Zelensky called the conditions for possible negotiations with Russia

Kyiv announced Ukraine's readiness to sit down at the negotiating table with Russia, but put forward one main condition under which the meeting would take place. This was stated by the Ukrainian President.

The day before, Zelensky held talks with Erdogan in Lvov. The Turkish leader tried to convince the President of Ukraine of the need for negotiations with Russia for so long that in the end he agreed, but put forward one, the most important condition, after which Kyiv would be ready to sit down at the negotiating table with Moscow. According to Zelensky, all that is needed is for Russia to withdraw its troops from the "occupied territories" and return all "captured lands" to Ukraine. As soon as all this is done, Ukraine will be ready for negotiations.

For peace talks to begin, Russia must first leave the occupied territories

- Ukrainian media quote Zelensky's words.

It should be noted that this is not the first statement of this kind made by the Ukrainian side. For some reason, representatives of the Kyiv regime believe that negotiations are urgently needed by Moscow, and not by them. Hence the statements that Kyiv will sit down at the negotiating table only after it "liberates the occupied territories." Many European countries have already started talking to Ukraine about the need for negotiations, but Zelensky wants to dictate terms at the negotiating table, and not fulfill Russia's demands. In addition, Great Britain, which controls the office of the President of Ukraine, and Zelensky himself, opposes any agreements with Russia. As stated in London, Kyiv must speak with Moscow from a position of strength.

Meanwhile, Moscow has repeatedly stated that there are no plans to negotiate with Zelensky today, since he does not decide anything on his own. It is emphasized that Ukraine missed its chance to end the conflict, Russia's new demands will be much tougher.

Comments

[tralflot1832]

If for three then Erdogan convinced for 13 minutes, is that a long time? Ze and NATO live in their own world, they win!

[The black]

If for three, then Erdogan convinced for 13 minutes

Judging by the words of the Sultan at a press conference that Turkey will continue to support its friends (Ukraine), he did not convince him.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Black

Judging by the words of the Sultan at a press conference that Turkey will continue to support its friends (Ukraine), he did not convince him.

Erdogan, like all Eastern people, does not forget insults, and many remember when the clown Zelensky sang:
"Erdogan, mustachioed cockroach ....."

Neither Erdogan nor the Turks will forget or forgive this.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: tralflot1832

If for three then Erdogan convinced for 13 minutes, is that a long time?

Everything is relative. Fifteen minutes of talking to a stoned drug addict is a long time!

[bouncyhunter]

This junkie lives in his own illusory world. And in it he is victorious. Here he shakes his rights. But the time will come to catch waste ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Everything is relative. Fifteen minutes of talking to a stoned drug addict is a long time!

Erdogan is sitting - the president, Guterres is the head of the UN and a kid in a T-shirt.
And now, as they said yesterday on TV, "you can imagine Churchill with a cigar in a T-shirt and shorts, or Stalin in a T-shirt and with a pipe in his hands.
This is a farce and a mockery of all UN countries, and of Turkey for the second time, the first time Zelensky called Erdogan a "Mustachioed cockroach". And this is when the issues of war and peace are resolved. I can say that when Germany and Japan signed the Act of Surrender, although they were defeated, look at them, they still have dignity and human faces, and look at Zelensky, he doesn’t even look like a clown.

[igorka357]

And for a drug addict, probably eternity .. but the green man left undefeated ..

[smart ass]

They began to stir with negotiations, which means that the ancient Ukrainians are in trouble at the front. They want to buy time, regroup. This happened in Chechnya, the main thing is not to step on the same rake

[41 REGION]

Quote: Clever man

Want to buy time, regroup

Yes, we don't really mind. let him withdraw troops behind Lvov and regroup there.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: tralflot1832

If for three then Erdogan convinced for 13 minutes, is that a long time? Ze and NATO live in their own world, they win!

Here explain to me, fool, why the clown - the billionaire on the international meeting was pinned in a green jersey?
In the background sits his entire gop company. Same shit...

[tralflot1832]

These T-shirts are a business, at charity auctions they go from $50 to $100.

[41 REGION]

Quote: tralflot1832

These T-shirts are a business, at charity auctions they go from $50 to $100.

Why such a price for rags

[tralflot1832]

Russophobia is now in trend in the West, every millionaire should have such a T-shirt, a kind of indulgence.

[41 REGION]

I have not seen other millionaires in such T-shirts except for the piano player.

[tralflot1832]

And why wear it, you don’t need to wear it, give me money. I will buy Bayroktar.

[NikolayDS]

Quote: Paul Siebert

Here explain to me, fool, why the clown - the billionaire on the international meeting was pinned in a green jersey?

