Pilot production of a multifunctional drone started at a Russian military-industrial complex enterprise

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The press service of JSC Concern VKO Almaz-Antey announced the start of production of a pilot batch of multifunctional lungs drones domestic development of increased strength and maneuverability. At present, several types of UAVs have already been developed, after testing prototypes, serial production will begin drones. After entering the series, the share of Russian components in the product will be up to 90%, the concern emphasized.

The All-Russian Research Institute of Radio Equipment, which is part of the concern, is completing work on the creation of a multi-profile domestic light unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), the production of which will be localized at the concern's enterprises

- quotes the press service of the concern RIA News.

Drone control, flight task input, camera display are carried out using a laptop, smartphone or tablet, a first-person view mode is provided. For an autonomous flight outside the zone of communication with the operator, it is possible to preload the route. The key input device for transmitting information to the onboard part is interfaced via standard USB protocols with a computer or tablet.

The UAV has a speed of up to 120 km/h and is capable of covering a distance of up to 20 kilometers at a maximum altitude of up to three kilometers and a distance from the control center of at least five kilometers. Thanks to the use of modern materials and additive technologies in production, the drone design is highly durable and lightweight. High maneuverability of the drone is also ensured by small dimensions - 250 mm x 250 mm x 100 mm. At the same time, the all-weather aircraft can withstand high wind loads and low temperatures.

Serial production of UAVs is planned to begin next year after the completion of the production localization program at the concern's enterprises. By this time, the developers will create their own flight controller with an identification function and original software, as well as complete the development of data transmission equipment over an encrypted control channel and video broadcast. All software that will be used in the Russian drone is developed by the concern's specialists.

The press service of the Almaz-Antey concern reported that in terms of its technical and flight characteristics, the Russian UAV is in many ways superior to foreign developments in a similar class of multifunctional unmanned aerial vehicles. The enterprises included in the holding are primarily known for their military developments. In particular, the concern produces the famous S-300, S-400 and S-500 air defense systems. Experts believe that the new drone will primarily solve the tasks of aerial reconnaissance and will immediately begin to enter service with the RF Armed Forces.
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  1. +36
    3 August 2022 17: 19
    Serial production of the UAV is planned to begin next year.

    Well, then let's talk about their effectiveness.
    1. +30
      3 August 2022 17: 25
      The press service of the Almaz-Antey concern reported that in terms of its technical and flight characteristics, the Russian UAV is in many ways superior to foreign developments in a similar class of multifunctional unmanned aerial vehicles.
      "Unparalleled!"...
      That's good news, but why didn't they bungle it five years ago?
      Well, after all, the experience of combat use in Russia already had its own, it is clear that someone else's experience is not a decree for us.
      We have not been "fighting" there for eight years, we have already spent hundreds of toy UAVs, it is already clear that thousands are needed, and the cart has not yet moved ...
      Sad ...
      I have repeatedly suggested (to your sofas from my sofa): "MO - well, buy 120 tons of these same Maviks in China, distribute them at the front and so that the foreman has a supply in the supply room."
      Well, why are centralized purchases not made?
      It is, of course, clear that toys will not be able to pass GENERALLY no minimum tests.
      But there is no replacement for them!
      And we need it right now! THOUSANDS needed! Volunteers deliver TENS!
      1. +12
        3 August 2022 17: 27
        Please note that Diamond Antey did not even write anything similar. These are such grief comedians write.
      2. +4
        3 August 2022 17: 54
        Quote: Victor_B
        That's good news, but why didn't they bungle it five years ago?

        There was no such task set - so they didn’t bungle it.
        It seems that they have done it on their own initiative (which, by the way, is punishable)
        without any government funding.
        => It seems to me that there is nothing to spy on the guys-developers. hi
        1. +16
          3 August 2022 18: 21
          It is difficult to say exactly when the development of the Orion UAV began.
          The exact date of commencement of work on the Orion UAV project remains unknown. In 2011, the Ministry of Defense signed a contract for the development of this drone with the St. Petersburg company "Transas", and in the design documentation the device was initially assigned the code "Pacer".


          In 2015, the Rotax 914 engine was copied for it, and the APD-115T appeared.
          For five years, it was not possible to provide turbocharging and propeller pitch adjustment.
          In the spring of 2020, the Defense Ministry received the first 3 Orion UAVs with raw engines without turbocharging and propeller pitch adjustment. In Syria and at exhibitions, the Orion was offered with an Austrian engine.
          In 2021, Shoigu was promised to be supplied with 18 Orion UAVs made at a pilot plant. Well, where are they?
          https://militaryarms.ru/voennaya-texnika/aviaciya/rossijskij-razvedyvatelno-udarnyj-bpla-orion/
          https://dfnc.ru/novosti-vpk/gruppa-kronshtadt-peredali-minoborony-pervye-bpla-orion/
          1. +1
            5 August 2022 08: 58
            In fact, the pacer is used.
            1. 0
              9 August 2022 23: 32
              A fairy tale in which some comrades live - do not destroy;)
          2. -1
            5 August 2022 09: 10
            Quote: Sexton
            In 2015, the Rotax 914 engine was copied for it, and the APD-115T appeared.
            For five years it was not possible to provide

            Because the approach to business is official, as in the USSR. Things like UAVs should be developed not by defense enterprises, but by commercial ones. We need a good civilian version. Defenders are too boney.
      3. +7
        3 August 2022 18: 14
        But what can I say, when there is a war, then all means are good, people survived as best they could, they hung cans on a thorn, used a piece of a mirror for a sniper, and Molotov cocktails are worth something. Barmaley in Syria collected drones on their knees and attacked our base constantly. But our generals should have everything according to the charter ....
        1. +11
          3 August 2022 20: 54
          Quote: navigator777
          But our generals should have everything according to the charter ....

