The first batch of Slovak self-propelled guns Zuzana-2 arrived in Ukraine

Slovak self-propelled howitzers Zuzana-2 will join the attack on Russian troops in the Donbass, Kyiv received the first batch of self-propelled guns promised by Bratislava. This is reported by the Slovak media with reference to the statement of the Minister of Defense of the country Yaroslav Nagy.

Slovakia reportedly handed over to Ukraine the first four Zuzana-2 self-propelled howitzers, they are already on Ukrainian territory, and four more Slovaks promise to transfer in the "foreseeable future." In total, Bratislava announced plans to transfer eight wheeled self-propelled guns. The Ministry of Defense of the Republic refused to name any specific dates. Earlier, Slovak Defense Minister Yaroslav Nagy said that part of the self-propelled guns would be delivered almost immediately, and part after some time, up to several months. Such a spread is due to the fact that howitzers of a new production will be delivered to Ukraine.

Kyiv confirmed the receipt of four self-propelled howitzers, reportedly the seventh type of NATO-standard artillery that entered service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine after the M109, CAESAR, KRAB, M777, FH-70 and Panzerhaubitz 2000. The equipment was delivered from Slovakia to Poland on car trailers, as there was a delivery to Ukraine and when, there is no information.

Wheeled self-propelled guns Zuzana 2 is produced by Konštrukta-Defence. The 155-mm howitzer is based on the new Tatra T 815-7 chassis, the turret has the 3rd level of protection according to the STANAG 4569 standard (withstands a 155-mm projectile at a distance of 60 m), the firing range is 30 km, the maximum is 41 km (actively - rocket projectile). It is in service with the Slovak Armed Forces.

Also, Slovakia is transferring MiG-29 fighters from the Republic's Air Force to Ukraine, this was already reported by "Military Review" in one of its news materials. In total, 12 Soviet-made fighters were in service with Slovakia.

Comments

[Nexcom]

just as the Nazis were supported during the Second World War, nothing has changed with the Slovaks since then .... henpecked Nazis and the USA

[The black]

Today Russia is confronted by NATO, the collective West. And the answers must be sophisticated painful and tough. The United States and its satellites are simply mocking: supplying weapons, tracking down, pointing and saying that they have nothing to do with it. And Russia pretends to believe them! They watch the reaction and, not seeing the corresponding reaction, go further and further.

[Murmur 55]

The black , your words about sophisticated and painful but in the right ears in the Kremlin.

[Nexcom]

Well, in the news they write the commander of the Black Sea Fleet was removed. probably still drew conclusions from what happened if they were removed from office. the truth is, the question is - will the new appointee be better?

[Dingo]

Where is the old one? Midshipman in the Arctic?

[seregatara1969]

Will command the fleet on Baikal

[Shurik70]

According to rumors, the new commander of the Black Sea Fleet is Admiral Viktor Sokolov.
The one who commanded the Russian fleet in the Mediterranean when ISIS was destroyed in Syria.
The Slovak howitzer looks powerful in the photo.
It would be necessary to capture it for study.

[IVZ]

The Slovak howitzer looks powerful in the photo.
It would be necessary to capture it for study.

It is better to capture and use for shelling something interesting on the territory of Poland or another accomplice country. You can also verbalize the Ukrainian calculation. Let the naysayers figure it out.

[Shurik70]

Quote: IVZ

Better grab and use

155 mm - we don’t have enough such shells.
Yes, and we have enough art for 152 mm.
But to study the achievements of the enemy is necessary. Maybe they came up with something special.

[Vadim237]

This new self-propelled gun is a very serious weapon, automation in it is at a high level.

[Commander]

And this is not "Dana" for an hour?

[dmi.pris1]

This is a modernized Dana. Everyone knows about her. In the 80s, she was planned to be in the Soviet Army for armament. No advantages were found over the same "Acacia".

[Shurik70]

I quote:

howitzers of new production will be delivered to Ukraine

This means that something could be added.
New scopes for sure.
Perhaps - they changed the automatic guidance.
All this must be known.
Perhaps something to adopt yourself.
Write instructions for captured vehicles.

[Nexcom]

there was no information about where the old one would be sent

[lis-ik]

Quote: Dingo

Where is the old one? Midshipman in the Arctic?

They will probably appoint a vice-premier.

[iouris]

Quote: Dingo

Where is the old one?

Most likely in the GD.

