Pelosi flew away, Taiwan remained: The plane with the delegation of the speaker on board left Taipei

The Speaker of the US House of Representatives has completed her visit to Taiwan. It is reported that the Boeing C-40C with Pelosi and her delegation on board left the Taipei airport and is heading to South Korea.

Recall that the American politician went on a tour of the Asia-Pacific region. Pelosi plans to visit several US allies at once.

Regarding the previously announced meeting with the Taiwan authorities, the politician kept the intrigue to the last, heating up the military-political situation around the island.

The thing is that in Beijing there was a categorical protest against the visit of the American delegation to Taiwan, which China considers its province. The Chinese authorities announced the threat of violating the sovereignty of their country and promised an appropriate response, including military measures.

However, the plane of the Speaker of the US House of Representatives yesterday, August 2, landed unhindered at the Taipei airport. Beijing has so far responded to the violation of its sovereignty with diplomatic statements, conducting exercises around Taiwan (apparently, a show of force) and minor economic restrictions on Taipei: a ban on the export of sand, two varieties of fish and some fruits.

At the same time, many analysts believe that China will not leave the American "provocation" unanswered. Tomorrow, August 4, PLA exercises around the perimeter of Taiwan will start. Experts say that in this way China can arrange a blockade of the island.

In addition, an operation to return Taiwan to China is not excluded. Moreover, the authorities of the Middle Kingdom call this process "historical inevitability."

As for Pelosi's flight, according to the Flightradar24 website, it is located near the Japanese island of Okinawa (at the time of writing) and, judging by everyone, as it was stated, it is heading to South Korea. The board overcame zones with limited air traffic due to the PLA exercises. According to other sources, China has not restricted the movement of aircraft near Taiwan to date.

As a result, Pelosi flew away, Taiwan remained. What is called, one on one with China.

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[Tim]

China in sorrow

[bandabas]

The vein is thin. And global connections in business with the States.

[Tatyana]

Well? Still, this old Gagool provocateur Pelesi flew out from Taiwan!
Who would doubt it, since she flew there!

This insane evil PR old brawler Pelosi from the Democratic Party in the USA has already won her upcoming elections on November 8, 2022 for US Senators!
And there will be more to come!

So China can't relax!

[Alex777]

Quote: Tatiana

This insane evil PR old brawler Pelosi from the Democratic Party in the USA has already won her upcoming elections on November 8, 2022 for US Senators!

If he survives. At her age, and with her worries...

[Tatyana]

Quote: Alex777

Quote: Tatiana

This insane evil PR old brawler Pelosi from the Democratic Party in the USA has already won her upcoming elections on November 8, 2022 for US Senators!

If he survives. At her age, yes, with her worries ...

Pelosi will live - and many more will spoil the blood and send himself to the other world before!

Energy vampires like Pelosi have a large margin of vitality, especially on their take-off and career successes in politics - by pumping energy from other people!
These people live a very long time!
So Pelosi will again smoke the ceiling in the US Congress with hatred for his enemies on behalf of the American Democrats!

Let's remember for example.
Two years ago, US President Donald Trump delivered his State of the Union address to Congress on February 4. Before the speech, Trump refused to shake hands with the speaker of the House of Representatives, vampire brawler Nancy Pelosi, for her provocative attitude towards him.
In response, she defiantly tore up the text of his speech in front of everyone present.
So where is Trump now - and where is Pelosi?!

I know such women. They will drink energy from whomever they want, and outlive whoever they want!

[Taimen]

The dog barked, the caravan passed. There was a lot of screeching, there was little sense.

[dmi.pris1]

Why in sadness? Have you taken Formosa with you?

[Flooding]

What is the probability that Pelosi has gone or will fly on the other side?
The lady, of course, is not one of the faint of heart.
But the risk is not small either.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Tima

China in sorrow

China was simply pointed to its place

[Taimen]

Which turned out to be near, to put it mildly, the toilet.

[Svarog]

China is very predictable .. they are pragmatists and will not seriously quarrel with the United States.
and in general 1001 warnings from time immemorial their style .. they are not war merchants. They will sit and wait until the US corpse floats by .. or by proxy ..

