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The Vatican responded to Kyiv's attacks because of the Pope's words of regret over the death of Daria Dugina

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The main purpose of the statements of the head of the Holy See and his associates is a call to prayer and the establishment of peace. So the Vatican responded to the attacks of Kyiv because of the words of regret of Pope Francis over the death of Russian journalist Daria Dugina.

This is stated in a statement by his press service.

At the residence of the Pope, they advised not to look for any political subtext in the words of the pontiff.

The words of the Holy Father on this dramatic issue should be seen as a voice raised in defense of human life and the values ​​associated with it.

- said the press service of the Holy See.

At the same time, representatives of the Vatican recalled that earlier Pope Francis had repeatedly condemned the Russian special operation in Ukraine.

Earlier, the papal nuncio archbishop Visvaldas Kulbokas was summoned to the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry. He was told that the Kyiv authorities were "disappointed" by the words of the Pope, who expressed condolences over the death of Daria Dugina, calling her "an innocent victim of the war."


We carefully read the full quote of Pope Francis and decided to invite the Apostolic Nuncio to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to express Ukraine's disappointment with these words

- said the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry Dmitry Kuleba.

He noted that the call of the nuncio to the Foreign Ministry is "an unprecedented case."

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  1. Alexga
    Alexga 30 August 2022 16: 39
    +49
    We carefully read the full quote of Pope Francis and decided to invite the Apostolic Nuncio to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to express Ukraine's disappointment with these words

    Frozen nation! There is no concept of morality at all. Burn them in Hell.
    1. Ural_engineer
      Ural_engineer 30 August 2022 16: 44
      +8
      here, as it were, a variant from the opera - "the toad had a viper"
      1. Machito
        Machito 30 August 2022 16: 54
        +9
        Daddies are still those murderers, worse than Chikatilo. How many people have been killed with the blessing of the daddies? And how daddy passionately kissed Hitler? Nothing sacred, just money on my mind.
        1. Cat Alexandrovich
          Cat Alexandrovich 30 August 2022 17: 34
          +6
          How is it just money? How about eating and walking? What about chorus boys?
    2. Plate
      Plate 30 August 2022 17: 15
      +8
      Yeah. Campaign there does not arise at all the thought that it is possible to oppose the deaths of people, no matter what side they are on and no matter what community they belong to.
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 30 August 2022 17: 36
        +2
        ...that it is possible to speak out against the deaths of people...

        Well, for example, they trumpeted the whole world about those killed in Bucha.
        1. Plate
          Plate 30 August 2022 22: 11
          +2
          No, not for the dead. Have you heard from Kyiv condolences to the families of the victims, to themselves, their regret about the death of civilians? Personally, I heard only empty accusations.
    3. laws70
      laws70 30 August 2022 17: 22
      +4
      Frozen nation! There is no concept of morality at all. Burn them in Hell.

      A gang of cheap comedians, ready to sacrifice their own interests for the life of anyone at all!
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 30 August 2022 17: 33
        +1
        ...of life's own interests...

        And what do they want? personal greatness? So it will not be in the current scenario. For the benefit to society? Also past. Of course, grandmothers and a house by the warm sea remain. So you won't cheat for the rest of your life.
        1. laws70
          laws70 30 August 2022 19: 08
          +2
          And what do they want? personal greatness?

          There will be no greatness in any case. Money has already been stolen for two lives clearly. It's just that these people are not even rotten, but rotten through and through ..
    4. gansales
      gansales 30 August 2022 17: 24
      +9
      Quote: AlexGa
      Frozen nation! There is no concept of morality at all. Burn them in Hell.

      In their opinion, dad should jump for happiness after the contract killing of a girl .. This clinic is already
    5. Leonidych
      Leonidych 30 August 2022 18: 30
      0
      Goofed to the edge. Vaasche coast beguiled.
    6. Mister X
      Mister X 30 August 2022 19: 12
      +1
      papal nuncio archbishop was summoned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine...

