Armed Forces of Ukraine approached Grushevka near Kupyansk: the moment of truth for the Russian command

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Armed Forces of Ukraine approached Grushevka near Kupyansk: the moment of truth for the Russian command

Alarming and at the same time contradictory reports continue to come from the Kharkov region. In the Ukrainian segment of the network, “overwhelm” reigns after the appearance of a photo from Balakleya with a Ukrainian flag over the administrative building, as well as after a short video from Volokhov Yar, where two Ukrainian special forces are present when the “zhovto-blakyt” is raised.

In this situation, it can be stated that the advance of the Ukrainian troops at the pace of hostilities that have become characteristic in recent months is quite impressive. This is more than 45 km from the positions where the Armed Forces of Ukraine were located three days ago.




Raising the Ukrainian flag in the village of Volokhov Yar


At the same time, a pattern that has become familiar to the Ukrainian troops in recent years is also traced. Promotion is actually on one vector. In this case, along the direction of Balakleya - Kupyansk. The advanced assault detachments of the Ukrainian armed forces have already advanced to the village of Grushevka, which is literally a few kilometers from Kupyansk. There were fights. Earlier, we recall, the evacuation of the population began from Kupyansk, which in the case when the picture “They did not wait ...” would have looked very strange. It turns out that they expected the growth of danger, respectively, and understood where the enemy would move.



In this situation, the Ukrainian troops entered the defense of the RF Armed Forces in the indicated direction in an extremely narrow wedge, stretching at least (as already noted) for 45 km.

From a tactical point of view, the Ukrainian forces now have very little time to consolidate their success. To do this, they need to bring reserves into battle, including saturating the Balakleya-Kupyansk direction with armored vehicles with active support from artillery. If this is not done in the next XNUMX hours, then the media success achieved by the Armed Forces of Ukraine may be nullified even at the same media level (with flags hanging) - as in the Kherson region.

In the language of sports commentators, "at the moment the ball is in the Russian half of the field." In terms of the promotion carried out by the Ukrainian troops, the “goal” was missed. The enemy, inspired by the success of hoisting flags over several settlements and, in general, a beautiful picture for the gathering in Ramstein and for Blinken, who arrived in Kyiv, as they say, rushes to the attack. For the Russian command in this regard, the moment of truth is coming: without being subjected to a fever, do what virtually any army would do in such a situation - leave the enemy flying to attack without a chance to saturate the line of attack with truly serious forces and means, cut off the supply, which, it is necessary to repeat, it goes along an extremely narrow strip of territory, and, leaving without artillery support, calmly finish off - nullify all those assault groups that were tens of kilometers deep in our defense.

And the next day or two will give an answer to the question of whether the enemy will turn the media success into a real military success, or will he repeat his “Kherson scenario”, when the offensive is not so much for the result, but for the sake of a picture for Kyiv to report to foreign sponsors.
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  1. +29
    8 September 2022 19: 24
    Tin. Well, if this is a trap for the APU ...
    1. +60
      8 September 2022 19: 25
      smells like a rout, not a trap
      1. +63
        8 September 2022 19: 29
        Defeat - definitely not, but shame - yes. Shame on our mediocre generals.
        1. +19
          8 September 2022 19: 31
          Balakleya is already writing everything.
          This is a failure. You have to put out the fire.
          1. +17
            8 September 2022 19: 37
            And where is the 3rd corps, armed with modern weapons? In what direction?
            1. +7
              8 September 2022 19: 41
              write a letter to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, maybe they will answer
            2. +5
              8 September 2022 20: 05
              Nobody thinks as slowly as our generals. Already five times reinforcements could be transferred there to the border of nothing. But no, they are waiting for something. It's like in the movie "good weather on Deribasovskaya"
            3. 0
              10 September 2022 07: 47
              Did you mean "Wenck's army"?))
          2. +6
            8 September 2022 19: 42
            Balakleya is already writing everything.

            They write different things, apparently still not all.
            You have to put out the fire.

            Definitely. But no matter how much has not been decided yet, the next couple of days will show what's what.
            1. +7
              8 September 2022 19: 50
              forward detachments of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kupyansk, it’s not clear to wait, you still need to meet, and not to drape
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                1. +3
                  9 September 2022 12: 59
                  Yeah, they're queuing for tickets....
                2. +1
                  10 September 2022 15: 52
                  Quote: Artem Simakov
                  they can't leave now

                  Are the routes busy?
            2. +1
              8 September 2022 20: 07
              That's all. Ours are seriously fucked up. Friends who are silent near Kharkov do not get in touch. I hope everything is ok with them.
              1. +2
                9 September 2022 14: 10
                Stop panicking. Please
                1. -2
                  10 September 2022 15: 55
                  Quote: Geo73
                  Stop panicking. Please

                  Why panic then? To the Russian border, still far ... or what?
            3. +44
              8 September 2022 20: 13
              Apparently it is not possible to fight half-heartedly. Here you have to choose either biathlon games, or successful military operations. Full concentration and mobilization is needed to achieve success. Or, it just won't.
              1. +9
                8 September 2022 22: 23
                I agree. The god of war does not like when they try to deceive him and viciously take revenge ...
                1. -1
                  10 September 2022 15: 56
                  Quote: Bayun
                  The god of war does not like when they try to deceive him and viciously take revenge ...

                  Sending messengers?
            4. -4
              8 September 2022 20: 27
              Quote: alexmach
              They write different

              )))
              Miscellaneous.
              Including about automatic shooting in Kupyansk.
              1. -16
                8 September 2022 20: 33
                Quote: Negro
                Including about automatic shooting in Kupyansk

                NYT? wink laughing
          3. -3
            8 September 2022 20: 49
            also write on the fence. While fighting, for the Armed Forces of Ukraine the western part with the administration, for our eastern
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          3. +13
            9 September 2022 12: 09
            Why not enough? Because basically careerists, opportunists and thieves creep into the generals.
        3. +56
          8 September 2022 19: 37
          Quote: Nickelium
          Shame on our mediocre generals.

          It is possible to relate to Strelkov in different ways, but his assessment of the conduct of the SVO as a whole coincides with reality.
          1. -50
            8 September 2022 19: 42
            Oh, but Girkin is not needed here, please. This genius scrambled from near Slavyansk, and then generally screwed up to Moscow while Givi and Motorola fought with their last strength.
            1. +43
              8 September 2022 19: 48
              Girkin took Slavyansk with an army of homeless people, but the second army of the world did not
              1. +5
                8 September 2022 19: 54
                And that Slavyansk was a fortified area like today?
              2. +5
                8 September 2022 20: 33
                Quote from Rorshah
                Girkin took Slavyansk with an army of homeless people

                Have you seen these "homeless"? And I, I saw .... All the current fighters would be such "homeless people" .... There would be no shame near Kharkov.
            2. +36
              8 September 2022 21: 29
              Strelkov had one tank in Slavyansk, and that one was yesterday's monument from the pedestal, without shells. And against him - about a hundred Ukrainian tanks. "Drapal", damn it. Miraculously, he saved the garrison from destruction, which later became the basis of the Armed Forces of the DPR.
            3. +12
              9 September 2022 15: 29
              Strelkov led the remnants of equipment and people out of the boiler in Slavyansk. Or would it be better for them all to die there, surrounded?
            4. +2
              10 September 2022 16: 00
              Quote: Nickelium
              This genius draped from under Slavyansk,

              Can you tell me at what balance of forces he retreated and with what weapons he opposed?
          2. +58
            8 September 2022 19: 46
            He was right from the very beginning, and all his predictions that he gave in March are still coming true, there was an order for bots to poison him everywhere, they even made memes, people who are nothing like anyone called him names, and now after 7 months of SVO we see what is the General Staff and the leadership of the country, impotent
            1. +33
              8 September 2022 20: 13
              I agree. Only on TV they show how good everything is. But in fact they have us in the tail and mane. Strelkov was right about almost everything
            2. -14
              8 September 2022 21: 15
              For example, he says in the same words as the Armed Forces of Ukraine that the Kherson strike was a distraction, in the puzzle he is asked for whom he is, and for whom then are you?
              I heard a lot of predictions from him over 8 years, none of them came true.
              1. +6
                9 September 2022 00: 13
                Right now, but it comes true every month. And you, too, are offended by Strelkov for not dying in Slavyansk, but being able to withdraw troops and organize the defense of Donetsk. There, without him, Zakharchenko and Khodakovsky, using the example of the Ukrainian soldiers, called each other names and suspected everything. And Strelkov, like that forester from the joke, came and dispersed this circus, creating a single command.
                1. +3
                  9 September 2022 19: 41
                  If you read above, I just highly appreciated his actions in Slavyansk and I consider his departure a brilliant undertaking. Once again, who did not understand, I have no complaints about him as a commander at that time - no.
                  My claims to him as a failed politician.
                  1. 0
                    9 September 2022 22: 22
                    Quote: Alexander Salenko
                    I have no complaints about him as a commander at that time - no.
                    My claims to him as a failed politician.

