The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced the resumption of the offensive of Russian troops on Barvenkovo ​​in the Kharkiv region

It became known that Russian troops resumed offensive operations in the southeast of the Kharkov region. Moreover, such information is provided by the Ukrainian General Staff.

The material of the Ukrainian command reported that the Russian Armed Forces resumed the offensive towards the settlement of Barvenkovo. For several months, Ukrainian troops tried to turn this city into a kind of fortress in order to prevent the Russian army from expanding the front of the offensive towards Slavyansk, and also to delay the advance southeast of Kharkov.

The Ukrainian report provides information that Russian troops are advancing towards Novaya Dmitrovka from the side of the village of Suligovka, and from the side of Barbashovka - to Karnaukhovka.

At the same time, the Ukrainian General Staff does not say anything about the intermediate result of these offensive actions of the RF Armed Forces in the direction of Barvenkovo. This fact attracts special attention due to the fact that usually the Ukrainian command, when commenting on the offensives of the Russian army, declares either “the enemy has been thrown back” or “partial success”. In this case, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine remains silent.

Barvenkovo ​​in the indicated direction is in many ways a key link in the defense line of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. After all, Ukrainian troops from there are trying to prevent our troops from advancing not only to Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, but also to go in the direction of Dnepropetrovsk Pavlodar. In this regard, the possession of the city of Barvenkovo ​​is important for the liberation operation in the vast territory from Kharkov to the Slavic-Kramatorsk agglomeration with the possibility of access to the Dnipropetrovsk region.

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[poquello]

"Barvenkovo. Ukrainian troops have been trying to turn this city into a kind of fortress for several months,"
nothing, nothing, Dill sands have been preparing for 8 years - it didn’t help

[Comrade I]

In fact, it helped to hold out for a long time against a superior army.

[Terenin]

about partial success

If it so happened, then we will consider partial success - this is when we return our territory in parts. And the parts make up the whole. So everything is correct.

[poquello]

Quote: Comrade Y

In fact, it helped to hold out for a long time against a superior army.

vastly superior? not many people stood against Sand, and when they decided to take it, everything happened quickly

[aglet]

"greatly superior? not many people stood against Pesok"
so there were few people in the sands. a lot just won't fit

[Comrade I]

And then there is the "people". I'm talking about the overall superiority, including artillery and aircraft.

[EMMM]

Maybe I'm stupid, but for me iron is better than losing our guys.

[alexey sidykin]

Quote: Comrade Y

In fact, it helped to hold out for a long time against a superior army.

Who has a superior army and in what? Judging by the comments here, on the contrary, this APU is orders of magnitude superior to us. Not only in manpower, there is at least a twofold advantage in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But also in technical equipment ... so what kind of advantage are you talking about?

[Comrade I]

Why are you telling me this? I never said that we do not have an advantage in technology.
And what does this have to do with manpower, the advantage is not only made up of it, but in modern warfare it is more likely mainly from technical superiority. We obviously have much more artillery, missiles and aviation.

[alexey sidykin]

Are you going back on your words? By the way, if we had more art, not much, but the APU will have more combat experience.

[marc75]

Enough to stand on ceremony and regret already, the whole of Ukraine needs to be treated with fire, otherwise 35 million will be grinded for a long time, they are already putting women on high school.

[Flooding]

Quote: marc75

35 million long grind

Nobody will let you.
That is not why Russia came to Ukraine.

[Terenin]

Quote: Flood

Quote: marc75

35 million long grind

Nobody will let you.
That is not why Russia came to Ukraine.

Well, there is still a lot to be sent to the "prophet".
Or is there another recipe for re-educating killers?

[Flooding]

Quote: Terenin

Well, there is still a lot to be sent to the "prophet".
Or is there another recipe for re-educating killers?

Uh, no.
It is not necessary to write down 35 million in Bandera and murderers.
This discredits the denazification operation.
And multiplies her goals by zero.

[Terenin]

Quote: Flood

Uh, no.