      Well, just looking at Europe.
      Build and teach everyone.
      Why be surprised?
      Just look at how refugee children behave in public transport...
    7. Pavel Burtovoy
      Pavel Burtovoy 31 August 2022 01: 11
      -6
      That is, according to the statements of one idiot, you judge a nation? Are you a Nazi (like half of the finished commentators here) or an idiot? According to Medvedev's statements, according to your logic, I can conclude that the Russians are just as frostbitten.
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 31 August 2022 06: 13
        +1
        Quote: Pavel Burtovoy
        That is, according to the statements of one idiot, you judge a nation?

        These, as you put it, "idiots" today determine the vector of development of the state. In addition, no one from the "nation" criticized his words; "nation" as a whole agrees. The stench from the Ukrainian Internet only confirms the idea that a significant part of this "nation" is even more frostbitten by its leaders. So, for starters, you yourself decide in which trench you belong .... Your interlocutor appreciated the general opinion of a fairly wide range of citizens of Ukraine, while he did not call for their murder and did not say that Russia was "over the top". Your suspicion of him in Nazism is groundless. You obviously yourself are slightly confused in the definitions of social phenomena.
        1. Pavel Burtovoy
          Pavel Burtovoy 31 August 2022 11: 54
          0
          There are enough idiots who determine the vector of development and the stink on the Internet in Russia. And no one publicly condemns. It is clear why. And the interlocutor does not know for sure who and what in Ukraine thinks about the statements of one idiot, but he made a conclusion. Called to burn in hell. This is a peace call, right? And a call to the Russian world, there are no Ukrainians, we are all Russians... this is not chauvinism, right? The interlocutor, if not a Nazi, is an idiot. There are exactly the same processes in Russian society: idiots like Medvedev and there is no public condemnation. But to say that the Russian interlocutor is frostbitten is not taken.
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 31 August 2022 12: 02
            +1
            Quote: Pavel Burtovoy
            idiots like Medvedev

            Do you consider yourself smarter than Medvedev? Why aren't you in his place? You know, understanding the limits of your competence is a manifestation of sanity. And yet, this "Russian world" is not only ethnic Russians. There is enough space for everyone who supports the traditional views of the world, characteristic of the Russian people.
            1. Pavel Burtovoy
              Pavel Burtovoy 31 August 2022 13: 49
              -3
              Being a high-ranking official does not mean not being an idiot. Idiocy is judged by actions and statements. Medvedev proved everything to everyone a long time ago.
            2. Pavel Burtovoy
              Pavel Burtovoy 31 August 2022 14: 04
              -3
              Everyone now throws words about traditional values. Where is one common definition of what it is? Uzbekistan has traditional values. Their. What are they in Russia? And I am sure that as soon as someone starts listing, it will suddenly turn out that not a single person in the Kremlin follows them. But it is from there that the constant propaganda of these very mythical values ​​​​comes. Traditional marriages in the country with the highest number of abortions and divorces. Where almost the entire stage is a bunch of moral freaks. Excellent values. And we have someone else condemned. Put yourself in order first. Then their dirty smelly paws site to other countries. Smarties.
        2. Pavel Burtovoy
          Pavel Burtovoy 31 August 2022 11: 57
          -3
          And about the trenches. Only an uneducated, under-volt (outside) or strongly offended by the authorities (Russian, Ukrainian) can decide on a place in the trench. Killing your relatives (and in Russia there are a huge number of people with relatives in Ukraine) and joyfully screaming about how many were killed every day, it's wonderful
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 31 August 2022 13: 45
            +2
            Quote: Pavel Burtovoy
            And about the trenches. Only an uneducated, under-volt (outside) or strongly offended by the authorities (Russian, Ukrainian) can decide on a place in the trench. Killing your relatives (and in Russia there are a huge number of people with relatives in Ukraine) and joyfully screaming about how many were killed every day, it's wonderful