And how to explain it? many explain by the fact that this is a zakos under Chegevaru.
Grandmothers selling pies on the porch of the General Staff say this: when international negotiators arrive, he quietly assents to everyone .. Therefore, the negotiators quickly leave, realizing that there is nothing to talk about with him. Then he goes to the bunker, where a special person sits who writes him a "bream" so that he does not talk too much. And then the next morning he makes some kind of official statement. Therefore, Zelinsky's head is cracking all the time - and this is not from drinking. If you were hit on the head all the time, you would also have a frown. A T-shirt is easier to wash than a formal suit.

PS Zelinsky, wink at us if you are being held hostage.

[smart ass]

I dare to suggest that this figure is stuck in a T-shirt. he's just damn

[Vend]

Condition one is complete and unconditional surrender and liquidation of Nazism and Bandera

[The black]

The Ze Fuhrer, supported and incited by the owners, could not say otherwise. War to the last Ukrainian...

[ABC-schutze]

I alone believe that the Aerospace Forces Rossi, the time has come to "repair" this clown's "talking mechanism"? .. moreover, it has come, quite a long time ago ...

There, it seems, among the Kyiv Natsiks, some "celebrations" are soon planned. About a certain "anniversary". And, even "with a parade" ...

Those. ALL THE REQUIRED PREREQUISITES - military (above all), political, information and propaganda, for "high-precision congratulations" on the mercy of four to five city blocks - are evident.

massive concentration live

[ABC-schutze]

Massive concentration of manpower and military equipment. It is possible that "with the presence of allies." The entire political, military-political and military elite of the Nazis ... Something, someone, "to make a decision", is still needed? ..

Maybe someone is the presence of "foreign guests", incl. and in military uniform "embarrassing"?.. Or, the possible presence of "a large number of civilians"?.. Or the traditional, subsequent anti-Russian "squeal" at the so-called. "west"?

Duc, UNDER THE CONDITIONS of the Russian Armed Forces conducted throughout the ALL TERRITORY of the former united Ukraine, WITHOUT ANY "exceptions", these factors, FIRST OF ALL, should "confuse" the Kyiv Natsiks. And not Moscow and its allies ...

Moscow, when making an appropriate decision, should be "embarrassed" by only one thing - the shelling by the Kyiv Nazis of the Russian territory, infrastructure on it, the shelling by the Kyiv Nazis of the civilian population and civilian infrastructure on the territory of the allies, ALREADY irreversibly cleared of the presence of Bandera-Nazis. And, it seems, from the "embarrassing factors" - EVERYTHING ... Someone else will add something? ..

[ABC-schutze]

Well, the Kyiv Nazis want their accomplices - "foreign guests" or the civilian population (gathered for the BANDERO-NAZI "holiday", by the way ...), traditionally, as a "human shield", traditionally, to use. Let them use it... These are their problems...

And for Moscow, to "clear conscience" it will be quite enough to remind PUBLICLY ON THE EVE that on the entire territory of the former united Ukraine, where there is manpower, military equipment and weapons of the enemy, there are NO LIMITS for the Russian Aerospace Forces, in the conditions of the ongoing JMD.. .
They will not "hear" - an owl - their problems ...

[Zaurbek]

This song is good, start over .... there are many more soldiers.

[tralflot1832]

If it's about a song, Siemens creates a playlist for the turbine. How would they send a song: You pidmanula me!

[sabakina]

Quote: tralflot1832

If it's about a song, Siemens creates a playlist for the turbine. How would they send a song: You pidmanula me!

Andrey, maybe it's better "In my opinion, dude, they threw us"?

[rusich]

And Zeleboba's face will not crack from such desires. Too late to drink "Borjomi". And we have nothing to talk to the puppet

[EXPrompt]

And Zeleboba's face will not crack from such desires. Too late to drink "Borjomi". And we have nothing to talk to the puppet

What did the face not please you, a normal face, a normal rat driven into a corner.
But you are fundamentally wrong, you will have to talk to him ...
And with whom will you sign the surrender of the Saloreikha?

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: EXPrompt

And with whom will you sign the surrender of the Saloreikha?

Well, in Germany they found someone to sign with when Hitler was gone.

[EXPrompt]

First, reach the goal, the client must shoot himself in the bunker, and only then look for deputies. The only way.

[hydrox]

And what grounds do you have to draw up some other documents and demand that the greenery sign them if the owners of the stoned clown refused to negotiate with the Russian Federation either at the end of last year or in the first half of this year?
Moreover, the act of surrender for Russia does not mean ANYTHING, but is simply a form of returning to Russia its legal land holdings, for which the Saloreikha does not have any rights of ownership, disposal and use.

