The mayor of Riga announced that the monument to the liberators of the city from the Nazi invaders will be demolished and completely disposed of

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The Riga City Council has made the final decision on the fate of the main monument dedicated to the liberation of the Latvian capital and the whole of Latvia from Nazi invaders. Recall that we are talking about a monument to which thousands of Rigans and guests of the city annually bring flowers on memorable dates and military holidays, including Victory Day, paying tribute to the memory of the soldiers-liberators. In this regard, the Nazi authorities of modern Latvia feel extremely uncomfortable both next to the monument and next to those who do not forget the feat of the liberators of the republic from Nazism.

The mayor of Riga, Martins Stakis, said today on the air of one of the local TV channels that the monument to the liberators of Riga will be demolished and then completely destroyed.

Stakis:

We will demolish the entire monument, and in parts. And since the occupation museum did not recognize any of the parts as having artistic value, the monument will be disposed of after dismantling.

This statement was made by the mayor of the Latvian capital after the Latvian parliament approved the decision to demolish the monument to the liberators.

With these decisions, the authorities of modern Latvia are talking about only one thing: the actual denial of the results of the Second World War. Accordingly, Latvia is under the frank oppression of the regime, which de facto rehabilitates Nazism.
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  1. +26
    3 August 2022 17: 04
    This means that after the denazification of Ukraine, Latvia should be disposed of, and along with the other two Baltic tigers.
    1. -17
      3 August 2022 17: 05
      There are NATO countries, this is fraught with consequences.
      1. +13
        3 August 2022 17: 09
        But from this desire to fry well for some reason does not become less. And so we wait. Everything in the world flows, everything changes. Humanity has not had a single eternal union, and I doubt that it will. The window of opportunity will appear sooner or later. Let's just live with you...
        1. +1
          3 August 2022 22: 45
          The time will come - and all the members of this city council and the mayor of Riga, who made this political decision of neo-Nazi content to demolish and dispose of the monument to the liberators of the city from the Nazi invaders, will be caught, arrested, convicted and disposed of by the people's power of the majority, and not the minority of the Latvian people. And Russia will help them in this denazification! I'll waste my time!
          1. 0
            4 August 2022 06: 10
            I support, like Israel, without a statute of limitations, anywhere in the world the fascists must be convicted and the sentence carried out, summon them to court in Russia, condemn them as accomplices of fascism, announce a reward for accomplices
      2. -1
        3 August 2022 17: 31
        Quote: Hoarfrost
        There are NATO countries

        NATO will disappear. This is fraught with: there will be an empty space, a vacuum.
        1. -3
          3 August 2022 17: 36
          I agree,
          NATO will be blown away by the wind after Reds will come to power in the Baltics
          at least 50% of the Baltic population is only "FOR"
          already got exorbitant prices for EVERYTHING, for gas, for light, gasoline
          in general, no social programs are free as in Russia
      3. +2
        3 August 2022 17: 47
        Quote: Hoarfrost
        There are NATO countries, this is fraught with consequences.

        They don't blather.
        Day, two - Latvia is ours.
        Labuses are slowly beginning to understand this. It's in their metal. Lethargy.
        Let's restore the monument.
        Let's restore Russian dominance in the Baltic.
        A little bit later... am
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      5. +1
        3 August 2022 17: 52
        Quote: Hoarfrost
        There are NATO countries, this is fraught with consequences.

        They don’t bother that Russia is nearby. So don’t care
      6. -2
        3 August 2022 21: 38
        Of course, it is fraught with consequences ... for NATO!
      7. -2
        3 August 2022 23: 42
        Quote: Hoarfrost
        There are NATO countries, this is fraught with consequences.

