Lies kill the people and the state. Why Ukraine is fighting in a different reality

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If you watch Ukrainian television, listen to interviews with Ukrainians, talk with citizens of Ukraine on social networks, you get a feeling of some kind of unreality of what is happening. The NVO of Russia and the Ukrainian war are completely different, unrelated events.

No, settlements, names of military units, names of commanders and chiefs, and so on, are the same. But what is happening, who is killing civilians, who is mocking prisoners, who is threatening the world with a nuclear catastrophe, how ordinary people treat the army, is completely opposite.



Even more hatred. Burning hatred, which shows through in every word, contorts the face of the speaker, prevents him from expressing his thoughts in human language. Hatred for everything Russian and for all Russians. “Kill everyone, there are no good Russians!” Moreover, Zelensky's statement that there are no good Russians has become a dogma for the majority.

How quickly a Jew who became Ukrainian president turned into a terrible parody of Hitler. Literally the same words, only the word "Jew" is replaced by the word "Russian". I remember Hitler's words. And I remember how it ended for the Jewish people. Ukrainians today, for the most part, are Germans of the 30s and 40s, zigging for Adolf Hitler.

"A Jew speaks in order to hide his thoughts."

"Jews will never voluntarily give up their aspirations for world dictatorship."

"The first thing we need to do is save [Germany] from the Jews who rule our country."

Yes, there are people in Ukraine who really appreciate the role of Russia in the creation and preservation of the Ukrainian state, and Ukrainians as a nation. But they are catastrophically few. The Zelensky regime is just another stage in the formation of anti-Russians, which began more than 30 years ago. Such people are killed, they disappear into obscurity after communicating with nationalists. They hid.

You look at such a patriot and you understand that Ukraine is already living in a different time. Only not in the future, but in the past. Educated, kind and cheerful people surprisingly quickly returned to the Middle Ages. They talk with laughter about the torture of Russian soldiers, show photos of corpses, laugh at some catastrophe in our country. Like once those crowds of people who gathered to watch how they would cut off the head of another rebel.

I already wrote that I have long been looking for an answer to the question of what we will do with these people after their release. Dehumanized people! Yes, normal people cause indignation, contempt, disgust. Yes, we can't believe that they are like that, that they won't change. We think about those Soviet Ukrainians and do not want to see them modern.

Are you not surprised by the persistence of the fairy tale about the toilets that Russian soldiers stole from Ukrainians and sent home? Through one I hear this bike. Even came up with a killer question in response. Why do we need a toilet if no one in Russia knows how to use it? If there is no running water? If there is no sewer?

Ukraine, as a civilized and progressive state, which is forced to coexist with the state of savages, drunkards, thieves, murderers and parasites. It is this idea that is deeply ingrained in the heads of Ukrainians. They really think so. They are convinced that this is indeed the case. All arguments against them are just Putin's propaganda.

They really talk about Zelensky as the best president of Ukraine. They are ready to support him in everything. They believe that this person is the "messiah" who will pull the country into the ranks of the advanced countries of the world. A poorly educated mass of superhumans who, in order to be completely happy, need to destroy their neighbor. Doesn't it remind you of anything?

War in another reality


Have you ever wondered why it bombs the Ukrainians so much our usual “to Ukraine”? Why are we taught the “correct” Russian language from young to old? Do not believe it, but one interlocutor answered this question for me. It turns out that "the Russians go to visit, but to war"! Like this. For many centuries, our ancestors "fought" with the Ukrainians! And we fought when we went to visit friends in Ukraine! And this is an axiom for many Ukrainians.

And one more axiom. So paradoxical that it does not even cause confusion. Just the feeling that you are talking to a mentally ill person, for whom the concept of "logic" simply does not exist. Ukrainians never lose a battle. They either hold back and destroy the “hordes of orcs”, and then carefully retreat, or deliberately misinform the enemy in order to lure him into another, and judging by the results, the first boiler.

Recall the recent statements by Kyiv about the attack on Kherson and Crimea. Who just did not talk about the counteroffensive, which is about to begin. We understood that Zelensky and the company needed to somehow be distracted from the events in Mariupol, from the capture of Azov.

It would seem, how can people be made to forget about these events? It turned out it was possible. Moreover, today half of the interlocutors do not believe at all that there was a surrender! Again, "the propagandist Solovyov is zombifying you." And Mariupol ukrovoiny handed over on purpose. To lure the allied units and prevent them from concentrating in the south. Prepare for a counterattack!

At the end of July, Arestovich explained the situation very artistically. The bastard gourmet spoke about how the APU warriors will "lunch" with Russian units and units. I remember how all these stories about the offensive were even passed off as a new word in military science. And even in the Western media.

“All this in the aggregate, even to a non-military person, signals something very concretely. It signals that we are preparing this “cutlet” for cutting and eating.

Or another example from the recent past, directly related to the first one. Million army of Ukraine! Remember how many Ukrainian politicians and officials have repeatedly said about this mythical army. Starting with Zelensky and ending with the Minister of Defense. How Kyiv wanted to present this war as the first Patriotic War of Ukraine. And after all, many believed in this army. Even with us.

How it all ended, everyone already knows. The offensive suddenly turned into a well-thought-out operation to misinform the enemy (according to the statement of Mikhail Podolyak), and about a million-strong army to liberate the south, simply “there must have been some misunderstanding"(according to Minister of Defense Reznikov). And the Ukrainians again believed in this lie!

Of course, we can talk about the lack of information, which is severely filtered by Kyiv. But Ukrainian society could not lose the ability to think. I do not believe that people, simple people from the earth, have forgotten how to simply think. Just watch and see. But, it turns out that hatred kills this ability of a person. Why think if someone thinks for you? You just believe and that's it.

Lies as a way of existence of the West


I have already mentioned that even the Western media believed in the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is completely incomprehensible to me how the West can even trust Kyiv after the flood of deception that hit Western countries. Sanctions for what was not hit the West much harder. And the facts that served as the basis for these sanctions turned out to be fake.

Looks completely idiotic story. Kyiv is talking about something today, promising something. At the same time, it requires some supplies, investments, and loans from the West. The West responds to these demands: it lends, supplies, invests, and then what? And then puff. It was IPSO (information-psychological operation)! But the funds are invested.

And here it turns on approximately the same method of influencing the people as in Ukraine. Only closing the information space in Western countries is much more difficult. That is why from time to time adequate Germans, adequate Americans, adequate Frenchmen appear ...

Not many people know that the explosions at the airfield in Novofedorovka, for which the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not take responsibility, are nothing more and nothing less than a reminder to us, Russians, that Crimea is Ukrainian! It was not in vain that I wrote that not many Russians know about this. This lie is not meant for us.

It is designed for Ukrainians and Europeans. And, by the way, this is the opinion of a very high-ranking lady in Ukrainian politics - Deputy Prime Minister Irina Vereshchuk. I quote verbatim:

“Today's explosions in Novofedorivka are another reminder of whose Crimea. Because he is Ukraine.”

European and American governments have painted themselves into a corner, and now there is no turning back. To lie to maintain power, to lie for the sake of a mythical victory over Russia, to lie in order to revive the Western system of values. So far, this has been successful, while the people are busy with personal problems. He is trying to independently solve problems with fuel, with sales markets, and maintain business.

But there is already an understanding that with the advent of winter the problems will worsen. And there is anger at the authorities. Elections in some European countries show this perfectly. A lie, even if it is so packaged that you want to believe in it, remains a lie. You can't build a good life on lies.

In war, disinformation is one way to achieve victory. Frightened, deceived - that means deprived of the opportunity to defend themselves. This is an axiom. But to lie to one's own people, to one's own army, to oneself, in the end, is a direct path to a political grave. Or maybe not politically...

Lies are the path to self-destruction


The lies of the Kyiv regime, the lies of the West have really got everyone. Not only in Russia, but also in the world. No, I understand that white lies exist. And not only among doctors. You can lie about the fact that help will soon come to raise the spirits of people, for example, in a shipwreck. You can lie if your lies can stop the panic and save people's lives. It is possible and even necessary to lie in order to mislead the enemy in a war...

But "one must be able to lie," as some movie character said. The lie must be such that everyone believes in it. Even those who invented it! And then very soon this lie will be overgrown with details, witnesses, adherents who will spread it and believe in it.

In countries such as modern Ukraine, everything is simple. Those who oppose government lies have a real chance of getting a huge sentence under the law. There are no real channels for obtaining alternative information. Total control over everyone through everyone.

How sonorously they “caught” Putin’s agents in Kharkov in a couple of days. And there is nothing complicated. I looked at the phone, there is a subscription to the pro-Russian media or the Russian Telegram and that's it. In the SBU, and there a man admits that he is a Martian. And in the end, everyone is ready to carry out those orders that are born in the heads of Kyiv politicians. Society of dumb and dumb robots. Ideal for a dictator.

But for the West, lies are deadly. There is still some pluralism of opinions. There was an opportunity to receive information from different sources. There is an opportunity to express your opinion. And this is where the "gravedigger" of Western governments lies. Lies will be broken by their own citizens, and not by “Kremlin agents”, as is customary in the West.

