Six questions to Sultan Erdogan

Remember Vysotsky:
“If a friend suddenly turned out to be not a friend, and not an enemy, but - so.
If you don't know right away if it's good or bad.
Pull the guy into the mountains, take a chance, don't leave him alone.
Let him be in one with you, there you will understand who he is.

This song is often remembered when we start talking about “friendly relations with some countries, for example, with Turkey and China. And not a friend, and not an enemy, but - so. I once quoted this to the Celestial Empire (The Chinese "ally" is neither a friend nor an enemy, but - so ). Now I'm quoting about the Turks.

Immediately after the start of the NWO, when the collective West began to impose sanctions against Russia, Turkey announced that it would not impose sanctions.

“In the issue of anti-Russian sanctions, Turkey will proceed from its economic benefits,”

- said the official representative of the President of Turkey Ibrahim Kalin.

And the benefit of not breaking off relations with the Russian Federation is direct for Turkey. The former Ottoman Empire today keeps the Great Turan project in mind and claims to be not just a regional, but in many ways an ideological moral leader - in territories many times larger than the lands of the Ottomans.

In this regard, I have only six questions for the leadership of Turkey, or rather, personally for Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who does not even hide his desire to acquire a status similar to that of a sultan.

Question one. Who does Turkish Stream work for?

Turkey receives gas via Turkish Stream. Having received this gas pipeline, Turkey has become a major gas hub. In 2018, in a May 21 Sberbank CIB report on Russian oil and gas companies, analysts Alexander Fek and Anna Kotelnikova concluded that Turkish Stream would cost Gazprom $50 billion and would not pay off even in XNUMX years.

They call the main beneficiaries of the project the contractors of Gazprom for the construction of export gas pipelines Stroygazmontazh Arkady Rotenberg and Stroytransneftegaz (about 50% belong to Gennady Timchenko and his family). After the appearance of this report, Alexander Fek and the head of the analytical division Alexander Kudrin were fired from the company.

However, no evidence was given that analysts had taken the price of the gas pipeline and its unprofitability out of thin air. As the saying goes, believe it or check it out. But the fact that the Turks receive our gas at a big discount is a fact.

According to Alexander Frolov, Deputy Director General of the National Energy Institute, Ankara bargained everything that was possible from Gazprom, and now it receives gas at a phenomenally low price. Moreover, Turkey has already decided that it can become an intermediary in the sale of Russian gas to the European Union (EU) countries if the direct purchase of fuel from the Russian Federation is banned. But selling, of course, will be many times more expensive than buying.

Question two. Why is Russia building a nuclear power plant in Turkey at its own expense?

The nuclear power plant will generate electricity for Turkey for 60 years. It is planned that it will provide 10 percent of Turkey's electricity needs. The station is worth $20 billion. The money is paid by Rosatom.

At one time, on the pages of the Military Review, it was very convincingly shown that this was very beneficial for Rosatom (How is the Russian atom sold?). To a large extent, because, having paid in advance, more precisely, lending to the customer, the nuclear corporation as a result has the opportunity to choose both the final financial terms of the transaction, and the necessary conditions and convenient terms for the implementation of the project.

And further. Many Turkish companies operate in Russia today: in the banking sector, light industry, construction, production of auto components and other sectors. On August 5, at a meeting in Sochi, Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan agreed to increase trade to $100 billion a year. And everything would be fine. But!

Question three. Is there really nothing personal in dealing with Bayraktars, and is it just business?

And it is an absolutely coincidence that the technical director and co-owner of Baykar Makina is the son-in-law of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Turkey is actively supplying Drones to Ukraine, despite the "friendship" with Russia.

Moreover, the Turkish company bought a plot in Ukraine for the construction of a plant for the production of Bayraktarov. The company intends to implement the project without fail, since

"it was almost a personal commitment of the company's owners to make this production in Ukraine",

- TASS quotes the Ambassador of Ukraine to Turkey, Bodnar.

Earlier, the CEO of the Turkish manufacturer of unmanned aerial vehicles Baikar Makina, Haluk Bayraktar, said that the company would not sell drones to Russia.

"We want to support Ukraine, support its sovereignty, support its resistance,"

- he said.

Question four. Why is Turkey constantly fueling the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh?

Long before the current events, back in 2020, there was direct and undeniable evidence of Turkey's participation in the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh by anyone and nowhere. Russia continues to oppose the escalation of tensions.

Yerevan claimed that it was the Turkish Air Force that shot down the Armenian Su-25 attack aircraft, which was at that moment in the airspace of its country, and later the entire control of the air operation of Azerbaijan in Karabakh was transferred to Ankara.

At the same time, The New York Times published a satellite image of the airport in Azerbaijan's Ganja, which showed two F-16 fighter jets. The planes are said to belong to the Turkish Air Force. Did it happen by chance too? It turns out that Azerbaijan is indeed a friend of Turkey.

Question five. Why do Turks behave in Adjara as on their own territory?

And not only - why does Ankara continue its soft political and economic expansion into "greater Georgia"?

Is this not a sign of impending Turkish interference in the internal affairs of Abkhazia and South Ossetia?

Question six. What prevented Turkey from the legitimate president of Syria?

The Syrian vector of Turkish foreign policy, as shown by the ongoing operation in the province of Idlib, is quite unambiguously aimed at contributing to the fall of legitimate power in Syria.

There are big doubts connected with this issue that Turkey really consistently adheres and will adhere to the tripartite agreements of Moscow - Tehran - Ankara regarding Syria.

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

In 2018, in a May 21 Sberbank CIB report on Russian oil and gas companies, analysts Alexander Fek and Anna Kotelnikova concluded that Turkish Stream would cost Gazprom $50 billion and would not pay off even in XNUMX years.

What was the gas price in 2018 and what is it now? Moreover, if the price has increased by 2 times, then the payback period has not decreased by 2 either. All additional profit goes to payback .... The rest is generally nonsense and snot, not worthy of attention.

[VicktorVR]

Support.
Kindergarten.
This is big politics and economics, everyone squeezes the maximum out of the situation.

[qQQQ]

Quote: VicktorVR

This is big politics and economics, everyone squeezes the maximum out of the situation.

I also do not understand the snot about the Sultan. There is an opportunity to profit from the situation, so why should he refuse it. Everyone works for their country, I would like to be sure that this is also true for our leadership.

[Tatyana]

I fully support the author!
I will only note one thing.
When building its "Great Turan" in the post-Soviet space, Erdogan's Turkey does not just support Ukraine - including with its construction of a joint Ukrainian-Turkish production of Bayraktar drones in Ukraine for Kyiv. Namely.

The nationalists of Turkey, as such, including the Turkish Islamo-Sunite confession, which has the widest distribution of supporters in the country and in the Turkish parliament, are dominated by their imperial Ottoman-revanchist views on the creation of the Great Turan, and in particular on the issue of returning the same Crimea is part of Turkey.

However, at the same time, for Turkey to regain Russian Crimea from its composition in the Russian Federation is much more difficult than to regain Ukrainian Crimea from Ukraine from the Russophobic Nazi regime in Kyiv, which is bankrupt at all seams.

Thus, for Erdogan himself and his family members in the same Ukraine, the production of Bayraktars in Ukraine is not just a Turkish business by business, but also a tactical proxy goal - the return of the Crimean peninsula to Turkey through Ukraine against Russia as a STRATEGIC rgevanshist-imperial Ottoman Turkey to create her "Great Turan"!

