Promising amphibious armored personnel carrier BT-3F completed preliminary tests

The latest amphibious armored personnel carrier BT-3F has completed preliminary tests, the vehicle is ready for export. For the adoption of the new armored personnel carrier into service with the Russian army, state tests are needed, which will be carried out by the Ministry of Defense.

As explained by the executive director of "Kurganmashzavod" Pyotr Tyukov, preliminary tests of the BT-3F armored personnel carrier have been completed, the equipment will soon receive the letter "O", which is enough to supply the armored personnel carrier for export. In order for the armored personnel carrier to enter service with the Russian army, it is necessary to conduct state tests, they are planned by the Ministry of Defense. The military has not yet announced the timing, although preliminary negotiations on the volume of possible deliveries are already underway.

Preliminary tests of BT-3F have been carried out in full. Currently, the registration of regulatory and technical documentation for assigning the letter "O" to the machine is underway. This will be enough to negotiate and conclude export contracts

- leads TASS Tyukov's words.

The tracked amphibious armored personnel carrier BT-3F was developed on the basis of the BMP-3F, therefore, in terms of its dimensions, it is close to an infantry fighting vehicle; up to 14 people in full combat gear can be accommodated in the troop compartment. For this, special energy-absorbing chairs are provided, which significantly reduce the mechanical impact.

The hull length reaches 7,15 m, the width is 3,3 m, the height is about 2,3 m. The total combat weight is 18,9 tons. , power reserve - 70 km. On the water can stay up to 10 hours with excitement up to 600 points. As weapons, it has a remote-controlled module with a machine gun of 7-mm or larger caliber (originally installed "Kord"), as well as two course machine guns.

Comments

[Nikoha2010]

the machine is ready for export deliveries. To adopt a new armored personnel carrier into service with the Russian army, state tests are needed, which will be carried out by the Ministry of Defense.

Those. You can sell, but will our military wait? By the way, Happy Holidays to everyone involved! Many comrades, I'll call everyone later! Happy holiday!

[AvesevA]

Armor like BMP-3F? Or is it thicker?

[bouncyhunter]

Judging by the fact that the mass of the BT-3F roughly corresponds to the BMP-3F, the armor remained at the same level.

[Flooding]

Quote from Avesev

Armor like BMP-3F? Or is it thicker?

In any case, the weight is comparable.

[Romario_Argo]

and also on the BT-3F there is a tank blade (self-digger) as on the BMP-3F for digging
which is very important in defense, the caponier reduces the height of the BT-3F on the ground almost to the level
in the subsequent comment below the photo is number 32

[Flooding]

Quote: Romario_Argo

also on the BT-3F there is a tank blade like on the BMP-3F for digging

It's not called "wave deflector" by any chance?

dump for self-digging is attached to the lower armor plate (nld)

[Romario_Argo]

no, you are confused
why no one ever writes about tank dumps on the BMP-3
- not understanding the tactics of using armored vehicles
The dump on the BMP-3 is located on the lower frontal sheet:
self-digger - at number 32

[Flooding]

Quote: Romario_Argo

dump on the BMP-3: self-digger - at number 32

exactly.
and it attaches differently.
and his position is different.

But the BMP-3 with a raised "dump" on the water

[Romario_Argo]

you show the working position of the tank blade on the tank
but about the self-digger on the BMP-3, BT-3F - in general, few people know and do not understand why it is needed
by the way, on the BMD-4 self-digger - NO

[Flooding]

Quote: Romario_Argo

you show the working position of the tank blade on the tank

Does it work on BMPs according to other principles?

Quote: Romario_Argo

on BMD-4 self-digger - NO

It's not about what and where.
My comment was that in the photograph you provided of the BT-3F, the wave deflector is in the raised position.

