Blogger and participant in the battles in the Donbass: SVO in Ukraine gives birth to new military geniuses for the Russian army

The course of the special military operation confirms Stalin's words that cadres decide everything. But far from always the past combat experience of regular Russian military personnel, real professionals in their field, is applicable here.

This topic is discussed in his Telegram channel by a militia from the Donetsk Republic and war correspondent Maxim Fomin, better known under the pseudonym Vladlen TatarZky.

Any past experience, without a connection with the new reality, becomes harmful.

- he believes, noting that the results should be shown here and now, and not boast of past merits.

The author writes that in the course of the battles for the Donbass, personnel are born who receive their own unique combat experience. They will become the basis for the formation of modern armed forces. It can be said that the NMD in Ukraine gives rise to new military geniuses for the Russian army and the Armed Forces of the Lugansk and Donetsk Republics.

A blogger from Donbass considers it wrong to compare the Ukrainian special operation with the two Chechen wars, since these conflicts are too different. The author of the NerV Telegram channel agrees with his opinion.

It's time to understand that we are not in Chechnya, that the war is different, that everything is tougher here and requires more effort and resources, greater dedication and a higher level of training

- he writes.

Sometimes tactics that were effective in Argun or Shatoi are absolutely inapplicable for Sand or Artemovsk. Accordingly, those people who are in favor of repeating that tactic should reformat themselves to fit the new realities. This will make it possible to create a new generation of command personnel who are ready to learn from the mistakes of past armed conflicts, take into account certain experience and make decisions based on the realities of a special military operation.

It is noted that the fighting in Ukraine is a good school in which you need to study hard. This must be done in order to survive and win.

Comments

[January]

Absolutely right.
There is no point in comparing the war with partisans and the war with regular troops.
A commander who brilliantly proved himself in "hunting for shaitans" may turn out to be a complete zero in the strategy and tactics of positional warfare with regular troops.

[Tatyana]

NVO in Ukraine gives rise to new military geniuses for the Russian army

That's right! For the CRITERION OF TRUTH is PRACTICE - from knowledge of military affairs to combat experience in new historical and scientific-technical conditions.

The main thing at the same time is that all these Russian military geniuses of ours remain alive and pass on their military experience to other servicemen in our Armed Forces.

[Pereira]

And they need to clear the place. Otherwise, parquet floors will rub them.

[tralflot1832]

The army is such an organism that, for the purpose of self-defense, is very difficult to rebuild. It's like that everywhere. Let's see how many colonels from the front line will become Generals after the SVO.

[isv000]

Quote: tralflot1832

The army is such an organism that, for the purpose of self-defense, is very difficult to rebuild. It's like that everywhere. Let's see how many colonels from the front line will become Generals after the SVO.

And how many will leave their posts, like uncle Chernomor (Commander in Chief of the Black Sea Fleet). And how many caprazes will become hydrocolonels ...

[Taimen]

As the birds sat on a branch, they will continue to sit, maybe they will change places. Who will let new ones into such places?

[isv000]

Let me agree with the author and say a huge thank you to our Western partners! With their stupid position, they gave our army an invaluable experience of modern warfare, made it possible to reconsider everything related to weapons and tactics, and thus, THEY got in our person an enemy who is better to bypass by the tenth road.

[Flooding]

Quote: isv000

Let me agree with the author and say a huge thank you to our Western partners!

We have nothing to thank the instigators, provocateurs and instigators for!

It's like thanking the hooligans in the yard for the gouging and the bloody yushka, thanks to which I went to the boxing section.

These lessons cost Russia the most expensive price - the lives and health of its children.

[isv000]

[quote = Breakdown] It's like thanking the hooligans in the yard for the gouges and the bloody yushka, thanks to which I went to the boxing section.

You can thank the bully who champed his yushka when you thanked him, and once again, so that his stomach would weaken from the mere thought of doing mischief in the gateway ...

[Flooding]

I understand what you meant.
And that in some ways the Russophobic position of the EU turns to our advantage.
But thank you is definitely not worth saying.
And they wouldn't understand you.
As never understood Russian.

[Magog_]

But thank you is definitely not worth saying.

"Save-bo[g]", i.e. God bless the one to whom this is addressed. And who does God save? It turns out: big (insane) sinners, on whom neither words, nor prayers and spells work ... Therefore, the answer to "thank you" is "nothing!", i.e., nothing to save, not so much sinful. Including, think about who should say "thank you" ...