        NATO will fall apart and take it without consequences.
      8. 0
        4 August 2022 12: 45
        Don't be scared! And we are the army!
    2. -2
      3 August 2022 17: 35
      Yeah, he ran away, God forbid, finally deal with the Square.
    3. -3
      3 August 2022 17: 54
      sorry, but you are finished with .... k, the idea did not enter your mosquito mind that hundreds of thousands of Russians and Russian-speaking people live in the Baltic states, who not only are citizens of Russia but also always support Russia, for your stupid information in Estonia, Estonians risk their they are campaigning and holding actions against the demolition of WWII monuments, an example of this is the demolition of the T-34 near Narva, are people to blame for the fact that stupid people are in power?
      1. +4
        3 August 2022 18: 01
        It must be assumed that Russia appoints irrepressible people to power? Or do they elect them themselves?
    4. +7
      3 August 2022 18: 00
      Quote: Metallurg_2
      Latvia should be recycled

      It seems to me that we should be more calm about this, because we are not their friends, and we did not free them from fascism, but enslaved them - so they think - God will judge them. On the other hand, it is not clear to me why, for example, the Polish memorial "Katyn" is on our soil - the Poles are by no means our friends, all kinds of memorial cemeteries are German, Hungarian, Italian and others. According to the rules, the cemetery is demolished after 50 years from the last burial - our land must be cleared of what we do not need.
      1. +4
        3 August 2022 18: 20
        Quote: pyagomail.ru
        and enslaved - so they think - God is their judge.

        This is what the smelly Nazis think - the descendants of the unfinished fascist henchmen who were lucky to fade away with their owners at one time.
        So think the miserable individuals who are attached there as bosses on a business trip with German, American and Canadian passports.
        And then there are three hundred thousand people who annually came to this monument on May 9 with flowers. This is almost a fifth of the population. They were banned, the children were filmed and circulars were sent to schools so that the work could be done. And they still went. Someone asked them what they think?
        By Katyn. Russians don't fight the dead. Even if sometime someone in an alcoholic stupor decided to give an awkward, historically questionable curtsy to puffy lords.
        To fight with monuments is the destiny of the inferior.
        1. +5
          3 August 2022 18: 41
          That's right, my son annually on May 9 goes to the Tallinn military cemetery with flowers, and so will my grandson, because we are Slavs and honor the memory of the feat of our grandfathers, and we will survive the Natsyks, their life is shitty and they live in shit ....
        2. +1
          3 August 2022 18: 55
          Quote: Moore
          To fight with monuments is the destiny of the inferior.

          I agree with almost everything, but on Katyn: why do we need this memorial? For us, our children and grandchildren to come there and repent? It is important for the Poles - let them take it away and place it at home. The same goes for other memorials.
          Quote: Moore
          And then there are three hundred thousand people who annually came to this monument on May 9 with flowers. This is almost a fifth of the population.
          Yes, but this is an internal affair of their country - Should we send in troops? Poles, Czechs are destroying monuments to our soldiers - these are the people, remember.
          1. +2
            3 August 2022 21: 04
            there is no need to be like ghouls, if we demolish the graves in Katyn, we will become like them, I will tell you that we have painted a monument to the Afghans, although there are more than half of the Estonian guys, who did it? Ghouls, ghouls in power, ghouls who even hate their own .... but we live and will live, for God and truth are with us .....
            1. 0
              4 August 2022 14: 45
              Quote from: alexandre
              no need to be like ghouls, if we demolish the graves in Katyn, we will become the same as they are,

              Well, why so abruptly? The Nazis on our land during the war killed the Poles - neither one nor the other are our friends. It is polite to offer the Poles to pick up the remains and clear the land - why are there other people's graves on our land, and enemies at that?
  2. -1
    3 August 2022 17: 05
    Separation without sorrow is the elimination of the Tribalts.
    By 2050... optimistic?
  3. +1
    3 August 2022 17: 06
    And the companies affiliated with the city leadership will be engaged in recycling ...
  4. 0
    3 August 2022 17: 08
    With these decisions, the authorities of modern Latvia are talking about only one thing: the actual denial of the results of the Second World War.
    About the denial of the results, they say not only in Latvia and not today, but since yesterday.
  5. +2
    3 August 2022 17: 12
    And why can't we pick it up and transport it, for example, to the Donbass?
    1. +2
      3 August 2022 17: 18
      I also wanted to write, buy it out and take it to the Russian Federation, DPR or LPR
      1. Aag
        +2
        3 August 2022 17: 43
        Quote from Tiger_Kam
        I also wanted to write, buy it out and take it to the Russian Federation, DPR or LPR

        Sorry - I was a little jarred (not your fault), I personally (as part of
        part of the l / s RVVPKU) took part in the construction of this complex, a memorial ...
        ...I mean, they - the "new authorities" of Latvia, one way or another - will pay for this. Of course, I would like the curators to answer first of all ... Otherwise, Moldova is already "excited" .. So far, in defense of LGBT. Everything is on the knurled ... hi
    2. +3
      3 August 2022 17: 26
      Quote: Igor Borisov_2
      And why can't we pick it up and transport it, for example, to the Donbass?

