During a military special operation, the “best pilot of Ukraine” was eliminated

In Ukraine, they confirmed information about the elimination of the captain of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Anton Listopad during the hostilities. This information is noteworthy due to the fact that Captain Listopad was called in Ukraine "the best pilot in the country." It was he who, on the day of the 30th anniversary of the "independence" of Ukraine, was entrusted by the head of the Kyiv regime Zelensky to open the air part of the military parade.

Less than 2 months ago, the pilot Listopad was awarded the Order of Courage. The presentation was personally conducted by Zelensky.

Details of the death of the "best pilot of Ukraine" are not given. According to some reports, his plane was destroyed during an air battle. According to others, the Ukrainian captain was eliminated during an attack on one of the airfields.

Earlier it was reported that he and several other Ukrainian military pilots are preparing to learn how to pilot American-made fighters. It was about the F-16 combat aircraft, which Kyiv so wants to get at its disposal.

Information about the death of Listopad is confirmed by representatives of the Physics and Technology Lyceum of the city of Ivano-Frankivsk, where he once studied. "The Best Pilot of Ukraine" will be buried today in the aforementioned city in the west of the country.

Recall that earlier in Ukraine the myth of the “ghost of Kyiv” was actively promoted, which allegedly shot down almost 30 Russian aircraft in air battles. Then it turned out that there was nothing of the kind, and the “ghost of Kyiv” is supposedly a kind of collective image of a Ukrainian pilot.

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[Inokkenty]

There he is dear ... Let him now fly in hell with Bender in pans.

[The black]

This killer from the Luftwaffe will no longer bomb peaceful cities.

[The black]

In general, I thought the best ace of the Luftwaffe is the "Ghost of Kiev" ... after all, he shot down 6 planes in one sortie, Lucien Arestovich will not let you lie

[Tatyana]

In Ukraine, they confirmed information about the elimination of the captain of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Anton Listopad during the hostilities.
Less than 2 months ago, the pilot Listopad was awarded the Order of Courage. The presentation was personally conducted by Zelensky.

Also for me, Anton Listopad found someone to serve - the Nazi regime in the person of the Jew Zelensky and the world Jewish mafia in power in Kyiv in Ukraine!
Where do such "uninitiated" in the Talmud come from?

As you know, the nationality of the Jews is determined by the mother. Why? The thing is that Halakha defines it this way - traditional Jewish law, in the form of a set of laws and regulations of Judaism that regulate the religious, family and social life of believing (!) Jews. In a narrower sense Halakha is a set of laws contained in the Talmud.
Therefore, it is necessary to distinguish between Jews "by blood" and Jews "by spirit".

For example.
Arseniy Petrovich Yatsenyuk he was afraid and is afraid not so much to recognize his Jewishness in ethnic terms, but he carefully hides his Judaic worldview and the moral guidelines associated with it, which his ancestor, the famous Rabbi Bakai, stated so clearly and so understandably even for non-Jews.

Poroshenko also went through this.

In the same sense, one should understand the activities of the Russophobic Jew Zelensky as president of Ukraine, hiding under the guise of an ardent Nazi. Hence the genocide in Ukraine by Kiev of the Russian people, as well as the war of the Ukronazis to the "LAST Ukrainian" in favor of the international Jewish mafia!

See in detail - JEWISH SECRETS OF ARSENY BAKY-YATSENYUK - https://dmitri-obi.livejournal.com/4481976.html?ysclid=l6ufxsu0x313406317

[ABC-schutze]

"... the Physical-Technical Lyceum of the city of Ivano-Frankivsk, where he once studied. "The best pilot of Ukraine" will be buried today in the mentioned city in the west of the country...."
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I believe that no one has yet forgotten what kind of "seeing off" the Kyiv Bandera-Nazis "arranged" for Colonel Kochura and colleagues and residents of Donetsk who came to say goodbye to her in the city recreation center?..

It would be strange if the "response" from the Russian Aerospace Forces to the "farewell" to this lousy "ace" and the crowd of "seeing off Westerners" was not IDENTICAL (and not just "similar" ...).

There is still time to make a decision. And there is no need to MORE in the "answers" to the Kyiv Natsiks to be "embarrassed" of anything ...

I understand those who like to repeat for any reason and without any reason, "We are not like them ..."

But in SUCH CASES and IN RELATION TO SUCH WOMEN, we SHOULD BE not just "different" like them, but MUCH "worse" than them.

AND WITHOUT ANY "restraint" and "looking back at the Kyiv or" international "howl ...

IT'S TIME TO REALLY and REGULARLY REVENGE for the DAILY shelling and killing of civilians in Donetsk. Incl. and "feasible participation" in the "seeing off" of the Kyiv Natsiks, mercenaries and their handlers, utilized by the forces and means of the NWO ...

[Vasilich2217]

Absolutely nothing to add

[ABC-schutze]

"Adding" is not only "possible", but also NECESSARY - for the "farewell" to this bastard, as you might guess, a fairly representative "beau monde", and not just mummers from the "guard of honor" will be dragged.

And "at the same time, weed" the beds of this "beau monde", there is a VERY RATIONAL and USEFUL EVENT ...

[Geo73]

A young guy is killed, he is an enemy, and to kill an enemy if he does not surrender is ordinary military labor.

But why are we against - if there is at least one civilian in the crowd, and there will be children, and a widow and mother, perhaps. At the same time, a priori, we are not at war with civilians

[ABC-schutze]

WE ARE ALREADY about OUR civilians, mothers and children, it's high time to "start" thinking FIRST OF ALL. And not about ALIEN...
AND ALWAYS REMEMBER, IN SUCH CASES, WHO sets the "combat" tasks for THEIR destruction, EXACTLY in THIS war. And about WHO "heroically" performs these "combat" tasks ...

And time for the "peaceful" population of the enemy, in order to understand what "authority" controls them, and what "authority" their "warring" children serve, from February 24, MORE THAN ENOUGH WAS GIVEN ... As well as OPPORTUNITIES from get rid of this "power" ...

We definitely don't fight civilians. But if these civilians "lack of intelligence", in the course of the ongoing war, for reasons of their own security, purely PHYSICALLY, EVERYWHERE and ALWAYS, stay away from the "representatives" of this "authority", then alas, we, striking at the places of probable location such an audience, NO RESPONSIBILITY for the "collateral" damage should be taken MORE. Incl. and moral...