[Ivan177]

for the most powerful missile cruiser Moscow, which simply "drowned" this "removal from office" to him as a New Year's gift! He should be judged for this with deprivation of shoulder straps, orders, medals!

Under the tsar-father until 1917. for this it was supposed to shoot, and not be removed from office!

[Center]

[seregatara1969]

Here in the Kremlin, just half of the government sold out to the West, and the second half sympathizes with those who have sold out and sabotages the FSE decisions of the Supreme. Gotta burn change

[Russian]

It’s already ridiculous to hear that everyone around is to blame, and our supreme one is white and fluffy. And who appoints all these people? Yes, without his knowledge, our bureaucrats are afraid to sneeze. So do not need these fairy tales about sabotage on the ground. Everyone knows everything perfectly and it means everything suits

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Murmur 55

The black , your words about sophisticated and painful but in the right ears in the Kremlin.

Didn't you think that the Russian authorities are doing the best they can?

[Murmur 55]

Aaron Zawi , no, I don’t think so, well, judging by the news from the open spaces.

[Aaron Zawi]

And you figure out what your leadership can really do. Perhaps it does the maximum.

[Santa Fe]

Today Russia is confronted by NATO, the collective West.

Russia is opposed by the armed forces of Ukraine, equipped with piece samples of Western weapons, with the world on a string

This sounds like the hard truth. If someone said six months ago that five Susan and a hundred towed 777s could create so many problems for the winners of tank biathlons, and even stop progress in a number of areas - he would be laughed at here in VO

20 Himars drive and fire in all directions - how about the "collective west" where the USA has 400 of these systems and more than M270 on a tracked chassis?

About reconnaissance, images from space and other "Bondian" - in my opinion, many people forget what war looks like. "Crossing-crossing cannons beat in pitch darkness"

For the time being not a single squadron or squadron of Western countries came to war

There is no need to write about the collective West, in fact, all of its military participation is the supply of cores for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And as the facts show, this is enough for the Ukrainians to put up quite serious resistance to the Russian Armed Forces

[The leader of the Redskins]

I announced the news about the transfer of ACS data by Slovakia yesterday.
Now, according to tradition, you need to wait for a short article with a reminder of its performance characteristics and an addition that the parameters and number of guns will not be able to make a radical change in the SVO.

[Sergey Nikiforov]

At least one objective comment

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Conclusion? To win it is necessary to destroy the Ukrainians? Or pity them (brothers - so through them so) and lose? Or maybe deliver a couple of strikes with tactical nuclear weapons? I don't mind, I'm interested in your opinion.

[Santa Fe]

Conclusion? To win you need

Let's start with the fact that no one knows what will be considered a victory.

There is no official consensus on this matter.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

For me, victory is the destruction of the Ukrainian state. Complete destruction. If this is not done, then the skakls will crap forever - such is their nature. I'll tell you more, even if we destroy the Ukrainian state and try to uproot their nationalists, they will still betray, of course not now, but in the next 50-70 years for sure. History confirms this, and it (history) is cyclical. Why do you need official? Do you have an opinion? Or maybe you are afraid not to guess the policy of the party? :)

[Santa Fe]

You are free to have any opinion, because the official point of view was not presented. The aims and intentions of those to whom the armed forces are subordinate remain unknown.

How realistic your proposals are can be assessed by the "gestures of goodwill" and the current pace of advancement of the RF Armed Forces

[iouris]

Firstly, not "Ukrainians", but the armed forces created and comprehensively trained by the United States and NATO, which are fighting not FOR Ukraine, but for the interests of the United States AGAINST Russia. For eight years of direct training, everything was calculated and it was believed that there were enough forces. But something went wrong.

[kravch67k]

The only question is who went wrong.

[iouris]

Everyone went wrong. But it's not about everyone, but about the ukrovermacht? After all, he had been preparing very intensively for an attack for eight years, but he did not achieve his goals and is in a disassembled state.
Or has it reached and is it already possible to hold a parade of victory? Well, go ahead. We will see.

[Vadim237]

The United States Himarsov and MLRS have almost 3000 installations + almost 8000 ATACMS missiles and no less than 700 M777 and the same 155mm Excalibur shells produced tens of thousands of units - if the United States transfers even a tenth of the APU from all this, our grouping along the entire front line will begin a real ass and the fact that the United States can easily transfer this amount is beyond doubt.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vadim237

the same 155mm Excalibur shells produced tens of thousands of units

You can't argue here. But why, in 8 years after 2014, neither Armat nor Krasnopol? There are only a few lancets, no communication, medicine too, teplakov, nightlights too.
Who is to blame Vadik, and what to do? Simple questions leading to simple and obvious answers.
P.S. There are calibers, you can’t argue here, but they can’t solve all the problems.