Already now one can hear the chairs creaking under the asses of Western politicians. Look at the Chancellor of Germany. After Merkel, this man really looks like a "liver sausage", as a Ukrainian diplomat described him. Such humiliation as today, Germany has not experienced for a long time.

A few words about us


The fate of the world, the fate of Ukraine, the fate of Europe, of course, are of interest to me. But only to the extent that it will affect the fate of Russia. I am not a cosmopolitan. I am Russian, Russian. That's why I can't help but speak specifically about Russia.

About lies in the name of victory over the enemy, I wrote above. It is much more interesting for me to understand the lies of my own people. Understand why lie to your people, and what such a lie will lead to.

If the leadership of the country wants people, citizens, to take the initiative, try to work for the sake of their own state, it is impossible to lie to the people. Without any options. May be bitter, but true. And then there will definitely be a person, a group of people who will find a way to turn the bitterness of defeat into the sweetness of victory.

What do I see today in Russia? The first is the cleansing of lies. The SVO forced all the scum, which for many years sucked blood from our country, calling itself the elite of society, to flee under the wing of their patrons in the West. Those who for many years fooled the people, inspiring them with ideals not characteristic of Russians, have disappeared.

Secondly, the place of the former "idols" was replaced by enterprising people who are able not only to organize the work of collecting and sending aid to the Donbass, but also to go into a real battle for the Donbass. A huge number of truly Russian people of different nationalities.

And, finally, the third is a paradox, but NWO has made people kinder towards relatives, relatives, and neighbors. Even to the enemy. A surprising amount of dirt has disappeared. Until recently, the word "scoop" was firmly included in the everyday life even of politicians. Today boys and girls of 20-25 years old tell me about the Soviet Union. They talk about some other, yet unattainable world.

So it turns out that it is impossible to lie to the people in global issues. Otherwise, we will quickly turn Russia into Ukraine. And we ourselves will turn into modern Ukrainians ...
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  1. +6
    15 August 2022 03: 55
    And before us everything is blooming,
    Behind us, everything is on fire.
    No need to think with us the one
    Who decides everything for us.

    Vysotsky.
  2. +9
    15 August 2022 04: 17
    Already now you can hear the chairs cracking under the asses of Western politicians

    ***
    - Are you sure that these chairs "crack"? ...
    ***
    1. PPD
      +1
      15 August 2022 10: 03
      You probably haven't heard the name Johnson? request
      There are others..
      1. +3
        15 August 2022 15: 45
        How great it is to live not in a fictitious world of lies, but in an absolutely reliable (which is proved by all the power of the criminal code, including Article 207.3 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) world of Konashenkov's reports!
    2. +9
      15 August 2022 10: 10
      If you look, this is not the first article of the author, an acquittal of sorts. Like they have a guard, we have goodness. Who among the enemies of the people was oppressed there? The most villains were sent abroad with money. Villains of a lower rank were reassigned to their posts. And the villains of the middle hand live, are healthy and work against the country. do not compare.
      1. AAK
        +14
        15 August 2022 11: 59
        They lie - we have a complete silence, they grab everyone in a row - they let everyone go, they only have a division of "Haymars" and "MLRS-s" put the 2 regions of southern Ukraine liberated by us on the brink of a humanitarian catastrophe and interrupted the opportunity offensive actions of our troops, we have concern for the transit of gas through Ukraine and for the safe and sound export of Ukrainian grain ...
  3. +30
    15 August 2022 05: 32
    So it turns out that it is impossible to lie to the people in global issues.
    However, they lie and not one for 10 years.
    1. -1
      15 August 2022 05: 50
      The author, like many for the citizens of Ukraine, determined how they should think, act in order to correspond to something there. Without asking these citizens. Why ask them? He called them all with one bad word, and now they are no longer people, but this "bad word" ... You can kill them. Forcing you to be "good". And yes, it is strange that those who kill are hated. If a funeral came for a son, father or relative, then what should be done? Love the one who killed them? Why only Ukraine? The Balts over there need to be reformatted, the Poles, and actually the entire "West", and over there in Africa live cannibals and others who are not "corresponding", we should take care of them too .... well, to match ...
      1. +23
        15 August 2022 09: 05
        Quote: Snail N9
        The author, like many for the citizens of Ukraine, determined how they should think, act in order to correspond to something there. Without asking these citizens. Why ask them?

        "At first it was a matter .... and then a word ..." This is so for reflection .... If there is something to think about ... And now ... Can you remind me how it all began? As? SHO Sho ? Who started killing, mocking, spreading rot on Russian-speaking fellow citizens in Ukraine, who made people who speak Russian second-class people? He called them non-citizens... Where did it all happen? Who did all this? Who bombed peaceful Lugansk? Crushed the BMP of civilians in Mariupol on May 9, who burned the policemen alive in Mariupol in the building of the Ministry of Internal Affairs? Who burned people alive in Odessa, who beat people with sticks in Kharkov, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk in other cities of Ukraine? Who cut off Crimea from electricity, water, blocked transport arteries? Don't know, don't remember, don't want to remember? Well then get it! And cry .. You deserve it all! Now don't stop retribution..
        1. +12
          15 August 2022 10: 13
          It began with the fact that Russia essentially didn’t care what was being done there while the money was muddied with Yanukovych, Kuchma, Kravchuk and Yushchenko.
          1. +9
            15 August 2022 14: 35
            Quote: Kronos
            It began with the fact that Russia essentially didn’t care what was being done there while the money was muddied with Yanukovych, Kuchma, Kravchuk and Yushchenko.

            It all started with the fact that someone who was the head of the CPSU with a gop company of communists like him destroyed the country and a chain of fatal events stretched. Yeltsin was up to the ass and Ukraine and Russia were independent. He licked the ass of the Omerigans, that of the British with the Israelis. Understood correctly, you specifically derogatory wrote Russia with a small letter. I hope you are not from Russia? Israeli citizen?
        2. +1
          15 August 2022 15: 52
          Quote: 30 vis
          who made people who speak Russian second-class people?

          There, a person who speaks Russian was elected president.
          1. +2
            15 August 2022 21: 31
            Quote: military_cat
            Quote: 30 vis
            who made people who speak Russian second-class people?

            There, a person who speaks Russian was elected president.

            There, in Ukrainian Svido, all people can speak Russian. Valtsman, Groysman, Kapitelman, Zelensky, Yushchenko Kravchuk, Kuchma are all Russian speakers, so what?
      2. +11
        15 August 2022 09: 09
        And these citizens asked their fellow citizens when the Maidan? Or is it only a wide-eyed sharovarnik who can have an opinion, while the rest do not? So the author is right, they will either have to be reformatted or destroyed, otherwise they will destroy us. If you do not understand this, then you are an even greater misunderstanding than I thought of you.
      3. +4
        15 August 2022 09: 40
        So you got a Ukrainian cyber fighter good
        When the Ukrainians bombed the Donbass, you shouted that our government surrendered the Donbass and abandoned the Russians! Now you shout that we are murderers and the Ukrainians rightly hate us, because we don’t let them live as they want! Whatever Russia does, our government should always be bad and it's an axiomwink
        Now to the merits of your outline.

        Quote: Snail N9
        The author, like many for the citizens of Ukraine, determined how they should think, act in order to correspond to something there. Without asking these citizens. Why ask them?

        Yes, that's right, what should they ask the inhabitants of Donbass, how do they want to live and what language do they speak? Just call them Colorados and orcs and bomb them from planes, burn them alive, iron them with artillery of all calibers, hang and rape Colorado pregnant females !This is normal, the artist sees it that way!
        Quote: Snail N9
        If a funeral came for a son, father or relative, then what should be done? Love the one who killed them?

        You are a fighter here replacing cause and effect.
        Quote: Snail N9
        The Balts need to be reformatted, the Poles, and actually the entire "West", and over there in Africa live cannibals and others that are not "appropriate"

        We'll do that if they kill Russians!
        1. +1
          15 August 2022 12: 31
          Quote: Edik
          So you got a Ukrainian cyber fighter good
          When the Ukrainians bombed the Donbass, you shouted that our government surrendered the Donbass and abandoned the Russians! Now you shout that we are murderers and the Ukrainians rightly hate us, because we don’t let them live as they want! Whatever Russia does, our government should always be bad and it's an axiomwink
          Now to the merits of your outline.

          Quote: Snail N9
          The author, like many for the citizens of Ukraine, determined how they should think, act in order to correspond to something there. Without asking these citizens. Why ask them?

          Yes, that's right, what should they ask the inhabitants of Donbass, how do they want to live and what language do they speak? Just call them Colorados and orcs and bomb them from planes, burn them alive, iron them with artillery of all calibers, hang and rape Colorado pregnant females !This is normal, the artist sees it that way!
          Quote: Snail N9
          If a funeral came for a son, father or relative, then what should be done? Love the one who killed them?

