NATO Secretary General: Ukraine will disappear if it stops fighting with Russia

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NATO Secretary General: Ukraine will disappear if it stops fighting with Russia

If Ukraine stops fighting against Russia, it will cease to exist. This was stated by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

According to the Secretary General of the North Atlantic Alliance, the establishment of peace in Ukraine depends on whose initiative the hostilities will be stopped. He believes that if Moscow stops them, then peace will allegedly be restored, but if Kyiv is the first to stop hostilities, then allegedly Ukraine will lose its state sovereignty.



Thus, Stoltenberg actually voiced the already poorly concealed position of the West: Ukraine should be at war with Russia, this is the only reason for its existence for the “collective West”. After all, if Kyiv stops confrontation with Moscow, then all Western financial investments, all deliveries of weapons and military equipment will be meaningless.

The very existence of the Ukrainian state interests the West only to the extent that this state is ready and able to wage an endless war against Russia. In recent decades, Ukraine has been viewed by the West as an “Anti-Russia” project. Outside of this project, its tasks, the existence of such a country really loses all meaning. After all, if there is no opposition to Russia, why is Ukraine needed at all?

Now the West can, of course, rejoice at the fact that it has managed to push one people together. This is the long-standing goal of Western Russophobes, which they cherished since the end of the XNUMXth century, inventing the construct of political Ukrainianism and in every possible way supporting the emergence and development of Ukrainian nationalism. This project was so important for them that at one time the Bandera people were forgiven for both cooperation with Hitler and the genocide of Jews and Poles, if only they performed their functions of further confrontation with the USSR / Russia.

Jens Stoltenberg made another interesting statement: the NATO Secretary General said that the West would help Ukraine move from the Soviet weapons of its army to the Western - American and European. That is, Western countries plan to continue pumping weapons into Ukraine, solving two problems - maintaining the "eternal war" with Russia and ensuring the loading of their military industry.

By the way, NATO should have a new Secretary General in the near future. Jens Stoltenberg may be replaced in this post by Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance of Canada. An ethnic Ukrainian by origin, Freeland is known for her rabid Russophobia. Obviously, such a candidacy for the post of NATO Secretary General completely suits those groups of "hawks" in the Western elites who are set on the "eternal war" of Ukraine against Russia.

Of course, Moscow should also take into account NATO's position regarding the Ukrainian events, building further interaction with the North Atlantic Alliance and the countries of the "collective West". Hatred undisguised by the West for Russia, for the Russians, stories and the political sovereignty of our country must meet a worthy response at the highest state level. And this answer should not only be an "expression of concern".
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  1. +12
    9 September 2022 17: 09
    If Kyiv is the first to stop hostilities, then supposedly Ukraine will lose its state sovereignty

    ***
    - What is long gone, you will not lose ...
    ***
    1. +1
      9 September 2022 17: 12
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      If Kyiv is the first to stop hostilities, then supposedly Ukraine will lose its state sovereignty

      ***
      - What is long gone, you will not lose ...
      ***

      The old God forgive me remembered how she went to kindergarten ...
    2. +3
      9 September 2022 17: 33
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      What is long gone, you will not lose ...

      They gladly left the Union, but they did not become "square", but they became "backbones" of the Anglo-Saxons. God is their witness.
    3. +2
      9 September 2022 18: 02
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      If Kyiv is the first to stop hostilities, then supposedly Ukraine will lose its state sovereignty

      ***
      - What is long gone, you will not lose ...
      ***

      Well, here comes the verdict.
      1. 0
        10 September 2022 00: 59
        Ukraine ..... will cease to exist. This was stated by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

        They need a big war in the east, that pig Stoltenberg would say so.
    4. +2
      9 September 2022 18: 13
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      - What is long gone, you will not lose ...

      This is a hint to Kyiv that if they surrender, Poland will be blessed for the annexation of the western regions, the eastern ones will go to Russia and the state of Ukraine will cease to exist within the established borders.
      1. +1
        9 September 2022 22: 47
        Quote: Canecat
        Poland will be blessed for the annexation of the western regions, the eastern ones will go to Russia and the state of Ukraine, will cease to exist within the established borders.

        Poland will receive Galicia, and Batko Lukashenka has his eye on Volhynia. These are the historical lands of the VK Lithuanian, i.e. Belarus. And the cities are named the same.
        Minsk, Pinsk, Lutsk.
        Grodno, Vilna, Rivne.
        1. 0
          10 September 2022 01: 01
          Nagant: Poland will receive Galicia .....

          She will get it in the teeth, not Galicia.
          1. 0
            10 September 2022 04: 31
            Quote: 4ekist
            Nagant: Poland will receive Galicia .....