            I see you did not understand my figurative statement. I explain: a place in a trench is the ideological position that you adhere to. Recently, post-Maidan Ukraine has become an instrument of aggressive US policy aimed at destroying my (and possibly your) country. Moreover, for the United States, the fate of the population of this "instrument" is completely indifferent. Educated people understand the essence of the ongoing conflict and the goals pursued by its parties. Judging by your statement, you did not quite understand this, as well as what place in this conflict is occupied by the persons personifying the Zelensky regime, and those bloggers who admire the terrorist actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the civilian sector of eastern Ukraine and the LDNR. No one in Russia rejoices at the murder of Ukrainians. And during the ongoing operation, they have an alternative - to fight against the RF Armed Forces or surrender to them in the reasonable hope of surviving the operation and participating in the construction of a normal, non-nationalist state on the territory of Ukraine. Those who choose war .... well, they will fall under the rink of the military machine of the Russian Federation. This is their choice. And you also have to decide - for whom you are in this situation ... There is no other way.
            1. Pavel Burtovoy
              Pavel Burtovoy 31 August 2022 13: 59
              -2
              In the answer about the trenches, take into account the ideological position. Not only literally. I do not have a single reason to take the Russian or Ukrainian side (we are talking about the actions of governments). That some that others are waiting for a tribunal (I hope, not like it will be with Gorbachev and Yeltsin). Both sides are responsible for the conflict. For each of your thesis about Ukraine, I can answer: in Russia it is fundamentally the same. In Russia, for the last 10 years, there has also been a tough propaganda based on the ideas of Mussolini, Ilyin, home-grown ones like Surkov. The principles are the same (solidarism, spiritual bonds, obscurantism, and over all this the power of several oligarchic clans sponsoring this project is invisible). I do not understand the desire to "do better" in Ukraine, despite the fact that inside the problems are the same, but no one is going to fix them. Everything that the guarantor said about Ukraine on the eve of the 24th applies 100% to Russia. Interestingly, he himself understood what he said ....
              1. Hagen
                Hagen 31 August 2022 14: 07
                0
                Quote: Pavel Burtovoy
                I do not have a single reason to take the Russian or Ukrainian side (we are talking about the actions of governments).

                Position ..... flower in the hole. "... With what measure you measure, it will be measured to you." Nothing to talk about...
                1. Pavel Burtovoy
                  Pavel Burtovoy 31 August 2022 14: 29
                  -2
                  And you need to apparently divide the world into white and black. We are good, they are bad. So of course it's easier, the brain is resting. History teaches no one. There are situations when it is more white and more black. But not at this time. Two rotten governments are sorting out among themselves and are calling for a side. For me, one stinks, and the other. Who likes - sniff.
                  1. Hagen
                    Hagen 31 August 2022 14: 33
                    0
                    Quote: Pavel Burtovoy
                    Two rotten governments make out

                    First, rotten governments are not, but the brains of traitors who imagine themselves to be judges. For the West is waging a war to destroy the entire country, not the government. Secondly, read the entire previously written post.
                    1. Pavel Burtovoy
                      Pavel Burtovoy 31 August 2022 14: 44
                      -3
                      How about traditional values? What kind of war is the West waging? Where are the attacking divisions? Tanks, planes. There is a competitive struggle between all states. The same as a hundred years ago. There is no need to attribute any spiritual or ideological traits to this struggle. The ideological struggle between the collective shchapado and Russia was fought once during the Soviet era.
                      All. Russia has joined the club and behaves in the same way towards the entire post-Soviet periphery, in Africa and Latin America, like the United States, Europe, biting off fatter pieces, entering into alliances with other players, giving bribes and conducting military operations through PMCs. And now SVO. The army is a tool in the hands of the ruling class. No need to tell me about good Russia and the bad West. Where Russian business has taken possession of something, the same exploitation and draining of resources is going on. Now they are pulling on this clumsy ideologeme about the Russian world, a special path (hello Mussolini), and so on. In short, wake up already.
                    2. Pavel Burtovoy
                      Pavel Burtovoy 31 August 2022 14: 49
                      -3
                      There are enemies and traitors all around))) everyone who has a different opinion) and the Russian government, which is rotten and smelly) there are only traitors there. They have already destroyed one country (yes, Putin also participated) and now they are going to finish off what is left.
      2. Turtle
        Turtle 31 August 2022 07: 06
        0
        I would not like to share my thoughts about the rules for conducting genocide, the ethical justification of massacres and the social benefits of filtration camps, they will not appreciate this here and, without finding counterarguments, they will most likely be banned. But you can pay attention to the fact that the Sumerian "diplomat" expressed regret on behalf of the whole of Ukraine. Here's a face...