TOTAL. And the joint Ukrainian-Turkish production of Bayraktors by Erdogan's son-in-law, and the construction of a nuclear power plant in Turkey by Russia, and the Turkish Stream - all this in Turkey from under the floor is subordinated to the imperial-Ottomanist revenge of Turkey to create its own "New Turan"!

[Tatyana]

Erdogan and Turkey will achieve the realization of their imperial Turkish ambitions and not, but their actions in one way or another correspond to the preservation of the world domination of Jewish FINANCIAL capital in the face of the US Federal Reserve bankers to destroy nation states and empires of non-Jewish nationality and the dominance of the American dollar. Namely.

In fact, the Federal Reserve System (US Fed) is not a government agency, but is owned by private owners - a group of predominantly foreign bankers.
In 1913, the US Congress gave America into perpetual debt slavery to the private Federal Reserve System, giving it the power to print money and control the American economic system.
Although the names of bank owners are kept secret under the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, R.E. the following banks:
1. London and Berlin Rothschild Banks
2. Paris Bank Lazard Brothers
3. Italian banks Israel Moses Sieff
4. Hamburg Bank Warburg, Germany and Amsterdam
5. New York bank Kuhn Loeb (through his brother, who worked in this Bank, Trotsky received money for the 1917 coup d'état in Russia).
6. New York Bank Lehman Brothers
7. New York Bank Goldman Sachs
8. New York Bank Chase Manhattan (Rockefeller-controlled)

And the list of shareholders of the US Federal Reserve, compiled according to Swiss banking sources, looks as follows:
1. Rothschilds
2. Lazard Frerez (Eugene Mayer)
3. Israel siff
4. Kun Loeb Company
5. Warburg Company
6. Lehman Brothers
7. Goldman Sachs
8. Rockefeller and Morgan Families

[napalm]

Quote: Tatiana

Erdogan and Turkey will achieve the realization of their imperial Turkish ambitions and not, but their actions in one way or another correspond to the preservation of the world domination of Jewish FINANCIAL capital in the face of the US Federal Reserve bankers to destroy nation states and empires of non-Jewish nationality and the dominance of the American dollar. Namely.

In fact, the Federal Reserve System (US Fed) is not a government agency, but is owned by private owners - a group of predominantly foreign bankers.
In 1913, the US Congress gave America into perpetual debt slavery to the private Federal Reserve System, giving it the power to print money and control the American economic system.
Although the names of bank owners are kept secret under the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, R.E. the following banks:
1. London and Berlin Rothschild Banks
2. Paris Bank Lazard Brothers
3. Italian banks Israel Moses Sieff
4. Hamburg Bank Warburg, Germany and Amsterdam
5. New York bank Kuhn Loeb (through his brother, who worked in this Bank, Trotsky received money for the 1917 coup d'état in Russia).
6. New York Bank Lehman Brothers
7. New York Bank Goldman Sachs
8. New York Bank Chase Manhattan (Rockefeller-controlled)

And the list of shareholders of the US Federal Reserve, compiled according to Swiss banking sources, looks as follows:
1. Rothschilds
2. Lazard Frerez (Eugene Mayer)
3. Israel siff
4. Kun Loeb Company
5. Warburg Company
6. Lehman Brothers
7. Goldman Sachs
8. Rockefeller and Morgan Families

Nothing changes. Everything is the same on the arena. A hundred years.

[Ozark]

This is an absolute fact that hardly anyone knows about. Most Americans have never heard anything about this and are clueless about how it is destroying our country while causing problems everywhere else. There's also a book about how it happened.
https://www.hustleescape.com/book-summary-creature-from-jekyll-island-by-edward-griffin/

[Tatyana]

Quote from Ozark

This is an absolute fact that hardly anyone knows about. Most Americans have never heard anything about this and are clueless about how it is destroying our country while causing problems everywhere else. There's also a book about how it happened.

Translation from English

Quote from Ozark

This is an absolute fact that hardly anyone knows about. Most Americans have never heard of this and have no idea how it is destroying your country, causing problems everywhere. There is also a book about how it happened

Quote from Ozark

https://www.hustleescape.com/book-summary-creature-from-jekyll-island-by-edward-griffin/

Book by J. Edward Griffin. "The Creature from Jekyll Island"
In his book, J. Edward Griffin looks at the story behind what he calls "the most egregious scam in history." It is the Federal Reserve System. The Fed, established on Jekyll Island off the coast of Georgia in 1910 and passed by the US Congress in 1913, is responsible for implementing the United States' paper money policy.

[Edik]

Ozark (Robert) They may not know you there, but we are all aware of your federal reserve system! You have everything around there and it revolves for it! And your people don’t even know that it has nothing to do with the US state It has!

[Ozark]

Sadly, you're correct. Too many people are kept occupied with "bread and circuses", just like the Roman Empire. And now we're supporting a State that targets civilians in non combat areas without any condemnation? I'm embarrassed by our silence.

[Vyacheslav Ivasenko]

"Sultan" Erdogan is tormented to create his "Great Turan". Is it possible that Azerbaijan will be able to pull up to his slanderous idea. It must be assumed that Azerbaijanis are a young nation artificially created by the Bolsheviks when the USSR was created, and before that, the motley tribes living on the territory of modern Azerbaijan were called some Kzylbash, some Transcaucasian Tatars, the Talysh lived and live there and with more than a dozen different peoples, differing from each other in culture, and some even in languages, but all of them, by the will of the Bolsheviks, suddenly became Azerbaijanis. But due to their youth nation, lack of political literacy and lack of its own history, Azerbaijan may succumb to Erdogan's adventure and enter the "Great Turan". But there is still a serious pitfall of disagreement, this is religion. Turks are Sunni Muslims, Azerbaijanis are Shiite Muslims. And who else will enter the "Great Turan" "? There are no Kazakhs, even though this is a young nation, it began to form from the middle of the XNUMXth century, but according to the mood they don’t need Turans. the rest can be bought by selling the first. The Kyrgyz, although a small country, have their own more than a thousand-year history, they are a very proud freedom-loving people who have determined their future with Russia. Similarly, the Tajiks, who are not Turkic at all, but Iranian-speaking. Uzbeks remain. In relations with them, Erdogan needs to remember the story when the great Uzbek Emir Timur captured the Turkish Sultan Bayazed and kept him in a cage. Maybe Erdogan wants to repeat the fate of Bayazed?

[Vyacheslav Ivasenko]

You are most likely delirious. I use official historical sources. I don’t use Armenian telegram channels, I don’t know where they are, I haven’t been to Armenia, I don’t speak Armenian, I don’t have relatives and friends among Armenians. And yes, indeed, according to historical science, Armenians have an ancient history. They were the first to adopt Christianity as a state religion in 413 AD, much earlier than other states. Are you a nationalist?