[My doctor]

Quote: ABC-schütze

WE ARE ALREADY about OUR civilians, mothers and children, it's high time to "start" thinking FIRST OF ALL. And not about ALIEN...
AND ALWAYS REMEMBER, IN SUCH CASES, WHO sets the "combat" tasks for THEIR destruction, EXACTLY in THIS war. And about WHO "heroically" performs these "combat" tasks ...

So untie your hands, declare war in order to liberate the territories. Then a completely different story begins.

[Kedrovich]

Let's act democratically, in the American way - we will bomb, and the civilians will go along the column - Collateral Damage. And that's it. In the spirit of democracy.

[Voronezh]

But weren't these "civilians" enthusiastically calling for the slaughter of Russia?

[Vita vko]

Quote: ABC-schütze

IT'S TIME TO REALLY AND REGULARLY REVENGE for the DAILY shelling and killing of civilians in Donetsk

If Russian troops begin to "revenge" and accidentally destroy someone from Zelensky's entourage or "God forbid" him, then Moscow will not be able to supply gas and oil to Europe, and Europe will stop financing the war and supply weapons. The Russian oligarchs will not forgive the Kremlin for this.

[Ivan Onya]

"Russian oligarchs" are probably the best friends of any other oligarchs. therefore (perhaps) until the oligarchy feels the heat from the NWO in decision-making centers, no one in Ukraine / Europe will agree to negotiations. in short, while there is no one to crush our Abramoviches, so that others move.

[Maverick1812]

I subscribe to every word! We are fighting in white gloves, but it is necessary as it is necessary! Stop paying attention to the western howl. Israel needs to learn. Spit on everything when the interests of the country are at stake.

[Season]

And why should the answer fly in the direction of the VKS? And why can't the People's Liberation Army of the Hutsul Republic do this?

[ruha]

From the fact that we bomb the funeral action, they will not grow wiser and the shelling will not decrease. And it's not even that. Or are we the same as them, or are there differences between us?! That is the question! If we repeat, then we are Nazis too!

[the Urals]

Absolute Za

[kuztoday]

Of course, nothing like this will happen here. What are you. We're not like that. We are "humane". Humanity had to be shown in 2014. For example, to stop trade with Europe in gas through Ukraine. Peacefully it was necessary to crush the creatures. And if they started a massacre, what kind of humanity can be??? Complete nonsense

[restless]

What are you talking about, they can’t make a decision to disable roadways, bridges and railway roads along which weapons and ammunition for the Armed Forces of Ukraine are moved from the west, and there’s nothing to say about civilian managers, they are ready to give energy resources to enemies for nothing. Some kind of booth, they sell to the enemies everything from which weapons will be made, with which they will then kill our soldiers, isn't this a crime ??

[Russian]

How much hate you have. Nowhere is it written in the article that he is a Nazi, bombed civilians and so on. Maybe this is the same pilot as ours, who performed the assigned combat missions?

[begemot20091]

he has never been ours - a sharovarnik - he is also a sharovarnik in Africa.

[Russian]

Hmm, you don't even know what I mean. Propaganda works well both here and in Ukraine, for how many years they have been hammering in that there are only Nazis) And all these comments are proof of this. Previously, it was one people, and now it is a sharovarnik. Or do you expect that everyone without exception should immediately go over to our side? So maybe they would have crossed over if our highly respected leadership cut off his head - struck blows at the General Staff and the President's office. But for some reason, everyone is satisfied with the grinding of ordinary fighters - both from their side and from ours. Only at such a pace, by the end of the 21st century, I feel a face with white skin will be a curiosity in our territory.

[gurzuf]

You probably forgot, or maybe you were not interested in who in the 14th year Nurs-ami hit Donetsk from the sky. That's what they get the title - "best". And yes, as an officer, he must know the Constitution of his country ... although he is from the city of Ivano-Frankivsk.

[Cheshirskicat]

You are not quite right. Propaganda, of course, works both for us and for them, only now their propaganda flourished after 2014, when they began to sculpt from Russia not just the image of an enemy, but a country that should not exist. From the Russians they tried, and quite successfully, to blind Untermensch. And I saw it with my own eyes, I saw how the attitude of many acquaintances from Kyiv and other cities is changing towards us. Although, it would seem, adults should think with their own heads, but ... what can we say about children who were completely brainwashed by the propaganda of Poroshenko and the evil clown. Although in fairness it should be noted that we have never been particularly loved in Ukraine, and I'm not even talking about the western regions.
But we, Russia, until recently did not turn on the propaganda machine, trying to see brothers and friendly, but deceived people in Ukrainians. Read the press for the last five or six years. What Nazis? Too late, we began to tell the truth about what is happening in Ukraine and how we are treated there.
But we have never been fraternal peoples, even in the USSR. I remember very well the confrontation between Russians and Ukrainians from the military service. This was not the case with the Belarusians, even with the Armenians they served normally, apart from normal domestic conflicts.

[begemot20091]

I have something to judge. I lived there for 25 years and from the first day of my arrival I listened to what was only said in the kitchens that they fed us and watered us. and ... I'm not going to go into all these idiocy, but I will say one thing: as soon as the opportunity arose to leave, I left. we were not one people. I told the Ukrainian political officer about this that he would choke on three throats. how, apart from the kitchen, I didn’t see him anywhere at the training exits. eat, drink and talk about unbreakable friendship. now he is with yarosh

[Alemax]

Do you think a strike on the 404 General Staff and the Zeli office will stop hostilities?

[kuztoday]

There is truth in your words. When I hear what losses on both sides, my heart bleeds. Why all this horror...? On the empty place.

[My doctor]

Quote from kuztoday

There is truth in your words. When I hear what losses on both sides, my heart bleeds. Why all this horror...? On the empty place.

Don't worry, this is just the beginning.

[provergatel]

Could you enlighten me where and what did you hear about the losses of the Russian side?