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

can't wait

[marchcat]

It will be a shame for the Chinese that even the corpse will not float, and they will remain forever and will sit in the place where they sit. "Have fun" the whole world and that's enough ...

[alystan]

Why? It's just that the old hag was allowed to visit China again, only on the island this time. After all, Pelosi has a long-standing "love" for China, because she already provoked the Chinese 31 years ago on Tiananmen Square.
(https://rutube.ru/e88c4ac1-a2bd-4ad9-b547-161b4c5c4dc4)

[alystan]

Update:
A mistake has crept in, which I have only just discovered - Pelosi appeared on camera in Tiananmen Square in 1989, and not in 1991. It looks like she still won’t calm down and wants to complete the work she started then to change the “objectionable” regime (not a good word) in China.

And yes, here's the YouTube video.



By the way, exactly the same attempts were made in 1989 in support of youth protests in China and Gorbachev, who urged not to use force and listen to the opinion of the protesters...

[Mouse]

She flew away .... did she promise to return?

[navigator777]

Pelosi flew away, but the Chinese sanctions remained.

[Pilot]

Pelosi of his sand shook Taiwan - democratic))

[alystan]

But this seems to me only the beginning of Chinese sanctions, as reported by Bloomberg (Pelosi's Taiwan Trip Spurs China Battery Giant to Pause Plant Debut, August 2nd, 2022, 11:32 PM GMT+0000):

Chinese company Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Ltd. (CATL), the world's largest battery maker for electric vehicles, has decided to postpone construction of a multibillion-dollar plant in North America due to tensions caused by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's trip to Taiwan.

CATL is the absolute leader in the top ten global manufacturers of batteries for electric vehicles. On March 21, 2022, the company announced that, as part of its expansion program, it plans to build a $5 billion plant in North America that will employ up to 10 workers.

China's CATL's share of the global electric vehicle battery market in the first half of 2022 increased from 28,8% to 34,8% year on year.

In addition, China has also suspended imports to the mainland of the products of 100 Taiwanese enterprises with a total range of about 3000 items.

It is very likely that Pelosi only helped Beijing by untying its hands in relation to the obstinate island, whose ownership by China was officially recognized by the United States back in 1991.

[tralflot1832]

Kim Jong-un should recall the presence of the DPRK on the Korean Peninsula. Did he prepare a rocket to launch into the sea, through Japan?

[Rusik.S]

I remember someone wrote that China would put up a blockade and sit on Nancy Island. Didn't. Flew away showing who is the boss in the world.

[alystan]

Especially for you, a good and sensible analysis from the telegram channel "League of Gentlemen":

Beijing has once again demonstrated a reasonable approach to the existing problem. If something went wrong, not many would suffer, but everyone. If your opponent is stubborn and wants to annoy you, this does not mean that you need to run towards him and endanger yourself and all of humanity.

Fighting the United States was not part of China's plans, so Nancy Pelosi's plane landed safely at Taipei airport. Why did the Chinese raise this nix with threats to shoot down the plane, if they are not yet ready for a serious answer? Did you have to be silent? Anyone who has studied the history of China knows for sure that the Chinese skillfully disguise their true intentions.

Now that the speaker of the US House of Representatives is in Taiwan, China's cards are being played. Beijing needed irrefutable evidence for the whole world, and it got it. The main provocateur and instigator has designated himself in the international arena.

Any military operation must be carefully planned, honed, drawn up according to the schedule, etc., etc. This is what the Russian leadership did in its time with respect to the NMD in Ukraine. Misunderstanding and non-observance of such simple things leads to great consequences and defeats.

Today, the US wanted to push China into the abyss, but the latter managed to control himself, not to succumb to emotions.

Moreover, in the next few hours we will witness the main, if not the general, rehearsal for the seizure of Taiwan.

[Okakakiev]

Chao Pinocchio

[Lech from Android.]

The United States is far away and China is nearby ... in general, the problems for Taiwan are just beginning.

[Romario_Argo]

I agree,
and Lavrov leads different graters there
feel like Taiwan (23 million)
DRG Special Forces of the PLA is probably already in Taiwan - it’s only difficult to name 10 000 DRG (!)
rather, a sabotage and reconnaissance army

[Amateur]

I remember the good old song. Almost about Pelosi's voyage

Where did the circus go?
He was still yesterday
and the wind did not have time
rip posters off the walls.
But they don't burn anymore
his searchlights,
under the dome, his orchestra is not heard.