[Boxer]

No, if it makes you feel better, I'm not a nationalist. If you follow the sources, the ancient history is not among the Armenians, but among their conquerors, thanks to whom the Assyro-Akkadian region became famous with the Semitic name Arminua (Armina) obtained from the Arameo-Assyrians, and not the Armenians. The ancestors of the Armenians - khai (the self-name of the Armenians) came there much later and assigned the name of the region as an ethnonym. Consider, Siberians or Urals have suddenly become ethnic groups or peoples.
By the way, the Parthian enslavers of the Armenians Arshakids adopted Christianity from their own relative Gregory (from the same dynasty) who arrived from Iran (from the region of Sakastan), and who had a very vague idea about the Armenians (rather their ancestors). Read Publius Tacitus, Annals. Chapter 50 and 2. Tacitus writes how Tiridates Arsacides got the conquered region of Armenia as a consolation prize, in exchange for Tiridates the 1st's refusal of claims to Parthia in favor of his elder brother Vologez Arsacides.
Parthia was the pivotal, maternal kingdom of the Parthian state, which consisted of 18 kingdoms. Among them were Parthia itself - the kingdom of paramount importance, Media or Atropatena (Azerbaijan) - the kingdom of the second level of power, and only after it came Iberia (Georgia) and Armenia in order of importance as the kingdoms of the third stage of dominion, and so on. These "kingdoms" exactly corresponded to the administrative borders of the Persian provinces of the satrapies (later marzpans under the Sassanids). Well, what kind of life did the Armenians have?)) Early feudal state, slave-owning system) Who asked the opinions of the conquered natives?
The German historian T. Mommsen, who received the Nobel Prize for this book, The History of Rome, wrote about the Parthian empire, which consisted of 18 kingdoms.
Read: T. Mommsen HISTORY OF ROME BOOK EIGHT Countries and peoples from Caesar to Diocletian. Chapter IX. BORDER ON THE EUPHRATS AND THE PARTHIANS http://ancientrome.ru/publik/article.htm?a=1524157272

[Vyacheslav Ivasenko]

There are many letters and references, I am familiar with many, and the history teachers at the University and at the academy were professionals, all candidates and doctors of science, this is by the way. And your statement is not new and you are not the first to express it, saying that the ancient Armenians with their civilization and statehood, they have nothing to do with today's Armenia and Armenians, it was a completely different people, the same applies to the ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Mongols, even some people decided to spit against the Uzbeks, that they say Emir Timur has nothing to do with the Uzbeks. But historical facts and genetics say otherwise. But let's get back to the ethnogenesis of some modern peoples, I wrote about Azerbaijanis. "Ukrainians"? But I'll tell you more that, just like Azerbaijanis, Ukrainians and Kazakhs, these are artificial names for various nationalities living in these territories, which the Bolsheviks gave them. With regards to the Kazakhs. In the 20s of the last century of the USSR, there was no such name at all. The motley tribes that roamed the territory of modern Kazakhstan were called Kirghiz-Kaisaks, they were divided into zhuzes (senior, middle, junior), and zhuzes, in turn, into genera.More When the Soviet republics were created, the Kirghiz Autonomous Soviet Republic was created as part of the RSFSR, which includes the territories of present-day Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan. Then these republics were divided and they were autonomous within the RSFSR and in 1933. acquired the status of allies, becoming the Kirg. SSR and Kaz. SSR. But what was the name of the indigenous population of this huge Kaz. SSR, they are far from being Kyrgyz? The authorities thought about it and called them Cossacks, but were there already Russian Cossacks of the Orenbur and Siberian Cossack troops there? Then they were given a name by the Kazakhs, by the name of one of the small, seedy tribes (clans), which in Turkic means a free rider or the same ulaloy horseman. By the way, in the modern Kazakh language, the word Kazakh sounds like a Cossack with a deaf "k" at the end. I I focus on the Kazakhs because they, like the Ukrainians and Azerbaijanis, for not having their own ancient history, after the collapse of the USSR and gaining independence, come up with their own. The Kazakhs agreed that they are descendants of Genghis Khan, and some are descendants of the Scythians.

[Boxer]

Everything is known in comparison, 243 of my words against 293 of yours. Count yourself. In general, you have a clear tendency to speak in cliches, worn out memes: “a lot of letters”, etc.
What kind of statehood or civilization is Armenian, I’m telling you the rhetoric and style inherent in Armenian nationalist forums. When you ask them the question that the Greeks, Romans, and other ancient peoples left a material and cultural trace. And where are the Armenian Aeschylus, Homers, Phidias, Praxiteles, Aristophanes, Euclids, Democrites, Aristotle, Plato, Plutarch, Archimedes, Petronius, Virgil, Cicero, Gracchi, Firdousi, Rustaveli, Nasimi, Fizuli, Mehseti Ganjavi, etc.? Armenian mountain gave birth to a mouse in 2000 years?) Where and how did they spend all these 2000 years? I have a guess) Well, the early feudal society, the slave system. In general, the Armenians did not travel in business class all the way, not to the Iliad, Aeneid, Acropolis, geometries, the Coliseums and the Maiden Towers, they were different, they would have dealt with the owners)
By the way, you are fervently telling us about some kind of civilization of the Armenians, we saw it in Karabakh, stone upon stone, no tree was left in the occupied Azerbaijani territories in the past.
In short, you can name the famous Armenian poet and philosopher of the 13th-14th centuries. or any other of the peoples of the present CIS? And I can even read the lines in Azerbaijani (and in Russian translation) of the poems of a medieval Azerbaijani poet and philosopher-mystic)
And what about Kazakhstan? It's a different story, they had their own way. The Kazakhs do not need my protection. But for the sake of objectivity, it would not hurt you to move away from Limonovism a little (the ideas of pseudo-revolutionaries - passive gays (lovers of huge blacks) always seemed unpromising to me, I'm so boring)). In a word, read about the Kazakh part of the great Golden Horde (the legacy of Genigis Khan), also about the Kazakh Genghisides: Tore (descendants of the khans Kerey and Zhanibek), Arguns, etc.

[Romanovski]

And why did you stick to the history of Armenia with your subjective and clearly pro-Turkish views and propaganda cliches ??? You should not here excitedly quote excerpts from the half-deceitful WIKIPEDIA ALREADY BANNY in the Russian Federation, and also you should not quote here too informed unfortunate "historians" paid by Baku petrodollars and black caviar. How many scandals have there been in Europe when the FACTS of bribery of journalists became public, MEPs?? ? Or will you deny this scandalous fact???
The Great History of Armenia does not at all need your purely fake comments ... Here, apart from all those who are still sitting on the armored train - - smart and well-read people since the days of the USSR also come and read ... By the way, if you are so well "read and informed" about the history of Armenia, then can you tell us the ignorant and uninformed about - WHEN AND WHERE WE APPEARED IN ASIA MINOR AND ON THE TERR. OF THE CURRENT AZERB. TURKISH SELJUKI AND THEIR RELATIVES CAUCASIAN TATARS (Azerbaijanis) ??? If you "forget" to answer, then I will answer you: THE SELJUK TURKS MOVED TO ASIA MINOR FROM CENTRAL ASIA THROUGH THE NORTH OF IRAN ABOUT 600 YEARS AGO AND IN 1453, FINALLY FROM THE 4TH ATTEMPT, CAPTURED CONSTANTINOPOLE (Istanbul ...) and sank this beautiful the city is in blood, and also began to purposefully destroy the Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians and Kurds in Asia Minor and in EASTERN ANATOLY IN PARTICULAR ....