          I have always been touched by the riddle: - What can not be done in the Navy? -- The answer!!!
          1. Force the flyer to serve;
          2. To force the cap-lei to sleep with his wife;
          3. Dismiss Kaperang to the reserve!
          And then you want to move the whole GENERAL from the feeder! - This, brother, is from the realm of fantasy !!! They have grown into their chairs with all the root connections, all the dachas and privileges, all the fibers of the soul!
          And so that this "happiness" would not end longer, a law was dragged through the State Duma on extending the service life of "especially valuable" to the grave ...
          It seems to me that it is necessary to create a scientific and technical committee of young geeks in order to move the latest developments to the troops and navy. Otherwise, we will not see good luck: we will always be catching up ...
          And then, it's time to change something in the "conservatory" itself... The system of auctions, tenders and purchases of weapons and military equipment is not for the Armed Forces! Warriors should have everything according to the state defense order! With the obligatory execution of the task-order by everyone, regardless of the form of ownership. Then we will have UAVs, and LABs will become cheaper, and hundreds of new torpedoes will appear ...
          Yes, and it is high time to put Kudrin's egg-box into action. And quickly reorient to the domestic market, and to the East. It's time to drive the pro-Western bastard from leadership positions with a fucking broom.
          The time has come to act, otherwise it will be too late: the doctrine of the TROJAN HORSE began to take on more and more bizarre outlines. We are already ready to hang country-U for inexpensively around our necks. First, rip it apart to the handle, and unload the wreckage to us, the orphans, so that they squirm, restoring the once fraternal union republic. --
          You will not say anything: - Cunningly invented!
          But.
          1. 0
            4 August 2022 15: 13
            It seems to me that it is necessary to create a scientific and technical committee of young geeks in order to move the latest developments to the troops and navy. Otherwise, we will not see good luck: we will always be catching up ...

            Under the current system, nothing will work, this committee has been rejected by the system. And age does not play a role, that's what rights they will have and what will be the composition (engineers or effective managers?)
            And then, it's time to change something in the "conservatory" itself... The system of auctions, tenders and purchases of weapons and military equipment is not for the Armed Forces! Warriors should have everything according to the state defense order! With the obligatory execution of the task-order by everyone, regardless of the form of ownership.

            Yes, the conservatory needs to be changed. Only not to introduce a command management system, but economic methods of management. There should be a competition for the state order with a queue of those who want to fulfill this order, and not exaggerated one-day, but real industrial enterprises, and private ones are better than state ones, they treat orders more responsibly and there is no corruption on them, but state orders. enterprises are empty business, they cut money (mainly management), and then they come up with a reason why the order was not fulfilled ... options are possible ... for example, they show all sorts of bullshit later ... I have already seen enough of all sorts of options ... it is necessary to change something in the conservatory!!!
            1. 0
              9 August 2022 23: 38
              There is no corruption in private enterprises!? Finally ! :)
              1. 0
                10 August 2022 03: 52
                There is no corruption in private enterprises!? Finally ! :)

                Why does this surprise you? I work at a private enterprise that produces high-tech products, where the director is the owner and where there is no corruption because the director cannot steal from the owner.
                1. 0
                  10 August 2022 11: 09
                  But zamyi, supply - as well as they can! :)
                  1. 0
                    10 August 2022 12: 54
                    I didn’t notice this, if anyone cheated a little - these are mere pennies from the cash flow of the enterprise. Compared to the state structures - simply incommensurable!
          2. 0
            4 August 2022 19: 45
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            And so that this "happiness" would not end longer, a law was dragged through the State Duma on extending the service life of "especially valuable" to the grave ...

            Something it reminds me of ...
          3. +1
            4 August 2022 19: 54
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            It seems to me that it is necessary to create a scientific and technical committee of young geeks

            You haven't seen this near the subject. For the most part, today's guys can only "search for information on the Internet" and can do it. There are exceptions, but they are extremely few.
            It is necessary to look not at formal grounds (sex/age/position/proximity to superiors), but at the results.
            And for results in the real sector, you need to know a lot, which requires both time and the ability to work. Teaching doesn't help here.
            But the most important thing is the restoration of personal responsibility, proportional to the level of authority. A system without feedback is no more viable than the notorious vertical of power.
          4. 0
            5 August 2022 09: 17
            But recently some responsible uncle from dogoz was arrested with accomplices
            (Lost the link for some reason)
      4. +6
        3 August 2022 21: 55
        and also complete the development of equipment for data transmission over an encrypted control channel and video broadcasting.