[bashkir]

"If someone had said six months ago that five Susans and a hundred towed 777s could create so many problems for the winners of tank biathlons, and even stop progress in a number of directions, they would have laughed at him at VO"

I don't understand why you are upvoted. You need to put minuses !!!

What is delivered by the West does not cause problems "for the winners of tank biathlons." Our army has no problems. If ukrobandits fought exclusively with the military. But many artillery systems are used to strike at civilian targets. We have to disperse our forces. Protect hydroelectric and nuclear power plants, protect cities, towns and many other non-military facilities. Protect people first!
"So far, not a single squadron or squadron of Western countries has come to the war" - Are you sure you are from Russia?
These gentlemen won't show up, because it's sickly. And if they did, then there are means to spoil their mood.

"There is no need to write about the collective West, in fact, all of its military participation is the supply of cores for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And as the facts show, this is enough for the Ukrainians to be able to put up quite serious resistance to the Russian Armed Forces" - I.e. do you think that if they put "non-bites", then the Armed Forces of Ukraine would immediately pile on Russia? Another question. Who writes this about the collective West? Let's do it again. Who provides financial assistance to Ukraine? Who provides military assistance? Volunteers are fighting for Ukraine. Did they just come from Georgia?
Minus you from me legitimate. Protect yourself!

[Santa Fe]

Protect hydroelectric and nuclear power plants, protect cities, towns and many other non-military facilities. Protect people first!

The Ukrobandits could not inflict a decisive defeat in six months, the front froze 10 km from Donetsk.
The northern regions were left voluntarily - significant reserves should be released, it is no longer required to protect people in the Sumy, Kyiv and Chernihiv regions

Do you think that if they put "non-bites", then the Armed Forces of Ukraine would immediately pile on Russia?

If one of the opponents is better prepared and equipped, he will pile on the other; This is a war and it is not won with the help of slogans, desires and wishes.

Who provides financial assistance to Ukraine? Who provides military assistance? Volunteers are fighting for Ukraine.

To be honest, to compare volumes of military assistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine - with what is in combat composition and stored in military warehouses in the USA and Europe, then the "collective West" does not want to allow the strengthening of the Armed Forces of Ukraine beyond what is, fearing drastic changes at the front.

If 4% of the Himars installations available in the west (20 out of 500 units) transferred to Ukarina, even without long-range missiles, were taken out by Zmeiny, so many warehouses along the front line, leaving the group of troops near Kherson on the right bank without supplies - what would happen if Ukraine handed over fifty such systems?

Another HIMARS strike on the Antonovsky bridge, last night

[bashkir]

"Ukrobandits could not inflict a decisive defeat in six months, the front froze 10 km from Donetsk"
It's amazing how one fact can distort the whole picture). Have you forgotten about the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions? How many miles have been covered there? And they correctly noted about the decisive defeat, they did not inflict. And why? Because with small forces we grind the superior forces of the enemy. Superior! It is a fact. 300 allied forces are at war with a grouping that is twice as large as ours. Seriously, we didn't even start fighting.

"If we honestly compare the volume of military assistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine - with what is in combat strength and stored in military warehouses in the United States and Europe, then the" collective West "does not want to allow the strengthening of the Armed Forces of Ukraine beyond what is, fearing drastic changes at the front"

This is where it sounds funny at all))))) Is this why the West does not want to allow the strengthening of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and is afraid of drastic changes at the front? On the contrary, it's obvious. If Khokhlostan begins to push our people, we will have to use more forces and means. There will be more losses on both sides, and this is what the Western "colleagues" are striving for.

About Serpentine, too, you "exaggerated" a little). Ours left the island before the delivery of Himars installations. And no one kicked us out of there. There is no need to cling to this piece of rock in the sea. Warships will get the enemy anyway, and anywhere in Ukraine.

[Dingo]

Personally, I express extreme concern about the actions of the Slovak authorities!
Why not? How does my personal concern differ (especially in terms of the result) from the "concerns" of the "Kremlin"? ("Solntsevsky" violet, as well as "Tambov").

[Stas157]

Quote: Dingo

How does my personal concern differ (especially in terms of the result) from the "concerns" of the "Kremlin"?

If the concern is not accompanied by real action to correct the situation, then it looks like just a helpless complaint.