          You are a fighter here replacing cause and effect.
          Quote: Snail N9
          The Balts need to be reformatted, the Poles, and actually the entire "West", and over there in Africa live cannibals and others that are not "appropriate"

          We'll do that if they kill Russians!

          And some Russian citizens Girkin and Pavlov (they are also Strelkov and Motorola) asked the residents of Donbass how they want to live when they began their operations in 2014. Or maybe our “lost” paratroopers?
          There is enough shit on both sides, but this does not make someone white and fluffy, and others villains ... here we are very fond of remembering about the tragedy in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa ... I have a question - why did the head of the regional Ministry of Internal Affairs fled to Russia after the fire? The one that actually directed the flow of protest to the anti-Maidan camp, which allowed the anti-Maidan participants to shoot at Maidan supporters? There are many questions, but apparently you are not interested in the answers - they are villains, and we are d'Artagnans ...
          1. -1
            15 August 2022 13: 11
            Quote: parma
            And some citizens of Russia Girkin and Pavlov (they are also Strelkov and Motorola) asked the residents of Donbass how they want to live when they started their operations in 2014.

            You think first with your head, and then write! They did not fight together against the Ukrainian army, but with ordinary Donbass miners who did not need such Ukrainian power.
            Quote: parma
            I have a question - why did the head of the regional Ministry of Internal Affairs escape to Russia after the fire? The one that actually directed the flow of protest to the anti-Maidan camp, which allowed the anti-Maidan participants to shoot at Maidan supporters?

            Maybe he did not want to live in a country where the Nazis are in power?
            1. -3
              15 August 2022 13: 34
              Quote: Edik
              Quote: parma
              And some citizens of Russia Girkin and Pavlov (they are also Strelkov and Motorola) asked the residents of Donbass how they want to live when they started their operations in 2014.

              You think first with your head, and then write! They did not fight together against the Ukrainian army, but with ordinary Donbass miners who did not need such Ukrainian power.
              Quote: parma
              I have a question - why did the head of the regional Ministry of Internal Affairs escape to Russia after the fire? The one that actually directed the flow of protest to the anti-Maidan camp, which allowed the anti-Maidan participants to shoot at Maidan supporters?

              Maybe he did not want to live in a country where the Nazis are in power?

              Of course, they were not alone, there was a group of exactly the same “volunteers” from among the citizens of Russia with them ... you tell fairy tales about miners in kindergarten, about how, for example, they dug out CORDs in mines that never existed in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, or T72b3 ...
              Yes, and in Crimea there were still “local self-defense forces”, on Russian equipment with Russian numbers, with Russian weapons and in Russian uniforms ... I just look at the facts and think with my head, but you don’t want to ...
              1. +5
                15 August 2022 13: 43
                You look at Givi's funeral, maybe then something will come to you.
                1. -4
                  15 August 2022 14: 00
                  Quote: Edik
                  You look at Givi's funeral, maybe then something will come to you.

                  Look at the funeral in Kharkov, for example, or the graves right in the courtyards of the front-line cities ... or yes, remember the grandmother with the flag, whom we even put a bust on, but she hates us ...
                  PS: in general, I understand you, you don’t want to think with your head, for you there is only black and white, their spies and our intelligence officers, traitors and dissenters, etc.
                  1. +4
                    15 August 2022 14: 12
                    I personally saw it in Mariupol! And you know what the locals told me? They baptized us standing on the roads, and in person they said thank you very much! They said that the Ukrainian troops are not people, that they are worse than animals! They deliberately shot indiscriminately and women and children, because for them it is Colorado! What is this again Russian propaganda?
            2. kin
              0
              15 August 2022 16: 30
              TG Strelkov Igor Ivanovich tells how and who changed power in Slavyansk.
              1. -1
                15 August 2022 16: 41
                Quote: kin
                TG Strelkov Igor Ivanovich tells how and who changed power in Slavyansk.

                Strelkov now says a lot of things! In particular, he said that Givi was a drug addict! I talked with the Samalians about this, all this is a lie.
          2. -1
            15 August 2022 15: 07
            However, the inhabitants of Dorbass got up and went along with Motorola, Givi and others. Were you in this "stream of protest" Or are you just a liar?
          3. -4
            15 August 2022 15: 52
            What kind of "protest flow" can the stoned football ultras have?
          4. 0
            16 August 2022 20: 13
            And some citizens of Russia Girkin and Pavlov (they are also Strelkov and Motorola) asked the residents of Donbass how they want to live when they started their actions in 2014. ...
            Actually, everything in the Donbass did not start with them, they were a consequence, not a cause.
            Let me remind you the chronology of events: on April 7, Turchynov announced the beginning of the ATO.
            And only on April 12, Strelkov (I like this surname more, it sounds more harmonious) illegally crossed the border of Ukraine with 52 more of his people.
            Well, I also allow myself to note that if the people of Donbass had not supported them, they would not have been able to do anything. Without the people, Strelkov and his comrades would have been there, and they would have been calmly handed over to the SBU.
            If Zakharchenko, Givi, Motorola had not been supported by anyone, then they would not have done anything, and even Russia's help would have been useless.
            Or does it not fit into your consciousness that people can think, accept and react to the same event in different ways?
            Well then, I’ll say it differently, in everyday life, in a feminine way: in a large family everyone has to find a common language, make compromises, take into account the opinion of all family members on important issues, otherwise the family will fall apart.
            At the slightest opportunity, if one of the family members is not satisfied with what other family members are doing, he can simply separate.
            Well, make yourself a separate entrance there, put up a wall to fence off your part of the apartment ...
            If this is not possible, then he sues for the division of the apartment and for the allocation of his share in it.
            And the main families must be done in such a way as to take into account the opinion and desire of everyone in the family, otherwise the family will either fall apart or turn into a hostel in which everyone will be on their own.
            Well, something like this is happening in Ukraine.
            Consider that Russia is a court that
      4. -9
        15 August 2022 10: 15
        The author is probably from pilgrims like: "Love your neighbor as yourself. Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you and pray for those who offend you and persecute you." , tooth for tooth.
      5. -4
        15 August 2022 11: 00
        You have confused facts and events by feigning righteousness.
        Some mischief preceded this. But you may not know them.
      6. -2
        15 August 2022 12: 27
        Well, you are right. A murdered son, father, maybe a husband, grief and anger at those who killed, this is understandable and close! We have RUSSIAN SAME! DO NOT FORGET ABOUT IT!!!! I REPEAT - DO NOT FORGET, AND I - for my dead - DEFINITELY WILL NOT FORGET! ... and I will not forgive ... this is the first! ... Second. Your dead, on the BEAR, which they had the stupidity to tease, drove your liar, cowardly, hand .... Dunno, actor-president! Jester in the worst sense of the word. But you yourself chose it! You admired his promises and verbiage! And he is zilch - like any non-professional, out of place! You let the actor perform a real surgical operation on YOURSELF, OR YOUR LOVED ONES!!!! YOU gave!... No need to anger the bear in the territory that he considers HIS! ... it's like pissing against the wind - any hunter will tell you.
      7. +3
        15 August 2022 17: 59
        The tactics of dehumanizing the enemy worked out back in WWI ...
  4. +25
    15 August 2022 05: 33
    The author walked around Ukraine so well, but there is nothing special to find out in the minds of Russians there in / in Ukraine, orcs and lost souls. With the West, the author has already turned out not very well in his theory, you can ask a lot of questions and the answers will begin to contradict.
    But with Russia, it didn’t work out very well at all. And people are now talking about the USSR, those who did not live a single day under it. But about its here in the Russian Federation, there is a complete information vacuum, neither about losses, nor about goals, nor about borders, nor about any of the future results of the NWO, complete silence. And where are people fooled to a greater extent?
    1. -1
      15 August 2022 14: 44
      [/ quote] But about its here in the Russian Federation there is a complete information vacuum about neither losses, nor goals, nor borders, [quote]
      as an educational program, this information during the conduct of hostilities is not subject to disclosure by law. And it is right.
      1. 0
        15 August 2022 16: 47
        as an educational program,

        Not everything is secret there. Laws should be read from left to right, and not used as a bedding to justify the actions of the authorities. So for educational program. hi
        1. -4
          15 August 2022 23: 18
          Well, read on. Go without information. Take care of your powers.
    2. kin
      -1
      15 August 2022 16: 32
      And here is the answer
      https://kapital-rus.ru/news/389633-kreml_zapretil_smi_pisat_o_roste_cen_kurse_rublya_i_davat_ocenki_vys/
      1. -4
        15 August 2022 23: 16
        Brad do not rewrite. Open a browser and look at the exchange rate. Likewise with everything else.
      2. 0
        16 August 2022 15: 40
        Quote: kin
        And here is the answer
        https://kapital-rus.ru/news/389633-kreml_zapretil_smi_pisat_o_roste_cen_kurse_rublya_i_davat_ocenki_vys/

        Good sleep, boy!
  5. +20
    15 August 2022 05: 37
    For me, it's "talk in favor of the poor." The one who wins the war will be right and moral. The loser will be a fiend, a criminal and a scoundrel from the very beginning. Everything else is a spell of pain, fear or uncertainty.
    1. +6
      15 August 2022 06: 48
      Quote: Ivan Sviridov
      For me, it's "talk in favor of the poor." The one who wins the war will be right and moral. The loser will be a fiend, a criminal and a scoundrel from the very beginning.

