Ukrainian military: MaxxPro armored vehicles delivered from the USA get stuck even in not too wet soil

It is reported about the unsuccessful operation of American armored vehicles in Ukraine. We are talking about MaxxPro armored vehicles that were recently delivered in the interests of Kyiv. These are 13-ton armored vehicles with a 4x4 wheel formula. They are positioned in the United States by the manufacturer as a "promising replacement for HMMWV armored vehicles."

No more than a dozen of such armored vehicles (International MaxxPro) were delivered to Ukraine. The specific power of these pieces of equipment is up to 20 hp. per ton.

The International MaxxPro, which arrived on Ukrainian soil, was reportedly previously used by US forces in Iraq.

Now the Ukrainian military in social networks share their impressions of the operation of these machines. It is noted that on asphalt, concrete, hard ground, the car "goes confidently, it is comfortable for 7-9 fighters to be in it." But as soon as armored vehicles move out onto relatively loose ground, and even more so wet, problems begin. Under its own weight, MaxxPro literally buries its wheels into the ground. It becomes impossible to get out of such a “ground trap” on your own. You have to use another armored vehicle to pull out the stuck one on a cable.

According to the Ukrainian military, the ground (pictured in the photo) can hardly be called too wet, but this option is enough for the International MaxxPro to get bogged down almost on the upper edge of the wheel.

In such a situation, both the MaxxPro that is stuck in the ground and the one that is trying to pull it out turn into easy targets for tanks or ATGM calculations.

Comments

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Is it bad or good?

[Collins]

Possibly to the point of

[max702]

That's nothing, but soon the colonel and the major slush will catch up from then it will become very good .. And immediately the nonsense about tanks on a wheeled chassis will come to naught ..

[neworange88]

Ivan Zheleznyak was captured. Ivan called the mothers of Russian soldiers to mock them, taking advantage of the fact that their sons had died. Things will not be very good for Ivan in captivity, most likely. Video at the link below.
https://zen.yandex.ru/video/watch/62f5d2bda4448273e8c44fa4

[GNM]

Quote from: neworange88

Ivan Zheleznyak was captured. Ivan called the mothers of Russian soldiers to mock them, taking advantage of the fact that their sons had died. Things will not be very good for Ivan in captivity, most likely. Video at the link below.
https://zen.yandex.ru/video/watch/62f5d2bda4448273e8c44fa4

He himself will have to be thrown out to the dogs after the execution by the court.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

Is it bad or good?

Zelensky's revolution: land for the Americans, and gay parades for the people

[Apprentice_SAM]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

Is it bad or good?

Zelensky's revolution: land for the Americans, and gay parades for the people

Zelensky theses:
Money in your pocket!
People - on the lips!
Earth - mattresses!
Parades - pi...

[locks]

Money in your pocket
People on the lips
Powder in action
The Rooks Have Arrived..

[Thrifty]

The option is simple, this is an additional lifting force! Only one million inflated balloons tied to the roof will reduce the specific pressure on the ground, and the crew will easily pull the armored car through any off-road

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Thrifty

The option is simple, this is an additional lifting force! Only one million inflated balloons tied to the roof will reduce the specific pressure on the ground, and the crew will easily pull the armored car through any off-road

Well, how many Svidomo do you need to inflate these same balloons? Horror !

[nonsense]

Great engineering solution! :)))

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Another confirmation that 4x4 biaxial armored cars are suitable for escort, but not suitable for combat conditions.

[Corrosion inhibitor]

I repeat. Ukrolohi is one of the most colorful types of suckers on our planet.

[Rage66]

This is bad for Ukrainians, but good for us. Is it clear now?

[rocket757]

So in our open spaces, on our roads and impassability, in our climatic zone, more than one army got stuck and ended, forever!
Here's nothing their history teaches

[Sergio_7]

That's it! They forgot the history .... our roads are a tool of war against the enemy!)

[rocket757]

Let them listen to Igor Rasteryaev "Russian Roads" They will do the very thing.

[Murmur 55]

rocket757 - "We are laying asphalt, in some places and not much, so that any invader gets stuck on the outskirts."