      Yes, these .... out of spite, the monument will be defiled and destroyed. Just like in the memory, the monument and the grave of the intelligence officer Kuznetsov were destroyed. But long before that, they asked them to give the ashes of the hero. And what about the monument and grave of General Vatutin in Kyiv? They don't give up either. Now I don't even know if it's worth it.
    3. +1
      3 August 2022 17: 41
      Quote: Igor Borisov_2
      And why can't we pick it up and transport it, for example, to the Donbass?

      So they don’t give it back ... There was a request from our side.
  6. +7
    3 August 2022 17: 13
    The mayor of Riga, Mārtiņš Stakis, announced that the monument to the liberators of Riga would be demolished and then completely destroyed.

    You are the mayor Monkey Stasik, before destroying, do not forget to take measurements from the monument, otherwise it will be difficult for you and the company to restore it from memory.
    1. +2
      3 August 2022 17: 23
      Right! Only you don’t need to take measurements from the monkey itself, it may just be minced meat .....
      1. +3
        3 August 2022 19: 42
        Quote: Alien From
        Right! Only you don’t need to take measurements from the monkey itself, it may just be minced meat .....

        The less political weight, the more noise and stink and the more disgusting the deeds.
  7. +5
    3 August 2022 17: 16
    Latvia, too, will be completely demolished in due time, and since it does not represent any - neither artistic nor historical value - it will be disposed of ....
    1. -1
      3 August 2022 17: 53
      Nobody will demolish Latvia. The following will happen to Latvia:
      - the population of Latvia in 1991 was 2,668 million people.
      - the population of Latvia in 2022 is 1 million people.
      - the population of Latvia in 2060 ---------------???
    2. Aag
      -2
      3 August 2022 17: 55
      Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
      Latvia, too, will be completely demolished in due time, and since it does not represent any - neither artistic nor historical value - it will be disposed of ....

      Do you know a lot about the "artistic, historical" "values ​​of Latvia? It seems that you don't.
      Just, please, do not rush theses!
      Not a great connoisseur of history - but it seems that you are not interested in this at all ...
      Wishes: 1) Please think about why Peter the 1st had a different opinion.; 2) Try to find out how many museums (and what level) exist (existed), say, in Riga ... 3) Do not believe the slogans of some that ALL those who wanted to leave this madhouse left long ago - there are still enough pro-Russians ( only they are in an unenviable position ... and not th fault ...). hi
      1. +2
        3 August 2022 18: 25
        Do you know a lot about the "artistic, historical" "values ​​of Latvia? It seems that you don't.
        Just, please, do not rush theses!
        Not a great connoisseur of history - but it seems that you are not interested in this at all ...
        Wishes: 1) Please think about why Peter the 1st had a different opinion.; 2) Try to find out how many museums (and what level) exist (existed), say, in Riga ... 3) Do not believe the slogans of some that ALL those who wanted to leave this madhouse left long ago - there are still enough pro-Russians ( only they are in an unenviable position ... and not th fault ...).

        And what, did Peter 1 know such a word: "Latvia"?
        hi
        1. Aag
          -2
          3 August 2022 19: 03
          Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
          Do you know a lot about the "artistic, historical" "values ​​of Latvia? It seems that you don't.
          Just, please, do not rush theses!
          Not a great connoisseur of history - but it seems that you are not interested in this at all ...
          Wishes: 1) Please think about why Peter the 1st had a different opinion.; 2) Try to find out how many museums (and what level) exist (existed), say, in Riga ... 3) Do not believe the slogans of some that ALL those who wanted to leave this madhouse left long ago - there are still enough pro-Russians ( only they are in an unenviable position ... and not th fault ...).