      Correctly. Winners are not judged.
    2. +3
      15 August 2022 10: 46
      Quote: Ivan Sviridov
      For me, it's "talk in favor of the poor." The one who wins the war will be right and moral.

      Right.
      This is an eternal axiom.
      And those who have learned their lessons in history poorly - we will put them in a corner.
      Or against the wall...
  6. +4
    15 August 2022 06: 07
    When I read reports from Ukraine, I mentally wish our guys only good health. The military operation itself gave such a stream of thoughts that my head is cracking. The definition of this war is twofold. When K. Semin speaks about imperialism in wars in the modern world, he comes under criticism. But the mouthpiece of our propaganda, KS-Sergey Mardan, speaking of natural reserves in Ukraine of 13,1 trillion dollars, says, "Soviet people may be embarrassed that this war smells of imperialism. Let them calm down. We have been waging such wars since 1991." evasions. I love frankness.
  7. +4
    15 August 2022 06: 18
    But for the West, lies are deadly. There is still some pluralism of opinions. There was an opportunity to receive information from different sources. There is an opportunity to express your opinion. And this is where the "gravedigger" of Western governments lies. Lies will be broken by their own citizens, and not by “Kremlin agents”, as is customary in the West.

    Blessed are those who believe.
    What sources of other information? Who sees, hears, reads them? And the gravedigger of Western governments is their own impoverished citizens, for whom the maintenance of their own wallet is more important than the truth or untruth about the war in Ukraine. I heard a thousand times: “We need to end this war as soon as possible,” but when asked how they want to end the war by sending weapons there, there was no answer, or the most banal one - Putin should.
    Take off your rose-colored glasses about the West. There are no opportunities to express one's opinion and, by and large, never have been.
    1. +7
      15 August 2022 08: 00
      There are no opportunities to express one's opinion and, by and large, never have been.

      And don't speak!! Is it our business...
      1. -7
        15 August 2022 08: 44
        Quote: frog
        Is it our business...

        For example, Navalny. There he would not have been free for so long, just like Pavlensky.
        So we have expressed all and sundry, and with virtually no consequences. Yes
        1. +8
          15 August 2022 09: 01
          To be honest, you already podzaemuchili with this clown. No offense, but a bit boring.... Not even touching on cryptozoology with this passenger. In addition, he mainly gained fame by voicing some of the financial nuances of some citizens. So the hero of Papanov also voiced this. But somehow it doesn't work wink If this figure would say that some of the children of the most respected deputy of the Ministry of Defense have American citizenship, is he again a scoundrel? And yes, the child happened before becoming his deputy wink . At that time, he was simultaneously the CEO of both Aeroexpress and Kalash. He is a very talented friend...
          At the same time, I'm not going to squeal for "freedom of speech", because there is none anywhere.
          In general, we are not as different as some would like .....
          1. -4
            15 August 2022 10: 58
            Quote: frog
            To be honest, you podzaemuchili already with this clown. No offense, but boring..

            But here on the forum ochvelo. According to the authorities, who just and as soon as they didn’t walk, and they write nothing - they write from the sofas, and not from the zone. Yes
            1. +6
              15 August 2022 11: 06
              Yes, so-so walked, in fact. Because most people understand perfectly well what will happen, if they try differently wink
  8. -6
    15 August 2022 06: 24
    Russia is at war with Nazism! Nazism has all the excuses that they say they are good, but everyone around is bad.
    1. +3
      15 August 2022 12: 38
      Quote: Alex D_2
      Russia is at war with Nazism! Nazism has all the excuses that they say they are good, but everyone around is bad.

      It sounds funny, especially if you remember our "excuses" ..
  9. IVZ
    +18
    15 August 2022 06: 24
    I don’t remember who wrote that the USSR died because of the lies of the top. It's just that the people were disappointed, and when the time came for them (the Soviet Union), no one stood up.
  10. +17
    15 August 2022 06: 50
    In my classmates, fellow soldiers in Afghanistan, officers, ensigns, who from Ukraine, 90% retired or were removed from OK, there was one ensign left. I see under what he likes. This is a quiet horror. Impenetrable hatred for everything Russian, all sorts of nonsense, such as Ukrainians are a supernation, first Ukraine then the North Pole, Magelan comes from Kyiv, Kozhedub was an ace only because of the Ukrainian nationality, greased his wings with lard. Such nonsense, Europeans are not surprising with their semi-pidor composition. So the Europeans were tortured all their lives, and these were only 8 years intensely. Impressive area.
  11. +2
    15 August 2022 06: 57
    "A Jew speaks in order to hide his thoughts."
    "Jews will never voluntarily give up their aspirations for world dictatorship."
    “The first thing we need to do is save [Germany] from the ruling Jews of our country.”

    “He (Zelensky) puts forward an argument: what kind of Nazism can they have if he Jew. I could be wrong, but Hitler also had Jewish blood.” (Lavrov)

    “Russian President Vladimir Putin apologized on the phone with Naftali Bennett for the words of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov about the “Jewish roots” of Adolf Hitler

    Or maybe it's enough to play the "JEWISH CARD"?
    1. 0
      15 August 2022 08: 36
      You tell Western propaganda that their next goal is the Holocaust. They coped with the decisive role of the Red Army in World War 2 in the West. Photos from Israel of the protests of your citizens at the Russian Embassy are already tired of uploading.
      1. +1
        15 August 2022 09: 38
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Photos from Israel of the protests of your citizens at the Russian embassy are already tired of spreading.

        And why don't you post this?

        https://antimaydan.info/2022/06/vchera_svyshe_200_zhitelej_tel_aviva_prishli_k_posolstvu_ukrainy_i_proveli.html

        This is from Tel Aviv
      2. -1
        15 August 2022 09: 41
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Photos from Israel of the protests of your citizens at the Russian Embassy

        https://t.me/sheyhtamir1974/22699

        This is from Haifa
        Lay out, for the sake of objectivity
        You have never been there, you don’t know people from there, but write categorically about the pro-Ukrainian position of the Israelis
        1. 0
          15 August 2022 09: 49
          Enough for me about the disappointment of our Foreign Ministry in Israel's position on Ukraine.
          1. +1
            15 August 2022 10: 29
            Quote: tralflot1832
            Enough for me about the disappointment of our Foreign Ministry in Israel's position on Ukraine.

            Please bring Foreign Ministry official statement Russia on this matter.
            "Official representative of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. According to her, the position in support of the exclusively Kyiv regime "raised questions" in Moscow"
            And the closure of Sakhnut raised questions in Israel.
            And the questions are always looking for answers.
            On August 9, Israeli President Herzog spoke by phone with Vladimir Putin for the first time since the start of the crisis with the closure of Sokhnut in Russia.
            The Office of the President says that “the conversation, which took place in a positive atmosphere, was long, honest and open. "Both presidents emphasized the importance of cooperation between Israel and Russia and agreed to maintain contact in order to further strengthen relations between the countries."
            “The President of Russia emphasized his personal commitment to the memory of the victims of the Holocaust and the fight against anti-Semitism and promised to continue to support Jewish communities in Russia.”
          2. -1
            15 August 2022 10: 42
            Quote: tralflot1832
            Enough for me about the disappointment of our Foreign Ministry in Israel's position on Ukraine.

            For Israel, these are good statements - everyone already gets it as the only highly developed country that has not joined the anti-Russian sanctions and, moreover, continues to fulfill defense contracts concluded before the NWO with the Russian Federation.
            1. -3
              15 August 2022 11: 04
              Quote: Krasnodar
              For Israel, these are good statements - everyone already gets it as the only highly developed country that has not joined the anti-Russian sanctions and

              Promised to join. Blackmailing "dry".
              And now they don’t even remember about Victory Day.
              1. 0
                15 August 2022 12: 06
                We celebrated on May 9, I promised about it - I have not heard this at work yet (foreign economy)
                1. +1
                  15 August 2022 14: 18
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  We celebrated on May 9, I promised about it - I have not heard this at work yet (foreign economy)

                  Here is May 9th for you:
                  Minister Tamano-Shata said that, despite the traditions of past years, this year it was decided to refrain from public events and marches on May 9, due to Russia's aggression against Ukraine.
                  https://smartpress.by/news/22574/
                  But about the promises of sanctions:
                  Israel may change its de facto neutral position regarding the special operation in Ukraine. In addition, Israel can join the Western sanctions against Russia,
                  https://secretmag.ru/amp/news/izrail-vvedyot-protiv-rossii-sankcii-v-sluchae-zakrytiya-evreiskogo-centra-25-07-2022.htm
                  Just because you haven't heard something there doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
                  1. -3
                    15 August 2022 18: 26
                    Quote: sheet
                    Here is May 9th for you:
                    Minister Tamano-Shata said that, despite the traditions of past years, this year it was decided to refrain from public events and marches on May 9, due to Russia's aggression against Ukraine.

