New escalation in Nagorno-Karabakh: sides accuse each other of shelling

_{Azerbaijani military at the exercises}

The Ministry of Defense of the unrecognized Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh (Republic of Artsakh) reports shelling from the territory under the control of the Azerbaijani armed forces. According to the military department, shelling began today at nine in the morning from grenade launchers, several attacks were also made using drones.

The second attack using UAVs on the positions of the Karabakh army in the northwestern section of the demarcation line took place around 15:00.

In turn, the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry accused the Armenian military of deliberately shelling the positions of the Azerbaijani army. The ministry's website reports that as a result of the deliberate actions of "illegal Armenian armed formations on the territory of Azerbaijan, where the Russian peacekeeping contingent is temporarily stationed," one conscript soldier died.

As a result, soldier Kazymov Anar Rustam became martyr from a bullet wound

- the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry said, adding that in response to the provocation, "the units of the Azerbaijani army took appropriate measures."

The Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry also stated that the entire responsibility for the incident on the territory of Azerbaijan lies with the political and military leadership of Armenia.

Currently, security on the line of contact in the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh is monitored by Russian peacekeepers, who have been there since the fall of 2020. The basis for the ceasefire was a trilateral agreement signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and Azerbaijani leader Ilham Aliyev. At the end of November last year, Pashinyan and Aliyev, with the assistance of Vladimir Putin, signed an additional agreement on the demarcation of the border between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

However, at the end of July, shelling on the demarcation line resumed. As a result of the aggravation of the situation, President of the Republic of Artsakh (NKR) Arayik Harutyunyan signed a decree according to which a partial mobilization was announced in the republic. In turn, the head of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry, Zakir Hasanov, ordered the army to "resolutely" suppress possible provocations by Armenia.

At present, Russian peacekeepers are taking measures to stabilize the situation, Stepanakert's Defense Ministry reported.

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[Kesha1980]

Add:

Partial mobilization announced in Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh) - decree of the head of the republic

Two servicemen of Nagorno-Karabakh were killed, 14 were injured as a result of strikes from Azerbaijan - Ministry of Defense of the Republic

[Shurik70]

Without a total genocide by one side, this internal conflict will now smolder for centuries.
And with the genocide, an external conflict will smolder. But here you can not predict how much it will smolder.
Perhaps the only way out is for one of the parties to arrange total control, harshly (and even cruelly) and quickly suppressing any interethnic hostility. Punishing the guilty, regardless of the side.
Fifty years will settle down.

[impostor]

Will settle down in fifty years

Unfortunately, it will not settle down until 3-14ndos have influence in the region ...

[Shurik70]

Where the Anglo-Saxons have influence, there can be no fair trial for inciting ethnic hatred in principle.
Divide and conquer is their principle.
So ethnic hatred will only be kindled, "helping" both sides in this

[impostor]

If there is a flock, there is a shepherd,
If there is a body, there must be a spirit,
If there is a step, there must be a trace,
If there is darkness, there must be light. (With)

[Civil]

Erdogan's mustache is visible in the Azerbaijani ultimatum.

[Flooding]

Random coincidence.
Kosovo - Serbia.
Azerbaijan - Armenia.
Not Turkish ears?

[Hypertension]

Azerbaijan is now always Turkish ears. And even more so in the confrontation with Armenia.
Azerbaijanis want to finish Karabakh under the guise of what is happening in the world.
And there are a lot of Russophobes in Azeri publics. Often politically incorrectly expressed about the peacekeepers of the Russian Federation.

[Hypertension]

The heat has gone... The Azerbaijani Armed Forces are striking at the NKR Armed Forces. Already dozens of dead Armenians.

[Ivan Ivanov]

I am sure that this is not the first time that Azerbaijan is fighting with our employment. The Armenians have no interest.

[Vugar Kuliev]

You yourself are obnoxious ... Ms rf must fulfill their mission. And throw out all the Armenian gangs of the formation

[Shurik70]

Turkey is unlikely. They do not want to have a war at their side.
It's not even the USA - all their attention is now on Ukraine, Taiwan, Kosovo. Not to Karabakh.
Here is Azerbaijan - maybe.
They sleep and see in order to completely throw the Armenians out of Karabakh. The moment, in their opinion, is convenient - Russia is now in Ukraine.
But they are in vain. Ours are there, and they will fulfill their duty.

[DeGreen]

Maimun, why are you here?

[Romario_Argo]

Armenians have nuclear warheads for Iskander OTRK 550 kt each
it's just that Azerbaijan has not yet crossed the red line
- at such a pace, there will soon be an exclusion zone in Baku
* infa from our SVR - the Armenians are just waiting

[Digital error]

Quote: Flood

Random match

there is also Kazakhstan.

[Romanovski]

Who else's ears can stick out behind Azerbaijan?

[g1v2]

Azerbaijan simply decided to take advantage of the fact that we are busy. He has three tasks. The first is to take the road that was promised to him. Armenia was supposed to build another road to connect with Karabakh, but did not have time to do this and is not in a hurry. Tch Azeri are urging them on. The second - they are trying to force Armenia to withdraw its armed forces from the territory of Karabakh, from where it was supposed to leave, but did not even withdraw the conscripts. The third is taking advantage of the moment to thin out the rest of the Artsakh army and deprive it of its equipment. Aliyev believes that while we are busy, he has a window of opportunity.

[man]

The first is to take the road that was promised to him. Armenia was supposed to build another road to connect with Karabakh, but did not have time to do this and is not in a hurry. Tch Azeri are urging them on. The second - they are trying to force Armenia to withdraw its armed forces from the territory of Karabakh, where did she have to go, but did not even take away the conscripts.
Well, then it turns out that they are trying to force the Armenians to fulfill the trilateral agreements that they themselves signed

[Aag]

Quote: Flood

Random coincidence.
Kosovo - Serbia.
Azerbaijan - Armenia.
Not Turkish ears?

Moldova, the Baltic states... And further along the perimeter...
So the ears are not only Turkish (((...

[41 REGION]

Quote: Flood

Kosovo - Serbia.
Azerbaijan - Armenia.

Rather, penguin ears stick out

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Shurik70

Fifty years will settle down.

Not half a century.
Neither we nor them...
I have a feeling that the crafty Rejep powerfully drove over Aliyev's ears...
Like: "Show Time", or now, or never ...
Quite in his style.
On the mustachioed kukan! ...

[mitroha]

As a result, soldier Kazymov Anar Rustam became martyr from a bullet wound

Again this fairy tale about martyrs.... He became a corpse. The result is "big uncle poker". I hope these big uncles who are inciting war will follow him, from both sides of the ocean .... And they will also become shekhs ... corpses ...

[Kesha1980]

This will never happen. This is against the rules of "poker". Surprise your hopes.

[mitroha]

Quote: Kesha1980

This will never happen. This is against the rules of "poker". Surprise your hopes.

And I insist ... As always, young fighters are pushed into battle by old politicians, so I am for them to push toasts at the wedding tables, and not boys into battle. In short, I am for the world

[Kesha1980]

Everyone insists on his own. I personally insist on lemon peels...

(c).
But the right to any opinion is not cancelled.

[mitroha]

Quote: Kesha1980

Everyone insists on his own. I personally insist on lemon peels...

(c).
But the right to any opinion is not cancelled.

Well then

[man]

i am for peace
holy words

[Romanovski]

In this context, it is very likely that one of the global players (the United States) has decided to start exerting systemic pressure on the sore points of its opponents (Russia and China) along the perimeter of their borders, or in areas of their potential interests, as well as in the so-called "gray zones." Other examples:

– the situation with the transit of Russian cargo through Lithuania to the Kaliningrad exclave,

- Norway's initial refusal to deliver goods to Russian miners in Svalbard,

- a sharp aggravation of the situation in Kosovo (we recall that the KFOR contingent also includes a company of Armenian peacekeepers, which, by the way, the Armenian press "forgot" about)

– aggravation of the situation between Beijing and Taipei as a result of the visit to Taiwan of the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the US Congress Nancy Pelosi

– increasing the likelihood of a “reopening” of the conflict in Transnistria,

- and, finally, Karabakh, where Russian peacekeepers are located. We assume that in order to divert the attention of Moscow and Beijing, the Anglo-Saxons will also take other steps to aggravate the situation in other areas where Russia and China have their own interests.

In this case, Baku, hiding behind statements about allegedly various kinds of violations on the Armenian side (the reliability of which should be confirmed by peacekeepers, not the parties to the conflict) and questioning the ability of the RCC to perform its functions, seeks the withdrawal of the RCC from Karabakh for the subsequent ethnic cleansing of the Armenian population of the region .

Thus, political scientist Stepan Danielyan believes that the Azerbaijanis are trying to do in Karabakh (Artsakh) the same thing that is being done in Kosovo.

“They are also trying to issue Kosovo passports to Kosovo Serbs and to police the movement of Serbs into Serbia. The goal is resettlement (essentially ethnic cleansing).

They are trying to do the same in Artsakh by taking control of the Lachin corridor.

The same handwriting, the same technology, and also under the calls of the “international community” for “peace”, with the same logic of geopolitical struggle.”

If this happens, then there is a high probability that a powerful anti-Russian wave will rise in Yerevan and forces that no longer want to be an ally of Moscow may come to power in Armenia. Russia will be forced out of the region, which, in fact, is what the United States and its NATO allies, primarily Great Britain and Turkey, are striving for.

As for Azerbaijan, in this case, it only performs the function of another regional "geopolitical infantryman" with all the ensuing consequences. A more active and large-scale Russian intervention in the situation, including in matters of restoring the violated status quo in the area of ​​responsibility of the RMK, will almost certainly lead to the diversion of a certain amount of forces and means, and also threatens with a potential conflict not only with Azerbaijan, but also with the allied him Turkey. Otherwise, all this cannot be called the next or potential “second front” for Russia.

At the same time, it seems to us that nothing unexpected is happening in Karabakh for Russia: almost certainly, in the high military and political offices of Moscow, such a scenario was initially calculated.

Reasons. A number of messages are used as reasons.

Firstly, Baku demands the withdrawal from Karabakh of the conscripts and contract servicemen called up from the Republic of Armenia who remained there after the 2020 war. This conclusion, according to official and our sources, has already been completed.
Secondly, there was a letter submitted by the RCC about the intention of the Azerbaijani side to change the route passing through the currently operating Lachin corridor. Meanwhile, according to the sixth paragraph of the tripartite statement of November 9, 2020, it is envisaged that in the next three years, i.e. until November 9, 2023, a plan for the construction of a new traffic route along the Lachin corridor will be determined, providing a connection between Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia. But there is no such plan approved in the trilateral format; Baku's demands are illegitimate and do not comply with tripartite agreements.