[Boxer]

Great story of what?)) You know, Comrade. Stalin is a famous phrase about your general megalomania: "Comrade Stalin does not like the boasting of Armenians in history (he generally notes this quality in them, and explains this by the fact that history has never spoiled, Armenians have painful historicism)"
Details: https://regnum.ru/news/innovatio/2685886.html

And in general, what is your life like, as the unforgettable tsar-father Ivan Vasilyevich said?) The Armenian chronicler Arakel Davrizhetsi wrote back in the XNUMXth century: “The Armenian people blinded themselves with their fingers, because with their unbridled and rebelliousness they ruined their kingdom, they began to trample it feet, he became a slave and a prisoner of other tribes and kings; and when some trouble overtook him, when, finding himself in a hopeless situation, he did not see help from anywhere, he became a refugee and scattered in different directions.
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[Boxer]

The Seljuk Turks in this region, i.e. in Iran (adjacent to the eastern provinces of the Byzantine Empire) since the 10th century (not even counting the Karakhanids), starting with the Ghaznavids. And already in the 11th century. Seljuk Turks in Asia Minor. Just wondering, is this not enough from the 11th century?))
Starting with the victory of the Seljuks in the battle of Manzikert (Anatolia) in 1071, which ended with the capture of the emperor of Byzantium Roman IV Diogenes, the Turks managed to conquer most of the Asia Minor possessions of the Byzantine Empire. And this is being in a 3-fold minority compared to the army of Byzantium. By the way, the Seljuks managed to take the city of Vagharshapat - the center of the Byzantine province of Armenia already in 1026. I almost forgot, according to the European chroniclers of that time, it was the Armenians who had the somewhat dubious honor of calling the Seljuks to Asia Minor against the Byzantines - the oppressors of the Armenians, as it turned out)
. “Ekkehard of Aura pointed out that during the time of the Constantinopolitan Emperor Alexei there were skirmishes between Greeks and Armenians. Weaker Armenians called to themselves AGAINST THE GREEKS from Persia neighboring warriors. The hordes of these pagans came from Khorasan, which was densely populated. Four sultans ruled here. They scattered throughout Armenia, as well as Cappadocia, Romania, Syria. They captured Nicaea, one of the strongest fortresses, and elected the tyrant Soliman. Turning to Constantinople, he pointed out that neither the crowds of Warings, Turkopols, Pechenegs, nor many ships protected them. Antioch, all Syria and Palestine submitted to the Turks.
Source: https://realnoevremya.ru/articles/126114-yaroslav-pilipchuk-ob-oguzah-i-turkah-seldzhukah-ch-11

[Boxer]

You have big gaps in education, dissonant with your disproportionate arrogance, in a marvelous mixture with a slight touch of a somewhat provincial Black Hundreds, by the way. One comment will not fill it all. However... Read about the powerful Azerbaijani state of the 12th century. "Atabekan Azerbaijan" with the first capital in Barda, well, at least here: https://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/616943
Read about the states of Karakoyunlu, Safavids, etc. History is an objective reality, and not a subject of pretentious pride (I emphasize, pretentious) or manipulation. Well, it was, and so it was, and in every way. What is the point now to fiddle with it furiously or, like Armenians, to make "great" Armenian rulers out of Persians and Parthians, and most importantly, to extrapolate these fakes to today and demand that today's realities be brought into line with the situation under the Parthian (Persian) rulers of the province of Armenia)) .
Armenian scientists themselves admit, Ronald Grigor Syuni in his works cites the following theses:
« ARMENIAN NATIONAL IDENTITY IS A bluff . Today's Armenians are not genetically related to ancient Armenians. Before the Russian annexation, the Armenians did not have schools, and even in the XNUMXth century, the Armenian language was a collection of incomprehensible dialects.
Ronald Grigor Suny: "Looking Towards Ararat: Armenia in Modern History", 1993, pp 4-5.

[Vyacheslav Ivasenko]

I am far from being a patriot of Armenia, but for the sake of objectivity, I could also list several dozen Armenian names that have entered world history from ancient times, the Middle Ages and modern history. But I didn’t hire you as a history teacher, Google will help you. a completely different story, its mention by you is not appropriate here or, as they say now, is incorrect. There were barbaric acts on both sides, which I witnessed when it was just beginning and I, being still a senior lieutenant, in the The USSR Armed Forces was sent to that region. Only a few Kazakh clans have Mongolian roots. This happened as a result of partial mixing of the Mongols conquerors with the local population. differences at the gene level. Indeed, the sultans Kerey and Zhanibek, who later became khans, were Genghisides, but in those days, on the conquered by the Mongols t territories, only Genghisides had the right to wear the title of khan. And after the collapse of the empire of Genghis Khan, and subsequently the Golden Horde and in other newly formed states, only Genghisides had the right to wear the title of khan there. Even the leaders of the Mughal empire were Genghisides. From the very first lines in my the address began to use such words as "nonsense". Now, without knowing me, give me a description, i.e. go to the person. This is a well-known trick of demagogues, for not having arguments, go to the person. I advise you to reduce your arrogance and not flaunt your "deep" knowledge of history with links pulled out of Wikipedia. I consider further polemics with you pointless. I will not answer your opuses Let me take a bow for this.

[Boxer]

Excuse me, what arrogance do I have?) I do not pretend to anything, incl. and that I represent the ultimate truth) There is a point of view, but like everyone else, like you, I can be wrong. If suddenly I was incorrect in my statements, I apologize, I did not mean to offend. I'm not that kind of person and I know how to admit I was wrong if I was harsh. It is impossible to go beyond the scope of polemics. Nevertheless, I was glad to read your point of view, why not?)

[Vyacheslav Ivasenko]

And this is accepted. Perhaps I was too harsh in my answers, I beg your pardon. I am not a professional historian, my profession is different. And at the academy, I wrote essays and made reports. There was even a question about leaving me at the department of history as a junior researcher, the topic of my Ph.D. thesis was selected. But the Motherland decided differently, the order and I returned to the troops. 30 retired, in the status of a military pensioner. There is time, so he returned to his old hobby. Good luck to you.

[Boxer]

Thanks, you too.

[Romanovski]

What do you allow yourself? It was the Armenians who did not have a written language until 1828, when Eastern Armenia, together with Artsakh (Karabakh), became part of Russia?!?! By the way, the Azerbaijani-Turkish propaganda likes to remember that before 1806 (the year Artsakh joined Russia ...) there were khanates on the territory of Eastern Armenia, BUT FOR WHY THEY FORGET to emphasize that these khanstaas WERE PART OF PERSIA, NOT TURKEY AND AZERBAIJAN AS A STATE THEN DID NOT EXIST IN NATURE .... And Russia conquered EASTERN ARMENIA from the Shah of Persia, and not from Ottoman Turkey. The question is - why such "forgetfulness" among Azerbaijanis. propaganda??? Almost 30 (!) States of the world recognized the Armenian Genocide in 1915, and from the Azerbaijani-Turkish propaganda - like water off a duck's back, i.e. - IN THEIR OPINION THERE WAS NO ARMENIAN GENOCIDE AND THE POINT ... Even though it cracked, but it wasn’t all here ... Turks are white, fluffy and saints and could not in any way MASSIVELY kill UNARMED PEACEFUL ARMENIANS and this is all - "fairy tales" of Armenians ...

[Romanovski]

ARMENIAN NATIONAL IDENTITY IS A BLUFF. Today's Armenians are not genetically related to ancient Armenians. Before the Russian annexation, the Armenians did not have schools, and even in the XNUMXth century, the Armenian language was a collection of incomprehensible dialects.
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How are you not ashamed to lie?

[Boxer]

Dear, why should I be ashamed? There is a wonderful Russian proverb: "There is nothing to blame on the mirror, if ...", well, you know further). Your laziness (you can also look at the original source), coupled with inertia, results in incredible obstinacy. Yes, all this would be good deeds. The stage of awareness has not been passed))
Here is the work of the venerable R. Suny. It seems that the farther the Armenians are from a historical family mired in provincial inert nationalism, the more objective they are.
So, I ask you to love and favor: Ronald Grigor Suny is an American historian of Armenian origin, emeritus professor of history at the department of Michigan and Chicago universities, director of the Eisenberg Institute for Historical Research.
I wanted to place links to pages, but I thought, you should do something yourself?)
Source: https://vdoc.pub/documents/looking-toward-ararat-armenia-in-modern-history-553hdo8jkna0
1. The first to go is an interesting statement by R. Suny:
Karabagh had been in ancient and medieval times part of the kingdom of the Caucasian Albanians. Translation: Karabakh was part of the kingdom of the CAUCASUS ALBANS in ancient and Middle Ages.

