The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced the use of a chemical warfare agent against the Russian military in the Zaporozhye region

The Russian Ministry of Defense reports on the mass poisoning of Russian servicemen in the Zaporozhye region.

The reports say that after completing the mission in the city of Vasilyevka, Zaporozhye region, many Russian military began to complain of feeling unwell (about 3 weeks ago). At the same time, the condition deteriorated markedly. The decision was made for emergency hospitalization.

A laboratory analysis of the blood of the military personnel of the RF Armed Forces was carried out, as a result of which it was found that the substance botulinum toxin type "B" was used against soldiers and officers. It is a neurotoxic poison and is one of the most dangerous poisons. Even the smallest dosage of such a substance can cause irreversible consequences for the human body, up to death.

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reports that on the basis of the chemical warfare agent used by the enemy against the Russian military, a decision will be made to collect the entire evidence base confirming the fact of chemical terrorism by the Kyiv regime.

The Russian Defense Ministry emphasizes that the use of such a substance could not but be authorized by the top leadership of Ukraine, including President Zelensky.

At the same time, a picture is emerging related to the data on the poisoning of the head of the Kherson administration, Vladimir Saldo, with military chemicals. Recall that a few days ago he was urgently hospitalized in the intensive care unit of the Sklifosovsky Research Institute in Moscow.

It turns out that the Ukrainian regime also signs for the use of chemical warfare agents, which violates all conventions on the conduct of hostilities. More proof that the Kyiv regime is a typical example of a terrorist conglomerate ready to do anything in the interests of its Western sponsors.

For reference: Type B botulinum toxin was adopted by the US Army in the mid-1970s. Code designation - XR. In the United States, significant arsenals of this BOV (chemical warfare agent) are still stored, including at the Pine Bluff military base.

Comments

[SaLaR]

Waiting for another concern....

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: SaLaR

Waiting for another concern....

Better not "concern", but a specific "reciprocal anger"!

[SSR]

Quote: bouncyhunter

specific "reciprocal anger"!

There is no anger, but a clear understanding by all of us that for the Western world we are third-class people, we can be poisoned, genocide, experimented, our voice is an empty sound for them.
The NWO must continue until NATO collapses.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote from S.S.R.

NWO must continue until NATO collapses

I , of course , do not mind such a formulation of the question . But I'm not sure that the means are comparable to the goal.

[SSR]

Quote: bouncyhunter

But I'm not sure that the means are comparable to the goal.

Everything has already been done, the main thing is to maintain the current state, if there is a decline in production in Europe, a rise in prices, a shortage of energy resources, then Exites from the European Union may begin to begin, before the start of the NWO, ours announced the conditions, the rollback of NATO, including for the Germans and the French, the withdrawal of the same Balts from NATO may be a completely acceptable solution.

[bouncyhunter]

Roman, I don't want to look so far into the future of the West. But I REALLY hope they don't have fun. I'm not a sadist, just fair.

[military_cat]

it was established that the substance botulinum toxin was used against soldiers and officers

Seriously? How many soldiers and officers fell ill with botulism, and they saw this not as spoiled food, but as a biological attack of the enemy?

[Shurik70]

Quote: SaLaR

Waiting for another concern....

Either way, the United States should be accused of supplying chemical weapons to Ukraine.
Evidence can not be bothered - there are simply no other sources.

[aglet]

"and they saw this not as spoiled food, but as a biological attack of the enemy?"
but it's easier than providing food for soldiers with quality products. the enemy is to blame for everything, that's why he is the enemy

[Flooding]

Quote: aglet

it's easier than providing food for soldiers with quality products. the enemy is to blame for everything, that's why he is the enemy

Both versions need to be investigated.
In fact, our military got sick with botulism.
And most likely the reason is poor quality food.
That does not cancel sabotage.

[aglet]

"What does not cancel sabotage"
the method of using the poison, how can you tell me the weapons?

[AlexeyEg]

It is enough to spray 100 gr over Moscow to poison everyone.

[aglet]

"It is enough to spray 100 gr over Moscow to poison everyone"
Well, it's over Moscow. But how did these poisoned people survive in Vasilyevka? no one reported mass poisonings, although there are fewer people there than in Moscow

[AlexeyEg]

Due to the lower population density, there were also fewer cases of mass poisoning. And perhaps this protein is unstable to Solar UV, or some other factors that helped not bring it to a terrible point.

[alex-cn]

Mr. Powell had enough test tubes of God knows what to justify a strike on Iraq. We have the fact of poisoning ... you can make noise and thunder in the same UN ... and expand the production and use of the same TOS.

[aglet]

"We have a fact of poisoning."
and during the investigation it turns out that the soldaten pulled home canned food from the house of a civilian, and poisoned themselves. and somehow strangely poisoned - there is no cure for the toxin, but there are survivors

[alex-cn]

I specifically wrote that there was a fact of poisoning, but did not write the reasons. The main thing is to correctly present information ... "highly laickly", as the British said, when there was nothing to lie ... let them prove that they are not a camel ...
PS after the newcomer, there shouldn't have been any survivors either ...

[Alexander Salenko]

And what about sadism? No, this is justice. And there is no need to worry about ordinary citizens, did they vote for such a leadership? Accordingly, in connection with democratic norms, they are responsible for his actions.
Was someone very worried when the Crimea was de-energized? How many people were lying on operating tables at that moment, how many women were giving birth, and so on? Yes, it’s trite, some kind of granny lives on the 6th floor, go for bread and milk when the elevator is not working. Of course, we got out, we went for them, but just leaving the house is already a great happiness for an elderly person.

[Myths]

Unfortunately, no one will allow them to leave NATO, because. they are occupying forces, not good friends. The power over the territories will be under control, and they wanted to spit on people and their opinions. For the exit of countries from NATO, it is necessary that economic interests be at least equally as in the European Union and the power was independent of the decision of the owners. But who will allow it peacefully. And if it is aggressive, then a change of power, a rejection of NATO, an exit from the bloc, but this is a break in relations with the owners.