Thirdly, Ankara and Baku are seeking an extraterritorial “Zangezur corridor” from Armenia (through the Armenian marz of Syunik). But this is a kind of “red line” not only for Armenia, but also, by default, for Russia. Let us especially note the tough position of Iran on this issue, considering the demand for the implementation of the Zangezur Corridor project as a demand for changing the borders in the region, when Armenia de facto loses the border with Iran. Tehran, through the mouth of its spiritual leader Ali Khamenei (a native of the Turkic ethno-linguistic environment), stated that Iran would not allow any changes in the territory of Armenia and its integrity. Thus, from the point of view of Iran, there can be no question of any "Zangezur corridor". In addition, at the time of the aggravation of the situation in Karabakh, Iran strengthened its military grouping on its northern borders.

Yerevan is ready to unblock the railway communication between the Nakhichevan autonomy and the western regions of the Republic of Azerbaijan, but transit must be accompanied by border inspection and customs procedures in accordance with the regulatory documents of the CIS and the legislation of Armenia.

In general, Azerbaijan's actions boil down to torpedoing the implementation of the tripartite agreement of November 9, 2020, but this is being done in stages. At this stage, he needs to level the concept of Nagorno-Karabakh itself. Baku does not recognize that it exists at all, that people live there and even oppose the use of this term not only in any international documents, but even in the press, including the press of other countries.

Another element that they are trying to level is the concept of the line of contact, and more broadly, the area of ​​responsibility of Russian peacekeepers. If the concept of the line of contact, which can be violated under various pretexts, is leveled, then the status of the zone of responsibility of Russian peacekeepers is also called into question. The problem is that Azerbaijan refused to sign the mandate of the RMK (Armenia and Russia signed it in the fall of 2020), which details the powers of the peacekeepers. For this reason, the possibilities of the RCC to use weapons and special equipment on the line of contact are limited, so the peacekeepers are forced to engage in negotiations and persuasion.

All this creates one of the main political and legal difficulties of the peacekeeping operation, since due to the lack of a mandate, the RMK cannot prevent the violation of the line of contact between the parties with the help of weapons and does not shoot down attack and reconnaissance UAVs, which are actively used by the Azerbaijani side in the area of ​​​​responsibility of peacekeepers. In this regard, we also recall that Russian peacekeepers are armed only with small arms and armored personnel carriers, i.e. their fire capabilities to suppress violations of the line of contact are very limited.

Another important point is that the Azerbaijani side continues to make tireless attempts to tear out the words “the peacekeeping contingent of the Russian Federation is being deployed in parallel with the withdrawal of the Armenian armed forces” from the context of the Statement of November 9, 2020 and present this proposal as a demand for the withdrawal of the Armenian armed forces from all over Nagorno-Karabakh.

In fact, the 4th paragraph of the above Statement, as we believe the former Minister of Foreign Affairs of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (Republic of Artsakh) Masis Mailyan, is closely related to the previous 3rd paragraph of the document, which rejects the Baku interpretation of the document. This paragraph clearly defines the geography of the deployment of the RMK, and hence the withdrawal of Armenian troops. The line of contact and the Lachin corridor are indicated as deployment areas for the RMK.

Thus, the 4th point is an agreement on the withdrawal of the Armenian armed forces not from the whole of Nagorno-Karabakh, but from those places where the Russian peacekeeping contingent is deployed. Since the peacekeepers are not yet deployed along the entire line of contact, which is impossible due to the small number of contingents, the units of the Artsakh Defense Army have the right and must carry out combat duty in most sections of the Line of Contact. There is not a single word in the Statement about the demilitarization of the Republic of Artsakh and the withdrawal of armed forces from the unrecognized republic.

Accordingly, the whole above-mentioned picture leads to the fact that the leadership of the RCC has to listen to criticism, and quite harsh, from both sides. This, in particular, is evidenced not only by press publications and statements by politicians of various ranks, but also by the last meeting of the commander of the RCC, Lieutenant General Andrei Volkov, with representatives of the public and opposition of Nagorno-Karabakh. During the meeting, the general explained the position of the peacekeeping contingent regarding the ongoing events, informed about the work done.

The commander of the peacekeeping contingent assured that the Russian Federation would take all measures to prevent further aggravation of the situation.

In our opinion, in order to stabilize the situation in the conflict zone and the full-fledged work of the RMK, it is necessary:

- either get Baku to sign the relevant document on the mandate of the RCC, or start implementing the provisions of this document without the consent of Azerbaijan. Otherwise, armed provocations and clashes on the line of contact and in the zone of responsibility of the RMK will continue. Moreover, the risks to the life and safety of the peacekeepers themselves will increase. Attempts to obtain a mandate for the RMK within the framework of international organizations (UN, OSCE and CIS), given the current global confrontation, in our opinion, are doomed to failure,

- it is necessary to strengthen the RMK numerically and with weapons (including air defense systems).

[Kesha1980]

A lot of information, and someone else's. As soon as we learn that Armenians died on the territory of Karabakh, then some "reasons" are automatically reset. As I understand it, a blow / blows were struck where these citizens should not have been. Here, the choice is an illegal armed formation, or the "Invasion" of the Armed Forces of Armenia. As for air defense supplies, it’s ridiculous, because we ourselves need them, plus they supplied them, they don’t know how to use them. And yes, I categorically dislike Armenia's policy of cooperation with the United States. So, kind of on your own. It is quite enough that our peacekeepers covered the valiant Armenians with their presence (then the arrivals ceased to take place).
I recommend the diaspora to chip in for air defense and return to defend their homeland. I have an Armenian friend who is a former wrestler. Healthy, strong. But - "my father forbade me to go to Karabakh" (about the previous aggravation). So do it yourself. I do not want to support any side in this conflict.

[Romanovski]

You are cunning about "yourself" ... There is a CSTO and you should not "forget" about it ... Moreover, Russia and Belarus (by the way, members of the CSTO, like Armenia ... by the way ...) - sold up to 2020 (and after) to Azerbaijan a large number of OFFENSIVE WEAPONS, which KILLED (!) Armenian military and civilians in 2020 ... Is this fair to an ally in the CSTO? Making money selling weapons to Azerbaijan and AGAINST Armenia is welcome, but when Armenia decided to recall the obligations of the CSTO members, the Armenians were hinted that somehow get out yourself ??? How shoud I understand this? It is not the first time for Armenians to fight against Turkey and Azerbaijan ... The regular Turkish army, which INVADED Armenia in 1918, was defeated by the Armenian army near Sardarapat (a victorious and decisive battle), Bash-Aparan and Karakilisa ... And in 1994 (4 years of bloody and the UNEQUAL war against the aggression of Azerbaijan ...) in Karabakh, the Azerbaijani army was defeated, whose losses exceeded 30.000 killed ...

[Kesha1980]

What does Karabakh (Artsakh) have to do with the CSTO?
If you remembered the "sold weapons", then remember the weapons sold to Armenia on credit - for the sake of objectivity.
I confess that I know about the unofficial deliveries of mortars by Azerbaijan to Ukraine after the start of the NMD (therefore, I can’t be attributed to Azerbaijan’s “well-wishers”).
But (purely theoretically), if the CSTO was remembered, then kindly show a request from Pashinyan for allied assistance in accordance with the obligations of the CSTO.
Separately, I want to say that Pashinyan will not initially go to war - he does not like Karabakh and people from this sector (the Karabakh clan).

[gansales]

Armenians won’t calm down .. Or do they want to organize anti-Russian rallies again?
A team from the State Department came to see.

[Egoza]

Quote from gansales

Armenians won’t calm down .. Or do they want to organize anti-Russian rallies again?
A team from the State Department came to see.

Azerbaijan is also "good". What are they transmitting to the Ukrainian army? In general, the Karabakh problem cannot be solved. Make it an autonomous republic within Russia? Will there be silence then?

[gansales]

Quote: Egoza

Azerbaijan is also "good".

Those Turkish pawns..

Quote: Egoza

In general, the problem of Karabakh cannot be solved. Make it an autonomous republic within Russia? Will there be silence then?

It would not be bad, but now Russia is not up to them .. It’s impossible to spray forces now .. You need to decide with Ukraine urgently, and then deal with the rest ... It will already be easier!

[stelltok]

It would not be bad, but now Russia is not up to them .. It is impossible to spray forces now.

Iran said that if Karabakh breaks out, then Iran will help the Armenians. I wonder what Iran will do now?
By the way, there are a lot of videos from Azerbaijan, but there are no videos from the Armenians, so the Armenians are not to blame here.
https://t.me/s/anna_news

[gsev]

Quote from stelltok

By the way, there are a lot of videos from Azerbaijan, but there are no videos from Armenians,

Azerbaijan, unlike Armenia, actively buys Russian media, which earn on advertising. The relevant information will be paid at a price that will beat the Azerbaijani one, it will appear in the relevant publications.

[man]

Azerbaijan, unlike Armenia, actively buys Russian media
can you name one? Just for information, so that everyone knows. Otherwise, I only see Armenian

[gsev]

Quote: mann

Just for information, so that everyone knows. Otherwise, I only see Armenian

For the first reports with some sympathy towards Azerbaijan on the Central Television of Russia, back under Yeltsin, approximately in 1993-1995, Azerbaijan laid out about 1 million rubles. In those glorious or vile times, girls roamed around foreign embassies and offered themselves as agents of influence on Russian television. Those who had more power and high position in European. Those who had no practical influence were in the Arab embassies. One frivolous person had a bummer when concluding a contract with a representative of Kuwait. Seeing in the contract a clause on loyalty to Kuwait and refusal to cooperate with other states without the permission of the representative of Kuwait, she brazenly declared that she intended to sell herself to all Arab countries as a free citizen of a free post-communist Russia. She was not offered contracts anywhere else, and they were not even allowed to enter the door of the Kuwait embassy. For example, Serbian intelligence (Yugoslavian?) invested about 40 rubles in the film "Island of Serbia" about a year earlier. As far as I know now, Azerbaijan finances most boldly and openly: News.ru. Contracts have already been signed with Novaya Gazeta and Daily Storm. Although it is often possible simply to help the British finance their agents of influence.

