Salvador Allende and Augusto Pinochet

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Salvador Allende and Augusto Pinochet

On September 11, 1973, one of the most high-profile and famous military coups of modern times took place in Chile. The legally elected President of Chile, Salvador Allende, was overthrown by conspirators led by the Minister of Defense of this country, Augusto Pinochet. Allende, to whom the rebels guaranteed free exit from the country, defended himself to the end in his palace. Being wounded, he preferred to shoot himself with a Kalashnikov assault rifle given to him by Fidel Castro - and entered history a hero and a martyr, an eternal reproach to Yanukovych and other cowards like him.


Allende with a machine gun given to him

Curiously, Allende's parents belonged to the upper strata of Chilean society. His grandfather, Ramon Allende Padin, was the chief physician of the emergency hospital in Valparaiso, professor, founder of the medical corps of the Chilean army, which he led during the Pacific War of 1879-1884. And also a senator and a member of the Free and Justice Masonic Lodge, of which he became the Grand Master a few months before his death. Later, the father of our hero and Salvador Allende himself joined this lodge. At the funeral, the coffin with the body of Ramon Allende Padina was carried by two future presidents of Chile - José Manuel Balmaceda and Ramon Barros Luco.




Ramon Allende

Salvador Allende's father was a successful left-wing lawyer. A prominent position was occupied by another relative of the future president, Ramon Allende Castro, who was deputy minister of the interior, international relations and justice.

Pinochet was the eldest of six children in a poor family of a small customs official. The only thing in common between him and Salvador Allende was that both were born in the city of Valparaiso, in which the largest seaport of this country is located. However, they chose the roles in this unimagined high tragedy for themselves, as if in defiance of fate and circumstances. Let's get to know them better.

Youth


Salvador Guillermo Allende Gossens was born on June 26, 1908. All doors were open to a native of an influential and wealthy noble family of Basque origin.


Coat of arms of the Allende family

He studied at a prestigious school with the loud name "Metropolitan National Institute". In the year of her graduation (1924) he became the national champion in decathlon among youths. In 1925 he served in the elite Cuirassier Regiment, then in 1926 he entered the medical faculty of the National University of Santiago. Here he became one of the leaders of the leftist student organization "Offensive" and a member of the University Council. For his activities, he was even briefly arrested in 1931.

In 1933, at the age of 24, he and his friend Vallejo (husband of Allende's sister and brother of one of the leaders of the leftist junta in the 1930s) were among the founders of the Socialist Party of Chile. Allende headed its branch in Valparaiso (later he will take the post of general secretary). Along the way, in 1935, he also became the editor of the Medical Bulletin of Chile, the author of the book The Organization of National Health - and in July of the same year he was sent into exile in the village of Caldera for anti-government activities, returned in November. And in March of the following year, Allende was at the head of the left-wing Popular Front in his hometown of Valparaiso.

Arrests and exile did not interfere with his political career, and perhaps even contributed to its successful development. In 1937, Allende had already become a member of the National Congress, in 1939 - Minister of Health and Social Security. Already a minister, during the work to eliminate the consequences of the 1939 earthquake, he met his future wife, Hortensia Bussi Soto, who was involved in helping the victims. In 1940 they entered into a marriage, in which Hortensia gave birth to three daughters.


Salvador Allende and Hortensia Bussi

The granddaughter of El Salvador and Hortensia, Maya Alejandra Fernandez Allende, has been the Minister of Defense of Chile since March 1, 2022.


Maya Alejandra Fernandez Allende

In Congress, Salvador Allende initiated the Social Security Act, which was passed by Congress in 1940.

In 1942, he left the post of minister and headed the Socialist Party.

And what was Augusto Jose Ramon Pinochet Ugarte doing at that time, who was 6 years younger than Allende (born November 25, 1915)?

He could not even dream of such a rapid “upward movement”. As we remember, Pinochet came from a poor family of a petty customs official. The ancestors of his father once came to Chile from Brittany, his mother - from the Basque Country. As a child, the boy was hit by a car, and he almost became disabled: the doctors seriously considered the possibility of amputating his leg. At an early age, he was impressionable. The episode that happened to him in the cinema while watching a silent film is indicative: after seeing the scene of execution, the future general and bloody dictator climbed under an armchair and shouted at the whole hall.

But in the future, his character changed, and at school Pinochet often received reprimands for various pranks. Service in the army gave at least some hope of breaking into people, but the beginning of a military career was the most ordinary and did not promise a special take-off. When the 30-year-old Allende became a minister in the government of President Pedro Aguirre Cerda, the 24-year-old Pinochet was a junior lieutenant and did not even serve in the capital, but in the provinces.


Young officer Augusto Pinochet

He tried to compensate for the shortcomings of his education (he graduated from an ordinary Catholic school, and then an ordinary, not elite, military school) by reading books on history, geography and military affairs. In 1943, 28-year-old Pinochet married Lucia Iriart, a 20-year-old girl from a wealthy family.


Augusto Pinochet and his wife Lucia

Lucia's parents were against this marriage, but he turned out to be quite happy. The wife fully shared the views of Pinochet, was an active supporter of a military coup, in her homeland she is known by the nickname "Iron Lady of Chile". In this marriage, 5 children were born.
Only in 1948, 11 years after graduating from college, did Pinochet enter the military academy.

That is, before us, on the one hand, is a brilliant intellectual from a wealthy family professing liberal views. Already after Allende's victory in the presidential election, The New York Times on November 1, 1970 could read:

"Unlike most communist trade union leaders and parliamentarians with their rough manners, dull speeches and dark business suits, Allende has something of a dandy and a ladies' man."

And Allende himself proudly declared:

"I was accused of everything, but not that I was a thief or a homosexual."

On the other hand, we see an unremarkable person from the lowest layer of the middle class - a hard worker who does not have connections and patrons, without special abilities, but conscientious, executive and disciplined.

Salvador Allende on his way to the presidency of Chile


Four times - from 1945 to 1969, Allende was elected to the Senate and was its speaker in 1966-1969. In 1949–1963 he was acting president of the Medical College of Chile. He ran for president in 1952, 1958 and 1964, coming in second twice. In 1954, Allende first visited the USSR, in 1959 - Cuba, where he met Castro and Che Guevara, in 1969 - Vietnam, where he met with Ho Chi Minh.


Salvador Allende and Fidel Castro

In 1970, after becoming the candidate of the Popular Unity coalition of left-wing parties (in the establishment of which the General Secretary of the Communist Party of Chile, Luis Corvalan, took part in the establishment), Allende finally won them.


Luis Corvalan and Salvador Allende on postage stamps of the GDR

The Americans, who did not want to receive a “second Cuba” in South America, watched the situation in Chile with concern.