        This means that there is no UAV!
        Recently, while looking through the TLG, I found material that the Orlan-10 UAV control crew came under fire and the commander was wounded. I was very surprised and raised the performance characteristics of this UAV and even the more advanced Orlan-30:
        Maximum takeoff weight, kg 31
        Payload mass, kg 6
        Flight altitude range, m 300-5000
        Maximum flight altitude (above sea level), m 5000
        Range of flight speeds, km / h 80-150
        Maximum range of information transmission, km 120
        Maximum range of the control channel, km 120
        Target detection height, m:
        – unmasked person (all types of equipment) 900
        - cars or groups of people (photographic equipment) 1200
        Flight time in the temperature range, h:
        - from -35°С to -5°С 6
        - from -5°С to +49°С 8

        http://nevskii-bastion.ru/orlan-30/
        Look at the magic number:
        Maximum range of information transmission, km 120
        And now we read further:
        If it is necessary to receive a television image from the UAV AWP (workstation) at the NPU (Ground Control Station), it is equipped with the ground part of the television system with a directional antenna at a distance of up to 10 km and a narrowly directed antenna system with a servo drive for ranges up to 30 km.

        Need additional equipment. And range is only 10 km. Here is the UAV. Here is the intelligence. And before that, "Orlan-10" flew along the route and wrote to the carrier, which was decoded after landing. BUT 120 km is the range of a secure radio channel for controlling the flight parameters of the UAV and their transmission in the form of information to the remote control, and waypoints, and that’s it, you can’t transmit an image over this channel. Aida Borisov, Aida "modern" army ...
        “We are dynamically developing in this direction and have almost all types of unmanned vehicles: reconnaissance, strike, tactical and operational, and operational-tactical,” the Deputy Prime Minister noted.

        https://rueconomics.ru/23485716-vitse_prem_er_borisov_rossiya_raspolagaet_prakticheski_vsemi_vidami_bespilotnikov
        1. -1
          5 August 2022 09: 22
          Yes, firewood, this eagle 10 has long been clear.
          The level of the drone with Aliexpress, and not the military one.
          :(
        2. 0
          9 August 2022 23: 44
          Very normal parameters. What did you expect?
      5. 0
        9 August 2022 19: 00
        Maviks simple will not work. There you need to do something with the gps mod, a lot of people have already died from the fact that they are hitting the coordinates of these models.
        In addition, dji does not officially supply devices to either the Russian Federation or Ukraine.
    2. +13
      3 August 2022 17: 39
      After entering the series, the share of Russian components in the product will be to 90%,

      How familiar it is ... That is why in the production of civil aircraft and cars we have
      no problems now
      ...
      Like planes and cars
      1. +4
        3 August 2022 17: 50
        Banal block ABS ......
      2. -6
        3 August 2022 18: 55
        How is this familiar

        Are we going back to the 80s? Then they just as unanimously found fault with their own.
        Exactly the same howl of the cypsota stood at one time in the comments and under Caliber and Zircons - they say these are all cartoons.
        1. +8
          3 August 2022 19: 34
          Quote: lucul
          How is this familiar

          Are we going back to the 80s? Then they just as unanimously found fault with their own.
          Exactly the same howl of the cypsota stood at one time in the comments and under Caliber and Zircons - they say these are all cartoons.

          In the 80s, production was 99% domestic, maximum ATS. And the workers were a respected profession, and not like now, somewhere between teachers (an even more respected profession before) and managers, God forgive me, of the lower level. So don't be rude. Give me back the 80s, I will personally kiss you like Brezhnev, three times hi
          PS And they began to find fault only at the end of the 80s, as the GMS with their "pluralism" is all zasra.l
          1. +1
            5 August 2022 09: 31
            In the 80s, consumer goods were blamed; in the USSR they really were below the plinth, which is already there. Well, except for Maeby's food.
    3. -3
      3 August 2022 18: 07
      It's already too late.
      I hope this masterpiece is ideal for flying in Eastern Europe?
      In the Western Carpathians and the lowlands of the Oder
    4. +3
      3 August 2022 18: 25
      "don't say gop?"
    5. 0
      4 August 2022 12: 56
      Quote: Terenin
      Well, then let's talk about their effectiveness.

      The road will be mastered by the walking one, in order to do something, it is necessary to start moving. Almaz-Antey has earned the title of a high-class manufacturer, so it can handle drones as well. Good luck! hi
  2. +8
    3 August 2022 17: 31
    Those who have no analogues in the world have already got it! They would just make YOUR mediocre apparatus, and no one is interested in barking at the moon.
    1. +15
      3 August 2022 17: 42
      I'm afraid that the missing 10% can play a cruel joke on the production of this UAV miracle. It is necessary to do it completely 100%, and so again, dependence on someone.
      1. +4
        3 August 2022 18: 15
        Then the deadlines will have to be postponed and the "anal no" should be abandoned
        1. -1
          4 August 2022 12: 59
          Quote: Fedor1
          Then the deadlines will have to be postponed and the "anal no" should be abandoned