[single-n]

It is enough to open a local newspaper. Funeral in a couple of days. And I'm not sure that they write about everyone. Put on that for 1 killed 3-4 wounded, including cripples. In my area, the population is approximately 1 million. Multiply by 130 and here is the approximate scale of the losses. Approximately 50 people per day in the 200s and 150-200 in the 300s. By the standards of the Second World War, nothing, but within the framework of the NWO, I xs how much. So do not think that these shootings are easy for us. Every day it's 50 people in the minus. In addition, add the death of the civilian

[provergatel]

Well, that's about the right count.

As part of any counter-terrorist operation, when a regular well-armed and equipped army is against any irregulars hiding in the bushes and armed mainly with rifles, the losses are prohibitive.

And with full-fledged hostilities against an enemy comparable in terms of armament and equipment, on a front of a thousand kilometers long, not very big losses. I understand that it sounds cynical, and every death is a tragedy for many loved ones and for the whole country, as young men or men in the prime of life die. And I, like every normal Russian, is extremely sorry for each of our dead or maimed. And even more so, I don’t consider these light shootings or any of the losses insignificant.

But here the laws of statistics come into force. When every day on the thousand-kilometer line of contact, hundreds of thousands of people on each side shoot at each other with the firm intention of killing, and not only with personal small arms, this level of casualties is not considered prohibitive.

Here are the Ukrainians, on especially unsuccessful (for them and successful for us) days, who go by express train to Banderka with whole battalions (quantitatively), they really suffer monstrous losses.

[sniperino]

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

Propaganda works well both in our country and in Ukraine, for how many years they have been hammered in that there are only Nazis

Give at least one link to "there are only Natsiks", but not to some kind of network freak, but to a source associated with our state. Otherwise, it is not clear who and what drummed into you.
If there are only Nazis there, it turns out that carpet bombardments of cities are needed for the "final solution of the Ukrainian issue" (denazification), and for some reason the state is messing around with them. So that distrust of the authorities is dispersed among the people and claims against the state accumulate among the military? For what?

[2112vda]

You are so "kind" with us because you and your family members did not have to communicate with the Galician Banderva. My family has a wealth of experience in this area. We know these "heroes" well, we have the sad experience of 1942, 1947 and 2016. What can I say about this "ass", the award found a "hero".

[Russian]

Let me explain the logic: you are now leveling everyone with the same brush. I do not think that there are all polls "Natsiks", and this is how we differ from them. Our goal is denazification, not the extermination of the male population of Ukraine. And judging by these comments, we are no different from them. Oh, they killed a Ukrainian, great! All to the wall. There is essentially a civil war going on here, and the truth is hard to find here.

[ABC-schutze]

Russia's PURPOSE is the LEGAL ENSURING of its SECURITY and PROTECTION of its LEGAL NATIONAL INTERESTS. And the "denazification" and "demilitarization" you mentioned are the MAIN TASKS solved by the Russian Armed Forces and the forces of the union republics TO ACHIEVE THIS LEGAL GOAL.

Exactly SUCH "strict" wording will be correct and competent from all points of view. Both military and political, including ...

I personally, ON THIS TOPIC, in general, FOR THE FIRST TIME, since February 24, expressed my opinion. And, even when the Nazis and mercenaries of our prisoners of war "under the lenses", with a "layout" on the Web, tortured and killed with laughter, he was silent.

But, after the shelling of the INTENTIONAL shelling of the civil farewell ceremony in the civilian recreation center, with Colonel Kochura, FOR ME PERSONALLY, the "time of silence" and "nodding the head" in response to "clarifications" is over ...

[January]

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

And judging by these comments, we are no different from them. Oh, they killed a Ukrainian, great! All to the wall

That's why you and the major, even though you've been on the site for over 10 years. You don't have a "fashionable" position. Here people become generals in 3 months on slogans and bloodlust. Everyone wants to be a little "Goebbels" and perform from an armored car, turning on the crowd.
And she (the crowd) does not need much. She has no brains, only emotions.
Hatred is a vivid emotion and brings good dividends. Here likes, somewhere money, somewhere power ....

[ABC-schutze]

Well, just, personally, I urge to distinguish "general" from "private" ...

You, quite "generalized" (with a bias, in general, into demagogy), operate with phrases like - "they killed a Ukrainian, - great!" or "do not fight civilians."

Yes, THIS IS TO EVERYONE (well, if not to "everyone", but to the majority ...) and LONG, ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTANDING and without "explanations" ...

But the OBJECTIVE, INTENTIONALLY, of the destruction of the civilian population, is a task that DIRECTLY or INDIRECTLY is set by POLITICS - MILITARY, already at the stage of making a political decision to start hostilities. AND THE GOALS OF SUCH POLITICIANS ARE FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THOSE, in the name of which Russia, LEGALLY, started its own ...

In my case, we are talking about SPECIFIC, LEGAL, ADEQUATE, and EXACTLY, - "DESIGNATION" PAYMENT TO THE LEADERSHIP of the enemy and his SUPPORTERS for THEIR SPECIFIC CRIMES. So that they, in the FUTURE, when making decisions on setting military tasks, on delivering art-bomb strikes, in particular on funeral processions, realize that SUCH A RESPONSE, to THEIR ACTIONS, in the future will be NEEDED and OBLIGATORY.

AND POTENTIALLY, WILL AFFECT EACH OF THEM if he drags himself "to give farewell honors." Moreover, the civilian population in the territory temporarily controlled by them will "drag" with them and thereby "set up" ...

In short, let THEY, and ALL WITHOUT EXCEPTION, NOW think WELL ...

[kot711]

And judging by these comments, we are no different from them. Oh, they killed a Ukrainian, great!
Yes, not a Ukrainian was killed, but a chela who served the Nazis. Can't you see the difference?

[sniperino]

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

And judging by these comments, we are no different from them.

Now I understand. You don't mean official propaganda, but local propaganda. But local propagandists cannot be exhorted, it is useless. Previously, at least there were shoulder straps with skulls, now they will not work, because a critical mass has already accumulated.

[ABC-schutze]

The "combat" tasks that seized power in the former united Ukraine during the STATE REVOLUTION, the Kyiv Natsiks and their overseas masters since 2014, have been ILLEGALLY assigned to him ...

And not at all his LEGAL President and Supreme Commander-in-Chief, Viktor Yanukovych. And he, by the way, took the military oath as "the same" military man "like ours" ...