[EXPrompt]

You are a little mistaken, I am only stating the simple fact that at the end of the war you will still have to sign papers, and not with the United States.
Yes, a puppet, but hohlandia is not sovereign, but the surrender is all the same, in fact they will sign it.
And the grounds for signing these papers are always the same, the military victory of the Russian Federation and the impossibility of resistance.

[ABC-schutze]

With "who" to sign the capitulation, in the context of the former united Ukraine, where ALREADY, by an anti-constitutional coup d'état, the constitutional structure of the state was DESTROYED and, since 2014, there is NO LEGAL power, this is a purely technical issue, not a political one. Behind this, sad songs like, (anyway, you will have to sign with him, "it's time to finish. If someone, UNDER THE CURRENT CONDITIONS, LONG DESTROYED by the so-called "West" of international law, is still preoccupied with "formalities" or, which, worse, doubts the COMPLETE IRREVERSIBILITY of the results achieved by Russia and its allies in the course of the NWO - GEO-political, POLITICAL, MILITARY, TERRITORIAL, ECONOMIC, etc., then sign this "surrender" WITH ANY character APPOINTED by YOU, whom YOU, (and not some "other international" uncle consider legitimate. The winner dictates the LAW ... This time ...

Second... And why, in general, "sign" it?

His "opinion" and the opinion of his foreign masters (I remind you, international law LONG DESTROYED) that, should anyone be particularly "excited"? .. What do they "do not recognize" something there? ..

Isn't it time for those who still believe in the "need for contacts" to understand that the POWERFUL (yes-yes) confrontation with the transoceanic Master of the so-called. "West" and its mongrels, is it FOR DECADES and IRREVERSIBLE IN PRINCIPLE? ..

And that all potential "contacts" in such conditions should not be limited to some kind of "confessions" or "restoration of relations." Even, but "gradually" ...

And, only a warning (without any "quotes"), and, ONLY, ONLY, and not some kind of "last") through the operational communication channel, about inflicting a global blow on him and his mongrels, if the enemy does not immediately stop STARTED THEM and THE ACTIONS OPENED BY RUSSIA that jeopardize the statehood and existence of Russia?..

[EXPrompt]

With "who" to sign the capitulation, in the context of the former united Ukraine, where ALREADY, by an anti-constitutional coup d'état, the constitutional structure of the state was DESTROYED and, since 2014, there is NO LEGAL power, this is a purely technical issue, not a political one.

You and I can want anything. But there are facts, our government in the person of GDP recognized
a) the election of Poroshenko as legitimate and even congratulated him .. and
b) no matter how WE protested after the elections.
So legally we recognized that (illegal authority) one way or another, I will tell you even more, we signed agreements with it.
And Minsk2, and the last agreement on grain, etc., etc.
So YOU ​​can think what you want, and our government has recognized them.

[ABC-schutze]

And here, I, just, "strongly disagree" with you ...
For:
1 Our government recognized not "them", but the territorial integrity of Ukraine.
2 CONDITIONED this recognition by UNCONDITIONAL IMPLEMENTATION by "they" of the Minsk agreements signed by "them". Moreover, not just by "execution", but precisely in the ORDER of the items indicated in it ...
3 What provided, THEY RECOGNITION of the right of the DPR and LPR to LEGAL (LEGAL) representation in the highest legislative bodies of Ukraine. + PRELIMINARY AMNESTY + RIGHT of the authorities of the DPR and LPR to create ARMED formations on their territory.
And this is AT LEAST...
4 NOT A SINGLE POINT OF THE Minsk Agreements HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED BY THE Kyiv coup d'état. And, WITHOUT ANY OBJECTIVE REASONS ...
5 i.e. THE CONDITION FOR RECOGNIZING THE TERRITORIAL UNITY OF UKRAINE BY RUSSIA (and not some "them", I'll clarify once again...) as ONE (even already federal) STATE HAS NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED.
6 The above, i.e. The refusal of the Kyiv authorities to implement the Minsk agreements, "automatically", moreover, de jure, removes from the agenda the issue of recognition by Russia of the territorial unity of the FORMER UNITED Ukraine.
7 What was PRACTICALLY CONFIRMED by Russia, NOT by some "congratulations" of any "powder", but by the MASS ISSUANCE OF RUSSIAN PASSPORTS
citizens of the FORMER UNITED Ukraine IN THE TERRITORIES "poroshenko" not controlled. moreover, WITHOUT ANY consultations with these "powders" allegedly "recognized" by Russia.
As, by the way, with the UNACCEPTANCE of the "authorities" of the former united Ukraine, to control the borders of the DPR and LPR with Russia, WITHOUT PRELIMINARY coordination of this issue by "powders" with the authorities of the DPR and LPR.