                    I support your position on Strelkov completely. However, it became hot in VO. TsIPSO threw all its reserves for a breakthrough. drinks
                  2. +2
                    10 September 2022 16: 07
                    Quote: Alexander Salenko
                    My claims to him as a failed politician.

                    Zhukov, as a politician, also failed ... so what? Nobody kicks a dead dog. Because she is nothing. Have you ever wondered why a person who does not hold a single post is still being beaten? And they are afraid to let him go to the front, what if he starts to beat and eclipse the SUVs?
                  3. +2
                    10 September 2022 16: 31
                    And what are the claims against him as a politician? Did he steal? Did he betray someone? Did he call for something bad? No, I know about his crisp bakery, but I don’t blame him - he deserved this jamb in his characterization for himself. But if you choose an opponent in politics from this spectrum, then let him be better than the rear admirers of gnilin and perdyaev
                2. -3
                  10 September 2022 09: 43
                  Why are you even scribbling a weirdo? Your "great commander"-adventurer almost surrendered the entire Donbass. The surrender of Slavyansk was only one episode, he signed a bunch of orders to surrender the Donbass agglomeration, the same Gorlovka that Bezler defended, spitting on the orders of Girkin, whom he arrested for cowardice and cowardice. Say thanks to Girkin's old friend Borodai, thanks to whom Girkin crap himself in the Crimea and ended up in the Donbass, he begged Bezler for a week to release the "great commander" who was under arrest in his bath, and if not for Borodai and him the authority that sent the "commander of all times and peoples" to the very border of the Russian Federation, which would have ended for Girkin. case they will send you three letters, at worst they will take you away in an ambulance.
              2. -7
                9 September 2022 12: 24
                It's amazing how reasonable people diligently inflate Napoleon from the "Napoleon"!
            3. -2
              8 September 2022 21: 30
              Briefly and clearly. Plus.
          3. +46
            8 September 2022 20: 13
            I have been following Strelkov's speeches and articles for a long time. Well, he's right. For the most part in all their predictions. He is very reasoned. But most importantly, it is his predictions that come true, and not such idiots like Barants. He is right in assessing the very low command and human qualities of Himself. Rights in the assessment of lampasnikov. Yes, this is a bunch of careerists, sycophants, cowards. Only with such qualities in the army can one grow to a general. Well, even if dad or mom is a general. Yes, they will not be able to wage war. They didn't make a career out of it. They are not defending their homeland - they are making a career. They piss on frogs, but they will not make an independent decision. Strelkov has been calling out to everyone for more than a month now: Look what these idiots are doing. They gnaw at the frontal defense - do they have an order for corpses? Well, at least some original military idea will be born in their stupid heads? Looks like no. We are losing the war with all the trump cards in our hands.
            1. +12
              9 September 2022 03: 19
              Quote: Alexey_Kalashnikov
              Well, at least some original military idea will be born in their stupid heads? Looks like no. We are losing the war with all the trump cards in our hands.

              The problem is that professionals are not allowed to take the first roles. Everyone understands that in a normal army, Shoigu could only be Gerasimov's adjutant. NASA would not even entrust a journalist with ordinary design work, even if he had all his relatives, exclusively US presidents and directors of the FBI .. Strelkov showed himself to be a professional by neutralizing the entire offensive resource of the most efficient Ukrainian units for a couple of months. However, he is banished to the margins of public and military activities. At one time, the defeat of Athens during the Peloponnesian War was due in many ways to the fact that its most talented military leaders fell victim to the political squabbles of the local politicians. Remember the story of Admiral Alcibiades and the strategists executed for imaginary blasphemy after their brilliant victory at the Arginus Islands.
            2. +15
              9 September 2022 15: 34
              All Strelkov’s fault is that he refused to sing praises to Putin, and directly called a spade a spade. He directly said that Donbass was sold and who did it also said. , for not letting his people be destroyed in the Slavic cauldron and he himself did not die there.
            3. +1
              9 September 2022 18: 12
              You are right...unfortunately.
          4. +13
            8 September 2022 20: 18
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            It is possible to relate to Strelkov in different ways, but his assessment of the conduct of the SVO as a whole coincides with reality.

            hi Probably the only source where frank noodles are not hung.
        4. -15
          8 September 2022 19: 42
          Mishanded Cossack, stop sowing panic, go to your own and savor it there, but don’t forget about Kherson, it will be the same in Kharkiv region! (((
        5. -1
          11 September 2022 00: 09
          It seems that there were mostly musicians and fighters of the LPR in that area. Only this can explain a powerful breakthrough. They simply did not have enough heavy weapons to stop the threat. And now they began to urgently pull up this powerful weapon there.
      2. +25
        8 September 2022 19: 33
        Quote: Vitaliy161
        smells like a rout, not a trap

        Flashed infa that the Ukrainian military came out of Kharkov, on the offensive. If Balakleya and Izyum are a lure, then soon we will know the name of another Strategist Hero. And the guys would not forget that they stood there to death ...
        1. -1
          9 September 2022 12: 14
          To Belgorod?
          1. +4
            9 September 2022 12: 18
            Quote: Alexander_Dneprovsky
            To Belgorod?

            Nah, to Constanta...
      3. +6
        8 September 2022 19: 40
        Quote: Vitaliy161
        smells like a rout, not a trap

        I wonder who is in command of our troops in this direction?
        1. +4
          8 September 2022 19: 43
          I hope he will no longer command anything, nor when
        2. +11
          8 September 2022 19: 44
          Lieutenant General Lapin, like
          Commander of the Central District
          1. +6
            8 September 2022 19: 53
            Lieutenant General Lapin

            On July 4, 2022, by decree of the President of Russia, he was awarded the title of Hero of the Russian Federation
            1. +10
              8 September 2022 20: 00
              Quite right - he is the most
          2. -6
            8 September 2022 19: 55
            such are not sunk ska
          3. -1
            8 September 2022 20: 01
            Quote: Krasnodar

            Lieutenant General Lapin,

            So he's in the south. There are 2 directions - Donbass, and Kherson. And the North (Sumy-Kharkov) who is there?
            1. +6
              8 September 2022 20: 02
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              So he's in the south.

              He is the commander of the Central District, he received the Star of the Hero for Lisichansk (I think), logically, the Kharkov region is in his competence
          4. +1
            8 September 2022 20: 16
            Well, at least now we know who's in charge. I asked about this about ten days ago, but then they answered that for family reasons it was dangerous to name commanders. I mean, I was asking about the Kherson Front, which has defended brilliantly so far. . It seems that Lapin's decisive hour has come. I saw the profile of the general, his photo, it inspires confidence.
            1. +1
              8 September 2022 20: 24
              Quote from Carlos Sala
              I asked about the Kherson Front

              Commander of the Southern Military District - Colonel General Dvornikov
              1. +2
                8 September 2022 20: 30
                Dvornikov, the one from Syria, is very good. Excellent defense in Kherson. I think Lapin will be able to stop them in Kharkov. If suddenly there was a disaster in Kharkov, God forbid, if the front fell then it's time to call Mizintsev
                1. +2
                  8 September 2022 20: 36
                  There are a lot of factors here. More than a commander.
          5. +1
            8 September 2022 21: 16
            Hero of Russia, just a talent!
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            1. +2
              9 September 2022 04: 29
              As for a quick deal - I don’t think
              It is not beneficial to anyone
            2. -5
              9 September 2022 04: 56
              Where does a "quick deal" come from? With the current setup, capturing the rest of the Donetsk Oblast (DNR) will take many months. This is if suddenly the enemy stops strengthening. Although why would?
      4. +7
        8 September 2022 19: 47
        Confirmed from the cart - Balakleya was handed over
        1. +13
          8 September 2022 20: 19
          Quote: dmi.pris
          Balakleya handed over