[Romario_Argo]

the principle of operation is the same, only it sometimes consists of one sheet like in tanks, it happens like on the BMP-3, BT-3F from 2 sheets - each with its own hydraulic drive

[Flooding]

Quote: Romario_Argo

the principle of operation is the same, only it sometimes consists of one sheet like in tanks, it happens like on the BMP-3, BT-3F from 2 sheets - each with its own hydraulic drive

I repeat, it is attached only to the NLD.
To rake in from below.
Which is logical.
As indicated on the BMP-3 diagram that you cited above.

While number 34 on the same diagram shows ... a wave reflector.
The same one.

And, of course, the digger has a more powerful mount and teeth for cutting into the ground.
That is, it differs even visually.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Romario_Argo

and also on the BT-3F there is a tank blade (self-digger) like on the BMP-3F

[Flooding]

Bad_gr

Apparently, I misinterpreted Roman's words.
Yes, dumps are clearly visible under the wave reflector.

[Flooding]

Roman (Romario_Argo),
I just now realized that you meant the blade in the transport position under the raised wave deflector.
If so, then I beg your pardon.
To blame.

[Romario_Argo]

Namely, a self-digger on the NLD in the stowed position
mutually,
summer - hot - happens

[hagen]

Quote from Avesev

Armor like BMP-3F? Or is it thicker?

All-aspect resistance against KPVT from 200 meters is declared.

[Romario_Argo]

when the BMP-3 or BT-3F is on the defensive, it stands in a caponier, it is also protected by a shaft from small arms fire,
Tucha system - upon visual detection - will put a curtain from ATGMs
the main danger is mortar and howitzer attacks
- in addition to masking the position, use a self-digger
- several spare caponiers of different configurations are created:
through I,
or P deaf with one or more sectors for firing in the ramparts,
or Y - with two exits to firing positions, deaf P or through I

[hagen]

Quote: Romario_Argo

the main danger is mortar and howitzer attacks
- in addition to masking the position, use a self-digger
- several spare caponiers of different configurations are created:
through I,

You are talking about a classic platoon stronghold. Today, such engineering delights are not particularly visible on commercials about CBO. Considering how counter-battery fire is conducted (if you light up the 2A70 on the BMP-3), then for each position for the BMP, 110 man/hours, there is hardly enough time resource if this is not a pre-planned landing on the defensive. At the same time, any platoon of a potential enemy today already has three (at least) 25-40 mm autocannons. Even if, under a happy circumstance, the projectile does not penetrate the armor, then the attachments and optics will be demolished to complete blindness ... On the other hand, military equipment is always a compromise between the possible and the necessary.

[Romario_Argo]

the position for the BPM-3 is equipped in 2 minutes with the blade of the BMP-3 itself for 1 caponier
3 caponiers per 1 infantry fighting vehicle no more than 10 minutes
+ 20 minutes by squad crew of 3 + 6 people per 1 caponier, to create shafts and sectors for firing x 3 caponiers = no more than 1 hour in total
practically your 90-110 hours for 3 positions for infantry fighting vehicles

Even if, under a happy circumstance, the projectile does not penetrate the armor

this is where it is (?) - let the probable enemy still reach with their tanks or infantry fighting vehicles to our line of defense (not NVO)
BMP-3 in the offensive uses the terrain, and can also go deep by 1,5 meters by self-digging in 2 minutes, by 0,5 meters in 30 seconds
эthen you need to discuss everything in detail, using examples, cost a fire map for a motorized rifle company in a certain area and take into account many factors
of course, I would like something in the form of KAZ, there are projects, not yet in the series

[hagen]

Quote: Romario_Argo

the position for the BPM-3 is equipped in 2 minutes with the blade of the BMP-3 itself

My service ended on the BMP-2 .... No ovals, everything is done by hand ...

[Romario_Argo]

on BMP-1, -2, BMD-1, -2, -3, -4 - there are NO dumps for self-digging

[UA3QHP]

preliminary tests of the BT-3F armored personnel carrier have been completed, the equipment will soon receive the letter "O", which is enough to supply the armored personnel carrier for export. In order for the armored personnel carrier to enter service with the Russian army, it is necessary to conduct state tests, they are planned by the Ministry of Defense.