[rocket757]

Welcome
We have a lot of destinations... but this year we started building and repairing roads, even those that have been abandoned since Soviet times!
Now you can’t simply come to Volgograd here, repairs and construction are all over the place ... and you have to go to work, in the morning, by district routes, bridges are being repaired.
Even in suburban communities, in some places, asphalt is laid.
We have so ... maybe somewhere else there is a similar one.
By the way, all regional news on TV starts with a list of roads that are being repaired and new ones are being laid.
We only have to sympathize with the builders, we have a daytime temperature of up to +40, HOT!!!

[Popandos]

this year, roads have been built and repaired, even those that have been abandoned since Soviet times!

Today I was driving around the Rostov region from Samara to Yeremeyevo, only about 20 km, I was also happy for the people of Rastov, the road builders laid new asphalt without embarrassment over the old pits.
So they crawled along the new asphalt in the old pits

[rocket757]

Yes, depending on who is looking after the repair work and how he relates to this.
On the other hand, during the day, the movement of trucks is prohibited, the asphalt melts and they push through it at once.
Here other technologies are needed, in the summer it is + 40, in the winter it thaws, and at night it freezes ... all the patches are squeezed out of the pits one, two!

[Popandos]

Other technologies are needed here,

As a truck driver, I fully support it, but it’s also hot in Krasnodar, and the roads are many times better than in the Rostov region, it’s like we live in the same country, and in the neighborhood, and the technologies are different along the way, or the notorious human factor

[Dost]

Himself from Volgograd, but I will say this. I was driving through the Tula region to Volgograd, so good asphalt roads were laid through the villages. At 120 it doesn’t shake at all.

[GUSAR]

Yaroslavl. Roughly the same. They repair everything and everywhere (according to the sensations of course). Oh, don't jinx it...

[Old Doctor]

Strategic weapon! Anti-tank roads!

[Real Pilot]

This car is built for the desert. The soil is very well compacted there. He holds a lot.

I remember desert quad racing in Egypt. There I realized how hard the pavement is in the desert!

If you don’t get into the loose zone, then you can exploit both Abrams and Merkava there ... And in our mud, all these expensive "safes on wheels" quickly become real estate ...

[rocket757]

Rightly noted ... a tasty target for a grenade launcher, and for everyone else.

[stankow]

Even their camouflage is still worth it.

[Murmur 55]

It's hard to believe, maybe it's the gasket between the steering wheel and the seat? And then the first car "sat down" and the second one pulls it EXACTLY the same and on the same ground.

[Dimachrus]

Yes, and the soil does not seem to be quite black earth, but I am not a specialist in the black earth of Ukraine

[Murmur 55]

Also, is the photo fresh? Are the Ukrainians not trying to paint over the camouflage deserts at least a little bit?

[private person]

Are the Ukrainians not trying to paint over the camouflage deserts at least a little bit?

What for ? Yes, judging by the photo and not much different from the dirt. Soon autumn and then winter again repaint.

[Leshak]

"What is good for an American is that Russia is an excellent target"

[iouris]

They will not even ride a bicycle in such black soil after rain.

[Egoza]

Quote: iouris

They will not even ride a bicycle in such black soil after rain.

but what a good reason to explain why they don’t advance, and generally delay arriving at the location)))

[Dost]

And this is "a little dirt" in Ukraine

[Bratkov Oleg]

I remember half a year ago, the Ukrainians promised that all Russian tanks would sink in the swamps, and they would peel seeds from the shore ...
Something went wrong?

[AnalystJack]

Nothing, in the fall after the frosts it will be the very thing.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Yes, in the fall it will be the very thing, there will be no foliage and all the equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be in full view.

[AnalystJack]

This, I believe, applies to both armies.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

This, I believe, applies to both armies.

Yes, only Russia has a multiple advantage in artillery, tanks, aircraft and missiles.

[Novik225]

then they will start to get stuck in the snow.

[AnalystJack]

And don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Well, the wheels did not fit the soft ground, you can change the tires, what is the question. If they are not suitable, then they can be used as cars for officers or doctors, but you never know, it is not necessary to force them to drive through puddles.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote from AnalystJack

Nothing, in the fall after the frosts it will be the very thing.

The most it will be when they freeze to the belly.

[rocket757]

Well, yes, that's it ... break through the ice in any puddle and sit on your armored belly ....
By the way, pulling this out of an ice trap, in a simple way, will not be realistic!
Even a tank cannot always pull out, and BATs with a winch can not be found everywhere.