[tralflot1832]

The circus is gone, but the clowns remain.

[Wbond]

... the old woman sat in the mortar and sped off .... the consequences are yet to come ...

[Paul Siebert]

Go horse, century will not be seen!

[Nexcom]

And even the zones closed by China, her board crossed, as the article says ...

Even somehow not very Chinese partners now look, especially after their noisiness on this topic. Not really....

[Paladin]

The amazing ability of the United States to shit everywhere you can reach, apparently the Anglo-Saxon origin obliges (the Englishwoman shits).
And lately they have had some kind of diarrhea.

[HAM]

Yaga did something nasty on a babolet and rolled off .... now she is hero No. 2 in the states ..... after Zelensky ...

[41 REGION]

Quote: HAM

Yaga did something nasty on a babolet and rolled off .... now she is hero No. 2 in the states ..... after Zelensky ...

After that, Zeleboba No. 2, again, he does not have a stupa

[Flooding]

Quote: HAM

Yaga on a babolet did something nasty and fucked off

And the Taiwanese production of chips was left without 30 million tons of sand from the 90 million tons exported by Taiwan in a year.
The history of neon and helium is not enough for them.

[Million]

China is out of control now...

[Mavrikiy]

Pelosi flew away, Taiwan remained:

Yes, but she promised to return, as always, with a "pro-democracy argument."

[Alien From]

This story is not worth a damn! The dragon knows how to wait...

[Ros 56]

This is the east and this story is costing China face loss.

[alexey alexeyev_2]

Comrade Xi is streamlining ... Along the way, Russia will have to tear the fangs of America alone ..

[v1tz]

Since "historical inevitability" why then were there demonstrations of "strength"? Now it is necessary to prevent the pumping of weapons under Lend-Lease, but most likely they will.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Thank you, Nancy, for strengthening Russian-Chinese cooperation!

[Gorygor]

It is unlikely. Ally from
There is no China for us. Trading partner, yes

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Trading partner, yes

That's enough for Russia...

[kor1vet1974]

As a result, Pelosi flew away, Taiwan remained. What is called, one on one with China.

"He flew away, but promised to return. Dear, dear .." (c)
There was no albatross - kamikaze, who wanted to throw himself into the turbine of the Pilosi plane.

[Nexcom]

the Chinese kamikaze albatrosses simply did not receive such an order from the higher leadership ....

"Even I point out, Slavik ..." (c)

[forty-eighth]

If we try to assess this demarche from purely pragmatic positions, then in addition to the obvious show of force, the states are trying to prevent Xi from a third term. So far, the policy of expansionist Xi is peaceful in nature, limiting itself to increasing trade and economic influence on individual regions. But even such expansionism makes the Merikos nervous.
Pelosi's visit is a very strong move, you can't argue with that. The aggravation of the situation in Taiwan did not greatly shake the stock quotes of the island companies, which means that the saber-rattling from the mainland did not scare even investors.
If the leader of the PRC changes, then there are high chances that a cautious politician like Hu Jintao will come to power. In this case, the US will have sweets to sweeten the bitter pill from Nancy. The most obvious is to promise to give Taiwan to China, but somehow later, later. This fully fits into the worldview of the Chinese, who traditionally look out for corpses in the river, and the worldview of the Americans, who prefer to hang noodles on their ears. The fact that the Chinese are happy to deceive themselves, so as not to get involved in conflicts, has been shown by recent events.
We are looking forward to the November CCP Congress in China, I think it is there that we should expect the most unexpected surprises.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

cautious politician like Hu Jintao

Cautious politicians like Hu Jintao are needed in a "cautious time" ....
And when you openly declare yourself a great power, build an ocean fleet, etc., such politicians are not needed and therefore do not appear ....
The US is not waiting for concessions from China, the US is waiting for its surrender...
Therefore, instead of C, only more rigid than C can come ...

[Terran ghost]

The US is not waiting for concessions from China, the US is waiting for its surrender...

