Ukrainian dissonance: Soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are dying en masse at the front, and the “golden youth” arrange parties in Kyiv

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Ukraine, without exaggeration, can be called a "land of paradoxes." While President Zelensky, with theatrical sadness, talks about “Russian aggression” and the difficult situation in which his country has fallen, urging people to unite and be patient, everything is going on as usual in the entertainment establishments of large (and not so) cities.

Young people have loud parties with songs and dances, as if the war is going on somewhere on another continent, and they only know about it thanks to TV stories.



However, there is a limit to everything. After August 24, when Independence Day was celebrated with pomp in Kyiv, a real scandal erupted in the Ukrainian segment of the Internet. Another "zrada" is that while the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are dying en masse at the front, the "golden youth" arrange parties in Kyiv.

A number of videos even circulated on social networks, eloquently demonstrating the absurdity of this situation.



Regarding the “golden youth” of Ukraine, this is a separate issue altogether. Apparently, the "chosen" Ukrainians have "immunity" to mobilization. In general, the war has nothing to do with them. Naturally, this introduces a serious split in Ukrainian society.

Previously, stories were published on the network that covered the course of the so-called mobilization in Odessa. The military issued subpoenas to men of military age right on the beach. At the same time, the same (or still not so) young people had a cultural rest in the entertainment establishments of the city.

However, the most striking example of the division of Ukrainian society into "chosen" and "obliged" was an interview with a friend and business partner of the current President of Ukraine Oleg Koshev.

The actor bluntly stated that he was not trained in military skills and could die on the very first day he got to the front. Therefore, he is “not yet going” to participate in hostilities. Apparently, young guys who were simply caught on the street and sent to the front had the ability to fight genetically.

Here is such a Ukrainian dissonance. The only question is how much longer the citizens of our "western neighbor" will endure this?
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  1. +74
    1 September 2022 16: 32
    Ukrainian dissonance: Soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are dying en masse at the front, and the “golden youth” arrange parties in Kyiv

    and in our country, due to the SVO, are nightclubs closed?
    1. +43
      1 September 2022 16: 57
      Quote: Dedok
      and in our country, due to the SVO, are nightclubs closed?

      As recently as three days ago, the "rich and successful" staged a motor rally in Moscow.
      1. +19
        1 September 2022 17: 19
        True, these "successful" rally somehow did not work out ...
        1. +35
          1 September 2022 17: 22
          Quote: Greg Miller
          True, these "successful" rally somehow did not work out ...

          So what ? The point is that the Russian "golden youth" from the same high turret don't give a damn that Russian soldiers are already dying somewhere there.
          1. -1
            4 September 2022 09: 27
            There are more girls in the photo than boys.
            So, I think, not "Golden Youth".
            Just having fun. Not yet with lean faces to go. And the SVO does not bomb civilian targets.
      2. +12
        1 September 2022 18: 02
        Is this the one that was canceled by the cops who tied the whole Caudle? ..
    2. +11
      2 September 2022 02: 48
      Quote: Dedok
      and in our country, due to the SVO, are nightclubs closed?