          And what, did Peter 1 know such a word: "Latvia"?
          hi

          Do not cling to words, please, - not beautiful, not well-reasoned ...
          There were a lot of forces and means... By previous generations. You should not "dispose" of the achievements, conquests of the Russian Federation so easily ... hi
          1. 0
            3 August 2022 19: 10
            Do not cling to words, please, - not beautiful, not well-reasoned ...
            There were a lot of forces and means... By previous generations. You should not so easily "dispose" of the achievements, conquests of the Russian Federation

            Yes, I'm not very good at "pouring water" ...

            What do you want to say in essence - at least about the times of Peter 1, at least - about the present?
            hi
            1. Aag
              0
              3 August 2022 23: 21
              Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
              Do not cling to words, please, - not beautiful, not well-reasoned ...
              There were a lot of forces and means... By previous generations. You should not so easily "dispose" of the achievements, conquests of the Russian Federation

              Yes, I'm not very good at "pouring water" ...

              What do you want to say in essence - at least about the times of Peter 1, at least - about the present?
              hi

              Yes, as already said...
              It was necessary to be more attentive to opponents, in due time !!!
              And then they sent all the "unjustified trust" of the governors as representatives (whom, what,) to the former allied ...
              In fact: Peter the Great, understanding the significance of the Baltic, both fought and bought ....
              I think that my classmates who are forced to live in Latvia could give you more reasoned answers ... Only their topwar is blocked ...
              1. 0
                4 August 2022 00: 07
                In fact: Peter the Great, understanding the significance of the Baltic, both fought and bought ....

                And how does this contradict my original thesis?
                1. Aag
                  0
                  4 August 2022 06: 07
                  Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
                  In fact: Peter the Great, understanding the significance of the Baltic, both fought and bought ....

                  And how does this contradict my original thesis?

                  "...AAG
                  Yesterday, 17: 55

                  -1
                  Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
                  Latvia will also be completely demolished in due time, and since it does not represent any - neither artistic nor historical value - it will be disposed of .... "
                  "Demolished" ..., "Used" ... And further on in the text ...
                  1. 0
                    4 August 2022 10: 23
                    So Peter did: Can you report something about statehood Latvia in his time??
                    Or do you think that we are talking about demolishing the Khrushchevs in Daugavpils or blowing up the German Dome Cathedral?
                    1. Aag
                      0
                      4 August 2022 11: 04
                      Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
                      So Peter did: Can you report something about statehood Latvia in his time??
                      Or do you think that we are talking about demolishing the Khrushchevs in Daugavpils or blowing up the German Dome Cathedral?

                      )))... I think it will be enough to free the residence of the President of Latvia (the former Palace of Pioneers) from pro-American, pro-fascist creatures.
                      ... Otherwise, some zealous commentators may take your words literally, and as a guide to action ...
                      1. 0
                        4 August 2022 11: 09
                        Russia has never objected to the statehood of Latvia, but Latvia is friendly, allied, in extreme cases - neutral ...
                        Hostile Latvia is a threat to Russia...
                        This was understood by Alexander Nevsky, and Dovmont, and Ivan the Terrible, and Peter 1, and Lenin, and Stalin ...
                        Как nation state Latvia has neither historical nor artistic value, and therefore, without loss to mankind, it can be decomposed if it continues its current policy...
                      2. Aag
                        0
                        4 August 2022 11: 20
                        Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
                        Russia has never objected to the statehood of Latvia, but Latvia is friendly, allied, in extreme cases - neutral ...
                        Hostile Latvia is a threat to Russia...
                        This was understood by Alexander Nevsky, and Dovmont, and Ivan the Terrible, and Peter 1, and Lenin, and Stalin ...
                        Как nation state Latvia has neither historical nor artistic value, and therefore, without loss to mankind, it can be decomposed if it continues its current policy...

                        In this formulation, I agree with you completely. hi
    3. -1
      3 August 2022 17: 58
      Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
      Latvia, too, will be completely demolished in due time, and since it does not represent any - neither artistic nor historical value - it will be disposed of ....

