usefulness, although it was not ideal even in its youth ...

[Fisherman]

I agree, Yakov Kedmi said that they were forbidden to enter the M113 zone of possible combat damage - they burn like candles along with the crew.

[Nikolay Dyaglev]

And the BTR 80 is just an infantryman's dream))) BTR 82 - the difference is only in the cannon, if you put 113mm on the m30, then the m113 is unlikely to be worse than our BAT

[Terenin]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: serg.shishkov2015

12,7mm machine gun versus 30mm cannon!

For some reason, the video does not show holes from 30mm shells.
Did the M-113 armor survive?
It is strange that even the dents are not visible.

They didn't shoot at her. They drove away the l / s that was repairing the chassis. It can be seen that the sledgehammer lies on the armor.

[Flyer_64]

Quote: Terenin

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: serg.shishkov2015

12,7mm machine gun versus 30mm cannon!

For some reason, the video does not show holes from 30mm shells.
Did the M-113 armor survive?
It is strange that even the dents are not visible.

They didn't shoot at her. They drove away the l / s that was repairing the chassis. It can be seen that the sledgehammer lies on the armor.

Exactly. for 53 seconds, the left rear roller without a caterpillar is visible.

[hector]

Quote: Victor_B

For some reason, the video does not show holes from 30mm shells.
Did the M-113 armor survive?
It is strange that even the dents are not visible.

They just didn't hit, the Ukrainians got scared. In the video, one wheel is lying nearby, the Ukrainians were engaged in tire fitting, it is dangerous to drive on the stubble, on delicate NATO equipment, you can easily gouge or break off the wheel.

[Alexey Lantukh]

They didn't shoot at her, or maybe they didn't hit her. Captured whole.

[Andrey Shpakov]

however, there were a lot of shots .. but the car did not burn down .. it was abandoned

[hector]

Quote: Andrey Shpakov

however, there were a lot of shots .. but the car did not burn down .. it was abandoned

And there are no corpses with the wounded either.
Conclusion, the shooting is unsatisfactory. After all, he could stay inside, let him in closer and make holes with a machine gun. Stupid risk on the part of the Russians.

[Terenin]

Quote: ettore

Quote: Andrey Shpakov

however, there were a lot of shots .. but the car did not burn down .. it was abandoned

And there are no corpses with the wounded either.
Conclusion, the shooting is unsatisfactory. After all, he could stay inside, let him in closer and make holes with a machine gun. Stupid risk on the part of the Russians.

Yes, it's okay to put a deuce. A combined sight for a gunner with a stabilized field of view is installed on the Be-te-re ... and it shoots competently, short ...
Well done, fighter, managed not to damage the trophy.

[hector]

Quote: Terenin

Well done, fighter, managed not to damage the trophy.

This broken cart is not worth it, especially since it was not on the move, you can see it on the video. They could also run into an ambush, get in the side with a rye grenade launcher or whatever was not beveled there.

[Terenin]

Quote: ettore

They could also run into an ambush, get in the side with a rye grenade launcher or whatever was not beveled there.

And, you don’t specifically see the intelligence action, which shoots the video

[hector]

And, intelligence within a radius of 400 m completely combed everything? I doubt it very much, given the fever on the video. A 100% guarantee does not exist in principle; in the war, many were pierced by this carelessness. I repeat, a broken old chest is not the goal to take such risks, they burned at a distance and went on without wasting time in vain.

[Terenin]

Quote: ettore

I repeat, a broken old chest is not the goal to take such risks,

The chest can contain various things

Quote: ettore

burned at a distance and went on without wasting time in vain.

For mines?

Quote: ettore

I doubt it very much, given the fever on the video.

There is no fever there. The usual "hook" and quickly legs, until it arrived.

[hector]

Quote: Terenin

Quote: ettore
burned at a distance and went on without wasting time in vain.
For mines?

And what about mines? Where they stood, they shot from there and left along the beaten track. Just flying towards him, they could run into a mine, the sappers did not check the approaches for a hundred pounds. And considering that the caterpillar of the Ukrainians was torn and the skating rink was broken off, they could run into a mine and there was more than one.

