"Army-2022": Russia strives to achieve quantum superiority

Leading experts in the field of quantum technologies at the international military-technical forum "Army-2022" discussed their development in Russia. Speaking with welcoming words to the audience at the round table organized by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the rector of the Moscow Technical University of Communications and Informatics (MTUCI) Sergey Erokhin spoke about the importance of this industry for the state and business.

But most importantly, the scientist emphasized that these technologies are of paramount importance for ensuring the country's security. With their help, you can cope with tasks that were previously considered unsolvable.

When we talk about quantum technologies, we are first of all talking about a new level of security

Erokhin noted.

Their development contributes to bringing the domestic electronics industry to a new level, allows you to create ultra-sensitive sensors. The panelists noted the increased level of cyber threats, which is forcing Russia to strengthen the security of data storage.

The event emphasized that Russia is striving to achieve quantum superiority, and for this it has good reason. Our competitors are serious, but they are few. After all, these complex technologies can be mastered by a limited number of countries, including the Russian Federation.

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[marchcat]

Their development contributes to bringing the domestic electronics industry to a new level.

We still have not mastered the old level.

[military_cat]

And there was something about nanotechnology between the old level and quantum superiority.

[Hypertension]

And also robotics. Recently, the story of a "domestic-produced" robotic dog from Aliexpress made me "happy".

It is also interesting that there is a film about space flight Peresild. When will this blockbuster come out? Silence ... But it's time to wipe the nose of Hollywood and show our answer to their Armageddon or Gravity.

[ALARI]

Most likely there will be an answer that the film is exposed and it is necessary to reshoot, give me money.

[Dikson]

so they immediately said upon arrival that "all hard drives and drives were empty .."))

[ALARI]

No comment.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Dikson

all hard drives and drives were empty.

It was a joke. Possibly from Panorama.

[Vend]

Quote: Hyperion

It is also interesting that there is a film about space flight Peresild. When will this blockbuster come out? Silence ... But it's time to wipe the nose of Hollywood and show our answer to their Armageddon or Gravity.

In order to talk about this, you need to understand what the filming process of a feature film is. Apparently you do not know this issue. I explain that there are no harmful illusions. Filming in space is only part of the whole film still being filmed and filmed on earth. And whether there was a casting of actors for these shootings is not yet known. Then the editing of the footage, sound design, voice acting, creation of musical content, preview, contracts with rental companies. And then the cinema. And we have already wiped the nose of Hollywood, they will not be able to repeat this

[Hypertension]

Quote: Wend

Filming in space is only part of the whole film still being filmed and filmed on earth.

What is there to shoot? It is essentially a chamber film. No extras, no historical costumes, no huge pavilions, no heaps of special effects (otherwise, why the hell did they shoot in space then?), No need.

Quote: Wend

And we have already wiped the nose of Hollywood, they will not be able to repeat this

Why can't they? What are the problems to send an actor into orbit if private tourists have already flown? Another question is whether it is advisable, if you can shoot about space on Earth as well.

[Vend]

Quote: Hyperion

Quote: Wend

Filming in space is only part of the whole film still being filmed and filmed on earth.

What is there to shoot? It is essentially a chamber film. No extras, no historical costumes, no huge pavilions, no heaps of special effects (otherwise, why the hell did they shoot in space then?), No need.

Quote: Wend

And we have already wiped the nose of Hollywood, they will not be able to repeat this

Why can't they? What are the problems to send an actor into orbit if private tourists have already flown? Another question is whether it is advisable, if you can shoot about space on Earth as well.

So I say, in order to talk about this, you need to understand what the filming process of a feature film is. Apparently you do not know this issue.

[AdAstra]

You correctly noticed this one, I keep waiting and waiting for it, but still no and no, and after all, there were so many talkers, as if a person was sent to Mars.

[Andriuha077]

Most likely they showed the carrier of the program, means of communication, nothing more.
Tasks are characterized by somewhat different models, loads.