            She will get it in the teeth, not Galicia.

            Are you sure that Russia needs hundreds of thousands, if not a million, of Galicians who are vehemently Russophobic? Until the 1950s, Stalin cleaned out the Bandera bastard, picked it out of caches, and despite the fact that the MGB was headed by Abakumov, who commanded the notorious SMERSH office during the war, and Beria himself supervised him through the party line. Wouldn't it be better to let the psheks clean up this crap?
    5. +7
      9 September 2022 18: 33
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      What is long gone, you will not lose ...

      But was it at all? 404 has never been self-sufficient, and was always looking for someone more profitable to lie under. The candidates are the Turkish Sultan, the Crimean Khan, the Polish Krul, and the Russian Tsar. Didn't forget anyone? So she staggered, like a girl with reduced social responsibility, between daddies, until Catherine the Great stopped these vacillations by a strong-willed decision, for which they now hate her fiercely. And 1991 was not the acquisition of statehood, but another reduction in social responsibility. So this misunderstanding "Independent Ukraine" is long overdue.
      1. -1
        9 September 2022 19: 13
        Quote: Nagan
        Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
        What is long gone, you will not lose ...

        But was it at all? 404 has never been self-sufficient, and was always looking for someone more profitable to lie under. The candidates are the Turkish Sultan, the Crimean Khan, the Polish Krul, and the Russian Tsar. Didn't forget anyone? So she staggered, like a girl with reduced social responsibility, between daddies, until Catherine the Great stopped these vacillations by a strong-willed decision, for which they now hate her fiercely. And 1991 was not the acquisition of statehood, but another reduction in social responsibility. So this misunderstanding "Independent Ukraine" is long overdue.

        They also wrote letters to the Turkish sultan, including non-diplomatic expressions there ... while guessing that the Russians would have to be responsible for this obscene language.
        I do not rule out that it will soon become clear that Nakhimov and Ushakov are the call signs of the correct ukroflot leaders who staunchly defended Sevastopol.
        1. 0
          9 September 2022 19: 59
          And you don't know? Nakhimov is Nakhimenko, this was stated in front of a blue eye.
        2. 0
          9 September 2022 22: 40
          Quote: platoon
          They also wrote letters to the Turkish Sultan, including non-diplomatic expressions there ...

          Got into a fight with one daddy, twirled with another. To whom did they give themselves? Polish krul or Russian tsar? They ran across so many times that I can’t remember, and that particular time I only remember that it was a letter with profanity, which, by the way, is characteristic of ladies with reduced social responsibility.
  2. +2
    9 September 2022 17: 10
    When will this talking head leave already? They say that Banderovka from Kaknada will be put in his place ...
    1. +2
      9 September 2022 17: 38
      Quote: isv000
      When will this talking head leave already? They say that Banderovka from Kaknada will be put in his place ...

      Oh, how many have already been named, and Dalia from Lithuania and Kaya from Estonia, and Teresa from Britain, and now from Canada. But very interesting, all the "stupid women". This alone says what "NATO Secretary General" is and what NATO itself is.
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  4. +3
    9 September 2022 17: 13
    The thought comes to me alone, it’s good that they started with Ukraine as a training, and not immediately with NATO, otherwise I only hear about the main trump card if we hit nuclear weapons. I would like to see the thoughts of the generals on the battlefield, and not radioactive ash.
    1. +3
      9 September 2022 17: 25
      It's not real. Let us have only Napoleons in the General Staff. Resources are not comparable.
      So just the whole world is in ruins!
  5. +3
    9 September 2022 17: 13
    they justify the war to the last Ukrainian!
  6. +4
    9 September 2022 17: 14
    Ukraine will disappear if you continue to fight with the people of Russia.
    NATO has entered into an armed battle with Russia using Ukraine... the situation is getting worse.
  7. HAM
    +11
    9 September 2022 17: 21
    Quite a strange logic: if he doesn’t fight, he will disappear, and if he fights, he will be safe and sound ?? ... he will soon disappear if he fights ..
    Some crazy logic...
    1. +6
      9 September 2022 17: 26
      Many years ago we were warned that the West would use Ukraine as a battering ram against us... and now this moment has come... The moment of truth.
      And now the outcome of this battle depends only on us.
    2. +2
      9 September 2022 17: 27
      This Monsieur knows a lot about perversions.
  8. +12
    9 September 2022 17: 22
    Ukraine has, one might say, disappeared. This is no longer Ukraine, but ukroreich. From a flourishing, prosperous country, it turned into a terrorist state with the supremacy of Nazi ideology.
    1. +2
      9 September 2022 17: 28
      Yes, they are already painting Wehrmacht crosses on their armored vehicles - Balkenkreuz. They even scored on their tridents. Saloreich and only.