[Terenin]

Quote: ettore

And here are the mines?

back and forth ... And, can you put all your thoughts together?

Quote: ettore

And considering that the caterpillar of the Ukrainians is torn and the skating rink is broken off, then they could run into a mine and there is not one.

[hector]

Quote: Terenin

Quote: ettore
And what about mines?
back and forth ... And, can you put all your thoughts together?

Here is your message

Quote: ettore
burned at a distance and went on without wasting time in vain.
For mines?

Howling and I ask, where did the mines come from with such actions?
And, here on the field with the Khokhlyat armored personnel carrier, where the Russians rushed, there could well be mines.

[Terenin]

Quote: ettore

mines could well be.

Anything can happen in a war. But, in fact, this attack justified itself.

[svp67]

Quote: serg.shishkov2015

I would be surprised if it were the other way around in this situation.

There is a more interesting video of the battle of the BTR-4 "Bucephalus" in Mariupol against a tank and infantry fighting vehicles of the RF Armed Forces ...

[Gvardeetz77]

Everything is fine, but the 113th is the past of mattress covers, and the 82nd is our present. Now, if 82 Strykers sawed out once or twice, then yes, a modern car, otherwise ...
We will keep silent about the BMP, since a different class is still ...

[yuriy55]

Just beauties! It's not the place that makes the man...

[gansales]

Quote: yuriy55

Just beauties! It's not the place that makes the man...

Yes, everything is fine! Now, of course, whiners will trample everything and raise a howl of jackals hehe They don't need to interfere
The men work well!

[pharmacist]

Any trophy is pleasant, M113 so M113 will serve our fighters more.

[Warrior with machine gun]

It will do for the removal of the wounded from the front end, the main thing is that they do not burn their own.

[Chief Officer Lom]

To be honest, I did not understand the relationship from the video - a BTR-82A is shown shooting somewhere, and then an abandoned M113. I understand that this is not a movie being filmed and it is impossible to film everything that happens completely and from the most convenient angles, but the connection is not obvious from the video itself.

[faiver]

can you prove that the ruling? if not, what's the point of talking talk?

[Chief Officer Lom]

You, my friend, boor. Where did I write that this is a performance? There is no connection from the video, and you have come up with everything else yourself.

[faiver]

son, I didn’t be rude to you , I agree, there was not a word about the decision

[potterz]

So where are the holes in the ov's car? Especially since the car is running.

[Sergey028]

Can you prove otherwise? Although I am inclined to think that it is not staged. But this is the last century. Well done, of course, but proud of such a trophy - such a thing.

[Terenin]

Quote: Chief Officer Lom

to be honest, I did not understand the relationship from the video

Why then run with your legs when the technique works? Definitely something was killed in the chassis. Result on the face.

[From Tomsk]

This M113 still remembers Vietnam. antique thing

[Konnick]

So did they break through the armor or not? Is there a full video...

[Nuka]

Quote: Konnick

So did they break through the armor or not? Is there a full video...

Bradley stitches any barrel 12,7 ... Or do you not believe Kedmi?

[Alexfly]

We found something to compare .. a Browning fart against a cannon .. it struck a couple of times and dumped .. That's right, who will stay in a leaky trough?

[Ryaruav]

the m-113 does not have a single scratch, although there, in theory, the sieve should be burned inside, mosfilm

[Div Divich]

The skating rink is lying nearby, the caterpillar seems to be torn.
Looks like the car couldn't drive and was abandoned.
When the enemy shoots and advances, and the car breaks down, it makes no sense to turn off the engine.

[lucul]

The skating rink is lying nearby, the caterpillar seems to be torn.
Looks like the car couldn't drive and was abandoned.

Maybe ours were shooting at the harp to pick up the trophy)))

[Div Divich]

Another thing is more interesting, whether an armored personnel carrier cannon can tear the tracks of enemy vehicles.
The video does not say what they hit the technique from, but you can launch an RPG for such a result.

[single-n]

Basically it can. the same 37mm Germans But just like in the video. While firing in bursts, hit ONLY the REAR wheel !!
I doubt it.

[Ryaruav]

Vitaly, do we have only snipers on all armored personnel carriers? and at a distance the chassis is barely visible, mainly the upper part, are you a shooter?