Then we return to the statement of R. Suny I quoted earlier:
2. Modern Armenians trace their origins back to this ancient ethnogenesis. Perhaps there are genetic connections between this ancient people and some today living in Soviet Armenia, but having lived in a region of volatile East-West migrations, invasions, conquests, and brutal exterminations, modern Armenians are more the product of ethnic intermingling. (Summary: Armenians have no genetic connection with the ancient Armenians, they are the product of ethnic mixing as a result of conquests, invasions, migrations, enslavement and other unpleasant events.
3. "In no sense should ancient Armenia be seen as approaching a nation-state in the modern sense". Translation: In no sense should ancient Armenia be regarded as even APPROXIMATELY a nation-state in the modern sense.
4. Is this historic people defined by its ancient language, which many who call themselves Armenians can no longer use…(summary: ancient language could not be used by Armenians)
5. By the eighteenth century many Armenians had very little left of their national culture, except for a language reduced to mutually incomprehensible dialects and mixed with vocabulary borrowed from the dominant nationality. Their re!iqion was mixed with superstition and borrowings from pagan practice, and their church was notoriously corrupt.
Summary: By the 18th century, very little of the Armenian national culture remained, with the exception of the language - consisting of several mutually incomprehensible dialects and with a vocabulary borrowed from the dominant peoples (ie, in this case, from the Azerbaijanis). By this time their (Armenian) religion was more superstitious and pagan, and the church was incredibly corrupt.
Yeah...

[Romanovski]

Bravo ... The more monstrous the lie, the more willingly the crowd swallows this lie ... We must still pay tribute to the Azerbaijani-Turkish propaganda, which got its hand in falsifying history and appropriating the cultural achievements of the peoples of Asia Minor .... Bravo again!

[Boxer]

Thanks, I knew you'd like it. I am not a propagandist (I don’t have such ambitions) and I’m not even a historian, just by the will of fate a very early young pensioner, modest, without any special claims and who, unfortunately, has nothing to do. Moderately educated, just methodical (professional quality in the recent past), rather meticulous and endowed with a hypertrophied sense of justice (not appreciated by Armenian users of topwar), as well as some sense of humor (blackish). Always at your service in highlighting the dark sides of the history and even the economy of Armenia. I remain with respect.

[ramzay21]

There are no questions for Erdogan, all these questions are for those who govern our state. How did our country, having everything, come to the point where it allowed the Turks to do this? And there are answers

1. Turkish Stream. Instead of the Turkish stream, it was necessary to build an LNG plant in the Novorossiysk region and berths. And start building LNG tankers in the Kerch Gulf, simultaneously modernizing it and building additional docks. The money donated to the Turkish Stream would be more than enough, and there would still be left for the construction of two or three hundred gas carriers.

2. Nuclear power plant in Bushehr. Instead of building a nuclear power plant in Bushehr, it would be possible to build a nuclear power plant in the Krasnodar Territory, solving the problem with the power supply of the Crimea, and the gas that was used to generate electricity could be sold for at least 50 years.
In addition, with the remaining money, adding what was left of the Turkish Stream, it would be possible to build nuclear power plants in the region of Novosibirsk and Krasnoyarsk, reducing the number of thermal power plants there, which is especially important for Krasnoyarsk, choking in smoke.

3 Deliveries of Bayraktars to Ukraine. Erdogan is fueling the conflict in Ukraine only so that Russia does not unite with Ukraine and become a superpower that can nip any Turans in the bud.
Again, all this could have been done under Yanukovych, if the money that was spent on Ukraine was spent wisely, and a structure was created that included NGOs, student exchanges, support for pro-Russian politicians, entrepreneurs and people, control over their education, as well as a powerful opposition to Western NGOs, oligarchies and a ban on any cooperation with those who are against Russia. But they appointed Zurabov as ambassador to Ukraine, who supported and financed the Maidan and supporters of Bendera, including from our state budget.

4 Nagorno-Karabakh. There, Turkey solves two problems, this is the strengthening of cooperation with Azerbaijan and the weakening of Russia in this region, which it does well with the complete inaction of our leadership.
Here, systematic work is needed to oust Turkey and Azerbaijan from our market and, first of all, take the largest vegetable market in Russia from the Azerbaijanis, replacing it primarily with domestic vegetables and fruits and products of friendly countries, using the supply of vegetables and fruits to our market as a powerful lever. By cutting off the flow of income from vegetables and fruits from Azerbaijan and Turkey, we will reduce their income and create dissatisfaction with the policies of their country, while declaring friendship with Azerbaijan.

5. Adjara. Because the Georgians and we allow them. Now the task of our country is to do so. to make Abkhazia want to become part of Russia is not such a difficult job, especially since we pay pensions there and support their country, while we need to act decisively and quickly, simultaneously opposing the Turks. If Abkhazia is annexed to Russia, it would be possible to build a resort area there with many huge hotels and solve two problems, replace Turkish resorts, knocking out huge incomes from the Turks and increase our incomes, including those who will supply food there and dilute the local population , making it completely pro-Russian.
In addition, a huge resort area will allow starting systemic actions to create a pro-Russian Georgia, with the subsequent squeezing out of Turkey and joining Russia in the future.

6. Syria. The Turks solve three problems here. Firstly, this is the restoration of the Ottoman Empire, with the support of the pro-Turkish inhabitants of Syria and the taking control of the Kurds. Secondly, it is oil, which Turkey does not have. And thirdly, this is again the weakening of Russia.
Here we are doing everything right. We must support the enemies of the Turks in order to weaken Turkey itself.

[Mavrikiy]

Fak Alex (born 1981) is an American and Russian investment analyst. In 1992 he moved with his parents to Cleveland, USA. In 1999 he graduated from high school in St. Louis, Missouri (Parkway North High School).

After the appearance of this report, Alexander Fek was fired from the company.

And what, did we need to feed this scum? The American says that we are profitable ....

[Eug]

But what if his reports are objective and reveal anti-state interests and those who stand behind them?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Eug

But what if his reports are objective and reveal anti-state interests and those who stand behind them?

Will you use Hitler's recommendations? USA is a collective Hitler.

[ramzay21]

Will you use Hitler's recommendations? USA - Collective Hitler

Internal enemies, especially those in power, are much worse than external ones, and Gorbachev and Yeltsin, who did what Hitler could not do, are an excellent example and the answer to the question of who is worse than Hitler or Yeltsin is obvious to me.

And hence the obvious question to the authorities in general and Gazprom in particular.

Why was it necessary to build Nord Stream, TurkStream and Nord Stream-2, and not gas pipelines to Murmansk, Kaliningrad and Novorossiysk, with the construction of LNG plants and berthing complexes for gas carriers in these cities?

In the version with the pipe, ONLY the contractors of these gas pipelines won, the state budget spent the money, they were built by foreigners, they are controlled by Germany and Turkey.
If LNG were built, then we would build the plants, creating tens of thousands of jobs, and we would also control them. Our government spent more than $2 billion on SP-50 alone, which could have been used to order 500 gas carriers at our shipyards and create hundreds of thousands of jobs in our country for decades to come.
And if we had LNG now, we would not have danced to the tune of Germany and Turkey and would not have lost hundreds of billions of dollars, but would have transported gas not to Europe, but to India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka, or to Europe, but on our terms.