[Flooding]

Worried about the sinful souls of Biden and Boris Johnson?
I'm only worried about how they don't knock off their time in hell.

[Vlodek]

when the "funeral" knocks on your house, then you will thank

[Vasilyevich Pensioner]

Blogger from Donbass considers it wrong to compare Ukrainian special operation with two Chechen wars

How many months the CBO has been held, and only in this material did I learn about such a comparison.

It's time to understand that we are not in Chechnya, that the war is different

Nonsense, every war is different, there are no wars of twins. Each requires a different strategy.

those people who are in favor of repeating that tactic should reformat themselves to fit the new realities. This will make it possible to create a new generation of command personnel who are ready to learn from the mistakes of past armed conflicts.

It seems to me that the material consists of slogans, the purpose of which is to stir up the public.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

The conclusions of the blogger also seemed to me banal and shallow ...

[ada]

I support. In this way and with such blogs, not only will we not restore the combat-ready Army and Navy, but in general it is possible to lose the Armed Forces, it remains to be reformatted into a virtual military blogosphere with bloggers-commanders and strategists. With all due respect to people with weapons in their hands and without weapons, who do not spare well-being, life and health for a holy cause - a blogger is not the level for such statements.
Personnel are not born, they are prepared and the main part in this process is training. In war, no one learns in the full sense of this educational process, this is a delusion, they adapt there, show the acquired knowledge, skills and abilities to complete tasks, who are lucky - improve their level, gain experience, and new knowledge, skills and abilities make up an insignificant part and not the fact that they are correct and promising. Personnel do not appear in war - they are lost there, personnel are selected, trained, brought up according to training programs in military institutions
and are formed in the course of training in the OVU and the troops, in additional courses, in the academy, and very desirable - well in advance of the war. Only the need in wartime makes it necessary to reduce this process both in the rear and in the active troops in the course of preparation for an operation, etc. Here one should not confuse the development of new tactics in the troops or methods of using weapons and military equipment and personnel training.
There should be no reformatted troops at all, the command staff and troops should be ready to conduct all forms, methods and methods of war (combat operations, the use and use of forces and means) in any situation, otherwise unprepared troops, as soon as possible, should be replaced by ready and withdrawn to the areas of restoration of combat capability, and the officers of the command staff are removed from command and sent for additional training. To study in the war and train personnel there - there will not be enough population.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Vladlen, DPR militiaman, blogger talks about military geniuses and the era...

It turns out that Napoleon, who talked about the talents of the Duke of Savoy and Marshal Turenne, was not alone in his epistolary....

My regards:

[alexey sidykin]

I don't want to remember how Buonoparte ended

[alexey alexeyev_2]

Blocher - he is also a blocher in Africa .. Krylov’s immediately comes to mind.

[Fedot]

Krylovskoye. "Judge my friend no higher than the boot"

That's what Pushkin said.

[parusnik]

Any past experience, without a connection with the new reality, becomes harmful.

A.E. Korneichuk spoke about this in his play Front (1942).

[Artur Loginov]

The joke was remembered:
One day his son comes to the colonel and asks:
“Dad, tell me when I grow up, will I become a sergeant?”
“Yes, of course you will!”
- Dad, what about a lieutenant?
“And you will become a lieutenant too!”
- A major?
- And a major!
- A colonel?
“Yes, and you will become a colonel.”
- A general ?!
- No, the general has his own son ...
Considering mutual responsibility, nepotism, blat, bribery, and so on. in our power, sir. organs, etc. just funny to read.
Everything has long been bought and divided among their own.

[your1970]

Quote: Artur Loginov

No, the general has his own son...
.

Just clarify - that the joke was already in 1970 and it was about the general's grandson and the opportunity to become a marshal ....
Apparently - based on your logic - even then

Quote: Artur Loginov

Everything has long been bought and divided among their own.

[Mint Gingerbread]

The leap in technology, the close interconnection of economies and the saturation of nuclear weapons will never again allow wars to occur on a scale comparable to the same World War II. Now everything will be divided into large unions. If there are conflicts somewhere, then in the form of local battles with a limited grouping of troops. Hybrid military operations with the impact of sanctions, a new reality.
The number ceases to carry meaning, in the presence of advanced artillery, missile and robotic weapons that cause damage, out of sight of observation.

Now there is a very active development in the field of AI, laser weapons, weapons based on other physical principles, alternative (compact) energy sources, etc. Who knows, maybe in 30-40 years, the world will have guns capable of firing at 100 km with ordinary blanks and traveling 5 thousand km without requiring a crew. Then the war will change its appearance again and you will have to learn anew.