Santiago, the inscription on the wall: "Cuba is not alone"

To counteract the election of Allende in the United States, a special coordinating "Committee of 40" was created. It was chaired by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, and its members were Attorney General John Mitchell, Director of Central Intelligence Richard Helms, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Thomas Moorer, State Department Representative Alexis Johnson, and Undersecretary of Defense David Packard.

It was the "Committee of 40" who approved all the covert operations of the CIA. To finance the pro-American forces, 3 million dollars were allocated (much more full-weighted than now). Another 700 thousand dollars were spent by private American companies that supported mainly Allende's main rival, Jorge Alessandri. Half of this amount was allocated by the International Telephone & Telegraph Corporation. At the same time, the Soviet Union, before the elections, provided assistance to the "People's Unity" in the amount of approximately 500 thousand dollars. And it was Allende who took the first place in these elections.

However, his victory was not indisputable and unconditional. The fact is that he received a relative majority of votes - 36,3%. Right-wing National Party candidate Jorge Alessandri (President of Chile 1958-1964) received 35% of conservative voters. The representative of the Christian Democrats, Radomiro Tomic, who advocated moderate and gradual reforms, was supported by 30% of those who voted.


Salvador Allende, Jorge Alessandri Rodriguez, Radomiro Tomic

According to Chilean law, if no candidate received more than 50% of the vote, the final decision was to be made by Congress, choosing between Allende and Alessandri, who received the most votes. Radomiro Tomic was a good acquaintance and even friend of Allende. It was his support that was decisive. He declared in parliament the recognition of Allende's victory.

The right, realizing that force was not on their side, did not dare to join the fight, although among their supporters, supported by the Americans, voices were heard calling for the use of force. The US Ambassador to Chile, E. Corry, in his report, described this situation as a "heavy defeat." And President Nixon, upon receiving the news of Allende's victory, according to Kissinger, "was simply beside himself." $350 was allocated to counter Allende's presidency.


Allende on the cover of Time magazine October 19, 1970 - "The Marxist Threat to America"

Men - supporters of Alessandri at that time took to the streets in underwear with signs "I'm an idiot" and "That's how I should be", their wives dressed in black - "as a sign of mourning for the fate of Chile."

Before officially taking office, Allende was effectively denied state protection. Once he had to fire his rifle into the air from a balcony to scare off an aggressive crowd, and his beloved daughter and assistant Beatrice was almost crushed by a car driven by a supporter of the losing right. As a result, Allende made his residence a country villa, the protection of which was taken over by a “detachment of personal friends”, consisting of Cubans sent to Chile by Fidel Castro. Initially, there were several dozen people in this detachment, then several hundred.

So, having received the approval of the deputies of parliament, "the first democratically elected Marxist" entered the presidency of Chile. He immediately established diplomatic relations with the PRC, Cuba and the GDR, and, fulfilling his election promises, began to carry out long-planned reforms.

Career of Augusto Pinochet


Pinochet meanwhile graduated from the military academy. For some time he taught at a military school, which he himself once graduated from. He attended a course of lectures at the School of Law of the University of Chile and in 1953 received a bachelor's degree. Then he published the book "Geography of Chile, Argentina, Bolivia and Peru". Later he wrote three more: "An Essay on the Study of Chilean Geopolitics", "Geopolitics" and "Tarapac's Campaign". In 1956 he was sent to Ecuador to help establish a local military academy.

At the end of 1959, Pinochet received command of the regiment, in 1963 he was appointed deputy director of the Military Academy. He showed no interest in politics at that time. Reports of Pinochet's participation in the shooting of protesting workers at the El Salvador mine in 1967 are not confirmed in historical documents. In addition, Pinochet did not command any military unit at that time. Pinochet became a brigadier general only in 1969, and received the rank of divisional general already under President Allende - in 1971. Then he became the commander of the garrison of the capital of Chile - Santiago.


General Pinochet at a military parade, photo 1971

In the next article we will talk about the social, economic and political situation in Chile, the role of the army and the reforms of the government of Salvador Allende, and then we will talk about the El Tanquetazo rebellion, the military coup on September 11, 1973 and the fake "economic miracle" that is not really happened in Chile during the reign of Pinochet.
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  1. +10
    11 August 2022 05: 16
    ***
    "Salvador Allende"

    Slides like a black snake
    telegraph white tape:
    in Chile
    junta
    killed
    President Salvador Allende.
    Distant Chilean people,
    freedom
    touched
    barely
    criminal coup
    felt with a knife
    in your body.

    The ether is pulled like a string.
    Grief today in Chile...
    And where is this Chile-country,
    about which we learned in childhood?
    Few have been there
    few have seen it.
    And the bullets
    smashed on the spot,
    day
    capsized at night.

    . . . . .
    The ether whistles like an arrow.
    Pain hits the soul, growing;
    distant country Chile
    has long ceased to be for us!
    ...

    Vladimir Kotov
    (October 8, 1973)

    ***
    1. +1
      11 August 2022 14: 00
      I remember the coup itself, there were various publications in Pionerka, but I didn’t see this poem
      1. +1
        11 August 2022 17: 43
        Often then on the radio they played "Venceremos" - "This means that we will win"
  2. -32
    11 August 2022 05: 33
    The first thing Pinochet did after coming to power was to kill all the communists and crush the drug business.
    The communists moved to the prison and the cemetery and the drug business to Colombia
    :)
    1. VLR
      +26
      11 August 2022 05: 56
      In Colombia - cocaine, and in Chile, coca bushes do not grow - the climate is not the same. In Chile - cannabis, they began to grow hemp a very long time ago - for the needs of the fleet. Chileans were taught to smoke cannabis by foreign sailors, mostly Americans, and especially popularized by American hippies - they say, the American way of life, nonconformism, freedom, protest against the hypocrisy of the older generation, "expansion of consciousness" and so on. Chilean drug traffickers have never entered the international level.
      1. -14
        11 August 2022 06: 13
        How they grow.
        In general, coca grows throughout Latin America.
        Colombia became the main supplier precisely after Pinochet came to power. Producers fled the country in PM to Colombia.
        You just don't know this story.
        1. +2
          11 August 2022 06: 42
          Producers fled the country in PM to Colombia.
          Taking with them, cocaine bushes, for cultivation in Colombia, moved production. laughing
          1. -9
            11 August 2022 16: 55
            Uncle are you sick? Coca is a local endemic.
            1. 0
              11 August 2022 17: 34
              laughing oh right now, uncle laughing
        2. VLR
          +15
          11 August 2022 07: 29
          Chile has a rather cool climate, the country is separated from other states of the Andes mainland and pressed by them to the Pacific coast, the water, by the way, is cold. Tropics - only in the north. If coca grows there, then it is not on an industrial scale.
          1. +2
            11 August 2022 15: 37
            Coca grows best in Bolivia, Peru, and Ecuador.
        3. +13
          11 August 2022 09: 33
          In general, coca grows throughout Latin America.
          Coca production begins in the valleys and upper jungles of the Andean region, where more than 98% of the world's area sown with coca is located in the countries of Colombia, Peru and Bolivia. In Chile, coca was not grown. army and navy already from the middle of the 16th century. In Chile, only 8% of the land suitable for agriculture, which the Chileans use with maximum benefit and are exporters of agricultural products, if coca was grown, died of starvation. And the climate there is not for coca.
          1. +1
            11 August 2022 14: 22
            Quote: kor1vet1974
            Peru and Bolivia