                    Bullshit - in a couple of cities the procession was canceled, which made it a static event, and not due to "aggression", but because of the likelihood of a fight between Ukrainians and Jews Yes
                    Quote: sheet
                    secretmag.ru

                    Solid resource good ))))
                  2. -3
                    15 August 2022 18: 59
                    Quote: sheet
                    Minister Tamano-Shata said that, despite the traditions of past years, this year it was decided refrain from public events and processions on May 9, in view of Russia’s aggression against Ukraine,” the message reads.

                    1 Name foreign countries (not from the former USSR)
                    where public events and processions are held on May 9
                    2 After the start of the NWO, 8 thousand people went to Israel, where 50% were from Ukraine and the same number from Russia. Before that, there were about 500 thousand people from Ukraine and
                    approximately 300 thousand from Russia.
                    I understand you would very much like them to face each other. But the government doesn't need it.
                    Therefore, mass marches, as previously canceled
                    But the events in the cities took place.
                    Quote: sheet
                    Israel may join Western sanctions against Russia,

                    You need to be able to read the whole text, but on what you like.
                    "Israel warned about political, the consequences if Russia closes the Jewish agency "Sokhnut", which helps Russians move to Israel."
                    What are their political consequences, considering the closure of the Russian Cultural Center in Tel Aviv and the suspension of the re-registration of the Alexander Court in the Old City of Jerusalem into the property of the Russian Orthodox Church.
                    There is NO SPEAKING about any accession to the sanctions of other countries!
              2. +2
                15 August 2022 12: 08
                Quote: sheet
                And now they don’t even remember about Victory Day.

                Well, what do you say to IT

                Read the title of this article.
                1. -1
                  15 August 2022 14: 22
                  Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                  Read the title of this article.
                  Reply

                  Are you talking about your amount of flooding under this article? lol
                  1. +1
                    15 August 2022 14: 53
                    Quote: sheet
                    Are you talking about your amount of flooding under this article?

                    No, I'm talking about the title of the article.
                    And my "flood" can refute, if possible. hi
                2. +1
                  15 August 2022 14: 48
                  Again
                  https://www.youtube.com/embed/uPpnuIQIncY?feature=oembed
      3. 0
        15 August 2022 09: 50
        Quote: tralflot1832
        You tell Western propaganda their next goal is the Holocaust

        Are these your thoughts or desires?
        Quote: tralflot1832
        They coped with the decisive role of the Red Army in World War II in the West.

        On the eve of the 60th anniversary of the Victory, an interesting document came out from under a bushel - a report from the chairman of the KGB Semichastny to the first secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU Khrushchev (report 1447 of May 27, 1963). About the Marshal of the Soviet Union, four times Hero of the Soviet Union, the former Deputy Supreme Commander-in-Chief of Stalin - Georgy Zhukov.
        https://www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond/issues-doc/1004765
        Quote: tralflot1832
        .Photos from Israel of the protests of your citizens at the Russian embassy are already tired of spreading.

        Hence, NOT you read the necessary books as a child (c) (NOT mine)

        In Israel, in the city of Netanya, supporters of Russian President Vladimir Putin held a rally in support of the war against Ukraine

        The police allowed a group of Israelis called "Israeli Anti-Nazi Front" (Hazit anti-Nazi Israelites) to hold a rally in support of Russia on Friday, July 15 in Haifa
        1. 0
          15 August 2022 09: 56
          They remembered how hooked they were. And why they didn’t spread it before. And it’s hard to do this in Europe. I read the right books, everyone who left Russia indirectly or even directly works against Russia, paying taxes.
          1. 0
            15 August 2022 10: 37
            Quote: tralflot1832
            Oh, how hooked, remembered

            Let's just be HONEST, to ourselves and to others!
            1. 0
              15 August 2022 10: 53
              I'm only for it, only after your government comes out with a condemnation of Ukraine, and Ze's words "A Jew cannot be a Nazi." And "Dry" you just got burned.
            2. 0
              15 August 2022 14: 25
              Oh yes, let's ... What is the name of a person who blows up / wants to blow up civilian gathering places not during the war?
          2. -3
            15 August 2022 18: 27
            Quote: tralflot1832
            .And in Europe it is weak to do this

            And in Antarctica? )))
        2. 0
          15 August 2022 10: 34
          And where does the lamentation of Georgy Konstantinovich?
    2. +6
      15 August 2022 09: 01
      How is that enough? It was the Jewish government in Ukraine of presidents and oligarchs that arranged this hellish place that is happening right before our eyes. Jewish instructors taught the basics.

      Involuntarily, Jewish communism and the Red Terror in Russia, blown up churches come to mind. It was the Jewish oligarchs who robbed Russia, not the Russians robbed Israel.

      Is it just me or is it all coincidence?
      1. +1
        15 August 2022 09: 53
        Do such names from the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies as Danilov and Gromov say anything to you? laughing
        Is Denisova, Denisova also Jewish? ))
        And if you touch on the national question in Bandera style, then who built the Crimean bridge here? Can you tell me the nationality of a certain Matvienko in the Federation Council? What post does Kiriyenko hold in the Russian government?
        In short, there are many Russians and Jews on the Ukrainian side, and Jews and Ukrainians on the Russian side. there is a conflict on the territory of the former Russian Empire, the ethnic composition plus or minus, with the exception of geographical features, is identical. The division on this basis smacks of Nazism, Israeli private instructors prepared the Donbass National Battalion with the money of Kolomoisky, Canadians trained your mirror brothers from Azov, I’m generally silent about ranting about the revolution lol
        1. +1
          15 August 2022 10: 09
          A, clear. So it seemed laughing Phew, ok then it's ok.
          Real Ukrainian Zelensky

          Although if we assume that Ukraine is the successor of the Khazaria, then probably it is
          1. +1
            15 August 2022 10: 43
            Rotenberg is also a real Russian laughing
            1. -2
              15 August 2022 11: 00
              An ordinary sambo wrestler, but he has reached such heights. Probably he does not know how to betray.
              1. 0
                15 August 2022 11: 39
                Because a judoka laughing
                1. 0
                  15 August 2022 11: 51
                  Yes, and everything is fine with his brains. He came out of Finland beautifully. lol
            2. 0
              15 August 2022 13: 05
              Who do you think is the greater Ukrainian patriot Valtsman, Korban or Kolomoisky?

              Anti-Semitism is on the rise in Ukraine
              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nVPC_yjoKs8&feature=youtu.be
              Watch from 25 to 28 minutes.
              (Possibly culture shock)
              1. -2
                15 August 2022 18: 21
                Quote: Okak Okakiev
                Waltzman

                Parashenko became Valtsman with the light hand of Tyagnibok lol
      2. +1
        15 August 2022 09: 56
        Quote: Okak Okakiev
        And I want the Jews to stay away from power in the Slavic countries

        I want to answer ONLY on this
        Very right, a Jew MUST live in Israel!
        1. +2
          15 August 2022 10: 13
          A Jew who could not realize himself in Russia, as a patriot of Russia, that's right, should live in Israel. Why do we need such people.
          1. +1
            15 August 2022 10: 49
            Quote: tralflot1832
            A Jew who could not realize himself in Russia, as a patriot of Russia, that's right, should live in Israel. Why do we need such people.

            Yes, FIG knows what is right.
            I lived in Israel for 25 years, everything is fine, but I got tired of the Eastern mentality, culture, etc.
            I lived in Germany - everything is ok at work, the country is drop dead, but there are some troubles, not mine.
            I started living in Russia - it suits me personally optimally.
            So it's all subjective. laughing
            1. +1
              15 August 2022 11: 21
              With a European "fat" to retire to Russia? A neighbor from Israel is under construction, he also decided to meet old age in Russia. laughing
              1. 0
                15 August 2022 11: 50
                Why retire, I'm 45 laughing
                How to explain that ... Israel is a drop dead country. But there the East mixed with an ultra-left form of liberalism, and I personally got sick of it - that is, the lack of class is good, but when a taxi driver, listening to your business conversation on the phone, remembers that he forgot to instruct his wife and calls her, shouting over you - this is trash .
                In Germany, it’s also cool, but just joking at work with a pretty doctor, I received a whole lecture from her boss about the clash of interests of a commercial agent and professional staff, this is after an apology for the Holocaust (!) And a further warning that a professor comes to them, a descendant of Palestinian refugees and Schaub I was as correct as possible to him, and best of all, I did not send my clients to him. It's all in one conversation lol
                Etc.
                And since I have been working since the beginning of the XNUMXs with the Russian Federation and I like it here, I asked myself, why the hell should I suffer and stay here))
                1. +1
                  15 August 2022 15: 36
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  East mixed with ultra-left form of liberalism

                  Plus democracy turning into anarchy
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  And since I have been working since the beginning of the XNUMXs with the Russian Federation and I like it here, I asked myself, why the hell should I suffer and stayed here

                  Everyone chooses for themselves
                  woman, religion, road. (c)
                  Batslha!
          2. +3
            15 August 2022 11: 46
            Quote: tralflot1832
            A Jew who could not realize himself in Russia as a patriot of Russia

            This is when, according to the song: “Before, think about your homeland, and then about yourself.” But when the retirement age was raised, I didn’t hear that they would sing this song.
            Better than said GREAT Zhvanetsky, no one can do it.