[Essex62]

Quote: Eug

But what if his reports are objective and reveal anti-state interests and those who stand behind them?

This is the question, who should be considered a state? Have you carefully read the names of the beneficiaries? Here they are. Their interests cannot be anti-state. Amen

[andrewkor]

"Sultan" works for the benefit of Turkey, by and large. Well, he does not forget himself, his beloved. Russia would be so concerned about its interests in the fragments of the USSR. Here in Uzbekistan, the Turks are not allowed to turn around much.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Turks do what is profitable. And the sale of Bayraktars, perhaps, in addition to profit, is a nod to NATO and the EU. Like, yes, we are not imposing sanctions against Russia, but we are helping Ukraine, right?
How did Assad prevent the Turks? Perhaps its independent policy. It is impossible to make a Turkish puppet out of him.

[Snail N9]

The question is not posed correctly: it is not Assad that is hindering Turkey, but Syria itself is hindering him. The Turks claim about a third of the territory of Syria, considering them their legitimate lands.

[Eug]

As already got these words about "friendship", especially in international relations .. It has long been clear to everyone who is interested that there is no "friendship" in the Soviet sense of the term, there are INTERESTS and SITUATIONAL COOPERATION ... and nothing more. You need to learn from the Angles, and now from the Turks!

[sniperino]

Quote: Eug

How did you get these words about "friendship"

You can already switch to the metaphor of love: "Oh, Erdogan does not love us! If he loved us, he gave gifts, he would divorce NATO, he defended Russia in the UN"

[man]

You can already switch to the metaphor of love: "Oh, Erdogan does not love us! If he loved us, he gave gifts, he would divorce NATO, he defended Russia in the UN"
I will continue: I would join the CSTO, I would place a Russian base in Incirlik, I would convert to Orthodoxy ...

[sniperino]

Quote: mann

would convert to Orthodoxy

Aha! He also needs to take Russian citizenship and attach a round white badge to the lapel of his jacket with the inscription "Putin is my president!" Then we will accept Turkey in the CSTO.

[man]

Aha! He also needs to take Russian citizenship and attach a round white badge to the lapel of his jacket with the inscription "Putin is my president!" Then we will accept Turkey in the CSTO.
No it's too much Then Turkey will certainly be expelled from NATO, and this is not beneficial for us at the moment

[sniperino]

Quote: mann

No it's too much

He must somehow convince the incredulous authors and commentators on VO of his deep love for them and selfless devotion to Russia. Let then at least learn the Russian language and make it the state language in Turkey. Otherwise, they will not believe that Erdogan understands well what is beneficial for Turkey, who wants to bend him and why.

[man]

He must somehow convince the incredulous authors and commentators on VO of his deep love for them and selfless devotion to Russia. Let then at least learn the Russian language and make it the state language in Turkey. Otherwise, they will not believe that Erdogan understands well what is beneficial for Turkey, who wants to bend him and why.
"We have no permanent allies, we have no eternal enemies. Only our interests are unchanging and eternal, and our duty is to follow them." The wise man was this Englishman

[Popenko]

Since the time of the Russian Empire, we have been learning from the Angles, Amers, Chinese, etc., but there is no knowledge above the "two" (our rulers, mostly).

[nikvic46]

It’s time to ask such questions to a CSTO member, and not a NATO member, whose army is 500000 people. Erdogan sees the strengths and weaknesses of our country. And if Turkey makes any concessions, this will be done in order to knock out more American help. Great game and nothing more.

[Uncle AU]

Erdogan seeks to keep Zelensky and his Nazi regime in Ukraine and Ukraine as a state in the anti-Russia project. That's why he comes up with different tricks.
how to conduct negotiations like a mass entertainer. His efforts have already backfired on us Bucha.
Erdonan has his own interest in Crimea, he sleeps and sees it as Turkish. At the moment, Turkey is like a fellow traveler, in this period of time our interests partially coincided, but Erdogan does not, and he uses us in his thoughts to help Russia in his own interests.
We do not need Ukraine as a state, this will be a huge problem in the future, Ukraine should become part of Russia by regions. And no negotiations.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Uncle AU

We do not need Ukraine as a state, this will be a huge problem in the future, Ukraine should become part of Russia by regions. And no negotiations.

I'm afraid that the Kremlin does not share this point of view .... Ukraine will most likely lose some part of the territory (according to the results of referendums in the south of the country), but the central and western parts will remain. Ours are just waiting until Zelensky and the team are ripe for negotiations, and there will already be bargaining .... otherwise, why even negotiate with them (in the same Istanbul) + ours throughout the NWO say that they are ready to negotiations, but the other side is not, and apparently because of these considerations there are no strikes on decision-making centers in Ukraine (and there is someone to beat ... the president, the National Security and Defense Council, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, etc.)

And I agree about Turkey ... Erdogan definitely needs Ukraine as a market for his goods + you can buy resources cheaply (grain, metals, fertilizers, wood ...) then process them in Turkey and deliver the finished products back, with a wrap :) + anti-Russia is very beneficial for Turkey, diverting our attention/resources and holding us back in other directions... so Turkey will do everything possible to make the conflict drag on for as long as possible, and so that we suffer the greatest losses and costs.

[man]

Turkey will do everything possible to make the conflict last as long as possible, and so that we suffer the greatest losses and costs.
You, for an hour, did not confuse Turkey with the United States?

[gromit]

And what prevents Turkey from the war between the Russian Federation and Ukraine? Slavic fools kill each other, and even sponsor the Turkish economy. In addition to the Russian Federation, Ukraine and part of the EU, what is happening generally suits everyone.
Yes, and about these, too, there are doubts.
In the Russian Federation, you can finally burn out all the opposition to the root and swear allegiance to the king. Ukrainians can build an openly Nazi regime, without looking back and curtseying.
Everyone is happy.

[man]

And what prevents Turkey from the war between the Russian Federation and Ukraine? Slavic fools kill each other, and even sponsor the Turkish economy. In addition to the Russian Federation, Ukraine and part of the EU, what is happening generally suits everyone.
Erdogan benefits from anti-Russian sanctions, the tougher they are, the greater the Russian-Turkish trade turnover, and not the war. And the point is not only that it destroys potential tourists. vassal of the United States and Turkey has lost its exclusive position as a "affectionate calf." And he will successfully sell his drones to the remnants of Ukraine.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: mann

You, for an hour, did not confuse Turkey with the United States?

No. Turkey is interested in weakening Russia no less than the United States (they just have different goals), because it is Russia that hinders Turkey's influence in Central Asia, in the construction of the Great Turan. Well, and also China, but he is more concerned about his trade interests and the preservation of his investments ....

And behind this project and Turkey - Great Britain + some US elites who thus want to weaken the influence of Russia and China in the region, this is a classic, they create regional alliances / associations against their opponents (Quad / AUKUS - against China), against Russia - NATO (with an emphasis on the Baltics and Ukraine, which are cannon fodder), and in the Caucasus / Central Asia - Turkey as a key counterbalance to us ...

Of course, Russia and Turkey have their own relations, but there is no need to harbor illusions on this matter, no matter how close Erdogan’s relations with GDP are, Turkey is a NATO member and it is waging a proxy war against us in Syria, in Nagorno-Karabakh (after all, Russia is losing influence to Azerbaijan - Armenia, and Turkey, together with NATO, is increasing), in Ukraine (Bayraktars are there for a reason, instructors, etc. ... this is not just a business, this is a targeted policy).