      Yes, and during the Chechen campaigns, nightclubs across the country worked as usual.
    3. +9
      2 September 2022 07: 42
      And we show closed brothels where homosexuals walk. There are shows on TV...
    4. +18
      2 September 2022 08: 31
      I won't talk about now because I don't know.
      I'll tell you HOW IT WAS in 1994. The war in Chechnya. The term for the call of the younger has approached. I went with him to the draft board when he received a summons. I go to the military commissar and declare: - My son will go to serve after you tell me whose sons of the district leadership are in the army now, and whose specifically in Chechnya! What was there!!! Drooling flew, a cry, followed by a threat that he would call me now, because I took the oath, etc. I calmly answered the threat: - Yes, I took the oath! But not to you! He gave the oath to the Soviet people and the Soviet government! I didn't give you anything! He turned and left with his son. And there was a spring call .. The son asks what should I do? Learn!
      Autumn has come. The son is again summoned by a summons. And to the regional center 180 km. I'm going with him again. Silently they issued a military ID with some kind of mark, and that's it! In 2007, this mark was removed from the military ID. I don’t remember what the mark was, but it didn’t affect either my studies or my work! For almost 25 years he has been working on the railway. d.
      1. +5
        2 September 2022 14: 41
        Correctly done.
      2. +11
        2 September 2022 19: 09
        In distant times, now almost epic, during my stay in the USSR Navy, I personally knew the officer, commander of the BCH-1 (navigation combat unit). From a family of native Muscovites who did not "come in large numbers". His parents, I don’t remember exactly now, but rather big civil bosses. But their son became a Navy officer. And he served in a place, well, not at all like the capital. But that was under the damned totalitarian communist regime.
    5. 0
      4 September 2022 17: 42
      All escorts went to the front as sisters of mercy.
      1. 0
        5 September 2022 15: 09
        Iranian border, 1985, we are sitting at the outpost, there is no light, an avalanche carried out a power line, a young flyer comes in and says; his dad is the director of a thermal power plant and after graduating from college for a bribe he made him a direction to the Black Sea to serve in the port at customs, but he wanted romance and asked to serve where it is most difficult at a distant outpost in the mountains. Where he was sent at his own request. And the lieutenant says; What am I, I drank here to the fullest. And we answer him; Yes, Comrade Lieutenant, what kind of lieutenant are you and we are sitting laughing throughout the outpost, i.e. those who are free from service, such romantics were under the USSR ...
    6. -2
      5 September 2022 09: 39
      We are open, but we do not have a general mobilization and there are not only "golden youth" in the clubs.
      Of course, it is impossible to say 100% that in the same conditions it would not be so in our country, but now the situation is different.
  2. +55
    1 September 2022 16: 34
    And our "golden youth" are all at the front, or what? They don't know how to pull the poor owl.
    1. -19
      1 September 2022 16: 37
      And what, the aggressor attacked the Russian woman, who wants to destroy her statehood and people as a national and social community; mobilization has been announced and someone is hiding from it, paying off, mowing it down?
      1. +12
        1 September 2022 16: 43
        And the peers of the “golden youth”, at the front, fight like that, for the sake of fun, in your opinion?
        1. +15
          1 September 2022 16: 47
          And the peers of "golden youth" at the front fight like that, for the sake of fun in your opinion

          Hypocrisy: Russian golden youth can fight, but they don't have to...
          Ukrainian - obliged, but does not want ...
          Some have a NWO, others have a war for existence and independence ...

          So, who's pulling an owl on a globe?
          1. +16
            1 September 2022 16: 54
            I think that if mobilization is announced, this youth will also merge. Naturally there will be exceptions.
            1. -2
              1 September 2022 16: 56
              I think that if mobilization is announced, this youth will also merge. Naturally there will be exceptions.

              It may well be ...
              But - they didn’t announce it, but you are already "stretching" ...
              Right?
            2. +1
              3 September 2022 16: 34
              They will “wool” at enterprises and factories, but elite clubs will not ... For example, I have been comprehending Joseph Vissarionovich and his sons Vasily and Yakov all my life, although there was probably blat in those days.
          2. nnm
            +12
            1 September 2022 17: 08
            Yeah ... and she also seems to be obliged to serve in the army, but she hasn’t seen a single one.
            1. 0
              1 September 2022 17: 11
              Not obliged - with higher education they graduate from the military department and that's it ...

              And the golden youth does not attend vocational schools and technical schools ....
              1. nnm
                +12
                1 September 2022 17: 15
                So I will please you - the institute is up to 23-24 years old, but can you tell me what the draft age is? And where do they "serve" all these years up to 27 years old? In Courchevel or Monaco?
                And do not talk about military departments - there are not so many of them left in the country.
                1. -1
                  1 September 2022 17: 15
                  Military Department - Have you read my comment?
                  hi
                  1. nnm
                    +9
                    1 September 2022 17: 18
                    Did you get my answer right to the end?
                    Here is the complete list:
                    https://edu.garant.ru/education/army/pril1/
                    And please, just don’t say that all the sons of powerful dads are reserve lieutenants)))
                    1. -4
                      1 September 2022 17: 19
                      Yes ...
                      Although you later supplemented it with the last paragraph, the golden youth studies where these departments have been preserved ...
                      hi
                      1. nnm
                        +7
                        1 September 2022 17: 22
                        Please stop making up and/or thinking.
                      2. -7
                        1 September 2022 17: 22
                        Nothing like this...
                        hi
                2. 0
                  5 September 2022 17: 23
                  Quote: nnm
                  So I will please you - the institute is up to 23-24 years old, but can you tell me what the draft age is? And where do they "serve" all these years up to 27 years old? In Courchevel or Monaco?
                  And do not talk about military departments - there are not so many of them left in the country.