[donavi49]

opposes NATO, the collective West

So far very slow. If you take the United States, then they supply less than 0,5% of what they can. Not a single Abrams, not a single M198 gun, not a single M109 self-propelled gun, not a single American Peony (M107) left the Sierra Nevada. They are only going to train on the F-16 from September.

The European flank is fought by the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Latvia-Lithuania-Estonia, a little France, Norway and Great Britain. The rest are more helpful. For example, if the Germans sent 100-120 M109 from storage, and not 8 Pz2000, the effect would be many times greater.

[iouris]

If you use nuclear weapons, the effect will be "even more" than at times.
You need to think what you think, and especially what you say.

[donavi49]

But the Ministry of Foreign Affairs recently (August 3) once again said - there will be NO nuclear weapons!
Foreign Ministry ruled out the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine

None of the hypothetical scenarios for the use of nuclear weapons by Russia is relevant to the situation in Ukraine, and the accusations of this against the Russian leadership are unscrupulous.


I translate - any deliveries will not lead to a nuclear war.

I repeat - mass deliveries of 155 of the type M198 / M109 / French guns, etc. they will cause much, much more problems than the supply of all kinds of wunderwaffle 2000 but to an incomplete division.

[iouris]

Quote: donavi49

Foreign Ministry ruled out the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs does not use tactical nuclear weapons at all. Besides, he never guessed. Now the place of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is in the blue eye, with Solovyov. And diplomats must correct their mistakes at the front. From the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, a huge BTG would have turned out with nurses.

[Negro]

Quote: donavi49

The rest are more helpful. For example, if the Germans sent 100-120 M109 from storage, and not 8 Pz2000, the effect would be many times greater.

From the places they write that no, the situation is somewhat more complicated. The rear cannot even feed the existing number of barrels with shells. Moreover, the problem is more likely on the Ukrainian side, and not on the western side: for the same axes, Joe sent exactly as many shells as needed to completely shoot all the trunks.

[Freeman2022]

Quote: Black

And the answers must be sophisticated painful and tough.

It is necessary to turn off the gas in the winter and that's it !!!!

[max702]

30% of all German weapons were produced in Czechoslovakia and at the same time there was not a SINGLE case of sabotage, even in Germany there were such, but in Czechoslovakia there were none .. Do not the Czechoslovaks want to answer for 30% of the dead citizens of the USSR? Look, Israel is still paying Nemchura with much smaller quantitative losses ... And yes, the Czechoslovaks shipped the last repaired Wehrmacht tank on May 5, 1945 ..

[Magic archer]

As I understand it, the recently shot down Mig 29 is just Slovak. Well, well. The same fate awaits these self-propelled guns.

[Nexcom]

what is there to study? standard prodigy according to NATO standards.
firing range is not particularly impressive. although maybe our engineers will peep if a trophy one comes across. it is still unknown how the Svidomo will use it - the German ones broke down at the Svidomo quickly enough.

PS When will their aviation end? Well, not an infinite number of Soviet Litaks from all these former members of the Warsaw Pact. they must end someday.

[AdAstra]

As I understand it, you will personally capture Comrade "Major General"?

[Murmur 55]

Not what, they want and supply, what will they get from Moscow for that? The expression of concern and inadmissibility is purple for them. But if you don’t deliver, then Washington will make an ata-ta. So everyone who is not too lazy to drive weapons that kill our fighters will get it, but in the Kremlin they can’t do anything about it.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Murmur 55

Not what, they want and supply, what will they get from Moscow for that? The expression of concern and inadmissibility is purple for them. But if you don’t deliver, then Washington will make an ata-ta. So everyone who is not too lazy to drive weapons that kill our fighters will get it, but in the Kremlin they can’t do anything about it.

And what could the United States do with the supply of weapons from Russia to Syria?

[Murmur 55]

Aaron Zaavi, did they need it? If the United States needed them, they even blocked S.P. - 2, although the Germans would not get bad from this. And with Syria, under the "aggression" of Russia and the "dictator" Assad, the Americans supported THEIR opposition and squeezed out the oil fields, and even little things, the US "friend" Erdogan also snatched a piece for himself and everyone seems to be happy, but the fact that ours are banned there it’s not the citizens of the United States who killed them, it’s not a pity for them, if necessary, Washington still rivets.

[novel66]

why should they do something in Syria? they shouldn't be there at all.

[Negro]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

And what could the United States do with the supply of weapons from Russia to Syria?