[Charik]

Yes, and you are in it - IA donkey, wash your eyes in the morning

[Ryaruav]

not literate ghouls with minuses, I love you too, you are LGBT supporters, congratulations, not a single logically designed minus

[Ryaruav]

all minusers are eccentrics with the letter m and you each of you did not give an explanation

[BastaKarapuzik And]

They probably shot to drive the crew away from the future trophy.
The crew fixed the problem with the chassis.
But under fire it makes no sense.
In the frame of the video, a flying harp.
The people in the comments write that the left sledgehammer is visible on the armor.

[voyaka uh]

All right.
M113 - for transporting infantry off-road, and not for combat and duels.
The Ukrainians had to immediately dismount, and the M113 driver
- drive the armored car back, take it out from under fire.

[quote]

And burn it, the infantry, with a blue flame.
But put a plus. Nobody canceled the tactics of using technology and its purpose.

[lucul]

All right.
M113 - for transporting infantry off-road, and not for combat and duels.
The Ukrainians had to immediately dismount, and the M113 driver
- drive the armored car back, take it out from under fire.

As if we have an armored personnel carrier -82A should go ahead of the tanks)))
Also for the delivery of infantry.

[storm]

This is a new tactic for Ukrainian motorized infantry.
Detachments in armored vehicles, with forces up to a company, probe our defenses and hit at weak points and at the junction of formations.
Under Balakleya and Izyum, this tactic showed itself well, and they continue to use it.
The fact that the equipment was abandoned makes life more expensive, and the Americans will still give a lift.
Ours along Balakleya during the "regrouping" also threw a lot of things from armored vehicles, not even damaged ...

[Rriv]

At the 113th, the caterpillar flew off. The 82nd drove the APU away from the 113th.

[Terenin]

Quote: RRiv

At the 113th, the caterpillar flew off. The 82nd drove the APU away from the 113th.

I'm also leaning towards this version.

[single-n]

Most likely it was. Maybe it didn’t fly off, but simply torn from old age / wear and tear. There is a red ribbon there. Very similar to a towing tape. The crew seemed to be trying to pull the harp.

[Emil]

The Yankees do not, and will never have, adequate ground equipment with whom to fight, with Mexico, or with Canada. And therefore, the Yankee business will not invest in this ...

[opposite28]

The important thing is that the BTR-82A and M113 vehicles are not damaged and the crew of the 82nd is alive and not harmed. A copy of the legendary American-made armored personnel carrier is not to blame for the fact that the Ukrainian crew is topographically competently oriented on the terrain. Another trophy for the advancing forces of the LDNR and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the form of an M113 armored personnel carrier will not be superfluous, the tracks will be slightly tightened and on the road, I probably went half-flat.

[iouris]

Did the enemy have no losses (M113 does not count)?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Finally, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation began to put pressure on the information front, more such videos with successful attacks by our army should be shown!

[Allex]

There are also bullets, probably explosive in 30mm

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Allex

There are also bullets, probably explosive in 30mm

Not at all. Because

30mm

can only be shells, not

bullets

[maxim1987]

M-ki's engine sound is pleasant (especially someone else's)

[Grigory Remarque]

Well, this 113 was studied at school in the NVP in the 80s. If Stryker or Marten were to be captured. But maybe it will also succeed, they seem to promise to send it to non-brothers.

[Vladimir Michailovich]

I think the crew of the M-113 jumped off when they saw the BTR-82. Predictably, there were no people who wanted to sit in an aluminum box under fire from 2A42. They did the right thing by the way.

[Alister kroulegg]

Why did they let the crew leave? Very weird video

[_Ugene_]

not a single hit is visible on the video, it seems that the harp flew off and was thrown

[Pavel57]

The holes in the M113 armor are not visible.
It would be more correct to compare with Bradley.

[Glagol1]

12,7 vs. 30 mm is a clear story. It's good that the Wehrmacht did not have wearable anti-tank systems, or simply did not have time to use them.