      PS And the Western "partners" at point-blank range "do not see" any symbols and signs of Nazism until now. Paradox. And a mockery of common sense.
      1. +1
        10 September 2022 09: 27
        Quote: Nexcom
        PS And the Western "partners" at point-blank range "do not see" any symbols and signs of Nazism until now. Paradox. And a mockery of common sense.


        So these "partners" are the Nazis, the children of the colonialists. During the USSR, they simply hid it because they were afraid, but now it’s openly. These symbols and signs are with their approval.
  9. +4
    9 September 2022 17: 25
    And if it does not stop, then the Ukrainians will disappear. however, in the West they have already said more than once that there will be a war until the last Ukrainian.
  10. +3
    9 September 2022 17: 26
    It will disappear if it does not stop fighting with Russia.
  11. +3
    9 September 2022 17: 26
    Ukraine has already disappeared as soon as the rulers tried to cause hatred for Russia, and even more so to fight. The clinic is obvious. History is not taught or they want to forget.
    1. +1
      9 September 2022 17: 33
      Quote from skeptic
      Ukraine has already disappeared as soon as the rulers tried to cause hatred for Russia, and even more so to fight

      Oh, how excited Stoltenberg was! All "investments" will be lost. Yes! Ukraine will disappear, the Little Russian province will be. And this is absolutely true.
  12. +3
    9 September 2022 17: 30
    I came to my senses. Ukraine no longer exists (as a state). The US will disappear if it stops fighting.
  13. +4
    9 September 2022 17: 30
    This is the open Anglo-Saxon thirst for Slavic blood. And the ruins will still not be !!!
  14. +1
    9 September 2022 17: 31
    If Ukraine stops fighting against Russia, it will cease to exist. This was stated by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

    And if the EU continues to support Nazism, then Stoltenberg himself, together with NATO, will end up like Hitler and his pack.
  15. GNM
    +3
    9 September 2022 17: 31
    Ukraine must fight with Russia, this is the only reason for its existence for the "collective West"

    1. +4
      9 September 2022 17: 35
      And the poster is so similar to those that the Ministry of Propaganda stamped for the Wehrmacht. And it was distributed in the occupied territories of the USSR. Even the Galician lion was not forgotten. One cant. In the hands of the invader, the Moskal communist "Kalash", and not the orthodox American M-16.
      1. +2
        9 September 2022 17: 37
        Tilka why are Svidomo painting the Moskal Kalash on their little ones??? Svidomo M16 was used to mistu. laughing Isn't it dumb for them to fight with Kalash?
        A cisso defect. laughing
        The form, helmets, faces - correspond. But Kalash - nooo .... laughing
        1. +2
          9 September 2022 17: 41
          And that sho and ours and yours in psychology remained. Tse Europe, but we will attach ourselves to the achievements of the Union and the Russian Empire. And we will declare all talented and influential people to the heap as Ukrainians. There is no history of its own. Historians even invented Kievan Rus in the 19th century, and fixed it in textbooks in the 20th. For the convenience of designating a short period when the capital was in Kyiv.
          1. -1
            9 September 2022 17: 47
            Yes, I realized that Mikhailo Timofeevich was a secret Ukrainian. Yeah. lol
            And apparently he used fat at night so as not to sleep in front of the Muscovites. wassat
            1. +1
              9 September 2022 17: 48
              But without understanding the wines, I didn’t even guess laughing
        2. -4
          9 September 2022 17: 50
          Refinement. The poster is designed for us, it hits us, not Svidomo. Our non-brother with M 16 will not touch us.
          But with Kalash it will cause a storm of feelings. This is the reason to separate us so that we forget our relationship.
          1. +1
            9 September 2022 17: 57
            Cool relatives we get - they cripple, kill brutally, burn ours (it seems even alive). Children of old women are not spared. Nah such relatives - I'd rather be an orphan.
            1. -1
              9 September 2022 18: 04
              Quote: Nexcom
              mutilate, kill brutally, burn our (it seems even alive)

              This is what propaganda is designed for so that we think so.
              1. 0
                9 September 2022 18: 07
                Are you saying that it doesn't? Knees too did not shoot through? Burials of civilians with broken heads - fake? Mutilated bodies in the form of military personnel of the Russian Federation - probably dummies?
                1. -3
                  9 September 2022 18: 15
                  Of course. Can you offer links to what you're talking about?
                  1. +1
                    9 September 2022 18: 18
                    this was full in the VO cart. and everyone saw it. Do you seriously think that I collect and save such a guro? I am not a necrophile. if not laziness - look for yourself on the TG channel VO.