      And the monkeys will go to the experiments, even if they were mayors
  8. +6
    3 August 2022 17: 17
    But 12 Latvians became Heroes of the USSR ...
    He who has forgotten the past has no future; one does not have to look far for an example.
  9. -1
    3 August 2022 17: 17
    I have no words. This is complete humiliation. If there is no response...
  10. +1
    3 August 2022 17: 20
    I hope that troubled times will someday pass and our children and grandchildren will remember everything for them ...
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  12. +1
    3 August 2022 17: 29
    that's how they instantly oskotinilis before Nazism at the beginning of the last century ("air of freedom" is clearly contraindicated in the Baltics), and now they are following the same path!
    Just like 100 years ago, local Fuhrers were instantly found.
    1. Aag
      +4
      3 August 2022 18: 23
      Quote: DIM (a)
      that's how they instantly oskotinilis before Nazism at the beginning of the last century ("air of freedom" is clearly contraindicated in the Baltics), and now they are following the same path!
      Just like 100 years ago, local Fuhrers were instantly found.

      Quote: DIM (a)
      that's how they instantly oskotinilis before Nazism at the beginning of the last century ("air of freedom" is clearly contraindicated in the Baltics), and now they are following the same path!
      Just like 100 years ago, local Fuhrers were instantly found.

      I agree. Very fast.
      On the other hand, three decades have passed (!).
      With all the excesses, Stalin in 30 years, in spite of everything, brought the country to ... an unprecedented level.
      And what about the last 30 years? Well, if you turn off the TV. And if you turn on the brains ... - then you want to not have them at all.
      Discord is especially annoying even among TV "analysts". (Pevtsuny, other rubbish of mention, perhaps, is not worth mentioning. If only within the framework of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. ... Although, no (!), - it is high time to crush these parasites. (That is why R. Pauls did not have time to disgrace anywhere, but , a cabaret dancer of the foreign tourist hotel in Riga "Latvija", caressed by the faded Ernst L. Vaikule, ... bends (habit?) ... hi
      1. +2
        3 August 2022 18: 36
        in 30 years we have had one achievement ... the 90s ended, well, some construction began, but again, within the framework of the needs of capital, and not the country (
        And about the Baltic states in the period 1917-1935 - this is a sad song ... (
    2. 0
      3 August 2022 19: 11
      Quote: DIM (a)
      Just like 100 years ago, local Fuhrers were instantly found.
      And, exactly like 100 years ago, they have two troubles: Russia in the neighborhood, and pediculosis in life.
  13. +3
    3 August 2022 17: 32
    In September 2011, a monument to Latvians - victims of political repressions - was opened and consecrated in Tomsk.
    Maybe change?





    1. 0
      3 August 2022 17: 45
      here the question arises, but these "victims of political repressions" are definitely not the same fascists who are now demolishing the monument in Riga? the fascists in Riga are haunted by the monument to the Soviet wars of the liberators, then why do we need a monument to the liquidated fascists in Tomsk? and why the Russian Orthodox Church illuminates the monument to the Nazis?
      1. -1
        3 August 2022 17: 50
        Quote: SanichSan
        why do we need a monument to the liquidated fascists in Tomsk? and why the ROC illuminates the monument to the Nazis?

        Radical and unfair statement of the question.
        What makes you think that this is a monument to the Nazis?
        1. +2
          3 August 2022 19: 03
          Quote: Flood
          Radical and unfair statement of the question.

          why? because you ignored my first question?
          Quote: SanichSan
          here the question arises, but these "victims of political repressions" are definitely not the same fascists who are now demolishing the monument in Riga?

          do not distort wink
          Quote: Flood
          What makes you think that this is a monument to the Nazis?

          and where did you get the idea that these were not ordinary fascists? Do you think it's not worth looking into? Are you afraid that if you dig, it will turn out that the Bolsheviks repressed them too humanely? Here comes the "innocent Latvian" about whom Dud howled, in fact, turned out to be a marauder, a murderer and thus a fascist from the "forest brothers".
          now you answer, why did you decide that the rest are different?
          1. -2
            3 August 2022 19: 11
            Quote: SanichSan
            why? because you ignored my first question?

            Because by asking a question to which neither you nor I have an answer, you immediately went on to assert that it is so.
            Completely unsubstantiated.

            Quote: SanichSan
            what makes you think that these were not ordinary fascists?

            I don't take anything from anything.
            I do not undertake to assert anything without having supporting information.
            Especially when it comes to serious allegations.

            Quote: SanichSan
            now you answer, why did you decide that the rest are different?