So, references to "congratulations to the powdered ones", as a kind of "fact", a kind of "recognition" by Russia of the LEGALITY of the regime of the Kyiv coup d'état, WILL BE NOT ENOUGH ...

Something like that...

[EXPrompt]

Everything is mixed horses, people in your brains.

1 When you recognize the elections and their results, and congratulate the PO, you do not recognize the territorial integrity of Ukraine, but you recognize the fact and legitimacy of the elected president .. YOU recognize them as the legitimate authority in the state of U.
In this case, Poe and his legitimacy of election were recognized.
What does the territory have to do with it, and the conditions of Minsk2?
2 For the recognition of territories, there is a special. documents - an agreement on the demarcation of borders between the Russian Federation and Ukraine.
You do not confuse one with another.
3 The issue of non-recognition of the Ukrainian borders in the Russian Federation was resolved differently, the friendship agreement between the Russian Federation and Ukarin ceased to be valid, and part of this agreement, I remind you, was an agreement on the demarcation of borders ...
Examine the question.
And most importantly, do not invent something that does not exist.

Once again, the authorities of the Russian Federation, de facto, long ago in 2015 recognized the legitimacy of the authorities in Ukarin, and recognized the legitimacy of her election by all the people 404.
So whether you like it or not, YOU will sign any agreements with them, or their representatives, although these are still those scumbags and fascists.
I remind you that the signer of the surrender, General Krebs, was a Nazi, but this did not change the outcome of the war in any way and did not diminish the significance of the document on the surrender of the FG.

[ABC-schutze]

You gave me many "valuable instructions", but you failed to do the main thing ...

1 Explain clearly why you, in your reply-comment, never once referred to the Minsk agreements? ..
At least, in order to justify the "legal impossibility" of linking them, "as such" and their "fulfillment - non-fulfillment" by the Kyiv coup d'état, AS A DETERMINING factor in the recognition or non-recognition by Russia, both of the territorial integrity of the former united Ukraine, and of "legitimacy" itself the authorities of the Kyiv revolutionaries ...

2. In your references to "technical procedures" - such as "demarcation of borders", or purely "protocol gestures", such as "congratulations", as to "facts" of some kind of "official" recognition by Russia of the "legitimacy" of the power of the Kyiv overthrowers (by the way, where?.. On the territory "controlled" by them?.. Or "on the whole" territory" of the former united Ukraine?..), you are amusingly inconsistent and contradict yourself. In particular, the "one-sided selectivity" of the texture you cite in support of your positions...

[ABC-schutze]

Let's start with "official congratulations"...

Didn't you notice that AT THE SAME time, the leaders of the DPR and LPR were quite officially received in the Kremlin? .. And in the Federal Assembly? .. And by no means by "private invitations"? ..

Zakharchenko, moreover, if my memory serves me right, was even quite officially invited to the Victory Parade in Moscow. And it looked pretty good...

You "didn't notice" that DURING THE AGREEMENT AND SIGNING OF THE INTERNATIONAL Minsk agreements, as well as AFTER they were signed,
Russia, OFFICIALLY represented the INTERESTS of the DPR and LPR, but not "Kyiv" at all? ..

Both in contacts with the Kyiv authorities, and at the international level?..

You, "having studied the issue", did not realize that the "demarcation of borders" you mentioned was carried out by Russia according to agreements signed PREVIOUSLY with the LEGAL authorities of the former united Ukraine? ..

And what, the ANTI-constitutional coup d'état in the former united Ukraine, has a LEGAL consequence not just - an "illegal seizure" of power and an "illegal overthrow" of legitimate power, but a COMPLETE CRASH OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL ORGANIZATION of the Ukrainian state? ..

For you, who "studied the issue", I believe, it is a "big secret" that the Constitution of the Country, as such, is a CONCEPTUALLY and SUBSTANTIVELY SOLID and INDIVIDUAL document? .. And, as such, determines the ALL structure of the state? .. That is ., its political system (system), economic system, powers and structure of authorities, administrative-territorial division?..

And that from the Constitution, it is FUNDAMENTALLY IMPOSSIBLE, ILLEGAL to "pull out" a certain "separate brick" (say, overthrow the legitimate president and disperse the legally elected Constitutional Court, as happened in the former united Ukraine), and, after that, "pretend" that " everything else "as if" remained unchanged.