The letter "O" means that the work has only been presented to the customer for acceptance. Acceptance of work will be based on the results of state tests. And only then will the issue of putting into service and purchasing for the Russian army be decided.
And products can be pushed over the hill even before preliminary tests. If anyone buys.

[Gaersul]

The letter "O" means that the work has only been presented to the customer for acceptance.

Greetings. The letter "O" carries the fact that no changes can be made to the product. Everything, the end! It just becomes a shrine. Really just annoying. After all, as it happens, you see that there is a jamb in the product, which was not revealed during the tests or gets out during operation (well, it turned out like this), but you can’t do anything. Why? Yes, because the "holy letter O", deviation from the drawing is heresy! You come to the customer and say: "Here you can do better." And the customer answers you: “So it was bad before? And who is to blame? Well, draw up an act and by all means indicate the culprit. And how many products did you make there? The case, so to speak, from real life, so the letter "O" infuriates me. Well, this is so, about the sore ...

[UA3QHP]

Good morning.

The letter "O" carries the fact that no changes can be made to the product. Everything, the end! It just becomes a shrine.

Everything can be changed. It's more in the admin. the resource is stuck. And the fact that the changes are at your own expense, then the customer can sometimes be understood, and sometimes the customer can be convinced for additional. financing, but there is already an even larger admin. a resource is required or a specific change in the external environment.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Gaersul

.... so the letter "O" infuriates me. Well, this is so, about the sore ...

On the other hand, there is a plus in this approach. After all, some manager can offer to reduce the cost of production of this machine (while maintaining the selling price), by replacing a certain part with a similar one, which, as it were, is no worse, but cheaper, and this sometimes leads to unpredictable consequences.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ua3qhp

And products can be pushed over the hill even before preliminary tests

A foreign customer, before buying, necessarily conducts his own tests according to his standards.

[UA3QHP]

This is their right. Who pays, he orders the music.

[Anatoly Proskurin]

Finally... Crawler. Or didn't you guess?

[Whowhy]

And what for beteru course machine guns? Would they put something like belt-fed shotguns, or grenade launchers with a fixed remote detonation, and you can only scare with machine guns ....

[Cananecat]

I agree, 7.62 is too weak to support ... over time, I think we will see a combat module with a 30 mm cannon there

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

And even better, two combat modules, one with a machine gun, the other with a 40-mm grenade launcher. The survivability of light armored vehicles primarily depends on the
detection of the enemy and the equally quick opening of fire. Two modules are two gunners and earlier detection of the enemy.

[solar]

Someone plans to aim with the hull, like on WWII fighters?

Another question arises - how to manage it? No window, no decent hole is visible. An armored personnel carrier, after all, not a tank.
Sticking your head out the hatch?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

I will open for you, as for a sofa expert, a secret. The machine is controlled mainly in two ways, in a stowed way with a raised seat and an open hatch, and in a combat way using triplexes from under the armor. There are also features, at night with a night vision device, and in the mountains or swimming using a periscope observation device.

[solar]

What a deep thought you have!

in a stowed way with a raised seat and an open hatch

Did you read my post?

Sticking your head out the hatch?

Do you see the difference yourself?
Do you understand the difference between an armored personnel carrier and a tank?

An armored personnel carrier, after all, not a tank.

[1984]

in my subjective opinion, equipment carrying 17 people (14 troops + 3 crew) should be exceptionally well armored and weigh under 50 tons, in modern warfare, destroying 17 people in full gear with one hit is not even a pity for several tactical missiles, not to mention more mass precision weapons ....

[bouncyhunter]

BT-3F is an armored personnel carrier for the marines. How do you imagine a floating monster weighing 50 tons?
And for the ground forces there is a heavy BMP T-15 on the Armata platform. Her weight is approximately the same (49-50 tons), but the crew is a little more modest - 12 (3 + 9) people.