            Answered above.
            I'm not used to dogging people at random and at random.
            1. 0
              3 August 2022 19: 50
              Quote: Flood
              I'm not used to dogging people at random and at random.

              and bandits and murderers in the "innocent" to write down means they are used to? wink
              I gave you at least one example. what could you say in response? that they are all innocent? to whom is the monument? like this, in an attempt to lick the west and repent, they erected monuments to all sorts of "innocent" Latvians and manners. Mannerheim was quickly cleaned out, and the rest of the rot needs to be cleaned out. soldier
              1. 0
                3 August 2022 20: 12
                Quote: SanichSan
                bandits and murderers in the "innocent" to write down means used to?

                Do you see the coast?
                If you want to continue the discussion, lower your tone, dear man.
                I gave you no reason to communicate with me either in such a tone or in such completely unacceptable phrases.

                Quote: SanichSan
                I gave you at least one example

                Sorry, I don't watch Dudya.
                Don't know what you're talking about.

                Quote: SanichSan
                what could you say in response? that they are all innocent?

                Lie in the most brazen way.
                I wrote that before accusing anyone of fascism, you need to figure it out.
                And you are throwing mud with wide swoops, not caring about justice.

                And yes, you are slandering me.
                1. 0
                  3 August 2022 21: 07
                  Quote: Flood
                  I wrote that before accusing anyone of fascism, you need to figure it out.

                  read my first post. I started with the fact that you need to figure out who it is. the fact that they are definitely not innocent has already been proved by the Soviet court. there are no clear grounds for asserting their innocence. not at all. a monument to bandits and murderers, if they were not members of the Nazi organization, in your opinion, is this normal? none of them were definitely members of nationalist organizations? are you sure?
                  nationalism flourished throughout Europe and in the Russian Empire in full bloom even before the revolution. and also in the USA.
                  so it's not me who smears everyone with brown, it's you who are trying to write down all the rubbish in the innocent.
                  by the way, why? what
                  1. 0
                    3 August 2022 21: 44
                    Quote: SanichSan
                    I started with the fact that you need to figure out who it is

                    And in the same comment, they immediately wrote down everyone as fascists.
                    It didn't take long for you to figure it out.

                    Quote: SanichSan
                    so it's not me who smears everyone with brown, it's you who are trying to write down all the rubbish in the innocent

                    I warned you that I would not tolerate slander against me.
                    What did you not understand in what you wrote?
                    If cultural discussion is not for you, then I highly recommend finding another target for your clumsy deceitful attacks.

                    No need to test my patience.
      2. +1
        3 August 2022 18: 54
        Quote: SanichSan
        here the question arises, but these "victims of political repressions" are definitely not the same fascists who are now demolishing the monument in Riga?

        Or the Red Latvians - the same ones who had previously carried out these same repressions.
        Just this time Cristobal Hosevich managed to do it earlier ©.
    2. +2
      3 August 2022 17: 49
      Memorial cross to citizens of Latvia - victims of communist terror

      RUSSIA, Kirov region, pos. Lesnoy, Verkhnekamsky district

      -----

      Monument to the Latvians - prisoners of the Inta camps

      RUSSIA, Komi, Inta
      settlement Vostochny, city cemetery

      -----

      Memorial cross to the citizens of Latvia who died in Usollag

      RUSSIA, Perm region, Solikamsk
      district Borovsk (former city), cemetery

      -----

      Monument to Latvians executed in 1937-1938

      RUSSIA, St. Petersburg
      Art. Levashovo, Gorskoe shosse, 135, Levashovskoye memorial cemetery

      -----

      Monument to Latvians who were deported from Latvia and died in exile on the territory of the Kargasok region

      RUSSIA, Tomsk region, p. Novoyugino Kargasoksky district
      in the center of the village, next to the memorial to those who died during the Second World War and the Memorial Cross of the Forgiveness and Memory project

      -----

      Taken from here
      https://www.sakharov-center.ru/asfcd/pam/?t=list&c=Russia&id_c=1

      No, I do not call to fight with the monuments.
      Especially when it comes to innocent victims.
      But in my opinion, the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation has something to discuss with the Latvian colleagues.
      1. +1
        3 August 2022 19: 16
        Quote: Flood
        No, I do not call to fight with the monuments.