            In Peru, a little more, in Bolivia, less, but, in general, a miserable amount. Ecuador and Colombia - there to hell
            1. +2
              11 August 2022 15: 59
              Doesn't grow in Chile.
        4. +2
          11 August 2022 14: 20
          Quote: kytx
          How they grow.

          Colombia - Ecuador
          In addition to these countries, it does not grow anywhere on a commercial scale.
          1. +2
            11 August 2022 15: 38
            How. Bolivia and Peru.
            1. -2
              11 August 2022 16: 16
              It is growing, but not enough - not on an industrial scale, let's say so
              1. +1
                11 August 2022 16: 40
                In Bolivia then? Yes, it grows everywhere. At the state level! The toothpaste is even added to drinks. Peasants have quotas and all that. The paste goes to Colombia, where it is processed either into a base or into a hydrochloride. Despite the fact that in Bolivia and Peru it is of the highest quality.
                1. -2
                  11 August 2022 16: 43
                  I read another
                  1. +2
                    11 August 2022 16: 48
                    What else? All peasants in Bolivia have a quota for growing cocci, as it is more profitable than growing any rutabaga. Cocca is added to pasta, drinks, etc. by the command of the Indians. The production of cocaine is prohibited. But it's banned in Colombia, too.

                    The best places to grow Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador.
                    1. -1
                      11 August 2022 16: 51
                      I read that there are no cocaine plantations in the Colombian sense. In Ecuador, yes, there is a lot of coca.
                      Quote: TEX-50
                      The best places to grow Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador.

                      They are grown in Colombia.
                      1. -1
                        11 August 2022 16: 54
                        Grow up. But the main role of Colombia is processing and marketing. It is Colombia and Venezuela that produce cocaine.
                      2. -2
                        11 August 2022 16: 57
                        Never read about Venezuela
                      3. -3
                        11 August 2022 17: 02
                        Who will write to you about it? Maduro friend! Everything is clear in his country, everything is fine, and everyone is happy. Although this is probably the most criminal country, only inferior to El Salvador (but this is not certain). I have a Colombian friend who has never really been to El Salvador, but often visits Venezuela. Says Colombia is just an oasis of peace in comparison.
                      4. -1
                        11 August 2022 17: 11
                        What do you think an Israeli of post-army age knows about drug dealers in LA? laughing
                        In addition to the Mexican ones, Israeli demobilizations guard laboratories, convoys, and villas of bosses at all cortels.
                        Venezuela - I had relatives there before Chavez - the largest furniture manufacturers in the country. One of them is a parliamentarian (former).
                        Now they live in the States - street crime is frenzied there, I have not heard about drugs.
                      5. -1
                        11 August 2022 17: 15
                        Well, you never know, who hasn't heard anything. In Bolivia, too, everything is fine, like everything is only according to the law.

                        Street crime, it does not happen in such countries without drugs. They always walk by the hand.
                      6. -1
                        11 August 2022 17: 17
                        Drugs - street sale is one thing, smuggling on a commercial scale to other countries is another.
                      7. 0
                        11 August 2022 17: 22
                        Street marketing does not happen without commercial scale. Especially for such an expensive substance as cocaine! No one will risk a couple of kilos to deliver to the Venezuelan ragamuffins. There is a huge scale, and as far as I know, there is a very strong growth in smuggling through this country, because. she carries oil, incl. and in the USA. And the US is the main consumer of coconut.

                        And then, Venezuela is the poorest country in the region. And this, in turn, means that anything will flourish there, if it makes a profit. Or do you think that Maduro is ideological?
                      8. -2
                        11 August 2022 19: 42
                        Quote: TEX-50
                        because she carries oil, incl. and in the USA. And the US is the main consumer of coconut.

                        No longer carries - sanctions are shmanctions, trades through Iran
                        Quote: TEX-50
                        Or do you think that Maduro is ideological?

                        I think that the population does not have money for cocaine
                      9. 0
                        11 August 2022 20: 16
                        No longer carries

                        Yes of course, yes. Also how it drives. Sanctions are for suckers through the media and that's it. From the same opera, how the Yankees fought against drug trafficking in Afghanistan.

                        ...no attendants


                        Some have it, some don't. Like in Bogota, you sit on a bench in the right place. A minute later they sit down to you: "Man, will you take 2 kilos?". It's not just cocaine, it's everything! And God himself ordered to hide the cargo in tankers.
                      10. -1
                        11 August 2022 20: 59
                        Quote: TEX-50
                        , this is for the losers through the media and that's it.

                        laughing
                        The states do not buy heavy Venezuelan oil, the only refinery in Texas that could do anything with it has moved off the topic a long time ago. They sell through Iran, according to Persian schemes, mainly in the Far East.
                        Quote: TEX-50
                        Man, will you take 2 kilos?

                        Let's just say - a gram of mercilessly bodyated coconut in the Russian Federation costs from 10 thousand rubles.
                        In Bagot, even if it costs 5 dollars a gram, 2 kg cost:
                        5 x 1000 grams x 2 = 10 bucks. ))
                        In Caracas, it already costs twice as much laughing
                      11. -1
                        12 August 2022 07: 49
                        May be so. But the sailors who work on contracts are constantly carrying something from Venezuela to the United States. I doubt the tankers are full of cocaine and rum. They deliver accurately and consistently.

                        A gram of coke in Russia costs at least 12,5. I don't know how much it costs in Bogotá and in Caracas. But in principle, it cannot cost twice as much in Caracas, since this is now the main delivery route to the USA after Mexico.
                      12. -1
                        12 August 2022 07: 51
                        I don't know anything about tanker traffic between the States and Venezuela))
                      13. -1
                        12 August 2022 07: 52
                        Well, if you don't know, then it definitely doesn't exist. laughing
                      14. -1
                        12 August 2022 08: 32
                        Well, it's not 2 kg of cocaine on a bench fellow
                      15. -1
                        12 August 2022 09: 26
                        On the bench, they agree on any volumes.
                      16. -1
                        12 August 2022 09: 44
                        laughing
                        Didn't touch that shit and don't good Drugs are evil
                      17. +1
                        12 August 2022 18: 50
                        Quote: TEX-50
                        Who will write to you about it? Maduro friend! Everything is clear in his country, everything is fine, and everyone is happy. Although this is probably the most criminal country, only inferior to El Salvador (but this is not certain). I have a Colombian friend who has never really been to El Salvador, but often visits Venezuela. Says Colombia is just an oasis of peace in comparison.

