Portuguese Foreign Ministry: The target of sanctions should be the Russian "war machine", not ordinary Russians

The EU-discussed ban on entry of Russian tourists to EU countries caused discontent in Portugal, whose authorities said that sanctions should not apply to ordinary Russians.

As stated in the message of the country's Foreign Ministry, the purpose of the sanctions is to punish the "Russian military machine", and not ordinary citizens of the country. The Portuguese authorities will try to influence this issue at the European level.

Statements about the need to close entry to the EU countries for Russian citizens have increasingly become heard recently in some EU countries, especially in the Baltic states. Support for such a decision was expressed in Estonia and Latvia, and the Finnish authorities decided in September to significantly reduce the issuance of visas to Russians. Similar rhetoric in the EU countries began after the proposal of the Ukrainian president to limit the issuance of visas to Russian citizens.

Earlier in Germany, as part of the consideration of the next package of anti-Russian sanctions, a draft EU decision on the ban on the issuance of Schengen visas to Russian citizens was submitted for discussion. At the same time, the German Chancellor noted that he “hardly” imagines such a ban.

Greece and Cyprus have expressed their negative attitude towards the ban on the issuance of tourist visas to Russians. They recalled that Russian tourists in their countries can leave up to 2 billion euros per season, and after Russians are denied entry, they will simply choose other places to stay, including the resorts of the Russian Federation itself.

The authorities of Poland are trying to contradict the opinion of the Portuguese Foreign Ministry, stating that the ban on entry against Russians can allegedly reduce the activity of "Russian agents" in Europe. In Lisbon, these statements were considered something like outright paranoia.

Comments

[Arkady007]

How can you separate the military from the civilians?

[41 REGION]

Portugal does not want to refuse tourists, and put it on both Latvia and Estonia

[The black]

As a rule, those countries in which tourism makes up a significant part of the budget are opposed.

[gansales]

Quote: Black

As a rule, those countries in which tourism makes up a significant part of the budget are opposed.

That's right, but they have anger at the Russians ..
They are bastards anyway!

[tihonmarine]

Quote from gansales

That's right, but they have anger at the Russians ..
They are bastards anyway!

Yes, it’s malice, but that’s what the Russians have done in their entire history to the Portuguese that they are angry with us. By the way, we didn’t forget that during Napoleon’s Russian campaign in 1812, Portuguese soldiers also arrived in Russia. The Portuguese legion suffered heavy losses in the battles of Wagram, Smolensk, Vitebsk and Borodino.
Portugal played a key role in the expulsion of the Soviet Union from the League of Nations in 1939, and in the Finnish-Russian Winter War of 1939/40 the country openly sided with Finland, although not militarily. Maybe because the support of the Soviet Union for independence movements in the Portuguese colonies, especially in Angola, as well as in Mozambique and Guinea-Bissau, caused anger between Portugal and the USSR and this was transferred to the Russian Federation.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: tihonmarine

.... what the Russians "during their entire history, did such a thing to the Portuguese that they are angry with us .....

what did they do--- I'm at a loss. But what didn't they do? In Portugal, as a result of elections, the Socialists came to power in 1974. Ours did not participate in any way, but they could .... Ours refused to expand socialism.

[man]

By the way, we have not forgotten that during the Russian campaign of Napoleon in 1812, Portuguese soldiers also arrived in Russia.
And the Portuguese artillerymen also participated in the invasion of Batu

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Black

As a rule, those countries in which tourism makes up a significant part of the budget are opposed.

Because of black envy, according to the principle "So don't get it to anyone!".

[Arkady007]

Yes, there have never been many of our tourists in Portugal. All tour operators are geared towards Spain.
In Portugal, there are estates bought up by "our people", and they were denied entry to the village to their grandfather, so apparently they raised a storm from the other side.
Like Portugal suffers losses. Although this is perhaps one of the countries that did not buy anything from Russia at all.

[Sobol]

Quote: Arkady007

How can you separate the military from the civilians?