Only this - what do you understand by "surrender"?
In this case, the capitulation of China is China's refusal to implement its globalist project "One Belt - One Road" and inclusion in the globalist project of the United States - "Trans-Pacific Trade Partnership + Transatlantic Trade Partnership". At the same time, it is very realistic for China to negotiate more or less acceptable conditions for such "inclusion".

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Not only this...
Yet:
admission of Western banks to the domestic market;
removal of all barriers to Western goods,
stop supporting its exports,
admission to public procurement,
deregulation of the yuan,
rejection of industrial espionage,
refusal to infringe intellectual property rights,
purchase of natural resources...

In short, as a result of the opium wars ...

[Terran ghost]

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

In short, as a result of the opium wars ...

Of course, nothing even comes close. The situation is not even remotely the same - the Chinese economy is now too powerful.

removal of all barriers to Western goods,
stop supporting its exports,

China is a net exporter. Including because the companies from the North. America massively transferred their production to China. Allowing what goods and removing what barriers?

stop supporting its exports

For China, exports are a source of income. What kind of support? It's the other way around, as exports of Chinese goods to the United States began to experience difficulties due to the imposition of higher import duties, the Chinese authorities had to provide support measures to their domestic market in order to sell goods there.

rejection of industrial espionage,
refusal to infringe intellectual property rights,

Here it is worth clarifying a couple of points. Firstly, any patents have deadlines - this is no more than 20 years for most inventions, utility models and drugs, and no more than 10 years for EMNIP for - microcircuit topology. That is, read, if a Chinese company produces, say, an exact copy of a German car engine of 2001 and earlier in the year of development or an American microprocessor of 2011 or earlier in the year of development, then this is completely legal copying according to all international rules. And so fair and right. Hands off the public domain! ;)

Specific details of the so-called. "Trans-Pacific Trade Agreement" are not public, one can only speculate. But most likely it includes items like:
- automatic recognition of patents of all parties to the agreement (now in many cases, for patent protection of an invention or technology in China, American companies must separately apply for and receive a patent in China itself) plus recognition of industrial secrets and know-how (which will put an end to the ability of Chinese companies to use technologies obtained by methods of industrial espionage and computer hacking).
(essentially, this is necessary to ensure some technological lag of technologies available to Chinese companies not under an American license)
- recognition of the special status of the US dollar (possibly up to the obligation to perform any export-import operations only if they are denominated in dollars) and the regulatory functions of the US Federal Reserve
- submission to the general rules of the "Trans-Pacific Free Trade Area" and regulatory mechanisms under it, which will be created for these purposes.
In return, China will most likely be offered a certain stable market niche with obligations to comply with it.
The bottom line is simply that in the Trans-Pacific Trade Partnership + Transatlantic Trade Partnership project, the People's Republic of China will be .. albeit not the worst (far from the worst, in fact), but a subordinate place. And they will live in this project according to their own rules of international economic activity. In the One Belt, One Road project, China acquires the status of a leader and the side that determines the rules of international economic activity for others.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Of course, nothing even comes close. The situation is not even remotely the same - the Chinese economy is now too powerful.

Before the opium wars, the Chinese economy was very powerful - a quarter of the world's silver supply ....

China is a net exporter. Including because the companies from the North. America massively transferred their production to China. Allowing what goods and removing what barriers?

Nuclear power plant equipment, agricultural products, barriers to financial services, insurance, plastic cards...

China's exports are a source of income. What kind of support? It’s the other way around in a situation where the export of Chinese goods to the United States began to experience difficulties due to the introduction of increased import duties, the Chinese authorities had to provide support measures to their domestic market in order to sell goods there.

State support for its exports ....

any patents have deadlines - this is no more than 20 years for most inventions, utility models and drugs, and no more than 10 years for EMNIP for - microcircuit topology. That is, read, if a Chinese company produces, say, an exact copy of a German car engine of 2001 and earlier in the year of development or an American microprocessor of 2011 or earlier in the year of development, then this is completely legal copying according to all international rules. And so fair and right

know-how has no deadlines...

[Terran ghost]

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

State support for its exports ....

Once again, for China, the export of its goods is what brings in cash income. There is no need for subsidies for exports; on the contrary, the Chinese government had to support the domestic market on purpose in order to replace the "lost" export opportunities.

