Fedot, but not that one. About the Amnesty International report on the war crimes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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Fedot, but not that one. About the Amnesty International report on the war crimes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Strange events are taking place around the report of the human rights organization Amnesty International (AI), in which for the first time accusations were made of the Ukrainian army of violating humanitarian law during the conflict with Russia. Strange already because in some Russian publications this report is positioned almost as a breakthrough. Hooray, the eyes of the West are opening!

Some fish memory is present in some. As if there were no earlier AI statements. As if the pronounced pro-Ukrainian position of this organization is not known. The report is just an attempt to beautifully bring Kyiv out of the blow or to share accusations of war crimes with Russia.



A very good and, most importantly, easily conducted information campaign. Everyone remembers the famous saying about smoke, which does not exist without fire. Due to geography, I published a message about this report in my telegram channel, probably one of the first. And in the very first message he wrote that the report was "smelly". So unobtrusively "Ukraine allows violations and the use of children's institutions as strongholds, but Russia ...".

Now, after a lapse of time, it turns out that the International Criminal Court is very interested in the shelling. And the most interesting thing is that this court works very closely with the joint investigation team. It would seem that this is quite logical. But there are nuances. A joint investigation team was created by Poland, Lithuania and... Ukraine.

What conclusions this investigation team will come to, I think, is clear to everyone. Add here the decision of the US Department of Justice to create a departmental group to help Ukraine in the investigation of Russian war crimes. This decision was made on June 21st. But few places are advertised. US Attorney General Merrick Garland only casually mentioned the group:

"The US Department of Justice will seek to use all mechanisms to bring to justice those who commit war crimes and other atrocities in Ukraine."

And everything would be fine if it were not for another name, legendary for the United States, "the legendary Nazi hunter" Eli M. Rosenbaum. It was this man who led the new group. Former director of the US Department of Justice Office of Special Investigations (OSI), director of the Department of Human Rights Strategy and Policy at the US Department of Justice. The Americans seem to be equating the Nazis and Russian soldiers.

It is this group that will provide operational assistance and advice in the field of criminal prosecution, as well as participate in the collection of evidence, forensic examinations and conduct legal analysis for the International Criminal Court.

So is this really a breakthrough and insight of the West, or is it just another campaign to denigrate Russia in the eyes of its own population? It is clear that such a campaign will not work on Russians, but for citizens of Western countries it will do. In conditions of limited truthful information, people will perceive any information as reliable.

Report as an attempt to kill the trickles of truth that make their way into the Western media


The successes of the Russian army, the work of our media, and most importantly, the appearance in foreign media of interviews with mercenaries who fled from the territory of Ukraine, with journalists who visited there and those who represent the pro-Russian side of the conflict, make the Western reader think about whether everything that is published in press.

The stories of the mercenaries about the atrocities of the Ukrainian army were too frank. Too much information leaked to the West after the defeat and capture of "Azov" in Mariupol. To believe in such a western man in the street can not. The propaganda machine works very well there, and the image of Russia, created over the past decades, plays its role.

The Americans are interesting in this regard. I would even say exemplary and indicative for our media. Not so long ago, at a briefing on June 15, again unnoticed by our media, the American Ambassador-at-Large Beth Van Shack, who is in charge of suppressing war crimes and investigating them, expressed an interesting idea.

The essence of the thought is that war crimes in any war are committed by both sides. The conflict in Ukraine is no exception. Further, it is more interesting: the Ukrainian side recognizes such violations in its army and seeks to bring the perpetrators to justice, while Russia does not recognize the existence of crimes.

Isn't it a beautiful combination? Whether there are crimes or not, it doesn't matter. In any war, they are an integral part of the database. It is not necessary to prove the existence of crimes. We just need to recognize and punish anyone. True, the American diplomat herself did not particularly bother to look for examples of such actions by Russia and Ukraine.

Let's go back to Amnesty International. So, in the visible part of the report, we see facts of violations by the AFU. The Ukrainian military use the premises of children's institutions, hospitals, educational institutions for their own needs. The fact that they are fighting from these premises is silent in the report. There were no human rights activists there at that time, which means that it is impossible to write about it.