          A chat has already been created in Balakliya, where they post the data of people who collaborated with the Russian administration. Looks like a big crackdown.
          And there will be Bucha number 2. And the first will seem an administrative offense, compared with the second.
          1. +1
            8 September 2022 20: 39
            And who is posting the data is the one who did not cooperate?
            1. 0
              8 September 2022 21: 36
              Well, where could the local cells of the pro-government party go? "Woke up", and away we go...
            2. -1
              9 September 2022 15: 38
              Yes, all the same ones are spreading who yesterday collaborated with the Russians and swore eternal fidelity and friendship. These are Ukrainians, now they will knock on each other for distillation.
      5. -1
        8 September 2022 21: 34
        And no one up there wants to show "good will", as it has happened more than once? Dobryachki, there they are in the swing.
      6. +2
        10 September 2022 04: 46
        It smells like a complete lack of technical intelligence. There is a lot of video where the Ukrainians are transferring in the daytime, on a sunny clear day, Himers, tank units. motorized infantry, artillery. Moreover, armored vehicles are rushing in hefty columns. So what? What are the conclusions? Or again, how to send reconnaissance groups behind enemy lines during the Second World War?
        When the Americans tore Yugoslavia, when they hollowed out Iraq, they hung their satellites over them, created such a schedule for their flight that they did not leave the entire territory of the country without control for a second. They worked out a new tactic for using aviation, the pilot received a mission in the air for newly reconnoitered targets. Air or artillery strike time decreased to 5 minutes from the moment the target was detected.
        Where are our companions???!!!
        The Americans, first of all, reconnoitred air defense systems and knocked them out by all possible means, within a couple of days they left the Iraqis without radar, any air defense of the air defense system turned into shelling. In the NMD, our aviation does not risk crossing the front line, the main blow called to that steppe, that is, NURSs are launched from the nose-up towards the enemy.
        Why is that? Unclear.
        1. +2
          10 September 2022 04: 49
          Here is Sladkov's video about equipping our soldiers

          https://ok.ru/video/3786012166784

          disgrace.
    2. -3
      8 September 2022 20: 53
      Whether this is a trap will become clear in the next 24 hours. Then the attacking wedge of the Ukrainian troops remains very long and extended. I've been talking about this for two days now in other discussions. Now is the time for heavy bombardments. Including napalm. Of course, not in settlements, but only in concentrations of troops and marching columns. Without the use of the heaviest weapons, the few Allied troops will not be able to hold the overstretched front.
      Now the attacking wedge must be destroyed after a heavy bombardment and a subsequent attack on the flanks of the wedge. However, if this does not happen now, then the question is what are the real intentions of the allied leadership.
      1. +3
        9 September 2022 20: 23
        Quote from Harold
        Whether this is a trap will become clear in the next 24 hours.

        24 hours have passed. What became clear?
        1. +1
          9 September 2022 22: 19
          [quote=Sofkar]24 Stunden sind vergangen. Was it wurde?/ Quote]
          At the moment there are too few of them. The transfer of reserves from Chechnya, and now from other sectors of the front, indicates that there are not enough reserves nearby.
          Again you read about the heavy losses of Ukrainian units, as well as numerous air strikes by the Russian Air Force. But I have yet to see any photograph showing these area bombings and especially the firebombing all over the area. On the contrary, night shots were taken, which show how Ukrainian troops allegedly retreat to their original positions after an unsuccessful attack. The troops were more than a platoon, that is, about a company. That's exactly what I mean. It was necessary to immediately carry out a fire bombardment of these starting positions. Total annihilation, not elaborate artillery bombardment with explosive ordnance.
    3. -6
      9 September 2022 00: 59
      "Well, if this is a trap for the APU ..." Of course! What else could it be? lol
  2. +2
    8 September 2022 19: 27
    this is how to leave the rear and infrastructure untouched by the power of the headquarters command! and yes, it’s probably more difficult to storm than to defend!
    1. +34
      8 September 2022 19: 40
      Notice the difference how and what forces defended Mariupol and how long it held out and how and what forces defended Balakleya and how long it lasted. It immediately becomes clear who has the war and who has the SVO.
  3. GNM
    -23
    8 September 2022 19: 28
    not so much for the sake of the result, but for the sake of a picture for Kyiv to report to foreign sponsors.

    They raised the flag over the sidewalk - you can go back home, as with a border post.
    All this was started to report to the owners, who are currently hanging out in Ramstein, and tomorrow - even if the grass does not grow - those who survive will run back.
  4. +19
    8 September 2022 19: 29
    In this situation, the Ukrainian troops entered the defense of the RF Armed Forces in the indicated direction in an extremely narrow wedge, stretching at least (as already noted) for 45 km.

    Somewhere like this already happened, in -14, when they tried to get to the Russian border all the way, then their appendix was cut off and chopped into pieces. God willing, and here it will be similar, but not to rush and not to delay ...
    1. +6
      8 September 2022 20: 11
      May it not be so this time, then their army and motivation were completely different.
      Now it will be "its goals will be achieved."
      1. +2
        8 September 2022 20: 26
        Quote from: newtc7
        May it not be so this time, then their army and motivation were completely different.
        Now it will be "its goals will be achieved."

        You have to believe in your army, even if it's the autumn of 1941...
        1. 0
          10 September 2022 10: 43
          I believe in the army, but in the leadership .... Our guys will do everything they can, but there aren’t enough of them there, it seems ... At the exercises, apparently, people turned out to be more needed.
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  5. +46
    8 September 2022 19: 29
    I wonder how long they will fight off Balakleya, which they lost in three days. The old Saltov near Kharkov, which was lost at the beginning of the operation, has not yet been recaptured. How do they even advance with our air superiority.
    1. +1
      8 September 2022 19: 42
      Our forces are represented by the Russian Guards and LDNR from the mobilized. Numerically, they are much inferior. Do you think that aviation will decide radically? From the cart it is clear that German self-propelled guns and five brigades went on the offensive.
      1. +1
        8 September 2022 19: 54
        Modern aviation carries more bombs than the heavy bombers of World War II. These bombs are adjustable. It is logical to concentrate a couple of hundred aircraft and bomb until the complete destruction of all brigades and German self-propelled guns.
        1. +32
          8 September 2022 20: 04
          What adjustable bombs?! in our VSK this is a rare beast, only for exercises, parades and TV pictures, and so, on the battlefield of the FAB and NAR from the cabriolet!
          1. +12
            8 September 2022 20: 10
            Quote: Ru_Na
            What adjustable bombs?! in our VSK this is a rare beast, only for exercises, parades and TV pictures, and so, on the battlefield of the FAB and NAR from the cabriolet!

            well then, a big F is planned so they have air defense with them
    2. Eug
      +10
      8 September 2022 20: 10
      There are forests there, the effectiveness of aviation is low, but that’s why they didn’t bomb out during concentration, especially fuel and lubricants ... probably because the air defense of the ZSU was far from destroyed ...
    3. +17
      8 September 2022 20: 12
      And it is also interesting why they keep the cities so well, and we are losing so quickly.
      1. +4
        8 September 2022 22: 45
        For 5 (1917-1922) years, the Bolsheviks turned Russian Soviet newspapers and radio into newspapers.

        With TV and the Internet for 30 years, 100% of Ukrainian ones were blinded from Soviet ones.

        With WAR, jokes are bad. The god of war does not like non-military tricks.
    4. -26
      8 September 2022 20: 28
      Quote from Gpn27
      I wonder how long they will fight off Balakleya, which they lost in three days.

      Who said that Balakleya is lost?! For spreading fakes and under the article, you can ride ...
      1. +5
        8 September 2022 21: 38
        Take a ride on the article of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which upload videos. What's the problem then?
        1. -10
          8 September 2022 21: 46
          Quote from invisible_man
          Take a ride on the article of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which upload videos. What's the problem then?

          I have never seen such a revelry of ragul gilts in VO! ..
          1. +6
            9 September 2022 00: 21
            Tell me, acca from Latin letters and Arabic zeros, what is the strength? It's true, right? And if so, then read what is printed. and not waving articles of the Criminal Code. Our crap is a fact. It can and will get out, that's just how much it will cost. And no ... why shield the General Staff here.
            1. -9
              9 September 2022 12: 24
              Quote: znavel
              Tell me, acca from Latin letters and Arabic zeros, what is the strength? It's true, right? And if so, then read what is printed. and not waving articles of the Criminal Code. Our crap is a fact. It can and will get out, that's just how much it will cost. And no ... why shield the General Staff here.