[Sergey Trunoff]

UNIQUE QUANTUM TECHNOLOGIES

[4ekist]

Their development contributes to bringing the domestic electronics industry to a new level, allows you to create ultra-sensitive sensors.

It's good that the red-haired Chubais left the country.

[AAK]

"RosNano" Anatoly Borisovich has already successfully headed ... now they will create "RosKvant", Borisych will be cured, returned with honor to his homeland and offered to head a new structure ... and our army will replace nano-footcloths with quantum ones ...

[Sergej1972]

There are no footcloths in the army for a long time.

[jdiver]

>our army will replace nano footcloths with quantum ones...
Which are and which are not at the same time. Perhaps the fact that many of our weapons are on the TV screen, but are not visible in reality, simply shows the scale to which we have already reached in the application of quantum effects in our weapons.

[moscowp]

Which are and which are not at the same time. It is possible that many of our weapons are on the TV screen, but are not visible in reality

That's right, this is quantum superposition! So there is indeed reason to believe that we can achieve quantum supremacy, as the paper points out.

[jdiver]

Oh, how would our sarcasm not become the final reality of our present, into which the superposition of our possible futures will collapse. Through the efforts of our wise leaders and their no less wise and responsible subordinates.

[moscowp]

Oh, how would our sarcasm not become the final reality of our present, into which the superposition of our possible futures will collapse.

Beautifully said, I really wanted to drink ...

[4ekist]

moscowp: we can achieve quantum supremacy, as the article points out

Well, if so. It is impossible to stagnate in one place in science, and we must work on it and implement it in weapons and new technologies. The main thing is that it does not become another "black hole".

[jdiver]

It's like seeing if everyone who causes so much harm to the country calmly then leaves for a well-deserved rest, is it so good

[Sergey Trunoff]

Whether there is Chubais in the country or not - this does not affect what is not there.

[ALARI]

Well, yes, he is fine, but rake us.

[astepanov]

That means in what direction Chubais will work. Well, the Rogozin family to help him. They will create "unparalleled in the world"

[Imperium_Aeterna]

What other quantum technologies? What kind of insanity? We are advancing in Ukraine at the pace of a pregnant turtle, here they are talking about quanta ....
Our main task, as I understand it, is to take the fortified areas, but there are normal weapons - sunburners, just podshamante over them so that they shoot a little further, there seems to be ordinary artillery too.
Give the soldiers in the right quantities drones, anti-drone weapons, electronic warfare, set up normal communications, eventually come up with something with enemy air defense to open the way for our aircraft, concrete depots and hangars at airfields in the end ...
In the Second World War, as I remember, they won in quantity and quality - the Germans basically invented prodigies, everything that was needed was, in fact, already invented, all that was needed was to increase production volumes.

[Imperium_Aeterna]

Enter yourself again.

[Nastia makarova]

there was no cannon yet

[AdAstra]

And what about the new citizens, well, they are from, as they say now, Central Asia. On the site where all legal acts are published, decrees of the comrade supreme about this very regularly appear.

[jdiver]

the concept of quantum superiority has nothing to do with weapons directly. indirectly yes, to simulate complex processes on a computer or to crack the keys of some of the still widely used data encryption algorithms. Although indirectly, the development of quantum computing, of course, can move the element base used for weapons systems as well. Let people work and move our technologies. In conventional microelectronics, the backlog that was available back in the 80s was loved, now they are decades behind and hundreds of billions of greenery behind more or less advanced technologies.

[Sharky]

Although indirectly, the development of quantum computing, of course, can move the element base used for weapons systems as well.

Do you think it's time to make a quantum computer that has no analogues, when they got into a puddle with Elbrus?
The Taiwanese company TSMC waved the pen and that's it ...
Mikron makes it possible to produce processors using 90 nm technology, in addition, there are various “difficult moments” that prevent the domestic factory from entering full-fledged mass production. At this time, TSMC is riveting processors using the 5nm process technology ...