Or rather, you can "pretend" (the laws of physics do not prohibit this ...). But to prove IT in another, LEGAL way, you will not succeed. There are simply "no" in international law such "arguments" that would allow "individual" characters to "selectively" violate the Constitution, and law-abiding citizens who did not support the coup d'état and did not overthrow the legitimate government, to obey the demands and actions of the coup d'état.

Russia has NEVER CARRIED OUT ANY "border demarcation" with the authorities of the former united Ukraine, AFTER the illegal overthrow of its LAST LEGAL President, Viktor Yanukovych (a corrupt official, by the way...). To whom, by the way, as the LEGAL and RECOGNIZED President of the European Union, in the spring of 2014, he gave OFFICIAL "guarantees" ...

By the way ...

Pomyantuy, you, in vain gene. Krebs, signed the MILITARY surrender. And the destruction of the POLITICAL regime and STATEHOOD of the Third Reich, manifested itself in the FACT of the suicide of the head of this regime and state, Adolf Hitler.
Which, EXACTLY IN THIS WAY, SURRENDERED (without any "quotes") EXACTLY before the SOVIET troops that surrounded Berlin and the Reich Chancellery ...

And who, according to the Constitution of the Third Reich, was the Fuhrer of the ENTIRE GERMAN NATION. And not just the "head" of the government ...

Here, something like this ... I understand that it is "non-standard", but reasoned ...

Behind this, "studying the question", look wider and deeper. And not only "dig" the "protocol-procedural" invoice ...

[ABC-schutze]

By the way, if you decide to object to me regarding my "interpretation" of the surrender of Hitler and the Third Reich, EXACTLY FROM THE USSR, I warmly recommend listening to the OFFICIAL MESSAGE of Berlin Radio. In which it was OFFICIALLY stated that "today, April 30, 1945", the Fuhrer of the German nation, Adolf Hitler, "fell in the fight against BOLSHEVISM" ...

[kor1vet1974]

According to Zelensky, all that is needed is for Russia to withdraw its troops from the "occupied territories" and return all "captured lands" to Ukraine. As soon as all this is done, Ukraine will be ready for negotiations.

Even commenting is pointless, such a statement. Erdogan did not persuade The main thing is that the grain will go to Turkey and the plant for the production of UAVs has been built.

[paul3390]

For the time being, we do not seem to be occupying anything from the original Ukrainian territories. And we just return ours, once given to use ...

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: paul3390

For the time being, we do not seem to be occupying anything from the original Ukrainian territories.

And they - "primordial" - were in general, in nature?

[paul3390]

Well, okay, you can count the territory of the Hetmanate as such before joining the Republic of Ingushetia .. One hell, there was nothing useful there.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: paul3390

it is possible to count the territory of the Hetmanate as such before joining the Republic of Ingushetia

Is that with a ba-a-alshoy stretch.

[hydrox]

How so?
Of course they were!
And who could cede to the skakuas the territories that they dug up in order to create the Black Sea!
So we will use the sea for rehabilitation and thank God that the skakuas do not demand rent from us for the use of resort lands, and there is not a word about beaches in the contract!

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: hydrox

And who could cede to the skakuas the territories that they dug up in order to create the Black Sea!

They dug at night, while the owners were sleeping, probably ...

[GAndr]

And then he woke up ...

[Ru_Na]

Zelya deliberately sets an impossible condition, thereby showing his true attitude to the negotiations.

[Saboteur_Navy]

While Zelensky is in power, Russia does not need negotiations at all

[Egoza]

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

While Zelensky is in power, Russia does not need negotiations at all

Whoever is in power in Ukraine! If "he" does not accept Moscow's conditions, then there should be no conversations with "him".

[EXPrompt]

Surrender of the Saloreikha, the initial condition for any negotiations.

[Emergency]

He sniffed. He's not just a drug addict. He is an Idiot!

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

According to Zelensky, all that is needed is for Russia to withdraw its troops from the "occupied territories" and return all "captured lands" to Ukraine

***
- And Zelensky personally - a new piano ...

***

[Uprun]

The primordially Russian lands are still under the heel of the fascist junta ..., it is such a decommunization ..., to the last shred ....

[rocket757]

Zelensky called

Named and named ... let him go ... dives into his "white joy".

[Mouse]

NOTpossible negotiations with Russia .... and without conditions ...

[O. Bender]

Ears from a dead donkey, and not Russian land. It is clear that the zeleboba has clear indications of a war to the last Ukrainian

[Alexey-74]

Everyone understands who is puppeting Ze and the company, why should he be persuaded to negotiate with Russia ?! There is a program that the former comedian must work through to the end, and Russia only forward, not to make any compromises.