[Zyablicev43]

There is a proposal ... Introduce a "Table of Ranks of the Sofa Troops" ... Well, somewhere from "Corporal Agitprop" to "Strategist of Absurdity" ... Such stupid mistakes are sometimes issued ... that you scratch your bald spot, and you think, what is it? Either ... (I don’t want to offend) ..., or ... (I don’t want to either). So, what are the suggestions?

[pndm]

There won't be anything like that, unfortunately. The resources of NATO and the EU are enormous. This must be realized.

[Zhan]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Quote from S.S.R.

NWO must continue until NATO collapses

I , of course , do not mind such a formulation of the question . But I'm not sure that the means are comparable to the goal.

Good evening. I myself have long thought that it is necessary for NATO to cease to exist? This is only a war of attrition or something out of the ordinary must happen. For example, some kind of natural disaster that will bury England and the United States. Many countries want to get rid of these parasites, but not many will dare to take such a step. The first to decide on the list are Russia, Belarus, China, North Korea, Venezuela, Brazil, India, almost all of North Africa, except Israel. We are not so few. And part of the country has a nuclear capability. Yes, many have already offered us their help in the NWO, but this is a direct path to the third world war, we will untie NATO's hands for direct hostilities. I have only one conclusion, to bring NWO to the western borders on my own, without involving anyone yet. But as soon as regular NATO troops in Ukraine are involved, I think you can safely attract allies. Old Man Lukashenko warned Poland and Tribaltia. And it is better to conduct ideological work in Western countries, many already understand this, but not many will go for it.

[bouncyhunter]

Kind , Zhan I agree with you , especially that NATO 's hands must not be untied . Although they only dream about that (according to them, but no more ).

Quote: Zhan

as soon as regular NATO troops are involved in
Ukraine

Not "only", but "if" will be.

Quote: Zhan

you can safely attract allies

Not "can", but "should". Many volunteers will go against fascism and Nazis.

[Doliva63]

"... what is needed for NATO to cease to exist? Is it just a war of attrition or something out of the ordinary must happen."
I think that no reasons other than economic ones can affect NATO - it will "deflate" itself when American and Western European corporations are replaced by other, more powerful ones. For example, Chinese and Indian. And another military bloc will appear, which will cement their interests in the region and in the world. And the Russian Federation will again be dissatisfied with the expansion of another bloc, but to the west. And it is already on the sly - China, for example, is gradually settling in Central Asia, including Kazakhstan. So, perhaps the collapse of NATO will happen in our lifetime. And we will raise 100 gr. for the winner

[Alexander Salenko]

They forgot to mention Iran, Iran has been opposing them almost all my life.

[AUL]

By decision-making centers, you say? Or will we draw another red line, closer to the Kremlin?

[Commodore Arctic]

Ours are worried about one Red line - drawn along Rublyovka

[My doctor]

Quote from S.S.R.

The NWO must continue until NATO collapses.

I would not trust the words about the loss of the West so much. Perhaps we wishful thinking and we are told what we want to hear. And the problems that began in the West in connection with the sanctions may not lead to what we are all waiting for. After all, as they say: while the fat one dries, the thin one dies.
This is my subjective opinion, but remember how long we expected Ukraine to freeze next winter and how some unfulfilled expectations were replaced by others. As soon as one broke off, we forgot about it as if these forecasts did not exist, and immediately began to wait for another miracle from scratch.

[SSR]

Quote: MyVrach

This is my subjective opinion, but remember how long we expected Ukraine to freeze next winter and how some unfulfilled expectations were replaced by others.

We all have only "subjective" opinions here, strategists play for a long time, the path to achieving goals and objectives can last for decades, we need to learn from the impudent Saxons, now few people remember that fascism in Ukraine flourished already under the USSR, the proverbial "ruh" from "intellectuals".

[Alexander Salenko]

Ukraine did not freeze for one single reason, the decline in industrial production. It seems like a trifle, but the Rosinka plant closed, by the way, he made good drinks. The BAZ closed, and this is already a bus production, and figs with it that the Indians supplied the engines, bungling it all into a bus is energy-intensive, here is the sewing production and rubber.
What is the price of gas now?
No, they will not die out like mammoths, but they already have a problem.

[Alexander Salenko]

And this is the right position, I suggest, if we do not have OM in mass quantities, but at least fill it with bird cherry, throw it from the same mortars.

[danil23518]

Not .. We are not like that. We are kind and fluffy. Our brothers are there, Putin said.

[poquello]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Quote: SaLaR

Waiting for another concern....

Better not "concern", but a specific "reciprocal anger"!

Duc "In the United States, significant arsenals with this BOV (chemical warfare agent) are still stored, including at the Pine Bluff military base."
in the case of an American trace and in case of refusal to assist in the investigation, launch a dozen daggers there and let them figure it out later

[My doctor]

Quote: poquello

in the case of an American trace and in case of refusal to assist in the investigation, launch a dozen daggers there and let them figure it out later

what is the beauty of this poison? in that it is common in nature, unlike the "newbie" from wiki.

Clostridium botulinum, being obligate anaerobes, can reproduce only in conditions of complete absence of oxygen. As a rule, these are canned and sausage products (especially canned fried mushrooms and meat and fish harvested in large pieces with damage to the surface).

And from RIA Novosti

According to Nikulin, botulinum toxin is a substance of animal origin, not a biological weapon.

On my own behalf, let me remind you of the position of the GDP and the Foreign Ministry on the categorical prevention of a military conflict between the two nuclear powers. No one will understand either Russia or the United States, the answer should always be the same, and it is the main, the only, the cornerstone, the main one, etc. restraining factor.

[poquello]

Quote: MyVrach

And from RIA Novosti
According to Nikulin, botulinum toxin is a substance of animal origin, not a biological weapon.

really? "Botulinum toxin has been recognized as a potential agent for use in bioterrorism."
Botulism, Botulinum Toxin, and Bioterrorism: Review and Update © 2004 Cliggott Publishing, Division of CMP Healthcare Media

[My doctor]

Quote: poquello

"Botulinum toxin has been recognized as a potential agent for use in bioterrorism."

I'm dumb, I don't get the connection.