[jdiver]

quantum and classical computers are completely different things and completely different technologies for their creation. As for their TSMC, they once also said “why do our own, we’ll buy foreign ones, otherwise we are far behind, why spend money”, they drank and shoved the optimized money into offshore respected people. Now we have what we have. Let them make their own quantum computer. There are enough optimizers even without us, the yachts have been taken away, the mansions have been taken away, we need to optimize again.

[AdAstra]

All this is petty and does not deserve attention when such grandiose prospects lie ahead (sarcasm if anything)

[barclay]

The event emphasized that Russia is striving to achieve quantum superiority, and for this it has good reason.
Now we need to have the opportunity to do so. This requires specialists and a production base. And in the same Britain, valuable specialists from Russia and the CIS have long been openly invited, offering them decent conditions for work and professional development. This is a very serious challenge. It is high time for our state to truly show that it values ​​its people and spares nothing for them. Without this, the brain drain cannot be stopped. In general, in Russia it is necessary to learn how to quickly establish mass production based on high technologies. Engineers came up with a lot of things, but we have a problem to establish the production of quality products.

[Snail N9]

O! Quantum Supremacy! Wunderwaffen! Now I'm watching our infantry riding on the "nano-armor" btr-82, the bmp-1-2 rides (thanks to Chubais), and later on, they will ride on the "quantum" armor. Definitely a push! We will win everyone! Even "serious competitors"! If only "AliExpress" continued to work!

[darkesstcat]

Maybe first a stable secure connection to everyone please?

[Quinto]

Well, you swung my dear here would be normal domestic berets to see with at least one eye, not only to put on shoes for the whole army

[darkesstcat]

Bertsy berets, but I don’t want to catch an art raid or a rocket because of a communication hack. It is enough that the satellites cannot / do not want to suppress.

[Quinto]

So these are all problems from one deck, that berets, that means of communication, that protected shelters for aviation are all that can be seen, measured and calculated, checked for quality and, as a result, asked properly, and quantum technologies are an unplowed field for deriban and cut without any threat to get a hat. They’re building a hunter drone, sawing it, and there’s no end in sight; as a result, they’ll make two pieces and start a new bold project. And it’s not interesting to make eagles pacers and other workhorses so necessary at the front

[darkesstcat]

There is no Comrade Stalin and responsibility, alas.

[filibuster]

The problem here is what kind of secure communication is something that you can touch with your hands and compare with competitors, in general, a completely understandable end result for which you can ask, but “quantum technologies” are not an understandable spherical horse in a vacuum on which you can master budget money.

[KCA]

Go touch:
The Center for Quantum Technologies of Moscow State University and the campuses of the university on Leninsky Gory and Mokhovaya were connected by the world's first quantum network. Its peculiarity is that calls or video conferences are completely protected from eavesdropping or hacking.
Since this is a quantum network, the call cannot be hacked. It is arranged in such a way that those single-photon states that form the key, if they are tried to intercept, the connection is interrupted.”

Quantum keys, which change several times a minute and are necessary for encryption, are not generated in phones, but between a network of devices connected by optical fiber. The Moscow State University network already consists of 20 telephone sets, and the length of the quantum channel is over 30 kilometers. For this technology, this is a lot. This network, which is impossible to listen to, has existed for several days. The news is that now, after testing and validation, the technology is certified by key security authorities. Burglary resistance proven.

[darkesstcat]

The Chinese have 4,5 thousand km + two satellites.

[KCA]

What? Are the satellites tied to the Earth with an optical communication cable? Strongly. They write to you the first in the world and 30 km is a lot, but have the Chinese already built a network for 4 km?

[jdiver]

This is a cool thing, and it's really great that we have those who can do such things.
I hope that no 5th column in power will be able to "optimize" this backlog.
As for the absolute resistance to hacking, I still want to say that with such complex technologies that exclude interception, the key is usually transmitted, which then encrypts the main data stream. But the algorithm that then encrypts the main data using this key is not a fact that it is resistant to hacking. This must be strictly mathematically proven, which, as far as I know, is almost non-existent. There is hope that this is so based on an assessment of the probabilities of certain events. The fact that the encryption / decryption algorithm is used everywhere does not mean that someone does not have a way to open it in a finite time. Although this does not in the least beg for the coolness of quantum secure key transmission technologies, especially considering that frequent key changes over an absolutely secure channel greatly complicate the ability to decrypt the main stream.