So he, accepting the "premium" pieces of iron from the Kyiv clown-"president", did he remain "faithful" to THIS oath? "new government"?

THEREFORE, SUCH pilots like OURS, who serve the LEGAL Russian authorities with the Kyiv Nazis, BY DEFINITION, THERE ARE NO MORE and CANNOT BE. Unless they are fighting on the side of the DPR and LPR ...

You, as I believe, are still "not in the know"? .. THEY, the "Nazis", having filled up the Malaysian Boeing and 300 passengers, including children, on a CLEAR DAY, including children, set a "combat" or "political" task? ..

[January]

Please tell me, why do you use capslock like that? Are you trying to INCREASE the psychological impact of your words on readers in this way? For what purpose?
Or are you just having problems with your keyboard?

[ABC-schutze]

You are absolutely right...

A forum (any...) is a PLACE OF COMMUNICATION, not conversations "with oneself." And the "foreign phrase" you mentioned is a NORMAL means of emphasizing the BASIC thought ...

I have no problems with the keyboard. But, as I hope, your long-term experience of being on the VO forum tells you, not everyone and not immediately read what is written, carefully enough from the "first time". Incl. and by virtue of the references to "emotions" so WISHINGLY called on by you "for help" ...

Now the question is counter, but logical ...

And why is it that you, ALREADY TWO TIMES, within an hour or two, opposing others, FIRST OF ALL, draw your attention NOT to ARGUMENTS, but to "technical" details? ..

Like, - "how long" is the counterpart on the forum and his speed of his "career growth"? .. Or "what letters" does he use in the comments? ..

Is it from your, in THIS case, inability to give adequate counterarguments? ..

[ABC-schutze]

And I’ll clarify - it was NOT I who put the “minus” on you ...

[January]

Yes, I actually ̶p̶o̶ don't care. Both on the minuses and on their authors. Unlike you, I'm not interested in likes here.

[ABC-schutze]

Well, let's start with the fact that your "crossed out" "PO" is nothing more than your emotions. This time...

Further, I simply DO NOT BELIEVE you, because "on the topic of likes", i.e. on technical details, it was you who "turned off" the discussion of the article FIRST (and WITHOUT ANY REASON ...). These are two...

And I will not ask the question of your use of "flying hats". It is your right to "express yourself" in this way, if, in a SPECIFIC case, your "verbal arsenal" is exhausted ... These are three ...

[January]

Quote: ABC-schütze

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU

I'm incredibly sorry. I'll try to get through this somehow.

[January]

Quote: ABC-schütze

And why is it that you, ALREADY TWO TIMES, within an hour or two, opposing others, FIRST OF ALL, draw your attention NOT to ARGUMENTS, but to "technical" details? ..

And this is due to the fact, dear, that VO, instead of analyzing and discussing what is happening with the help of "technical details", is rapidly turning into a rally a la "whoever does not jump, that one (substitute personal preference)". And the arguments that you are trying to refer to in the comments of "others" unfortunately do not exist. At least I didn't see them.
If you do, I will apologize to you. If not, I have every right to call you the same balabol, as well as those whose arguments you fantasized here.
In my opinion, what you call arguments is labeling and inciting ethnic hatred. But not the one for which we have an article, but the one that is increasingly passed off as patriotism (although in fact this is one and the same ). But in reality it is cheap populism.
We can call it double standards.

Quote: ABC-schütze

Is it from your, in THIS case, inability to give adequate counterarguments? ..

Good attempt to offend me, so as not to attract the attention of the moderators.
Cowardice forces to develop.
Is it from your, in THIS case, personal dissatisfaction, or by trying to offend your interlocutor, are you increasing your own heart rate?

[ABC-schutze]

"And this is due to the fact, dear, that VO, instead of analyzing and discussing what is happening with the help of "technical details", is rapidly turning into a rally a la "whoever does not jump, that one (substitute personal preference)".
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And how "long ago" did you "notice" this, if not a secret? at least slow down"?..

Or do you prefer such "prose", populist declarations about the "degradation" of the VO forum? .. Like your "open statements" to "nowhere"? ..

".. Which you are trying to refer to in the "others" comments, unfortunately not. At least I did not see them."
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Well, that's basically your problem.

Just in case, - for a "greater understanding" of the argumentation of "others" ...

Someone I. V. Stalin (which you probably heard about once or twice), NEVER SET the Red Army "tasks" of reprisals against German prisoners of war or the civilian population.

But, in the SPECIFIC case, and in relation to the SPECIFIC military personnel of the Wehrmacht - in particular, the REGIMENT involved in the GREAT torture and GREAT execution of the partisan Kosmodemyanskaya, he instructed - "DO NOT TAKE POW." And I, unlike you, perfectly understand WHY and WHY he MADE SUCH A DECISION...

[January]

Happy for you. You are bothering me.
All the best to you.

[ABC-schutze]

"If you imagine, I will apologize to YOU. If not, I have every right to call you the same balabol as those whose arguments you fantasized here. yes..."
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Well, unlike you, I understand that we are not at the market and not on the tram. And on the VO forum. For this, I will not "call" you in the "answer" in any way. Even though I can...

"In my opinion, what you call arguments is labeling and inciting ethnic hatred."
******************************************************* ************************** I used ONLY ONE, THE ONLY "label" in my comments - "Natsik". That is to say, a derivative of one of the COMPONENTS OFFICIALLY set by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the task - "DENACIFATION". And I don’t see any “signs” of inciting the one you mentioned (populist, mentioned, I UNDERLINE ...) here. About "fraternal" PEOPLES or "enemy" NATIONALITIES and other things, I HAVE NEVER hinted at all. You, with this rhetoric, literally "do not get off" ...

I allow you (as the junior in the "forum" title) to consider that such your populism and demagogy causes MY PERSONAL DISSATISFACTION. You, - HERE, are TOTALLY GOOD ...

[qQQQ]

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

Maybe this is the same pilot as ours, who performed the assigned combat missions?

If you remember the story, at the beginning of the Second World War there was a message: from the other side, the deceived workers, with what blood it backfired, there is no need to remind. He is an enemy, which means that a priori it cannot be the same as ours.