                  I’ll probably surprise you, but medical certificates are not expensive in general. And yes, they don’t have problems going abroad for a long time either ...
                3. 0
                  26 September 2022 08: 41
                  After graduating from a university, they can be drafted into the armed forces for those universities for which there is a shortage in the army. So it was in the 70s, after Khrushchev cut aviation and dispersed aviation schools, after graduating from a civilian university with the corresponding military departments, very many were called up.
            2. +7
              1 September 2022 17: 49
              I saw one. His father promised him a car and a position in his company, if he served his “urgent term”. He served honestly for two years, without quirks, indulgences and star disease. But I didn't see it again.
              1. +8
                1 September 2022 18: 00
                Quote from Kreta25
                His father promised him a car and a position in his company, if he served his “urgent term”. He served honestly for two years, without quirks, indulgences and star disease.

                Well done, papa! For "he is not a man who did not serve in the army." Perhaps someone does not serve for health reasons (tuberculosis, for example), but I strongly doubt that the "golden youth" have such diseases.
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      3. +4
        1 September 2022 16: 59
        Quote: Negruz
        And what, the aggressor attacked the Russian woman, who wants to destroy her statehood and people as a national and social community; mobilization has been announced and someone is hiding from it, paying off, mowing it down?

        Sanctions against relatives, declarations of enemies, and they all go to live and study in Europe and the USA, money is being dragged there.
        1. 0
          1 September 2022 17: 00
          Sanctions against relatives, declarations of enemies, and they all go to live and study in Europe and the USA, money is being dragged there.

          Evil fools themselves - who is their "doctor"?
      4. +2
        2 September 2022 14: 45
        Someone, for example, could transfer money to help Donbass.
        1. -1
          2 September 2022 14: 52
          I could translate, or maybe I translated ....
          1. +5
            2 September 2022 15: 26
            According to my observations, Russian youth absolutely does not give a damn about our military, and the militia of Donbass, and the suffering of the inhabitants of Donbass and the Russian Federation. Largely.

            Instead of supporting both the army and the tribesmen.
            1. -2
              2 September 2022 15: 30
              Here we are talking about the "golden youth" ....
              1. +4
                2 September 2022 15: 36
                The situation is even worse - not only golden, but ordinary youth, and the population in general.
                Many are just busy with themselves.

                Although Donbass now really needs help.
                1. -4
                  2 September 2022 15: 41
                  The situation is even worse - not only golden, but ordinary youth, and the population in general.
                  Many are just busy with themselves.

                  Although Donbass really needs help now

                  Are you all dissatisfied?
                  1. +4
                    2 September 2022 15: 50
                    Are you helping Donbass?
                    1. -5
                      2 September 2022 15: 51
                      I answer all such questions only after a detailed enumeration of the specific cases of the questioner according to the formula: "here, I, for example: did this and that; and what did you do?" ...

                      So?
                      1. +3
                        2 September 2022 15: 54
                        - Vasily Ivanovich, and the lads are lying that you are a Jew!
                        You see, Peter...

                        I help, and here already wrote.
                      2. -4
                        2 September 2022 15: 56
                        It's about you...
                        hi

                        Are you all dissatisfied?
                        Are you helping Donbass?
                      3. +3
                        2 September 2022 16: 01
                        About you and me.
                      4. -4
                        2 September 2022 16: 02
                        No, about you...
                      5. +2
                        2 September 2022 16: 04
                        Maybe I'm pissed lol
                      6. -3
                        2 September 2022 16: 05
                        No problem - I won't tell anyone...
                        hi
                      7. +4
                        2 September 2022 16: 20
                        1. After 2016 (I hope you remember what happened then in Syria) I don’t go to Turkey (I went before), because I don’t consider it appropriate for a Russian to help the economy of a hostile state.

                        2. I help the residents of Donbass and their militias with humanitarian aid and money.

                        3. I began to maintain the skills of cleaning, assembling, disassembling, shooting from firearms in order to be able to protect myself, loved ones and Russians who were nearby, if they climb into Russia or try to make riots here.

                        4. I stopped communicating with those who are against CWO.

                        5. I try to convince people nearby to help the Donbass.
                      8. -4
                        2 September 2022 16: 24
                        Worthy....