Anything. Just like Israel, by the way. But they did not consider it necessary to dirty their hands.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Negro

Quote: Aron Zaavi

And what could the United States do with the supply of weapons from Russia to Syria?

Anything. Just like Israel, by the way. But they did not consider it necessary to dirty their hands.

No. Could they have done it.

[Negro]

You are confusing "military opportunity" and "political expediency". From a military point of view, the IDF will crush anyone on this theater. But this does not mean that she will definitely receive such an order.

This is the difference from the Ukrainian situation. The Russian Federation has no military ability to influence the supply.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Negro

You are confusing "military opportunity" and "political expediency". From a military point of view, the IDF will crush anyone on this theater. But this does not mean that she will definitely receive such an order.

This is the difference from the Ukrainian situation. The Russian Federation has no military ability to influence the supply.

Not only this. Any action creates a reaction. Here, analysts calculate which action will result in less return.

[mad big]

Good machine.

[tihonmarine]

Kyiv received the first batch of self-propelled guns promised by Bratislava.

In vain they liberated the Czech Republic and Slovakia (one of my uncles died there), it was better to leave the "half-wit", or storm and occupy for 200 years.

[bouncyhunter]

As G.K. Zhukov said:
"We freed them. And they won't forgive us for that."

[Negro]

Quote: tihonmarine

In vain the Czech Republic and Slovakia were liberated

Yes, in the Czech Republic we fully agree with you. And they are expressed much stronger than "in vain". There Patton was literally an hour away from Prague. The Czechs are out of luck.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Negro

Yes, in the Czech Republic we fully agree with you.

And who is not in vain, I do not see such, except for Serbia.

[Negro]

Quote: tihonmarine

And who is not in vain, I do not see such, except for Serbia.

How interesting it must have been. However, the same French cannot stand the Americans - in general they were forced to control themselves, but in particular they constantly threw out tricks.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Negro

How interesting it must have been.

For this, there was WWI and WWII,

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

The first batch of Slovak self-propelled guns Zuzana-2 arrived in Ukraine

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[Egoza]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

The Verkhovna Rada banned the symbols Z and V in Ukraine...

They made me laugh. Especially V..!!! And how then will the Ukrainian "warriors" express Victory with gestures? ))) Yes, and foreign mercenaries will not understand! We must also tell them that the letters X and Y are also very popular on both sides! ))) Let them ban it.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Egoza

And how then will the Ukrainian "warriors" express Victory with gestures?

Only there is a version that this is not a victory at all. And the French cut off the fingers of the English archers. So the British showed them uncut fingers. Like, here are the frogs for you, bite ...

[Murmur 55]

Mordvin 3 , is it a hedgehog to show the "front" side of the brush, and if from the side of the palm, then it's like the hippies came up with it and means the world is a brother (well, like a version).

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Murmur 55

Is it a hedgehog to show the "front" side of the brush, and if from the side of the palm, then it's like hippies came up with and means peace brother (

Disagree. An open palm means that I came to you in peace. But the world, it is different. Watch a movie with Lungrend: "I come in peace."

[Murmur 55]

Mordvin 3, I also agree, Ukrainians in 14-15 years old also equipped "friendship" trains. But in a coffin and in white slippers I saw such friendship.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Murmur 55

Ukrainians in 14-15 years also equipped "friendship" trains.

And we equipped. I remember some American figure put it in the sink, so our guide marked him off.

[forty-eighth]

For the British, it matters which side you show your fingers.
If with nails, then this is just about the whole fingers of English archers. Like "now you get me ..".
And if with pads, then this is about victory. Or just two, depending on the context.

[Ros 56]

Duc, how then to use English without them ???

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Ros 56

Duc, then how to use English without them?

Yes. Somehow I heard the story. A German sits on an airplane and speaks German. The dispatcher says to him, speak English. The German was outraged. "I'm sitting at the controls of a German plane, the German sky is above us, why the hell should I speak English?"

[Nexcom]

Aeroflot used to require its pilots to communicate in English even when flying over Russian territory. It used to be. Now I do not know.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Nexcom

Aeroflot used to require its pilots to communicate in English even when flying over Russian territory.

That's it. Now the patriots are modestly keeping quiet about this.

[Nexcom]

IMHO, it's not about patriotism. At that time, Aeroflot almost all flights abroad were under itself and worked according to international rules. , flight cancellations have begun, etc.
This is how unfair competition was. I myself got so a couple of times with TransAero ....
And Aeroflot mowed down under an international company, and therefore applied the requirements for its pilots from ICAO - and there the crews even have to conduct in-cabin negotiations in English.
This is how it is with Aeroflot now - I don’t know, they now have almost no foreign flights due to sanctions.