[alex-cn]

being a toxic substance, botulinum toxin is not an infectious agent, so if the bacteria themselves spread, then we could talk about biological weapons

[dmi.pris1]

Anger, this is Pasha with us. For those who make decisions, apparently they don’t reach anger. Toli we take to starvation, roofing felts "as if something were not there" according to Chekhov. But here it turns out that weapons of mass destruction were used against our military. I don’t understand why are we treading water?

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: dmi.pris

I don't understand why we're marking time?

Dim, you are not the only one who does not understand this, believe me ...

[Repellent]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Quote: dmi.pris

I don't understand why we're marking time?

Dim, you are not the only one who does not understand this, believe me ...

Hi,

Guys, I understand - Saturday evening, but:

- what is written in the article (type B) never had a weapon
- who used it and how - a mystery (the military got hurt, but the civilians? And the cattle, sorry, Goss ...?)

It looks like a duck. IMHO.

[aglet]

"It looks like a duck. IMHO."
more for spoiled canned food

[SSR]

Quote: aglet

"It looks like a duck. IMHO."
more for spoiled canned food

With canned goods spoiled in this way, they do not survive, comrade. This is purely for reference.

[aglet]

"From canned food spoiled in this way, they do not survive, comrade"
I don’t argue, but also from a toxin as a weapon, too

[28st region]

Remember, in the initial period of the NWO, the Nazis posted footage on the network where they mock our prisoners by shooting them in the legs. Then they doused it with fuel and burned it. They handed over these shots to the UN. There he expressed concern and sort of decided to convene a commission to investigate this particular war crime.
Has anyone heard or read how the investigation is going? That's what I didn't hear.

[YOUR]

It seems that specialists from the OSCE, from the UN, the war crimes commission are not particularly interested in these facts

[Maz]

Quote: Sergio_7

It turns out that the Ukrainian regime also signs for the use of chemical warfare agents, which violates all conventions on the conduct of hostilities. More proof that the Kyiv regime, a typical example of a terrorist conglomerate, is ready to do anything in the interests of its Western sponsors.

Am I the only one surprised by what happened? And all because kuevu gets away with everything! I hope that, in addition to "expressing concern," countermeasures will be adequate!

And I would not rush to conclusions, maybe they specifically want to not get away with it? or got away with it? maybe it's time to hammer on the conductors?

[Normann]

Start a third? Nothing that we will ruin the planet with the entire population?

[Alexandr2637]

Not we. Otherwise we will be killed. And then don't care. No Russia - not the rest!

[Mwg]

With a lament "if only there was no war," we pissed off the USSR

[Tatyana Zabara]

I agree with you, it's high time to hit the decision-making centers and not only in Ukraine. Are we really going to wait until similar substances are used in Russia? Unclear. In my opinion, the United States and Great Britain have become insolent, because. sure that the territories of their countries will not be affected.

[Blade3]

Are you writing your slogans about concern against the backdrop of a special operation?

[aglet]

"Are you writing about concern against the backdrop of a special operation?"
no that you. concern appeared earlier, this is the main reaction of the Russian authorities when something is pinched on them

[Imperium_Aeterna]

To be fair, it could have been both food poisoning and chemistry. If food, then the question is what the fighters ate and who cooked.
If BOV, then this is the edge and it is no longer possible to get away with this under any circumstances.

[Thrifty]

Yes, this "legislative framework" was not given in the fig! Stop disgracing yourself! Don't give a damn about any "world opinion", and pour napalm on the trite positions of the Vushniks! Stop playing liberalism! Actively use napalm and white phosphorus against these scoundrels !!!

[AdAstra]

Nooo, what are you, we are fighting humanely.

[Taimen]

It is necessary to make guns to fire at the enemy with bouquets of flowers and bombs with sweets, instead of napalm, fill them with vodka. behind the hillock, to answer with bows, as in Japan to the emperor.

[Sergey3]

And vodka is a good idea, if you drop enough of it, then in an hour it will be possible to take their positions with your bare hands.

[Vlodek]

and fat? what about fat???
vodka without bacon will not go to urkam

[Sergey Kuzmin]

Waiting for another concern....

not only concern, but also the desire for a peaceful settlement ...))) And this use of chemical warfare agents was carried out against the backdrop of the "peacekeeping" Turkish mission in Ukraine ... Well, things ... ours are being poisoned with US chemical warfare agents, and the Turks " lick "that caudle of ukroterrorists who organize the use of the use of military use of poisonous substances

[private person]

a decision will be made to collect the entire evidence base confirming the fact of chemical terrorism by the Kyiv regime.

And that they scared the hedgehog with a bare booty. To whom do they want to present this evidence, who will take it into account? Turned upside down, as a result, Russia will also be made guilty. It is necessary to act, to powder the area where these substances were used.

[Snail N9]

Botulinum toxin... Hm. As I understand it, the version - "expired canned food" from a "cunning supplier" or "dug out in the ruins, trophy smoked meats - or canned food" is not even taken into account? Immediately, "chemical weapons"?

[alex-cn]

Mr. Powell shook a test tube with no one knows what and got permission for Iraq...
Now let them prove their non-camelism, now it is important to keep the WMD version as long and loud as possible
After the Newbie, there shouldn't have been any survivors either...

[Commodore Arctic]

and we sharpen the red pencil - it is already dull, Draw red lines - everywhere

[Sergio_7]

It turns out that the Ukrainian regime also signs for the use of chemical warfare agents, which violates all conventions on the conduct of hostilities. More proof that the Kyiv regime, a typical example of a terrorist conglomerate, is ready to do anything in the interests of its Western sponsors.

Am I the only one surprised by what happened? And all because kuevu gets away with everything! I hope that, in addition to "expressing concern," countermeasures will be adequate!

[Chronos]

To be honest, it is not clear why the Ministry of Defense was silent for almost a month and suddenly decided to report. What happened?

[Imperium_Aeterna]

3 weeks ago, as written.

[isv000]

Quote from: Imperium_Aeterna

3 weeks ago, as written.

You count in minutes!

[HAM]

It must be assumed that an examination by chemists is not done in one hour and one must be sure of the charges

[iouris]

Enough about "conventions". Everything is cancelled. RKhBZ troops must work on the front lines. OPCW and IAEA v. RF. The enemy uses WMD. The response must be prompt and effective. And you don't have to complain anymore. We were expelled from everywhere.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: iouris

Enough about "conventions". Everything is cancelled. RKhBZ troops must work on the front lines. OPCW and IAEA v. RF. The enemy uses WMD. The response must be prompt and effective. And you don't have to complain anymore. We were expelled from everywhere.