Well, how about. A quilted jacket, an earflap with a star, a PPSh behind your back and, most importantly, a beard!

[isv000]

Quote: Arkady007

How can you separate the military from the civilians?

By precision...

[Nexcom]

how kind in Portugal ....

[dmi.pris1]

And what have I, as a citizen of Russia, forgotten in the EU? Well, I never went there .. In my youth I looked at Romania across the Danube and that’s it. I didn’t die, I don’t suffer from a lack of culture.

[stelltok]

And what have I, as a citizen of Russia, forgotten in the EU?

I have been to the EU. Didn't see anything out of the ordinary. And they're making a lot of money.

[Pilot]

Quote: dmi.pris

And what have I, as a citizen of Russia, forgotten in the EU? Well, I never went there ...

You are not the only one who is not allowed to travel abroad; according to statistics, 79% of Russian citizens have never traveled over the hill. Poverty is the main reason, so all this fuss about visas is nothing - let the rich 21% of the population of the Russian Federation block entry into the EU, it will be fairer. There is nothing to fatten when the country supports the pants with his hands.

[Doctor]

And what have I, as a citizen of Russia, forgotten in the EU? Well, I never went there .. In my youth I looked at Romania across the Danube and that’s it. I didn’t die, I don’t suffer from a lack of culture.

There is a nuance. This culture is European.

[dmi.pris1]

Ah! Well, of course, how did I forget about the red-light district and LBGT ... But do I (and not only) need it?

[Doctor]

Ah! Well, of course, how did I forget about the red-light district and LBGT ... But do I (and not only) need it?

This is particular.
Look at trends.
Charles Perrault, Jules Verne and Dumas also walked under the red lights, but several generations of Soviet children grew up on their books. Written in the Latin alphabet and translated into ours), Greek.

The LGBT player Tchaikovsky wrote a ballet based on the fairy tale of the German Hoffmann, with notes invented by Guido Aretinsky from sunny Italy.

Yes, and almost everything else, from the Caucasian (!) Race, to the calendar and religion. In short, everything that is called "mentality".

Well, unless of course you are not Buryat.

[stelltok]

how kind in Portugal ....

Portugal wants to make money.

[Nexcom]

they all have loot in the first place. and most of our leaders - too

[4ekist]

..... stated that sanctions should not apply to ordinary Russians.

We just decided to pull the blanket over ourselves. A poor EU country, Portugal, decided to continue to replenish the budget through wealthy tourists and investors from the Russian Federation, real estate sales and citizenship. What is not clear here?

[Sergio_7]

The authorities of Poland are trying to contradict the opinion of the Portuguese Foreign Ministry, stating that the ban on entry against Russians can allegedly reduce the activity of "Russian agents" in Europe. In Lisbon, these statements were considered something like outright paranoia.

Well, at least someone understands that this whole situation is paranoia!

[Ural_engineer]

Our people and army are united.

[Thrifty]

Russian military vehicle??? It's so easy! Send one army truck to Portugal, let them eat it! But, seriously, it's high time to actually make tourism in the native land a priority, and reduce prices for Russian hotels and resorts to a reasonable size! In Turkey, holidays are much cheaper and better than in our resorts! Our tour operators got drunk !!!

[Slavutich]

That's the news

[GNM]

Statements about the need to close entry to the EU countries for Russian citizens have increasingly become heard recently in some EU countries, especially in the Baltic states.

[Machete]

Well, yes, yes ...
As soon as the danger of not receiving the dough appeared, they howled immediately. Before that, everything was fine. And the sanctions and the closure of the media and the ban on banks. And as they touched themselves, they screamed about the rights of ordinary Russians. More precisely, about one right: the right to leave money in Portugal.

Portugal is a tourist country. Not rich. A bummer with money will greatly affect the economy.