                        And to Madura. and before Chavez, who was a friend?
                      18. -3
                        12 August 2022 19: 49
                        I have no idea.
        5. +1
          11 August 2022 17: 47
          By the way. This moment is in the first part of the Narcos series .. But how Chile was a supplier of cocaine is a big question ....
      2. +3
        11 August 2022 10: 05
        Thanks for the article, entering Valparaiso is an unforgettable experience.
    2. -1
      11 August 2022 14: 11
      Pinochet was wrong: it was necessary not to shoot the communists, but the weathervanes
      : when the communists are in power, they are the first to tear their shirt and rush to revolutionary "justice". Just such and pozooyat party.
      The communists were driven away, the weathercocks begin to rape the communists and the steam locomotives rush ahead.
      By God, kill Pinochet 2 such "revolutionaries": and the air is cleaner
      1. +5
        11 August 2022 16: 14
        Allende's popular unity included the Socialist, Communist, Radical, Social Democratic parties, the United People's Action Movement - a political party of a socialist orientation, formed from a left-wing split from Christian democracy, and an Independent Popular Movement - populist. Pinochet, shot everyone, both left and right. Pinochet banned all political parties. Everyone sat and was destroyed, both communists and non-communists and Christian Democrats.
    3. 0
      12 August 2022 21: 08
      Quote: kytx
      The communists moved to the prison and the cemetery

      and why this ..., let's say softly cry?!
  3. +10
    11 August 2022 05: 34
    Good morning friends! smile

    In 1078 we released a very good film "Centaurs".
    Director Vytautas Zhalakyavichyus, Donatas Banionis as Salvador Allende, Yevgeny Lebedev as Augusto Pinochet.
    If anyone hasn't seen it, I highly recommend checking it out.







    On the frames from the film, our T-44, made up for the American M-47 Patton-II tank.
    1. +4
      11 August 2022 06: 29
      Quote: Sea Cat
      In 1078 year
      Before Christmas? Joke, Konstantin! ))
      And for the tip on the Gran Mercy movie, it looks like a worthwhile movie. So finish 44-ku, it shows a sour budget.
      1. +6
        11 August 2022 06: 46
        Never mind, I didn't even notice. laughing That's what insomnia means.

        There are many good actors there - Adomaitis, Gaft, but I can’t remember all of them. smile
    2. +10
      11 August 2022 06: 33
      Good morning! Uncle Kostya! Why not a bad movie? Very good. In the USSR, the Chilean director Sebastian Alarcon worked, he made such films as: Night over Chile, Santa Esperanza, Fall of the Condor, Winning a lone businessman, Jaguar. He died on June 30, 2019 in Moscow.
      1. +5
        11 August 2022 06: 52
        Hi Aleksey! smile

        Haven't seen any of these films. And Žalakyavičius had another film about Latin America - "This sweet word is freedom", also a great film.

        1. +2
          11 August 2022 17: 31
          Haven't seen any of these films.
          Very good, I recommend
    3. +2
      11 August 2022 08: 09
      Thanks for the link, I'll watch the 11th century movie lol
      It is clear that a little mistake, but the movie really wanted to look.
      1. +2
        11 August 2022 08: 45
        It so happened that in early September I watched the film "This is the sweet word of freedom" and just a couple of days later a message on all channels about a coup in Chile.
        Hi Kostya!
        Very hurt.
        1. +4
          11 August 2022 09: 09
          Good morning, Sasha! smile

          As a director, I really liked Žalakyavičius since his film Nobody Wanted to Die, he is a talented artist.
          I remember a conversation between my son and his mother there, my mother laments that this is the time and the Lithuanians are killing each other, maybe, she says, enough is enough for all of you already. And the son answers her: "I'm a soldier, mom, when I can not shoot, I don't shoot,"

          1. +4
            11 August 2022 09: 50
            When I first saw this movie, of course, I didn't understand anything. Like partisans on both sides.
            60-70 g. This is the era of Lithuanian cinema in the USSR, excellent directors and chic actors. A triumph that the Lithuanians will probably never repeat.
            The second time I saw this movie was in the early 80s. It was a completely different movie for me. I already talked then with the Balts, who fought on the "other side", mainly Latvians. Much becomes clear when things are viewed from two sides.
            A very strong film, and it was filmed when the participants in the war were all practically alive.
            1. +1
              11 August 2022 10: 08
              Yes, to an inexperienced eye, everything is simple there, in the village the "good" ones are for us, in the forest the "bad" ones, they are against it. And only then you begin to understand that everyone has "their own truth."
              1. VLR
                +7
                11 August 2022 10: 14
                In Lithuania, the Lithuanians themselves recognized the events of the film "Nobody Wanted to Die" as reliable, and this film was received very favorably. Even then they remembered the atrocities of the "forest brothers", from which not only the Russians got it, but also many locals. who just wanted to live in peace. It was then that they began to "rewrite history" and declare sadists heroes.
                1. +4
                  11 August 2022 10: 29
                  My maternal uncle, a Lithuanian, was a SMERSH officer during the war and the first post-war years, so I know something about the events in Lithuania at that time not from school textbooks. This film, by the way, he highly appreciated.
                2. +5
                  11 August 2022 10: 29
                  It was then that they began to "rewrite history" and declare sadists heroes.
                  So not only in Lithuania alone, but also in other post-Soviet republics. In Russia, it has its own "mulka", special officer-chekist-gebist, in modern films - "bloody hell". They prevent the main characters from defeating the enemy. Yes Yes, and the USSR is shown as a country that interfered with life.
                  1. VLR
                    +5
                    11 August 2022 10: 54
                    By the way, in the 90s we followed the path of Ukraine and the Baltic states: monuments were brought down, streets and entire settlements were renamed, "decommunization" was carried out, There were very serious attempts to rehabilitate Vlasov, Shkuro, Krasnov, Denikin, Kolchak and others, which were partially crowned success. Solzhenitsyn was introduced into the school curriculum. I then, in 2004, entered into a discussion with a certain Kirill Alexandrov from St. Petersburg (whom the Ministry of Education and Science in 2016 refused to award a doctorate in historical sciences for a dissertation, on the Vlasov movement) - just according to Vlasov. I published in the journal "History" an article "A man from a quagmire", he answered - "A traitor or an honest soldier", I replied with an article "A traitor cannot be the savior of the Fatherland."
                    After that, by the way, some publications began to thank me in writing for each submitted work and print it out of turn.
                    But attempts are still being made to turn Russia onto the path of condemning everything Soviet and praising the opponents of Soviet power. For example, the false film "Admiral", in which the hysterical drug addict and psychopath Kolchak, who almost rolled on the floor with foam at the mouth, is presented as an impeccable hero. The film "There once was a woman", filmed with the money of Channel 1 (hello to K. Ernst, who cannot be kicked out of Channel One), released in 2011, was given 7 figurines of "Nika".
                    In 2019, the channel "Russia1" released the series "Zuleikha opens her eyes" with the traitor Khamatova in the title role. Much can be said about this.
                    1. +3
                      11 August 2022 11: 07
                      "New" old countries need new "old" heroes. More "human". In the sense that black males are washed white, according to the principle, "and you, not so bad, the one who is sitting in the pond" (with )
                    2. VLR
                      +4
                      11 August 2022 11: 10
                      Concerning attempts of revenge of liberals in modern Russia. In the small Tarusa of the Kaluga region, the "democratic authorities" in 2020 decided to "decommunize 15 streets and one square. After the indignation of local residents, the decision was canceled. And the initiator of the "decommunization" is Ruslan Smolensky (by the way, he was born in Vilnius in 1974), the former head of the district, on March 13, 2022, he was hired by the administration of the governor of the Kaluga region - he began to oversee issues of assistance to refugees from the DPR and LPR.
                      1. +4
                        11 August 2022 11: 39
                        the initiator of "decommunization" - Ruslan Smolensky (by the way, was born in Vilnius in 1974), the former head of the district, on March 13, 2022, was hired by the administration of the governor of the Kaluga region - began to oversee issues of assistance to refugees from the DPR and LPR.


