Captivity as a chance to survive: Ukrainian prisoners called the reason for the skirmishes between units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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Most of the captured military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine claim that they were mobilized into the army and are at the front for just a few days. Many of them could be recognized by the medical board as unfit for military service for health reasons, but today the Ukrainian command does not pay attention to such “trifles”.

Andrey Rudenko, a VGTRK correspondent, spoke about this in his Telegram channel, showing in a video a small group of Ukrainian servicemen taken prisoner in Maryinka (DPR).



In Ukraine, they grab everyone, oblique, lame - and to the front
- says one of the fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Four militants from Rudenko's story were originally trained to work with Grad multiple launch rocket systems. They would have fired at the positions of the allied forces and civilian infrastructure from afar. But they were not lucky, because the command needed someone to plug another hole in the front. And they were sent to the front line as ordinary infantry. Moreover, when the soldiers were brought to the front line, they were sure that they were somewhere in the rear. They were abandoned there, without communication and practically without officers.

By the way, the Ukrainian prisoners named the reason for the skirmishes between the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which take each other for the enemy. According to them, most often this happens due to the lack of communication and clear instructions from the command.

And although the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are told that the Russians are killing prisoners, they soon begin to perceive a possible captivity as a chance to survive. Soldiers of the allied forces treat them humanely, provide them with food and medical assistance.


And although the captured Ukrainian soldiers are being prepared to be exchanged for captured Russians and fighters of the LDNR, many of them refuse such an opportunity, fearing to get back on the front lines.

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  1. +29
    16 August 2022 13: 22
    More poor and unfortunate cooks and drivers...
    Send for the restoration of Donbass!
    1. +4
      16 August 2022 13: 55
      The main reason is criminal negligence. The rest is her consequence. I hope the right conclusions will be drawn.
  2. +6
    16 August 2022 13: 23
    Another white and fluffy. And so 6 months.
    Will it be the same in October?
    : we are not locals, lagged behind the train to europe, against our good aoli ​​for world peace brought to this trench with our hands tied and blindfolded. What a joy it is to kiss the portrait of a putmin. They are not on the outskirts, but here they are
  3. +21
    16 August 2022 13: 23
    Stop liberalizing with them, ours in captivity are worse than in hell, and give them all 333 pleasures from life! I would feed them a maximum of 1 time per day, they would have actively restored the damaged 18 hours a day within 25 years of continuous work. ...
    1. +5
      16 August 2022 17: 47
      Because we are not Ukrainians, we know that we will continue to live with them. How they fought against the Chechens, how they hated them.. And now. "Ahmat strength!"
      18 hours for 25 years... and where they themselves destroyed everything, wow! So that they still have the locals, whom they allegedly "protected", every day they expressed everything that they think about them.
      And go home, only when the local civilians get bitter towards them. Then "Ukraine" can come to terms with itself, now I don't know how the Donetsk ones can coexist with the Kyiv ones.
      1. +5
        17 August 2022 08: 07
        Akhmat Abdulkhamidovich was on the same side in the first Chechen war. During the second Chechen war, Akhmat Abdulkhamidovich and the Chechens supporting him fought against militants and Wahhabis. And in the end, he gave his life for the unity of the Chechen and Russian peoples, for the fight against Wahhabism.
        It is as if one of the leaders of the Kyiv regime, which fought against the DPR-LPR from 2014 to 2018, changed his mind, changed his mind, gathered several thousand (and tens of thousands across Ukraine) to support Russia and the NWO in 2022.
  4. +7
    16 August 2022 13: 24
    In the photo, the 3rd of the four hold their hands ...., as if they are waiting for a blow to the groin ... Have they seen enough of their own ....? If a prisoner of war - hands at the seams ...
    1. +11
      16 August 2022 13: 42
      Quote from uprun
      In the photo, the 3rd of the four hold their hands ...., as if they are waiting for a blow to the groin ... Have they seen enough of their own ....? If a prisoner of war - hands at the seams ...