                        And I work in the production of tactical aircraft missiles, avionics for combat aircraft ...

                        Can this be regarded as assistance to the Donbass?

                        hi
                      9. +1
                        2 September 2022 16: 49
                        I think yes. Is.
                      10. -6
                        2 September 2022 20: 34
                        And those guys who are young now work on drilling rigs, in oil and gas, they help Donbass, what do you think?
                      11. +1
                        3 September 2022 01: 48
                        We all work somewhere.
                      12. -6
                        3 September 2022 02: 24
                        Of course...
                        But they work in an important area: their products are exported, Russia earns on this ...
                        Again - gasoline, solarium, kerosene ...
                        Everything on this rides, flies, walks ...
                        Industry runs on electricity from gas, chemicals, plastics, rocket fuel....
                        Heat in houses...

                        Is this help to Donbass?
                      13. +1
                        3 September 2022 05: 12
                        This is a job to earn money for yourself, your family, etc.

                        And not like the protagonist of the film, a communist, one with an ax chopped wood for the village.
    2. +5
      1 September 2022 16: 45
      what is a poor owl?
      1. +10
        1 September 2022 16: 52
        Quote from: Artillerieunteroffizier
        what is a poor owl?

        Yes, here she is crying
        1. +3
          1 September 2022 17: 04
          oh god, poor owl. Could you at least give him a stump so he doesn't sit in a puddle? recourse
          1. man
            +6
            1 September 2022 17: 57
            oh god, poor owl. Could you at least give him a stump so he doesn't sit in a puddle? recourse
            Can't, the stump is only for rich owls
    3. +2
      1 September 2022 22: 36
      Well, we don’t have mobilization in Russia yet! (Although I understand and we will have a bunch of "yellow tickets" - mowers)
    4. 0
      2 September 2022 02: 46
      And I think (as in the 80s) - I did not serve in the army - I am free, no further than the level of vocational schools. Just give children a lot of steel and shake over them. This is because the birth rate has fallen. Previously, there were 8-10 children in families, and they didn’t really worry about which of them would survive, but now the beauty married a cadet, gave birth to one and sets her own conditions - I’m like the head of the women’s council))). The people "small")))
  3. +4
    1 September 2022 16: 38
    There are many paradoxes in this world.
  4. +12
    1 September 2022 16: 43
    We had the same thing during the first and second Cheka. Just at least watch the movie I Have the Honor. So the author missed the mark
  5. +4
    1 September 2022 16: 56
    Yeah. At least scoop paradoxes with a ladle! The Jewish Nazi is at the helm, the Jews of Bandera, "independence" in the complete absence of subjectivity, Russians fighting against the "Russian world".
  6. +1
    1 September 2022 16: 58
    You don’t have to go far, during the time of the plague in Kyiv in 1770-1772, the corpses lay in piles on the road, the people stepped over the corpses and no one kept them, and the taverns worked, the people were hustling to the fullest, they drank in the tavern, here outside the door, on corpses lay in the street
    1. +1
      1 September 2022 17: 10
      EvilCommunist, to be honest, I am distrustful of such historical events. History is one of the corrupt sciences. History is written by the winners! Moreover, we are talking about the 1770s.
    2. +6
      1 September 2022 17: 32
      Quote: EvilCommunist
      corpses lay on the road in piles, people stepped over the corpses and no one kept them