[Uprun]

Or maybe everything was different ..... Behind the scenes: "Boys !!! I'm in favor with both hands, but the old can does not order ..., threatens to let the world go ...., even tomorrow I I'll sign it....and I don't need the presidency anymore...he's drunk...but with his bare ass at will....You understand....and the family, and the children...? not sickly .... They sent me a text from across the ocean to meet with you .... in three days to learn it ..., yesterday they rehearsed on Skype .... ".

[kor1vet1974]

But without jokes, yes, yes. He has elections on his nose, the voter will not understand, with the transfer of territories. Before he promised one thing: to return both Crimea and deal with the Donbass. And try to explain the change? And before the elections, he will not live, they will kill him, sir.

[Egoza]

Quote: kor1vet1974

He has elections on his nose, the voter will not understand, with the transfer of territories. Before he promised one thing: to return both Crimea and deal with the Donbass. And try to explain the change? And before the elections, he will not live, they will kill him, sir.

And the elections may be canceled "due to martial law!" ))) They will say that they will hold it after the "victory". And how to count the voters now? No one knows the real population figures.

[kor1vet1974]

It could well be...

[RaccoonSnake]

Without crushing the economic potential of the enemy, victory cannot be achieved, this is an axiom in modern wars. As long as the infrastructure of Saloreich is not subjected to systematic destruction, one cannot even stutter about any victory. The Bandera people still have a lot of meat, the "partners" will plant weapons. There is not even close to a moral breakdown, they have an excellent psychological treatment of the population. The enemy is getting stronger and stronger. And with the gradual transfer of the war to the territory of the Russian Federation, problems will already begin inside Russia. So it's too early to laugh at Zelensky and write him off. Before the conflict, there were also some chuckles and hatreds.

[Aleks2048]

Meanwhile, Moscow has repeatedly stated that there are no plans to negotiate with Zelensky today, since he does not decide anything on his own.

Meanwhile, this is a complete lie, because in Moscow they admit the possibility of humiliating negotiations, as Peskov and Lavrov and many gentlemen from the official ORT and RTR channels have stated. Moreover, Moscow also asks other states to influence Kyiv in order to persuade it to negotiate. Moscow itself has short handles.
In this regard, Kyiv does not deceive its citizens, they do not want to and do not sit down at the negotiating table.

[Flooding]

Quote: Alex2048

Moreover, Moscow also asks other states to influence Kyiv in order to persuade it to negotiate.

For example.
Who did the Kremlin turn to with a request to help organize negotiations with Kyiv?

[Aleks2048]

For example.
Who did the Kremlin turn to with a request to help organize negotiations with Kyiv?

You write too much. For other examples, I hope you can.

Russian Foreign Ministry official: Washington should force Zelensky to negotiate with Moscow to avoid humiliating defeat

You even personally marked it with such a comment.

The best solution for Washington to avoid a humiliating defeat like in Afghanistan would be to force Zelensky to end his senseless resistance.

There is no humiliation in the destruction of Bandera statehood.
There can be nothing humiliating for a rabid animal to be shot.
This is an act of justice.

By the way, such examples can be found here without leaving the site ... There are even more of them in the pernicious Google.

[Flooding]

Quote: Alex2048

Russian Foreign Ministry official: Washington should force Zelensky to negotiate with Moscow to avoid humiliating defeat

This was stated in the TASS interview.
Where is the appeal to other states?
After all, that's exactly what you wrote above.

"Moscow also asks other states to influence Kyiv in order to persuade it to negotiate"

It turns out that they lied.

Quote: Alex2048

you write too much

These are the words of a person who, instead of a substantive answer to a question, dragged a sheet from another topic.

[Aleks2048]

These are the words of a person who, instead of a substantive answer to a question, dragged a sheet from another topic.

If your comment was in a negative way in relation to that topic, this does not mean that the fact of the event was absent. This simply indicates that either you do not remember such an event, or consciously do not want to advertise it. This is exactly the same as what L. Trass does, and apparently those comparisons that are given in the article on a respected military review are not an insult. Hope you can find it yourself.

[Flooding]

Quote: Alex2048

If your comment was in a negative way in relation to that topic, this does not mean that the fact of the event was absent

What fact are you talking about?
I am just asking you to provide information about the fact of the Kremlin's appeal to other states.

You cannot do this.
Stop pouring water.

[Aleks2048]

What fact are you talking about?
I am just asking you to provide information about the fact of the Kremlin's appeal to other states.

Who do you think is an official from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation? Or is he not voicing the Kremlin's position outside? And if not him, then who? And Washington is clearly not the suburbs.

[Flooding]

Quote: Alex2048

Who do you think is an official from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation?