[man]

For the first reports with some sympathy towards Azerbaijan on the Central Television of Russia, back under Yeltsin, approximately in 1993-1995, Azerbaijan laid out about 1 million rubles. In those glorious or vile times, girls roamed around foreign embassies and offered themselves as agents of influence on Russian television. Those who had more power and a high position in European. Those who had no practical influence were in the Arab embassies. One frivolous person had a bummer when concluding a contract with a representative of Kuwait. Seeing in the contract a clause on loyalty to Kuwait and refusal to cooperate with other states without the permission of the representative of Kuwait, she brazenly declared that she intended to sell herself to all Arab countries as a free citizen of a free post-communist Russia. She was not offered contracts anywhere else, and they were not even allowed to enter the door of the Kuwait embassy. For example, Serbian intelligence (Yugoslavian?) invested about 40 rubles in the film "Island of Serbia" about a year earlier.
Judging by your knowledge, in the 90s you worked as the general director of Russian television channels, and all at the same time
I don’t know how much Azerbaijan posted then, but it seems that the Armenians posted more, since under Yeltsin the information from all channels was almost completely pro-Armenian, I remember .Then Putin leveled the situation on the Central Channels, except for the Solovyov programs. There was generally a wonderful Armenian-Jewish cabal, which in its entirety did a lot to quarrel us with Ukraine. I then looked at these programs, if I noticed Karen Shakhnazarov there, I was his opinion is interesting. A talented director and a worthy person, I really love his films, I don’t understand why he got into this viper. flowers didn't work

[Romanovski]

Seriously??? Do not pretend to be naive, who does not know about the term "caviar diplomacy of Baku" that has set the teeth on edge ... In Baku, academics and masters of corruption and bribery ... Do you want an example? The cutthroat Ramil Safarov spent only a year and a half in a Hungarian prison for the BRUTAL MURDER of an Armenian officer, and then suddenly (!?) was extradited to Baku where he was greeted as a national hero .... Did the Hungarians return the bastard to Baku for his beautiful eyes?

[man]

Not what you think. You demonize each other instead of
look for compromises. You simply have no other choice, you can’t get away from each other. And your mutual accusations have long been tired of everyone, except for those that feed from your hands and the hands of your opponents.

[Romanovski]

""... You demonize each other, instead of
look for compromises. You simply have no other choice, you can’t get away from each other. And your mutual accusations have long been tired of everyone, except for those who feed from your hands and the hands of your opponents .... """.
------ Golden words... Just VERY RELEVANT for Russia and Ukraine...

[man]

Golden words ... Just VERY RELEVANT for Russia and Ukraine ...
You can not be ironic, I agree with you

[Romanovski]

Oh thank you...

[Vlad Baryatinsky]

Quote from stelltok

Iran said that if Karabakh breaks out, then Iran will help the Armenians

The Persians will not even dare to blather in the direction of Azerbaijan.
Azerbaijanis have mutual assistance agreements with fez and packs.
Don't forget about Israel. Azerbaijan, a geopolitical ally of Israel in the post-Soviet space.

[man]

Don't forget about Israel. Azerbaijan, a geopolitical ally of Israel in the post-Soviet space.
What causes particular rage in Iran

[Romanovski]

You are deeply mistaken and underestimate the Persians ...

[Romanovski]

You are right .... But, they received a suspiciously many minuses ....

[ivanec]

But what about the CSTO?

[Digital error]

Pashinyan sent the former head of the CSTO to prison, didn’t he?

[Vlad Baryatinsky]

Quote: ivanec

But what about the CSTO?

... rested in Bose!

[Romanovski]

Don't rush...don't wait...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

But what about the CSTO?

The CSTO is about protecting the territorial integrity of Armenia, and Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh) is now the territory of Azerbaijan, both legal and in fact !!!

And before the war, Nagorno-Karabakh was legally the territory of Azerbaijan, and Russia officially recognized this.

So, there were no grounds for Russia's participation in the defense of Nagorno-Karabakh and there is none.

The Armenians lost the war and therefore must withdraw all military units from the territory of Artsakh.

It is time for the Armenians to understand and accept this, and not try to bargain after the war, and even more so to blackmail Russia with membership in the CSTO, otherwise nothing will be left of Armenia soon.

Armenian nationalism played a minus for the Armenians, in a permanent alliance with Russia, Armenia would develop and grow with its historical lands, return the entire territory of Greater Armenia and get access to the sea, and in the event of a political crisis within the country, you immediately betray Russia, and then rake from your neighbors losing territory and people.

[solar]

Is it written in the armistice agreement?

recorded

borders in the USSR were, in many respects, administrative and economic in nature

but not much?
According to the Constitution of the USSR - a union of republics, not economic territories.

[Romanovski]

It’s better to first think about Azerbaijani nationalism and what Putin said about the causes of the conflict in Karabakh ... And he said DIRECTLY that it was the Azerbaijanis who FIRST started the Armenian pogroms in 1988 and 1990 in Sumgayit and Baku, respectively ...

[Vugar Kuliev]

Full disinformation. The first pogroms and the first refugees came from Kapan. The Armenians expelled the local Azerbaijanis from Armenia. The first shelter was shed in the Askeran market, where two Azerbaijanis from Aghdam were killed.

[Romanovski]

Disinformation from V.V. PUTIN? Did you think well?

[Romanovski]

First, learn to write CORRECTLY in Russian so that your lie at least looks believable ...

[man]

about what Putin said about the causes of the conflict in Karabakh ... And he said IN DIRECT TEXT that it was the Azerbaijanis who started the Armenian pogroms FIRST in 1988 and 1990 in Sumgayit and Baku, respectively ...
Provide a link to the quote, please. Did Putin write a doctoral dissertation on this conflict?

[Romanovski]

Do you want to watch a video from YouTube with Putin's interview???
-------------
""" ..... But in order to understand what is happening, we still have to go back to history, literally in a nutshell. I have to remind you that all this began back in 1988, when there were ethnic clashes in the Azerbaijani city of Sumgayit, where the civilian population, the Armenians, suffered, then these events spread to Nagorno-Karabakh.

And since the then leadership of the Soviet Union did not properly respond to the events taking place ... I repeat once again: these are subtle things, here I don’t want to take sides, who is right and who is wrong, now it’s impossible to say at all, but it was necessary to put things in order, It was necessary to protect the people, the civilian population. This was not done. And then the Armenians themselves took up arms, and this protracted, in fact, long-term conflict began, which led to the fact that in 1991 Karabakh declared its independence, sovereignty, independence, and in 1994 the Bishkek agreements were signed, the Bishkek memorandum , which ceased hostilities at that point in time. And what was the result? As a result, Karabakh declared its independence, as I have already said, and seven more regions adjacent to it came under the control of Armenians, in fact, under the control of Armenia...."".
https://sarinfo.org/news/novosti-sar/intervyu-vputina-po-situatsii-v-nagornom-karabahe.html

[man]

But what about the CSTO?
officially, this is an internal conflict, not an interstate one. Although the language does not turn around to call these misunderstandings states

[Vugar Kuliev]

That is, aggressive rhetoric will not stop with you?

[Vlad Baryatinsky]

Quote: Egoza

What are they transmitting to the Ukrainian army?

The same thing that we handed over to the Armenians during the 2nd Karabakh conflict.

Quote: Egoza

. Make it an autonomous republic within Russia?

Is Ukrainian “theme” not enough for us?
Do you want more Turkic “themes”?!

[Luminman]

Karabakh will be part of Russia

He is not needed in Russia. Like the two million Armenians living here...

[Vugar Kuliev]

As part of Russia? What is not enough for you more than 40 thousand two hundred in Ukraine? Do you want more blood?

[Romanovski]

This means bloodthirsty Armenians, and Azerb. = Turkey (= NATO) - saints, white and fluffy ?? Read again the summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, where it is written in black and white that AZERBAIJAN STARTED EXACTLY ....

[man]

As part of Russia? What is not enough for you more than 40 thousand two hundred in Ukraine? Do you want more blood?
shove your threats you know where! donut hole

[saigon]

That's just not enough, honestly.
There is enmity for many years and the Turks are not needed.
There, Iran is side by side, and oh, how he loves the Turks and the strengthening of both Turkey and Azerbaijan, he does not need.

[man]

What are they transmitting to the Ukrainian army?
Apparently, Sarmatians purchased from Russia. Here are the scoundrels!

[tihonmarine]

Quote from gansales

A team from the State Department came to see.

Why, I immediately thought so, "the hand of the State Department." Ukraine, Taiwan, Karabakh - again the "pale-striped" ones stuck their noses in.

[gansales]

Quote: tihonmarine

Why, I immediately thought so, "the hand of the State Department." Ukraine, Taiwan, Karabakh - again the "pale-striped" ones stuck their noses in.

Everywhere they pop and cunningly, over in Taiwan, they almost provoked the third world war .. They need military conflicts, due to this they live on blood, creating their own well-being ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote from gansales

Everywhere they pop and cunningly, out in Taiwan, they almost provoked the third world war ..

I come to the conclusion that Enrico Fermi was right in his conclusions.

[gsev]

Quote: tihonmarine

again the "pale-striped" ones stuck their nose in.

As L.N. Tolstoy, a smart leader simply does not interfere with doing good things and interferes with bad ones. At one time, Brezhnev prevented India from destroying West Pakistan and breaking through a corridor to Afghanistan. Khrushchev prevented China from supplying grain to the USSR in lean years, but out of arrogance before Mao bought it in the USA.

[man]

Why, I immediately thought so, "the hand of the State Department." Ukraine, Taiwan, Karabakh - again the "pale-striped" ones stuck their noses in.
you would also add a drunken fight here in the village of Malye Eldaki

[stelltok]

Armenians will not calm down ..

And why should they? Well, they just don't need it. Someone else is involved here.

[gansales]

Quote from stelltok

Armenians will not calm down ..

And why should they? Well, they just don't need it. Someone else is involved here.

Yes, you know, but this Pashinyan is also being carried out, he is still a Russophobe Amer’s henchman .. So you need to be on the alert.

[stelltok]

Yes, you know, but...

Armenia is hardly to blame.
Here I read
https://t.me/s/voenkorKotenok/

Artsakh, situation as of 18.50:

- Azerbaijan recognized the fact of aggression;
- Declared to take a number of heights, incl. the Kyrkhgyz upland;
- They confirm the strike on the Armenian military parts, as well as the defeat of military equipment, incl. several D-30 howitzers;
- Baku demands complete disarmament of the Artsakh Defense Army and the withdrawal of Armenian forces.