If the food was poisoned, then RHBZ will not help. And the Ukrainians, who were attracted to work in the kitchen, could have poisoned them.

[Jose]

Yes, but the poisoning was not just poison, but BOV.

[Or me]

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Yesterday, 16: 43
If the food was poisoned, then RHBZ will not help. And the Ukrainians, who were attracted to work in the kitchen, could have poisoned them.

Where did you see people from outside in the kitchens of military units?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Elijah

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Yesterday, 16: 43
If the food was poisoned, then RHBZ will not help. And the Ukrainians, who were attracted to work in the kitchen, could have poisoned them.

Where did you see people from outside in the kitchens of military units?

Yes, they always do.

[Or me]

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Yesterday, 12: 05
N Yes, they always recruit.

Doesn't sound convincing at all. No facts. Well, if only in the army you represent, then YES.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Elijah

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Yesterday, 12: 05
N Yes, they always recruit.

Doesn't sound convincing at all. No facts. Well, if only in the army you represent, then YES.

So after all, the RA also did not present anything specific.

[Plate]

The response must be prompt and effective.

I agree. But be careful, otherwise you might think from your comment that you are proposing to use WMD in response.

And you don't have to complain anymore.

And here I do not agree.

We were expelled from everywhere.

And even more so here.
Russia still has the broadest rights in the UN: no one has wider rights, the maximum is the same. And the UN is a good platform for highlighting the crimes of the Kyiv regime. Yes, Western politicians will simply ignore this, because they themselves sponsor everything. But it's not for them either. This is for their population and for those countries that belong to "the whole world." They can block the media, they can delete videos on YouTube and ban on Facebook. But they will not be able to shut up our representatives in the UN. Therefore, the UN remains a reliable platform for highlighting the crimes of the Western-sponsored Kyiv regime. I think no one expects an adequate response by filing complaints.
It is enough for the world to be aware of what the hegemon is doing on its behalf.

[Imperium_Aeterna]

It is enough for the world to be aware of what the hegemon is doing on its behalf ....

Enough? Well, well, you can still complain to the Pope or write tearful letters to The Hague.
I propose to announce another concern for the sake of completeness.
Sarcasm of course.

WMD should not be used - this is an extreme measure, it can be left in case NATO troops are brought in. There are TOS, Pinocchio and others like them. Yes, and napalm will do, although xs do we have it or not, and is it banned?

[Plate]

Well, well, you can still complain to the Pope or write tearful letters to The Hague.

And what, it is necessary to hush up the crimes of the Kyiv regime in order to please it, right? If Russia does not tell the world about them, no one will. And the kids in Africa will think that America is helping Ukraine fight against the Russian barbarians for the opportunity to bring them grain for free.

[Imperium_Aeterna]

Complaining alone is not enough.

[Plate]

It is clear that it is not enough, but they are also needed.

[Vlodek]

napalm of "cold" preparation is a matter of the edge of the day. you can bungle in the field in a milk barrel. not stable and dangerous to store for a long time, but nevertheless

[iouris]

I don't need to be treated.
The flag and anthem of the Russian Federation are prohibited.
They won't even let you into the dog competition.

[Plate]

I don't need to be treated.

I'm sorry, what?

The flag and anthem of the Russian Federation are prohibited.

I have not heard that they are recognized as something extremist or something like that.
About dogs, yes, I agree, but what is it for?

[Prisoner]

Judging by your hysteria, it is necessary. By the way, our "dokotors" do not do a bad job with this.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: iouris

We were expelled from everywhere.

This exception reminds me of high school punishment. Guilty - banned from attending classes as much as three days. As the son admitted many years later, it was a great time.

[antikilller55]

Has it already crossed the red line or not yet?

[isv000]

Quote: antikilller55

Has it already crossed the red line or not yet?

Which one?

[antikilller55]

Well, the one that cannot be crossed one hundred percent, the reddest of all reds.

[isv000]

Quote: antikilller55

Well, the one that cannot be crossed one hundred percent, the reddest of all reds.

Nope, still pink...

[g_ae]

Well, this one seems to have a long way to go. Soon it will be on par with the meme about Chinese warnings, it seems.

[km-21]

Botulism is most similar to food poisoning. The fighters could have consumed contaminated canned meat. It is necessary to find out how such canned food could get to the front. Theoretically, this could be a sabotage.

[Pilot]

In the United States, stocks of combat botulinum toxin have been stored since the 70s, the campaign is very much hindered as outdated ..

[tralflot1832]

Familiarize yourself with the combat use of type B botulinum toxin and do not drive a blizzard about canned food. How many of our soldiers were hit at one time will be known only to the OPCW and our Defense Ministry. Journalists cannot be trusted with this. For now.

[km-21]

This question is very easy to understand. If the toxin is found on the ground and poisoning is noted in many fighters, then there was spraying. And if only in canned food, then food poisoning. Have you read about the area? Not? And I didn't read either. Therefore, most likely - food. By the way, they could taste trophy canned food and run into a surprise.

[tralflot1832]

Our Defense Ministry is smarter than you and me, they would just punish the rear for canned food. And you have a strange attitude towards our soldiers. Very strange. It smells of lard. does not work.

[Azis]

Quote: tralflot1832

Our Defense Ministry is smarter than you and me, they would just punish the rear for canned food. And you have a strange attitude towards our soldiers. Very strange. It smells of lard. does not work.

What do refrigerators have to do with canned food? But, it could well be some trophy eat rations.

[tralflot1832]

And you go there. The Russian soldier is not a child.

[impostor]

Any ration, both ours and NATO’s, implies heat treatment (dry fuel), botulinum toxin is neutralized at +75 deg C, in my opinion NATO’s is not for Russians at all, although they don’t argue about tastes ... but in my opinion it’s better to screw buckwheat with stew from your own field kitchen ... we devour our dry ration with pleasure, as soon as the time comes to update the alarm set, but before winter

[Alf]

Quote: tralflot1832

How many of our soldiers were hit at one time, only the OPCW and our Defense Ministry will know

after completing the task in the city of Vasilyevka, Zaporozhye region, many Russian military began to complain about feeling unwell

And why didn't the peacekeeper complain? Or have OV become so selective? Only those with epaulettes are poisoned?