[Piramidon]

Quote from AnalystJack

Nothing, in the fall after the frosts it will be the most

They will freeze to death in the ground.

[Novik225]

and why did they leave the road for them ??? Have you read the instruction manual? What was written there?
But seriously - each military equipment is designed for a specific theater of operations. Merkava is a good tank? Yes excellent! But only made for hard rocky ground. And in Ukraine it will also get stuck. And most of the bridges in Ukraine will not withstand it. This is me just for example...

[v1tz]

They probably still hope that American and Western technology in general works wonders. But this machine, for a 4x4 formula with 13 tons of mass, is probably a bit too much for such soils.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Merkava is a good tank? yes great

t accurately noted

[Gary zucker]

13 tons and 4x4.
The BTR-80 has about 16 tons and 8x8. Nothing surprising.

[al3x]

Oil is pressed from a sunflower .. they want to fry potatoes

[Zaurbek]

The weight and power are more than BTR82 ... And 4 wheels ...... Plus, this is a MCI, not an armored personnel carrier, respectively, and he needs to drive on the roads

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

and drive on the roads
crush mines.

[acetophenone]

This is where it turns out that if the car sat on a flat "belly" this is one effort to pull it out. And if on a fashionable V-shaped, the evening ceases to be languid.

[Alexey-74]

And what will happen during the thaw? Or will only routes choose where the asphalt is?

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

MaxxPro armored vehicles delivered from the USA get stuck even in not too wet soil

***
- Run the dryers in front of them, it probably says in the instructions in English ...
***

[opuonmed]

Well, the most amazing thing is that it all comes to the end! and on the roads when they go do not touch them

[Sergey3]

Moreover, it comes very quickly, they only lit up yesterday at the border in Poland, and they are already stuck on the front line! Yes, you can’t get there in a passenger car so quickly!

[isv000]

The cooler the jeep - the further to follow the tractor!

[Sergey3]

A good exhibit for the patriot park, let them get stuck, we'll pull it out

[Normann]

What is good for a Russian is death for a German.

[opposite28]

Under its own weight, MaxxPro literally buries its wheels into the ground. It becomes impossible to get out of such a “ground trap” on your own. You have to use another armored vehicle to pull out the stuck one on a cable.

The International MaxxPro, which arrived on Ukrainian soil, was reportedly previously used by US forces in Iraq.

The Americans do not know at all what kind of armored vehicles the Ukrainians need. Iraq is not Ukraine. Loose earth is not unsteady sand.

[hell machine]

Our Tigers also often got stuck, so it's a problem for us too.

[Kesha1980]

Recall fresh - Turkish Kirpi 4 * 4 and weight up to 16 tons. The most for the black earth.

[GNM]

General Frost and his sister Slush are strict but fair. We are favored for our diligence, but not so much towards our enemies.

[Kosta153]

Quote from: neworange88

Ivan Zheleznyak was captured. Ivan called the mothers of Russian soldiers to mock them, taking advantage of the fact that their sons had died. Things will not be very good for Ivan in captivity, most likely. Video at the link below.
https://zen.yandex.ru/video/watch/62f5d2bda4448273e8c44fa4

The ironworker may have hit it. And that slacker who called.

[Commodore Arctic]

the pressure in the pneumatics must be reduced to 1-2 Ati - and everything will be fine! But Uma is not!

[IVZ]

They are positioned in the United States by the manufacturer as a "promising replacement for HMMWV armored vehicles."

Judging by the photographs, even conceptually, this is the complete opposite of Hammvi. I do not like.

[locks]

Humvee replacement is Oshkosh JLTV

[Bratkov Oleg]

But, this is a real American technique!
And finally, you don’t have to ride it on the ground, but you need to pray for it.
Put on pedestals, and jump around it, unless, of course, you are not a Muscovite.

[stankow]

Well, Amer's equipment is sharpened for other soils. Nothing surprising.

[Zadok]

wow! people don't understand this

[locks]

Interestingly, wheeled Caesars also get stuck? This is to talk about the feasibility of wheeled self-propelled guns (I’m generally silent about wheeled tanks)

[Zadok]

so, this is .. "you must be able to drive" (c) my pilot

[your1970]

Damn!!!
Well, it was already...
The armored vehicles of the spacecraft in the Second World War quickly ran out, including due to the rather low cross-country ability. So they weighed relatively little
And here on the same soil - a fool weighing 13 tons