                        Such "valuable personnel" in modern Russia do not disappear and do not remain without work - unless they decide to run away from it themselves.
                    3. +5
                      11 August 2022 14: 39
                      Quote: VlR
                      traitor Khamatova

                      Okay traitor. laughing
                      We simply do not have the Israeli culture of supporting the army and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief during the war, which, by the way, can turn into the most severe criticism, up to early elections, on the cessation of hostilities. And Khamatova and others do not know how to correctly express their civic position in difficult times for the country, who made her a person, because of the immaturity of society as such. This is due to the youth of the country and the lack of a national idea.
                      1. +2
                        11 August 2022 14: 55
                        And Khamatova and others do not know how to correctly express their civic position in difficult times for the country, which made her a man

                        She is not alone, there is another frame, Alexei Serebryakov. On the advice of a friend, Alexander Marina, also an actor and friend of Khamatova, he moved to Canada, 15 years already, but due to the peculiarities of his mind, he still has not learned English, which says a lot, but tries to "think" about the country. By the way, both Serebryakov and Marin earn money in Russia, they are smarter than Khamatova, but not smarter. Khamatova herself is now crying about money.
                      2. +4
                        11 August 2022 14: 59
                        There are many of those. And even more of those who tried to see on two chairs, living and earning money in the Russian Federation, spending them in the West. These are generally in mourning - life collapsed laughing Although it was already clear to me that all this was temporary.
                      3. +2
                        11 August 2022 15: 50
                        This is due to the youth of the country and the lack of a national idea.
                        As well as the "stage theory".)))
                      4. +2
                        11 August 2022 16: 17
                        Well, yes, the collective unconscious according to Jung))
                      5. +3
                        11 August 2022 17: 20
                        Nefiga is not according to Jung, this is according to Vashchenko!
                    4. 0
                      11 August 2022 15: 14
                      Valery, out of harm: Kolchak is interesting to me. Bright person.
                      Ernst, after February 24, took water in the mouth, Khamatova screwed up. Regarding Zuleika, I slipped into my stepfather's brother, I amuse him, he drove me to the village. There is no clear assessment of the film. Many people like it, but I did not see hatred for the Russians, Stalin and Putin.
                      True, in one yard, the elder sent his grandson with me, and he took a gun. It was the only dark spot.
                      In general, "Zuleika" is not held in high esteem. I don’t know about the Admiral: my stepfather and mother scold him, but I didn’t ask his relatives
                      1. 0
                        14 August 2022 18: 32
                        Quote from lisikat2
                        Kolchak is interesting to me. Bright person.

                        It is interesting to read together as an ally in the fight against the Bolsheviks and at the same time irreconcilable mortal enemies in the struggle for power "Protocols of interrogation of Admiral Kolchak" and Viktor Chernov's memoirs. Both express gratitude to the Bolsheviks for their victory; Kolchak for the victory over the right SRs and V. Chernov, Chernov for the victory over Kolchak.
                3. +2
                  11 August 2022 10: 36
                  Read books about the war by Ruta Vanagaite. Looks like they've been transferred.
                  There is also truth
              2. +3
                11 August 2022 10: 32
                This must be reached.
                In the winter of 2020 (January-February), I met Alexander on vacation, he himself has long retired, lives in Ukhta. He has his own dump truck based on the 130th. It works for a season, and then flies for a couple of months in the winter to the warm sea. We got talking.
                It turns out that after the camps in their region, many Lithuanians remained from prisoners of war. They married Russians and almost all of them changed their last names. But during perestroika, everyone left.
                1. +1
                  11 August 2022 10: 53
                  We did not have Lithuanian prisoners of war, because the Lithuanians did not serve either in the Wehrmacht or in the SS, unlike other Baltic states. Perhaps they mean persons from punitive battalions, there were such people, but they had nothing to do with the fighting, but most likely they are all the same "forest brothers".
                  1. +4
                    11 August 2022 11: 08
                    Maybe I didn't specify. The police in Lithuania were naturally from Lithuanians.
                    Ruta Vanagaite writes in her book that there were about 2 Germans in Lithuania during WW1000. This is everything from the top to the groom and the cook.
              3. 0
                12 August 2022 21: 47
                Quote: Sea Cat
                that everyone has their own truth

                yes, some go for fertilizer in the form of ashes, others fertilize their fields with this ashes
                1. +2
                  13 August 2022 00: 44
                  This was not always the case and not in every country, and it makes no sense to confuse the Civil War with a war of annihilation, with the one waged against our country by Hitler's Germany.
          2. +2
            11 August 2022 14: 26
            "No one wanted to die * a clear film and the weapon shoots t as it should, otherwise it can take hundreds of rounds. Are you surprised when it overcharges?
    4. +3
      11 August 2022 09: 36
      In 1078 we released a very good film "Centaurs".
      Filmed at the film studio named after Yaroslav the Wise or at the film factory of the Novgorod Republic? smile (yes, obviously a typo. hi)
      1. +3
        11 August 2022 10: 04
        Vladimir, up there, suggested that the filming was generally conducted before the birth of Christ. smile I'm glad that inadvertently amused the people. Yes
        1. +4
          11 August 2022 10: 18
          [b
          ]Vladimir, up there, suggested that the filming was generally conducted before the birth of Christ.
          [/b] He got excited. smile
          1. +2
            11 August 2022 10: 30
            But it turned out funny. smile
            1. +4
              11 August 2022 11: 11
              And for this "apolitical" and harmless phrase, someone slapped you a minus! laughing Yes, and I picked up minuses for my joke. laughing Well, this is probably one of those who believe that it is a sin to laugh at a time like this. laughing
              1. +1
                11 August 2022 19: 47
                got minuses for his joke