          Absolutely right! We need it here and now, and then we will correct it as the play progresses...
      2. -2
        3 August 2022 18: 44
        Do not forget that ours take out household appliances and electronics from urine, from which chips and microcircuits are soldered, which are then used in the production of tanks, aircraft and missiles. Here you have the missing 10% )))))))))))))) laughed when I read it on some kind of ukrosite))))
        1. -6
          3 August 2022 18: 49
          Do not forget that ours take out household appliances and electronics from urine, from which chips and microcircuits are soldered, which are then used in the production of tanks, aircraft and missiles. Here is the missing 10%

          It's already too fat, even for tsipsota))))
          1. -2
            3 August 2022 19: 44
            Take it higher
            https://topwar.ru/196190-chinovnica-ssha-so-ssylkoj-na-ukrainskih-jekspertov-vs-rf-ispolzujut-v-svoej-tehnike-chipy-iz-ukrainskih-bytovyh-priborov.html?ysclid=l6duad6vgl46730216

            https://m.vk.com/wall716930738_2822
  3. +2
    3 August 2022 17: 31

    Similar or the same? This is the DJI Inspire 1, the price is 253937 rubles. https://tehnoteca.ru/item/100589
    I just decided to do a search by image in Yandex.
    BUT - I think that this is just a picture taken for illustration. If the author of the note is in the chat - answer!
    Another thing is what kind of drone it will be and what will be the price for it? Although, from experience, one can imagine that more.
    1. +2
      3 August 2022 17: 42
      Quote: Galleon
      I just decided to do a search by image in Yandex.
      BUT - I think that this is just a picture taken for illustration. If the author of the note is in the chat - answer!

      It also says that the photo is illustrative.
      1. MMX
        +4
        3 August 2022 18: 22
        As practice has shown, in modern Russia, import substitution means that one importer is replaced by another.
        Therefore, from the Russian there will be (if any) only staff of logisticians and effective managers. The rest is from the holy Aliexpress.
        1. 0
          9 August 2022 23: 49
          Yeah, Antey-Almaz without Ali - not a step! laughing
          1. MMX
            0
            10 August 2022 18: 25
            Quote: stankow
            Yeah, Antey-Almaz without Ali - not a step! laughing


            Well, why not. Is Almaz-Antey not in Russia or what? laughing
            Not so long ago there was a presentation of an electric car from A-A. So there it is just according to the principle "from the world along a thread, a naked caftan." Enthusiasts have already sorted out in detail what and where it was taken tongue
            1. 0
              10 August 2022 22: 51
              Zelektrotachka - civil production. And someone else's will not be invested in military products. Has its own electronics. I am a radio engineer, I can appreciate what Russia has. Quite enough for the S-500 and beyond.
              1. MMX
                0
                11 August 2022 18: 02
                And someone else's will not be invested in military products. Has its own electronics. I am a radio engineer, I can appreciate what Russia has.


                Seriously?
                What is it like?


                Or is it this?


                Proof:
                https://static.rusi.org/RUSI-Silicon-Lifeline-final-web.pdf
                1. 0
                  12 August 2022 00: 59
                  Seriously ? And what kind of spherical vacuum "Russian military equipment" is this. What did the "British teachings" say? Who are they
                  Anteev's S-400s were dismantled?
                  1. MMX
                    0
                    14 August 2022 17: 45
                    Quote: stankow
                    Seriously ? And what kind of spherical vacuum "Russian military equipment" is this. What did the "British teachings" say? Who are they
                    Anteev's S-400s were dismantled?


                    What are you talking about? There, at the link, everything is described in detail - what and where is used wink
      2. -1
        3 August 2022 23: 28
        But about the "illustration photo" - this is a subsequent addition after my post.
    2. 0
      3 August 2022 17: 47
      "Illustrated photo" tells you something?)))
      1. -1
        3 August 2022 23: 30
        Illustrative - not illustrated. This word was inserted after my post.
    3. +5
      3 August 2022 21: 14
      Quote: Galleon
      what kind of drone will it be and what will be the price for it?

      It will be an electric DRIN ...
      Therefore, at least two PROBLEMS immediately arise in full growth !!!
      1. valve electric motors with efficiency under 99,9%. Light and powerful, on permanent magnets made of very rare earth metals ... The guardians, for example, have had such for a long time and even stand on boats ...
      2. Lightweight and capacious power supplies. And preferably cheap. Because there will be a lot of them! (Where are the promised organosilicon AK/AB!?)
      And what do we have in the field of ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING and autonomous power supplies!?
      That's it! And you say "PEACOCKS!" (With).
      1. +3
        4 August 2022 05: 20
        In Novosibirsk and Kazan there is definitely a production of LiIon and LiFe batteries. hi
        I don't know about engines, can someone tell me
        1. +3
          5 August 2022 09: 41
          Well, it's like
          Kaluga

          https://m.opt-union.ru/i_store/item_1000801069/ventilnye-elektrodvigateli.html
  4. +4
    3 August 2022 17: 31
    Well, since Almaz has taken it, they will build it for sure. The abundance of "super opportunities" is frightening. Usually there is a wild price behind this. As with the "Azart" radios, for example.
  5. -2
    3 August 2022 17: 36
    Well, yes, well, yes, the thunder will not strike, or the rooster will not peck ...
    1. -3
      3 August 2022 21: 17
      Suggest waiting for it to arrive
      IRON CAPUT!? laughing
  6. +8
    3 August 2022 17: 37
    Again we begin to "divide the skin of an unkilled bear." Let's wait for the series, and then we'll talk. In the meantime, these are only plans that may change or not come true at all.
  7. +7
    3 August 2022 17: 42
    Quote: Terenin
    Serial production of the UAV is planned to begin next year.