                    wow, understandable. came. tsipso tightened up
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              2. +1
                9 September 2022 18: 14
                We thought? So the heroes themselves shoot and upload videos of how they mock our captured guys, and the civilian, who was suspected of sympathy for Russia.
                1. 0
                  9 September 2022 18: 16
                  So what am I talking about?
        3. 0
          9 September 2022 18: 05
          Misto in Sumerian means city. And they have a misplaced place.
          1. 0
            9 September 2022 18: 07
            I am not Ukrainian. That's why I'm wrong in their move. Yeah, I don't really know her either. I spent a long time in Skadovsk as a child - I remember a little how they balaked there.
            1. -2
              9 September 2022 19: 33
              Me too. It’s just that when the series was watched alone, everyone speaks Russian there, and the subtitles are in Ukrainian.
              1. 0
                9 September 2022 19: 38
                Ide OK such subtitles drive? Are you from there?
                1. -2
                  9 September 2022 22: 50
                  In the series that were made in Kyiv. Or did you not know that until 2014 Russian directors preferred to shoot in Kyiv because it was cheaper there? And for attracting local actors even a discount.
      2. GNM
        +1
        9 September 2022 17: 49
        Yes, it is torn off from German, I didn’t save the original, I can’t find it.
        1. +2
          9 September 2022 17: 52
          their mind is only "creatively" torn from the original.
  16. +2
    9 September 2022 17: 35
    ""... If Ukraine ceases to conduct military operations against Russia, it will cease to exist. ...""
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    Bravo .... Where does 3.14 Western leaders have so much caveman cynicism in relation to Russia ??? How are they different from Hitler??? Rather, NATA will perish to hell if it doesn’t stop helping the mentally inadequate leaders of Ukraine ... It’s just a human pity for the beautiful people of Ukraine .... Poor Ukraine - in whose hands did you end up because of your stupidity ...?
    1. +2
      9 September 2022 17: 43
      Get up Russia is huge, get up for a mortal battle .....
  17. +2
    9 September 2022 17: 39
    expected. War to the last Ukrainian.
  18. +3
    9 September 2022 17: 48
    Stoltenberg is an idiot, the ruin will disappear anyway.
    1. 0
      9 September 2022 19: 43
      Quote: Ros 56
      Stoltenberg is an idiot, the ruin will disappear anyway.

      She is no more .. And she will not be!
  19. +3
    9 September 2022 18: 01

    Since 1865, nothing has changed in relation to Russia.
  20. +1
    9 September 2022 18: 17
    That's where she belongs. The statements and actions of Ukrainian leaders, politicians and even diplomats indicate that this nation is incurably, terminally ill. And the only way to save these people from destruction is to disband it.
  21. +1
    9 September 2022 18: 34
    The stump is clear, it will stop.
    Our troops will go further, fulfill all declared and undeclared goals, and that's all, kirdyk Ukraine.
    Maybe there will be some kind of bitterness at the beginning, but not for long.
  22. 0
    9 September 2022 18: 45
    Not if but when
  23. +1
    9 September 2022 19: 02
    The hypocrisy is unbearable to listen to. Do they think that they will really be allowed into our country?
  24. +1
    9 September 2022 19: 40
    Ukraine will disappear if it stops fighting with Russia

    She disappeared after the burning of the house of trade unions in Odessa!
  25. 0
    9 September 2022 19: 45
    For some reason, no one in the West was worried about the disappearance of Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, the USSR, the GDR ..
    And then suddenly they got worried...
    What is it for?
  26. 0
    9 September 2022 19: 57
    If Ukraine stops fighting against Russia, it will cease to exist. This was stated by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

    What a quick-witted one, not even half a year has passed, but they pushed you to show off when you thought about what place?
  27. 0
    9 September 2022 20: 33
    Quote: Nagan
    Didn’t forget anyone?

    The German boot was also eager to lick. Or maybe it was not a boot at all ...
  28. 0
    9 September 2022 21: 56
    Ukraine, like the concept of Ukrainianness, must disappear.
    Only the Kyiv province should remain under the Moscow protectorate.
  29. 0
    9 September 2022 23: 12
    Stormy fantasy according to Jens Stoltenberg never ceases to amaze. I would like to add that Russians eat ice cream in the winter (and even in winter, in any climatic conditions) on the street (or indoors). Milk, chocolate, vanilla, as well as fruit (sometimes with vegetables) depends on taste preferences. Complete freedom of desire and choice. feel bully recourse
  30. 0
    11 September 2022 12: 18
    You at least a link to the original article, let's ....