[sniperino]

Quote: qqqq

If you remember the story, at the beginning of the Second World War there was a message: on the other hand, deceived workers, what blood it backfired

I remember about the "deceived workers", I even agree with this. But how does this relate to "backfired" (responded)? Since the 1st MV, people have been told that the German proletariat is our friends and brothers. Then these "brothers" showed their bestial mug. It had to be explained somehow. How do you think it should have been? To say that the Germans are inferior, genetic subhumans? Correctly explained: "deceived." And the German cities, in which there was no accumulation of enemy troops, were not washed into dust, like the Americans Dresden.

[qQQQ]

Quote: sniperino

How do you think it should have been?

Since they did it in 1942, after the hardest defeats - Ehrenburg "Kill the German". Read and understand everything. When the result of the war became already known and we entered the territory of Germany, another message already became - mercy for the vanquished. Now is not the time for that.

[sniperino]

Quote: qqqq

Ehrenburg "Kill the German". Read and understand everything.

I read that. You won't mind either

Ilya Ehrenburg
kill
Like blood in your temple
Like a year in the blood, like an account of insults,
As grief drunk and without wine,
And how great silence
What after bullets and after mines,
And a hundred pounds, for a moment,
Like this life - don't eat, don't drink
And do not breathe - one thing: kill!
For your wife’s tight mouth
For years burned
For there is no sleep, no walls,
For the cry of children, for the cry of sirens,
For the fact that even the image
His eyes cried
Behind the mountain of insulted bees
Because he came to you
Because you don’t eat, don’t drink,
Like blood in a temple - one thing: kill!

November 1942, XNUMX
About war

Where is the "kill the German" found here?

[qQQQ]

Quote: sniperino

Where is the "kill the German" found here?

I'm sorry, I confused Ehrenburg's "Kill" with Simonov's "Kill him". But it doesn't change the essence. True, in the modern version, the German was replaced by a fascist. Although the original sounded exactly German.

[Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich]

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

How much hate you have. Nowhere is it written in the article that he is a Nazi, bombed civilians and so on. Maybe this is the same pilot as ours, who performed the assigned combat missions?

Oh, Kolya from Urengoy smelled!!! Even the vocabulary is the same...

[restless]

Of course, he is a maize pilot and flew out only to spray the fields from agricultural pests. Wake up, there is a war going on and all the pilots of military aircraft are working to destroy them as well, an example of this is his liquidation ..

[Thrifty]

With such a surname, you can fly only in a dream and no higher than the level of the sofa ....

[Maz]

Glassy earth and phosgene

[dmi.pris1]

Eh, you won’t get a duck on an Amerz flyer ... Well, that’s wonderful

[Mister X]

According to some reports, his plane was destroyed during an air battle. For others...

He could be shot down by his own.
And pass off as another downed occupier.
In the same place, they shoot at everything that flies, and then they figure it out

[The black]

So what? It is quite possible that he was shot down by the same grandmother who shot down the UAV with a jar of cucumbers ... apparently after that she was appointed to lead the air defense of Kyiv

[Mister X]

Quote: Black

It is quite possible that the same grandmother knocked him down

And the tanks are knocked out by Javelina like a club)

[Russian guy]

Well, they shot down and brought down the punisher to the worms for joy. holiday

[Mister X]

Quote: Russian Guy

holiday

What the fuck is a holiday?
This guy was so brainwashed from birth that he went to kill the same Slavs as himself.
To punish them - then there will be a holiday.
With tears in his eyes.
Because this is a civil war, as it was 100 years ago.
Or I'm wrong?

[smart ass]

It's a shame all this and annoying when the Russians are essentially killing the Russians. I can imagine how mattresses rejoice.

[Phil77]

Quote: Clever man

It's a shame all this and annoying when the Russians are essentially killing the Russians. I can imagine how mattresses rejoice

How much hate?
But there was also Ivan Kozhedub!

[dmi.pris1]

He was a Soviet Man. And not a Ukrainian organism .. Draw conclusions why this "hatred"

[Phil77]

I treat a person outside of his nationality. Namely? Who is he? As a person.

[dmi.pris1]

Ukrainianness is not a nationality. It is a way of life, thoughts

[Phil77]

Quote: dmi.pris

lifestyle, thoughts

And blacks ???

[dmi.pris1]

And what do they have to do with it? We are talking about RUSSIAN people. Only one group of these Russian brains is completely turned away. An example of my four fellow students, born and raised, educated in the RSFSR. Three are completely frostbitten, but one of this trinity was lucky to return to their homeland. He in Energodar, works at a nuclear power plant

[sniperino]

Quote: dmi.pris

Only one group of these Russians have their brains completely turned away.

The enemy in battle must be killed without these "subtle definitions". But when the enemy is defeated, it is worthwhile to figure out who is the criminal and who is the victim, and put the criminals against the wall, and the victims - to set their brains at the construction sites of the national economy.

[Stanislav Khatuntsev]

They remembered Kozhedub, then remember about Bandera, about Shukhevych, about Mazepa and other hetmans who betrayed Russia and the Russian name - at least about the son of Bogdan Khmelnitsky Yuri. It was not for nothing that Gogol wrote his Bulba.

[Phil77]

Quote: Stanislav Khatuntsev

Remember Bandera, about Shukhevych, about Mazepa and other hetmans who betrayed Russia and the Russian name - that's

Patriotic! But for some reason my grandfather is in my memory. He fought. Captivity. He fought again. No need, eh?

[Phil77]

Quote: Stanislav Khatuntsev

wrote his.

You better remember "our" ambassadors in Ukraine, huh? Do you remember their last names? What were they doing there???

[Phil77]

Quote: Phil77

were engaged

I will answer for you. Nothing. In general. It takes a lot of effort to turn the majority of Russian-speaking Ukraine into enemies.

[dmi.pris1]

I remember Zurabov. What did he do? Surely he did NOTHING useful for Russia. But it’s not only about ambassadors, they are subordinate people. But about failed politics. Three decades. And this is not only in Ukraine.

[smart ass]

Well, you inflated, the officer flyer took the oath, carried out orders, you already wrote him down in Bandera. As for the Azov people and other scum of the national battalions, they are immediately processed

[Phil77]

Quote: Clever man

mattresses rejoice.

And then? Of course they rejoice. But we also know this MAN!