[Lex_is]

The leap in technology, the close interconnection of economies and the saturation of nuclear weapons will never allow wars to happen again.

Ага.
That is why we now see Verdun cosplay.
Return to reality from the sweet world of the wunderwaffe

[iouris]

Each time gives birth to its heroes. Therefore, some heroes stayed too long.

[gromit]

It is necessary to send a spy to the enemy military academies.
After all, they somehow guessed about drones, copters and long-range MLRS there. Moreover, they guessed strongly in advance.
How are their military geniuses born without trench bloody shit?
I suspect that they read some books there, and maybe even listen to lectures.

[Lex_is]

Maybe start small, read enemy FM and ATP where all this is described in sufficient detail? You don't even need spies to do this. Only desire.

[your1970]

Quote from Gromit

long-range MLRS. And they guessed it very well in advance.

Well, long-range MLRS existed back in Soviet times
And there is also a nuance - when "Saint Himars" shoots at a distance - it becomes a banal launcher for ONE missiles and call it MLRS (reactive system Volley fire) - not entirely correct ...

[gromit]

I'm not talking about missiles for 300 and 500 km.
GMLRS family m30. Pack of 6 guided missiles 227mm, range up to 84 km.
Do we have any analogues that can accurately cover a target such as a bridge for 70 km?
i.e. do not cover
chaotically unpredictably a huge area, but precisely destroy a bridge, a building .... ?

[Beloemigrant]

Quote: ian

brilliantly shown

on prigoditsa do borby z banderowskoj partizantkoj w Halickoj Rusi rano jego na pensju pinkami zaganjat

[Beloemigrant]

Quote: isv000

whims

wy kaperangow kaprazami nazywaete? objasnite eto sowremennoje nazwane po ustawu or matroskaja recz po blatu

[DenVB]

Quote from: Beloemigrant

wy kaperangow kaprazami nazywaete?

Wy czto, ne czitali Pokrovskogo i Oveczkina?

[AdAstra]

You rightly noticed it.

[Sebostyuan]

When Akhmat's fighters entered Mariupol, they were given a unit with a UAV. Assessing the effect, the fighters reported to Kadyrov, and he, in turn, bought (according to some sources, 100 UAVs).

[Beloemigrant]

Quote: DenVB

Wy czto, ne czitali Pokrovskogo i Oveczkina?

net. Ja Grafa Lwa Tolstoja Bunina i Dostojewskego predpoczitaju iz sowetskich czital Nowikowa- Priboja i Pikula beloemigranty tradicju uwazajut kaperangi w Imperatorskom WMF byli nowogo mne znat neobjazatelno

[DenVB]

Quote from: Beloemigrant

nowogo me znat neobjazatelno

Then zaczem sprashiwajete?

[Beloemigrant]

1. iz lubopytswa ne znaju= sprsziwaju na waproos otweczaetsa konkretno dodumalsa: takoje nazwane kakojto sowetskij pisatel pridumal interesno sam pridumal ili ot krasnoflotskich dembeli zaimstwowal my oba daleko ot temy odoszli

[DenVB]

Quote from: Beloemigrant

kakojto sowetskij pisatel pridumal interesno sam pridumal or ot krasnoflotskich dembeli zaimstwowal

Dva krasnoflotskich pisatelja, Pokrovskij i Oveczkin, buchali kak-to vmeste i pridumali slova kapraz, kap-dva i kap-tri.

[Beloemigrant]

Quote from Sebostyuan

When Akhmat's fighters entered Mariupol, they were given a unit with a UAV. Assessing the effect, the fighters reported to Kadyrov, and he, in turn, bought (according to some sources, 100 UAVs).