[tralflot1832]

And the peacekeeper was at that moment in Vasilievka?

[Alf]

Quote: tralflot1832

And the peacekeeper was at that moment in Vasilievka?

Did they all just run away?

[tralflot1832]

Can this be considered an answer? Judging by the video, the storming of villages does not go there. And ask why such an "ideal" weapon is very rarely used. I'll tell you, it depends very much on the weather.

[AlexeyEg]

Developed in the USSR. It is quite possible that the specialists have survived, it is possible to fix it even in the basement. http://artofwar.ru/l/lomachinskij_a_a/text_0250.shtml

[igor1981]

I wonder how far there is to the red line or not yet.

[tralflot1832]

And then a nuclear bomb?

[Plate]

But really. What to do after Kyiv crosses a certain "red line"?
Kill Zelensky? His environment? What about the meaning? They are not the main ones there anyway, the main ones are in Washington. It will not be possible to activate the offensive either: if they could have done it without serious consequences, they would have already done it, I think. What to do?
Those who are within reach of our weapons are either weak-willed dummies who are easy to change, or fanatics, who, they say, have also accumulated a lot in Ukraine. And if you try to punish the real culprits, then you can immediately launch the entire nuclear arsenal.
In general, it is not even clear against whom to organize punitive actions.

[tralflot1832]

So for me this is a question, because of some kind of Ukraine, the whole world is in ruins. Neither the United States nor Russia definitely want this. In Warsaw, except to bang with something ordinary, it will not bring any effect. A dead end, however. The USA are afraid and we we do not want.

[Jose]

Cut down their power plants and paralyze the entire economy. Let them sit without water, and without light, and without work, and without money, and without the Internet, and without communication, and without gasoline, and without food. True, nuclear power plants can not withstand this.

[isv000]

Quote: igor1981

I wonder how far there is to the red line or not yet.

You can't see it, you've gone too far...

[hohohol]

Well, when will we hit the decision-making centers? Stop embarrassing yourself with your loud statements that are already being laughed at and no one takes them seriously. We are becoming like China.

[Inokkenty]

And someone other than you constantly talks about attacks on decision-making centers? Or did you remember the statements of three or four months ago? So ours have been ironing these centers for a long time. And if you are talking about a clown, then we need him to officially sign the surrender.

[Blade3]

This is some kind of special form of brain degradation to write these slogans against the background of the Special Military Operation

[storm]

What, and this fact is still not enough to strike at the decision-making centers?

[battalion commander2]

Let's swallow it again, it's high time to strike at the decision-making centers, and not only in Kyiv

[Repellent]

Quote: battalion commander2

strike at the decision-making centers, and not only in Kyiv

More details can be from now on? This is a world war.

Although the fact that the bacillus, apparently, from the States, gives a lot of room for action ...

[Normann]

Fortunately, Russia has a hundred years of fools in store. (

[battalion commander2]

In the USA or England, by the hands of local frostbitten gangsters or some other marginal personalities involved in the dark, carry out a number of terrorist attacks at the objects of life or on the territory of military bases, but I'm afraid we have very few professionals of such a plan, and even more so legalized in these countries and with such opportunities. Another option with MANPADS is to shoot down a couple of aircraft with weapons when approaching airfields in Europe.

[K-50]

Koklatye Maydauny completely lost the coast?
At such a "rate" the gallows still need to be earned, otherwise a stake with wheeling will wait for them !!!

[Cap.nemo58rus]

Let's collect all the evidence (as if someone is interested in them) and ... wag a finger.

[Cap.nemo58rus]

Stop shaking your finger already! It's time to hit the table with a specific vegetable!

[saigon]

Yes, along the way, it's time to take off your white gloves and remember Sudoplatov, sabotage in the rear of the enemy is indispensable, shooting and explosions of ranks are indispensable, and again, hang artosos on trunks by the scrotum of everyone.

[Million]

Sudoplatov had balls ... And now only concern and strong protest ..

[Sergio_7]

Quote: Maz

And I would not rush to conclusions, maybe they specifically want to not get away with it? or got away with it? maybe it's time to hammer on the conductors?

Maybe they collect all kinds of crimes of the Kuev regime to the heap, so that they can give in full for everything at once.

[AdAstra]

Give what?

[air wolf]

We are waiting for a real response in the form of the arrival of Daggers in Kyiv! To Bandera began to shit!

[al3x]

Reported just now, almost 3 weeks later.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/15522443

[Million]

And what's next? Is it really incomprehensible that the whole world doesn't care?
When will the decision-making centers be struck?

[sagitovich]

The rest, who support Russia, do not care at all. And this is more than half the world.

[Alf]

Quote: sagitovich

The rest, who support Russia, do not care at all. And this is more than half the world.

Here is the list of those who voted to condemn Russia's "aggression" against a free Ukraine.
It is immediately clear how "many" Russia has those who support it ...

[sniperino]

Quote: Alf

Here is the list of those who voted to condemn Russia's "aggression"

I see Israel here. Interestingly, Kolomoisky does not yet sell T-shirts with the inscription "Judo-Bandera" there.

[saigon]

That's the term beautiful decision-making center, sounds! And so, nothing like the General Staff and the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, well, obviously they hang around in the ZKP (and he must keep the ZKP and the nuclear puff, it wasn’t all sorts of managers who built it under the USSR)
But sabotage will hit the brains, moreover, they will be demonstrative with a sudden fire impact and withdrawal.
As smart people once used to say - Rear fuckers will not have time to figure out a damn thing and prevent the attack and retreat.

[Million]

The President promised to strike at the decision-making centers. Therefore, he knows where who is and what is.
Or do you think he's a fool?

[saigon]

Have you tried to read carefully?

[Old Horseradish]

Dear you are my naive person. They need Zelensky. With whom then to negotiate? Well, Abramovich will not negotiate with you and us, will he?