[Phil77]

Awesome! "Minus" to the hero! Wonderful!

[iouris]

Three times Hero of the Soviet Union Ivan Kozhedub does not fit into the "history of Ukraine". This Ukraine. Not at all. There Galilee from Galicia, the Gauls - the ancient Galicians and other crap. Let's not use our dear names in vain.

[Phil77]

Quote: iouris

Let's not use our dear names in vain.

Let's. A concrete answer. I respect. This is not a stupid "minus".

[laws70]

It's a shame all this and annoying when the Russians are essentially killing the Russians. I can imagine how mattresses rejoice.

Mattresses have been systematically going to this since the 50s of the last century, so we now have what we have ..

[Phil77]

Quote from: laws70

we have what we have..

We have what we were led to by a person who cannot be talked about. His "cute" personnel policy.

[kuztoday]

It's disgusting not that they went. They had to - they went. But why did they get there in the end? They were walking, and we were blind, and not a single kera understood that they were coming???

[Russian guy]

This is exactly how this un-Russian dreamed of taking our Kuban, Moscow in 2 days, but he took it only between the tonsils

[Jager]

Eh, but he could have been an exemplary Soviet pilot, if not for ...

[Popenko]

Fir-trees-sticks, well, why "with Bendera", because this ka, in fact, is called BANDERA. And then in hell hiccups a completely different dead man.

[faterdom]

You can't become a hero by fighting against your people. V. Hugo.

[kuztoday]

Quotes should be sent to Putin.

[Russian guy]

Send Zelensky while he's alive.

[Arkady007]

Pilots are piece goods and expensive.
Our leaders need to draw conclusions from this and very serious ones. Time does not endure, and maybe already too late.

[rotfuks]

Which exactly "your leaders"? Are you hinting about Zelensky's office? They are not the type to draw conclusions.

[Arkady007]

Have you tried looking around?

[Architect]

So quietly, without pomp and fuss, they liquidated almost the entire Ukrainian Air Force.
There, more Nazis from the house of officers of Vinitsa will be added to the place

[Lech from Android.]

The destruction of the most combat-ready forces of Nazi Ukraine will quickly lead to the end of the NWO.
It would be nice to thin out the Nazi elite in the Rada and in the government.

[Shark Lover]

This is not a pity. Judging by his age, he did not serve in the USSR Air Force, but was already grown in the territory of darkness, so they drove deeper and it’s good.

[Sergej1972]

Yes, there are very few who served during the Soviet era left. Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny, for example, did not serve in the Soviet Army.

[tralflot1832]

I wonder why he is the "best" pilot in Ukraine?

[Raven 95]

It's just a position. Now the next one will be appointed.

[Konung]

I wonder why he is the "best" pilot in Ukraine?

In the realm of the blind, and the one-eyed one is king

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tralflot1832

I wonder why he is the "best" pilot in Ukraine?

Because he is from Stanislav, and not from the Moskal Little Russia.

[tralflot1832]

From the Khokhlyatsky side, I think why "the best." Yes, so that I can pay my wife a smaller pension. Captain, not a major. And the title "best" cannot be applied to accounting.

[neworange88]

Because from Stanislav (Ivano-Frankivsk). He is also Vshtanislav.

[Mikhailov V.B.]

Vshtanisrav?

[tihonmarine]

Quote from: neworange88

).He is Vshtanislav.

The beam will replace the letters "I" with "Y" and "L" with "P".

[iouris]

Former Ukraine.
The personal information is correct. There were Bandera in the family.
"Captain, you will never be a major..."

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: tralflot1832

I wonder why he is the "best" pilot in Ukraine?

Probably because, unlike a couple of hundred of his colleagues, this one lasted longer, but as they say - “the music didn’t play for a long time, the fraer didn’t dance for a long time,” and his turn came.

[opposite28]

"Phantom of Kyiv" continues to carry out "service" at the address of Kiev, 11 Bankovaya St., as well as the address of the representative office of "American Dementia", Kiev, Sikorsky St., 4.

[tihonmarine]

Information about the death of Listopad is confirmed by representatives of the Physics and Technology Lyceum of the city of Ivano-Frankivsk

Leaf-leaf-leaf...
Who is to blame for this?
Maybe the wind is mischievous
Decided to play with foliage?

[Uncle lee]

1. Falling, falling leaves -
In our garden leaf fall
2. Falling, falling, falling leaves-
Well, let it be, but the light is more transparent ...

[Sergey39]

In hell, for these ghouls, there are a lot of places! (((

[km-21]

Sorry for another wasted young life.
I could fly successfully for a long time protecting the sky of a single great Motherland.

[iouris]

"Yellow faces are circling over the city..."
Falling leaves.
This is pure propaganda, where someone must be the "best" in the national competition.
It is not individuals who win, but large systems.

[Phil77]

Quote: iouris

It is not individuals who win, but large systems.

Those win. Who lay down under them. Where are the "elite" kids? And we will win?

[iouris]

You spoke off topic. This is a separate issue.
The meaning of my statement is that today, in principle, there cannot be "the best pilots" The time of aces of lone heroes of supermen has long passed. A combat aviation complex is a "large system", i.e. system of the highest level of complexity. Simply put, advanced technology.
"The best pilot of Ukraine" is propaganda in its purest form. At the end of the war, modern Goebbels, walking arm in arm with Gordons, need such lone heroes. The whole ideology of Nazism is permeated with the idea of ​​a superman, and the Goebbels themselves - miserable, insignificant personalities - are very different from such "supermen".

[Retvizan 8]

The logical result of the warriors who came to the defense of the Kyiv frantic political regime led by the Clown and shed the blood of our soldiers.

[Oleg Shustov]

Earth to him with concrete !!!

[marc75]

Non-flying surname

[svp67]

The sheet did fall ... And he piloted the Rook, so the message about the destruction of numerous Su-25s is confirmed

Less than 2 months ago, the pilot Listopad was awarded the Order of Courage.

They do not have the Order of Courage, but they have "For Courage" ...

[GNM]

Quote: svp67

The leaf has fallen...

Less than 2 months ago, the pilot Listopad was awarded the Order of Courage.

They do not have the Order of Courage, but they have "For Courage" ...