Kadyrow umnyj umnomu ucitsa nettrudno durakow uczeba utomlajet i rezultat otsustwujet

[Beloemigrant]

Quote from Gromit

figured out the drones

na Turkow w Karabache i Libii smotreliii i abezjaniczali a odkuda wy znajete szto nikakij russkij ne dodumalsa? tolko obronnyj budzet RF 8% takowego w USA itog nalico, dalnobojne RSZO USA z Ruskowo Smercza zabezjaniczali

[Beloemigrant]

amerikosy obidelis sto abezjanami zwu i minusujut a ja dumal szto nasajte WO russkije i im lestno budet Czitat szto USA abezjazniczajet Rosju w wojemnom iskustwe i technike u Rosjii oczen mnogo idei kotoroje zapad uwral or zaimstwoleja muralome radio laser kalasznikow esminec Nowik-germancy hudszyje analogi stroili russkije plocho sekretnost sobludali i russkije izobretenja k wrogom ppadaly

[Beloemigrant]

Quote: parusnik

m still AE Korneichuk in his play Front (1942) said.

ukrainskij nacjonalist
Kornejczuk to powaszemu ukrainskij von Klausewitz

[Beloemigrant]

Quote: ada

personnel training.

w obszczem wy prawy no isluczenja wozmozne osobo talantiwnym ludjam obuczenje niekrityczno ne meszajet no istinnyj wojennyj genij ne nuzdaetsa. Suworow Kutuzow i Jermolow Akademi Genstaba ne okonczyli to na ih dostizenjah kursanty obuczalis a uczenyje traktaty soczinjali Kuropatkin okonczil wozmozno z otliczem aw Mandzurii wse ubedilis on nul bez paloczki w dobawleje do systemy Wami opisanoj iskat talentow i ne utomlatichwojennoj sholastikoj ili strojewymi zanjatjami i jeszczo mnogo uma nado naczalstwu sztobyJermolowow naznaczat a kuropatkinow iz WS wyganjat wojennom sholastykom byl Dragomirow polzy z nego nikakokoj tolko wsjemu nowemu soznatelno meszal

[Beloemigrant]

Quote: DenVB

pridumali

spasiba za otwet tolko interesno eti psateli sami pridumali ili od rjadowych krasnoflotcow wzjali po.Po mojemu oni 2 raz izobretali welociped

[Petr_Koldunov]

Good logic. But only in tactics. Running after the devils in a chain one by one along the mountain paths and the current lowland field tactics, of course, are very different.
But gaining combat experience, constant expectation of an attack, speed in making decisions, "getting used" to a combat situation - these are no longer tactical nuances, but moral and psychological ones. And they are invaluable baggage, regardless of the peculiarities of the war in which this baggage was received.

[certero]

Quote: isv000

With their stupid position, they gave our army invaluable experience in modern warfare,

What is the experience of modern warfare? The fighting is carried out by some groups, even divisions are not used. In your opinion, hammering an artilleryman for days on a strong point is a modern war?

[DeGreen]

Tatar, of course, is still yap ... like Semyon Pegov, but here I agree with him.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Complete nonsense. Can we remember how many heroes of the commanders of the Second World War gave us Khalkhin-Gol, Belofinsky, etc.? Probably this blogger himself has a military education. Or will the construction of the RF Armed Forces now be based on the opinion of journalists and bloggers of all stripes? They only write about the urgent need to build Russian analogues of the Merkava and armored vehicles based on it, assault self-propelled guns with super-armor and guns under 152 mm (and also preferably a couple of 50 mm, a couple of UAVs for it). But the fact that our military successfully and firmly forget the experience and results of past wars is true.

[Antey]

The author writes that in the course of the battles for the Donbass, personnel are born who receive their own unique combat experience. They will become the basis for the formation of modern armed forces.

No, it won't! As before, fat and stupid careerists will lead. As always was in the "peacetime army". And young initiative and talented will be eternal captains. And if they borzet, then they will fly out of service. Where are our Strelkov?! Forms a modern armed forces?

[Altmann]

So this is exactly what needs to be done. New cadres, we old people cannot cope with computers, and young people can work miracles even in military affairs. I strongly believe in it.

[flicker]

Blogger and participant in the battles in the Donbass: SVO in Ukraine gives birth to new military geniuses for the Russian army

The headline is sensational.
What's in the text?

get their own unique combat experience.

That's right, each warrior gets their own unique experience.

They will become the basis for the formation of modern armed forces.

Right. But how should a "military genius" be born from this, and most importantly, what is this "military genius"?
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[komandir8]

Any combat experience is invaluable and it must be used in various armed conflicts in accordance with the current situation with the use of the latest military means, effective deception measures, unexpected tactical methods and methods of armed struggle that put the enemy in a difficult position and, as a result, completely defeat him. The NMD in Ukraine gives unique combat experience to commanders of all levels and personnel in operations against the large, well-armed, equipped and trained Ukrainian army with combat experience in positional defense, especially since NATO countries supply modern weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But even this experience will be only partially applicable to a different adversary, in a different situation and under different conditions.