    Well, then let's talk about their effectiveness.

    News like the rest of the bravura, in the future tense. And by the time this time comes, there will be as many new ones, again with a perspective. Eh, it's a pity on VO (and it's done by us) there is no heading "memory pill", like Shariy's. When dizzying promises about interplanetary congresses would be remembered, and there would be an update of the situation.
    1. +2
      3 August 2022 17: 48
      And apple trees will bloom on Mars ..... that's just when request
      1. +2
        3 August 2022 21: 20
        Quote: Alien From
        And apple trees will bloom on Mars ..... that's just when request

        When the atmosphere is restored and the fertile layer of soil from the planet EARTH is brought under the apple orchards...
        Check out when that happens! bully
        1. -2
          4 August 2022 00: 07
          Quote: BoA KAA
          Quote: Alien From
          And apple trees will bloom on Mars ..... that's just when request

          When the atmosphere is restored and the fertile layer of soil from the planet EARTH is brought under the apple orchards...
          Check out when that happens! bully

          There is no magnetic field on Mars, so there will never be an atmosphere there. It will simply be blown away by the solar wind, which in its remnants will reach the planet.
          1. +3
            4 August 2022 15: 33
            Quote: SovAr238A
            There is no magnetic field on Mars, so there will never be an atmosphere there.

            There is an atmosphere, but it is very thin.
            About the planet's magnetic field. There are plans to "ignite" the core of the planet and give it an angular velocity to increase gravity. But these plans are more like science fiction. At least not for our level of development of science and technology ...
            1. +2
              4 August 2022 16: 02
              Solar energy and sleep in the subway.
              The pressure at the surface of Mars is 160 times less than the earth's - 6,1 mbar at the average surface level. The atmosphere somewhat slows down meteorite bodies, so there are fewer craters on Mars than on the Moon, and they are less deep.
              Therefore: lol
              “I think the Boring Company will help put people on Mars. We will drill tunnels for the guys,” said
              Gwynn Shotwell
              “You can build an entire underground city if you want,” said
              Mask
              “People will certainly come to the surface from time to time, but with the right drilling technology, an entire dungeon could be built on Mars.”

              “That doesn’t bother me at all,” Novago said angrily. - I already spoke with Ivanenko. It will be possible to equip a centrifuge.
              Mandel thought.
              “It's a thought,” he said.
              He came up with it well - a centrifuge. Seven or eight hours a day of normal severity for the boy will be quite enough.
              http://www.rusf.ru/abs/books.htm
              Strugatsky. 1960–1962 Noon, XXII century. Night on Mars
          2. -2
            5 August 2022 09: 46
            Chivo? Chivo?
            No magnetic field?
            Yes, even a billiard ball has a magnetic field.
            Over Mars, if anything, even a NASA helicopter sometimes flies.
            Count it up!
            1. -1
              6 August 2022 01: 01
              Quote: kytx
              Chivo? Chivo?
              No magnetic field?
              Yes, even a billiard ball has a magnetic field.
              Over Mars, if anything, even a NASA helicopter sometimes flies.
              Count it up!

              Study those parameters of the magnetic field that must be in order for the atmosphere to be safe from solar flares.
              I highly recommend.
              What the hell
              1. -1
                6 August 2022 07: 01
                I described myself, of course, I meant the gravitational field and not the magnetic one.
                Mars, if anything, has both, and the atmosphere is also there, dense enough that a NASA drone could fly there. Draw me your flashes? You'll still beat my head here. Read it yourself.
      2. 0
        9 August 2022 23: 52
        Ask the mask, he finally manages Mars laughing
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  9. +3
    3 August 2022 17: 45
    We can only wish VNIIRA success in their new field!
    As for the frail (according to my concepts) device, it seems to me that it is worth adding a function to it at the command of the operator (when he considers the object important) to sit down somewhere (perhaps for a long time, without wasting energy on flight and return) and serve as a suggestive beacon for a long time. hi
  10. -6
    3 August 2022 17: 49
    Why is it that every time when some new weapon is being designed, it is necessarily compared with foreign counterparts?
    1. Alf
      +2
      3 August 2022 19: 14
      Quote: Insolent_Schoolboy
      Why is it that every time when some new weapon is being designed, it is necessarily compared with foreign counterparts?