              It will be interesting to see the absence of squeals of gilts in the VO after the complete defeat of the "advanceers", when all the braziers near Kharkov will be filled with fresh boars!
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              3. 0
                29 September 2022 23: 54
                When will you kill the brazier with boars near Kharkov? Do you still believe in our General Staff? We are talking about the surrender of the Red Liman.
                1. 0
                  29 September 2022 23: 58
                  Quote: znavel
                  When will you kill the brazier with boars near Kharkov? Do you still believe in our General Staff? We are talking about the surrender of the Red Liman.

                  belay Figasse you give coke there !!! I got back three weeks later! Estonian? belay
                  1. -1
                    7 October 2022 00: 16
                    Unlike copters, many people do not have so much time to hang in the internet. And what about the case? Is there a lot of conviction or is the brain already turned on?)))
  6. Is2
    +8
    8 September 2022 19: 30
    Weszli 45 km a Rosyjskie dowództwo śpi czy to może brak kompetencji albo co gorsze sabotaz
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    2. +1
      8 September 2022 20: 42
      Yes, what sabotage ... overslept, cabinet rats
    3. -2
      9 September 2022 12: 21
      Quote: Is2
      Weszli 45 km a Rosyjskie dowództwo śpi czy to może brak kompetencji albo co gorsze sabotaz

      Don't doggy here, please...
      1. -2
        9 September 2022 12: 25
        Quote: isv000
        No need here on a dog

        This is on a snake ... psheki request
  7. +35
    8 September 2022 19: 31
    45 km in three days. Moreover, in the direction, which even in the telegram channels was spoken of as where the Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing a strike. This is not stupidity, this is betrayal.
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    2. -19
      8 September 2022 20: 29
      Quote: Boris Sergeev
      45 km in three days. Moreover, in the direction, which even in the telegram channels was spoken of as where the Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing a strike. This is not stupidity, this is betrayal.

      I wonder if they read your comment in the NKVD?
      1. +7
        8 September 2022 21: 13
        do you want to take it to where?
        1. -7
          8 September 2022 22: 40
          otsustwe donosa = posobnicestwo tak bylo wowremja NKWD
          1. +2
            9 September 2022 12: 29
            set the keyboard to normal, patriot
    3. +2
      8 September 2022 20: 52
      Mikhail Stepanovich Zusko Lieutenant General
      Born May 24, 1972 in the village Vetly, Volyn region, Ukraine.
      Chief of Staff of the Russian group of troops (forces) "West"
      Interesting.
      1. -4
        8 September 2022 22: 18
        Quote from lets-true
        Mikhail Stepanovich Zusko Lieutenant General
        Born May 24, 1972 in the village Vetly, Volyn region, Ukraine.
        Chief of Staff of the Russian group of troops (forces) "West"
        Interesting.

        hi It was business. Fucked up. For that, I have been asking for forgiveness for a long time. People have forgiven, hell no...
  8. +24
    8 September 2022 19: 32
    Played out in white and fluffy. For half a year, they chewed snot and got it.
    1. +8
      8 September 2022 19: 40
      The blind man said - we will see, the deaf man said - we will hear. Let's see how it ends.
    2. +1
      8 September 2022 19: 45
      well, if this is just an ordinary bungling, but something tells me that this is an ordinary ordinary TREASON
      1. +7
        8 September 2022 20: 14
        No, it would be better to change. Better one cunning traitor than a herd of dull ones has achieved among the command. But there is hardly a betrayal here, it’s just that there are people sitting in headquarters who have their own opinion on everything that happens and a lot of burdensome conventions in the form of an ancient education, inability to use a computer and gigantic arrogance.
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  9. -10
    8 September 2022 19: 32
    At the beginning of October 1941, in a similar scenario, the Headquarters recalled Comrade from St. Petersburg (Leningrad). Zhukova G.K. in order to find the man who led the defense of the capital.
    1. +17
      8 September 2022 19: 40
      In 1941, the charter of the Red Army was in force prescribing a continuous line of defense, Zhukov near Moscow simply calculated the places of probable strikes and concentrated troops in these directions, although there were areas where there were practically no troops, but the future Marshal of Victory calculated everything correctly. It is a pity that there are no generals of his level now.
      1. +8
        8 September 2022 21: 27
        Quote from Silver99
        but the future Marshal of Victory calculated everything correctly. It is a pity that there are no generals of his level now.

        US satellites will reveal the density of troops along the front. According to these data, the Ukrainians are planning an offensive.
    2. -5
      8 September 2022 20: 30
      Quote: platoon
      At the beginning of October 1941, in a similar scenario, the Headquarters recalled Comrade from St. Petersburg (Leningrad). Zhukova G.K. in order to find the man who led the defense of the capital.

      What side are you on? sad
  10. +15
    8 September 2022 19: 34
    If there is a narrow wedge - hit on the flanks, the law. Then all the attackers will soon feel bad. Yes, they know it too.
    1. +24
      8 September 2022 19: 35
      Are there any of our combat-ready groupings on these flanks?
      1. +11
        8 September 2022 19: 47
        Are there any of our combat-ready groupings on these flanks?

        Don't know. They don't tell us one thing. Wait and see. Good luck to our warriors, Victory - to the Brothers!
  11. +17
    8 September 2022 19: 35
    It is clear that at such a pace this victory of the Ukrainians will end within a week ... The only question is, at our pace of advancement, will we push these 40 km back all winter? Or are we going to negotiate?
  12. +27
    8 September 2022 19: 36
    I watched video footage of how the Armed Forces of Ukraine enter Balakleya, which surprises the glass in the houses, that is, they entered practically on a swoop, without street fighting, as we do ((((Hmm, not 1941 and not 2014 to hand over the cities, they changed the commander, but things are still there, something is not right in the Danish kingdom.
    1. +12
      8 September 2022 20: 18
      Or maybe it’s not the commander that needs to be changed, but most importantly ......
      1. -17
        8 September 2022 20: 39
        Quote: Alexey_Kalashnikov
        Or maybe it’s not the commander that needs to be changed, but most importantly ......

        Change your wife... Resident of Ashdod.
        1. -6
          8 September 2022 21: 15
          wow! rude and stupid
          1. -10
            8 September 2022 21: 25
            Fine . With tsipsoshnikov it is no different.
            1. 0
              9 September 2022 22: 29
              Quote: 30 vis
              Fine . With tsipsoshnikov it is no different.

              Judging by the minuses, the TsIPSO workers are "winning" here today. That's where the win is! And near Kupyansk tomorrow they will be raked to the fullest.
              1. -2
                9 September 2022 22: 56
                Quote: Sarboz
                That's where the win is! And near Kupyansk tomorrow they will be raked to the fullest.

                There will be hell!
      2. +1
        9 September 2022 00: 26
        Impossible. Only he alone understands what his Plan is, according to which everything develops. If you change it, any new one will see some kind of nonsense in place of slender constructions.
      3. 0
        9 September 2022 22: 27
        Quote: Alexey_Kalashnikov
        Or maybe it’s not the commander that needs to be changed, but most importantly ......

        It doesn't matter to you that Zaluzhny and Zelensky are parsley. Your puppeteers overseas.
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  13. +36
    8 September 2022 19: 37
    and leaving without artillery support, in cold blood to finish off

    Yes Yes.
    Writing is easier than being on the front.
    I turned on NTV, maybe I think they will say on the news. 20 minutes rubbed about the Queen of England
    1. +28
      8 September 2022 19: 42
      I support and not only NTV: The first (time will tell) and RUSSIA (60 minutes) drive nonsense ...
    2. -7
      8 September 2022 20: 19
      Quote: Old Sergeant
      I turned on NTV, maybe I think they will say on the news.

      and SolvievLiv don't have a channel? Poddubny from Balakleya - holding on, Onufrienko - like this breakthrough does not affect the general situation, Kots - nifiga this is not the center of Balakleya, see the map
    3. 0
      8 September 2022 20: 35
      Usho: the queen gave oak.
  14. +29
    8 September 2022 19: 39
    Parade army in action. Tomorrow we will hand over Kherson and our people will rejoice at the busy cowshed. Stick earrings on another star, a bigger one.
  15. +17
    8 September 2022 19: 39
    at the same media level (with hanging flags) - as in the Kherson region

    And what, in fact, "if not the Kherson region"? There they still hold a foothold and are still trying to expand and strengthen it.
  16. +7
    8 September 2022 19: 40
    ..Judging by the red-bearded faces on the equipment, we can talk about the "Western Wind". From the nomenclature of NATO weapons, only aviation and tanks are missing ... probably.
    1. 0
      8 September 2022 20: 56
      There are a lot of mercenaries, even the regular American military is, not officially of course, an impressive number.