[Vugar Kuliev]

Firstly, Karabakh is an integral part of Azerbaijan and the Azerbaijani Armed Forces can be located anywhere they want. But the Armenian gangs of the formation were supposed to leave the region when entering the ms rf.

[Romanovski]

Who told you such fairy tales that supposedly Karabakh is part of Azerbaijan ??? In 1921, Stalin, from the lordly Bolshevik shoulder, presented the completely Armenian Karabakh to the Azerbaijan SSR and EVEN ROUGHLY IGNORED the fact that before that, the communists of Azerbaijan were for Karabakh to be part of the Armenian SSR ... The same story as when Khrushchev in 1954 gave the Russian Crimea to Ukraine, and long before that, Lenin gave the Donbass to Ukraine ...

[Boxer]

Karabakh (NKAO in Soviet times) is located inside Azerbaijan and is surrounded on all sides by purely Azerbaijani-populated regions (not part of the NKAO) and has no land connection with Armenia and with anyone else, how can you give something that is inside some country?) ) And where does I.V. Stalin in general? Yes, and the decision of the Cavalry Bureau of the RCP (b) reads: LEAVE Nagorno-Karabakh within Azerbaijan. You are funny with your lies, by God)

[Romanovski]

How "what does Stalin have to do with it" ??? What is not profitable for you - we will not remember ??? So what??? I repeat: the whole world has ALWAYS known for a long time that it was Stalin who gave Karabakh to Azerbaijan in 1921 according to the principle of Machiavelli, i.e. - DIVIDE AND CONQUER ... Exactly THE SAME - LENIN GOT THE RUSSIAN LANDS OF LITTLE RUSSIA to the Ukrainian SSR, and Khrushchev "added" Russia when he GOT Crimea to Ukraine in 1954 .... Look again at the speech of V, V. Putin right BEFORE the start of the NWO in Donbass..

[Vugar Kuliev]

When the Bolsheviks occupied Azerbaijan in 1920, Karabakh, Zangezur and Goyche were part of Azerbaijan. And what was during Stalin's time. It was said there that it would be left as part of Azerbaijan, and not transferred from someone to someone

[sat2004]

Az was. republic, but Karabakh and Nakhichevan were not part of this republic. Read history, not Aliyev's propaganda. Look at the boundaries of the address. The desire to seize these territories led to the refusal to accept the adrs into the league of nations.

[sat2004]

In 1905, Stalin was the organizer of the 2nd party congress, then it was called the CPSU.

[Romanovski]

No need to lie ... Even the name ZANGEZUR - is translated into Armenian as "unheard ringing of bells", since an Armenian traitor during the invasion of the Mongols lit a fire under the bell of the Tatev monastery so that the bells would not ring at full strength ....

[sat2004]

Here is a mistake, point 1 - the troops remain in place. There is no concept of advancing az. armies in the ceded territories.

[Vugar Kuliev]

There is a puntir the withdrawal of Armenian troops, the entry of MS Russia. Is this dotted line done?

[sat2004]

Yes done. There are no Armenian troops in the transferred territories, or I have old data.

[man]

- Baku demands the complete disarmament of the Artsakh Defense Army and the withdrawal of Armenian forces.
It's part of the tripartite agreement, isn't it?

[Vlad Baryatinsky]

Quote from stelltok

Armenians will not calm down ..

And why should they? Well, they just don't need it. Someone else is involved here.

Just as necessary.
To drag chestnuts out of the fire, with the wrong hands.

[Romanovski]

take care of your hands...

[Romanovski]

Or maybe the Azerbaijanis still can’t calm down ???

[Romanovski]

And it would be better for you to appease Azerbaijan first ... Moreover, the RF Ministry of Defense confirmed that the Azerbaijani Armed Forces were the FIRST to violate the truce ... Or is it beneficial for you not to notice this moment?

[parusnik]

It seems that the leadership of Armenia is doing everything to return Artsakh to Azerbaijan, but by military means. Like, the unfit Azerbaijanis took Artsakh away, and Russia did not help. A very convenient position by the way. Everyone is to blame, but they are white and "puffy". Well, I couldn’t, I couldn’t .. And further, forward, to the West! Farewell, not washed Russia! If they couldn’t help us keep Artsakh. By the way, they already have their own Bandera there, Garegin Nzhdeh erects monuments to him. During the Great Patriotic War, he collaborated with Nazi Germany. And very actively.

[Boxer]

Again, a look at things through the Armenian prism (of course, under the Russian surname))?
Did Zatulin (who lives on generous "donations" from Russian oligarchs of Armenian origin) read the Armenian researcher Ashot Abgaryan who wrote about Nzhdeh's "acts"?
1. "Investigator:
- "What do you understand when you say Tsegakron?"
Devedjyan:
- This should be understood as worship of the race and the preservation of its purity, which is tantamount to Nazism-Hitlerism. Thus, Nzhdeh, with his "Tsegakron", propagated fascism in Armenian reality. In 1936 or 1937. Nzhdeh was expelled from the Dashnak Party for the second time for his splitting work. During the Second World War, Nzhdeh began to actively cooperate with the Germans. Nzhdeh repeatedly made propaganda speeches to Armenian prisoners of war, urging them to armed struggle against the USSR, stating: "WHO DIES FOR GERMANY DIES FOR ARMENIA"
Source: Ashot Abgaryan. Garegin Nzhdeh: myth and reality. Part 2

2. "Protocol of interrogation of Nzhdeh (extract) September 2, 1947, number 7
Investigator:
- In your ultimatum of September 27, you wrote: "I DESTROY Turks AND RUSSIANS WITH SUCH PLEASURE, WITH WHAT I DESTROY IN AND OUT OF FIGHT."
Source: Ashot Abgaryan. Garegin Nzhdeh: myth and reality. Part 2.
https://politsturm.com/garegin-nzhde-mif-i-realnost-chast-2/

[Romanovski]

""".... Turks AND RUSSIAN I DESTROY WITH SUCH PLEASURE,..."".
But there is no need to lie here according to the Goebbels method ... Nzhdeh did not utter the words "RUSSIAN" during interrogation, but said - BOLSHEVIK ... Your cheap tricks with supposedly "mechanical errors" of quoting will be used in Baku ...

[Boxer]

Do you like to slander Armenian comrades. About M.E. Rasulzade does not need to lie, Rasulzade never fought against anyone. There is not a single accusation of the Soviet judicial authorities against M.E. Rasulzade on this occasion, just as there is not a single fact about his participation in any armed actions in general in his entire life.
By the way, in today's Armenia there are also people who soberly assess (unlike you) the activities of Nzhdeh:
Deputy Minister of Culture of Armenia Zhanna Andreasyan made an important statement on Armenian television about the danger of the ultra-nationalist ideology of "tseghakronism" of Nazi accomplice Garegin Nzhdeh. Her words became the first open speech of a high-ranking official of the Republic of Armenia against Nzhdeh's fascist doctrine of the superiority of the Armenian nation, Vestnik Kavkaza writes.
“The ideology of Nzhdeh is, in fact, a fascist ideology. In itself, it is very dangerous for us as a society of the XNUMXst century, since this ideology is built on the basis of aggression against the world, delimiting oneself from the whole world and demonstrating one's advantage over all societies. If all beautiful words are excluded from his teaching, then only this very dangerous foundation will remain, ”she emphasized.
Source: https://yerkramas.org/article/179693/ot-vlastej-armenii-mozhno-ozhidat-i-bolee-opasnyx-slov--chem-zayavlenie-o-nzhde

[man]

With all due respect to Zatulin, he has been elected from Sochi as a deputy since the age of 16. He must take into account the opinion of voters

[sat2004]

The regular Armenian army did not participate in the war of 20 years, it sat in "apartments". Fought in the Artsakh Autonomous Region. Yes, the Armenians of Armenia served in the Artsakh Autonomous Region, there were volunteers. For 44 days, the Artsakh Defense Army resisted Az. an army reinforced with weapons and NATO soldiers, mercenaries who received $ 100 for an Armenian head. The result is the remains of az. armies came under the control of the Turkish and are controlled by the Turkish generals, Russian peacekeepers and the Artsakh Defense Army protect the civilians of Artsakh.

[Asad]

I'm too lazy to even comment on all your nonsense.

[Leshak]

Until one of the parties wins, no one will calm down. I was "lucky" as a conscript in the 90s to calm them down. There is no single person to blame.

[man]

Until one of the parties wins, no one will calm down.
None of them will be allowed to win a complete victory. And local victories will be won by one side or the other,depending on the political situation.So there will be a permanent 100-year war. And they could be friends, develop and live normally. Idiots ... both of them ...

[Romanovski]

And the Russian-Ukrainian war, how many years will it continue??

[man]

And the Russian-Ukrainian war, how many years will it continue??
They were sure that the Ukrainians would be greeted with flowers as liberators. Intelligence was mistaken. But I didn’t say that this war was from a great mind ...

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Nonsense, shoot a little and calm down quickly. Still, the fraternal Caucasian peoples.

[Aviator_]

Yet the fraternal Caucasian peoples

Just as fraternal as the Jews and the Palestinians are both Semitic peoples.

[gansales]

Quote: Aviator_

Yet the fraternal Caucasian peoples

Just as fraternal as the Jews and the Palestinians are both Semitic peoples.

Taki yes .. Give them the freedom to grab each other's throats .. Just pull them apart by the scruffs in different directions .. Which is what Russia does all the time. And so it's all tired already!

[man]

Just as fraternal as the Jews and the Palestinians are both Semitic peoples.
Such a rotten time ... fraternal wars

[impostor]

Mattresses pour napalm all over the world ... they break the clock to extend their lives ... wherever there is a conflict, star-striped ears stick out ... someday this will become obvious to all the peoples of the planet and North America will be returned by force to those remnants who sit on reservations...

[Pulkovo1942]

There are already a lot of videos in the cart: Azerbaijanis are hard on them from drones.

[Romanovski]

and they get hard in the teeth too ....

[Gepard]

So strong that only peacekeepers saved you

[Romanovski]

When the Armenian army in 1918 defeated the Turkish REGULAR army INVADING ARMENIA near Sardarapat and when the Armenians of Artsakh defeated the INVADING Azerbaijanis in 1994, you should not forget this ... Armenians know how to fight, but sometimes Armenian traitors open the doors of the Armenia fortress for 30 pieces of silver ....