                Hamsters take away the soul, they have nothing to say and cannot, poor fellows. laughing
    5. +2
      11 August 2022 14: 17
      Kostya, hello, look at the date: 1078. Did you happen to taste the liqueurs tonight? Joke.
      I remember this movie
  4. +9
    11 August 2022 05: 54
    The government of Salvador Allende began to carry out reforms unprecedented in Chile - building affordable housing for the poor, providing people from working families with the opportunity to receive education and medical care, and so on. The socially oriented policy was accompanied by large-scale nationalization, including in the extractive industries, where Allende "stepped on the tail" of representatives of foreign businesses, including American ones. Thus, Allende signed his own verdict.
    1. +2
      11 August 2022 06: 40
      Socially oriented policy in the conditions of Latin America, such a thing, very similar to Russian social reforms. By the way, something similar is happening now in Ecuador.
      1. +1
        11 August 2022 06: 45
        Socially oriented policy in the conditions of Latin America, such a thing, very similar to Russian social reforms

        Well, in the USSR, a socially oriented policy was very good!
        Or do you have today's RF?
        1. +1
          11 August 2022 06: 47
          That's right!
        2. +1
          11 August 2022 14: 53
          Quote: Luminman
          in the USSR, a socially oriented policy was very good!

          In the absence of social equality, it turned out very mediocre.
          1. -1
            11 August 2022 16: 07
            Quote: Krasnodar
            In the absence of social equality, it turned out very mediocre

            Yes, and social equality was too. There was no sausage...
            1. 0
              11 August 2022 16: 19
              Special distributors and special clinics for party functionaries are not a sign of equality, because in the first sausage was still)).
              1. +2
                11 August 2022 16: 22
                Special distributors and special clinics for party functionaries are not a sign of equality

                Divisions in society have been and will always be. In any case, there was no such inequality as there was now, and this greatly undermines the foundations of the state ...
                1. 0
                  11 August 2022 16: 27
                  But now no one proclaims a society of universal equality - earn up to a million bucks a year, stay out of politics, capitalize your business up to a billion rubles - and you will be happy and no one is interested in you, live and get high Yes
                  1. 0
                    11 August 2022 16: 37
                    earn up to a million bucks a year, stay out of politics

                    It is impossible to earn millions and not get involved in politics. And this is true not only for Russia
                    1. -1
                      11 August 2022 16: 43
                      Perhaps more like. And not only in Russia))))
      2. +1
        11 August 2022 17: 23
        It was cool back then
        1. VLR
          +5
          11 August 2022 18: 39
          When you look back, you understand that the privileges of even high-ranking party officials were penny, that they could not even dream of what the current ones, even with a rank much lower, could afford. But they so arrogantly ate their Finnish cervelat from the special distributor and with such contempt for those around them got into the black service Volgas ... It was, among other things, for this their arrogance that ordinary party members did not defend the CPSU.
    2. -1
      11 August 2022 14: 52
      Quote: parusnik
      The socially oriented policy was accompanied by large-scale nationalization, including in the extractive industries, where Allende "stepped on the tail" of representatives of foreign business, including American.

      He also stepped on the tail of his own peasants very strongly
  5. +3
    11 August 2022 06: 42
    Both Allende and Pinochet himself are ambiguous figures in Chile. They have both ardent supporters and ardent opponents. Like our Stalin. Like Franco in Spain, and Salazar in Portugal...
  6. +3
    11 August 2022 07: 42
    I watched a report about an air raid, then it seemed like a wild event. Now I wouldn't be surprised.
  7. +1
    11 August 2022 08: 30
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3xfeSWVgF1w
  8. +3
    11 August 2022 08: 42
    By the way, A. Pinochet's book "Geopolitics" has been translated into Russian. Pretty sensible book, written then by a simple officer. He spoke well of Russia.
    Allende's books were also translated under the USSR (for example, "The struggle of the people of Chile ...").
  9. +4
    11 August 2022 08: 45
    September 11, 1973 is considered the day of the defeat of the government of Salvador Allende, who was the victim of the putsch generals. But it is not so. We can say that it lost much earlier. Namely, when the Popular Unity practically abandoned the program, thanks to which it won the elections. At first, it acted calmly and more or less harmoniously. But, unfortunately, the extremist wing of the Socialist Party soon took over in the bloc of left forces. Its general secretary, Carlos Altamirano, was sure that a revolution had begun in the country, although there were no prerequisites for this. It was under his pressure that the government announced its intention to create a socialist society in Chile as soon as possible. Naturally, such actions did not cause enthusiasm among a significant part of the population , because Chile - by two thirds at that time it was a country of small and medium-sized businesses.
    1. 0
      11 August 2022 14: 50
      "Altamirano" General Secretary of the Communist Party of Chile - Alvaro Cunhal.
      I read that he had plastic surgery to lead the partisan movement in Chile, but NOBODY wanted to fight. This is true?
      1. +2
        11 August 2022 15: 25
        First, Alvaro Cunhal, writer, general secretary of the Portuguese Communist Party in 1961-1992. Secondly, Luis Corvalan, General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Chile, a supporter of building socialism in a non-violent way, became one of the organizers of the Popular Unity bloc in 1969. When he returned to Chile illegally, he approved the creation of the armed wing of the CPC, the Patriotic Front named after Manuel Rodriguez, as a way to overthrow the dictatorship of Pinochet. Later, it became an organization separate from the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia. During the military dictatorship, it made assassination attempts on Pinochet. It acted mainly in cities, had no support in rural areas. In the late 1980s, the Front split into two factions. There were enough people who wanted to fight against the dictatorship of Pinochet. In addition to the PF, there were other armed organizations.
        1. VLR
          +1
          11 August 2022 16: 27
          Second place went to Cunhal in the national vote to determine the greatest Portuguese - 19,1% of the vote. Lost to Salazar, who has as much as 41%.
        2. 0
          12 August 2022 09: 04
          So you messed up. It was all before me
  10. +2
    11 August 2022 09: 54
    Article plus! Allende is a hero and a real man!
  11. +1
    11 August 2022 12: 15
    And they say there are no social elevators under capitalism ....
    From regiment commander to deputy head of the academy ....
    1. 0
      11 August 2022 17: 53
      And they say there are no social elevators under capitalism .... From the regiment commander to the deputy head of the academy ....