[Lykases1]

There is? Or will there ever be? And how many years will pass before the army rearms?

[poquello]

Quote: bouncyhunter

How do you imagine a floating monster weighing 50 tons?

no, Pash, the second part is cooler

Quote: 1984

weighing tons under 50, in modern warfare, it’s not a pity to destroy 17 people in full gear with one hit, not to mention more massive high-precision weapons ...

50 tons will be saved from a tactical missile))))))))))))

[bouncyhunter]

Hello old friend!

Quote: poquello

50 tons will be saved from a tactical missile))))))))))))

unreal condition.

[solar]

Something like this, for example.

Good mobility, including on the water (this is a glider), good armor and weapons (a 30 mm cannon plus a machine gun).

Speed, km/h 72.41 km/h (highway), 46 km/h (on water).

And 17 landing personnel plus 3 crew.
Weight - 35 tons.

In addition to the aluminum armored hull, the fighting compartment and the landing compartment are protected by additional armor made of ceramic-based composite materials. From the forward sectors of fire, the EFV armor should provide protection against 30 mm BOPTS projectiles, the side, rear armor and horizontal surfaces of the vehicle should provide protection against 14,5 mm armor-piercing bullets of the KPVT machine gun and fragments of 152 mm shells. It is also possible to install hinged armor.

[Tavrik]

A massive swim of marines on an armored personnel carrier with a BDK towards an unequipped coast is almost like a mass parachute landing. "Holy cow".

[Alex777]

Quote from solar

Something like this, for example.

And the asking price an example what?

[solar]

Above, it was not about the price, but about the technical feasibility of implementation.

[Two]

Hebrews have experience! On the basis of captured (ours!) Tanks, they created the most reliable (in their opinion!) and safe for personnel armored personnel carrier.

[Popandos]

Hebrews have experience!

And how many water barriers need to be crossed in Israel or its surrounding countries?
And we have?

[Two]

They have the advantage of saving the life of the landing force and fire support. To force something is a second time! And for tanks, there has long been a kit for forcing shallow water barriers.

[fa2998]

Quote: Popandos

Hebrews have experience!

And how many water barriers need to be crossed in Israel or its surrounding countries?
And we have?

Well, like small children, if we have rivers, we need to transfer the ENTIRE ARMY to plywood infantry fighting vehicles. Make a special floating one for the advanced units, for reconnaissance, and the rest fight on protected vehicles.
By the way, the T-15 "having no galagas", which they "boast" at parades is not floating, so you asked your question to the developers.

[Popandos]

Citizen dos said

Hebrews have experience!

I just answered him that the Israelis made equipment for their theater of operations, and this does not mean that we need exactly the same, that's all

[Piramidon]

Quote: 1984

in modern warfare, it’s not a pity to destroy 17 people in full gear with one hit, even a few tactical missiles, not to mention more massive high-precision weapons ....

What are tactical missiles? A 50-ton tank is destroyed by ATGMs and even RPGs.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Such a vehicle is needed in every motorized rifle platoon, for the transportation of heavy small arms and the evacuation of troops from damaged infantry fighting vehicles. On such a machine, it is convenient to control drones and transport ATGMs with AGS.

[DenVB]

On the water can stay up to 7 hours with excitement up to 3 points.

And if you put a sail...

[fa2998]

Quote: bouncyhunter

the mass of the BT-3F is approximately the same as the BMP-3F, the armor remained at the same level.

Only today they are already writing that the armor of the BMP-3 needs to be strengthened (only in Ukraine they found out), but here "NEWEST", they would still have written "having no analogues". Again, the landing force should sit on top. Another plywood sample.

[UAZ 452]

What export?! Who will buy a car that has not yet been adopted by its own armed forces? And in the given performance characteristics there is not a word about the security of the combat vehicle. Or how is it typical for floating equipment - cardboard armor?