So he was also married?

[Stanislav Khatuntsev]

European such a dick in Ukraine)

[Dmitry Starorussky]

FUNERAL PROCESSION WITHOUT SHITTING! HOW BANDEROVTS RECENTLY DID IT! ANSWER MUST BE!!!

[Corrosion inhibitor]

Why don't they report our losses for the period?
For example, you can do it late. Not so much passion will boil. But people will know the truth. Including about the "aces" of Ukraine. All Ukrainian exploits can be calculated even by a "visitor of VO".
In any case, it's been a long time. If they don’t speak, it means they are already hiding, it means there is something to hide. Is that bad. It is all the more bad when the authorities are still afraid to tell the truth.
Why Ukraine is doing this is understandable, they lie from three boxes so that everyone comes to the forefront, from fools to those who could not sag. I can imagine how prices have jumped up in the price lists of military enlistment offices in Ukraine now ...
And, here's why they still do it in the Russian Federation - it is already becoming extremely suspicious.
Konashenkov will soon be promoted again, for victorious reports, and who we are losing can only be seen from video clips in Telegram and music videos. Everything else is complete nonsense.
In my opinion, the situation needs to be corrected.

[Anna E]

So what's the point in campaigning for "Soviet power"?! Don't waste your time and eloquence on us. Write to the chief!

[Corrosion inhibitor]

I write there. And you write there. We all write there. For many many years now. It all started, if you remember, with email.

[Phil77]

Quote: Corrosion_Inhibitor

I write there.

It was. Vladimir Semyonovich.
"We will write-in * Sportloto *!" (c)

[Corrosion inhibitor]

Yes, something like that. ))

[Inokkenty]

No matter how many Khokhlobats you write to Shoigu, he will not answer you, he is not a fool. Write to your master Biden.

[Phil77]

Quote: Inokkenty

khokhlobots

Think! Sometimes you have to think, not hang labels. Try it? Maybe ????

[Corrosion inhibitor]

And this too. This cannot be avoided in public forums. The Internet will now be international until the first rockets fall on the continents and extinguish all traffic.
After that, the Internet will become a luxury, but will not cease to be international.
In theory, you can change the mathematical model of direct feedback that works on the Internet. But, everyone is already connected, and the economy has become international, and it will be like this until the end of time.
The question of who you write to is usually asked too late, because you need to start with yourself. And ordinary people today do not even have the basic knowledge of digital hygiene, not to mention the practically useful skills of conspiracy and building a system for accumulating, processing and storing information based on them. It hasn't caught on in the masses yet. A monkey with a smartphone is still a monkey. In a herd of monkeys, something changes only when they begin to massively eat them ...
So, YES, it turns out, and I also write to them. But, at least I understand it, unlike you. And this is already a lot ... by modern standards.

[Phil77]

Quote: Russian Guy

With this, what?

Russian guy! Not with this. Think!

[Russian guy]

Phil77! So this. Don't think!

[Season]

The number of our losses is not publicly announced, so that individuals like you do not dance on the bones of the Heroes who died in the fight against the Nazis, defending their country.

[Corrosion inhibitor]

I have named one extreme, and you - the second. The fact that most people live in the middle, you probably do not know.
Moreover, before moving on to humiliation, they did not even ask who they were writing to. I remind you that the user profile is open here.
And the individual is you ... You are the monkey in the tree, who, like, doesn’t care about anything until they get caught in the ass.
One more thing. In war, heroes are far from everything. To know them, you need to know the losses. And so you do not know anything at all and live a fool's life. Then, even if you are called to the front line, you will not know who you are, a hero or a D.U.R.A.K. Heroes do not go to the feat for themselves. Heroes are born among people and go to great deeds for the sake of everyone else. So you need to be among people who are now defending human values, and not among a herd of brainless monkeys ... on a tree with an elevator and all the other achievements of human civilization, but not monkeys.

[Phil77]

Quote: Seaslon

by the fascists

Oh, well, the right to be slightly interested in terms, huh?

[rotfuks]

What are your losses? Judging by the intonation, you mean Ukrainian. Why don't you ask there? They don't even bury their own there. There are no funeral teams. Killed Ukrainians wallow in forest belts in 30 degree heat. Imagine what they look like in a week in this heat.

[Russian guy]

And what do you care about our New Russia, Little Russia? Already do not have time to save hryvnia for coffins, for funerals?

[kill the fascist]

Once the enemy does not surrender, they destroy him. And this pilot, mortar or purely cook accidentally wandered - the tenth thing. In the next world, they will distribute whom where.

[DenVB]

The word "liquidated" looks silly. It was like they were specifically hunting him. Who and why did he need to hunt him?

[Two]

Considering the bells and whistles on the "ghosts", it's time to look for and bring down the poltergeist manager!

[Roust]

The leaf broke off and fell. I chose the wrong profession with such a surname.

[Anna E]

Well, the "ghost of Kyiv" went where the ghosts are supposed to. He won’t be lonely there, the team got what it needed. For a long time in hell there were not so many scumbags at once. Probably additional gas supplies were requested, new boilers to boil.

[seziomoff.s]

With such a surname in aviation is impossible. It's about to fall.

[Mikhail Kosikov0418]

The pilot can be really good. But he fought on the side of the Ukronazis and Banderapithecus. Therefore, it is satisfying.

[ValeraKrasovski]

This is a retribution for the destruction of children, women and other civilians of Donbass. There this ukronazi and the road.

[fiv]

And what kind of lever does it have from below - sticking out from behind? Antenna? NOT. optical illusion..

[Glagol1]

Recently there was information that dill MiG-29 and Su-27 were shot down. Maybe he flew on one of them ... He flew off.

[Valery Volkov]

Autumn is coming soon and ... leaf fall is just around the corner, so ... "leaves" have flown.

[Uprun]

Much ado about nothing... Shot down/destroyed the enemy... and that's the main thing! I don’t think that in the Second World War there was so much talk and snot about the downed fascist "ace" ... He did not spray the fields over the Donbass ...

[andrey kuznetsov_3]

Pilots are a white bone in any army in the world. The loss of aces is a blow to any Air Force. Flew.

[Paul Siebert]

"ghost of Kyiv" - supposedly a certain collective image of the Ukrainian pilot.