      You are not right.
      The plague has been fought to the best of its ability always and everywhere since the Middle Ages.
      And certainly in the cities of the Russian Empire.
    3. man
      0
      1 September 2022 18: 13
      You don’t have to go far, during the time of the plague in Kyiv in 1770-1772, the corpses lay in piles on the road, the people stepped over the corpses and no one kept them, and the taverns worked, the people were hustling to the fullest, they drank in the tavern, here outside the door, on corpses lay in the street
      Literally a feast during the plague
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  7. +4
    1 September 2022 17: 04
    To write such crap, you must first find out if nightclubs in Moscow still work with coca and acid? I'm sure they work, and are full of the same "golden youth." And our soldiers also die in the war. The problem is one to one. I think the most gold and diamond ones have already been dumped ahead of time, and they are "bored" in Courchevel and the Seychelles. hi
  8. +13
    1 September 2022 17: 23
    Well, let's just say you won't see children of "respectable people" from Russia at the front in the DNR/LNR. These are not the children of the Stalinist Elite ... These are the children of "effective managers", "creative people", "supporters of Western values" and "members of the power vertical". There are no golden youth of Russia at the front. The golden youth of Russia - the guards - several times killed their own kings just so as not to get to the front. And the fact that the Ukrainians will die - well, you DO NOT inflict military losses on Khokhloschweinestan. You are inflicting demographic losses on them. Let's say your troops sent 1000 Ukrainians for fertilizer in a week - great. But since your army is advancing at a "lightning" pace of 200m per day, during this time the Ukrainians have trained 1000 new recruits and their military potential has not changed, -1000 Khokloned-Wehrmacht, +1000 Khokloned-Wehrmacht. And the United States and Geyropa will provide them with weapons and equipment, with the "Slav brothers" in the forefront. "The king has a lot...."
    I’m not saying that every killed Khokhloschweinn is not only a valuable skin and meat, it’s at least two or three of his relatives to whom this death did not add love for Russia, although sometimes there are such “relatives” ....
    1. 0
      5 September 2022 17: 39
      Quote: Baron Pardus
      Well, let's just say you won't see children of "respectable people" from Russia at the front in the DNR/LNR. These are not the children of the Stalinist Elite ..
      - read how many sons of generals died in Chechnya at one time - being officers ...
      And yes - you get bored in OWN USA.Too much concern OUR express problems.
      Take care of the issue of kissing BLM boots

      And another nuance - when Americans died in the Pacific Ocean storming Okinawa and so on - casinos and brothels in Las Vegas were built at the same time ..
  9. +4
    1 September 2022 17: 34
    Ukrainian dissonance: Soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are dying en masse at the front, and the “golden youth” arrange parties in Kyiv
    . Come on, so everywhere where the loot rules!!!
    There are / are exceptions, but they only confirm the general rule.
  10. +13
    1 September 2022 17: 34
    And we apparently have all the "golden youth" at the front ...
  11. +10
    1 September 2022 18: 10
    Volunteer battalions are being formed in many regions of Russia to participate in the SVO. Only now I have not heard that such a formation was formed in Moscow.
  12. +4
    1 September 2022 18: 17
    ... it was in tsarist times in 1914-1918. And now in Russia it will be the same. Russian class society is fundamentally no different from Ukraine. Those who have connections will sag or leave and will go on a rampage in front of everyone.
  13. +1
    1 September 2022 18: 39
    The fore of the Sumerians hastened.
    The Russian Federation is conducting an NWO, contract soldiers and volunteers with military experience are participating.
    The Sumerians have a 3rd wave of mob (gi)bilization,
    By the way, the news was that you can get out of the Nenets for 3000 bucks.
  14. +4
    1 September 2022 20: 10
    so what? as if we were closed at 1-2 Chechen taverns and discos, or at an Afghan cafe. in the Second World War, cinemas in the MSC were closed, the conservatory in Leningrad? thump and thump ... everyone will get their own iron mitt
    1. -1
      2 September 2022 20: 32
      Quote: Sadok
      in the Second World War cinemas in MSC were closed