            Quote: tralflot1832
            right, should live in Israel. Why are we like this.

            And to us ALL Jews are equal!
            1. -1
              15 August 2022 18: 31
              This is everywhere))) except Israel - yes, I agree
        2. 0
          15 August 2022 10: 44
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          Very right, a Jew MUST live in Israel!

          Yeah, until the East gets bored, kapara aleyha drinks
          1. +3
            15 August 2022 11: 58
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Yeah, until the East gets bored, kapara aleyha

            Don’t touch Shifman’s bear
            With Mishka - away from doubt
            His Jews are completely
            In every generation

            Vaughn, grandfather is paralyzed
            Former pest doctor (c)
            This is about my ancestors, I have been living in Israel for 33 years, several orders of magnitude better than in the USSR, and I am just an Israeli and they will take me away to בֵּית קברוֹת.
    3. +2
      15 August 2022 18: 08
      Or maybe it's enough to play the "JEWISH CARD"?
      It seems that now for a certain category of people - this is a "product" in demand ... winked
  12. +1
    15 August 2022 06: 58
    It was necessary not to fuss, starting from February 24, but immediately strangle hard. So many guys have lost because of the pseudo "Freedom, Equality and Fraternity".
    1. +6
      15 August 2022 07: 14
      Quote: bandabas
      It was necessary not to fuss, starting from February 24, but immediately strangle hard. So many guys have lost because of the pseudo "Freedom, Equality and Fraternity".

      And it is even better to support from the age of 14.
      1. +8
        15 August 2022 08: 03
        And even better, since 2000, do not click your beak. And also do not click it since 1992 .... And until 1985 - it is also not useful to make sounds with this device. And then suddenly the question .... And all this time we (as a country) what did we do?
        1. +3
          15 August 2022 09: 18
          Yes, such a chain can lead to the fact that after the death of Peter it was necessary not to begin to rest on our laurels, but to consolidate achievements and deal with shortcomings. Tobish again, do not click your beak. Yes, you can go further than Peter. Up to Kievan Rus.
          1. +1
            15 August 2022 09: 38
            By itself lol . It's just that the meaning of the remark is that if you do business, instead of the usual pastime feel , then it is not necessary to overcome with an umbilical anguish later. But it’s boring, isn’t it?) Even here there are a lot of characters who claim that there’s no other way laughing
            1. 0
              16 August 2022 16: 48
              You're right. If you started, it was necessary to start in full.
    2. +2
      15 August 2022 08: 30
      Quote: bandabas
      It was necessary not to fuss since February 24th
      Quote: Egoza
      And it is even better to support from the age of 14.
      Quote: frog
      Even better since 2000

      It would be necessary, if only ... "Everything happens in the best way in accordance with the real morality and ethics of all participants in the process."

      In order to start a NMD, not only a strong army with modern weapons, with a reliable military-industrial complex, but also the internal political state of the country is needed. The USSR had the most powerful army and where is it?

      Neither in 2014 nor in 24 was the country ready. Even after the 20th, the Central Bank raised the rate to XNUMX%, hoping that the country's economy would collapse, Russia would sign a capitulation and pay an indemnity (Medinsky's negotiations were about this). Now, while still timid, voices are heard over the coronavirus ... Those who immediately fled on orders from behind a puddle as one "flower of Russian democracy" are slowly returning...
  13. +3
    15 August 2022 07: 04
    Graze peaceful people
    You will not be awakened by the call.
    Why herds of gifts of freedom?
    They need to be cut or sheared. /BUT. S. Pushkin /
    The peoples of the world are like herds, and the states are like shepherds.
    If the state orders to be friends, they will be friends, if they order to butt, they will butt.
    If he orders to spoil what was a shrine for the ancestors, they will spoil it.
    1. +2
      15 August 2022 08: 08
      Quote: ivan2022
      If he orders to spoil what was a shrine for the ancestors, they will spoil it.

      But this is "figs to you." Only venal skins will crap on ancestral shrines by order
  14. +5
    15 August 2022 07: 27
    A million motivated fighters would be a serious threat to our troops. Perhaps they would have recaptured something. True, at the cost of his life. A "heavenly million" would appear, but there is a hundred) If they are all such stoned banderlogs, then why are the subpoenas handed by force? Whole operations are carried out. One thing is barking at the camera and on social networks, but no one is eager for war! Better to Europe! From which, by the way, soon the peasants will be turned in the ass (Spain).
  15. -2
    15 August 2022 07: 34
    All true.
    Let me remind you the stages of dehumanization in the former Ukraine:
    1. Destruction of the traditional church. Festivals of various sects, full stadiums on Sundays with preachers, concerts, gathered young people for free.
    2. Blurring of the concepts of good and evil. Humorous programs with falls, injuries to people, terrible accidents and off-screen laughter.
    3. Constant advertising of beer, sbiten at all mass events, drug addiction industry.
    4. Ordinary and lowering the level of everyday culture, the dominance of star idiots in the top of the entertainment industry.
    5. The absence of social lifts in terms of intelligence, the destruction of classical education. Opening social elevators through "personality development" courses, training courses for foreign agents.
    1. +8
      15 August 2022 08: 32
      But all this that you have listed, in Russia, was not and is not?
      1. 0
        15 August 2022 10: 06
        That's right!
        There are nuances, in Ukraine NGOs were stimulated:
        1. Nationalism.
        2. Destruction of industry, education, culture.
        3. Creation of Anti-Russia, motivation for war with Russians.
        They encouraged us:
        1. Building a consumer society.
        2. Destruction of classical education.
        3. Stopping promising technological projects.
  16. -1
    15 August 2022 07: 53
    And none of the enemies of the USSR, of course, will look for a reason why the pro-Soviet Russian / Russian and Ukrainian peoples coexisted calmly and peacefully, and the anti-Soviet Russian / Russian and Ukrainian peoples fiercely hate each other.
    1. +1
      15 August 2022 08: 49
      Quote: tatra
      why the pro-Soviet Russian / Russian and Ukrainian peoples coexisted calmly

      Well, you don't have to, do you? You tell yourself how Western Ukraine fell in love with the Russian people. Maybe overnight.
      1. -5
        15 August 2022 09: 00
        Are you unable to understand what is written? I clearly wrote - pro-Soviet peoples. They all lived quietly and amicably under the USSR.
        1. 0
          15 August 2022 10: 48
          Didn't the Soviet people live in western Ukraine?
    2. +2
      15 August 2022 08: 49
      When he began his dizzying career in the CPSU, according to your logic, the real communist Kravchuk, under him there was no hatred between Russians and Ukrainians? The latter easily replaced communist ideas, with the supremacy of one nation over another.
      1. -7
        15 August 2022 09: 03
        Ha, no, according to your logic, the enemies of the USSR and the communists, all those members of the CPSU who have been slandering the Bolshevik communists since Perestroika, together with you justify the crimes of external and internal enemies of those, these are "real communists".
  17. +5
    15 August 2022 07: 57
    Modern Ukraine is a madhouse. It is impossible to explain the motives and actions of a madman. But you can find reasons why he went crazy.
  18. +2
    15 August 2022 08: 26
    The author has written a lot. There is only one question - what is the point of the article? First, outrage by the Ukrainians themselves, they say, what kind of fools they have become...So what? Is this news? Or did someone not know this? Next - Zelensky as Hitler and so on ... What is in the article that most people do not know? The author decided to tell us what we already know? Or do we not know, they say blind and deaf? To read the groans and indignations from an entire article that does not carry any meaning - wasted time.
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    1. +4
      15 August 2022 08: 48
      All right, say it!
      Only Vanya and the chulpans have absolutely nothing to do with it. For it was not they who handed out our money to the Ukrainian oligarchs, billionaires, for which they, in turn, carried out Russophobic propaganda. It was not they who made discounts on gas, but in return they did not demand anything and did not carry out their propaganda aimed at friendly relations. These same people are now conducting NWO ...
    2. +3
      15 August 2022 09: 56
      We were initially silent when we were "changing history" in Ukraine
      We were silent because we ourselves were changing history. The "great" Russian writer Solzhenitsyn, who enthusiastically wrote about Bandera and other nationalistic wickedness in his works, is being erected monuments and CAM is laying flowers. I’ll just keep silent about Ilyin, who praised fascism and Nazism, his books are also read by HIMSELF and they lie on his shelf, in his own words.
  20. +3
    15 August 2022 08: 30
    Lies kill the people and the state. Why Ukraine is fighting in a different reality
    Russia is also fighting in a different reality. Little dash. When they stopped celebrating November 7 in Russia, from the word at all, they stopped celebrating it in other post-Soviet republics, except for Belarus. May 9 was privatized, each republic, it ceased to be the Common Victory Day of the entire Soviet people, all the republics, and each people individually, and somewhere European, is celebrated on May 8. Soviet scientists who mastered the atom and conquered space became Russian. The Russian Federation "privatized" victories that did not belong to it. But such privatization is taking place throughout the post-Soviet space. And when nothing unites, conflicts are inevitable. For everyone lives in his own reality, invented by him.
  21. +4
    15 August 2022 08: 31
    Unfortunately, we also lie in such a way that it’s just a guard.
    For example, let's take the starting theses for a pension:
    -life expectancy has increased a lot, experts say it will increase even more (growing charts show here)
    - thanks to the successes of medicine and healthy lifestyles, people around the age of 70 become cheerful, cheerful and just don’t want to leave work (sometimes they show videos about composers and songwriters who “don’t want to”. Sometimes the head physician of the hospital and the head of the research institute. Deputies prudently do not show)
    - as a result, for those who still got into retirement - a surprise - an increase of 1000 rubles every month !!
    - if you start a "pension" at the same time as a football holiday - no one will even blink an eye, because such a holiday is once every hundred years, if not less often, and gigantic money has been invested in the show - you need to understand correctly!
    And all this is not about the West, and God forbid, what kind of Ukraine ...
    About amendments to the Constitution, without which it is in no way possible to index pensions, it is even inconvenient to mention.
    Yes, only if someone thought they forgot - so no.
    And so, with the call to stop lying, I completely agree. Lies destroyed the USSR, and can destroy Russia.
    1. -1
      15 August 2022 08: 46
      Lies destroyed the USSR,