      The army is different...
      1. 0
        11 August 2022 19: 39
        Quote: Luminman
        And they say there are no social elevators under capitalism .... From the regiment commander to the deputy head of the academy ....

        The army is different...

        That is, when they say that the army is a section of society, a lie?????!!!!!
        And in the army of Chile or in the Bundeswehr - is there socialism with social lifts? belay
        Or a joke about
        "- and the marshal has his own granddaughters .." (c)
        invented not in the SA of the USSR?
        1. 0
          11 August 2022 19: 53
          That is, when they say that the army, a section of society, is a gap?

          Not really. It's just that in a class society it is easiest for a person "from the bottom" to move up the military ladder.
  12. +4
    11 August 2022 12: 38
    I liked the article in general. True, the most difficult and slippery moments associated with the assessment of the activities of Allende and Pinochet are ahead of us, but it will be all the more interesting to see how Valery copes with them. smile
    I won't get ahead of myself in this comment. We look forward to continuing. smile
  13. -1
    11 August 2022 13: 08
    Pinochet, "born in the family of a poor official" and "wealthy socialist" Allende.
    Here immediately and a cross for you, and panties.
    Alledes come and go, but you always want Pinochets. Style icon.
  14. +3
    11 August 2022 13: 12
    Good afternoon. Valery, boys, I have an unusual request:
    Tell us about modern political movements.
    I'll tell you about myself: the stepfather of the Communist Party, but the elder ordered and he was voting with Putin, the mother-in-law is right: give the Crimea, give the fleet, give 15 years of reparations to Ukraine, give the northern territories. Svekoro ER. Voted for retirees.
    Help me figure it out: the communists are at enmity with each other, I was at a meeting, there is no unity.
    I added
    For justice, but categorically against the dictatorship of one party. I don't like that the European left is looking into the mouth of the US.
    Are there parties that take into account national interests?
    From history, I like the esdeks. Probably because of Karl Liebknecht's Rosa Luxembourg.?
    1. 0
      11 August 2022 13: 41
      Quote from lisikat2
      Tell us about modern political movements.

      There are no political movements in the political swamp. Everything rots in the swamp. When it rots, there will be an explosion.
      1. 0
        11 August 2022 14: 44
        Very cute. The answer gives an old chest of drawers.
        In the 21st century, naphthalene, in whatever form it is, is the century before last!
        I am categorically against explosions!!!
        1. 0
          13 August 2022 14: 18
          Quote from lisikat2
          I am categorically against explosions!!!

          I strongly support!!!
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      1. 0
        12 August 2022 09: 07
        There can be no party without a leader.
    3. +3
      11 August 2022 15: 41
      Alas, a lot has sunk into oblivion, and specifically at the end of the 80s, when M.S. Gorbachev announced a policy of national reconciliation and began to strain the revolutionaries of various regions to come to terms with the existing regimes in their countries. Farabando Marti, controlled 80% of the country's territory, it was going to overthrow the regime, in Guatemala the RVS (Revolutionary Armed Forces) and the TNF forgot who's name, controlled about 70% and things were going the same way, but sat down at the negotiating table. Again, revolutionary movements different. For example, in Peru, the Shining Path or Sendero Luminoso, a Maoist organization that switched to armed guerrilla struggle in the 1980s, operated. But Shining Path Maoism was never popular and did not have the support of most Peruvians. The peasants began an armed struggle against the Maoists. Having lost support, the organization was liquidated by the government.
      1. 0
        12 August 2022 09: 14
        I read about "Lumineso" in some detective story. There's the main character: a CIA agent, Prince Malko. The Peruvian authorities are the worst scum, and the "lumineso" is even a pity.
    4. 0
      11 August 2022 18: 42
      Very interesting - why exactly "15 years of reparations"?
      1. +1
        12 August 2022 07: 27
        She is constantly talking about it. We don't listen anymore.
        I sometimes tease: pretend to be an idiot and ask idiotic questions
        1. VLR
          +1
          12 August 2022 07: 42
          I had an aunt in Kyiv, a purebred Russian who came to Ukraine with her military husband and after the collapse of the Union became Ukrainian nationalist, her sister and niece were very shy. At the same time, this transformation went in parallel with senile personality changes, and the higher the degree of insanity, the more were her Russophobic moods. Since then, I have clearly associated "svidomity" with senile dementia.
    5. 0
      11 August 2022 19: 09
      Quote from lisikat2
      Tell us about modern political movements.

      Very nice question, Katya. I can't help but react to such touching spontaneity. smile
      In modern Russia, if there are political parties, I personally do not know anything about them. What is officially called such is not a party, but a group of lobbyists for the interests of these same corporations put together by financial and industrial corporations. The true goal of these "parties" is to ensure the political interests of their "sponsors", nothing more.
      The vast majority of those whom we see in the political arena in our country are just puppets, put on invisible hands and speaking in a voice that is not their own, since they do not have their own voice. A sort of puppet theater in which all the most important and interesting actions take place behind a screen and are unlikely to ever become public.
      In the USA, by the way, the situation is almost the same, here we are "in the trend", which, in general, is not surprising, given who wrote our Constitution in 93. smile
      So, if you want to get involved in politics, I recommend that you create your own party, and not try to join something that has already been created. All these existing parties are already working out someone else's interests, and certainly not yours. smile
      And if you create it, make sure that no slippery hand touches or even comes close to your ass. In politics, no one wants to just gently spank or gently stroke you - you won’t even notice how this very slippery hand will be inside you, clamp your vocal cords with an iron grip and you will instantly turn into another doll that will immediately fly up over the screen in the spotlight to thunderous applause from the audience.
      smile
      I hope I answered your question. smile
      1. +1
        11 August 2022 19: 36
        For example, the change of prime ministers during the Yeltsin era was very indicative. The immortal was remembered:

        After all, you are just a deck of cards! A deck of cards - nothing else!
        1. +1
          12 August 2022 09: 46
          The political struggle of the Yeltsin era was reduced to undercover intrigues of a limited group of people admitted "to the court."
          Now, under Putin, we have reached a new level - the country is ruled not by a bunch of irresponsible intriguers, but by a group of quite adequate and responsible persons - the owners of the largest fortunes and a significant part of the means of production. The only trouble is that the own interests of these persons are, as a rule, in deep conflict with the interests of people, that is, you and me.
      2. 0
        12 August 2022 09: 01
        Michael, you say terrible things.
        Don't worry about my butt: I'm always in control. They made me a "keychain", and there was a steel sting: 0, 3mm by 0,5. Nobody wants to try
        1. 0
          12 August 2022 09: 36
          laughing
          Glad you are taking this matter so seriously. smile
          At one time I had some experience of political work at the most grassroots level (I was on the team of one candidate) and came to the conclusion that a "steel sting" in this sensitive place is simply necessary for anyone who tries to get into politics. Otherwise, the slippery hand of business immediately penetrates into the deepest depths of human nature and a person is transformed right before our eyes - the initial desire to change something for the better for everyone will inevitably transform into a desire to change something for the better exclusively for themselves and their loved ones. As a result, even an initially honest person becomes just a doll, put on someone's hand, which raises him above the political screen.
          Your "know-how" with a steel sting should be made mandatory for constant use by all politicians of any level, up to regular medical examinations - whether they have stolen or lost ...
          Consider that you recruited the first supporter in your future party. smile
          1. 0
            13 August 2022 08: 42
            So I don't wear a keychain there.
      3. 0
        12 August 2022 20: 36
        Fabulous!! My applause hi !!
        The only small moment .... IMHO, the stump is bright .... If you want to create your own party, you should take care to get acquainted with a decent psychiatrist ..... Well, so be it ... Among them there are quite interesting people feel
        1. +1
          13 August 2022 10: 26
          If I create my own party, I will take care, first of all, of getting to know a good killer. And probably no one else is needed.
          1. 0
            13 August 2022 11: 07
            With one? Colleague, and you are an optimist))
            And as for the psychiatrist, the speech stood for the fact that in the event of ... the usual course of events wink it will always be possible .... to rest .... from the bustle of the world wink And not where usual, especially since everything is in order with the fuss feel
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    1. 0
      12 August 2022 20: 21
      Without touching on issues of high politics, issues of the inferiority of Allende himself (as well as Pinochet)) and much more .... As for "hundreds of activists of the Communist Party and the Socialist Party of Chile received "special training" from the Soviet Chekists, including in the art of blowing up residential buildings.
      Moscow reliably supplied Luis Corvalan and his associates with mines, explosives, weapons, and money. How many people died as a result of their revolutionary activities, no one remembers." There would be some proofs ....
      without whitewashing some in a crowd and without denigrating others (a lot), I would still like some details .... Otherwise, some out there say that the Chilean comrades asked for weapons, but the greedy USSR did not give them ......
    2. 0
      24 August 2022 13: 44
      LCA:
      Cho t, you, as always, wrote many letters, but about nothing. Pinochet simply realized his ambitions by seizing power. An ordinary careerist campaigner, offended by the authorities and possessing the resources for a state coup. And he did nothing good - he spread corruption and blasphemy, imprisoned half the country and shot and tortured a tenth of it, gave American companies complete freedom in the country. His only achievement is a black belt in karate.
  16. +4
    11 August 2022 17: 20
    Quote: kytx
    Uncle are you sick? Coca is a local endemic.

    You don’t need to be rude .. From the word at all, besides, older people
    1. +2
      11 August 2022 18: 45
      The man doesn't even have a sense of humor. laughing Is it worth it to pay attention to such, from the word at all. laughing
  17. Mwg
    -1
    12 August 2022 18: 48
    Salvador Guillermo Allende Gossens was born on June 26, 1908 - Monkey - Cancer - Teacher and Philosopher. Himself like that. Sorry man...
  18. Mwg
    0
    12 August 2022 18: 51
    Augusto Jose Ramon Pinochet Ugarte ... (born November 25, 1915) - Cat and Sagittarius - like Stalin ... But not Stalin ...
    “As a child, a boy was hit by a car, and he almost became disabled: doctors seriously considered the possibility of amputating his leg. At an early age, he was impressionable” - Stalin was hit by a phaeton and his arm was injured, he wrote poetry ... Well, isn’t astrology a science?
  19. Mwg
    0
    12 August 2022 19: 04
    Here it is classic American politics: on one side is the cover of Time magazine. on the other hand, hundreds of thousands of dollars to overthrow. two-faced nonhumans
    1. 0
      12 August 2022 20: 30
      Scoundrels, the right word .... Well, there are simply no words, what scoundrels (c)
      Is it a great and bright thing ....

  20. -1
    12 August 2022 20: 09
    Pinochet raised military salaries 13 times! Plus the disunity of the electorate. Filtration camp at the stadium of the capital, executions and disappearances of "real violent", breaking fingers of opposition artists (Viktor Khara). That's all calmed down. Who survived.
    1. 0
      13 August 2022 14: 21
      Quote: Trunk
      Pinochet raised military salaries 13 times!

      And now indexed or left as it is?
      I see you are downright fascinated by Pinochet.
      1. 0
        15 August 2022 06: 56
        What are you talking about now? Pinochet could. And pretty fast. I'm not fascinated by liberals. In any country.
  21. 0
    13 August 2022 16: 01
    Quote: TEX-50
    I have no idea.

    Then why talk nonsense?
  22. 0
    18 August 2022 23: 13
    awtor nesowmenno komunist Pinochet istinnyj geroj kubanskuju kuklu ubral juznuju Ameriku od komunisticznogo ada spasl
  23. 0
    18 August 2022 23: 17
    Quote: frog
    what rascals

    krasnyje negodaji i general spasitel primer dla wsech wlastwujuszczich sezon ohoty na komunistow naczalsa byt po semu
  24. 0
    18 August 2022 23: 21
    Quote: MVG
    strology is not a science?

    szczitajete astrologju naukoj sowetuju k wraczu obratitsa
  25. 0
    24 August 2022 13: 52
    And now I will pour a bucket of cold water on the defenders of Pinochet and Allende. As always, economics is behind politics. It's not about Allende's familiarity with the USSR and Cuba. First, Allende began to introduce a system of automated economic management. First in the world! But he didn't. This system would allow to open and block a bunch of suspicious deals. Secondly, but seriously pinched the tail of American companies, and they do not forgive this. After all, these are the masters of Latin America!
    Allende's main mistake was straightforwardness. He did not take into account that in any Latin American country, no matter what "democracy" there is, the military is the most important political force in the country. And military number one - Pinochet - he offended. And he took revenge on him severely. And as for the cruelest regime - this always happens when unlimited power falls into the hands of a "small" notorious little man. And politics has nothing to do with it. Those who praise Pinochet, do not be ridiculous, he did nothing worthwhile in his life, except that he received a black belt in karate. By the way, he was very lucky that he was not judged. For most of the Chileans he offended (if not killed)