[Alf]

Quote from jdiver

I hope that no 5th column in power will be able to "optimize" this backlog.

And you, my friend, are an optimist ... By the way, an indecent question, is there electronics of our production in this network of the quantum network of Moscow State University?

[jdiver]

And you, my friend, are an optimist ...

Well, if we are in the topic of discussing quantum effects, I prefer to call my optimism an observation of the future I need :) Since, at the quantum level, observation affects the collapse of the superposition in the direction determined by observation, I will believe that my optimistic observation of the future I need affects the probabilities of what happens :)

>By the way, an indecent question, is there electronics of our production in this network of the quantum network of Moscow State University?
I can not know. But such things, in addition to ordinary electronics, contain the actual technique of working with obtaining entangled particles, transmitting them over a distance with minimizing the loss of their states, etc. These are no longer chips from TSMC, but, for example, optics, and other things related to the creation / preservation of quantum states, which I think are ours. At the output, of course, everything goes into classic devices, which electronics are already there, I don’t know, most likely imported.

[filibuster]

This is where we all know how to play dust in the eyes, what is the use of these 20 phones at Moscow State University working in laboratory conditions, at a time when the problem is to provide troops with mobile radio stations with encryption, which is also quite crypto-resistant.

Quantum keys, which change several times a minute and are necessary for encryption, are not generated in phones, but between a network of devices connected by optical fiber.

Congratulations, session keys have been invented at Moscow State University.

This network, which is impossible to listen to, has existed for more than a day

If you rush so categorically, then there are radio stations on the market that, subject to a number of conditions, are also impossible to listen to, with the exception of a brute force attack.

The news is that now, after testing and validation, the technology is certified by key security authorities. Burglary resistance proven.

Who has proven cryptographic strength? Somewhere a public audit was held.

[Al manah]

Nothing tricky: everyone has at least a cheap Chinese DMR balalaika, the encryption capabilities available there against Bandera will be enough. Why, you can’t import anything, but there’s no one of your own except for exhibitions ... And with me the guys who were traveling there, they bought ordinary analog barrel-organs like Bao-888 - so that at least some connection between them was ...

[moscowp]

Maybe first a stable secure connection to everyone please?

Here quantum technologies will give you a secure connection. It is only necessary to carry out R&D, create a prototype and a sample ... well, 20-30 years of work, in short

[FoBoss_V]

Let's immediately anti-gravity boots and a treasurer sword

[Alf]

Quote: FoBoss_V

Let's immediately anti-gravity boots and a treasurer sword

From a secret source, I cannot name.

[jdiver]

Come on, they probably found R2D2 in the desert with a message from Leia to the rebels!

[Alf]

Quote from jdiver

Come on, they probably found R2D2 in the desert with a message from Leia to the rebels!

Not for nothing that Rospechat had a set "Collect R2D2" ...

[jdiver]

Darth Vader downvoted. It would be nice if only the non-brothers would sit on the VO, it looks like the Sith pulled themselves up ... :)

[AdAstra]

And gravitsapa, you forgot about gravitsapa

[ada]

Gravitsap?
Well, it's hard to say about the "tap", it is desirable to know what it is and how it works.
But, to find an approach to detecting changes or disturbances caused by the target in environments of a completely different order, more complex than electromagnetic fields, or disturbances of these environments, in other, more tangible ones, such as water, air, soil, it would probably be interesting.
For example, reading and analyzing remote disturbances of environments when objects are in them to obtain their coordinates and movement parameters, characteristics of the object image or its vision, or determine its coordinates and movement parameters from disturbances in the environment of the outgoing or incoming flow of gravitational particles relative to the Earth's surface or when in a stable luminous flux.
Well, communication, of course, not referring to encryption, but namely the transmission of information by influencing such media and reading it. What about weapons? Gravity impact, light.