        PS. And do not look in my words for more than what I said: I am not a Nazi, but I have a bunch of arguments, and irrefutable arguments "in favor", based on the continuous development of mankind.
    8. Pravodel
      Pravodel 31 August 2022 14: 09
      0
      Frozen nation! There is no concept of morality at all. Burn them in Hell.

      Small edit. Not a nation, but Nazis, Banderlogs, who seized power in Ukraine.
      Ukraine is Russia, and Russian people live there who fell under the power of Banderlogs... Of course, every nation is worthy of its rulers. But here, in Ukraine, it is an example for us Russians living in Russia. An example of what the betrayal of one's ideals turns into, the betrayal of the graves of one's fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers. An example of what Russia should not and cannot afford to do with itself to external and internal forces - traitors to Russia ... Ukraine is a fragment of the USSR that has reached the limit in worshiping the West. Thank God that Russia realized in time where this worship, which began in the late 80s in the USSR, could lead it. This did not happen with Ukraine, and therefore Ukraine itself has reached the last line, which now Russia has to clear... And Russia will definitely do it. Russia will certainly cleanse its land of the scum that has seized it ... But how much after that the Russians themselves will have to be treated on the returned lands, this is a special question .... But Russia can cope with this too ..
  2. Ural_engineer
    Ural_engineer 30 August 2022 16: 42
    +7
    Come on, this dad is still a freak. All this "holy inquisition" is vile and deceitful fascists. No Nazi concentration camps dreamed of so many atrocities justified by "faith".
    1. max702
      max702 30 August 2022 16: 53
      +1
      Winter is coming .. And the gas is moving ..
      1. valentine light
        valentine light 30 August 2022 18: 17
        -1
        Those who are at the top of the "European food pyramid" will not freeze, and the average person in Europe has never been spared for the sake of their goals.
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 30 August 2022 16: 46
    +2
    The words of the Holy Father on this dramatic issue should be seen as a voice raised in defense of human life and the values ​​associated with it.
    recourse Well, still, Holy Father, a curse on the servants of the devil and their icon Hitler would not hurt, for clarity. recourse True, then it will be necessary to send a new ambassador to Dill. For the current one is somewhere at the sawmill ....... This is the tradition. request
  4. Uprun
    Uprun 30 August 2022 16: 48
    +9
    The mongrel opened her mouth to a clergyman, but not quite an ordinary one ...., even a can does not allow such a thing to himself ..., but is this all possible? Gopota unwashed, unshaven, underfence pack of scum.
    1. Ural_engineer
      Ural_engineer 30 August 2022 16: 50
      -15
      What rank is your pope? Well, if not ordinary? By the way, you're Catholic, aren't you?
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 30 August 2022 16: 52
    +6
    Well, father, is it uncomfortable to sit on two chairs? Here we condemn, here we grieve, but in the end it doesn’t matter, they poke a herring in the face.
  6. Egoza
    Egoza 30 August 2022 16: 52
    +2
    One thing is good - Zelya wanted to invite the Pope to Kyiv. This would greatly raise his rating, especially in memory and in Europe. However, after such an "angry response from the ukrov authorities" figurines, the Pope will come to Kyiv.
    1. Leshak
      Leshak 30 August 2022 18: 32
      +1
      I think it will go. He will wipe himself off, like the same Scholz, and pretend that nothing happened. Ukrov have carte blanche to insult and express dissatisfaction. So far, they are allowed quite a lot.
  7. Vita vko
    Vita vko 30 August 2022 16: 52
    +1
    Even if the Pope expressed regret, when will the Government of Russia deign to recognize the Kyiv regime as TERRORISM?
  8. Igor_Aretano
    Igor_Aretano 30 August 2022 16: 53
    +2
    Couple - he is wise. How many states in Europe have disappeared from the political map during the existence of the Catholic Church? And she is. So the Pope will not take one side of the two. Has the nuncio been summoned? Oh, and Mussolini called, and they called in Slovakia ... Dad, I think it's funny. Especially when he is called to the carpet by the bosses in a non-Catholic country.
  9. DeGreen
    DeGreen 30 August 2022 17: 05
    +2
    Ukrainians also noted here
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 30 August 2022 17: 09
    +4
    Well, what to take with the raguli, even the Pope was blown away by such impudence.
  11. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 30 August 2022 17: 15
    +5
    He noted that the call of the nuncio to the Foreign Ministry is "an unprecedented case."
    The current Outskirts, in itself, is an "unprecedented case" of idiocy.
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  13. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 30 August 2022 17: 19
    0
    Who does he think he is, this Pope? He was told: "to be disappointed" in "regret" means that he must be disappointed, and not justify himself. What, does not see whose church rules the world? One more time he'll be so fucked up, he'll have to deal with the Godfather.
  14. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 30 August 2022 17: 51
    0
    Visvaldas Kulbokas