      These three are typical chubby ones, they are twisting with their feet, they are wailing with words. Far left - a typical Russian man, looks into the eyes, answers in essence, does not carry game. - Shot? Yes, but chaotically. Will live. For the rest - I would not say, reactants, ..la! ..
  5. +12
    16 August 2022 13: 27
    It is difficult to write something reasonable, but I feel sorry for them as a person. Then I remember how the Ukrainians calmly executed captured Russian officers, young people, and they regretted it. This is war. If you surrender you may survive, if you don't surrender you will die. am
    1. +12
      16 August 2022 13: 37
      Quote: Altmann
      It is difficult to write something reasonable, but I feel sorry for them as a person. Then I remember how the Ukrainians calmly executed captured Russian officers, young people, and they regretted it. This is war. If you surrender you may survive, if you don't surrender you will die. am

      The line of pity passed. Now a clear division into friend or foe. The first time I didn’t get out of the pit - catch a grenade ...
      1. +1
        16 August 2022 17: 59
        The line of pity passed.

        After the "petals", definitely passed.
        The first time I didn’t get out of the pit - catch a grenade ...

        Surrendered, maybe you live, no, definitely a grave.
        sorry for them as a person

        They will become human only in captivity, while this is not the case, they are enemies to be destroyed.
        And yes, I totally agree again.
        The line of pity passed.
  6. +6
    16 August 2022 13: 28
    Well, yes, if he was captured, then as usual - the cook, the nurse, was not going to fight. And if you watch their videos on social networks, we arrange this for maskals and separatists.
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  8. Two
    +6
    16 August 2022 13: 31
    hi It's time to involve these musicians - bakers in restoration work! And then they ate muzzles, slept off. Dispensary right ... Yes
    1. +1
      16 August 2022 18: 15
      It's time to involve these musicians - bakers in restoration work

      But yes! To engage bakers-cooks according to their specialty. Let them show their cooking skills in the settlements liberated from the Armed Forces of Ukraine (possibly under shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine).
      There it will become clear which of them can bake bread or cook porridge, and which only knows how to disassemble and assemble AK.
      I haven’t done the latter for a long time, but I’m sure that the NVP lessons weren’t in vain, so I can, although not to the standard (the bolt-bolt frame can fail). The rest of the hands remember.
      I can handle bread and porridge for 3-4 people too, but for 10 people I’ll just make a mistake in volumes.
      What did the "volyn" say, in the garden they grow cucumbers there ...
      In reality, a dispensary for the underdogs is obtained.
  9. +14
    16 August 2022 13: 31
    Listen to them and break through a tear. And why the hell are they sitting in the trenches to the last? Surrender only in a hopeless situation? No - the law should be the same for both the cook and the tanker, for the mobilized and for the professional military. A prisoner of war should not live like in a resort (especially knowing their attitude towards our captured soldiers).
    1. +3
      16 August 2022 13: 52
      Quote: Leshak
      A prisoner of war should not live like in a resort (especially knowing their attitude towards our captured soldiers).

      Concentration camp - work - soldering - freedom without a clear conscience.
    2. +1
      16 August 2022 13: 57
      I completely agree! Since I was sitting in the trenches with a weapon, answer in full!
  10. +3
    16 August 2022 13: 43
    And although the captured Ukrainian soldiers are being prepared to be exchanged for captured Russians and fighters of the LDNR, many of them refuse such an opportunity, fearing to get back on the front lines.

    Correctly fear.
    No one will ask their desire - by the trunk and into the trench.
  11. +4
    16 August 2022 13: 54
    If not stained with the blood of the innocent, the construction sites of Donbass for 5-10 years for a snack.
  12. +9
    16 August 2022 14: 08
    Quote: Leshak
    And why the hell are they sitting in the trenches to the last? Surrender only in a hopeless situation?