[Million]

Zelensky does not decide anything. If you have to negotiate, then certainly not with him ...

[GNM]

It turns out that the Ukrainian regime also signs for the use of chemical warfare agents, which violates all conventions on the conduct of hostilities. More proof that the Kyiv regime is a typical example of a terrorist conglomerate ready to do anything in the interests of its Western sponsors.

1. Give as much publicity as possible through the UN, etc. organizations.
2. Recognize BU as a terrorist organization like ISIS (banned in the Russian Federation)
3. Starting to wet the banderlogs is not childish (the General Staff will think out the ways himself).

[Emergency]

Mattresses and their lackeys seem to have saved chemical weapons, our Ivans, simple souls, having built factories, destroyed these weapons. It looks like our tails have been twisted tightly to them, that NATO bastards have taken up chemistry.

[gromit]

Botulinum toxin is extremely dangerous. In the event of spraying, many civilian casualties were ensured in this very city of Vasilyevka, and doubts would be resolved by themselves, wouldn't they?
Maybe look for a follower of Zina Portnova in the dining room?

[Prisoner]

The name of the heroic girl is not trash!

[hangar200]

Yes. Concern must be expressed, of course. But it should also be expressed in a practical military plane ....

[From Tomsk]

Why didn't any of the civilians get hurt? After all, chemical weapons do not choose, but poison everyone who is in this infection zone. And it is not possible to personally introduce microdoses to each soldier under such conditions.

[bukhach]

Was such an OV present in Ukraine from the very beginning? Or is it a gift from the patrons of dill? And how was it used, was there a shell, a bomb, a mine or a drone? And yet, were only ours injured there, or were the locals too? reasons are needed for its liquidation, it is not clear. Although it may be some stubborn rank on the spot decided on this.

[Dikson]

Next - what? Well, they found out that they poisoned the fighters. And they even found out that it was an American poison .. Then what? Will we not shake a test tube at the UN? Shall we call the White Helmets? No reaction from the "world community" one hell will be in our favor ..

[ALMO]

Well, apparently someone will have to meet a newcomer.

[Rus2012]

For reference: Type B botulinum toxin was adopted by the US Army in the mid-1970s. Code designation - XR.

the author be precise, where did the data come from?
For now we know -

As a result of many years of research in 1975 botulinum toxin type A was adopted by the US Army under the code XR, stocks of which are stored in the Pine Bluff Arsenal in Arkansas

source - https://4108.ru/u/botulotoksin_-_boevoe_primenenie_botulotoksina
Or for the sake of a red word ... (c)

[Blade3]

There is a special military operation.

The Russian army and the DPR are crushing the enemy with a skating rink, regardless of the cries of the West.

Where does such a number of enchanting dolboyos come from ... in endlessly demanding answers and strikes on decision-making centers in their slogans

[Kronos]

What skating rink? There are equal fights.

[Knell wardenheart]

Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
Botulinum toxin needs to be massively sprayed - in order for the military to receive a more or less significant dosage, taking into account equipment, etc., they must literally be sprayed with an aerosol for some time. With a UAV, such tricks would hardly have come out, because given the specifics of spraying, you would have to hover very low and hang like that for some time.
Pre-treatment of the area is also a dubious decision, unless it is some kind of object on which the enemy would linger. But in this case, we would not have "victims" but the dead, because lethality directly depends on the dosage (pre-treatment implies maximum concentration) and contact time.

Instead, we have victims - it is quite possible that if all this really took place, it could be accidental or special poisoning of products or some zone. Perhaps all this is due to damage to special containers with something agrochemical or industrial chemical.
Botulinum toxin is not mustard and not "agent orange" - the issue of delivery to the object is much more delicate here.

[TEX-50]

What's the difference between agent orange delivery and botulinum toxin? What is so aerosol spray, what is so. To hit a sufficient number of military personnel, it is necessary to spray over a large area. It is imperceptible to spray over a large area. And if it were possible, then the whole world would already know, since undoubtedly everyone who inhaled such an aerosol would die, since Botulinum toxin-B is 30 times more toxic than VX. Mass is not observed, this is not spraying.

Diversion, pour into a well or into food, for example, into sausage or add canned food. Well, of course, you can, only ... it’s more hard to believe that someone found a jar of pickled mushrooms in someone’s cellar. Or homemade sausage (without the addition of nitrite).

[TreeSmall]

Quote: Author

For reference: Type B botulinum toxin was adopted by the US Army in the mid-1970s. Code designation - XR.

For your information:

Botulinum toxin type A☝️ was adopted by the US Army under the code XR in 1975.

https://ru.scribd.com/document/317313666/Botulinum-Toxin-A-XR

Type B weak
PySy

A diluted formulation of Botulinum Toxin A is used clinically under the name Botox® and a diluted formulation of Botulinum Toxin B is used clinically under the name Myobloc®.

[rocket757]

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced the use of a chemical warfare agent against the Russian military in the Zaporozhye region

... Now what?
Most likely, you will have to take precautions and ..... although, you need to smash the terrorists with all your might and without mercy!
The zabugoons are completely ready to break free from the chain, and only nuclear arguments are holding them back from ....
In general, while holding back.
To smash the Nazis and their masters wherever possible, without mercy.
Although ... if BOV is sprayed, there will be many and all sorts of victims for a long time .... this must be indicated exactly, and also where exactly they were poisoned and how, this question must be clarified exactly.

[isv000]

[quoteFor reference: Type B botulinum toxin was adopted by the US Army in the mid-1970s.][/quote]
Well?!!! Did we forget to send it to the States in an hour! uranium, titanium, oil, gas, $340 frozen yards?! Do we filter the bazaar by communicating with the hegemon?!!! Aren't we obviously too concerned?... The striped ones not only retained the OV, but also used it against the Russian army, maybe them, these white gloves ?!.

[il-z]

In the United States, significant arsenals of this chemical warfare agent are still stored, including at the Pine Bluff military base.

In the case of proven deliveries from the Pine Bluff base, it would be nice to test our ballistic missile with megaton ammunition at this base ....

[Sergey Kuzmin]

It turns out that the Ukrainian regime also signs for the use of chemical warfare agents, which violates all conventions on the conduct of hostilities. More proof that the Kyiv regime is a typical example of a terrorist conglomerate ready to do anything in the interests of its Western sponsors.

