Russia has developed a new version of the armored car "VPK-Ural" with improved protection

The Russian developer of armored vehicles, the Military Industrial Company, is ready to present a new version of the VPK-Ural armored vehicle with increased protection. The armored car is planned to be shown at the Army-2022 forum, which will be held from August 15 to 21 in Kubinka near Moscow.

The new version of the VPK-Ural armored car differs from the basic model by the absence of a frame on which the entire structure was built. As explained in the company, thanks to this, a gain was obtained in the mass of the vehicle, which was redirected to increase the security of the armored car. If the base model provided mine protection against an explosive device equivalent to six kg of TNT, then the new one is already eight. Armor of the engine compartment and cockpit protects against armor-piercing bullets of 7,62 × 54 mm caliber, installation of additional armor screens is provided.

During the CBO, a new modification of the VPK-Ural armored car was developed, one of which will be shown at Army-2022. We are talking about "VPK-Ural" with a load-bearing body. If earlier the car was purely on the "Ural" frame with a chassis, then in the current modification a load-bearing armored body is used, on which nodes and elements of the chassis are attached

- leads RIA News source words.

Armored car "VPK-Ural" was first presented at the international military-technical forum "Army-2019". Wheel formula - 4X4, weight - 14 kg. Length - 500 mm, width - 6 mm, height - 500 mm. Ground clearance - 2 mm. A domestic turbodiesel YaMZ-550 was installed, developing a power of 2 horsepower. The maximum speed is 800 km / h, the power reserve is declared at 400 km. The armored car is designed to carry 536 people in full gear. Special anti-traumatic chairs with seat belts are installed.

In January of this year, it was reported that the Russian Guard had completed tests of the VPK-Ural armored car. The armored car is also supplied to a foreign customer in the Middle East.

Comments

[Nexcom]

Most likely, the armored body became a load-bearing one, since the ort frames were abandoned.
The idea is not new - Ilyushin on his Il-2 at one time made the armored hull of the cockpit and engine compartment in the form of a single capsule to which the left and right planes and a wooden tail were attached. there was not even a motor frame - the motor was attached to the armored capsule.

Well, if the security of the object has really improved, then well done.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Nexcom

Most likely, the armored body became a load-bearing one, since the ort frames were abandoned.

And there are no other options, bearing or frame or body. But in the case of a body, the versatility of the chassis is reduced.

[Nexcom]

Yes, that's what we're talking about. And what for this versatility? For modules? For me, it’s better to let the crew be more protected, and they’ll still stamp different pieces of iron - the work will be for the factory workers. What is bad then?

And there are no other options, bearing or frame or body

Yes, why ... The body can also be semi-supporting, this is when the suspension is assembled on separate subframes, and the subframes themselves are already attached to the body, i.e. there is no single framework.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Nexcom

And what for this versatility? For modules?

Armored car as in the photo and not really. But if we consider it as a truck or as a chassis for equipment or weapons (MLRS, guns, air defense there), then that's it. unification again.

Quote: Nexcom

this is when the suspension is assembled on separate subframes, and the subframes themselves are already attached to the body, i.e. there is no single framework.

The semi-bearing was abandoned almost without using. But here there is a frameless version - but not with a load-bearing body, but with a load-bearing base, so it is promising in terms of versatility, as it seems to me.

[loki565]

But if we consider it as a truck or as a chassis for equipment or weapons (MLRS, guns, air defense there), then that's it.

Yes, it is too small for air defense and MLRS. most likely a foreign customer needs an MRAP, well, it won’t hurt us either)))

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: loki565

Yes, it is too small for air defense and MLRS

Well, yes, specifically this is an armored car.

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Armored car as in the photo and not really.

[28st region]

In modern conditions, vehicles of this class are only needed as rear ones, for towing artillery systems, MLRS, maybe something air defense. As combat vehicles they are nothing.
During the SVO, it became clear that BMDs as combat vehicles do not justify themselves, and if you believe the former special forces soldier, now the blogger Razvedos (Alexander Arutyunov), then the airborne troops refuse to fight on the BMD-2, and the BMD-3/4 is not particularly popular, because. practically differ from the previous generation only in armament. But for some reason, such machines are not being developed. Wild funds are spent on something like Armata, Kurganets ... which have also been in the army for more than 10 years only in the form of booklets.

[Genry]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

chassis versatility is reduced.

Is the versatility of the car itself reduced?
The whole car is already considered a platform for different applications, with different equipment.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Genry

The whole car is already considered a platform for different applications, with different equipment.

No load-bearing body. For example, modifications of a load-bearing body such as a sedan - such as a coupe, cargo or the notorious heel, require reinforcement and often design changes, because the rigidity of the body is broken. But these machines carry approximately the same load as the original one.