Equipment for nuclear power plants, agricultural products

Equipment for nuclear power plants is what exactly? Otherwise, China itself is a very powerful exporter in terms of nuclear engineering and is interested precisely in low or no duties.

Before the opium wars, the Chinese economy was very powerful - a quarter of the world's silver supply ....

In conditions of a technological lag of 150-200 years, silver reserves mean nothing. Actually the only reason for the so-called. "centuries of China's humiliation" in the 19th century is that, due to the policy of isolationism, China is seriously (about 150-200 years) behind in terms of technology.
In China itself, this was perfectly understood by the way .. and appropriate conclusions were drawn from this.

know-how has no deadlines...

Patent rights for ANY invention have a term limit of no more than 20 years. So again - hands off the public domain!
Formally, an industrial secret has no expiration date. But - only as long as it remains a secret. That is, it is protected only from unauthorized access to it (for example, by bribing a competitor's employee or hacking) - a situation where "the device was bought legally in a store, and then copied by reverse engineering" from the point of view of precisely the legislation on industrial (commercial) secrets (not from from the point of view of patent law) is not a violation at all. Because there was no illegal access to protected industrial (commercial) secrets at all.

[Nexcom]

Comrade Chairman Xi waxed himself. It was necessary either not to make noise or to keep promises.
At least not let his officials make far-reaching comments.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: forty-eighth

If the leader of the PRC changes, then there are high chances that a cautious politician like Hu Jintao will come to power. In this case, the US will have sweets to sweeten the bitter pill from Nancy.

It is unlikely that with Xi coming to power, the theme of patriotism and the greatness of the nation has risen to a new level ... even take the same visit of Pelosi, needless to say, how the Chinese perceived her visit to Taiwan on Wechat and other social networks, not to mention the media. .. frankly, the mood is militant, and if we recall the pogroms of Japanese shops and businesses at the time of the aggravation of national issues in China, then the topic of patriotism is not an empty phrase there.

Therefore, it is more likely that Xi will face internal public pressure and criticism of the Hawks, due to too soft actions to protect sovereignty and the US violation of the "One China" principle ... and if anyone comes after him, it will either be a person from the power bloc or someone from the Hawks.

And I have little faith in the coming of a pro-American leader. this will limit the growth of China, and the Chinese will no longer accept the role of the younger brother of the United States, and after yesterday's incident, all the more so, relations have been spoiled worse than ever ..... and this is not to mention Quad / AUKUS, which are aimed at China. Therefore, it is very unlikely that the second Hu will come.

[forty-eighth]

It is quite possible that pressure on Xi will come from hawks as well. I do not deny this. I pointed out the weakening of Xi Jinping's position as a leitmotif. After all, he will have to overcome the ban on filling the positions of the Chairman of the PRC and the General Secretary of the CPC Central Committee for more than ten years, which in itself is a task (although this ban has already been removed from the constitution).
As for the pro-American leader, I rule out such a possibility in principle. I was talking about a cautious leader, which is not synonymous with a pro-American politician. Proponents of this course usually sidestep sharp geopolitical angles and focus on the least competitive regions, such as Central Africa and South America.

[Mint Gingerbread]

I do not understand those who yell at China, they say they did nothing. What are you, sick people? Is this show and entertainment for you? If you want to exchange rackets, well, anyone can fly to, and your wife, children or grandchildren will turn into coal, like a barbecue. Think about it.

[moreman78]

What the hell? There is a simple rule - I took out a knife, hit, and if you are not ready for a fight, then you don’t need to rattle and boast about how cool you are! And the same is true in politics. So the states very clearly put the Chinese in their place. There are golden words of Chechil about the choice between war and peace...

[forty-eighth]

Quote: moreman78

about the choice between war and peace...

between war and shame

[Ros 56]

And whoever spoke about rockets, you don’t have to suck anything out of your finger, albeit mint. And by the way, about this:

If you want to exchange rackets, well, anyone can fly to, and your wife, children or grandchildren will turn into coal, like a barbecue. Think about it.

The Donbass has been thinking for a long time. Honor and dignity are dearest of all, for which they put their lives.