      And with what else to compare it? With whom they are going to fight, it is necessary to compare with that.
      1. -9
        3 August 2022 19: 18
        Well, when they fight, then we will compare. And so it's all unfounded
        1. 0
          3 August 2022 23: 41
          Here the Ukrainian Nazis did not compare, but stuck out in their frenzy. And when it came to the point, it turned out to be seams. For example, like this https://topwar.ru/199867-iz-600-perebrasyvaemyh-k-peskam-i-avdeevke-mobilizovannyh-vsu-pod-udarami-vs-rf-do-mesta-dobralis-ne-bolee- 80.html
          Do you want this for us? Then get used to thinking.
          1. -6
            3 August 2022 23: 49
            Something you froze some stupidity. I don’t understand the Ukrainian military-industrial complex, and I don’t have any information about what they compared or didn’t compare.
            On paper, any arms manufacturer will say that there are no analogues to its products in order to fill the price for a potential buyer. You can really compare the effectiveness of a weapon only on the battlefield.
  11. -1
    3 August 2022 17: 59
    Russia also has something else in the "zagashniks:
    according to Forbes magazine, Russia has a Kalina laser system, which today is an ideal space weapon. It operates, without exaggeration, at the speed of light, and can "reach out" to any enemy spy satellite without fear of any anti-missiles.
    Of course, the combat laser does not work in the way that science fiction writers describe. It does not "cut" or explode satellites. The main task of Kalina is that thanks to accurate and adaptive optics, Kalina detects and identifies satellites in orbit with such exceptional pointing accuracy that it can “dazzle” the focal plane of any electron-optical satellite system. First of all, we are talking about disabling the missile attack warning system. In the short term - targeting systems for long-range artillery and MLRS.
    Kalina is the third laser system developed as part of the Russian space surveillance complex Krona. Among other things, the device can be called invisible. Kalina does not require conventional reloading or extensive supply chains. And after a laser strike, there will be no fragments, no plume, no contrail. It is impossible to prove its use. It’s just that at one moment, far from perfect for the Pentagon, warning satellites will stop working and target detection systems will fail. For example, the same vaunted HIMARS without satellite target designation will turn into an analogue of the usual Grad. But it's still half the trouble. According to Forbes, if even now Kalina can blind any of the American systems, then the next logical stage of development will be the creation by Moscow of a high-power laser system. And she can no longer blind, but completely burn American space objects. Moreover, not only orbital military satellites, but also lunar bases.
    And this is written not by friends of Russia, but by enemies.
    1. +3
      3 August 2022 19: 48
      Russia also has something else in the "zagashniks"

      Exactly. And for this mention you were given two minuses. I wonder how much it will be for me from those who write analogues there are no together and in quotation marks laughing , if I say that the prototype test took place in 2003. and as a result of it, someone, something lost. Well, they brought them to mind and it pleases. In general, according to ancient tradition, we don’t have Omeriga with promotions, if something was told or shown to us, then there is something more interesting in the stash.))
  12. +1
    3 August 2022 18: 02
    I was delighted at first, since it’s a large concern, it means something “new”. The air defense series “C” will also launch and control the “swarm” drones.
  13. 0
    3 August 2022 18: 03
    The press service of JSC Concern VKO Almaz-Antey announced the start of production of a pilot batch of multifunctional light UAVs of domestic design with increased strength and maneuverability.

    The brainstorming continues...
  14. +1
    3 August 2022 18: 08
    But what about "pacers", "eagles" and other well-publicized UAVs? all lies and cut another one?
    1. 0
      9 August 2022 23: 57
      They are fighting. Successfully.
  15. +1
    3 August 2022 18: 08
    Quote: author
    In particular,☝️ the concern produces the famous S-300, S-400 and S-500 air defense systems.

    Thank you Alexander Grigoriev, otherwise we (slurping soup with bast shoes) didn’t even know hi
    Almaz-Antey, something in earnest broke up with non-core products.
    Here and cute and unique in terms of characteristics E-NEVA

    and an absolutely necessary outdoor vacuum cleaner

    and even SVT 20/50 water meters demanded by fiscal officials.
    It’s a pity that there was a long fuss with Prliment-Redut (Curator is the well-known “specialist” D. Rogozin), up to the dismissal of General Vitaly Neskorodov .... Yes, and on ships there are 1,2 of them and that's it.
    Yes, and the spherical CONFORMAL ACTIVE PHASED ANTENNA ARRAY seems to have sunk into oblivion
    request
    1. +4
      3 August 2022 18: 16
      All right, now let's live like people ...))))
      We will move along the clean licked streets only on electric-gas carriages!
    2. -3
      3 August 2022 21: 18
      Sad to see this. When hybrid armored cars are created in the United States to power the electric drives of artillery systems, charge drones, radio stations and conduct silent reconnaissance, our defense concern demonstrates rare electric vehicles for the very rich.
  16. +1
    3 August 2022 18: 27
    Our advertisers in the military-industrial complex would already stop disgracing themselves with their “unparalleled” and “superior / not inferior to the best analogues”. Especially with regard to developments that do not yet exist and may not appear at all
  17. +1
    3 August 2022 18: 29
    Our military needed such a drone yesterday
  18. 0
    3 August 2022 19: 29
    Of course, I am a civilian "bolt from the mountain" and have nothing to do with the military-industrial complex, but I studied well at school. How difficult is it to put two high-precision independently-moving cameras with aiming reticles on the drone and display separate images on VR glasses, so that instead of driving the drone along the plane, stupidly raise it higher, aim at the target like binoculars, and land on the base, and tablet-kampukhtor, there, let it calculate the distance to the target from the angle between the cameras and the height of the ascent, so that the gunners do not shoot, but immediately hit the bull's-eye with an enema?
    Or drive them along the route in pairs of threes, so that if one of the drones is lost, the partners can not only dump them into the fog, but also cut down where the enemy is hitting from? In the sense that the copters exchange information in flight and record not only their data, but also the data of their neighbors in a flock)))
    1. -1
      3 August 2022 23: 35
      Quote: Turtle
      How difficult is it to put two high-precision independently-moving cameras with aiming reticles on a drone and display separate images on VR goggles,