    Smart you, as I can see, dofiga. Getting up out of a trench with your hands up is just pissing. It can fly from both sides. Here they are squealing. Suddenly, a sheep whose relatives were killed will fall on the LDNR ... Or a neighbor in the trench decides to earn a medal ... I would not sharply condemn.
    1. 0
      16 August 2022 15: 09
      A neighbor may decide to just make money ...
    2. +3
      16 August 2022 18: 40
      Getting up out of a trench with your hands up is just pissing

      Not "weepy". There, although they deny it, they are mentally the same Russians. And the Russian "die-zapadlo" and "nezapadlo die." We are at war with a mirror, with a crooked, but a mirror.
      They are exactly the same there, even if they are fooled by propaganda (by the way, they consider us like that),
      but the same stubborn Russians (and maybe more stubborn than the "xoxly" have always been famous for).
      The Yankees think they have made the right bet: only brother with brother can show such hatred. But fuck them! When the brothers make peace, then woe to the one who caused their quarrel.
    3. -1
      17 August 2022 10: 27
      Quote: acetophenon
      Quote: Leshak
      And why the hell are they sitting in the trenches to the last? Surrender only in a hopeless situation?

      Smart you, as I can see, dofiga. Getting up out of a trench with your hands up is just pissing. It can fly from both sides. Here they are squealing. Suddenly, a sheep whose relatives were killed will fall on the LDNR ... Or a neighbor in the trench decides to earn a medal ... I would not sharply condemn.


      Guilt just doesn't happen (R)
      These prisoners are completely to blame in any case, so there is nothing to feel sorry for them.
      For decades they voted for the criminal government in their state, they did not rebel, they calmly, silently watched for 8 years how their brothers in the Donbas were shot.
      And as a result, one way or another, they went to defend the hydness. By call, or by conviction, or for money, this is a measure of guilt but not an excuse. There are a lot of Ukrainians from the Nazi part of the country fighting for the DPR, but these are not like that .. that's the whole story ..
      So show pity for the children worthy of her grandmothers, etc., etc.
      And it’s not worth pitying and justifying those who went to defend guidliness, even when called up.
  13. -1
    16 August 2022 14: 13
    They had a chance to live without taking up arms. Those who took up arms against us, the Russians, can no longer be re-educated, and we do not need them, even in captivity.
    1. +3
      16 August 2022 14: 33
      In Bukovina, they put weapons into the hands of many and you won’t refuse. Westerners have arrived who are not joking. They can take them away from the village and beat them to death.
    2. +4
      17 August 2022 06: 48
      You have no idea what you're talking about. Do you understand that when you are raked into the military registration and enlistment office, then if you refuse, they can corny bang you "When trying to escape" ?? And you, being a corpse, will not prove anything to ANYONE. So don't spout nonsense. I am sure that a sufficient number of Khokhloschweinen would prefer to sit at home, and then swear allegiance to those who win. It's just that you have no idea what it means to refuse the draft when there is a war. It shines like a tower. Either after the tribunal, or by the lawlessness of the National Battalions and the Westerners "when trying to escape." Do yourself a favor and don't talk about things you have no idea about. I am NOT saying that all Khokhloschweinen and Khokhloscheisse are forcibly drafted who did not want to go to war. But there are. By the way, it is precisely those called, forcibly called, who are unlikely to be carriers, cooks, signalmen and musicians. These warm places are occupied by "their own, respected people" in the first place. And they are used very stupidly. Instead of scattering this rabble among units that have received combat experience, so that they are taught something there, they are simply thrown into battle with minimal training. Idiocy. 8 veterans + 1 rookie will do much more than 16 rookies.
    3. +1
      18 August 2022 11: 42
      They didn't have a chance. Did not pick up a weapon - a prison, or a bullet in the back of the head
  14. +5
    16 August 2022 14: 31
    A very good friend told me via Skype that he was lucky to visit Vinnitsa when the club exploded there. Then he saw how they began to make a theater out of it. I managed to escape from the city and thought that I would get to the border of the state in order to get out of Ukraine altogether. I got to Chernivtsi, where he saw what he saw in films about how the Germans did roundups of the population, he saw the same thing in Chernivtsi. They seized all the men in a row, they will sort it out there. He rushed towards the border crossing to Romania and became free. You could rake in and prove nothing to anyone.
  15. 0
    16 August 2022 15: 53
    These are of little use to VFU. Therefore, they are thrown to the front with the task of standing for a day and holding out at night. There are several million more of them in Ukraine. Consumable. More valuable presumably cook better more in time. And save for more important tasks.
  16. +2
    16 August 2022 17: 15
    Amazing news; Lame, cross-eyed, one-eyed people, people with mental problems are thrown into the slaughterhouse. Zelensky turned Ukraine into cannon fodder for US expansionist ambitions
  17. 0
    16 August 2022 18: 22
    In fact, some homeless people have already begun to catch. Is this the whole ukrovermacht?
  18. +1
    17 August 2022 06: 20
    And although the captured Ukrainian soldiers are being prepared to be exchanged for captured Russians and fighters of the LDNR, many of them refuse such an opportunity, fearing to get back on the front lines.
    Of course, they will at least be guaranteed to live in Russian captivity, but there - the Nazis are unlikely to succeed - to live ..., everything is saturated with death there ...
  19. +1
    17 August 2022 06: 41
    I am absolutely not a fan of Ukrainians. From the word at all. I mean, I can't stand them. As you know, I don't call them anything other than khokhloschweinen. But I fully admit that some of the prisoners were indeed mobilized. I admit that some of the prisoners did not want to fight. But this is already your investigators should figure it out. I think that those who will be proved that they were called up and did not commit any serious war crimes, I think 5 years of hard labor will be enough for them. "Work, as you know, makes you free." "Everyone should get his own", and then "Freedom with a clear conscience." As our military instructor joked back in the USSR. "Work, you kind of lazybones, even made a man out of a monkey, maybe hard work even out of you, boobies and gouging, will make something remotely humanoid." It's the same with hohloschweinen. I think that 5 years of hard physical work, in the fresh air, in combination with simple and healthy food, will even make something remotely human-like out of Ukrainians.
    1. +5
      17 August 2022 07: 00
      Quote: Baron Pardus
      I am absolutely not a fan of Ukrainians