Collective image?
Oh well...
So now collect your Leaf fall! ..
Suitable surname.
In short - "downed pilot"!

[Baron pardus]

It's nice to hear the news about the dead pilots of the Hohlonedo-Luftwaffe. Oh nice. It's nice to hear about Khoklo-schweinen losses in general, and it's especially nice to hear that the Russian troops banged some kind of specialist. They are very difficult to replace. God bless you guys. Kill these non-Wehrmachts.

[Emergency]

Leaf fall, leaf fall ... Banderva is being driven to hell.

[TatarinSSSR]

Earth is glassy ...

[Siberian]

Well, another bearer of EVIL for the civilian population of DONBASS is gone. Not everyone can fight with their people ... but this one fought and there is no justification for his actions. Just another victim of Zelensky's criminal regime... he is on the conscience of this regime...

[Sasha1979]

They landed the vile Bandera with the ends. That's where the road is. All Bandera people must go in this direction - to meet with Bandera.

[Havoc]

And I thought that "THIS" ace number one.

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[Lara Croft]

Quote: Havoc

And I thought that "THIS" ace number one.

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The spitting image of the father of Luke Skywalker, the first to go over to the Dark Side, when, without consequences for himself, he broke the food warehouse in his youth ... now in the EU somewhere immortality comprehends ...

[RoTTor]

what to trifle? - The "ghost" was composed of fifty shot down, and he himself, after he was shot down, immediately transferred to ... the American eroplane took off and immediately shot down.
Storytellers ...

[Servisinzhener]

Earlier it was reported that he and several other Ukrainian military pilots are preparing to learn how to pilot American-made fighters. It was about the F-16 combat aircraft, which Kyiv so wants to get at its disposal.

Will it come to this? And which F-16s will be given to Ukraine. F-16s are very different, from modern Block 60s to those that have been at Davis-Monten airbase for decades.

[Carlos Hall]

The US and its satellites will even send F35s with their own pilots. They will send them if Russia does not take a decisive step. And this step is to send the most dangerous weapons, including nuclear weapons, to allied countries. The solution is very simple, either they stop supplying weapons, or Russia sends, for example, advanced nuclear and missile technologies to Korea. Take this step, and the problem will be solved, you'll see.

[Servisinzhener]

Such a scenario cannot be ruled out.
And it is really necessary to get out of the UN sanctions on the DPRK. In the current situation, this would be a smart move.

[Carlos Hall]

If Russia takes such a step, the problem with the supply of weapons to Ukraine will immediately disappear.

[duschman80-81]

Details of the death of the "best pilot of Ukraine" are not given.

Flew off, shenevmerlik, better late than never. The earth is glassy to him.

[Shaman]

The ghost of Kiev is a collective image of hallucinations, sniffers and vein chasers.

[Carlos Hall]

Confirmado. Lo que no se sabe es qué caza voló en el caso de un piloto de élite, ¿quizás un Su-27?

[16112014nk]

"Falling, falling, falling, falling leaves".... ©

[Russian guy]

All fascists go to hell sooner or later

[Russian guy]

Quote: Phil77

Patriotic! But for some reason my grandfather is in my memory. He fought. Captivity. He fought again.

Why so shamefully lost World War II? How did you fight!

[esl462]

Was it not his father who served in the 114th Iap...

[Incvizitor]

It is necessary to demolish his cross and put a public toilet there.

[K-50]

"ghost of Kyiv" - supposedly a certain collective image of the Ukrainian pilot.

On the basis of Russophobia, they have not yet collected something.

[mad big]

Autumn is coming, the leaf has fallen.

[GAndr]

what a disgusting face...(c)

[Yaro Polk]

It's better to "knock this one down"

[Yaro Polk]

In a Soviet helmet...in a Soviet plane)

[mad big]

I also noticed. Neighing.

[cooper]

One less Ukronazi creature...

[Fizik13]

We were talking about F-16 combat aircraft, which Kyiv so wants to get at its disposal.

The dill’s wish list hasn’t grown, give them an F-16. Look, South Korea still uses the F-4 (one recently crashed) and no matter what, they put up with it, they stand in line for the F-35. So, the F-4 mattress covers will be removed from storage in Arizona, painted with state-of-the-art paint, and there will be another flying coffin for the few remaining Ukrainian pilots.

[VBH]

Thank you. For the sake of such comments, I started reading VO in the spring. I wanted to delve into what was happening and listen to competent people, but lately there hasn’t been much to read in the comments: a continuous fountain of emotions, schadenfreude and mischief. Yes, yes, no one was waiting for me here and no one would notice my departure. But it’s a pity that the military forum turned into a flood. Thank you for your comment.

[Normann]

It can not be)

[mmaxx]

The one that doesn’t recline is immediately the best. One is better than the other. Now this one is the best. For us.

[tolik tolik]

I'm not very interested in leaf fall. I wonder when our little brothers-atamans will bring Ze’s head to the king in a potato sack in the best traditions of their younger brothers, or bring it to the extreme in a cage on chains.

[Architect]

Quote: svp67

They do not have the Order of Courage, but they have "For Courage" ...

"For sodomy"

[Cut Samshitov]

"The Ghost of Kuev" sounds scarier than "Elusive Joe"...

[Yuri Veselov]

Antoshka... flew away... tweeted...

[Arabfun]

Ukrainian is a profession, quit if you deserve a better job

[Tarasios]

“We would like to remind you that earlier in Ukraine the myth about the “ghost of Kyiv” was actively promoted, which allegedly shot down almost 30 Russian planes in air battles. Then it turned out that nothing like that happened, and the “ghost of Kyiv” is supposedly some kind of collective image of a Ukrainian pilot "
Two or three weeks ago I saw in UkroSMI a series of enthusiastic “testimonies” about a fighter who shoots down two or three Russian aircraft a day with MANPADS of different models. Of course, no photographs, no last name, or even the approximate region of the “hunting grounds” of this Uber fighter were mentioned. You just have to believe, you understand.. ;) But this topic has calmed down. Perhaps - “the magicians have passed away” ;)
And a month before that, there were attempts to inflate an epic about a simple infantryman who mowed down enemies in batches with almost one sapper...
We are waiting for new comics about superheroes...