      And the Kharkov direction was not chosen by chance - after all, the air gate to Moscow
  17. +8
    8 September 2022 19: 40
    In short, we are running and the Ukrainians cannot catch up with us.
    1. -7
      8 September 2022 19: 51
      And how far did you run off the couch? lol
    2. -4
      8 September 2022 22: 11
      wy userdno swoju dolarowuju zarplatu otrabotali misterr fokin
  18. -2
    8 September 2022 19: 43
    Balakleya is not so important, calm down, but Kupyansk is much more serious. Kupyansk must be defended with the face of a rabid dog. It seems to me that the air forces will have a difficult day today to stop the advance, but be careful, because this time it seems that they are carrying a lot of anti-aircraft equipment.
    1. +13
      8 September 2022 19: 50
      A country unwilling to defend its furthest garrison will surrender its capital.
  19. +18
    8 September 2022 19: 45
    Sorry for our soldiers. Lives are sacrificed because of the decisions of the "commanders".
    1. +23
      8 September 2022 20: 01
      And what is it like now for those who were civilians for us and supported us: I don’t envy them. No matter how Bucha repeats ...
      1. +6
        8 September 2022 21: 03
        And what is it like now for those who were civilians for us and supported us: I don’t envy them. No matter how Bucha repeats ...

        I immediately thought of the population. There was no evacuation, everything was fast. Fir-trees of a stick they cooperated with us for half a year. Eh.....
        1. 0
          9 September 2022 04: 23
          It was possible to take out along with the wounded on the first day while holding on. Oh, the saddest thing is even if a miracle happens and we take it back.

          Nothing will happen to the locals who are handing over our personnel right now. After all, we are very kind.
  20. +20
    8 September 2022 19: 46
    "For the Russian command in this regard, the moment of truth is coming: without being subjected to a fever, to do what virtually any army would do in such a situation ...."
    Does the Russian command know about this? Judging according to the results conducting military operations for six months, the stated goals were not achieved. Denazification and demitalitarianization have not been carried out. There is no access to the borders of Donetsk and Lugansk regions. There are no political decisions regarding the liberated territories. Push-pull promotion. The availability of the necessary resources to achieve the goals is questionable. APU is coming! What's next? Peace talks or what?. What's this? Realization of a certain plan or bungling? Sad however.
    1. -8
      8 September 2022 20: 05
      Stop panicking. In a week you will regret what you wrote... Everything will be fine.
      1. +5
        8 September 2022 21: 46
        There is no panic, but there is resentment.
      2. Egg
        -3
        9 September 2022 08: 51
        Quote: TatarinSSSR
        Stop panicking. In a week you will regret what you wrote... Everything will be fine.

        This is not a panic, this is a massive attack of the CIPSOs, and this has been the case in every topic for the last 3-4 days: howling and minus, the vast majority of the all-weapons have recently registered, most likely just for this attack.
        so breathe easy and ignore the cons
    2. +2
      8 September 2022 20: 48
      The LPR controls the entire territory of the Luhansk region.
      1. +1
        9 September 2022 22: 37
        Quote: Sergej1972
        The LPR controls the entire territory of the Luhansk region.

        They have on the map in TsIPSO both Lugansk and Donetsk under the control of Zelensky. good
  21. +6
    8 September 2022 19: 49
    They concentrated 200 guns, 9 thousand people, how did they miss them?
    1. +16
      8 September 2022 20: 28
      Who missed it? Telegrams like 2 weeks ago they wrote about their concentration and a possible offensive. Konashenkov for several months every day reports on the destroyed warehouses and nationalists in Kharkov, Chuguev and other environs.
    2. -2
      8 September 2022 20: 33
      They stood there before the offensive - thousands of heads and hundreds of guns ...
  22. +15
    8 September 2022 19: 49
    If this is not some kind of cunning plan, then the command must be removed. This is a disgrace.
    1. +22
      8 September 2022 19: 52
      I look at the marshal of the Minister of Defense, his whole chest is in orders, his daughter in the Ministry of Emergencies has no less, the chief of the General Staff for 11 thousand km through binoculars examines amusing battles, ay gentlemen, the one who wins the war, and not the one who has a special operation, this one to me the slogan of the operation is reminiscent of catching drunks at a wine stall (((
      1. +3
        8 September 2022 20: 19
        Sorry, I couldn’t resist, I’ll clarify - the Minister of Defense with the rank of Army General, but not like a marshal. hi
    2. -2
      8 September 2022 19: 55
      Who is the command? And no one answered for the rest of the miscalculations and losses.
    3. -5
      8 September 2022 19: 57
      Yeah, take it off. They will still receive orders. Here is Gerasimov's strategy, there will be Shoigu's strategy on a fire truck.
    4. -4
      9 September 2022 00: 29
      It is either impossible to remove the command, or it is pointless, so we must think that this is a cunning plan.
  23. -12
    8 September 2022 19: 52
    perhaps the demonstration tour of Putin, Shoigu and Gerasimov to Vladivostok was a bait for the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Say, look, we are already winning, we have relaxed, the teachings are more important to us, etc. I don’t think that all three were so passionate about the teachings. Perhaps the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine just discovered, they say, "weak" places in the positions of the Russian army and the Armed Forces of Ukraine rushed there. They say the Russian General Staff now primarily has tank biathlon and exercises in the Far East. Perhaps this is a trap for the Armed Forces of Ukraine - a gigantic defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will break out.
    1. +12
      8 September 2022 19: 55
      (((you will also add about the gesture of goodwill in the surrender of cities (((The words sunk into my mind when people in the previously liberated territories ask with hope, did you come to us for a long time? answered forever, no matter how now the second series of Bucha would not be drawn (((
    2. -1
      8 September 2022 20: 05
      Quote: north 2
      I don’t think that all three were so passionate about the exercises


      Well, I have the same thoughts. Too simple and naive...
      Moreover, our guys were taken out, the administration and the population were evacuated, a closed meeting was held.
    3. +3
      8 September 2022 20: 16
      Quote: north 2
      Perhaps this is a trap for the Armed Forces of Ukraine - a gigantic defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will break out


      It looks like a trap. The flanks are not protected. Two blows under the base of the ledge and the 45-kilometer gut will turn into a cauldron with all the consequences.
      1. 0
        10 September 2022 17: 10
        There are impenetrable water barriers and off-road from the flanks. It is problematic to immediately attack.
    4. -2
      8 September 2022 20: 17
      It seems to me that you have too good an opinion about our leaders))) Yes, there is a typ blunder basically, somewhere rushing somewhere not, it's all over what's going on.
    5. -8
      9 September 2022 00: 30
      The main thing is to lure them to Kupyansk. If they enter Kupyansk, consider that we can already relax.
      1. +3
        9 September 2022 20: 56
        To Kupyansk? Isn't it more reliable - immediately to Donetsk? And so that with a guarantee - immediately to Belgorod, to Kursk ... to Moscow. Let communications stretch.
  24. -2
    8 September 2022 19: 57
    Well, what are the downsides? Are you funny now? Will there be emoticons?
  25. -6
    8 September 2022 20: 02
    I think ukrov will not be allowed further. They retreated to save people. Then they will thresh with artillery and aircraft, pull up the landing force, and the special forces will clear the captured villages. And yet ... There are a lot of questions for the command of the NWO. As well as intelligence. And very uncomfortable.
    1. +1
      8 September 2022 20: 06
      they have air defense with them, so it’s more likely that artillery, but ukrv also has artillery
    2. -5
      8 September 2022 20: 18
      What are the questions for the command of the Northern Military District with such a ratio of forces and losses? The Armed Forces of Ukraine have an almost sevenfold advantage in the number of personnel and powerful support for NATO. In terms of losses, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also in the lead. According to the same Americans, 5 to 1. That is, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are 5 times more .

      . But in the Russian expert get-together, "all-weapons" appeared. Say, every day it is officially reported about the destruction of manpower and weapons of the enemy, but the front practically does not move to the west. Moreover, Kyiv even retains the transport infrastructure and the system of command and control of troops and the economy. And this somehow does not fit with the previously promised collapse of independent defense and finance. Interestingly, here too, pro-Russian-minded Ukrainian bloggers explain this “alogism”. It's simple: the Armed Forces of Ukraine have an almost sevenfold advantage in the number of personnel and the most powerful support of NATO, not only with weapons, but also with intelligence, which in a military conflict is even more important than guns and aircraft. AmerSMI, in fact, do not even hide the fact that without the United States, the Kyiv regime would not have lasted even a month. However, until recently (at the peak of “graveyard”) it was believed that Zelensky’s million-strong army would overturn about 150 Russian soldiers stationed in Ukraine. And now even Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny claims that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have no real forces for an offensive.