I see a gulf between a TASS interview with a personal opinion on any issue and "appeal to other states with a request."

The official said what he thought Washington should do.
You are now trying to pull his words on your own comment that Moscow turned to someone.
Shame on you?

[Aleks2048]

Shame on you?

I am ashamed of the Kremlin's requests of this kind and of attempts to justify this.

[Flooding]

Quote: Alex2048

I am ashamed of the Kremlin's requests of this kind and of attempts to justify this.

There was no request.
You are a liar.

The evidence that you are lying is given below.
I will duplicate it in this comment.
Follow the link to TASS to read what the diplomat actually said.

Washington, in order to avoid defeat, should force Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to return to the negotiating table with Russia, this would be the best solution for the United States. This was stated in an interview with TASS by the director of the North America Department of the Russian Foreign Ministry Alexander Darchiev.

https://tass.ru/politika/15462915

This is the same source that all the media refer to.

[Aleks2048]

Where is the appeal to other states?

And you open the map and I think the location of Washington can surprise you a lot.

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Quote: Alex2048

You open the map and I think the location of Washington may surprise you a lot

What are you talking about?
I just asked to confirm your words

Quote: Alex2048

Moscow also asks other states to influence Kyiv in order to persuade it to negotiate

Does this require a map?
How will she help you get out of the uncomfortable position you find yourself in?

[Aleks2048]

If for you an official from the Russian Foreign Ministry asking Washington (I am reporting this is another US state) assistance in persuading Zelensky to sit down at the negotiating table - nothing. I don’t even know who, in your opinion, should voice such requests? Probably only you personally, or you don’t trust yourself with this either?
So what exactly do you not like? Summarize?
1) There is an official from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, who, by virtue of his official duties, voices the Kremlin's wishes in foreign policy.
2) there is a US state to which the above-described official addressed
3) there is a non-ambiguous request to seat Zelensky at the negotiating table with Moscow.

Further, continue to aggravate your uncomfortable situation for your inappropriate comparisons of others with liars, or are you not here either? I can remind you, although the above is enough for you.

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Quote: Alex2048

If for you an official from the Russian Foreign Ministry asking Washington (I report this is another US state) assistance in persuading Zelensky to sit down at the negotiating table.

Outright lies.
The official did not ask anyone.

Washington, in order to avoid defeat, should force Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to return to the negotiating table with Russia, this would be the best solution for the United States. This was stated in an interview with TASS by the director of the North America Department of the Russian Foreign Ministry Alexander Darchiev.

https://tass.ru/politika/15462915

This is the same source that all the media refer to.

[astra wild2]

"write too much" Do you not like Lenin's decree on universal literacy?

[Aleks2048]

write too much "Do you not like Lenin's decree on universal literacy?

I don't like it when people, from the humming of trying to lick the authorities better, have a memory like a fish.
By the way, do you still live there?

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Quote: Alex2048

I don't like it when people get mad

From someone's yelling to your lies, there are millions of parsecs, in which sanity and objectivity fit perfectly.

You would first learn to be responsible for your words.
And then you learn who and how to lick.

[Aleks2048]

You would first learn to be responsible for your words.

Who voted for responsibility? And the same person who was brought by his own words in the very “sheet” that you decided not to notice. There, judging by your comment, you, being a "patriot", understood everything correctly and rushed to deny the possibility of negotiations. And here, as proof, you needed at least a paper signed no lower than Lavrov. Or will you deny it too? To me, this is complete hypocrisy. And by the way, maybe you found somewhere during this time a note that that official from the Russian Foreign Ministry was punished for indefatigable amateur performance, so to speak, so as not to look like a liar and verbiage yourself? You are here trying to prove that Moscow is not skimming requests to other countries for negotiations. And here it is?! The official is sculpting ... well, it would be nice to quietly send the paper, otherwise it would be broadcast live and immediately to the whole world. After all, if the bureaucrat voiced his personal opinion to the detriment of the state, then he is punished? Or not? Or is it easier for you to admit that something is rotten in the vertical of power, and if so, who exactly?

And then you learn who and how to lick.

And this is not for me to teach such a master as you.

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Quote: Alex2048

Who voted for responsibility? And the same person who was brought by his own words in the very “sheet” that you decided not to notice

I don't go back on my words.
Ready to repeat them.
What exactly got you excited about them?

There is no humiliation in the destruction of Bandera statehood.
There can be nothing humiliating for a rabid animal to be shot.
This is an act of justice

What are you trying to accuse me of? I am not ashamed of these words.

Quote: Alex2048

here, as proof, you needed at least a paper signed no lower than Lavrov

Stop grimacing and clown.
You lied, but you lack the courage to admit you were wrong.
You should stop in time to save what's left of your face.
But you continue to spin the topic on which you scalded, with the persistence of a maniac.