[Prisoner]

?! Don't you have an Armenian globe?

[DeGreen]

Well, let them fight each other. What are we doing here? Or let the Armenians recognize their Artsakh. By the way, you know that there are practically no anti-Russian speeches in Azerbaijan. But in Armenia, thousands of rallies gather against Russia

[bobba94]

Before the collapse of the USSR, it was the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region as part of the AzSSR ...... Just an autonomous region. To return Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan, and then everything will fit both factually and legally.

[Romanovski]

You are mistaken.... And deeply... And how do you look at such a seditious thought to leave the Donbass as part of Ukraine??? Looks bad, right? And it is done correctly that it looks bad ... And in this case, why are you operating with DOUBLE STANDARDS in the case of Karabakh ??? Or do you not care that the Armenians of Karabakh have been PROTECTING from the Azerbaijanis there for decades. aggressors???

[Gepard]

Rather the opposite. The Armenian aggressors were finally trampled. It's time to accept this fact. And don't whine

[Romanovski]

You will be drinking in front of your well ..... Well, you understand ...

[sat2004]

Before the collapse, there was also a referendum on the independence of Artsakh (NKAO and Shahumyan region). Read history. Same story as in England.

[Romanenko]

In the event of an aggravation in Karabakh, it is necessary to quickly check the currency accounts of individual leaders of neighboring states, from where they send it and it’s clear to the hedgehog, and it will immediately become clear who needs to be neutralized.
There are no secrets here, the more successful the SVO is, the more often the "partners" will check our borders for lice.

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Shurik70

Fifty years will settle down.

You can speed up!
For starters, clear Moscow and the region of illegal immigrants from both "proud" ex-USSR republics. Let them raise their economies from their knees and pull their Azerbaijan and Armenia out of the economic gluteus. And that they began to live so "well" after the collapse of the USSR that 80% of Armenians and 75% of Azerbaijanis were sent to Russia.

[DeGreen]

Yeah, both of them only know how to trade in the market

[Romanovski]

Not only ... Armenians and Azerbaijanis can do a lot of other things .... There is no need to switch to nations and insult ... There are no bad nations, but there are bad people ....

[Romanovski]

""... that 80% of Armenians and 75% of Azerbaijanis were sent to Russia ...."""
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Don't tell stories...

[man]

And that they began to live so "well" after the collapse of the USSR that 80% of Armenians and 75% of Azerbaijanis were sent to Russia.
You are mistaken, 250% of Armenians and only 245% of Azerbaijanis

[tihonmarine]

The plane of the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the US Congress Nancy Pelosi landed in South Korea, at the American military base Osan.
Pelosi has come to sow discord in South Korea.

[man]

The plane of the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the US Congress Nancy Pelosi landed in South Korea, at the American military base Osan.
Pelosi has come to sow discord in South Korea.
Are you hinting that Pelosi will fly from Korea to Karabakh-Artsakh?

[Vugar Kuliev]

Let's be honest, the MS RF is to blame for what happened. Because they are not fulfilling their responsibilities. Why hasn't the Armenian contingent of gang formations been withdrawn yet? Who are waiting for two years. And the Armenians must understand in three years from the RF to leave the region, if they do not come to their senses, then everything will be deplorable for them.

[Sergei Klimov]

Or maybe the Azerbaijanis don’t need to suck into the gums with the Turks and sing to their tune.

[sat2004]

In fact, there is no Azerbaijan, there is a zone controlled by Russian peacekeepers, territories unsuitable for life, and the rest of the territory is under the control of the Turkish generals. Three habitats.

[Gepard]

Well . Look at least on the Internet. You will immediately see the difference

[Vugar Kuliev]

Do you know how in the summer of 2020 Russia supplied construction materials by plane? So he called Shoigu. We remember this too. By the way, after 2016, Iskanders were presented to the Armenians, and they were fired at Baku. True air defense shot down. We also do not forget and remember your bearish services

[Sergei Klimov]

And when Russia took northern Azerbaijan from the Persians, you probably don’t know either.

[sat2004]

Griboedov A.S.

[Romanovski]

If the armed forces, then these are Azerbaijanis, and if "gang formations", then these are Armenians ???? You don’t have a head, but directly the HOUSE OF SOVIETS .... For your personal information, not Armenians, but ARMENIANS ...

[Vugar Kuliev]

The world recognizes Karabakh as a part of Azerbaijan. Even Armenia itself. This means that all illegal people who are on the territory of Karabakh (Azerbaijan) are considered illegal and sooner or later they must lay down their arms. Otherwise they will be destroyed

[Clear]

Russian peacekeepers are currently taking measures to stabilize the situation,

Gorbachev, are you sleeping peacefully? And, after all, this is all the results of your betrayal.

[novel66]

Oh Lady... I think he is happy with himself

[Clear]

Quote: novel xnumx

Oh Lady... I think he is happy with himself

As they said in Soviet times about him “God marks the rogue” and “He will fix the humpbacked grave”!

[sat2004]

There is no his wife, I don’t remember, it seems raisa, I don’t remember exactly.

[sat2004]

The country of Azerbaijan artificially created by Lenin with the help of Turkey, on the gold reserves of Russia transferred to Turkey by Lenin. Defeated in 44 days, the Azerbaijani army of the Artsakh Autonomous Okrug, with the inactivity of the Armenian army, the remnants of which had to be united with the Turkish one, is now trying to play along with the Ukrofascists. The Azerbaijani army led by Turkey will spoil the peacekeepers of Russia. The complete failure in the creation of the Zangyazur corridor, which Nzhdeh defended at the beginning of the last century, the lost billions of dollars in Ukraine, the subordination of the army to NATO command, all this led to an aggravation of the confrontation between the Artsakh Autonomous Okrug and the Azerbaijani army in order to spoil Russia.

[Sergeant]

Why don't you go to the front? Try. We are waiting for you too. It's so easy to sit safe and talk your tongue.

[Vlad Baryatinsky]

Quote: sat2004

The country of Azerbaijan artificially created by Lenin with the help of Turkey, on the gold reserves of Russia transferred to Turkey by Lenin.

And Armenia, who created it and when?
Rather than carry a "blizzard", it's better to go protect "your" land.
Otherwise, according to you, the whole world is obliged to protect the stub of the crop of you yourself.
Azerbaijanis on the battlefield proved to you how to love the Motherland !!!

[sat2004]

Read the story, everything is written there.

[VyacheSeymour]

Quote: sat2004

Read the story, everything is written there.

History is always written for themselves, but they make history today ...

[Sergei Klimov]

Read the story. When Armenia was created and when Azerbaijan

[Romanovski]

""... Azerbaijanis on the battlefield, proved to you how to love the Motherland !!!...."".
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Don’t tell fairy tales here ... IF NOT FOR HELP TO Nine-million AZERBAIJAN from TURKEY (80.000.000 inhabitants ...) - drones, instructors, special forces, aviation and artillery, as well as more than 3000 terrorists to help Azerbaijan from the Middle East, and also modern weapons from Israel, Belarus and the Russian Federation - then Azerbaijan did not come close ("victory" over the Armenians of Karabakh would be too bold for Azerbaijanis ...) so close to the borders of Karabakh, in which TOTAL 130.000 (!!!) inhabitants .. .. And one more thing: Azerbaijan SHOULD NOT FORGET ITS ATTACK (FIRST ...) on Karabakh and its subsequent SHAMEFUL DEFEAT FROM THE ARMENIANS OF KARABAKH in 1994 ... They may repeat ....

[Vugar Kuliev]

Or maybe the Turks fought. Yes, on behalf of Jasper and the mountain special forces, you have fear and trembling in the knees. Do not star at the expense of 130 thousand Armenians of Karabakh either. Then Asala fought for Armenia, Armenia and the Russians were for you. Romanyan don't pretend to be Russian.

[Romanovski]

https://realtribune.ru/agressiya-alieva-v-arcahe-diskreditiruet-mirotvorcheskie-usiliya-rossii?utm_source=politobzor.net
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Aliyev's aggression in Artsakh discredits Russia's peacekeeping efforts

[Gepard]

Wow. Nzhdeh? Propaganda of fascist henchmen? Or is he a hero to you?

[Sergeant]

This is still the beginning. Where are the revanchists? Why are they still sitting in their offices? After all, the war imposed by them began without them. Let them come and prove that they can do something else besides how to wag their tongues. Damned invaders! If you don’t leave the territory of Azerbaijan for good, we will force you to leave for bad! You have been warned. Now wait for the denouement. The time has just come to send all your revenge-seekers and we will destroy them once and for all.

[DeGreen]

Do you have a clouding of your mind or are you like this in life?

[Sergeant]

Armenia has never fulfilled its obligations to withdraw its armed forces from the territory of Karabakh, even after the UN demands. They will always come up with new reasons to stretch the time. They must be spoken to in the language of power. And all sorts of peace negotiations for them is another attempt to stretch the time.

[Romanovski]

https://realtribune.ru/agressiya-alieva-v-arcahe-diskreditiruet-mirotvorcheskie-usiliya-rossii?utm_source=politobzor.net
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Aliyev's aggression in Artsakh discredits Russia's peacekeeping efforts

[Romanovski]

Do not forget to call on Turkey and terrorists (!) from the Middle East for help again ....

[Elena Lisenco]

Unfortunately, we gave in and did not protect our ally from the aggression of Azerbaijan. Now we are reaping the fruits of betrayal. Surely the Turks want to eliminate Russia's sphere of influence in the Transcaucasus. The Turks have repeatedly stuck a knife in the back, and our unfortunate diplomats have not learned their lesson.

[Vugar Kuliev]

And what were you going to occupy Azerbaijan? Elena, my advice to you is to go to the kitchen and cook soup, not borscht. Borschta Ukrainian

[Crane]

folded and did not protect our ally from aggression
......
When did some kind of Artsakh become an ally of Russia?

[sat2004]

Gulistan peace treaty with Persia 1813. Learn history. There is no concept of the Azerbaijani Republic.

[Romanovski]

In 1806...Read the story...

[sat2004]

I specifically read about two wars on the wiki, I did not find the word Azerbaijan there. Karabakh, Erivan, Nakhichevan met some khanates.