      1. For this, you need to have your own GPS, cameras, controllers and data transmission facilities, at least.
      I remind you of the "eagles" cameras Phase One IXU 150, Phase One IXA 180, Sony RX-1, Canon 5D Mark II, Controp D-STAMP and U-STAMP, thermal imagers Flir Photon 320 and 640, cameras without TV BHV-558 EX ,Controp D-STAMP, U-STAMP
      2. VR glasses don't seem to be produced here?
      These are from Rostec

      and these are from Sokol Design Bureau

      won't fit
      3. The reverse channel, as a rule, is not encrypted, due to the low bandwidth and the resulting delays (encrypt- send - receive - decipher), so as not to increase the delay for the reaction time and not to load the onboard brain and power source. "Reading" by a third party will give practically nothing, and it is difficult to intercept (from above, downwards with a directional antenna, at the limit of the radio horizon)
      so it's not enough
      Maximum video bitrate
      H.264/H.265 Bitrate: 200Mbps
      Apple ProRes 422 HQ Bitrate: 3772 Mbps
      Apple ProRes 422 Bitrate: 2514 Mbps
      Apple ProRes 422 LT Bitrate: 1750 Mbps
      and you want to "stereo" load?
      Quote: Turtle
      there, let him calculate the distance to the target from the angle between the cameras and the height of the rise so that the gunners do not shoot

      so they do it. Here is the "work" of the Lelek UAV
      there are 2a at least or 3i
      https://youtu.be/uqM0gJxUJlQ
      something like this (in several azimuths to the target)

      /photo taken from @lopatov_45
      1. 0
        4 August 2022 19: 04
        I understood about the cameras and the bandwidth of the communication channels - it's a shame! I also understood about the work of drones as a group - this is good, the same two eyes, but they fly separately (but the coordinates are determined more precisely this way). We need to rivet more UAVs. Perspective weapon.
        1. -4
          4 August 2022 19: 32
          We need to rivet more UAVs.

          Yes. They changed the methods of war.
          In principle, this could have been predicted after 1982 after Artsav-19

          Pay attention to the year ☝️
          1. 0
            10 August 2022 00: 06
            Reconnaissance and shooting with aircraft correction was still in WWI. Since then, in all charters, textbooks and instructions. I taught myself in the 70s. Reconnaissance drones were there even then. She is such a youth - she thinks that the world begins with her ... wink Well, it is important that passionarity be! wink
          2. +1
            10 August 2022 23: 44
            Quick response, Bumblebee-1

            1983 year
            1. 0
              17 August 2022 21: 03
              1983 year