      .In fact, ISW experts admit that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are on a grueling defense, despite the ratio of their forces to the Russians - seven to one.

      https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/344234/?cba=1

      It's just not worth fortune to sit on the neck.
      . “The losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the counteroffensive near Kherson are five to one (!). The Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have enough artillery to dislodge the Russian troops from the positions in which they have entrenched themselves. In addition, the Russian army has a huge technological superiority, including electronic warfare. And very well armed. According to nine Ukrainian soldiers from seven different units interviewed by WP journalists, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have to ration ammunition. Finally, journalists could not confirm the Ukrainian statements about the liberation of some villages, such as Vysokopolye, on the spot, ”writes WP.

      https://news-front.info/2022/09/07/washington-post-soobshhilo-chto-poterja-ukrainy-pod-hersonom-pjat-k-odnomu/
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  26. -7
    8 September 2022 20: 06
    Stop sowing panic or you will have a Ukrainian version of the Battle of Anval. Keep your composure, you are Russians, not Italians. Today, unfortunately, aviation will have to take higher risks. Send reinforcements to Kupyansk. Time to suffer, time to pray, time to fight. They are Russians, fight, God is with Russia, as was proclaimed in the mysteries of Fatima. Front Commander. Drink vodka and go to Kupyansk, raise the morale of the troops. Move your ass.
    1. -4
      8 September 2022 21: 29
      I would have hoped more for a strike elsewhere, an exchange for Soledar or Artemovsk would have come up, but where is the 3rd corps?
      1. -6
        8 September 2022 21: 35
        This offensive is organized by the CIA together with traitors from the Smolninsky City Council of St. Petersburg. Destroy them, shoot them.
  27. +2
    8 September 2022 20: 06
    If the evacuation of Izyum begins, then the whole company is lost, if we hold on, our counteroffensive will begin, it can be interesting.
  28. +11
    8 September 2022 20: 11
    Interestingly, despite seemingly daily strikes on clusters in Odessa, Nikolaev, and Kharkov, Ukrainians managed to throw quite a lot of armored vehicles into battle. Maybe we hit mockups / decoys?
    1. +2
      8 September 2022 20: 38
      Of all the explanations, the simplest one (Occam's principle) is usually correct. Most likely, these blows were only in Konashenkov's reports. The video was not provided, it was proposed to take a word.
    2. 0
      8 September 2022 20: 41
      In theory, the means of objective control give a completely intelligible answer whether the hit target was a false one. The question is whether these funds are available in the right places and in the right amount.
    3. +5
      8 September 2022 21: 27
      30-40 tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were definitely lost during the offensive in the south.
      But Konashenkov "is inclined to exaggerate the enemy's losses."
      1. -1
        8 September 2022 22: 55
        In just one day on August 30, the loss of tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Nikolaevsko-Krivoy Rog direction exceeded your estimated figures.

        Fights were also fought in other areas of the Kherson direction. More and more obituaries for killed enemy servicemen appear in the Ukrainian media. According to the statement of the Russian Ministry of Defense, during yesterday's counteroffensive, the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost 48 tanks, 46 infantry fighting vehicles, 37 armored vehicles, 8 pickup trucks with large-caliber machine guns mounted on them. We hope that the Department of Information and Mass Communications of the Russian Defense Ministry will publish new video materials in the near future, fixing the fire damage of enemy units.

        The Kyiv regime is trying hard to hide the level of losses from its population. Yesterday, on August 30, a ban was introduced in Ukraine on the work of civilian journalists with military units.

        https://kherson-news.ru/society/2022/08/31/26933.html
      2. 0
        9 September 2022 04: 49
        Yes, but according to some sources, there were about 200 tanks in the public domain .. not counting other armored vehicles ..
      3. +1
        9 September 2022 22: 48
        Quote: voyaka uh
        30-40 tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were definitely lost during the offensive in the south.
        But Konashenkov "is inclined to exaggerate the enemy's losses."

        Well, of course, everything is seen better on the screens of Israeli radars.
  29. 0
    8 September 2022 20: 12
    Quote: Dreamcat22
    And how far did you run off the couch? lol

    He has a sofa, like a frisky goat.
  30. -4
    8 September 2022 20: 14
    The capture of Kupyansk is a real, not an operational boiler for the entire Izyumov group. You have to be there to die.
  31. -15
    8 September 2022 20: 16
    Again, the whining of Girkin's adherents about mobilization. What nafig mobilization when there are not even a hundred thousand of the millionth army in Ukraine. Or if we transfer 50 thousand from the Far East, which the Japanese will immediately attack us during the exercises of the fool ??? Without mobilization, it is possible to double or even triple the grouping, why is this not being done? there are many uncomfortable questions to MO. In the cart, they generally write that before the onset of the pig farm, army units were withdrawn from Balakliya, leaving only the National Guard.
  32. +36
    8 September 2022 20: 16
    It feels like there is no army. Some kind of National Guard, police, militia, militia, PMCs are fighting. Aviation seems to be a pair of Su-25s and that's it. Where is at least half a hundred bombers and helicopters? Drones are collected by the whole world on some bank cards. For 10 years, weapons have been shown "unparalleled in the world," but in fact the troops have only old ones in the main, and new ones only in parades. Ordinary warriors have neither sights, nor thermal imagers, nor night vision devices, this is only available to a few.
    1. +5
      8 September 2022 20: 50
      You didn't discover America. Everyone understands this, but they do not speak openly. Two years ago I wrote that there is equipment for exhibitions and parades (cutting the budget) and there is for local hostilities - the old Soviet, partially modernized. Then I got 29 minuses for this commentary.
    2. -6
      9 September 2022 00: 43
      "and the new is only in parades." It is too expensive for mass production. As a demonstration of the potential of the military-industrial complex, it works perfectly.
      1. -2
        9 September 2022 21: 01
        So it turned out that we have an army for the military-industrial complex, and not a military-industrial complex for the army. And if that were the only problem...
  33. -11
    8 September 2022 20: 18
    How, however, the “liberal” public became more active here in anticipation of Ukronazi victories. Rejoice early, bad boys.
  34. +8
    8 September 2022 20: 21
    It was necessary to show the results to Ramstein and please - 45 km in one fell swoop. Set a task, complete the task. no words
    1. +1
      9 September 2022 22: 59
      Quote: Foundling
      It was necessary to show the results to Ramstein and please - 45 km in one fell swoop. Set a task, complete the task. no words

      CIPS children count in the fall. Let's see what will happen tomorrow near Kupyansk and here in VO. On the Internet, CIPSO wins with a dry score.
  35. +8
    8 September 2022 20: 21
    The intestines of the advancing riders are still thin. To cut along the flanks, I hope there is something, which means according to the plan. , evenly and blow the victory. We are waiting for the results, I sincerely wish the soldiers stamina and courage, military good luck.
  36. 0
    8 September 2022 20: 33
    When most of the defenders are conscripts from the LDNR in steel helmets and with minimal training, and soldiers trained and armed according to NATO standards go against them, it is clear that this will end badly. There are few people and modern equipment.
  37. +1
    8 September 2022 20: 38
    Even if the plan is to drag the pigs into a trap and chop up several thousand dill and several dozen pieces of equipment, exchanging them for hundreds of our fighters, then the plan is initially crappy. Globally, this will give absolutely nothing, Zeleboba will catch new stupid Selyuks, the Americans will give more money and weapons, and everything in a new circle. Until we gouge to zero the entire critical infrastructure in the pig farm, there will be no victory.
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  39. -3
    8 September 2022 21: 00
    Quote: Shamil88
    He was right from the very beginning, and all his predictions that he gave in March are still coming true, there was an order for bots to poison him everywhere, they even made memes, people who are nothing like anyone called him names, and now after 7 months of SVO we see what is the General Staff and the leadership of the country, impotent

    In fairness, the military was against the NWO. But who listened to them? The Chekists pushed through and had to obey, and therefore the military are fighting in the style of an "Italian strike" to annoy the Chekists.
  40. +1
    8 September 2022 21: 02
    Quote: Alexey_Kalashnikov
    I have been following Strelkov's speeches and articles for a long time. Well, he's right. For the most part in all their predictions. He is very reasoned. But most importantly, it is his predictions that come true, and not such idiots like Barants. He is right in assessing the very low command and human qualities of Himself. Rights in the assessment of lampasnikov. Yes, this is a bunch of careerists, sycophants, cowards. Only with such qualities in the army can one grow to a general. Well, even if dad or mom is a general. Yes, they will not be able to wage war. They didn't make a career out of it. They are not defending their homeland - they are making a career. They piss on frogs, but they will not make an independent decision. Strelkov has been calling out to everyone for more than a month now: Look what these idiots are doing. They gnaw at the frontal defense - do they have an order for corpses? Well, at least some original military idea will be born in their stupid heads? Looks like no. We are losing the war with all the trump cards in our hands.