[kind]

Shut off the gas of Slovakia until they take back their weapons and stop deliveries to the Ukrofascists. Right now it's just before winter.

[Nexcom]

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to cover...

[Murmur 55]

Nexcom , on the contrary, at the first desire from the Czech Republic, our corporations will increase supplies, as they say money in hand, there will be sounds.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Murmur 55

at the first desire from the Czech Republic, our corporations will increase supplies,

Supplies of what? I remember Java and Chezet motorcycles. And ours supplied them with Niva. What can we deliver to them today? Gas pipe, and all?

[Andrey Moskvin]

The same "Niva". They are loved even in Germany.

[Nexcom]

What for? They will do without our products - they will do it themselves.
Let the Germans buy BU.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

They are loved even in Germany.

They are loved everywhere. A very successful design. The USSR sold them to one hundred and five countries of the world.

[Andrey Moskvin]

I read that the Germans have Niva clubs. Not the Japanese, not their own or the US, but the Soviet automobile industry. And it seems to cost $ 4000 in total.

[Mordvin 3]

[quote = Andrey Moskvin] I read that the Germans have clubs of Niva lovers. Not the Japanese, not their own or the US, but the Soviet automobile industry. [/quotemost]
These clubs of fans of Niva and Shvetsmm are available.
And even the richest Englishman on the Niva rolls.

[Slon_on]

Regarding the unimpeded delivery of these howitzers, one could snicker, like "sho, again ?!", but to be honest, it's not funny. We are talking about the lives of our boys, civilians, the safety of energy facilities. The question arises why, in the conditions of the declared superiority in the air, this happens - these "sheds" are impudently driven on trailers?

[Murmur 55]

Slon_on , now they will write to you about an extensive network of roads, and it’s not purely physical that it’s impossible to block them all, about the fact that these Zuzans are generally like weapons, well, so-so sample, that there are few of them, and so on, that it’s POSSIBLE that they will be destroyed in transshipment or in a hangar and that in general, take a machine gun and go to the front, they say, show them how they should be destroyed, wait.

[hell machine]

The entire infrastructure of Ukraine is intact and therefore they can safely carry at least thousands of tons of weapons daily.
The Americans there will probably get tired of our pot-bellied generals who do nothing with the logistics of the All-In-One. How many thousands of years ago the military leaders knew that they needed to cut the supply routes (although then it was more about food / food)

[Andrey Moskvin]

So on the trailers! Now, if by air, then we, with our superiority ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

So on the trailers! Now, if by air, then we, with our superiority ...

Ahh... so we have air superiority...

[Ros 56]

Well, who was worried about the brothers of the Slavs, here they are, ODAB-9000 on their heads, maybe they will grow wiser.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Ros 56

Well, who was worried about the brothers of the Slavs, here they are, ODAB-9000 on their heads, maybe they will grow wiser.

Well, I was worried. Just don’t throw any things on my head, I have one head.

[Ros 56]

He himself chose where to go, so he would have to substitute his head for the sake of such brothers. How is it with the Khokhov - bachil eyes, sho kupovaly .....

[Mordvin 3]

And what, I do not need to worry about the brothers-Slavs?

[Ros 56]

I somehow worry more about my children, grandchildren, my relatives, my friends, but I don’t need these Slovaks and Bulgarians.

[Caruso]

Will you throw ODAB from a catapult?

[Fizik13]

In 1939, the whole of Europe helped the Finns, but what's the point of it!
I hope that our government, after the successful completion of the SVO, will draw organizational conclusions regarding our "friends" - psheks, panyas, tribalts, etc.

[donavi49]

In 1939, the whole of Europe helped the Finns, but what's the point of it!

A strategic sense, which cost huge losses in the future. In short, when a peaceful exchange did not work out, the stakes were on a military operation, to crush Finland, to put in their Kuusinen government, with which they immediately signed agreements on recognition and friendship.

The total plan is to quickly crush the Finns, return them, if not to their native harbor, then make them a union state.

As it turned out, the sturgeon was seriously cut down territorially, and Kuusinen was completely forgotten. Immediately after, Finland became an ally of Hitler and after 1,5 years went for revenge, providing the northern front of the blockade of Leningrad (albeit incomplete).