              1986 or 1989?
              In 1983, a Russified Israeli flew.
              And so yes: and Pchela-1T has a place to be.
              Only where are they in the troops that they conduct NWO
              1. 0
                17 August 2022 21: 07
                Alas, I get information from the NMD zone only from the Internet and central television, so I don’t know the situation on drones.
                1. 0
                  17 August 2022 22: 02
                  There are two brains for a person to analyze (well, think).
                  If you look only at the DH, then you can already take land in California under the state program.
                  I won’t say about Ukraine that online first-hand, not those times, not Syria-2015. getting old
  19. -2
    3 August 2022 20: 17
    In less than three years laughing
  20. -1
    3 August 2022 20: 34
    Drones should enter service with each motorized rifle platoon, and then the squad. That is, at the same time, changes should be made in the regular structure of motorized rifle units. Each platoon on the BMP should be supplemented with an armored personnel carrier modeled on the BT-3F, on which the drone should be based and a high-resolution monitor and antenna should be installed. The same armored personnel carrier can accommodate a drone operator, an ATGM crew or an AGS crew, and a sniper with a commander.
    Otherwise, the produced drones will simply have nowhere to attach. It is organizational imperfections that in many respects hinder the equipping of drones. The existing regular structure of motorized rifle platoons and companies does not meet the requirements of the time and is too primitive.
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      1. 0
        10 August 2022 07: 54
        So there should also be an operator, and as part of the platoon, I would like to remind you, there is also a deputy platoon commander, this is all in case the commander is very busy. A tracked armored personnel carrier is also needed for the evacuation of troops from mines blown up and damaged infantry fighting vehicles.
        Such reasoning just explains the absence of drones in the troops, there is simply nowhere to stick them.
        1. -1
          10 August 2022 11: 08
          Well I do not know. It seems that at the battalion level it is enough. At the platoon level, once in battle, look at the display
          1. 0
            10 August 2022 11: 14
            And even a dedicated operator has no time? There are more complaints about the lack of drones than about being busy in combat.
            And in your posts, the dots above the letters slip due to the fact that you are from Ukraine?
            1. 0
              10 August 2022 23: 31
              No, don't be afraid, your own :) Although not Russian wink
              1. 0
                10 August 2022 23: 37
                In essence, the comments are rather someone else's than one's own, alas.
                1. 0
                  12 August 2022 01: 18
                  Who disagrees with you - a stranger? So write directly the enemy. Personal! ;) But not Russia, pls! wink
                  1. 0
                    12 August 2022 18: 50
                    To assert that there are enough drones at the battalion level, only the enemy, alas, "dill detected", can.
                    1. 0
                      12 August 2022 21: 49
                      Are you serious? What do your predilections have to do with the optimal organization of aerial reconnaissance by modern means? wink What do we share our opinions about?
                      1. -1
                        12 August 2022 22: 12
                        There is nowhere more serious. Even now there is a drone for the battalion. This is clearly not enough, and only your nobility is enough of this. I have no doubts about your work for the enemy.
                      2. -1
                        12 August 2022 22: 29
                        Well, I'm not an infantryman. I am an artilleryman. The UAV department in the division, in the reconnaissance platoon, is very handy. It will help other types of artillery reconnaissance. About the infantry, let the commanders of companies and platoons say how they will handle such a device during various types of combat activities, what tasks they will solve.
  21. -2
    3 August 2022 20: 38
    Well, finally moved on. Did you have to wait for the fighting to act? Really, the experience of Syria in 20 years did not teach, when the Turks used drones in Idlib and long-range MLRS to the fullest?
  22. -3
    3 August 2022 22: 43
    The figure of 90% of our components is alarming.
    We went through a similar thing with VAZ, when Khrey had 95% of its own, and now the car has been removed from the assembly line due to the lack of these same 5%.
    1. -2
      4 August 2022 07: 12
      most parts for drones are not produced in Russia and there is no chance to fix them, and those parts that are made are much inferior to Western models, for example, on that bayraktar, most of the parts are also imported
  23. -2
    3 August 2022 23: 40
    What prevented serious organizations like Almaz-Antey from doing this earlier, 30 years ago. And why did the Moscow Region sign agreements for the creation of UAVs with some insolvent and piper organizations. As a result, there are still no modern UAVs in the army. And we lag behind in the creation of drones even from Iran, a country that has been under sanctions and isolated for many years. For the depressing state of affairs in the field of UAVs, people in the leadership of the army and the military-industrial complex must be held accountable. And the country should know its "heroes".
  24. 0
    3 August 2022 23: 51
    and that GLONAS is not provided?
    on the "household" DJI, they use not only the usual GPS system, where the drone connects only to the satellite and there is a connection between them, but RTK (positioning system) - this system allows you to achieve centimeter positioning accuracy ...
    they are going to release yesterday again ...
    1. 0
      10 August 2022 00: 21
      The drone does not connect to the satellite, it only listens to it, only at the reception. And centimeter accuracy is not needed on the battlefield, a maximum of a meter.
  25. 0
    4 August 2022 07: 50
    Taiwan experts quickly refocused on UAV experts
  26. -1
    4 August 2022 07: 54
    And where did their UAV based on the Kalashnikov assault rifle disappear to .. ??

  27. +2
    4 August 2022 09: 29
    Again next year!!!! And this year they will carry papers to cover the ass of the military representative at the enterprise? Maybe it's worth temporarily canceling some GOSTs? What hinders development so much? Well, tell me, why is it taking so long to test a military drone? Why?! Doesn't correspond to the terms of reference?: Doesn't correspond to GOST? And a drone bought on Ali Express or from Iran means that it corresponds to both. Let me test any of the newest U.S. drones according to our state standards, and I'm sure that he will die on half of them. Why limit the purchase of imported microcircuits so much if it is almost impossible to buy domestic ones? Why does the army need a requirement to function at minus 60 degrees, if they are needed here and now and most of them will not survive until winter? Our bureaucrats with crazy demands, even in a war, will kill the country before the enemies do.
  28. 0
    4 August 2022 12: 46
    AUTO RU:

    —-“… The UAV has a speed of up to 120 km/h and is capable of covering a distance of up to 20 kilometers…”

    —-From here, with the help of clever arithmetic calculations (forget about the time to climb to a height of 3 km), it follows that the time in the air is an awkward 10 minutes. Or is it too simplistic?
    1. +1
      10 August 2022 00: 28
      120 km/h is for a few minutes, for the sake of it. Economical 40 km / h, time half an hour, mileage 20 km ordinary business.
  29. 0
    4 August 2022 14: 29
    Better late..
  30. +1
    4 August 2022 14: 31
    Lavrenty Pavlovich is not on them ... in a month it would be in the troops ..
  31. 0
    4 August 2022 15: 38
    The fried ostrich caught up with the same ... Only he didn’t give a solid kick yet. Otherwise, they would begin to revive the scientific school, and it would not hurt to carry out a new industrialization. Lots of things to start over.
  32. 0
    4 August 2022 15: 47
    If Almaz-Antey turns to the right place, they will have everything already yesterday.
    Of course, let the Mavik-mini construct its own association, so long as it does not cry.
    And at this stage, a high-quality flashing is enough.
    The state approach would give mass character.

    About the reason https://t.me/lobaev_vlad/4396