It gives the impression of a seemingly objective view of the situation. But then again, such a strange objectivity. If Amnesty International representatives were not present at the event, do not describe the event. But... what about the opposite side? There were none on the side of the allied forces either, but they write about this side!

Now about what is happening now. The report has been published. He, for obvious reasons, did not arouse special interest. The media have been instructed or advised not to reprint the report or refer to it, as I understand it. There is no reaction from Western politicians either. Everyone is well aware that the actions of Ukrainians are sanctioned by the same people who control European politicians.

What is the result? And the result is the following. Some independent organization published some report, of which many are published almost daily. This report has no value and is not worth paying attention to. An ordinary passing article, nothing more.

Could it be otherwise? Unfortunately no. The recognition of the report, the comments of politicians and leaders of countries will automatically raise questions for Western politicians. Why does NATO support criminals? Why didn't Europe and the US react to Russia's fair arguments? Well and further, in the same spirit. That in conditions when those in power in Europe and the United States are catastrophically losing popularity and power, threatens to collapse the entire political system of the West.

The reaction of the parties to the conflict


Let's start with Kyiv. The Ukrainian authorities do not differ in intelligence and ingenuity, and therefore they reacted in Kyiv in a completely different way than the West needed. The Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine almost immediately accused Amnesty International of bias in his video message:

“This behavior of Amnesty International is not about finding and reporting the truth to the world ... Therefore, stop doing this creation of a fake reality where everyone is slightly to blame for something.”

Dmitry Podolyak, a staff PR specialist for the Zelensky government, went even further on his Twitter. He generally accused human rights activists of working for Moscow and trying to disrupt the supply of Western weapons to Ukraine! No more and no less. To be honest, these hysterical cries are completely incomprehensible to me.

Is it really incomprehensible that, by and large, the report of Western human rights activists is beneficial to Kyiv! Why? Yes, simply because if the Western media does not report at least something about the crimes of the AFU, then the leaked reports of the Russian media, briefings by the RF Ministry of Defense and reports of military correspondents will create huge problems for the image of Ukraine in the eyes of the European reader.

Moscow's reaction was perfectly demonstrated by our Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Remember his BBC interview on June 16 this year. One phrase that smears not only the Air Force, but the entire Western press on the spat on the floor:

“Do you show the results of the AFU bombing of settlements or do you not show them in your reports? You don't show it."

So, Lavrov, by the way, also said there that the Western media do not cover the criminal actions of the Ukrainian military in the Donbass and other places at all. References to the fact that Western journalists are not allowed into the combat zone, our minister considers a primitive "excuse". Those journalists who work in our country are well aware of these crimes. But they are silent...

The representative of our Defense Ministry, Deputy Minister of Defense Alexander Fomin spoke much more sharply:

“Every day, military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and nationalist battalions commit crimes that are not properly appreciated by the international community.”

“... a lot of falsifications about crimes allegedly committed by Russian military personnel are posted on the Internet.”

“Such connivance by the international community, as well as the desire of the Ukrainian authorities to hide their crimes, in our opinion, led to the tragedy in the present. the village of Yelenovka to the shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine of the place where Ukrainian prisoners of war are kept.”

Short summary


I'm not going to jump to conclusions. I believe that the published report is nothing more than a well-thought-out and well-thought-out move, among other moves, in the campaign to discredit the Russian armed forces, the Russian authorities and our state as a whole.

The reaction to the report is also quite predictable. It was not in vain that I described in detail those who today are engaged in checking the facts set out in the report. What conclusions will be drawn by these people is clear. The facts will either be falsified, or conclusions will be drawn on the basis of false facts. This has happened more than once at the highest level. Do you remember the links of Western politicians to social networks and messages of various bloggers?