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: donavi49

providing the northern face of the blockade of Leningrad (albeit incomplete).

Yes. But they didn’t do shit there, they sat and sheathed their knives.

[donavi49]

They did enough to cut all land corridors from the north into Karelia. Also seriously reduced the possibility of transportation on the lake. They also pulled quite a lot of troops.

[Andrey Moskvin]

It was they who riveted from aircraft shot down from aluminum.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

It was they who riveted from aircraft shot down from aluminum.

I know it.

[Negro]

Quote: donavi49

In 1939, the whole of Europe helped the Finns, but what's the point of it!

Well, let's start with the fact that it's just a lie. There alone, a great friend of the USSR helped isolate Finland and occupied her allies with more important matters. In fact, help was only from Sweden.

And secondly, the Finns themselves did a good job. Even beyond all expectations. They impressed one great friend of the USSR there so much that he ceased to be a friend of the USSR - for a lot of reasons, but for this one too.

By the way, suddenly thought. And how is Russia's great friend Comrade Xi doing? How is he doing in general?

[Pilgrim85]

This is where the true goals of NATO are revealed. Western PMCs are already working hard in the countries of the former Warsaw Pact and not only. Grouping and deliveries can be increased depending on financial injections, i.e. practically unlimited.

[Cut Samshitov]

And the "brothers" Bulgarians supply weapons secretly. They are "brothers", they are shy. Each time the epic with the "fraternal" peoples goes according to one scenario - officials go for free to the "brothers" to eat and drink deliciously, the Russian people pay for it, then the "brothers" call us "occupiers". And it has been going on since the 19th century. May be enough?

[Nexcom]

The Serbs also chemist before. LDNR members discovered ammunition for Soviet weapons of Serbian production. No, I do not want to say that they directly supplied. Most likely through the entire gasket.

PS I work and communicate with a Serbian - she constantly asks how we are here. And he reports that they are carrying Western channels - according to them, we have a collapse of everything here: there is nothing to eat, everything has stopped, in general, "the collapse of the Russian tambourine" (c)

[cniza]

The equipment was delivered from Slovakia to Poland on car trailers, there is no information about how the delivery to Ukraine took place and when.

Maybe it's time, the delivery infrastructure, to take aim and destroy ...

[Ural_engineer]

The number of the trawl would not be blurred in the photo for a start. Or drivers are afraid of their "heroic work". What if they get rewarded?

[Revolver]

These are the "Slav brothers" for you.

[Nexcom]

Forget brotherhood. He didn’t exist and didn’t exist - there was an interest in receiving various nishtyaki from the USSR for free. Including currency. Instead - socialism and the Communist Party as the only correct attributes of development in the course of policy needed by the USSR.

[infantrefir]

In the USSR, several batteries were re-equipped with the predecessor of "Suzanne" "Dana". Either an experiment or tried on. "Danas" remained in the Transcaucasian District and then in 08.2008 went to Russia as trophies. So the officers said that during the exercises, having passed 200 km behind the tanks, the "Danas" became. Were cut off all the hydraulic hoses on the bottom. Maybe something else, but alas, I can’t remember for years.

[Nexcom]

Duc and nafika they far to go? The whole of Czechoslovakia is small. I think that long marches were not constructively included in these Danes. Already on Russian roads - for sure.

[Negro]

Quote from: Infantrefir

In the USSR, several batteries were re-equipped with the predecessor of "Suzanne" "Dana". Either an experiment or tried on

There was interest in wheeled chassis. They came to the logical conclusion that for joint operations with tanks, vehicles on a tank chassis are needed.

But now artillery works without a connection with tanks, so the wheeled chassis reveals its advantages.

[Owl]

More protected than the Caesars and "Three Axes" from fragments of artillery shells, this gives it some advantage in the conditions of counter-battery combat. This means that it is necessary to hammer with direct hits of guided weapons, both artillery and aviation.

[iouris]

Everything for the front, everything for the victory.

[AdAstra]

What everyday news - calm arrived. And then we will heroically chase after them and pick one at a time. Genius tactic. I understand that we never learn from anything, but not that much.

[alexey alexeyev_2]

What can I say .. The goal is of course fat

[elbrus]

at the same time, the Slovaks receive oil through "friendship". nothing personal, just business

[IVZ]

Quote from commandante

And this is not "Dana" for an hour?

No. Rather, its conceptual development plus adjustment to NATO standards.