[Romanovski]

https://realtribune.ru/agressiya-alieva-v-arcahe-diskreditiruet-mirotvorcheskie-usiliya-rossii?utm_source=politobzor.net
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Aliyev's aggression in Artsakh discredits Russia's peacekeeping efforts

[man]

When did some kind of Artsakh become an ally of Russia?
But what about the workshop for the production of aircraft carriers in Stepanakert? The damned Azerbaijanis bombed it, which caused irreparable damage to our aircraft carrier building!

[Chronos]

Russia's ally is Armenia, and not Artsakh, which has not yet been recognized by it. Moreover, the CSTO does not consist of two countries. If there is Azerbaijani aggression against Armenia, let Tokayev also actively join.

[Luminman]

Quote: Elena Lisenco

Unfortunately, we gave in and did not protect our ally from the aggression of Azerbaijan.

Do you really consider Armenia an ally of Russia?

[Elena Lisenco]

Armenians, the only country in the Caucasus that relied on the protection of Russia. After taking control of Artsakh, it will become clear that Russia is not able to protect its allies. All Transcaucasia will pass under the sphere of influence of Turkey.

[DeGreen]

Maimun, are you drunk on koumiss? During the Great Patriotic War, the Azerbaijan SSR did not have its own army. There was the Red Army and the Soviet people. Wake up go..Maimun

[man]

During the Great Patriotic War, the Azerbaijan SSR did not have its own army.
You forget about the 40 millionth grouping on the Ural Front, which repulsed Guderian's most powerful tank attack!

[Vugar Kuliev]

And what did the tanks drive, coal?

[man]

And what did the tanks drive, coal?
those. the presence of a 40 million Azerbaijani group in Ural front does not bother you?

[DeGreen]

He is a stupid maimun

[man]

He is stupid
Not stupid, but very stupid. I just wanted to write, but the site does not allow

[Vugar Kuliev]

According to Darwin's theory, you may have evolved from a monkey.

[DeGreen]

I think you look more like a native of the wild forests of Brazil

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Consider if not Azerbaijan with its oil and 600 thousandth army during the Second World War, God knows where you would be.

Firstly, the oil was not Azerbaijan, but the USSR, it was the USSR that invested a lot of money in the exploration and production of oil fields in Azerbaijan.

Secondly, the losses of the army of the entire USSR were about 10 million people and more than 67% of the losses fell on the Russians, and on the Azerbaijanis 0,6% of the losses of the total !!!

All the peoples of the USSR won the war and the contribution of each people is important, but there is no need to shout now that we would not have won without you !!! They won, but with heavy losses, but they won.

And without Russia, both Azerbaijan and its oil would belong to Turkey or Iran, and there would be no Orthodox Armenia and Georgia at all without Russia.

[Sergei Klimov]

Just imagine that the Armenians sent their sappers to the Donbass to clear mines from ukrovoyak. And what did the Azerbaijanis do.

[man]

When Russia learns to treat its neighbors as human beings, a lot will change
I'm sorry that Russia did not consider it necessary to consult with you how to treat its neighbors

[DeGreen]

Maimun, we don't need your love. And you slaughtered the Armenians in a place with the Turks back in 1900

[Luminman]

Armenians, the only country in the Caucasus that relied on the protection of Russia

Are you going to protect her at your own expense? Or at the expense of Russian pensioners?

[sat2004]

This has already passed, they got ukrofascists. It's time to denazify Azerbaijan. Handwriting is one to one with the Ukrofascists - shelling civilians with cassette and phosphorus bombs, destroying churches, Heydar with Ilham buried so many mines in the ground that now it takes 50 years for mine clearance, this is after so many years of mine clearance, the territories transferred to the Artsakh Autonomous Region to Azerbaijan by the world community. As they say, I am glad to visit the transferred territories, but mines are not allowed. And who will live there after treatment with phosphorus and cluster bombs.

[DeGreen]

First of all, it is necessary to carry out the denazification of Armenia, the change of its leadership. There is no less Russophobia in Armenia than in Georgia. Pashinyan did not recognize Karabakh, but demands recognition from Russia

[man]

Handwriting one to one with the ukrofascists - shelling civilians with cassette and phosphorus bombs, destruction of churches
you forgot about three thermonuclear strikes on the "Artsakh Way" state farm and the collapse of the chapel in the 14th century, where without it

[DeGreen]

And Armenians too

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Armenians, the only country in the Caucasus that relied on the protection of Russia.

Armenians are not a country, but a people, and the CSTO is about protecting against an invasion of Armenia, and not in Nagorno-Karabakh, unrecognized by anyone and even by Armenia.

Russia has always considered the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan and called on Armenia for a peaceful settlement of this conflict long before the 2021 war.

Pashinyan could return the occupied areas in exchange for recognizing Nagorno-Karabakh as part of Armenia or strengthen the army of Nagorno-Karabakh with modern weapons, but he did neither the first nor the second, but he quarreled with Russia and began to bully Azerbaijan.

The outcome was predictable.

And now Armenia is trying to bargain. This is stupid and will not give anything except new losses for the Armenians.

[DeGreen]

Correctly written

[Romanovski]

And what? Don't you like it that Armenia is a close ally of the Russian Federation??? Or can Azerbaijan have a close ally in the person of Turkey (NATO MEMBER ...), and Armenia is forbidden to have an ally in the person of Russia?

[Luminman]

Do you not like it that Armenia is a close ally of the Russian Federation ??

From what badoon did you get that Armenia is a close ally of Russia? Had a dream?

[DeGreen]

Armenia will betray Russia with ease, like Ukraine

[Romanovski]

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[Vugar Kuliev]

Russian peacekeepers are discrediting themselves. Either Iranian trucks let through, or prostitutes from France, they do not take illegal Armenian gangs out of the territory of Azerbaijan. No road blocking towards Nakhchivan. The question is what do they do only protect the Armenian gangsters? That's what they came for. If the peacekeepers do not fulfill their duties, the remains of the bandits will be destroyed.

[Romanovski]

And when you bombed the peaceful cities of Artsakh from the UAVs of TURKEY and Israel, and also brought several thousand BANDYUGANS through Turkey against the Armenians of Artsakh - are you white and fluffy? Is that how it works?

[Romanovski]

It's your dreams

[man]

From what badoon did you get that Armenia is a close ally of Russia? Had a dream?
Say, too, what about Lake Sevan? Where Russia will keep its nuclear submarines, we have so few places to maintain them ...

[DeGreen]

What world do you live in? Armenia is an ally only in words. In fact, this is a hidden enemy

[Romanovski]

Armenia - a hidden enemy? Who exactly?

[DeGreen]

Russia. And she will betray us, just as she betrayed Ukraine

[Romanovski]

And when exactly now (when Russia is defending the Donbass ...) - the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are trying to discredit the Russian Ministry of Defense in Karabakh - is this really what Russia's "allies" are doing ??? You (Azerbaijanis ...) should finally stop blaming a healthy head on a healthy one ...

[Romanovski]

"""... Do you really consider Armenia an ally of Russia?..." """ Yes ... We consider and will continue to consider ...

[DeGreen]

Don't speak for the whole country. I will say this, I was 2 times in Azerbaijan (May of this year and November of the past) and in Armenia (March of this year and December of the past), and so, with a non-ally, Azerbaijan, I felt much more comfortable and calmer. And not one Azerbaijani looked askance at me and everyone spoke Russian. But in Yerevan, ally, everything was the other way around

[DeGreen]

I'll be honest, I don't feel sorry for either of them. From the word at all

[Romanovski]

Do you feel sorry for the Russians and Ukrainians (not the Nazis...) either?

[DeGreen]

Don't overdo it. Ukrainians for me are 99% Nazis. Judging by how they behave in Russia, including. In our country, for example, they demanded to ban the march of the Immortal Regiment, they demand to communicate with them on the move. Although we are talking about Armenians and Azeris here

[Romanovski]

If I understand correctly - you feel sorry for Russians and Ukrainians, but this does not apply to Armenians and Azerbaijanis?

[DeGreen]

I don't feel sorry for Ukrainians

[Vana Catu]

The Armed Forces of Azerbaijan have violated the ceasefire regime in the Karabakh conflict zone. This was reported by the press service of the Russian Defense Ministry.

[Vugar Kuliev]

Ms rf has been violating all the rules for 2 years and not expelling illegal Armenian bandit formations, but on the contrary, he has taken the Armenians under the abuse. They dig trenches together, do you know that? Is this what the Russian peacemaker needs? Hence the moral, the Russian peacemaker for us = the occupier... But this occupier is temporary, he has an expiration date.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

They dig trenches together, do you know that?

Azerbaijani do not overdo it and do not star too much!!!

If not for the peacekeepers of Russia, then your compatriots would have died in the war of 2021, not 3000, but an order of magnitude more! And you might be among them.

[Vugar Kuliev]

There are facts. On the Internet, google in bulk video materials. Do you think MS RF are all angels with wings.

[Vugar Kuliev]

Yes, it was preparing the destruction of the 20th army of Armenia in the direction of Khojavend and Aghdam, which were surrounded. Who did not have any equipment or ammunition. We will be able to present the volume of loss of Armenians whom Russia pulled out of the ass. So who would have lost more. They forgot that the Armenian soldiers were not driven to the border with Armenia with weapons, but with kicks in the ass.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

. Who had no equipment or ammunition. We will be able to present the volume of loss of Armenians whom Russia pulled out of the ass. So who would have lost more. They forgot that the Armenian soldiers were not driven to the border with Armenia with weapons, but with kicks in the ass.

Your losses would have grown too, and that is why Aliyev agreed to a ceasefire !!!

And if it weren’t for Russia, it’s not a fact that the conflict would have ended at all so far.

[Vana Catu]

If I were you, I would be careful not to call Russian invaders. And I am even more than sure that the Russian peacekeeping contingent will remain in Nagorno-Karabakh after 2025.

[sat2004]

Then do not go to the grandmother.

[Vugar Kuliev]

They won't stay. Since even before 2025, Azerbaijan has not confirmed the mandate of the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation.

[Romanovski]

He does not want to accept and forgive this (Karabakh will be Russian ...) ... He has his own morality ....

[Romanovski]

https://realtribune.ru/agressiya-alieva-v-arcahe-diskreditiruet-mirotvorcheskie-usiliya-rossii?utm_source=politobzor.net
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[man]

https://realtribune.ru/agressiya-alieva-v-arcahe-diskreditiruet-mirotvorcheskie-usiliya-rossii?utm_source=politobzor.net
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An interesting site in three languages, Russian, English and ...Armenian

[Turtle]

It’s not even interesting to figure out who is swinging the biocabin there, Azerbaijan or Armenia. It is safer for all parties to the conflict to temporarily quiet down until the big boys draw up a new world order, and after that you will decide something. And with the "rules" and "occupiers" there is no need to bawl louder than the thoughts in Putin's head sound: do not forget that there were thirteen more like you in the USSR.