[Laksamana besar]

Most likely, the armored body became a load-bearing one, since the ort frames were abandoned.

Actually, that's what it says in the news. :

... the current modification uses load-bearing armored hull, on which nodes and elements of the chassis are attached.

[rotmistr60]

Good protection, excellent cross-country ability, ease of operation - that's what an armored car needs in the first place. If it matches, then good luck.

[kristofer]

if you look at the headlights, the question arises - how to scrape dirt out of the niches under the headlights? the complex shape of the front fenders is the rise in the cost of molds and the complication of body repairs. designers frolic

[Sergey3]

And you didn’t notice what kind of stray they always put on the headlights of military vehicles, this slot for directing the light flux is implemented here. It must have been even harder to scrape the dirt out before.

[ruha]

Dirt is one thing, everything is done according to the mind, but they finally paid attention to the design. In the USSR, everything was done only functionally, but what about design functions? No, we don't know.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Folding cabs, like Kamazovskaya, are made according to European restrictions on the length of a road train. What is the functionality here? Functionality is American bonneted trucks, or the Ural described here.
The slope of the windshield, like that of the VAZ 2106, is functionality, and the littered windshield, like that of the VAZ-2109, is just a design misunderstanding. So it was different before.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

The slope of the windshield, like that of the VAZ 2106, is functionality, and the littered windshield, like that of the VAZ-2109, is just a design misunderstanding.

You tell this to the Porsche specialists who invented the figure eight.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

And the windows littered back on river boats of the Moskva type, because of which there was a real gas chamber inside on sunny days, is it possible to show the Porsche designers?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Serbgey Aleksandrovich

there was a real gas chamber inside,

I don't remember the gas chamber

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

I can help refresh your memory.

In the photograph, even the windows in front, due to which the gas chamber was formed, are prudently covered with pictures. Photo directly from Wikipedia, the problem is obvious. Even the captain's cabin was not spared by free artists and there is an obscene slope of the windows.
Design can be extraordinarily detrimental, to the point of outright operational problems.
A copious amount of minuses, as I understand it, are collected from individuals who have never had the pleasure of riding the motor ships Moscow inside on a sunny day.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

inside on a sunny day.

I just rode it outside.

[Luminman]

I wonder what his fuel consumption is?

[Nexcom]

Probably such that the ensign will not personally offend himself with fuel.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

The problem, if desired, is solved by taking readings from the on-board computer.

[Nexcom]

Previously, cunning ensigns twisted the mileage. Well, now it probably won't work like that.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Nexcom

Previously, cunning ensigns twisted the mileage. Well, now it probably won't work like that.

Why so? Unscrew the cable and wind ...

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

And what rope? Now the speed sensor is on the gearbox and then the wires go to the on-board computer.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

And what rope?

Which one is on the box.

[Ros 56]

A domestic turbodiesel YaMZ-536 was installed, developing a power of 360 horsepower.

You will find the rest of the data on Wiki, the Internet will help you.

[Ros 56]

So let them run in combat conditions, and not just at exhibitions. They will see what is good and what needs to be improved.

[Lykases1]

So it is. But how long will it take until the troops are saturated with them? And the fighters will still ride on the equipment of the Cold War.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ros 56

So let them run in combat conditions, and not just at exhibitions. They will see what is good and what needs to be improved.

The developers somehow guessed about it themselves, without instructions from VO users

During the course of the SVO a new modification of the armored car was developed

[Ros 56]

You need to read it correctly, and not knock the tops off and give stupid advice like - The developers somehow guessed about it themselves, without instructions from VO users
Written in Russian - During the CBO, a new modification of the armored car was developed.
And not a word was said about testing and debugging. So who is the user?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ros 56

Written in Russian - During the CBO, a new modification of the armored car was developed.
And not a word was said about testing and debugging. So who is the user?

So on the basis of what this modification was developed? Based on operation in NWO conditions of the previous model. Why is this not a test?
And before you get offended, and throw away minuses complete with stupid emoticons, find out the meaning of this word.

User (emphasis on "u") is just "user" in Shakespeare's language. Moreover, we are usually talking about a computer user.

So we are all users here.

[Nexcom]

I confess, I read diagonally.

[Graz]

now simplicity and speed of manufacture are more important than super-duper characteristics, wars are won by mass character when quantity turns into quality

[d4rkmesa]

I'm afraid that in this case there will be neither mass nor quality at the same time.

[Ros 56]

And this machine is preparing for future battles.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Such machines, as they say now, were needed yesterday.

[Ros 56]

You yourself know the saying about Russians that they harness slowly ........

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Such armored cars should have been created as soon as the KAMAZ engine appeared in the 80s, the same one that was installed on the BTR-80.