      in the Great Patriotic War, Stalin's son fought, like the children of many other top officials, the conversation is not about cinemas
  15. 0
    2 September 2022 08: 14
    So you need to shy away at the same time on the CPR and but on Kyiv nightlights !? Then there will definitely be a resonance! Maybe someone's son and daughter will screw up ....
  16. 0
    2 September 2022 08: 38
    Feast in Time of Plague! The same thing happened in the Russian Empire on the eve of the revolution.
  17. +2
    2 September 2022 14: 06
    Wait a second, I heard in Russia only mercenaries are sent to this special operation (War). (According to the contract, who wants to cut down the dough with their blood) or am I mistaken ???
    And they are waging a civil war and terrorist activities for money. They only pay there at the top, and they lay their heads, those who cannot pay off, as in any civilized state of the modern world.
    PS But in general, I said that the war should be waged with the country, and not with the soldiers: it's nada to bomb Kyiv!
  18. -1
    2 September 2022 14: 41
    Compensation to the family for a killed serviceman of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is officially set at 15 \fifteen\ million hryvnias.
    Ukrainian. is the budget able to withstand this, even with the official loss figures from the Ukrainian Defense Ministry?
  19. -1
    2 September 2022 20: 13
    There is no absurdity. In a bourgeois state, this is always the case - they die for the interests of the bourgeoisie, including so that the children of the bourgeoisie can have fun. dreams of conquering Russia and participating in the division of its wealth, and then panu...
  20. +1
    2 September 2022 20: 30
    you might think OUR golden youth is attacking military registration and enlistment offices
    But once upon a time it was different
  21. +2
    2 September 2022 23: 08
    And we arrange (tried) a car rally through the streets of Moscow of the rich and successful, so in this we are also no holier than the Pope
  22. Eug
    +2
    3 September 2022 06: 52
    The dissonance, of course, is purely Ukrainian - you might think that in Russia all this "golden" husks rushed in droves to military registration and enlistment offices, hospitals and collection points for aid to the front line. Perhaps the need for this activity in Russia is less than in Ukraine, but nevertheless ... PMSM, the level of volunteering in Ukraine before the start of hostilities was much higher than now in Russia, and now in Ukraine (according to those who evacuated inland) has grown significantly along with the level of patriotism, at least expressed .. in Ukraine, as in Russia, martial law has not been introduced, which means you can .. and "who said that you need to give up songs in the war? After the heart asks for music doubly in battle"... and the Ukrainian "golden" responded to this need (see YouTube) .. another thing is that the songs have been modernized ...
    1. 0
      3 September 2022 10: 19
      Quote: Eug
      than in Ukraine

      Actually, "in Ukraine" is correct. You either put on your underpants, or take off the cross - write either in Move, where "in Ukraine", or in Russian, where "in Ukraine". Surzhik is not a language.
  23. +2
    3 September 2022 12: 35
    And what is wrong?
    In our country, during any mourning, the people continue to break away, the main mass is indifferent to someone else's misfortune.
    Remember the seizure of the Palace of Culture at Dubrovka twenty years ago - people were dying, and there was a lot of fun around ...
    This is not Soviet power for you, the children of officials are not rushing to the front.
  24. +1
    4 September 2022 08: 02
    When I went to nightclubs in my youth, from what I remember there, 3-4 guys always tried to "spud" one girl. Two at best. Guys in nightclubs have always been much more than girls.
    There are several girls on the video in a nightclub for one guy. It is not surprising when hundreds of thousands of guys were sent to the grave (according to Zelensky-Podolyak, up to a million), and most of the rest are hiding from this very grave. As a result, Ukrainian "maidens" will either serve thieves or hosts in Europe for a bed and food. Svidomo Ukrainians who shouted "non-rabies" themselves turned themselves into slaves of the West and the Kyiv regime. They sold their inheritance not even for a bowl of soup, but for a carrot, which the US/NATO/EU has been promoting to Ukrainians all these years. But it was one of the richest republics of the USSR, they lived together, worked together, they could build a powerful strong state of workers and peasants. They turned into a country of beggars.
    1. 0
      5 September 2022 17: 58
      Russia is not much better, believe me. The average income of a citizen is approximately 300 euros. In Europe, it is 2500. Even adjusted for all sorts of coefficients. Ginny 2.5, it turns out 750 euros, which is 3 times less than in Europe. The average Russian lives like a European homeless man, and the average Ukrainian lives like a European beggar! State. listen to propaganda less!
      1. 0
        27 September 2022 19: 01
        Quote: Alex D_2
        Russia is not much better, believe me. The average income of a citizen is approximately 300 euros. In Europe, it is 2500. Even adjusted for all sorts of coefficients. Ginny 2.5, it turns out 750 euros, which is 3 times less than in Europe. The average Russian lives like a European homeless man, and the average Ukrainian lives like a European beggar! State. listen to propaganda less!

        What kind of fairy tales are you sculpting here? What 300 euros? Even the lowest paid job is 40 euros a day (handyman at a construction site, no education). Simple arithmetic 23 working days multiplied by 40 euros, 920 euros. And taking into account the fact that prices in Russia are lower, the standard of living is not much lower. And if you have a head, you can easily earn much more. Sitting here sculpting fairy tales.
  25. 0
    4 September 2022 18: 01
    Nothing unusual.
    There have always been and are majors and Ukraine is no exception.
    It is outrageous that ordinary guys are called in, straight from the street, who have nothing against Russia.
    1. -1
      27 September 2022 18: 57
      Quote: valentin light
      Nothing unusual.
      There have always been and are majors and Ukraine is no exception.
      It is outrageous that ordinary guys are called in, straight from the street, who have nothing against Russia.