Eee, yes!

Quote: Flood

It is not necessary to write down 35 million in Bandera and murderers.

Don't worry, there are no superfluous defendants in the criminal cases on the crimes of Bandera.

[Flooding]

Quote: Terenin

Don't worry, there are no superfluous defendants in the criminal cases on the crimes of Bandera.

And you didn’t notice the word about 35 million.
And what I wrote about this, also passed by your attention.
It happens.
It is called impartiality and impartiality.

[Terenin]

Quote: Flood

Quote: Terenin

Don't worry, there are no superfluous defendants in the criminal cases on the crimes of Bandera.

And you didn’t notice the word about 35 million.
And what I wrote about this, also passed by your attention.
It happens.
It is called impartiality and impartiality.

Dear Mr. Navodlom I still don’t answer many, many stupid things and don’t notice them.

[Flooding]

Quote: Terenin

Dear Mr. Navodlom

Maybe just Vladimir.
"Mr." makes me sick.

Quote: Terenin

I don’t answer many, many stupid things and don’t notice them.

If you don’t fight stupid things, then it may turn out that soon there will be no one to fight stupid things.

[den3080]

Somehow, excuse me, I began to doubt on the 6th month of the NWO in all these: yes, we are working carefully ... we are trying to save the infrastructure ... we have hoo!!! victory is ours… but their morale is low, they desert in droves, they don’t know how to fight, the commanders all ran away…

It would seem... if so... why aren't Russian troops in Mukachevo or Chop yet? Why are the Armed Forces of Ukraine shelling Donetsk, sabotage in the Crimea and the “continental” border zone of the Russian Federation at a depth of more than 100 km…

Many have seen the “accurate work” of Russian artillery in a considerable number of videos ... It’s good if 10 out of 2 shells fall next (20 meters) to the target, and this is the best of the footage, as I understand it.

Many saw in the videos Mariupol, Severodonetsk, and so on and so forth, it is very similar to the recaptured Stalingrad during the Second World War.
It's been several months and progress is minimal. Six months have passed since the beginning of the NWO, these unfortunate Sands were taken ... who is there, on the other side, is fighting something? deserters, untrained cannon fodder, which the machine gun does not know which side to take ... without commanders, besides ... ??

With real life, Russian officialdom, comments about the NWO, correlates rather weakly, in my unenlightened opinion.

If “... you haven’t started seriously yet ...” ... so start in the end, Yoshka Mashka, show the heroic strength, get it ... well, swords-treasurers or something ... once wound up with this SVO.
eehma

[Terenin]

Quote: den3080

Somehow, excuse me, I began to doubt on the 6th month of the CBO in all these: yes, we are working carefully ... trying to save the infrastructure ... we have hoo!!! victory is ours…

The normal state of a normal person.

Quote: den3080

If “... you haven’t started seriously yet ...” ... so start in the end, Yoshka Mashka, show the heroic strength, get it ... well, swords-treasurers or something ... once wound up with this SVO.
eehma

I must admit we did not expect such a course of development of hostilities. By the way, no one else and never hostilities did not go strictly according to plan. No big deal, it's just a matter of timing. The main thing is to eliminate losses, and it succeeds. We'll make up the rest.
But, the fact that the NWO has already, on a geopolitical scale, caused image and economic damage to the West, led by the United States, is indisputable.
And, in the country, it exposed almost all the pro-Westernness of "our" oligarchs. It can no longer be hidden or veiled.
It would be desirable cardinal changes (and I - for!), but, not all at once.