On the whole, the NWO continues, as does the information war between Russia and the West. The main thing for today remains the solution of the tasks set by the Supreme before the start of the NWO. A military victory is likely to bring victory in the information war as well. You can defeat the dreamers only by providing real facts and evidence.
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  1. +5
    7 August 2022 16: 14
    Amnesty International is a kind of cesspool for officials of the State Department and the American intelligence community. Almost all important positions are occupied by retirees, temporary or permanent. Personally, it seems to me that in this way Zelensky or some part of the overplayed Ukrainian "elite" are given to understand that they can be buried. Only and everything.
    1. +5
      7 August 2022 19: 14
      Alexander, I have only one request for you - please name OUR, RUSSIAN media that objectively and constantly voice and show hostilities, and the results of the crimes of Nazis and Western mercenaries in the Donbass! We lost the info war, our rare broadcasts from the small media look like pitiful attempts to justify themselves! And the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Communications and Media should CONTINUOUSLY broadcast to the whole world from the battlefields, from the catacombs and fighting positions left by the ENEMY, in order to overwhelm the Western layman with a stream of information, make him think, and understand that it is the uk-roina that is the number one criminal on the continent!
      1. +4
        7 August 2022 19: 22
        It is possible of course. Yes, but who will let us go to the west, what realties to show? Even if something slips through, it is "Putin's propaganda". There is no particular point in fighting in this information field, they won’t hear us there and don’t want to hear us.
        1. +3
          7 August 2022 19: 41
          I think if the executions of their mercenaries were regularly shown, they would twitch there, but something with this in general, as I see it, everything came to naught, unfortunately.
          1. +2
            7 August 2022 21: 59
            Quote: Gennady Zavalov_2
            I think if the executions of their mercenaries were regularly shown, they would twitch there, but something with this in general, as I see it, everything came to naught, unfortunately.

            I agree! Mass executions of mercenaries and Nazis would immediately attract attention.
      2. 0
        8 August 2022 08: 02
        It's hard for you to understand, but the information war can only be lost when you care about what people think of you. And we don’t care about the opinion of Petty Britain, or some kind of France. They will simply be put cancer before the fact.
    2. 0
      7 August 2022 21: 42
      She asked for an apology. So there is nothing to discuss here. The enemy remained an enemy.
  2. IVZ
    +4
    7 August 2022 16: 16
    You can defeat the dreamers only by providing real facts and evidence.

    Well, it's unlikely. Who and when in the West were worried about facts and other annoying little things? The only way to win is to disavow the international institutions of the West and create an alternative in the friendly international community.
    1. +1
      7 August 2022 22: 43
      IVZ:

      -Winners are not judged!
  3. +7
    7 August 2022 16: 17
    You can defeat the dreamers only by providing real facts and evidence.

    Where did you find the dreamers there? O.S.L.S. with carrots from USA. 100 thousand proofs can be presented, they "will not notice" them
    Perhaps in the West there is a desire to distinguish between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and all sorts of national battalions, so that there is no complete demilitarization and the army of Ukraine is preserved. But let's see how it turns out. You can't trust anyone there completely.
    1. +1
      8 August 2022 08: 03
      To do this, it is necessary to save Ukraine, but the longer it resists, the less the Russian Federation has motives to do this.
  4. +2
    7 August 2022 16: 25
    That's right. Only an idiot can rely on all these Western investigations and commissions. Remember Yugoslavia. How to fight this. Yes, it's very easy to leak videos of interrogations, traces of destruction, facts of atrocities and other "exploits" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the Internet and the media.
    1. +2
      7 August 2022 18: 49
      You can merge based on the request. And if he is not? People's position has long been formed by the media and they do not need another ..
      1. +1
        7 August 2022 20: 25
        You do not underestimate the Internet. No matter how the Western media drive the aggressor into the heads of the Russian Federation, and Ukraine is the victim, people are looking for information and our task is to provide it.
    2. +2
      7 August 2022 20: 57
      Almost ineffective. Now I asked in Google in their language "crimes of Ukrainian soldiers", there is almost no result, the most recent note is from May 15, and even then nothing concrete. So the Western layman is well protected from the truth.
      1. +1
        8 August 2022 08: 08
        Bypass algorithms and other things.
  5. Eug
    +2
    7 August 2022 16: 32
    ".... full-time PR manager of the Zelensky government Dmitry Podolyak" - so in the text. All the same - Dmitry Podolyak or Mikhail Podolyak? As for me, it was Mikhail Podolyak, and Dmitry - most likely, the author subconsciously "kept in his head" Dmitry Kuleba - the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine ...
  6. +1
    7 August 2022 17: 00
    I'm not going to jump to conclusions. I believe that the published report is nothing more than a well-thought-out and well-thought-out move, among other moves, in the campaign to discredit the Russian armed forces, the Russian authorities and our state as a whole.