[man]

Turkey is interested in weakening Russia no less than the United States (they just have different goals), because it is Russia that hinders Turkey's influence in Central Asia, in the construction of the Great Turan.
"Great Turan" is a fake topic intended both for intra-Turkish use and for receiving economic dividends from the Turks who have raw materials

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: mann

"Great Turan" is a fake topic intended both for intra-Turkish use and for receiving economic dividends from the Turks who have raw materials

Fake is not fake, but Turkey's influence in the region is growing .... if China starts a military operation against Taiwan, then the West will impose sanctions (like us), and it is far from a fact that the countries of the region (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Azerbaijan and etc.) will not begin to curtail their trade with China, but with whom to trade? Only Turkey remains as a key player in the region, which has normal relations with the West and which has cultural/ideological/religious ties with the countries of the region.

Recently, for example, there was an aggravation (or a provocation, to be more precise) in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, just before Erdogan's visit to Russia .... what does this mean? About the fact that Turkey shows who is in charge, and that if the conflict goes into a hot phase, our peacekeepers will not be able to stop the conflict ..... it will be necessary to bring in a full-fledged grouping of the RF Armed Forces, but do we now have such forces? That's it.

Azerbaijan is completely under Turkey (almost the entire elite), Armenia has also set a course for normalizing relations with Turkey. they are the guarantee of peace in the region. And for us, this is a wake-up call...

I'm not talking about possible Turkish military bases in Azerbaijan (consider NATO bases), where they will become the eyes and ears of the alliance. Therefore, there should be no illusions .... Turkey is not just kept in NATO, it plays its role and therefore it is allowed a lot.

[Nastia makarova]

the greenery will immediately be thrown off as soon as he talks about the world

[Yulian]

If a friend suddenly turned out to be not a friend, and not an enemy, but - so.

Not a-so, but the enemy! Turkey will always be an enemy of Russia and will never forgive that the Russian Empire knocked out the Ottoman Empire from the Crimea and the Balkans and I don’t know why they are in white on the map. And why did the author forget the public execution of the Russian ambassador in Turkey as retaliation for the return of Alep to Syria and about the downing of two planes and a helicopter. So the score is 4:0 in favor of Turkey, think about it and don't hold your tongue about Turkey.

[Emergency]

It seems, gentlemen, that this article is from a chain of attempts to punish the Turks for cooperating with Russia. It is not for nothing that the EU and the USA are pissing with boiling water from this.

[igorra]

Both Turkey and China are just fellow travelers on our way. We have a concept of friendship - to be friends to the breaking of the soul, because this is a friend. It's time to understand - they are not Russian. In the comprehensive sense of the word. They are different, a Turk or a Chinese will not give his life for a Russian. Tatar or Tuvinian, Belarusian or Kazakh, yes, like the Russians for them, these are not. Therefore, such friends, for one place and to the museum. And so, comrades, we are on the right path, it would be better to put things in order with the fifth column, and the traders inside.

[parusnik]

Why do Turks behave in Adjara as if they were on their own territory?

And that Georgia is the sphere of influence of Russia? No. Another interesting question is why Russia does not behave in Abkhazia as if it were its own territory? And Turkish business is slowly penetrating there and the local authorities do not put obstacles in it, unlike the Russian one. Turkey takes advantage of the situation and extracts all the "good things" for itself and does not care about morality, first of all, its own benefit.

[ratoborets]

Erdogan thinks only about the interests of Turkey and his own, he does not care about the interests of Russia, Ukraine, the USA-NATO, and he makes curtsies towards one or the other only on the basis of "it is beneficial for me (Erdogan-Turkey) or not."

It's time for ours to take an example from the Turks and Erdogan. As an example, an attempted coup in Kazakhstan and how our people rushed to help, and how Tokayev then paid back and continues to pay. And it was necessary to make an offer instead of help:
"Need help, brother Tokaev? It's not a question, Russia's military assistance in case of emergency (not necessarily infantry, it can be resources) or a 20% stake in mining companies in Kazakhstan."

We, as always, are fraternal, friendly, without calculation, and then as a result, a knife in the back or, at best, a spit in the face.

[faterdom]

It is in NATO that no one is a friend to anyone - partners, and even deceived by the 5th article, I think it is not slippery or slippery.
And we just need to take off the rose-colored "I was deceived" glasses.
A neighbor cannot be equal to a family member, even if he is a good neighbor, and a family member is not so good.
And Erdogan did a good job, having very poor cards at the beginning of his reign, and for how many years he should have been overthrown - and he strengthened his personal influence, and the country gets all the fish out of troubled waters.
Didn't become another Bulgaria or any Slovakia there.
It’s not a sin for someone to learn from him, to be honest.
For example, historically and economically, our influence in Central Asia and Transcaucasia should grow. And Turkish, Chinese, and even for some reason American and British are growing. And whose merit is to a greater extent, theirs or what? I think ours. And there is nothing to be surprised and offended by them - they all want to profit at our expense, like vultures on a buffalo carcass.
Why we pretend to be a tasty carcass is a question for our leadership.

[man]

And there is nothing to be surprised and offended by them - they all want to profit at our expense, like vultures on a buffalo carcass.
And even the smallest

[Mitia68]

And the Sultan will reasonably answer you - what is your business anyway? I do what I want.

[Doctor]

A full-fledged union of Russia and Turkey is a nightmare for the Anglo-Saxons.

[man]

A full-fledged union of Russia and Turkey is a nightmare for the Anglo-Saxons.
There are no full-fledged unions in our understanding, it’s time to understand this. There will always be some disagreements, some special interests

[Romanovski]

Turkey's membership in NATO - NOBODY has yet canceled and is not going to cancel ... And the verbal shaking of the air by the Turks and the Americans themselves about the opposite is an attempt to deceive Russia itself and convince it that the alleged split in NATO has already taken place ....

[Gardamir]

Gas only goes abroad with discounts, for residents of Russia at inflated prices.
The plant in Ukraine will not be bombed either at the time of construction or then. when bayraktars begin to fly out of it.
Well, as sad as it is, Erdogan is a patriot of Turkey. Unlike the one that everyone interferes with, either the Americans, or the Europeans, or the Ukrainians.

[man]

Gas only goes abroad with discounts, for residents of Russia at inflated prices.
I also thought so, but people competent in this matter suggested that just with gas this is not so, domestic gas prices are quite low

[ocean969]

The author pulls the "owl on the globe", your questions do not even require answers, this is geopolitics, baby, geopolitics.

[Romanovski]

Russia needs to finally wake up from the "lethargic dream" regarding NATO and Turkey in particular .... The Third World War has already begun, and the stakes in this battle are so high that many in Russia cannot even imagine it .... If you look at history of relations between the USSR and Nazi (starting from 1933 ...) Germany BEFORE the start of the Second World War, then the ominous parallels between the current "friendship" of Russia and Turkey suggest themselves ... Stalin, too, until the last did not want to believe in Hitler's deceit and before the start of the Second World War he supplied fascist Germany with strategic raw materials (wheat, ore, oil, metals, etc.). Moreover, some of the Nazi pilots and tank crews studied in the USSR before the Second World War ... Now few people know that Goering (commander-in-chief of the German Luftwaffe ... ) ordered not to bomb the city of Lipetsk because his Russian girlfriend lived there, whom he met while still a cadet ....
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Breaking news: "Turkish warplanes have attacked some military targets in the Aleppo countryside, killing three Syrian army soldiers and injuring six more...".
Need comments?