[den3080]

We had to wait! Direct duty, that is.
And take all measures to achieve your goals.
But the goals and objectives, at least from the TV screens, were voiced extremely vaguely, vaguely, although briefly
I, the layman, still cannot understand what Russia wants to achieve.
No… of course, high-profile and comprehensive, general political, geostrategic and other tasks sound correct, but the actions… in particular military ones, are clearly lagging behind, or rather do not correspond to what is being declared.
Again. The advance is miliperous - this allows the enemy to build new lines of defense, which will also have to be taken long and painfully. I read about the offensive / defensive operations of the Second World War, more modern - about the operations of the Americans in Iraq. Such, excuse me, tyagomotiny, was not observed.
the task is set - funds are allocated - the task is completed, if the fulfillment is NOT achieved - reserves are provided and so on.
In the NWO, this is my feeling, everything is blurry, they rushed there, rushed here ... I'm not talking about those who "in the field" perform the task of taking the height, the village, that dugout ... they are heroes.
but just about those who set strategic tasks - what we want to get in the end for these responsible comrades seems to be unclear themselves. I'm fighting... mmm... because I'm fighting
Here's how I think. And this is not happy.
some seams there

[Terenin]

Quote: den3080

I read about the offensive / defensive operations of the Second World War, more modern - about the operations of the Americans in Iraq. Such, excuse me, tyagomotiny, was not observed.

Well, if you work and analyze military-historical materials, then it is interesting to know your opinion on the state of Russian military defense, the causes of shortcomings and measures to eliminate them ...
And, how would you conduct it, but taking into account the security of logistics, the availability of humanitarian aid to the liberated territories, the readiness to replace the CVA in government bodies, etc.

Py.Sy. Reasoning like, "on the move to smash the armies of Ukraine, the Baltic states, Poland ... well, the whole of NATO, or the use of nuclear weapons ..." does not work.

[den3080]

Of course, it doesn’t roll - to smash all the armies of all enemies at once and hoist the flag ... well, somewhere in the highest / place of honor
And I am not able to conduct any analysis of the CBO, for obvious reasons.
But the external signs of the passage of the current SVO, in comparison with what I have listed from the already historically known, accessible and largely declassified, indicate that someone at the top very badly, let's say, screwed up, and not alone, there is a whole team strategists - "past the cash register", because alone such decisions are not prepared and are not made.
and this ... I also believe that a whole team or teams of Western "operators" were awarded awards by secret orders of their superiors - for misleading the top military-political leadership of the Russian Federation.
Someday we will find out, although I am unlikely to live to see it, due to my age.

PS. I read it in the running line now.
"The use of nuclear weapons by Moscow is possible only as a response - Russian Foreign Ministry."
I wanted to ask the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: Who are you talking about? From whom or why is your endless and helpless sniffing saving you? And to be silent, at least, is not fate ?? well... for the sake of solidity...

[Terenin]

Quote: den3080

they gave awards by secret orders of their superiors - for misleading the top military-political leadership of the Russian Federation.

To some extent, it is not excluded

Oh, it's not hard to fool me!
I'm glad to be deceived!

[Clear]

Quote: Terenin

And, in the country, it exposed almost all the pro-Westernness of "our" oligarchs. It can no longer be hidden or veiled.

You can’t even imagine what kind of hope the capital of the Russian Federation has (groundless) that everything will “return to normal”. That's why everything is so slowly rebuilt.

[Vlad_N]

In 1942, my great-grandfather died in the Barvenkovsky cauldron. 80 years later, in the same place, the Nazis again rampage. Take that bastard out guys!

[Alexander Salenko]

My great-grandfather died near Warsaw, as if hinting that someone will get drunk?
In general, you are right, Bervenkovsky ledge. Saur-Mogila, battles for Kharkov, the Nikopol bridgehead is next.

[Terenin]

Quote: Vlad_N

In 1942, my great-grandfather died in the Barvenkovsky cauldron. 80 years later, in the same place, the Nazis again rampage. Take that bastard out guys!

Will definitely be taken down.
Just do not rush and repeat what price the people and the country had to pay in the same 1942 for the mistakes of military-political mediocrity and careerists

According to the recollections of those who managed to escape from the boiler, a plane from Moscow was sent for Timoshenko, Bagramyan and Khrushchev. On this transporter, these unfortunate commanders flew to the rear, leaving their troops to perish. The soldiers, having learned about this, fired after them, but to no avail ...