    Did anyone think it would be different? A short excerpt from today's Amnesty International publication;

    "We must be very clear: nothing we have documented in the actions of Ukrainian forces in any way justifies violations by Russia.".

    They will "pour water" on the mill they are pointed to, and if they make a mistake, they will be "corrected" very quickly, as happened with the report published by Amnesty International.
  7. +2
    7 August 2022 17: 15
    Great article. I agree with the conclusions of the author. There are two nuances in the article that seem controversial to me, namely: 1. The author writes "It is clear that such a campaign is against the Russians (on denigration of Russia, MK) will not work, but for citizens of Western countries it will do. In conditions of limited truthful information, people will perceive any information as reliable. It seems to me that such a campaign will have the same impact in our country and in the West, but only modulo. My experience of communicating with the inhabitants of Germany at the time when I lived there shows me that the overwhelming contingent there does not care deeply about our affairs. In a conversation, they will try to understand what position their interlocutor adheres to and politely assent. Another thing is "city madmen" - pique vests, which are approximately equal in our country and there (therefore, the reaction is "modulo the same"). But they are in the west and we will set the tone then, and only then, if really serious shocks happen in the west in winter, which I do not believe. Secondly. The phrase "those in power in Europe and the United States are catastrophically losing popularity and power, threatening the collapse of the entire political system of the West." the popularity of the authorities is one thing, but the "collas of the political system" is quite another. Johnson has lost popularity - a no less odious politician will take his place, but no collapse will occur, unless, of course, bread is delivered to the bakery, as we did in February 1917, but this is unlikely.
  8. +1
    7 August 2022 17: 55
    There is no great desire to discuss these two-faced anuses, they lie like they are strangling, and when they don’t lie, then they have planned another nasty thing.
    AI did not rejoice for long, they are already apologizing to the proto-humans...
    Amnesty International deeply regrets the suffering and anger caused by our document on combat tactics by the Ukrainian military....
    ....While we fully support our findings, we regret the pain caused

    Suffering at them, at Banderlog fool
    1. +2
      7 August 2022 19: 35
      The head of the Ukrainian bureau of Amnesty International, Oksana Pokalchuk, left her post after the publication of the report, because she “diverges in her views on values” with the leadership. He was also criticized by President Volodymyr Zelensky. Nevertheless, human rights activists did not back down.
      “Findings documenting violations of international humanitarian law by the Ukrainian military were based on evidence gathered during extensive field investigations,” the statement read.
      The head of the French bureau of Amnesty International, Jean-Claude Samuier, even demanded that Kyiv remove its military and weapons from the residential areas of cities.

      The military observer of the MIA "Russia Today", a war veteran Alexander Khrolenko believes that it is no coincidence that foreign human rights activists make such statements.