    Never say this at night and by candlelight am wassat
  15. blackcat
    blackcat 30 August 2022 17: 55
    -1
    "The words of the Holy Father on this dramatic issue should be seen as a voice raised in defense of human life and the values ​​associated with it." So that’s exactly why they called, they have long multiplied the value of human life by zero, I wouldn’t be surprised if some Azov milady with a bomb was also sent to dad am
  16. valentine light
    valentine light 30 August 2022 17: 58
    -1
    Quote: "... At the same time, representatives of the Vatican recalled that earlier Pope Francis had repeatedly condemned the Russian ...."

    Was the Vatican afraid of Zelensky and his gang, since they started making excuses?

    Good words were about prayer and about the value of life and this particular girl Daria Dugina.
    Why make excuses to Bandera?
  17. wandlitz
    wandlitz 30 August 2022 18: 06
    +2
    The Sumerians definitely consider themselves holier than the Pope....
    1. Huzhzhu
      Huzhzhu 30 August 2022 19: 27
      -1
      They would have to remember Pushkin's "The Tale of the Old Man and the Goldfish", so as not to be left with nothing ... However, the result is already obvious.
  18. Oleg Ogorod
    Oleg Ogorod 30 August 2022 19: 15
    -1
    They also called dad an offended liverwurst? Or dry pizza?
    It seems that they are on the outskirts of Europe and Russia, they imagine themselves to be the center of the world. Comedians from the neighborhood.
  19. Huzhzhu
    Huzhzhu 30 August 2022 19: 23
    -1
    From the category: "Put the pig at the table, she and her legs on the table" ... And why only the nuncio, it was necessary to immediately call the Pope "on the carpet" .... Well, frostbitten ...
  20. Turtle
    Turtle 31 August 2022 06: 39
    0
    Well, yes. Teach Dad how to jump so that the pan does not fly off his head. The lack of money for the salaries of Ukrainian psychiatrists is affecting...
  21. Denis812
    Denis812 1 September 2022 15: 47
    0
    Ukraine has decided to take a shit with everyone, I see. :)
    Comrades are on the right path :%)))