[Frost]

For the 6th month of the war, the 2nd Army of the World loses irretrievably about half a thousand tanks only, mostly the latest models, and a decent part of the existing BMP-3 fleet. A monstrous amount of expensive special equipment, including communication systems and air defense systems. 6 months of the war have passed, and the RF Armed Forces, on average, are fighting with armored vehicles the same as those of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Basically - the same BMP-1 and BMP-2 as the Ukrov and T-72 / T-80 of the old versions against the T-64. Only if the Armed Forces of Ukraine have all armored vehicles, even such junk as the BRDM-2, with closed radio communications and modern navigation systems, then if we have radio stations on tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, then these are R-123 and R-173, analog, with an open channel.

[Nastia makarova]

where do the 500 numbers come from?

[iouris]

- your political credo? - always!
- what should I do? moaned Ippolit Matveyevich. - You must be silent. Sometimes, for the sake of importance, puff out your cheeks - but this is ... deception. - Who is speaking? Is this Count Tolstoy speaking? Or Darwin? No. I hear this from the lips of a man who only yesterday was just going to break into Gritsatsuyeva’s apartment at night and steal furniture from a poor widow.
Don't think. Be quiet. And don't forget to puff out your cheeks.

[filibuster]

Well, it's not funny anymore, what kind of "quantum levels" are used when a connection is used on the NWO that the "Western partners" listen to.

[IvanSviridov]

And there will be a quantum connection, which not only "Western partners", but also the participants in the conversation themselves will not be able to listen to. Absolutely protected.

[AdAstra]

You forgot about aliens, they definitely can.

[iouris]

So what? They openly listened to Mother Merkel herself.

[filibuster]

Using hardware and software bookmarks.

[Stepan S]

Russia aims to achieve quantum supremacy

Again "analogue"? Is this grandfather in the foreground a quantum senior? Or maybe first they will make a stable connection, closed to the army? And not on paper, and not in the form of mansions around the capital, but in reality.

[Quinto]

Do not blaspheme, otherwise the viewers of the Zvezda TV channel will run into you and instruct you on the minuses and reasonably explain that all these communication channels of yours are all NATO junk and prodigies and that the most reliable connection is pigeon mail

[Zadok]

Was it possible to use substances on the forum? mtusya even the site cannot lift - "DB query error.". quantum technologies to them, yeah. "Saw, Shura, saw"

[RaccoonSnake]

We are forced to fight on the equipment of forty years ago, and here about "quantum superiority" ..... There are no words.

[GREG68]

Another hyperboloid engineer Garin...

[Rudkovsky]

A robot dog with a grenade launcher has been implemented and quantum superiority is being implemented! The main thing is to wait for it to be on sale at Chinese flea markets!

[ALARI]

I'm interested in the photo of people with big stars, who are the developers?

[HAM]

Artyom, have you really never made rationalization proposals? And if you did, then you know that you are ONLY a co-author, the authors sit in the chair of the director or chief engineer .... respectively, and material remuneration "according to work" ...

[ALARI]

As there taxi drivers tell you checkered or go. We have checkers in the first place, sadness.

[Alf]

Quote: ALARI

I'm interested in the photo of people with big stars, who are the developers?

No. The developers are honestly trying to create at least something from that city and the sticks that still remain. And the work of these, with big stars, with honest eyes, is to answer three main questions.
1. Why is it so expensive?
2. Where did the money go?
3. Where is it all in real life?

[ALARI]

And these are those who then (if possible) will put everything to their credit. Academicians and Doctors of Sciences. Clearly.

[A009]

Have virologists and financial experts now become specialists in "quantum computing" and "entangled states"? Multi-station you are ours)))

[Cuban]

From Cuba, Florida can be beaten and there would be a desire with water pipes, there, too, like we have a lot of vacationers in Crimea

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Darkesstcat

Maybe first a stable secure connection to everyone please?