        Why not? I understand that we have a lot of these European freaks in our land, but there are military cemeteries for this. why do we have monuments to those who fought with us and killed our ancestors? those who are in the city of Inta, are they just caught in the camps. maybe we’ll put a monument to Chikatilo and Hitler?
        in Riga, the descendants of those with whom the Red Army fought are demolishing monuments to the wars of the Red Army. it is logical and understandable. that we are making monuments to our enemies is completely incomprehensible. request
        1. +1
          3 August 2022 19: 24
          Quote: SanichSan
          Why not?

          They fought enough with monuments and memory in the 20th century.
          If these monuments are erected in the memory of innocent people, then there is nothing to touch them.

          Quote: SanichSan
          why do we have monuments to those who fought with us and killed our ancestors?

          Empty words.
          These are monuments to the Latvian fascists?
          You do not know.
          So do not make waves in the basin.
          Understand the issue first.
          As Skomorokhov did in articles about the monument to the Italian invaders.

          Quote: SanichSan
          maybe we’ll put a monument to Chikatilo and Hitler?

          I have already written.
          You are a man of extremes.
          You do not recognize the middle.
          You should draw up hit lists.
          1. 0
            3 August 2022 19: 40
            Quote: Flood
            If these monuments are erected in the memory of innocent people, then there is nothing to touch them.

            I ask you, why did you decide that innocent? they just didn't get into the camps.
            Quote: Flood
            These are monuments to the Latvian fascists?
            You do not know.

            I know. I gave you at least 1 example:
            Quote: SanichSan
            Here comes the "innocent Latvian" about whom Dud howled, in fact, turned out to be a marauder, a murderer and thus a fascist from the "forest brothers".

            you want to say that everyone else is exactly different? on what basis do you think so?
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              3 August 2022 20: 06
              Quote: SanichSan
              I ask you, why did you decide that innocent?

              You proceed from a dangerous message: if you got into the camp, then the Nazis.
              Meanwhile, this logic requires acknowledging that all the Latvians who visited the camps were fascists.

              This is not so, if only because some of them were repressed before the Great Patriotic War (which is directly indicated in my commentary with a list of these places).

              Because the installation of monuments is coordinated with the local administration.
              Which, of course, does not give a full guarantee (a recent example from the Voronezh region).

              But nevertheless, a reasonable person will be forced to think before indiscriminately smearing everyone with brown paint.

              Quote: SanichSan
              I know

              Well, if you know, then tell us the names of those Latvians in whose memory these crosses were placed.

              Quote: SanichSan
              you want to say that everyone else is exactly different? on what basis do you think so?

              Read above.
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                3 August 2022 20: 41
                Quote: Flood
                You proceed from a dangerous message: if you got into the camp, then the Nazis.
                Meanwhile, this logic requires acknowledging that all the Latvians who visited the camps were fascists.

                no, this logic calls to figure out who the monument is. every time when they begin to deal with another "innocent" victim of repression, it turns out that the victim is not at all innocent, and sometimes the mildness of the sentence is surprising.
                Quote: Flood
                This is not so, if only because some of them were repressed before the Great Patriotic War (which is directly indicated in my comment with a list of these places).

                umm... you want to say that there were no fascists before the war? belay like they suddenly appeared at 41, and before that everything was normal?
                Quote: Flood
                Because the installation of monuments is coordinated with the local administration.
                Which, of course, does not give a full guarantee (a recent example from the Voronezh region).

                is this an indication of what? the installation of the board to Mannerheim was also agreed. stopped the public, which is just like me, decided to figure it out.
                Quote: Flood
                But nevertheless, a reasonable person will be forced to think before indiscriminately smearing everyone with brown paint.

                do you prefer to wash through the brown and up to their ears with blood drenched in blood and sculpt innocent ones from them? and someone will definitely drip and ask, "and who are you fighting there in Ukraine when you have fascists in full growth in Russia and there are monuments to them?" Or is this the idea? bully
                Quote: Flood
                Well, if you know, then tell us the names of those Latvians in whose memory these crosses were placed.