By the way, that is why Timoshenko no longer commanded the fronts - at the Headquarters, apparently, they knew how "loved" he was in the troops.

[Clear]

Quote: Terenin

Quote: Vlad_N

In 1942, my great-grandfather died in the Barvenkovsky cauldron. 80 years later, in the same place, the Nazis again rampage. Take that bastard out guys!

Will definitely be taken down.
Just do not rush and repeat what price the people and the country had to pay in the same 1942 for the mistakes of military-political mediocrity and careerists

According to the recollections of those who managed to escape from the boiler, a plane from Moscow was sent for Timoshenko, Bagramyan and Khrushchev. On this transporter, these unfortunate commanders flew to the rear, leaving their troops to perish. The soldiers, having learned about this, fired after them, but to no avail ...

By the way, that is why Timoshenko no longer commanded the fronts - at the Headquarters, apparently, they knew how "loved" he was in the troops.

How can you guess without a war which general is talented and which is not?
It turns out that we need to fight more often in "peacetime" so that there are no such tragedies in wartime.

[Mavrikiy]

In this case, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine remains silent.

Yes sho, say something. "The horses are drunk, the boys are harnessed" ... Call the Swedes for help.

[kor1vet1974]

Call the Swedes for help.

In light of recent events, it sounds relevant.

[Murmur 55]

Borvenkovo ​​and again the KEY settlement they say we will take and how they will sprinkle right up to Kyiv, I write the same about many of us. the points are only the front slowly and in some places it rolls back very slowly and does not collapse and does not collapse, I look at the pictures and videos that from the other side, from ours and 80% of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it seems like men, there are not many youngsters, which means that the resistance is thoughtfully serious. Yes, and from our side, that the liberals, that the patriots are pumping up, they say, everything is gone, soon they will drain, they are preparing for negotiations, optimism and the situation and these conversations do not add.

[HAM]

In fact, we are now clearly getting confirmation of the thesis that Russians and Ukrainians are one people.
Therefore, they are fighting well on the other side ... in 3-4 days, like the Yankees, they do not give up ...
Moreover, plus natural obstinacy, no one has canceled this either.
So the enemy is a serious one ...... you should not belittle their abilities, but also your own capabilities ..

[Shket53]

Good day ... At the end of January of this year ... here in the chat I had a snack with one ... he tried to explain to me that the suckers have no air defense because all the missiles did not pass MOT, that they do not have aviation, that all tanks sold out, and in general, NATO will not fit for SHENEVMERLIA ... attempts to object to this character ... led to the fact that I was bombarded with minuses ... and banned ... and now it’s only the 6th month ... and let God so that this NWO ends in 2023 .... and it would be nice if the entire South-East, as well as Kharkov, Sumy, Chernigov with the regions, would be under the control of Russia ... then it will be possible to take a short break, reorganize, understaff, rearm .... well, keep walking and pushing ... otherwise this Bandera bastard will not give rest

[Uprun]

In a certain area, an unnamed height can be a key one ... on which a lot depends ...., of course, this is tactically ....., and the strategic plan and the success of military operations are formed from the possession of such tactical skyscrapers ....

[2 Level Advisor]

why are we always advancing on the "fortress" on purpose? can’t they be bypassed somehow, or in some other way besides destroying them “on the forehead”? or all the same, this is for the "red word" since Barvenkovo ​​- they haven't been preparing for exactly 8 years ..

[darkesstcat]

Not everything can be bypassed, the same Avdiivka is bypassed.

[Pulkovo1942]

can’t they be bypassed somehow, or in some other way besides destroying them “on the forehead”?

The Americans drew various scenarios for the course of hostilities on their maps: 1. one large cauldron 2. many small ones 3. frontal assault.
What option are we seeing now? I don't think it's necessary to explain.