[TatarinSSSR]

There is a test of Western military equipment in combat operations in the European theater. Ukraine is a training ground where everything is there, from the sea coast, and fields, and forests, and mountains, and hills. Ideal polygon. For Russia, this is also a kind of training ground. And not only for military vehicles and equipment. This is also an opportunity to train the military, from an infantryman to an army general, in combat operations in this theater of operations, this is a unique experience, after which the Russian contract army unit will become the most combat-ready and experienced in Eurasia. In addition, not only ukrotroys and equipment are being demilitarized, the most combat-ready part of the Ukrainian military is being ground down and will continue to be destroyed in the next six months. That is, minus one of the strongest ground armies of the West at our borders by next summer.

[kravch67k]

Well, you just trained everyone. But they forgot that they eventually died on both sides.

[TatarinSSSR]

Well, excuse me, NWO is not to throw tomatoes at each other. Losses in combat operations are inevitable. Especially when the enemy has a serious advantage in terms of ground personnel and sits on the defensive on the supply of a dozen countries. But thanks to this experience and taking into account mistakes, there is a serious reason for the headquarters to draw conclusions and minimize them in the future.

[kravch67k]

Those. You directly say that someone likes to play soldiers ...

[TatarinSSSR]

The army of such a huge country with a huge reserve of natural resources needs combat capability and participation in wars. For there are enough people in the world who want to take away a part of all this. And only in real combat operations is experience gained both on the battlefield and in headquarters, in logistics, communications, in the concept of weapons and their development. No teachings will give such experience and development. Yes, I'm saying it straight out - the army should be able to fight, and not just show parades and army games.

[iouris]

Here she is fighting. Moreover, it is said that wars last for years (if not more). Russian-Turkish, Russian-Persian wars also lasted a long time. And nothing.
If you want peace, fight constantly. Such is the motto. And because preparing for war is somehow not very successful.

[TatarinSSSR]

I agree ... No wonder we have a proverb - until the thunder breaks out, the peasant will not cross himself. This is our national

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

And only in real combat operations is experience gained both on the battlefield and in headquarters,

What if we didn't have that much experience?

[TatarinSSSR]

Name me the military operations of such a scale over the past 5 years at least in Europe with our direct participation?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

Name me the military operations of such a scale over the past 5 years at least in Europe with our direct participation?

Eco you turned down. And why not for the last 300 years? Or do we have to fight every five years? What would our generals not forget the experience? Do they have sclerosis of the brain without exception? Or did you smoke history books around the corner?

[TatarinSSSR]

Progress in science and technology, materials, methods of warfare, intelligence, communications, inform. counteraction, etc. develops in 7 mile steps. And even in 5 years, a lot has changed. And if you do not realize these truths, then there is no point in discussing further. Let everyone have their own opinion.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

And if you do not realize these truths, then there is no point in discussing further.

I realize that. But why the General Staff is not aware, I do not understand. As one smart man said, the generals are preparing in the previous war. And then they fuck up and scratch their turnips under their caps.

[TatarinSSSR]

I myself ask myself this question ... Apparently a peaceful life with family vacations in Thailand, a general's house in an elite suburb of Moscow and official Maibehi do not allow thoughts about the future to develop.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

Apparently a peaceful life with family vacations in Thailand, a Gegeral house in an elite suburb of Moscow, and official Maybehi do not allow thoughts about the future to develop.

So transplant them into Khrushchev! And to be honest, the only general whom I respected from the USSR was Marshal Akhromeev. And then, the Strict Dwarf was shot.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Quote: Santa Fe

You are free to have any opinion, because the official point of view was not presented. The aims and intentions of those to whom the armed forces are subordinate remain unknown.

It seems to me that the leadership wants to leave some room for maneuver, because it is not a joke to fight against the collective West. In the Second World War, many also wondered whether we would stop at the border of the USSR. Have patience - time will tell. And even if we stay approximately at the borders where we are now... well, unpleasant, but not fatal, it's still in the black. The history of mankind is the history of wars - there will be more wars in which we will win unconditionally.

Quote: Santa Fe

How realistic your proposals are can be assessed by the "gestures of goodwill" and the current pace of advancement of the RF Armed Forces

Politics ... I have already said that absolutely any politician is a very bad person a priori, this is their essence. And if it is necessary to destroy a million people for the sake of some kind of winning position in the negotiations ... they will do it and not think about it. So how about strikes with tactical nuclear weapons? You never answered.

[Zadok]

Museum in Kubinka claps his hands. what is not a day - a new exhibit