Communication is the most important thing.
Meanwhile, the crazy head of the pig farm is confidently pushing "red lines" deep into our Motherland:

"Zelensky has moved to frank testing of Russian "red lines" that can be crossed without harming himself personally"
Apparently, he cynically decided that while everything is quiet on the Rublevo-Uspenskoye highway (where the concert of the Georgian renegade will take place), it is possible to fill up the Belgorod region with “petals”:

https://t.me/zemlyanushka/1913

[User_neydobniu]

"Army-2022": Russia strives to achieve quantum superiority

Well, I finally understood what Russia is striving for, that's where all the funds for the army went, now it's clear why they are building so many su-57s, armats and boomerangs

[Andriuha077]

When we talk about quantum technologies, we are first of all talking about a new level of security

AI will pull the search for red lines?

[Mitia68]

After the show with the Chinese robot dog, all the talk about quantum technology looks like a mockery.

What for was to show this "doggy"? Why was it embarrassing? Was it hoped that no one would recognize her if she was dressed up in a ninja costume?

[Galleon]

MTUCI. Moscow Technical University of Communications and Informatics. Guys, we would have at least some AWACS aircraft, it seems to be in your line! Combined-arms target designation system! And it is possible without quantum ...
Regular news about miraculous discoveries - either quantum shnyaga, then they saw a platform in the BMP-3, then the pilots of the SU-57 are bifurcated. But there is very little news that some product went into series.

[Sergey Trunoff]

Quote: barclay

And in the same Britain, valuable specialists from Russia and the CIS have long been openly invited, offering them decent conditions for work and professional development.

And who is stopping us from inviting specialists?

[frog]

Why do we need them? And yes, invite - invite .... Will they go? So far, only the reverse process .....
And in general, all these so-called. young and talented only get in the way

[Sergey Trunoff]

Quote: Andriuha077

AI will pull the search for red lines?

AI will not pull, because the red lines are constantly making quantum leaps.

[Andriuha077]

The responsible gentlemen from the picture have red lines tied right around their necks.

[Dikson]

OH, how great! The path is not in the real world, so at least in the quantum, virtual, we will be ahead of the rest! The main thing is to declare ... We cannot master the release of elementary things by today's standards, but in terms of loud names and statements, we definitely stay in the top five ..

[Alf]

Quote: Dikson

The path is not in the real world, so at least in the quantum, virtual, we will be ahead of the rest! The main thing is to say...

[edmed]

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Enter yourself again.

This scum shits wherever it can, it’s not for nothing that he appropriated “ff” for the ending, such people will not be allowed further than the camp “capo”. but it tries.

[faterdom]

I wonder if the quantum will have a comfortable handle
disintegrator?
Yes, and tell the developers: let them make standard batteries from 18550 cells, otherwise they will attach a proprietary battery, and then the soldier will suffer where to get one. And universal charging for 12/24 DC and 220 AC.
What will be the aiming range of hand weapons - 4 kilometers will pull?
And will there be Picatinny rails.
Yes, be sure to leave the mount for the bayonet-knife - you never know the battery will turn sour.
And so, of course, do it, but more, and thicker!

[jdiver]

And be sure to bang loudly!
https://www.litmir.me/br/?b=72243&p=1&ysclid=l70ebize1j358013820

[AdAstra]

When I read about this, I don’t even know what is better to cry or laugh ...

[Knell wardenheart]

Well, this is Jesuitism - "Russia strives." Who doubts that he strives! Not striving means saying "well, no, it's not ours." But between "strive" and "make every effort" there is an abyss of distance, ladies and gentlemen. Are we doing our best? Yes, even a lot, are we applying?

[TEX-50]

Saw - do not cut!

[Enoch]

Chub-nano has already been built, now a new miracle.

[DienBienPhu]

Aliexpress already sold? :))

[igrok]

Well, they did the calibers, zircons with daggers, but why do you think they can’t do it? That is, people in these institutions are dumber than in other countries or sitting here? And they do some bullshit they don't need?