Quote: Alex2048

By the way, you may have found somewhere during this time a note that that official from the Russian Foreign Ministry was punished for indefatigable amateur performance

Didn't set out to do that.
For what? I proved that you are a liar.

Now you yourself are adding even more to your shame.

[Aleks2048]

I proved that you are a liar.

Now you yourself are adding even more to your shame.

The hypocrisy is bigger than you. Proof has not matured.

“Since April, the Ukrainian side has left communication on the topics of negotiations. It would be great if European leaders influenced the leadership of Ukraine in order to encourage them to take a sober look at the situation,” Dmitry Peskov spoke about the possibility of resuming negotiations in early June.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/russian/features-62547283.amp

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Quote: Alex2048

The hypocrisy is bigger than you. Proof has not matured

How much do you think the opinion of a liar is valuable to me?
Not worth a penny.

Quote: Alex2048

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/russian/features-62547283.amp

All you have to do is refer to the BBC.
Once again exposed his lies and public ridicule

Quote: Alex2048

Moreover, Moscow also asks other states to influence Kyiv in order to persuade it to negotiate

Are you a masochist?

[Aleks2048]

All you have to do is refer to the BBC.

So can you prove that the quote is false?
Or someone turned out to be a liar and a slanderer for show and general mockery.

Are you a masochist?

In this case, I'm a sadist.
I'm just having fun seeing how far you'll go in urapatriotism? You don’t think that Peskov and his quote are extreme proof of the pose of a beggar in Moscow, do you?

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Quote: Alex2048

So can you prove that the quote is false?

You don't turn upside down.
You failed to prove your words that the Kremlin turned to other states for mediation in negotiations with Ukraine.

With what fright did you decide that I would now refute what you dug up in the Air Force dump?
Peskov's words that are not related to the subject of the dispute.
Funny.

If you lie and slander the authorities, then you are a fighter for the truth.
If you defend the truth and expose such a liar, then you are a urapatriot.
You could use a general cleaning in the attic.

The truth should not depend on political views. Otherwise, she becomes the subject of bargaining with her own conscience. And yes, in this case, those who have less conscience often win.

[astra wild2]

I always remember that V. I. Lenin, the basis of the foundations ..
It even offends me when "hurray patriots" put Stalin around. Type: shoot, Stalin would put things in order and so on.
I am sure that the first whom Stalin ordered to be shot were his ardent admirers. He perfectly remembered who is who.
P.
S.
Demyan Bedny, in spite of his previous merits, received a "thrashing" from Stalin for being anti-religious and distorting history.
And his favorite historians: Karamzin, Klyuchevsky, Pogodin .. Just these historians are not always "honored" on the site

[Igor Pushkino]

If we continue to chew snot like this: so be it.

[Roust]

No negotiations, the end of the schenevmerla already close.

[Voenoboz]

The muzzle is already broken and the eyes are swollen, there are no teeth, but I'm a hero lisping.

[zloybond]

It looks like Voldemar Hitlerovich is smoking something wrong, since he throws such slogans

[iouris]

And why in Lviv? Who are all these people?

[Altmann]

Russia cannot enter into such negotiations. Russia must act from a position of strength. I am fully convinced of this.

[Rybkin]

The clown begins to act according to the principle - "so don't get you to anyone"!

[Cheshirskicat]

It is very likely that before this meeting he was pretty loaded with white, otherwise it is simply impossible to explain this nonsense that he was talking about.

[Raven 95]

Nothing new. And why this gop-company was going to ....

[iouris]

What did they actually "discuss" in such a composition? Nobody knows for sure.
Most likely, guarantees to the "guarantor" that he would make the only correct decision (which was given to him by "respectable people"). Erdogan knows who, but Gutierres is a scoundrel.
And for the "press", as expected, a statement was made about invincibility and ..., in short, "Siegheil!" and "Foreigners will help us!"

[sgr291158]

He also dictates the condition, he’s completely stoned or something.

[Commissar of the NKVD]

Wash yourself, little green scarecrow, it's disgusting to look at you. T-shirt puffed up, pants pulled out of the ass. Smells like a bum

[Dkuznecov]

Not this way.
Listen to the interview of Podolyaki (a)? BBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsRJ9RGYfBo
There is a specific position and it is explained what is
Zelensky's opinion (and this is the official's private opinion),
and there is the position of Ukraine as a state.
As I understand it, Zelensky is working
to the internal information market, nothing more.

[-ш-]

once already left. what ukra? and she called it a win and made a clumsy movie about a storm