[Romanovski]

https://realtribune.ru/agressiya-alieva-v-arcahe-diskreditiruet-mirotvorcheskie-usiliya-rossii?utm_source=politobzor.net
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[Romanovski]

"""... The Armed Forces of Azerbaijan violated the ceasefire in the zone of the Karabakh conflict..."""
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ATTENTION!!! Read these lines CAREFULLY for those who are still sitting on an armored train with Azerbaijani numbers ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

President of the Republic of Artsakh (NKR) Arayik Harutyunyan signed a decree according to which a partial mobilization was announced in the republic.

Harutyunyan decided to further reduce the number of Armenians in Artsakh?! What does he not understand about the results of the lost war in 2021?!

[Romanovski]

No ... You are mistaken ... He wants to PROTECT YOUR HOMELAND and remind people like you - THE SHAMEFUL DEFEAT FROM THE ARMENIANS OF KARABAKH in 1994 .... And more precisely - to repeat ...

[Romanovski]

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[Boxer]

Quote from Romanovski

""... Azerbaijanis on the battlefield, proved to you how to love the Motherland !!!...."".
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Don’t tell fairy tales here ... IF NOT FOR HELP TO Nine-million AZERBAIJAN from TURKEY (80.000.000 inhabitants ...) - drones, instructors, special forces, aviation and artillery, as well as more than 3000 terrorists to help Azerbaijan from the Middle East, and also modern weapons from Israel, Belarus and the Russian Federation - then Azerbaijan did not come close ("victory" over the Armenians of Karabakh would be too bold for Azerbaijanis ...) so close to the borders of Karabakh, in which TOTAL 130.000 (!!!) inhabitants .. .. And one more thing: Azerbaijan SHOULD NOT FORGET ITS ATTACK (FIRST ...) on Karabakh and its subsequent SHAMEFUL DEFEAT FROM THE ARMENIANS OF KARABAKH in 1994 ... They may repeat ....

It turns out that it was necessary to fight with Armenians like with spears and sabers (they still fight like that now)), otherwise it turned out unfairly, the bad Azerbaijanis used cannons and rockets against you orphaned Armenians who had just some kind of Iskanders, TOSs, Su- 35, the latest electronic warfare, hundreds of tanks, and so on. You understand dishonestly)) Moreover, the Armenians were sitting in the mountain fortified areas, unlike the Azerbaijanis advancing from the lowlands.
Yes, akhper, don’t say, the whole world is against you - there were poor people). You just forgot the most important thing - Bin Laden also fought against the iron ashots there)) Listen, now who are holding you Armenians for causal places and preventing you from reaching to Baku, you boasted pompously that you will drink tea in Baku soon)) It seems that the moment has come, you don’t have Pakistanis, Indonesians, or Syro-Ethiopians or terrible Cthulhs, even Bin Laden doesn’t seem to encroach on you anymore?)) Aren’t you tired of lying ?

[Romanovski]

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[Luminman]

Quote: sat2004

Griboedov A.S.

Griboyedov resettled the Armenians in the territory that became known as Armenia. Now "grateful" Armenians douse his monument with paint...

[sat2004]

So Armenia or Karabakh, where there were so many Armenians in Persia, never asked this question, and the fortresses that the Turks had not yet managed to destroy, the resettled Armenians managed to build them, and this was in 80-90 years. Miracle, with no people. It's like in the movie "I destroyed the same fortress" - Shurik asked.

[Romanovski]

Well, of course .... Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians and Russians (who were killed and slaughtered in Turkey from 1915 to 1923 ...) - still grow and grow to the Turks and Azerbaijanis in terms of skill in building fortresses ....

[Romanovski]

And the Turks and Azerbaijanis, unlike the Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians - this means the most ancient, indigenous and autochthonous peoples of Asia Minor who do not know in principle about NOMADs ???? Did we understand you correctly?

[Romanovski]

And who resettled the Seljuk Turks from Central Asia to Asia Minor ?? Who conquered Constantinople in 1453 along with the lands of modern Turkey??? Who in the Church of Hagia Sophia massacred thousands of people after the capture of Constantinople???? Do you happen to know? Did Griboyedov do this too?

[Gennady Zavalov_2]

Armenians lived in the USSR like in Christ's bosom, then suddenly they shouted about the occupation using the example of Ukrainians. Well, now they are free like a seagull over the sea, only mobilization often has to be announced. They did not know the Russian proverb: - ​​They do not look for good from good. Life, I think, will teach this.

[Romanovski]

"""...then suddenly they shouted about the occupation using the example of Ukrainians....""".
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But there is no need to lie brazenly and distort .... It was the Azerbaijanis who were the first (!) to start the Armenian pogroms in Sumgayit (1988) and in Baku (1990). ....

[isv000]

Quote from Romanovski

"""...then suddenly they shouted about the occupation using the example of Ukrainians....""".
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But there is no need to lie brazenly and distort .... It was the Azerbaijanis who were the first (!) to start the Armenian pogroms in Sumgayit (1988) and in Baku (1990). ....

And, even earlier, both Armenians and Azerbaijanis lived in Baku, and every creature in pairs. And they lived well and together. But then we believed the Yankees.......................................

[isv000]

Quote: Gennady Zavalov_2

Life, I think, will teach this.

Life teaches them nothing. They dumped, for the most part, to Russia and howl here: wai, wai, wai! And to rise and come out in defense of the Motherland, they immediately yell: we are Russians!

[Boxer]

Quote from Romanovski

How "what does Stalin have to do with it" ??? What is not profitable for you - we will not remember ??? So what??? I repeat: the whole world has ALWAYS known for a long time that it was Stalin who gave Karabakh to Azerbaijan in 1921 according to the principle of Machiavelli, i.e. - DIVIDE AND CONQUER ... Exactly THE SAME - LENIN GOT THE RUSSIAN LANDS OF LITTLE RUSSIA to the Ukrainian SSR, and Khrushchev "added" Russia when he GOT Crimea to Ukraine in 1954 .... Look again at the speech of V, V. Putin right BEFORE the start of the NWO in Donbass..

Did the whole world tell you, or did Stalin himself whisper before his death? You have obsessive fantasies, my dear, just do not read the Armenian press, neither before dinner nor after, at all. Read my comments, there is unobtrusive humor and some hint of edification) I am not La Rochefoucauld, but my "maxims" (comments) are definitely better than the Armenian press, and digestion does not spoil from my writing. I strongly recommend, my friend.

[Vugar Kuliev]

Yes, he is Armenian.

[Romanovski]

....and who are you by nation?

[Romanovski]

Recommend to your associates....

[Romanovski]

".....but my "maxims" (comments) are definitely better than the Armenian press....""".
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Seriously? Although, if you do not praise yourself, then others are unlikely to praise ....

[Turtle]

Paradoxically. It is precisely those who are most likely to disappear in the course of it that begin to formally incite the Third World War. Kosovo, Taiwan, Ukraine. Although, Ukraine will disappear even before the official start of TMV.

[isv000]

Quote: Turtle

Although, Ukraine will disappear even before the official start of TMV.

TMV is already underway, and not for the first year ....

[Turtle]

Quite right, but I specifically clarified about the OFFICIAL start

[Emergency]

"... He became a martyr from a bullet wound ..." (c) Poets, rivet-pound! He became two hundred! They won't calm down, jigits. Everything is impatient for the sake of third parties to become a piece of rotting flesh.

[Boxer]

I’m not hinting, but there are many conflicts around you with victims, the number of which is much higher than in these events in Karabakh, especially since the targets of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are exclusively armed military personnel of the Armenian Armed Forces, it is not clear why those who are on the Azerbaijani (!) Ter- rii, and even killing the Azerbaijani military. I think there are conflicts (geographically much closer to you) worth your precious attention and participation, don't you think so? You can express your regret about them, as well as teaching your wise participants in this conflict, you can also give away, they still need them. What was given to you is Karabakh, which is attention (!) Inside Azerbaijan, and not outside, and according to international law, this is an integral part of Azerbaijan

[Turtle]

So, that's how it is! Taiwan Kosovo is also around us? Obviously, I won't argue. I have only one question: what benefit will we get from all these conflicts, why do we need them? Yes, and, in fairness, who is deceiving you about Artskha belonging to Azerbaijan? I, now, heard that the ancient religious buildings on its territory were not Azerbaijani, yes, and the inhabitants of Artsakh themselves were not eager to join Azerbaijan after 1994 ...

[gsev]

Quote: Vlad Baryatinsky

The Persians will not even dare to blather in the direction of Azerbaijan.

During the October war, Iranian tankers calmly carried fuel to the Armenian formations. This means that there was a preliminary agreement and Azerbaijan even warned Iran about the planned war and stipulated the conditions for its conduct. I think that Iran is just as interested in Russia's withdrawal from Azerbaijan as Azerbaijan itself. Iran needs Armenia as a buffer between Turkey and Azerbaijan, it will not fit in Nagorno-Karabakh. I think that Iran will even put pressure on Russia to leave Nagorno-Karabakh, not waste resources there, and focus on confronting the United States in Ukraine and Syria.

[Romanovski]

You are deeply mistaken, dear .... Your intelligence and analytics are lame ....

[gsev]

Quote from Romanovski

..Your intelligence and analytics are lame ....

Quite possible. I have rare Moscow acquaintances who took part in the war in Karabakh. But so far, many of their assessments have come true. I was told that Pashinyan was called to surrender Karabakh immediately after he came to power. Trying to preserve the broad autonomy of Karabakh, Russia opposes both the Armenian political elite and Azerbaijan and Turkey. Pashinyan needs to draw Russia into the war over Karabakh on the northern borders of Azerbaijan.

[Romanovski]

You are mistaken ....
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Today, 06: 51

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Az was. republic, but Karabakh and Nakhichevan were not part of this republic. Read history, not Aliyev's propaganda. Look at the boundaries of the address. The desire to seize these territories led to the refusal to accept the adrs into the league of nations.

[gsev]

Quote from Romanovski

Read history, not Aliyev's propaganda.