[IVZ]

I don’t remember that Lisbon had graters with the Russian Federation, which means there is no hatred and it somehow finds a means of subsistence without selling Russophobia. Therefore, discipline within the EU is one thing, and another is to join the moronic persecution of all sorts of micro-skunks, and even to your own detriment.

[military_cat]

Quote: IVZ

I don’t remember that Lisbon had graters from the Russian Federation

Refresh the official list of unfriendly countries: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_unfriendly_states_(Russia)#cite_note-12

[tralflot1832]

The Portuguese Foreign Ministry fundamentally misunderstood the question. Sanctions against Russia were introduced illegally, at the wrong address. EU sanctions should be imposed against Ukraine, which is dominated by fascist ideology.

[Fat]

I don't drink... On trifles... Not Rasputin, and not even Rostropovich. And Madera is the second name for rotten meat from a decent "Malvasia"
Sincerely

[rotmistr60]

Haven't eaten yet the reverse side of the sanctions. If they think that entry into Europe is a privilege for Russian citizens, then they should probably go to Europe without Russian tourists who leave a large amount of currency there. And whoever can’t live without such a privilege can temporarily endure. The loudest, as always, are the Poles and the Balts. By the way, the Balts are still doing well after the next demolition of monuments to the Soviet war-liberators. And it is necessary that they begin to walk under themselves when they hear the word Russia.

[Nexcom]

the Europeans have another victory - they have developed reusable tissue toilet paper. this is a breakthrough!

and yesterday, on a blue eye, they tryndeli that meat is bad and you need to eat insects - the calorie content is even higher. demonstrated muffins with cockroaches and larvae - did not finish watching, went to vomit.

PS interestingly, when will they start offering their feces ??

[DeGreen]

Their doctors say in all seriousness that the less often you wash, the better for the skin.

[Inokkenty]

Of course, close it, ordinary people don’t go there, only the liberals go there to dream and the children of thieves, officials and the oligarchy ....

[military_cat]

They won't close. In the EU, decisions are made by consensus, some country is against it (and there are already more than one of them) - no decision has been made.

[vladimirvn]

I cry out loud

[Inokkenty]

Our tourists stopped traveling to Poland and the Baltic States for patriotic reasons, on which the entire economy of these countries was built. So now they want to spoil the civilized countries, like they don’t come to us, even if they don’t go to you either. I don’t understand, are Europeans really so narrow-minded that they don’t see this?

[iouris]

Quote: Inokkenty

our tourists stopped traveling for patriotic reasons

?????
Are you seriously?
Look at the tourism statistics. Only a few percent (tourists) traveled back and forth across the EU. The bulk of the masses (this is also minuscule) went to Turkey and Egypt (from the European part of the Russian Federation).
Well, they went to Poland, mainly, "Svidomye". Were trained or "lay down at the bottom." Historically, this has been the case.
In the Baltic States (some of them) have relatives and even very close ones. You abisnit why? Because in 1991 a betrayal unprecedented in human history took place.
Who betrayed whom is clear? That's it.

[DeGreen]

About betrayal I agree one hundred percent

[iouris]

Portugal is the oldest colonial (and not colonial (!) - not to be confused) power in the world.
"Sanctions" is robbery and participation in the war to destroy "ordinary Russians".
To end the robbery and war, NATO must be disbanded, and the EU collapsed.

[Fat]

And what do we have there, with Lisbon? Gibraltar is still British. Not?..

[iouris]

Lisbon is not in Gibraltar. And Britain is where there are straits and other bottlenecks. Those. everywhere.

[Fat]

Thank you. saw the map

[Viktor Sergeev]

Not so: the goal of sanctions should not be Russia and its citizens, but another branch of the EU. A true "European", when they give him a club on the head, should rejoice, because with this he strikes at Russia.

[Fat]

I will not contradict you. Most of the relatives live outside our federation. IM is probably difficult.
But so far no one has complained. Annoying?

[DeGreen]

One of the poorest EU countries has opened its mouth

[Prisoner]

Our people and army are united. Go through the forest!