      Me too. But you run the risk of using terms here that can be interpreted as "propaganda of nationalism."

      Nothing personal request
    2. +1
      18 August 2022 11: 39
      Baron pardus
      I am absolutely not a fan of Ukrainians. From the word at all. I mean, I can't stand them.

      M-dya. And how do you feel about those whose ancestors are Ukrainians, while living in Russia, and have never spoken Ukrainian?
      Personally, I have a Ukrainian surname, I was born in Omsk, my grandfather was from Zaporozhye (by the way, in Soviet times he raised that plant, which is now called "Motor Cich"), and worked all his life in the aviation industry of the USSR. My father no longer spoke Ukrainian. Not to mention me)) When they gave me a passport and asked about my nationality, I immediately answered - Russian. I have never been interested in Ukraine, and only 2 times I was on business trips in Kyiv. And personally, I do not think that there is such a nation as the Ukrainians. We are all one people. And now there is another civil war on the territory of Great Russia.
      I really hope that we will win, and Ukraine (at least most of it) will again become part of Russia. And we have to live with the people who are there now. Let the most stubborn flee to the West or perish in the battles. And someone will be found by the bullet of the prison executioner. But the rest need to be re-educated. Moreover, not all animals are on the other side either. There are honest patriots of Ukraine, and those who took the oath to that "state". I partly agree with you. Occupational therapy. Not hard labor. Revenge won't change anyone. Only labor to restore the destroyed national economy. And the work of psychologists and political workers. You probably don't know that after the Korean War, American prisoners of war who were in Chinese camps returned to the United States as staunch communists. Because Chinese psychologists and agitators skillfully worked with them!
      1. +2
        18 August 2022 17: 49
        You know, I'll tell you this. Here, in the USA there is an old show "All in the family", one of the main characters is Archie Bunker. Voruchun, a typical blue-collar American from the 50s-60s. He fundamentally dislikes people of color, and especially dislikes liberals. With all this, his best friend - George Jefferson - is a Negro. Now, I'm kind of like Archie Bunker. For all my dislike for some ethnic groups, I make a judgment about each person individually. You know, back in the Union they said "He is, of course, a gypsy, but a decent person."
        Here I am too. I may have prejudices (and have) against more than one ethnic group, but when I meet a new person, the first thing I look for is whether he is an exception to the stereotype or not. So far, despite my prejudice against blacks (see crime statistics, blacks are 14% of the US population and these 14% commit 2/3 of murders, robberies, rapes and robberies), I have quite close friends - blacks. To the point that my cousin is married to a black man - a veteran of the US Navy and a paramedic. So my prejudices have practically no effect on my attitude towards individual people. Your Negro is not a black man. Your own Ukrainian is not a Ukrainian. In the USA, many working blacks will explain to you "dere be us, black folks, and den dere be dem niggas. I don't wanna deal much wid dem niggas. Their crazy asses make all of us all look bad". (yes, I myself know that it is written illiterately and the sentences are built illiterately, but this is how many black people say). Well, the same thing: there are Ukrainians, and there are Ukrainians. :-) Have a nice day, Sir.
      2. +2
        18 August 2022 17: 53