I know that in Nagorno-Karabakh, the security of which is controlled by Russian peacekeepers, Armenians live and have lived there for centuries. I know that in the 2020 war, Aliyev captured part of the primordially Armenian territories with a subtropical climate and gold deposits in addition to the liberated primordial Azerbaijani lands. It's just that it is very difficult for Armenia to ensure a normal life for Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh and their security. I wish them good luck in this non-trivial task and statesmanship to their leaders. But I have big doubts that this is really a task for Pashinyan’s party and not an annoying problem that they want to push onto Russia, Iran or France. And even now, some part of the Armenian intelligentsia in Russia is more concerned about organizing the distribution of a film about Bandera's ally, Vlasov and Canaris, Abwehr henchman Garegin Nzhdeh, to the detriment of economic and technical cooperation with Russia.

[isv000]

By the way, Azerbaijan supplied ammunition to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The question is how? Well, this is already for the Turks ... But, in general, here Pashinyan groaned again, saying that the peacekeepers are eating bread in vain! It would be necessary to push these two rhinos with their foreheads, so that sparks would fall like from welding !!! And to pacify, both, with demilitarization and de-governmentization!

[Stepnyak]

Ukraine, Karabakh, Transnistria, Kosovo, Taiwan... I watch a chess game played by grandmasters.

[Romanovski]

In the tripartite statement of November 9, 2020, there is not a single word about the demilitarization of the Republic of Artsakh and the withdrawal of armed forces from the Republic. Former Foreign Minister of Artsakh Masis Mailyan wrote about this on his Facebook page.

“In response to the statement of the Armenian Foreign Ministry dated August 3, 2022, the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry issued a statement accusing Armenia of violating paragraph 4 of the well-known tripartite Statement dated November 9, 2020. The Azerbaijani side continues to make tireless attempts to extract the words “the peacekeeping contingent of the Russian Federation is deploying in parallel with the withdrawal of the Armenian armed forces” from the context of the Statement and present this proposal as a demand for the withdrawal of the Armenian armed forces from all of Nagorno-Karabakh.

In fact, the 4th paragraph of the Statement of November 9 is closely related to the previous 3rd paragraph of the document, which rejects the Azerbaijani interpretation of the document. This paragraph clearly defines the geography of the deployment of the RMK, and hence the withdrawal of Armenian troops. The line of contact and the Lachin corridor are indicated as areas for deployment of the peacekeeping contingent of the Russian Federation.

That is, the 4th point is an agreement on the withdrawal of the Armenian armed forces not from the whole of Nagorno-Karabakh, but from those places where the Russian peacekeeping contingent is deployed. Since the peacekeepers are not yet deployed along the entire Line of Contact, which is impossible due to the small number of contingents, the units of the Artsakh Defense Army have the right and must carry out combat duty in most sections of the Line of Contact. There is not a single word in the Statement about the demilitarization of the Republic of Artsakh and the withdrawal of armed forces from the Republic,” the former minister wrote.

[Boxer]

Quote from Romanovski

In the tripartite statement of November 9, 2020, there is not a single word about the demilitarization of the Republic of Artsakh and the withdrawal of armed forces from the Republic. Former Foreign Minister of Artsakh Masis Mailyan wrote about this on his Facebook page.

“In response to the statement of the Armenian Foreign Ministry dated August 3, 2022, the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry issued a statement accusing Armenia of violating paragraph 4 of the well-known tripartite Statement dated November 9, 2020. The Azerbaijani side continues to make tireless attempts to extract the words “the peacekeeping contingent of the Russian Federation is deploying in parallel with the withdrawal of the Armenian armed forces” from the context of the Statement and present this proposal as a demand for the withdrawal of the Armenian armed forces from all of Nagorno-Karabakh.

In fact, the 4th paragraph of the Statement of November 9 is closely related to the previous 3rd paragraph of the document, which rejects the Azerbaijani interpretation of the document. This paragraph clearly defines the geography of the deployment of the RMK, and hence the withdrawal of Armenian troops. The line of contact and the Lachin corridor are indicated as areas for deployment of the peacekeeping contingent of the Russian Federation.

That is, the 4th point is an agreement on the withdrawal of the Armenian armed forces not from the whole of Nagorno-Karabakh, but from those places where the Russian peacekeeping contingent is deployed. Since the peacekeepers are not yet deployed along the entire Line of Contact, which is impossible due to the small number of contingents, the units of the Artsakh Defense Army have the right and must carry out combat duty in most sections of the Line of Contact. There is not a single word in the Statement about the demilitarization of the Republic of Artsakh and the withdrawal of armed forces from the Republic,” the former minister wrote.

I told you, read less, especially quote us these Armenian dreamers - various Mailyans and the Armenian press. Why is the opinion of some loser here?) It is clear that he will drive his own, the sly one lies. You read this nonsense, then you drag it all here.
But how did the Armenians have Nakhichevan or Karabakh, if before the arrival of the Bolsheviks, under the shameful Treaty of Alexandropol, Armenia shrank to the size of San Marino?) Well, the entire Armenian army, according to its glorious tradition, deserted (some kind of deja vu)) almost in full force before the advancing one Turkish corps (and cropped) under the command of Major General Karabekir. The reason for all this nightmare for the Armenians was the somewhat presumptuous declaration of war(!) by Armenia on Turkey on 24 September. 1920, which resulted in the occupation by the Turks of 95% of the territory of Armenia.
Prior to that, in March 1920, the Azerbaijani army under the command of the Chief of the General Staff of the Az.Army, Major General Habib bey Salimov and the Governor General of Karabakh Khosrov bey Sultanov, defeated the rebellious Armenian formations (and liquidated their command) and expelled the regular units of the Armenian army (under the command General D. Kanayan) occupied Shusha, the Askeran fortress, Khankendi (Stepanakert, who died in the past), almost the whole of Karabakh.
After the arrival of the Bolsheviks in Armenia, the Reds managed to oust the Turks from Armenia by concluding an agreement on mutual assistance with the Kemalists and providing the Turks with military and financial assistance in exchange for the Turks leaving Armenia. But the fact that Karabakh and Zangezur were not controlled by Erivan and, in general, to the Armenians is confirmed by the Armenian government itself of that time. You tell yourself so many fairy tales that in the end you yourself believed in them, as happens with many propagandists)

"The devastation carried out by Andranik caused protests by the Turkish general Khalil Pasha in Erivan, but the Armenian government stated that the territory of Zangezur, like the entire Elizavetpol province (which included the whole of Karabakh), was under the jurisdiction of Azerbaijan, so it could not do anything."
Source: Richard G. Hovannisian. The Republic of Armenia, Volume I: 1918-1919. - London: University of California Press, 1971. - 547 p.

[Romanovski]

Richard Hovhannisyan is a pro-Western figure and a Russophobe ... But you should not justify Turkey's war crimes in Armenia (1918) and Azerbaijan here. in Karabakh 1990-1994 (DEFEAT OF AZERBAIJAN), 2016 (DEFEAT OF AZERBAIJAN in the number of personnel with the "capture" of 400 hectares near Lele-Tepe) and in 2020 ...

[Bronik]

In the early 90s, in Armenia, the expression "Azerbaijani army" caused laughter. Now it's probably the other way around. Maybe I'm wrong?

[Romanovski]

not yet evening...

[Boxer]

Quote: Turtle

So, that's how it is! Taiwan Kosovo is also around us? Obviously, I won't argue. I have only one question: what benefit will we get from all these conflicts, why do we need them? Yes, and, in fairness, who is deceiving you about Artskha belonging to Azerbaijan? I, now, heard that the ancient religious buildings on its territory were not Azerbaijani, yes, and the inhabitants of Artsakh themselves were not eager to join Azerbaijan after 1994 ...

You have moved a little to the side, look closer about conflicts and turn to the parties with smart and peaceful statements, call on those for peace and resolving issues without the use of weapons, by political methods, maybe it will work.
By the way, can you tell me, what political, diplomatic documents, maps, reference books, international treaties contain the official name "Artsakh"? It is funny that the toponym is absolutely not of Armenian origin (recognized by the authoritative Armenian scientists themselves), but appropriated, like many other things, by the Armenians. Habit is second nature
The ancient places of worship do not belong to the Armenians, but to the conquerors of the region, the Parthians Arshakids who built them, and to the local Caucasian-speaking people, the Albanians. The Armenian language belongs to the Indo-European languages. In addition, the Armenians sharply differ from the autochthonous Albanians and other local peoples anthropologically. Armenians are Assyroids (a racial subtype clearly indicating their origin), and Albanians are caspids (a regional subspecies) by race, just like Azerbaijanis and all other local autochthonous peoples: Lezgins, Tsakhurs, Talyshs, Tats, Georgians of eastern Georgia, Ingiloys and even Kumyks. And suddenly the only Assyroids in the region were Armenians who came from Mesopotamia. Problem)

[Romanovski]

Stop spreading false and fabricated theses of Azerprop here.... STOP LIE!

[Boxer]

Quote: Bronik

In the early 90s, in Armenia, the expression "Azerbaijani army" caused laughter. Now it's probably the other way around. Maybe I'm wrong?

In the early 90s, there was no Azerbaijani army, but there were mostly irregular territorial battalions of local Karabakh Azerbaijani peasants, and even then they managed to hold out for 4 years.

[Romanovski]

Stop LIE .... And in the early 90s, Azerbaijan got 10 times more weapons, ammunition and aviation from the USSR than from the USSR for Armenia ....

[Boxer]

Quote from Romanovski

""".... Turks AND RUSSIAN I DESTROY WITH SUCH PLEASURE,..."".
But there is no need to lie here according to the Goebbels method ... Nzhdeh did not utter the words "RUSSIAN" during interrogation, but said - BOLSHEVIK ... Your cheap tricks with supposedly "mechanical errors" of quoting will be used in Baku ...

You have the manners of a typical Armenian propagandist, inexpensive and narrow-minded) Propagandists have national features, yours are betrayed by your desire to dissemble with or without reason, so peasantly, unpretentious, somewhat stupid. To be honest, your general childish level of discourse and culture of controversy is disappointing. Above, I gave a link to the original source of the Armenian author, I must give it again: https://politsturm.com/garegin-nzhde-mif-i-realnost-chast-2/
And if this is also unattainable for the "brilliant" arm.intellect, then for especially gifted neighbors (and you have almost all of them) "analysts" a screen of the page from the book is also attached. All claims to the respected author - Ashot Abgaryan. You can sue him, if that)