[Mint Gingerbread]

The conflict in Ukraine has a regional scale with a minimum involvement of the armed forces. Don't compare your butt to your finger. Here is a situation of clash between major powers. Because of the island, no high-ranking officials in their right mind will shoot down.

[Ros 56]

And whoever talked about the murder, well, do not pass off your fantasies as reality.

[Mint Gingerbread]

OK then. Answer the military experts of this site, how would you stop the aircraft? This is not land or water movement, where you can use soft power. Moreover, the plane was surrounded by escort and was physically moving towards the island.

[Kesha1980]

And in 38, the Chinese bombed Formosa (under the leadership of Zhigarev, Rychagov, Polynin, 280 bombs were shipped). By the way, the "Chinese pilot Fyn Po" wrote his memoirs in Russian. Real name Fedor Petrovich Polynin, future Colonel General, com. Polish Air Force - from the age of 44.

[Dmitry X]

And I thought the expression "The last Chinese warning" was just a joke ...

[Ros 56]

Yes, comrade SI was clicked on the nose. How will he answer???

[man]

Yes, comrade SI was clicked on the nose. How will he answer???
wipe off

[Nosferatu]

The Chinese wiped themselves with the arrival, swallowed with flying away.

[Nexcom]

no matter how much they have to do it all the time now .....
the policy of such prosers does not forgive.

[man]

a ban on the export of sand, two varieties of fish and some fruits.
Yes perishing, simply frightening sanctions! How ruthless is China! The Taiwanese are horrified, and if China also stops exporting carrots ... trouble

[forty-eighth]

Strictly speaking, sand is silicon. And silicon is the main raw material for chips, processors and the entire semiconductor industry.
Sand is everywhere, it's true. But Taiwan processes it in some unrealistically cosmic quantities, which is why it is forced to import it.

[Nexcom]

after this sand is cleaned from the ram - then yes. and actually there will be about 68-70% silicon.

[Two]

China will NEVER do anything to harm itself! That's why the 555th "last" Chinese warning ...

[Terran ghost]

Quote: Dos

China will NEVER do anything to harm itself!

And he is absolutely right, in fact.

[Alexandr2637]

As a result, Pelosi flew away, Taiwan remained.

Nobody doubted that it would be so.

[ankir13]

Goodbye Mary Poppins! DO NOT start a serious fight over this. The girl flew on! To live well! A good life is even better!

[Zagrebun]

"He's inflamed, and the plane will be shot down" ... even inspired.

[fa2998]

The states do not have democracy, but anarchy. They do whatever they want, without regard to the president, and others.
They asked not to aggravate, she flew off. It's hard to imagine that this will happen again in our country. Such a "policy" the plane will be pushed into one place.

[gsev]

Quote: Terran Ghost

Of course, nothing even comes close. The situation is not even remotely the same - the Chinese economy is now too powerful.

Before the opium howls, the Chinese economy was even stronger. The Chinese sold everything to the world except weapons without buying anything in return except for precious metals. The first direct trade deal with China brought more profit to the Russian treasury than annual taxes from all over Siberia. Capitulation to the West then led China to disaster.

[Timofey Charuta]

American grandma Pelosi was scared like an adult, but the 1000-first Chinese warning again did not work. They are American grandmothers, you won’t take them on a black sheep. I was not even afraid of Chinese ICBMs, which were dragged along the coast on tractors.
Kadyrov said well before that: "Let's see who is really great - China or the USA."

The loot won, which the Chinese merchants do not want to lose.

I disagree with those who claim that the Chinese have never won wars with foreign powers. In the Korean War of 1950-1953, they showed themselves well and kicked the seat of the Americans. So there is experience ... Then it got to the point that the enraged MacArthur called for dumping the so-called Chinese on the Chinese. volunteers in Korea an atomic bomb, otherwise they cannot be stopped, for which he flew off the post of commander.

[DienBienPhu]

All this happened before the Chinese Party Congress, which is not good for Xi Jinping.

[7 poplar]

it was necessary at least not to let Baba Yaga's plane into the airspace and that's it!

[Roust]

The pitiful squeak of a little dragon.

[Rage66]

Pelosi left, Taiwan stayed

It shouldn't be like that...
Pelosi is gone, China is left