[aesculapius]

It seemed m113 and fired, then the bk ended and the armored personnel carrier rolled up, and at m 113 the suspension fell apart - the rollers were skewed and the caterpillar was removed, so they abandoned

[vovochkarzhevsky]

It looks like they hit the chassis with accurate shots. And after the crew rushed to run, they chased him. They decided not to destroy the car, but to take it as a trophy.

[QuietDon2]

It feels like these are two different videos glued together. It can be seen that the M113 was abandoned due to a mine explosion, the harp flew off and the skating rink was lying alone. You can't tear off a roller with a 30mm cannon.

[Charik]

I think if 113 would have exploded on the Friday mine, there wouldn’t be what they showed

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Charik

I think if 113 would have exploded on the Friday mine, there wouldn’t be what they showed

still, there are also anti-vehicle mines and SVU ....

[Force]

It feels like these are two different videos glued together. It can be seen that the M113 was abandoned due to a mine explosion, the harp flew off and the skating rink was lying alone. You can't tear off a roller with a 30mm cannon.

That's right, both videos have nothing to do with each other.
I saw a fragment with the shooting of the BTR-82 back in the spring.
And the second one is here: https://t.me/milinfolive/90652
Draw your own conclusions .... (VO You are the best .... )

[Wildcat]

Yes, you are great. looks like different stories. And IMHO, there was a PT mine - a skating rink and a caterpillar were shot down.

[JD1979]

A brief retelling of the article and video: 2 pensioners met, decided to measure their trunks, one turned out to be thicker but crooked because. he never hit, and the wheel of the wheelchair of another broke, but this did not stop the pensioner with a crooked trunk from trying to give a tear by shooting back through the op, and only the complete immobility of the second made him squeeze the rolls to the crunch of bricks to drive up and take a closer look.
PS: sometimes such a combination of inspiring text and video gives a feeling of Spanish shame ... It seems that both individually are not bad, but together ...

[alex-pmr]

I think it's already the bottom. Use for propaganda a video that a modern Russian armored personnel carrier is opposed to the "prehistoric" M113 armored personnel carrier ... there are no words ...

[Mint Gingerbread]

Didn't see the duel. Usually after a duel, the technique is in snot, the crew is in heaven, at one of the parties. The title is clickbait.

[Kosh]

This is still more precisely not the M113, but the Dutch YPR-765 in the YPR-765PRI variant.

[Illanatol]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: serg.shishkov2015

12,7mm machine gun versus 30mm cannon!

For some reason, the video does not show holes from 30mm shells.
Did the M-113 armor survive?
It is strange that even the dents are not visible.

The crew did not survive. They crap one's pants after the first shots and fled.
"It was not in the reel, then **** was sitting in the cockpit ..."

[Skiff]

Well, pride is going through the roof, we defeated the battle of the Vietnam era .....

[Vyacheslav Borichevsky]

Say thanks to the Netherlands for not putting a modification with a 25 mm gun! The outcome would obviously be different!

[SIT]

The duel of armored personnel carriers is prescribed by what Charters? Especially in an open field. Both must be destroyed instantly. They are not intended for such actions. Especially the 113th. I didn’t really see whether the wheat was harvested or did they drive right on the bread like that?

[Wildcat]

Hmm, did anyone notice on this YPR-765 armored personnel carrier (IMHO, this is not M113) traces and hit results?

[Puper driver]

Maybe I didn’t look carefully, but I didn’t see a single penetration.

[Lara Croft]

It seems that the video shows that the M113 does not have one skating rink (0:41) and the caterpillar on the port side is torn off (0:53), most likely the airmen ran into a mine and waited for the ARV, and ours noticed them and mistook them for patrol of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Ukrainians and they fled through the rear ramp of the M113 armored personnel carrier, which ours physically could not notice, because. pearl with a "drill" to meet the Armed Forces of Ukraine without covering the flanks ....

Ours will now have to blow up this M113 on the spot, removing its weapons and communications .... otherwise the UAV will fly in ....

Abandoned armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles / armored vehicles with a running engine could be seen earlier on the Internet during the Houthis attack on the KSA army in Yemen, which is either burned on the spot or blown up ....

[Dedok]

Quote: Glagol1

the Wehrmacht did not have wearable anti-tank systems,

and faust?