    It's on people like you that they'll hang everything. And lampasniks will again come out dry from the water. Such is the dialectic of life.
  41. -1
    8 September 2022 21: 04
    I wonder how gentlemen the generals will look into the eyes of the seriously wounded, who will remain disabled and the relatives of the dead because of their incompetence, or do they think insurance of 7 million will cover everything up?
  42. -6
    8 September 2022 21: 04
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Confirmed from the cart - Balakleya was handed over

    Goodwill gesture. How else ?
  43. +2
    8 September 2022 21: 08
    For reference . In March 1945, the German counteroffensive in the area of ​​Lake Balaton. Several cities were left, including the city of Szekesfehervar, where front-line hospitals were located. Nothing prevented us from taking Berlin in 2 months. Anything can happen in a war, so you don’t have to watch.
  44. +1
    8 September 2022 21: 29
    How could this happen?!

    Our artillery and aviation did not hit anyone at all ?!

    In my opinion, there are traitors among our generals in the General Staff.
    1. 0
      9 September 2022 00: 45
      You are a big optimist. laughing Traitor caught - and the problem is solved.
  45. +10
    8 September 2022 21: 41
    Yeah....

    As a Ukrainian, it is absolutely incomprehensible to me how the Russian Federation is going to win this war.

    There are no manpower reserves.
    Technology - modern, with normal performance characteristics - no.
    Generals are slow-witted with mental retardation.
    1. -3
      9 September 2022 00: 50
      Will! Our Commander-in-Chief has so much will that it more than compensates for the lack of knowledge, common sense and objective capabilities. So let's wait for the imminent fall of Kharkov, Odessa, Kyiv and Lvov!
  46. -5
    8 September 2022 21: 44
    Quote: Vitaliy161
    smells like a rout, not a trap

    razgromom WSU; pora speczajady primenjat koncat wrednyj humanizm
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  48. -7
    8 September 2022 21: 48
    Quote: Bronik
    in the style of "Italian strike",

    za takoje na wojne rastrel pered strojem
  49. -8
    8 September 2022 21: 58
    Quote: Klonser
    The ass is full. Generals who overslept should be shot. It's funny... The second army of the world. If the Poles harness themselves, they will definitely take Moscow

    wy paniker u nas TJAO i SJAO jest nado udarit speczarjadom 2MT po Lwowu i ultimatywno k bezgoworocnoj kapitulacji prinudit otkaz=bandderostan prewratit waktywnyj pustir pust polacyski iz za lucewoj bolezni podohnutki snjat belyje percatki w mjaswanict
  50. -6
    8 September 2022 22: 35
    Quote from lets-true
    Ikhail Stepanovich Zusko Lieutenant General
    Born on May 24, 1972 in the village of Vetly, Volyn region, Ukraine.
    Chief of Staff of the Russian group of troops (forces) "West"
    Interesting.

    kuda kontrazwedka smotrit z takom proizhozdenem jemu na kitajskoj granice unterom sluzit belenku toze promorgali i MIG 25 w Japonii prizemlilsja
  51. -4
    8 September 2022 22: 51
    Quote: Alexey_Kalashnikov
    Apparently not. We are losing the war with all the trump cards in our hands.

    wy ne panikujte u nas speczarjadow na unictozenje banderostana
  52. 0
    8 September 2022 23: 34
    And the next day or two will give an answer to the question of whether the enemy will turn media success into real military success or will repeat his “Kherson scenario”

    Don't panic, gentlemen. Now all we can do is support our guys morally and spiritually..
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    1. 0
      9 September 2022 12: 14
      Ivan, the war with NATO and no one can strengthen the conventional ones yet. So, if with NATO - nuclear weapons are needed immediately in Poland.
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    1. -2
      9 September 2022 12: 16
      Well, 2 million people, predominantly men, at this moment when you need a working hand. Think for yourself what will happen. The SVO lasted too long.
    2. -4
      9 September 2022 21: 21
      Who are you going to mobilize? Those who were ready to fight, had the motivation, came to the military registration and enlistment offices long ago and signed contracts, and are already fighting without any mobilization. And those who do not have motivation, if they are caught and put into formation, will pose a greater danger to their country than to the enemy. Yes, and the training of these reservists, as it were... Conduct training, coordination, you say? And who will do this? Everyone who is capable of fighting is fighting, commanders really don’t like to let go of experienced soldiers, sergeants and officers; they would rather send the most problematic and incompetent ones as instructors and the core of newly formed units. And in the training centers of the Ministry of Defense and military educational institutions they will teach... Friends who are still serving say that the number of inspections of units has expectedly increased multiple times. But they are checked by the same people as before, and they check what they are used to, what they can do - record keeping, appearance... So the mobilized will be drilled by the drill for several months, since they need to prepare for drill reviews and parades (after all, they are in This year it wasn’t canceled, and it won’t be canceled again, even if the adversary approaches Moscow), and after the parades - straight into battle. Having a couple of hundred hours of combat and one horn of cartridges fired during the entire training period. And how to arm the mobilized millions, if the T-62 is already being taken out of storage for the hundreds of thousands already fighting? Well, there are AKMs and AK-74s for 10 million (I hope, at least), but enemy artillery doesn’t care whether with or without a machine gun the body that was torn to pieces by a shell. How about training tank crews and artillerymen in six months, even in a year? NATO can do this, but we cannot. We have combat drills, notes on the joint military training, outfits, chores... We won’t have it any other way even during the war, so the trainees will see the equipment a week before graduation, and then - do not touch it with your hands in the regime, the commanders are responsible for it.
      In 1917, the mobilized Russian army destroyed the Russian Empire - the main fighting force of the revolutions were soldiers of reserve regiments who did not want to go to the front, and Baltic sailors who had decayed from forced idleness (the sea was thickly covered with mines). Can we repeat it?
      1. 0
        9 September 2022 23: 24
        Everything is clear - it's time to give up...
  55. +5
    9 September 2022 04: 34
    I won't comment on anything. Yesterday, my comments with quotes from military commander Poddubny were deleted, obviously it really hurts someone’s eyes here.. But this is a failure or a tactical retreat, or whatever other asshole generals will come up with a cover-up explanation for this..- it doesn’t matter..
    1. Is2
      -4
      9 September 2022 17: 23
      you are right i think so too
  56. +1
    9 September 2022 04: 44
    Quote: Boris Sergeev
    A country unwilling to defend its furthest garrison will surrender its capital.

    But then: “Get up, huge country!”....
    1. 0
      9 September 2022 21: 31
      The dead garrison will be declared heroes, and for us this means that the investigation of the one whose incompetence led to the need to perform the feat becomes taboo. The cruiser "Varyag", driven into a trap by the command when the inevitability of war was clear to everyone, the 6th company, heroically defending for a day, being actually next to the airfields where our aviation rested (which decades ago was everywhere called all-weather, wasn't it?), and too many other similar examples.
  57. +7
    9 September 2022 08: 45
    We've been marking time in one place for several months, and now we're done. Kyiv created a reserve, trained it abroad, armed it with modern foreign equipment, and as a result, we have what we have.
    1. Is2
      0
      9 September 2022 17: 24
      Unfortunately it's true
    2. -3
      9 September 2022 18: 27
      This is what I read in the public: Everything is going according to plan! Learn to think, intelligence officers! Compare the facts! Ukrainians threw almost their entire reserve into battle. They stretched out their rears and brought their bases within range of our artillery strike. The Ukrainians need at least some kind of victory to show in Ramstein that they are working out the dollar dropper normally. And they kind of succeeded. But for this they put all their aircraft in this direction on the line. They themselves came to the Balakleya mousetrap. We won't let them out of there. Today's transfer of reserves clearly shows that the operation was thought out by the General Staff in advance. And in response, we showed Ramstein Vostok-2022. Remember the film "Storm Gates", remember Nevsky's tactics in the Battle of the Ice with his ambush regiment. Yes, the battles are hard, and there are losses. But! Pulling 30 thousand Ukrainian Armed Forces personnel along with their equipment into the field and burning them there is much less loss than digging them out of the concrete shelters they spent eight years building with frontal attacks! We outplayed them and they bought it! A maximum of a week and all that will remain of their grouping in the Kharkov direction is burnt iron and captive “cooks” who today rejoice at their own naivety! hi
      1. -1
        9 September 2022 19: 32
        You'll probably be slamming this mousetrap for a month.
      2. +1
        9 September 2022 21: 34
        The landing in Gostomel, the advance of our troops to Kyiv was also beautiful in concept, but this is how it all ended... God forbid that another cunning plan (if this is it) does not end with another gesture of goodwill.
      3. -1
        10 September 2022 16: 23
        Quote from kuztoday
        We outplayed them and they bought it!