      "It's a sign. Either you do what you are instructed to do, or you become war criminals and you will be merged, ”he deciphered the message of the Western“ partners ”to the Kyiv regime.
      The interlocutor of PolitExpert believes that the aggravation in the area of ​​the Zaporozhye NPP is an attempt by the Ukrainian authorities to rehabilitate themselves in the eyes of sponsors who set certain conditions: either you advance, or you will be deprived of monetary allowance, weapons and everything else.
  9. 0
    7 August 2022 18: 30
    Any article in the Western media, comments. A couple of Ukrainian bots come in, make comments, warm up the crowd, always read the first comments and everything starts. they turn to personalities in the government. The methodology has not changed at all.
  10. 0
    7 August 2022 19: 32
    "Hurrah, the eyes of the West are opening!" (c) what Were they closed? Hardly. Two eyes are always open and most importantly, no conscience. These gentlemen do not hover in empyreans and see everything, and use everything for their own purposes without regard to humanity and moral principles.
  11. 0
    7 August 2022 19: 57
    In vain ours clung to this report so much. In my opinion, this is nothing more than a primitive trap, just in two moves: now Amnesty has thrown in a fly in the ointment, criticizing Ukraine, and our media immediately began to quote, refer to this organization, including the Russian reader, the viewer implicitly accustomed to the idea that this office in its reports is based on facts, objective and not biased. And tomorrow they will give birth to a new report, where the RF Armed Forces will be accused of genocide, rape of all Ukrainian women, Ukrainians, large and small livestock, cannibalism and other petty pranks. And after the previous report was quoted from every iron, it will be difficult to explain the falsity and bias of the next one.
  12. 0
    7 August 2022 20: 58
    Yes, the ukrosmi are now just bubbling, mixing with dirt and making fun of this Amnesty International. But the comments under these "revelations" in the media deserve special attention. For since the moderators do not delete them, it means that everything suits them. So it's part of the accepted policy...
  13. AI is a peculiar mechanism. That is, from financing to the criteria for expert assessments, it completely depends on the US ruling elite. This tail wags where the current owner says. Today, the shrewd experts of this sharashka have understood that it is necessary to speak "boldly". They performed, a sensation, again in the spotlight and money. But that's not the point. There is a creep to the "war crimes of Russia". Like - everyone is bad, but the Russians are even worse. You will see that this will be the next we will be. But much worse for us. There will be all the emotional horrors for readers. Ukraine will be forgotten, and we will be universal evil in AI estimates. Atrocious reprisals, unrighteous forms of warfare and other affairs of the RF Armed Forces - everything will be prescribed. Unless the AI ​​received a command from the Hosts to kill the Ze gang in order to dump him and write off the money. Maybe as a line of future claims against Russia. West: Russians, Putin - you are obliged to return all the money to us: lend-lease, donations, donations, loans, credits, etc., invaders, annexed are responsible for this! See, it will be. We will answer, as always, with the well-known finger figures: one up, or a large one in the middle. But it's ahead. In the meantime, the world is amazed at the courage of well-known "human rights activists". Oh, they will deal with us later, a hundred times harder!
  14. +1
    7 August 2022 23: 57
    The West does not see clearly.
    And, in general, Amnesty is a type of structure independent of the West. In fact, this is an organization dependent on American intelligence services (including the State Department). Used in the tail and mane.
    Zeli's transit to the toilet begins. Extraction.
  15. 0
    8 August 2022 00: 04
    I literally just read the news
    The human rights organization Amnesty International, which published on August 4 a report on violations of international law by the Ukrainian army, apologized for the fact that the publication of the document caused grief and anger among the Ukrainian authorities. It is reported by Reuters, citing a company statement.
    and more ...
    “Amnesty International deeply regrets the suffering and anger caused by our document on the tactics of warfare by the Ukrainian military. Amnesty International's priority in this and any conflict is to ensure the protection of civilians. Indeed, this was our sole purpose in publishing this latest study. While we fully support our findings, we regret the pain caused,” Reuters said in a statement. “This does not mean that Amnesty International holds Ukrainian forces responsible for violations committed by Russian troops, or that the Ukrainian military is not taking appropriate action. precautions in other parts of the country. We need to be crystal clear: nothing we have documented about the actions of Ukrainian forces in any way justifies violations by Russia.”...,
    Well, here's the result.
  16. 0
    8 August 2022 08: 01
    But in the West they don't know that. But Zelya will be merged, it is necessary to jump off.
  17. -1
    9 August 2022 20: 15
    Quote: Gennady Zavalov_2
    I think if the executions of their mercenaries were regularly shown, they would twitch there, but something with this in general, as I see it, everything came to naught, unfortunately.

    I agree!

    Why are their mercenaries being taken prisoner at all?
    Ukrovermacht does not take our musicians prisoner.