For reference: Type B botulinum toxin was adopted by the US Army in the mid-1970s. Code designation - XR. In the United States, significant arsenals of this BOV (chemical warfare agent) are still stored, including at the Pine Bluff military base.

And this is against the backdrop of the "peacekeeping" Turkish mission in Ukraine ... Well, things ... ours are being poisoned with US chemical warfare agents, and the Turks are "licking" that cabal of ukroterrorists who organize the use of the use of combat use of poisonous substances

[valipindosov]

and it didn’t bother anyone. that it happened on July 31st. but they report on August 20th

[valipindosov]

our Defense Ministry and politicians knew about this, continued all sorts of DIALOGUES and NEGOTIATIONS there. And in the meantime, our guys ......

[Rus2012]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

the question of delivery to the object is much more delicate here.

again -
Botulinum toxin type A was adopted by the US Army under the code name XR.
XR - stored as a powder, easily soluble in water.
MAINLY planned for sabotage: sprinkle, throw, spray ...
In connection with the latter

Taking into account the received evidence of state terrorism of the Kyiv regime, an additional investigation is currently being carried out on the poisoning of the head of the provisional administration of the Kherson region, V. Saldo, with chemical warfare agents.

[Repellent]

Quote: Rus2012

Botulinum toxin type A was adopted by the US Army under the code XR

And in the article we are talking about "type B". Which is not accepted, although the author claims that it is accepted.

Reference: botulinum toxin type "B" In the mid-1970s, it was adopted by the US Army. Code designation - XR

Go with the author butt heads, in short ...

[T.A.V.]

It's time to raze 404 to the ground. Hammer into the Stone Age and send to their folk hero.

[Alexander X]

Zelenkin now, perhaps, should not be killed, we will hang him after the victory. But to destroy the Ukrainian generals, their senior officers, especially those who give orders to shell peaceful cities, is a long time ago. Well, demonstrative executions of saboteurs, gunners. It's time to publicly execute the mercenaries, who have already been sentenced. It's time to pay substantial premiums for information about saboteurs, about the whereabouts of Svidomo officers, about the exact location of chimeras, other serious equipment ...

[Ros 56]

But for this it is necessary to sprinkle the entire kuev with dust, and you can also zapadenskaya krajina.

[steelmaker]

"a decision was made to collect the entire evidence base,"
They are going to prove something to someone: the US and the EU? Oh and stupid!!!

[Aviator_]

Another "red line"? And another "Chinese warning" (concern)? Classic pairing.

[Arkady007]

If the XR was developed by the United States and was kept by them, then their mercenaries are using it.

[Nexcom]

They write in the news that Russia is ready to continue negotiations with Kyiv....Ches word, I don’t understand what to agree on. Bandera's people have already shown everything ..... They need to be brought down, all this Bandera shoblu

Threat meeting can only be to accept an unconditional surrender on our terms

[NSV]

What collections of information?!?!

[Griffith]

Do you naively think that it is enough to win CBO? A couple of years and everything will pass? Naive. In 1956, the murderer Khrushchev pardoned the Bandera people. Those. this war today is at least 70 years old. I wanted the support of wide Ukrainians. But the first mention of Ukrainians dates back to 1915 in a Canadian newspaper. And grandfather Lenin presented the South-East of the future Ukrainian SSR. Such an agreement with the nationalists in the future, the founding fathers of dill. Those. this war today is at least 100 years old. At the same time, the Banderaites after the 2nd World War are at the mercy of the Anglo-Saxons. For reference. We have been in confrontation with the Anglo-Saxons since at least the 18th century, when Napoleon failed and the Russian Empire gained its maximum strength in history. By the way, if not for the French Revolution, then France would be the empire where the sun never sets. It was the revolution that undermined the French impulse of colonialism, and the loss of Russia finished off this impulse, and allowed England to intercept this baton. Those. this war today is at least 200 years old. The British are actively using Russophobia in this war. Russophobia is widespread in Europe. But who is its author? As you know, Christianity came to Kyiv from Byzantium. But what about the Vatican, you ask. Correctly. Dad was very unhappy then. But then they were flowers. Berries began after the fall of Byzantium in the 15th century, after which Moscow declared itself the third Rome. Active defamation of Moscow as heretics by the Pope began. Those. this war today is at least 500 years old. And you think that with the end of SVO everything will end? Naive. And I'm still silent about God's chosen people and the exclusivity of individual nations and the inferiority of others. Where do you think this came from and how old is this topic?

[Alexandr2637]

Well, well ... Against our weapons of mass destruction? Will we answer again? Yes, you already burn half the outskirts to hell, so that the remaining khokh_lam would not be in the habit !!!

[Nexcom]

It's like the authorities - enough will to answer - there will be an answer, not enough - there will be co-operation in the form of concerns, threats and regrets

[fiv]

It is high time to understand that ghouls are allowed everything. Using this, they will stop at nothing. And they will laugh. The government quarter in kuev must be reduced to rubble. This is the minimum task. Then - lions. Besides everything else.

[Magellan]

The government quarter in kueva must be reduced to rubble. This is the minimum task. Then - lions.

I was waiting for this on the morning of February 24, but alas ...

[Normann]

Peace is the interval between two wars. Jean Girodou

[smaug78]

Something dark story from MO...

[Mwg]

Isn't it time to officially recognize the United States as an opposing party and take action???

[AML]

Quote: steel maker

"a decision was made to collect the entire evidence base,"
They are going to prove something to someone: the US and the EU? Oh and stupid!!!

Can you imagine, the base will be a ride. Ze has done his job and is no longer needed. The next president will be Arestovich.

Kindergarten.

[flicker]

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced the use of a chemical warfare agent against the Russian military in the Zaporozhye region

In this situation, we (the population of Russia, public organizations and parties) need to appeal to the country's top leadership with a proposal to change the Russian nuclear code and, for the period of the Northern Military District, to give the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Armed Forces the right to make an independent decision on the use of NUCLEAR WEAPONS at decision-making centers.
---
The President of our country must feel the support of the Russian population when making this decision.