[Petrik66]

all contacts with Turkey must be cut off immediately. All tourists go home. Let them sit on the river, turn off the gas and sit at home with it. disassemble the nuclear power plant. Adjara is our everything, it is painfully insulting how the Ottomans settled there. Kurds to put a mountain of weapons. AND LIVE. It's all about the oligarchs. Timchenko, you understand, made money.
Where will we sell gas? Why is there a sharply politicized struggle for tenders for the construction of nuclear power plants all over the world? Look, the Czechs threw us out of the tender so everyone was indignant, but the conditions there are the same - CREDIT. And in the absence of a Turkish holiday, how much will a bed in Sochi or Gelendzhik cost? how is the deluxe room in Nice?! The Turks have become the hub through which we can both export our products and import sanctioned goods.
What is the avatar up to?

[man]

The Turks have become the hub through which we can both export our products and import sanctioned goods.
What is the avatar up to?
The author wants the Turks to do this disinterestedly, without getting welded on us. I also want this.
But I'm afraid that the Turks will not listen to us

[Boxer]

Yes, another order. Someone does not like the economic rapprochement between Turkey and the Russian Federation, the increase in trade, partnership in other areas. They will not, for example, post an offended article in the Washington Post or "Aravot", they are trying to influence the internal audience. They say they fought, you know, with the Turks (we must continue)) or they offend Asadych. They have their own channels (with Russian names and surnames), they are called "through-through". Often these "Anna", "Tatiana", and other similar buffoons on duty from the Damansky island (without any hint, it turned out completely randomly)) may not even know from whom they took the order to cheat (it's fashionable to say so now), i.e. pour another portion of alarmist slops on someone. Usually their favorite object is Turkey, sometimes Azerbaijan. Even the frequency of such articles is already known. Or maybe they know who ordered the article. As Vespasian said, money always smells good))

[Egor53]

"Analysts Alexander Fek and Anna Kotelnikova came to the conclusion that the Turkish Stream will cost Gazprom $21 billion and will not pay off even in 50 years."

This is a blatant lie..rastic lie. The price shown is reasonable. But gas pipelines pay off very quickly. I know for sure that the payback period for the Power of Siberia is only 4,5 years. The Power of Siberia cost 20 billion, of which 50% was financed by China and 50% by Sberbank.
The payback period of the Turkish Stream is the same 4-5 years.
Idiots do not work in Gazprom, and even at a loss.

The nuclear power plant in Turkey is being built by Rosatom, and this nuclear power plant is the property of Rosatom, not Turkey - this is a Russian nuclear power plant that will sell electricity with a very decent income for Russia. Electricity is sold at a market price pegged to the cost of generation in conventional thermal power plants running on gas or coal. And the cost of email. energy at nuclear power plants is 2,5 times less.

Both in nuclear power plants and in gas, Russia is practically a monopoly, and Russia is not involved in unprofitable projects.

[Romanovski]

NATO has long and clearly been preparing to use the full power of 27 member states AGAINST the Russian Federation. I hope that in Russia over the past six months they have already managed to see the true face of NATO without the false masks of democracy and human rights ... cycle on the production of IMPACT (!) UAVs is also another wake-up call for Russia .... It will be very difficult for Russia itself to resist the power of 27 NATO members alone and it will have to rapidly unite the CSTO countries into the Union of the Russian Federation and Belarus, as well as immediately create an anti-NATO international coalition, which will gladly include China, North Korea, Vietnam, Mongolia, Iran, India (debatable, but there is a chance ..), Venezuela, Serbia and many other countries ...

[Des]

"Anna Kozyreva" is one of the aliases of (let's say so) "person", not necessarily female. Often on this site he was called a provocateur (possibly custom-made) or incompetent. Please be selective in your sources of information. This is for visitors and users of the site. Good luck).

[man]

"Anna Kozyreva" is one of the aliases of (let's say so) "person", not necessarily female. Often on this site he was called a provocateur (possibly custom-made) or incompetent. Please be selective in your sources of information. This is for visitors and users of the site. Good luck).
And just click on "Anna Kozyreva" and it appears podymych (Alexey)
Anything can happen, of course, but why did he take a woman's nickname ???

[Des]

He himself is unlikely to answer, you have to think for yourself. Maybe just a pederast.

[Boxer]

No, he's just vulnerable and tender)

[Voronezh]

Sultan oppresses his line. With problems such as inflation, but does what it considers beneficial for the country (and for itself, of course). When will we start thinking about what the country needs and not the fraternal peoples? (this is not about SVO)

[iouris]

Quote from Voronezh

When will we start thinking about what the country needs

"In the morning I smear a sandwich - I immediately thought: how are the people? And the caviar does not climb into the throat, And the cognac does not pour into the mouth!"

[Maks1995]

Naive questions.
All the answers have long been published separately and surfaced on the net.

I recall:
1. According to Gazprom, they wrote for a long time that kickbacks, inflated contract prices are a big source of income. But .... Gazprom is a forge and a feeding trough of the highest elite, the issue is closed.
3. Bayraktars - so NATO is also a business. How much have they already bet, not for free? everything is logical.
4. Why not? a small victorious war and influence on the region, contracts... everything is as usual for everyone.
5. The author himself answered - "soft political and economic expansion." Imperialism is in the yard, someone needs to supply capital, goods, influence ... and here too.
6. Same thing - imperialism. Grab territories, take oil, increase influence on the region, include in your money circulation... these are classic signs and properties.
It’s in vain that the RF Ministry of Defense directly announced that the Endogan family is engaged in smuggling, resale and extraction of Syrian oil, supports terrorists, etc. Did the author miss it? I don't think...

Money and power do not smell. It is naive and idealistic to assume the opposite .....

PS: Interestingly, Endogan will find out that he was asked some questions here ...))))

[Vyacheslav Ivasenko]

The Ottomans are not reliable.

[Romanovski]

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who met with Vladimir Putin the day before in Sochi and talked about opening a new chapter in relations between Russia and Turkey, continues to sell weapons to Ukraine. So, Ankara handed over 50 Kirpi armored vehicles to Kiev. This, in particular, was reported by military expert Mikhail Khodarenok on his telegram channel.

[Carlos Hall]

Sultan Erdogan is one of the few who dares to oppose the US

[Beloemigrant]

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[Beloemigrant]

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cognac does not pour into the mouth!
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a question for our leadership.

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[Yulian]

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Sultan Erdogan is one of the few who dares to oppose the US

Somehow the stabbings in the back of the SASH are not visible, but only in the back of Russia?! Accident?

[Dobroslav2015]

More than 500 years of war between Russia and Turkey. What kind of illusions can there be about this state?

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Tatiana

When building your own "Great Turan" in the post-Soviet space

And what could he do if not to carry out a massive expansion. Our castrated political scientists have been talking about anything for the last 20 years, making fun of the prophetic words of the great V. Zhirinovsky, about Turkish revanchism.
The vicious stake not on the People, but on the oligarchs of a specific national identity has completely failed. Moreover, Russia was sold not only by the lured, Ukrainian oligarchs, but also by our "relatives". Abramovich, received Israeli citizenship, his compatriots Fridman and Aven, too. They will "restore" Ukraine. That is, they no longer indirectly, but directly indicate their position on the NWO.
However, Aven and Friedman got dirty even earlier, their structures in Ukraine indirectly supported the ATO of the Ukronazis.
How long would the head of some British bank last in office if his structures supported the fair struggle of the IRA?