[Nastia makarova]

option 2 of course

[Comrade I]

There are not enough forces for detours, pincers and boilers. Frontal attack only with equal or less infantry than the enemy, but superior in artillery and air.

[Sergey3]

I propose, for the psychological effect, to increase the caliber, not to hollow out this territory with thousands of howitzer shells, but to drop two dozen large-caliber bombs, old, from storage. And then we'll see how they will resist.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

why are we always advancing on the "fortress" on purpose? can’t they be bypassed somehow, or in some other way besides destroying them “on the forehead”?

Why are fortresses being built: they can also be bypassed - guessed 4 thousand years after the construction of the first of them ....

[2 Level Advisor]

not everyone and not always took fortresses - it was by storm .. and sitting behind a wall is one thing, another when large calibers are still pouring on your head .. example- Sands 2x5 km, which is about 10 million square meters. m area.. MLRS city - 145000 sq.m. volley .. you need 69 volleys - cover the entire territory - you can process it in a day or two .. TOC 40000 sq.m. - 250 volleys. we’ll manage in a week ... and there’s also a Hurricane, Tornado, howitzers, mortars, the Air Force .. yes, from the Sands in a month - the Sahara desert could be made without a fight to enter ..

[Pulkovo1942]

and from the side of Barbashovka - to Karnaukhovka.

It's just coming! On Yandex maps, this village is not even displayed (check for yourself).

At the same time, the Ukrainian General Staff says nothing about what is the intermediate result of these offensive actions of the RF Armed Forces in the direction of Barvenkovo.

Don't you see yourself? From Izyum to Barvenkovo ​​36.5 km. When did they take raisins there?

[Nastia makarova]

it is not clear what you are saying

[ln_ln]

Both Barbashovka and Karnaukhovka are displayed.

[NikolayDS]

What do you mean "not displayed"? Excellently displayed. There are no panoramic photos. The village is pretty good. Are you sure you are looking at Yandex maps, and not Pentagon ones?

Quote: Pulkovo1942

On Yandex maps, this village is not even displayed (check it yourself).

[Uprun]

The front is large ... They began to press on a quiet campaign in all directions ...., without dissecting tank wedges .... We are waiting for good news from the south .....

[Arkady007]

Stretch and tear if they themselves have the opportunity.

[Stanislav_Zotov]

The attack on Barvenkovo ​​is the prologue to the attack on Kharkov - the key city of Ukraine, its second capital. Without the liberation of Kharkov, the special operation in Ukraine cannot be considered successful.

[ZoV]

Go ahead guys!!! The United States has begun to fuss sharply, today the junta has allocated another 800 lyams, they are trying to fill up our advancing troops with money ..

[2 Level Advisor]

Meehan, with a new nickname? and why do many say - the junta? the junta is the military seized power..who is the military? Zelya? Lyusya Arestovich?

[VladMirU]

Quote: den3080

I wanted to ask the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: Who are you talking about? From whom or why is your endless and helpless sniffing saving you? And to be silent, at least, is not fate ?? well... for the sake of solidity...

.... Super ! So them. Indeed, it would be better to shut up.

[Cuban]

There is a recipe for the liberation of Ukrainians from Bandera and other rubbish - hang the Jew Zelinsky and move the fronts to South and North America; put an end to the US jail in Guantanamo in Cuba and start shelling Florida Cubans can, together with China, arm these air defense systems to the teeth, since the Jews will smack from submarines and anti-ship missiles, what can be done if there is a desire but no desire

[Sergey Kuzmin]

Barvenkovo ​​in the indicated direction is in many ways a key link in the defense line of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. After all, Ukrainian troops from there are trying to prevent our troops from advancing not only to Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, but also to go in the direction of Dnepropetrovsk Pavlodar. In this regard, the possession of the city of Barvenkovo ​​is important for the liberation operation in the vast territory from Kharkov to the Slavic-Kramatorsk agglomeration with the possibility of access to the Dnipropetrovsk region.

Is it possible to bypass this town? Is it necessary to get involved in street fights there?