[Ros 56]

With this, not here, with this in the Moscow Region, especially if you don’t remember what happened in the country then.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Know in advance where and why to apply. It may well turn out that the problem is not in the MO, but in the weakness of the designers or the production base. And then nuclear submarines were built in the country, an armored car would, if desired, be mastered.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

In the 4x4 version, it is unlikely that the car can be used as a tractor for the MSTA-B howitzer, or even more so the Hyacinth, despite the high engine power.
At most, a D-30 howitzer can be pulled, or something lighter, like mortars on wheels.

[Genry]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

it is unlikely that the car can be used as a tractor for the MSTA-B howitzer, or even more so the Hyacinth

Why make a new technique according to an old concept?
We need self-propelled guns, including wheeled ones, with maximum automation of the firing and loading processes, with a crew of two.
Artillery is a huge job, and it must be minimized / robotized.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

He himself believed that towed artillery was yesterday. But, if you look at the reality of the SVO, then the towed guns continue to be used by both sides of the conflict, even if there are a large number of self-propelled guns. The reasons for this do not lie on the surface, it can be a simplified disguise and a lower cost and something else. So artillery tractors are still in demand.

[Graz]

both lines will always develop, both towed artillery and self-propelled, towed, precisely because it is cheaper to manufacture, this is not an unimportant factor when one self-propelled gun can be made at its price of heels, or even more towed guns

[Zaurbek]

For comparison, the regular tractor Msta-Typhoon 8x8, and the self-propelled guns are being developed on the basis of the BAZ 8x8

[forester]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Quote: Nexcom

Most likely, the armored body became a load-bearing one, since the ort frames were abandoned.

And there are no other options, bearing or frame or body. But in the case of a body, the versatility of the chassis is reduced.

There is an option - as in the Tatras, and most likely this particular option was used there

[nerovnayadoroga]

There is still a tubular central frame, but here, like on an armored personnel carrier, nothing new, you just had to look around, this is not the first time a load-bearing body like on a NIVA for an SUV

[Zaurbek]

As in the Tatra - you won’t apply ... .. there is no production of such frames and suspensions .... They must either be done, or not done, or bought. This is a complex structure.

[Sedoy]

"VPK-Ural" was first presented at the international military-technical forum "Army-2019"....
The armored car is planned to be shown at the Army-2022 forum

like this: it won’t go further than exhibitions ...
MO is not up to orders - the next army games are being held ...
"International Army Games 2022. Festivals, holidays, shows.
The International Army Games in 2022 will be held from 13 to 27 August. The schedule of games and places of passage are published on the official ... At the International Army Games, competitions are held for many types of combat units."
how do you like the ruble: "Festivals, holidays, shows."...
not up to them ...

[Sedoy]

In January of this year, it was reported that the Russian Guard had completed tests of the VPK-Ural armored car. The armored car is also supplied to a foreign customer in the Middle East.

and ours, soon to see, the ZIL-157s will be removed from storage ...

[Nexcom]

Well, I won’t say anything about the 157th, but almost all the shishigs were handed over in bulk to the Syrians.
there and just trucks and APshki, etc.
By the way, in one of the programs they showed a brief interview with a Syrian fighter, where they like our cars. Simple, do not require special care, easily repaired.
I don’t remember in which program it was shown, there was also a Syrian teenager repainting the cabin in a sandy color (shishigs all came to Syria in army green).

[Sedoy]

shishiga has proven its success...
the main drawback is a mine explosion - a guarantee of a kirdyk driver ...
I'm not saying that 157 is "bad" - the patency is excellent, but everything else is "cast iron" ...
I mean, MO does not place orders for a new one ...

[Mouse]

Where on them? To frighten the peacekeeper and take the cash register from the points ... This is not a tank or an infantry fighting vehicle.

[Zaurbek]

Protect the health of the National Guard and the police in the liberated territories. From shelling and IEDs.

[Zaurbek]

In the near future, the MRAP will become the most important vehicle and there will be a lot of them. Only difficulties with the aggregate base of trucks in the light of sanctions are frightening. Here, just, a diesel engine needs 300-500 hp and an automatic transmission is desirable.

[Mouse]

Quote: Zaurbek

Protect the health of the National Guard and the police in the liberated territories. From shelling and IEDs.

In essence, it will. Russian order will have to be restored for more than one year.

[locks]

How is it different from Typhoon 4x4? weight comparable

[Radical]

Russia has developed a new version of the armored car "VPK-Ural" with improved protection

I looked at the photo, I liked it ... probably cool guys - girls (sorry) ride on the lakes, or the sea! Headlights - what is this, for whom ?! Send them to the CBO urgently, along with those designers and leaders who accepted. and approved this fucking project. How are blackout issues observed? For whom are these "cars" in this form? Manturov, you can wheeze into the camera as much as you like - where does it matter, sociologist?