        Please re-read your lines in a week.
  58. +1
    9 September 2022 10: 48
    Make a “chick-chick” on this “gut” that the Ukrainian Armed Forces made for themselves...
  59. 0
    9 September 2022 11: 12
    Everything that is happening now is the result of previous activity, or rather, inactivity. There have been no initiative and competent generals for a long time. The army is led by peacetime officers. And there other qualities are valued. It takes time for changes.
    1. +1
      9 September 2022 21: 40
      The main thing is that during this time the army does not end. And the replacement of peacetime commanders with those who are capable of fighting can only happen when at the very top they reconsider the position “we don’t let our own be offended.” In this aspect, this approach is absolutely destructive - if the system is not allowed to get rid of non-viable, unteachable components, the entire system, in this case the country, will collapse.
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  61. +1
    9 September 2022 12: 32
    Syria taught our generals nothing. Sadness...
  62. -1
    9 September 2022 13: 00
    Anyone (including the Ukrainian Army) understands that there must be a blow to the flags - the question is what?
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  64. +4
    9 September 2022 14: 59
    I'll add my two cents.
    Well, first of all, what do you want from the generals who for 20 years have been preparing to fight exclusively against the “barmalei” with their two mortars and three “jihadmobiles”? I remember how a certain Makarov, who called himself the Chief of the General Staff, muttered through his lip, saying, forget about all these Soviet ideas about fronts and armies, now we will have a battalion tactical group that will decide everything, it is capable of completing ALL tasks. And only the “barmaley” will be the enemy; there will be no more wars with the front line, with an artillery offensive. So a big hello to this general.
    Secondly, it follows from “firstly”, they rushed to war waving the “almighty BTG”. Moreover, with holy confidence that a reinforced motohoof battalion stretched over 6-8 km along the front, and this is the notorious BTG, is capable of crushing everyone, everything, everywhere. Well, what is BTG? SME with a tank company and an artillery division, plus, not always, a jet division. And this handful of troops is capable of overcoming long-term fire installations, six lines of trenches, and barrage fire from enemy artillery on a 6-8 km front? My slippers are crying with laughter.
    Thirdly, air support. From the same times come the arrogant statements of apologists for “quality, not quantity,” that, say, five to six dozen sophisticated attack aircraft will solve ANY problem of destroying ground targets. But the trouble is, the air defense of the Bandera-Nazi troops is alive and does not want to end. As a result, our aviation behaves more than modestly. The shock group of the Ukrainian-Nazis gathered near Kharkov almost openly. Why didn't they roll it into the asphalt from the air? Why weren't they blown to smithereens? But the fact is that such a strike could lead to losses of 6-8 or even 10 aircraft. If you have 200-250 Su-24, 250-300 Su-17 and MiG-27, and you hit with this mass and don’t let the enemy raise their heads, then losses of even 10 aircraft are only 1,5 to 2% combat strength. But if you have 50 Su-34s and 30 Su-35s, then a loss of 10 aircraft is already 12,5% ​​of the combat strength. And such losses are already considered unacceptable, unacceptable.
    So we arrived at a situation where the tales that small in number but ultra-modern aviation is the pinnacle of perfection, that it will accomplish all tasks due to the quality of its equipment, turned out to be nothing more than idiotic illusions. Yes, it worked against the “barmalei” in Syria, but they had nothing other than MANPADS. And as soon as it turned out that the assurances about the destruction of most of the air defense systems of the Ukrainian-Bandera army were, to put it mildly, an exaggeration, then the spectacular strikes on the enemy somehow imperceptibly faded away, nothing more than launching a NUR from afar and immediately turning away, not crossing the front line.
    And one last thing. Some experts warned that delaying the operation would allow the Nazis to form new combat-ready units in NATO countries. And the supply of weapons will at least somehow equip them. And this will result in new blood. But their voices were drowned in endless jingoistic chants of how good everything is, how wonderful everything is, how everything is going according to the “cunning plan.” Alas, no one took Cassandra seriously in Troy either. So the voices of these people were also not listened to. It was much more pleasant to say that “everything is fine, beautiful marquise.”
  65. +4
    9 September 2022 16: 13
    I understand that our generals, to put it mildly, are stupid. At least they know how to play chess.
    1. Is2
      +3
      9 September 2022 17: 28
      For their stupidity and incompetence they should have hung a long time ago
    2. 0
      10 September 2022 07: 53
      Not very much a point.)
  66. Is2
    -4
    9 September 2022 17: 17
    Stalin knew what to do with our generals who were responsible for this defeat
  67. Ed
    -2
    9 September 2022 17: 23
    What a miracle, Russia has been using high-precision technology for half a year......, and then the Armed Forces of Ukraine threw lyulya in 2 days. I hope I'm wrong
  68. Ed
    -8
    9 September 2022 17: 37
    The amers' plan is working. Ukraine, with the help of NATO, is killing Moscow. Russia is negotiating and will pay reparations to the Ukrainians, and will give America free oil.
  69. +2
    9 September 2022 17: 46
    Quote from Edas
    Amer's lan is working. Ukraine, with the help of NATO, is killing Moscow. Russia is negotiating and there will be turnips

    cus nesete RF hhwatit speczarjadow na unictozenje USA NATO Ukraine Ukraine Japoni i procih wragow tolko nado perwym udarit
  70. +2
    9 September 2022 19: 19
    They knew about the impending attack and did nothing. On the contrary, some of the forces were withdrawn from this direction. Smells like betrayal.
    1. +2
      9 September 2022 21: 43
      When a real threat to Kherson arose, they began to throw hysteria and throw everything they could. So the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ auxiliary strike turned out just like in the textbook.
  71. -7
    9 September 2022 19: 50
    Moderators! Would you close comments under news? An impossible intensity of hysteria mixed with enemy bots
    1. +2
      9 September 2022 20: 13
      And you only wanted to read about hell? That’s why people like you constantly wrote that everything was great with us, and turned a blind eye to everything. And now you don’t like it when your worldview collapses
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  73. -1
    9 September 2022 21: 11
    Good article. Just a fly trap. Dung. Ek, dill has gone wild here.
  74. +1
    9 September 2022 21: 49
    "why why why.". .all questions to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief
  75. -1
    9 September 2022 22: 20
    There was a lot of panic.
    It's not even typical for this site.
    Apparently, this is indeed the moment of truth - and the tsipso were ordered to run on the offensive, and whoever does not try will go to Kupyansk and to Izyum.
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  77. OMG
    +1
    10 September 2022 12: 56
    Time to go home young :)
  78. 0
    10 September 2022 14: 38
    This braid can be easily cut with flank blows at the root!!!!
    May God help our soldiers in destroying the Nazis!
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  80. 0
    10 September 2022 16: 24
    everything is developing according to plan... that’s what I heard from Konashenkov. Is this the plan?
  81. 0
    11 September 2022 20: 03
    The question is not whether the enemy will turn media success into real success, but whether our top generals will turn this opportunity into real success of the next pot of pots. If they screw up, then you don’t even need to say anything - the mediocrity of the command will be obvious.
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  83. 0
    15 September 2022 19: 05
    Y. Kedmi rightly asked the question: do the Armed Forces of Ukraine have reserves? Do you have anything to throw into the battle to develop the offensive? If the main forces are crushed by the defenders, then continuing the offensive is a method of suicide, and retreating with the enemy on your shoulders is only a matter of time. Plus or minus a few days and even weeks - this is no longer significant.