      Exactly what? Is that what they said in captivity?
      1. -1
        28 September 2022 09: 52
        who are "they", Ukrainian majors?? :))
        1. 0
          28 September 2022 10: 40
          Quote: valentin light
          who are "they", Ukrainian majors?? :))

          Are you kidding or what? I'm talking about "simple guys who have nothing against Russia."
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            28 September 2022 11: 25
            if he took up arms, he is no longer a "simple guy" - he is a soldier of the enemy army.
            And no need for "tolstoy".
            But the very moment, according to the information available to us, the Nationalists are not mobilizing in the western regions.
            The eastern Ukrainians are being pitted and separated with blood, and this is a pity.

            Moreover, a program for propaganda should be developed and how to act so that the banderlog detachments would not shoot them.
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              30 September 2022 19: 32
              Quote: valentin light
              if he took up arms, he is no longer a "simple guy" - he is a soldier of the enemy army.
              And no need for "tolstoy".
              But the very moment, according to the information available to us, the Nationalists are not mobilizing in the western regions.
              The eastern Ukrainians are being pitted and separated with blood, and this is a pity.

              Moreover, a program for propaganda should be developed and how to act so that the banderlog detachments would not shoot them.

              WHAT!!!??? You're contradicting yourself!!!
              if he took up arms, he is no longer a "simple guy" - he is a soldier of the enemy army.
              And before that he was talking about simple guys, so decide? A simple guy who took a weapon became an enemy, he was an enemy !!! There are no ordinary guys there, nothing against Russia, even in the USSR terry Bandrelgia flourished (what kind of nonsense, I can’t insert text, what kind of idiocy?), Nicknames (which a stupid algorithm does not allow to insert) do not say anything at all? There are no such nicknames in other regions.
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                30 September 2022 19: 54
                Yes, I don’t “contradict myself” anything, but I know guys from Sumy, Dnepropetrovsk and Kharkov in the service.
                The younger generation of "Ukrainians" from 17 to 30 years old, of course, is zombified, but not all of them are 20 and 25 years old.

                I saw a video, two years before these events, and there, in the store in Dnepropetrovsk, the guys heaped "lyuley" on the "warrior" of the atoshnik and said - "it's not for you to rob people in the Donbass - Dnepropetrovsk is a Russian city."
                And there were many such videos.

                And about the fact that if you picked up a weapon, then this is so - the enemy "and guilt does not require proof."

                Nothing personal here - it's a fact.

                But you have to try to convert
  26. +1
    4 September 2022 18: 32
    it seems to me that not only in Kyiv, the party puts a bolt to the front in Moscow, too, there are not particularly queues at the military registration and enlistment office
  27. 0
    5 September 2022 17: 51
    We have no less degenerates. 8 years of war, and entertainment programs have only recently been removed, though not for long. Some simply do not realize the complexity of the situation or do not want to realize.
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      27 September 2022 18: 56
      Quote: Alex D_2
      We have no less degenerates. 8 years of war, and entertainment programs have only recently been removed, though not for long. Some simply do not realize the complexity of the situation or do not want to realize.

      What kind of war?
  28. 0
    6 September 2022 09: 53
    Are we different? The only difference is that we don't have to serve subpoenas yet. And if such a situation arises, everything will be the same. After all, our “chosen ones” are also spared from any shocks, including criminal liability and other unpleasant little things in life. But there is no dissonance in our society, it simply cannot be, because it contradicts all the laws of nature, and even those will be revised so as not to "dissonate" ...
  29. 0
    7 September 2022 11: 01
    it's time to introduce an article for discrediting golden youth
  30. 0
    20 September 2022 10: 26
    and in our country, that in the Donbass there are continuous relatives of deputies and officials?
  31. 0
    21 September 2022 19: 41
    Yes, we are no better, we must admit. The guys are dying there, and blows are inflicted on Russia, and the country is still having fun ................
  32. 0
    27 September 2022 18: 55
    Yes, in general, in parallel with what is happening there. It's even good, let there be scandals, they will spend more of their strength and lower morale.
  33. 0
    25 October 2022 07: 30
    It's not better here, different competitions are shown on TV, and foreheads of military age sit on the jury.