      Just not in the sense that the eternal "neglect" enemies of the USSR put into it.
      It was they who, in their Perestroika, lied to the Soviet people in everything - they slandered the Bolshevik-Communists, and lied to the people, what a wonderful life awaits him if he overthrows the Communists and gives the country to them, that it is their republic that feeds the entire USSR, and we must separate, and everyone in the republic will live several times richer, and that before the communists, Russia produced so much food that it fed the whole world with surpluses, so socialism must be destroyed, and there will be effective owners who will feed the whole people with cheap and high-quality products.
  22. +3
    15 August 2022 08: 41

    If you watch Ukrainian television, listen to interviews with Ukrainians, talk with citizens of Ukraine on social networks, you get a feeling of some kind of unreality of what is happening.

    The author doesn't seem to be watching or listening to Konashenkov at all...
    Sunk in a storm...
    The equipment was not damaged...
    Destroyed enemy equipment three times everything that was ...
    Of course, you can rub anything on your people, because they are used to it.
  23. +1
    15 August 2022 09: 02
    You wrote everything correctly, but it seems that the Russian authorities have not known this for the past 30 years. And then they found out! And there is no other way out, only war? And what did the Russian authorities do to prevent this lie and war????
    "The first is the cleansing of lies."
    Ha! And that the EBN center was demolished? The main "temple" of lies and depravity! And in my opinion, lies to his people became even more. And what upsets me most of all is that the authorities simply state the facts, but at the same time do nothing to protect the interests of the people and the country. Examples of "sea".
    "Today, boys and girls of 20-25 years old tell me about the Soviet Union. They tell me about some other, yet unattainable world."
    And what do Putin and the government say? That is why it is not achievable. Because the people need one thing, and the government another. And without lies, Putin's power cannot exist.
    1. +3
      15 August 2022 10: 03
      Ha! And that the EBN center was demolished?
      They didn’t demolish it, but on May 9 they board up the mausoleum, like, well, there was no founder of the USSR who defeated Nazi Germany with a gang. And this wonderful myth about how V.I. Lenin laid bombs under the USSR? Lies upon lies. In Ukraine, they are brainwashed, but we don't.
  24. +5
    15 August 2022 09: 02
    Quote: Egoza
    Quote: ivan2022
    If he orders to spoil what was a shrine for the ancestors, they will spoil it.

    But this is "figs to you." Only venal skins will crap on ancestral shrines by order
    Blessed is he who believes ...
    "During it" in October 1993, tankers, even without an order, but for little money, fired not just at the White House, but at the All-Russian Congress of People's Deputies, which worked there.
    They killed those whom, according to the Oath, they were obliged to protect, not sparing their lives. And no one chirped...
    In March 1996, the State Duma adopted a resolution declaring Yeltsin a criminal. And all our people, again - without an order - elected him again as their President. Few examples?
  25. -1
    15 August 2022 09: 05
    I advise you to read the NYT articles on Ukraine, although there is complete heresy, but their favorite word is possible. And probably this newspaper is one of the only ones where they do not "jam" an alternative opinion. Yesterday there was an article on bridges, in the comments there were most of the Trumpists, Putinites, Kremlin agents in USA. They smashed the article to smithereens. Probably the Khokhlotrolls were not transferred the salary.
  26. +5
    15 August 2022 09: 08
    Quote: Alex2048
    But with Russia, it didn’t work out very well at all. And people are now talking about the USSR, those who did not live a single day under it. But about its here in the Russian Federation, there is a complete information vacuum, neither about losses, nor about goals, nor about borders, nor about any of the future results of the NWO, complete silence. And where are people fooled to a greater extent?

    I read news from many sources, not young for a long time, the fifth decade, but I still don’t understand what future we are moving towards, where is it NWO? Everything is complete darkness. There is an assumption that they just let go of the reins and roll at random. Where the country is heading and what its future is, I still don’t know to this day.
    1. 0
      15 August 2022 10: 35
      From bright communism to bright capitalism, and then to bright feudalism. Moreover, they always make excuses that the former are to blame for everything.
    2. +1
      15 August 2022 11: 56
      "Grandfather is old, he doesn't care" ... Life has passed ... and finally, why not slam the door ... so that the whole house falls apart ...
  27. VLR
    +10
    15 August 2022 09: 14
    The problem, alas, was created in Soviet times. Forced Ukrainianization. The suppression of the crimes of Bandera and OUN-sheep, even the fact that Khatyn was burned by Ukrainian punishers, was silent. The people remembered their atrocities for a long time, but there was a change of generations, the people's memory began to blur, which was used by the descendants of the German servants of the Zapadenschina. Incomprehensible amnesty of convicted Bandera Khrushchev. Enhanced supply of the western regions of Ukraine, which led to the creation of a myth there about their exceptional ability to work, economy, value - and about the idle Russians who sit on their necks. After the collapse of the USSR - a worthless foreign policy, for which Lavrov, who is so praised, is also responsible. The appointment of absolutely unsuitable people to the post of ambassadors of the key country of the post-Soviet space - Chernomyrdin, who could not connect three words without swearing, and, to put it mildly, "abused alcohol." And Zurabov, who, as minister, almost ruined Russian healthcare and subordinated it to private traders from insurance companies, who began to distribute the budget money transferred to them to hospitals, taking up to 30% into their pockets. The gentlemen, the ambassadors, along with Minister Lavrov, overslept all the Maidans, complacently watched the schoolchildren jumping on the squares of Ukrainian cities and at stadiums. They supported the most worthless of the presidential candidates - the cowardly petty criminal Yanukovych, while there was "iron Yulia", who was thrilled by Putin and signed gas contracts that were fantastically beneficial to Russia, and who, without batting an eyelid, would have passed the Nazis on the Maidan with tanks. I don’t even talk about the betrayal of the Russian Spring in 2014: practically without a single shot, then it was possible to carry out a “denazification” operation in a couple of weeks, having received the consent of the LEGISLATIVE PRESIDENT! No, they recognized the putschists and began to conclude agreements with cheaters.
    1. +2
      15 August 2022 10: 40
      The problem, alas, was created in Soviet times. Forced Ukrainianization.
      Have you ever wondered why this was done? In addition to Ukrainization, Belarusianization was also carried out. And pay attention to what this period was held and when it was curtailed. When, it was allowed to return Grushevsky M.S. in the USSR and when he was arrested and when he was released. Yes, and he died, he was not fanciful, on the operating table ... Again, the doctors went too far with chloroform. smile And his works were banned. After death. Not immediately, but by the end of the 30s, they were completely withdrawn from libraries and scientific institutions.
  28. +2
    15 August 2022 09: 24
    Quote: Alex2048
    But with Russia, it didn’t work out very well at all

    The article is great! But much about Russia remained in the shadows. It just so happened - we were lucky. We have not been duped for more than 30 years by Western propaganda? We, good ones, are still selling our bowels to our worst enemies! How long? Fairy tales that our pensioners and other beneficiaries live on money for gas, oil, etc. are fed up! Import substitution has long been a dirty word.
    Many in Russia supported the NWO, but the oligarchs, EVERYONE, must finally take, in a way, an oath to the MOTHERLAND!
    Maybe out of place, but as Minin did in 1612, he gathered the wives of the rich as hostages, and their husbands, like little ones, carried their money to create a militia.
    You have to be HARDER, HARDER! We have only one motherland!
  29. ban
    +6
    15 August 2022 09: 32
    The SVO forced all the scum that had been sucking blood from our country for many years, calling itself the elite of society, to flee under the wing of their patrons in the West.