                stop stop stop stop you trumpeted about the innocent here, and I gave you an example of the fact that it’s quite bandits and fascists. in response, I asked you to give an example of an innocent victim of the regime of Latvian origin. could you? no. but they demanded lists of names. You call them innocent, don't you? here and prove it! their guilt has already been proved by the Soviet court. Yes Are you going to be their lawyer? so go ahead. surname, case, article on which he sat down or was shot and your arguments for why he is not guilty.
                I just beg you, it's not necessary here about rehabilitation. everyone remembers how they rehabilitated the lists of everyone in a row, without even reading the files. there, and Bandera rehabilitated. now disentangle.
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                  3 August 2022 21: 40
                  Quote: SanichSan
                  you trumpeted about the innocent

                  Lie without ceasing.
                  Where exactly did I state that these are monuments to the innocent?
                  For the umpteenth time I repeat that for any statements you need to have evidence.
                  And in the absence of such, I did not assert anything.
                  Aren't you tired of shaking?

                  Quote: SanichSan
                  but they demanded name lists

                  When you wrote that you know that these are monuments to Latvian fascists.
                  I have no time to waste time on a talker.
  14. VVK
    +4
    3 August 2022 17: 34
    The price of this solution must be very high for Latvia! I think Vladimir Vladimirovich will provide it!
  15. +4
    3 August 2022 17: 43
    Nazi bedding .. I have no more words!
  16. +7
    3 August 2022 17: 52
    We will demolish the entire monument, and in parts. And since the occupation museum did not recognize any of the parts as having artistic value, the monument will be disposed of after dismantling.

    Although I am not a museum of the occupation, I responsibly declare that, according to the results of my examination, the mayor of Riga, Mārtiņš Stakis, has absolutely no artistic value. And, as such, it is clearly subject to disposal ... in parts. Yes
  17. 0
    3 August 2022 18: 46
    I’m waiting for our people, after returning, to demolish the monument to the green woman, which NATO soldiers love to pee on so much. Otherwise, the Soviet government was too kind to these animals, and even restored the monument to the woman.
  18. 0
    3 August 2022 19: 05
    This mayor of Riga understands that even during his insignificant life, there will be a demolition and complete utilization of Latvia as an independent state? If he is lucky and after that they forget to hang him, then in his old age he will look through the cloudy glasses of a wine-glass at the street, where on May 9 columns of young Rigans with St. George ribbons and Russian tricolors will go.
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  19. 0
    3 August 2022 19: 17
    Quote: "The Mayor of Riga announced that the monument to the liberators of the city from the Nazi invaders will be demolished and completely disposed of"
    I think I can promise that Riga will not be demolished, but it would be nice for the mayor to prepare for a complete disposal.
  20. -1
    3 August 2022 19: 18
    Surnames, first names, appearances and passwords become known from the very first use of a rectal cryptanalyzer, in common parlance, a soldering iron. The ghost of the NKVD looms on the horizon, gentlemen of the Balts, wait ...
  21. the monument will be disposed of after dismantling.
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    The Baltic extinctions in their repertoire want to hand over the monument for scrap metal, a familiar business.
  22. 0
    3 August 2022 20: 22
    Baltic nits, what else can I say
  23. 0
    3 August 2022 21: 18
    And the mayor of Riga to demolish and dispose of?
  24. -1
    3 August 2022 22: 46
    This is the whole point of the Balts. They have never been independent. Now they are just dizzy from not knowing what to do with this freedom.
  25. 0
    4 August 2022 01: 13
    There are no words, stupidity.
  26. 0
    4 August 2022 07: 32
    "... the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His Angels, and then He will reward everyone according to his deeds ..." / Gospel of Matthew (chapter 16) /
  27. 0
    4 August 2022 07: 43
    But this is not a monument to Russian soldiers who died for the liberation of Riga, in order to annoy Russia through its demolition!
    This is a monument to soldiers, among whom were people of dozens of nationalities, including Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians, and so on. This power, the corrupt pro-American administration of Riga, is a branch of Lucifer in Latvia.
  28. 0
    5 August 2022 15: 08
    Or maybe the Riga City Hall is disposed of as having no value.
  29. 0
    5 August 2022 15: 13
    Nursing Latvian Nazis rule. Oh, how much crap got out thanks to the striped ones.