        So "understand and forgive" it is precisely those who have NEVER fought who say. Ask any of our guys who fought in Afghanistan and Iraq how they feel about Muslims in general and Afghans and Iraqis in particular. What you will hear from our guys will shock you. As a rule, ideas like "Let's turn that whole shithole into a glass plated desert" sound - let's turn this cesspool into a glass-covered desert (in the sense after a nuclear strike).
  20. +2
    17 August 2022 07: 11
    Sorry, I'm tired. Burn out 80% of Ukraine with a knee iron, the rest is Donbass ..
  21. NSV
    0
    17 August 2022 07: 20
    What are they needed for?!!?
  22. -1
    17 August 2022 10: 20
    They were abandoned there, without communication and practically without officers.
    Give them the opportunity to survive - to surrender. Only they don't understand it.
  23. -1
    17 August 2022 10: 49
    And why doesn’t anyone say how and who they throw at us, in flip flops and a funeral !!! It is necessary to speak on the merits and see the two sides of the conflict !!! And not criticism directed at one address !!!
  24. +1
    18 August 2022 11: 12
    I risk raking a bunch of minuses, but I don't care. I will speak frankly. Here they offer "hard labor, execution" and other executions by Egyptian sofa warriors, who, except on the screen, have not seen war anywhere else. And they simply do not understand that war has many nuances. Firstly, one way or another, they will learn about the humane treatment of prisoners in Ukraine and in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And vice versa, about the swine attitude towards conscripts in the Armed Forces of Ukraine itself. This is a powerful incentive for those who are already in the Ukrainian trenches to surrender. And for those who are threatened with it - an incentive to run and hide. Perhaps, and here, in Russia. A public refusal to exchange is also a powerful psychological factor. You can not cut everyone under the same brush. In fact, this is the work of the military police, justice and other bodies - to identify those who are really guilty of war crimes. If he only yelled something there, but didn’t do anything else, it’s stupid to judge for it. Even if he honestly held a machine gun in his hands, but he is not guilty of war crimes, then let him atone for his guilt with his work for the benefit of a peaceful life. Do not forget how much of everything after the Great Patriotic War was built by captured Germans. Even a repentant and converted Nazi is a powerful factor in the decomposition of the enemy, an instrument of psychological warfare against him. Humanism is a terrible weapon, much more terrible for the enemy than unjustified cruelty, which ultimately hits the fanatics themselves.
    1. +2
      18 August 2022 17: 54
      The USSR did not crush this reptile after Stalin's death. After 50 years, poisonous seeds gave a harvest - war. Bandera, as an ideology, must be completely destroyed. And ideology is destroyed not only by an ideological war, but also by the direct destruction of the bearers of ideology.
  25. +1
    18 August 2022 11: 51
    I will add. Once again, I want to convey the idea. There is a military-investigative-penal system. Do not think that the prisoners are eating off, as in a resort. I think that they are put on allowances according to military standards.
    Those who are captured, anyway, first fall into the "filters", where they are dealt with by military counterintelligence. Understands, until it is established: is it just a "man in camouflage", or a war criminal? And then - to each his own. "Kamouflazhnikov" - for construction sites, some - for exchange. And the criminals are on trial. By the way, the fact that he jumped and yelled at rallies there is not a crime. In Russia - yes, there is an article, but they are not citizens of Russia. But, if he was engaged in propaganda in social networks, threatened our citizens, collected weapons, recruited, etc., there will be a punishment, even if he did not kill anyone personally