[iouris]

This is not a chemical weapon, but a biological weapon.

[yuriy55]

For reference: botulinum toxin type “B” was adopted by the US Army in the mid-1970s.

Damn ...
For reference: it was enough for Colin to show the test tube for the country's leadership and the country itself to be sentenced to invasion...

[Metallurg_2]

Exceptional can.

[Boromir1941]

those who use toxic substances are no longer fighters. well it sucks

[TEX-50]

Clickbait, or how to pass off food poisoning as the use of weapons of mass destruction. Starting with the fact that "XR" is BoNT/A, i.e. A is a toxin, and ending with the fact that the Yankees removed this crap from service God knows when due to its very low combat effectiveness. 100 to 1 that this food poisoning is most likely from home canned food.

[megadeth]

Here we are all chem. the weapons were destroyed with the last money (by building a new advanced plant, and then disposed of), they reported to the FSA and the whole world, and the FSA responded that they did not have enough funds...??? And we hang our ears and remain silent, smiling!!! We must finally announce that we are resuming chemical production. and biol. weapons + warn about deliveries of advanced long-range missile systems to Iran and North Korea. Well, when we wake up... and start the SVO in earnest. We can only stop NATO with an atom...IMHO.

[TEX-50]

“The last money” was allocated, incl. and the USA. They destroyed it because it was a suitcase without a handle for a country that was a member of the nuclear club. It is mostly useless and requires huge budgets for its storage and maintenance.

(having built a new advanced plant, and then it was disposed of)


What other plant suffered such a fate? In fact, not one, but seven (7) factories were built. They are all in place.

[Alexander Matrosov]

Quote: TEX-50

Clickbait, or how to pass off food poisoning as the use of weapons of mass destruction. Starting with the fact that "XR" is BoNT/A, i.e. A is a toxin, and ending with the fact that the Yankees removed this crap from service God knows when due to its very low combat effectiveness. 100 to 1 that this food poisoning is most likely from home canned food.

Exactly. Considering that the version of the BOV was officially announced in 3 weeks, I assume that they were poisoned along the centralized supply line and someone is covering the high rear.

[TEX-50]

Anyone who understands the issue even a little knows that the issue with toxin weapons was closed a long time ago. Very low effectiveness as a weapon of mass destruction. As a sabotage poison, this thing acts slowly, which means you can quite manage to introduce the serum, i.e. also so-so.

But homemade sausage, which is very popular in those parts, and of course they don’t add nitrite, is the most likely candidate.

[Dizel200]

What don't we know yet?

[dimbasic]

The American evil empire is a terrorist state

[Alexander Matrosov]

Quote from Canon

We will swallow this too, and in September we will also swallow the decision on Boeing. Then we will turn on the gas to the Germans and agree on the neutral status of Ukraine with a transition period of 25 years and with the immediate return of territories, because we are for world peace.

It is unlikely that peace will be given. The West felt the blood of its age-old rival.

[potap6509]

Still brothers, no. If there had been a nuclear baton, they would have used it without hesitation. The reality is this.

[Dilettante grandfather]

I have a strong feeling that the United States is trying to get us to start fighting. WITH NATO. The reason is simple: their hegemony has come to an end, a crisis has begun that the current US leadership is unable to cope with. They feel that if there is no global conflict, then their end could come very soon. That is why they are trying with all their might to provoke us into a harsh response. According to the principle, war will write off everything.

[Metallurg_2]

a decision will be made to collect all the evidence base

And to whom will this database be presented? OPCW? UN? So these offices are hit or miss. Until something arrives on the territory of the enlightened West. For example, the Novichok cylinder.

[Jager]

What about the next concern?

[Maks1995]

Yes, according to the text. doesn't look like BV.
But it was okay for PR.

[Sibguest]

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[rotfuks]

I remember that during the poisoning of the Skripals in England, a young lady of Slavic appearance was caught on video cameras. And there were witnesses who recognized the lady as an SBU officer. But then somehow everything cleverly turned towards Petrov and Basharov. But now it becomes clear who the main poisoner in Europe is.

[Radical]

Has Zakharova trained her Kalinka, or is she on vacation? Although the ministry is concerned, there are plenty of other dancers.

[Commodore Arctic]

It's time to sharpen the red pencil again!
Draw a red line...

[Commodore Arctic]

Have you noticed: Our politicians and loudmouths shut up about “Attacks on decision-making centers” ... probably shut up

[Feramon333]

If it’s a chemical warfare agent, then why are they alive?

[nordscout]

And this is serious!!!! The use of chemical warfare agents is a very serious crime. I hope that the culprits will be identified, identified and neutralized with the help of the Russian MTR... Apparently, the tactics of our units in the occupied territories should also change in matters of ensuring the security of the RF Armed Forces from the effects of airborne weapons and, of course, self-discipline. Could this be food poisoning of military personnel (consumption of home-canned products)?

[NicholasZ]

Quote: Flood

Quote: Alexandr2637

Pukin said...

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The site is strictly prohibited:
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[Alex Justice]

It looks like a fake.

[acetophenone]

Quote: Vladimir61

Quote: iouris

We were expelled from everywhere.

This exception reminds me of high school punishment. Guilty - banned from attending classes as much as three days. As the son admitted many years later, it was a great time.

A! Listen, I was also banned in the same way once. Still in the USSR! And for what? For absenteeism. True, I was skipping, sitting in the Children's Reading Room of the Public Library. Well, it's boring at school.
Eh, youth, youth ...
PS Speaking of botulinum toxin. Quite a BOV. The main thing is that its production is extremely simple. And the application... Well, optimally - VAP. Because his durability is so-so.
And, in general, chemical weapons are most effective against civilians. The troops are quite resistant to him. In Soviet times, they were. Now - I don’t know, I’m no longer on topic.

[Hariton laptev]

I tried to analyze all the past time and understand why? There is only one conclusion. The states are testing weapons, or rather weapons of mass destruction, and the possibility of use against Russia. Or rather, the use of someone else’s hands. Hence the hysteria around the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant. And no one can rule out that a tactical nuclear charge will arrive in the Zaporizhia NPP area, followed by an attack by all NATO countries. And everyone will approve only because later there will probably be free gas and oil.