    Kudrins, Grefs, Siluyanovs, Naibulins, the list is endless, yeah ...
  30. +1
    15 August 2022 09: 51
    I repeat. Not "Ukraine is at war", but "Ukraine is at war". Now the former. There is no state, no economy, no finances. So there are no people. Even the territory was sold and mortgaged.
    They fight with cannon fodder.
    Who is fighting is clear, but there are details: who needs more and why. Is the London Politburo Commanding the Washington Regional Committee?
  31. 0
    15 August 2022 09: 54
    Millions of migrant workers constantly worked in Russia. worked not only in Moscow. They have children, relatives. What don't they know about Russia? Funny. It's just that people, sitting up to their ears in shit, want their neighbor to have an even worse situation, making it easier for them to live. This remarkable feature of the Ukrainian, Moldavian peoples is actively used by their rulers. Soros are the quintessence of the new elites. in the same ugly, they removed Poroshenko and those who still remained from the old ones, precisely because they are no longer frostbitten enough, but now the Soros are not becoming "decisive" enough, they will be replaced by those who will be ready to fight further, laying down hundreds of thousands who will build camps for the destruction of Russia, who will shoot or hang our prisoners in the squares under the jubilation of the crowd. As our troops advance, the arrival of new "Ukrainians" is getting closer. And people will applaud them.
    1. +3
      15 August 2022 10: 33
      These former Soviet people who built world communism and conquered the cosmos, active innovators and inventors, were turned into farmers, migrant workers, killers, prostitutes, "managers", football fans, party-goers and, finally, Russophobes, neo-pagans, cyborgs manipulated by comedians, manipulated...
      Have you arrived?
  32. PPD
    +1
    15 August 2022 10: 06
    Quote: PPD
    You probably haven't heard the name Johnson? request
    There are others..
  33. Two
    +1
    15 August 2022 10: 54
    The political officer wrote! Hey! Everything is circling, everything is in the air! And where is the questionnaire on the topic of pumping gas between "warring powers, and the pumping of oil, which has stirred up the south of Europe?
  34. -1
    15 August 2022 11: 58
    Lies as a way of existence of the West
  35. +1
    15 August 2022 13: 33
    Quote: iouris
    Even the territory was sold and mortgaged.

    I read somewhere that Monsant and other GMO manufacturers bought huge amounts of black soil, and in fact you are right that they don’t even have territory, since they have already been sold.
  36. +1
    15 August 2022 13: 52
    I can say one thing that the Banderaites cannot be remade when they capitulate, many will hide and then everything will start anew, the only hope is that they will be ground as much as possible ...
  37. -1
    15 August 2022 14: 21
    The big can be seen and understood in the small and vice versa. Here are two relatives, Rus and Nagl, who have always been indifferent to each other. Nagle is known to be envious, loves blood and power. and for thousands of years he has been walking around Rus, now he will poke him in the chest with a crusade, then he will put on a mask and seduce and deceive with the loot, persuade him to relax.
    He did not hold back the Chechen region, went from the other side, from the Kyiv side, and sunk his teeth into Rus. Nagl holds the Kyiv side tightly, but also holds the whole of Rus. Rus is also in a deceitful dope, half-ripened. Many of Rus' fingers want to live on their own and don't understand CBO at all. To fully recover, you need living water, that is, truth. This is such water, which is not the truth, but such a liquid truth, which is structured by the knowledge of wisdom. If you contain such a truth structured by the knowledge of wisdom, then the mind will be cleansed and you will recover and the Kyiv side will heal. As long as Rus itself is poisoned by Nagle's lies, and consumerism, acquisitiveness, envy, perversions, distortions, personal gain instead of the common good are all Nagle's FALSE, until Rus recovers and the end of NWO does not save, there will be other bites.
    Ukrainians are a little more poisoned, but we will all become Ukrainians if we don't get cured.
  38. -1
    15 August 2022 15: 58
    As I looked at the author of the article and everything became clear That's who lives in a different reality
  39. 0
    15 August 2022 17: 00
    To fully recover, living water is needed, this is the truth. This is such water, which is not true, but such a special truth, which is structured by the knowledge of wisdom. If you contain such a truth structured by the knowledge of wisdom, then the mind will be cleansed and you will recover.
    In other words, healing and gaining strength must begin with the energy-information sphere. If you cleanse the flaws, that is, destructive thoughts, motives, and fill with pure vibrations of life, you recover and gain strength simply from the space of life, from the upper light. Because this is how the Creator arranged the energy structure that governs.
    So it is for the individual and for the people.

    Therefore, the author absolutely correctly wrote “Lies kill the people and the state” - because it is like poisoning, like a virus, this is a distortion of your (people's) control information field.

    Therefore, another author recently wrote an essay by Zhurnashlukha - just about the same as the author Alexander Staver, about the events in Ukraine from the beginning of pseudo-independence. Because this whole history of separation was imaginary, but since 1990 those who wanted to finally take Ukraine under them have risen, and all their work of creating a sub-American pseudo-independence is a huge skein of lies.
  40. 0
    15 August 2022 17: 40
    Attention, journalope de LCI vous cite... la presstituée cite vos commentaires... sur son merdia des serviles de service...
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    UKRONAZI SE BAT POUR OTAN-WOKE ET UE-HIDJAB, GLANDS REMPLACEMENT ET MULTIAKULTI
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    Kamela se marre...
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    "Multiculturalism is in its essence anti-European civilization. It is basically an anti-Western ideology." Huntington
  41. +1
    15 August 2022 19: 11
    Hooray-Idealism is some kind of distraction from reality.
    They dumped those on whom almost nothing depended, the liberal idealists. They sacrificed their careers, dachas, money, work...

    And the sleeping and real liberal rulers with money - both sat and sit, "manage effectively" and bring down everything that is possible. For example, import substitution.
    The Boeing and iPhone lobbyist brought his son from Omerika, immediately shoved him into EDRo, and began to deliberately hate Omerika and the West aloud ... although he used to be wildly friends with her and quietly sent his son there.

    Chubais - according to leaked references - was not even kicked out of any Commissions, Societies, etc.

    Edro completely closed the Russian Spring a long time ago, and, as they wrote right here on the site, it prevents humanitarian aid for the LDNR and the Police.

    Etc. etc
  42. +1
    15 August 2022 19: 23
    A country thirsty for lies...
  43. -2
    15 August 2022 22: 39
    Ukrainian is not a nationality - it's a profession
  44. -2
    16 August 2022 02: 09
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    And these citizens asked their fellow citizens when the Maidan? Or is it only a wide-eyed sharovarnik who can have an opinion, while the rest do not? So the author is right, they will either have to be reformatted or destroyed, otherwise they will destroy us. If you do not understand this, then you are an even greater misunderstanding than I thought of you.

    This is not a misunderstanding, this is a piece of waste from life. It always throws mud at Russia in any topic
  45. -1
    16 August 2022 07: 02
    Where, who, where did he run away? Traitors and enemies of the people, under the leadership of Putin, are all in their places. just no brains, that's all.
  46. kin
    +2
    16 August 2022 08: 49
    Quote from Voronezh
    Brad do not rewrite. Open a browser and look at the exchange rate. Likewise with everything else.

    Rave? Only the blind or the unwilling do not see what is happening. All those who were dissatisfied were silenced, some left, others were hung up with articles. The country has long been divided into estates and the ruling class, and it is forbidden to criticize its actions. As one politician said, now I am even afraid to give the name of one person.
  47. 0
    17 August 2022 16: 04
    It looks like Zelya finally got in touch with MI6.
    The day before, he was in close contact with serious people from there in Lvov.
    A total, bloody (no one will be spared, this is how the cleaners from MI6 work) is being prepared, similar to the one that was at the end of the USSR under Gorbachev.
    https://t.me/shadow_policy/6487
  48. 0
    21 August 2022 12: 11
    I'm just asking where the Ukrainian humanists stand, why Russian culture, RUSSIAN art, music, literature, everything Russian, but also connected with Ukraine, is forgotten. How Ukraine could ever be an independent state, questions and no answers. The Jewish anti-Semite Zelensky as a manifestation of Ukrainian culture is too much for me. What would Stalin have done? am
  49. -1
    21 August 2022 14: 07
    Quote: Altmann
    I'm just asking where the Ukrainian humanists stand, why Russian culture, RUSSIAN art, music, literature, everything Russian, but also connected with Ukraine, is forgotten. How Ukraine could ever be an independent state, questions and no answers. The Jewish anti-Semite Zelensky as a manifestation of Ukrainian culture is too much for me. What would Stalin have done? am

    As for the "Jewish anti-Semite" - the same thing does not happen to Jews as it does to Russians. They don't forget their culture. This is what distinguishes them from the Russians. And from the Ukrainians.

    About Stalin.
    Stalin would have acted as the party demanded of him. Because he occupied elected and subordinate positions in this workers' party.

    And when the descendants of serf serfs poured into the party from the villages, such as Stalin were no longer needed. People like Khrushchev and Yeltsin were needed.