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Three main problems of the People's Militia of the LDNR

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More than five months have passed since the start of the military operation in Ukraine, but most of the problems of the People's Militia of the LDNR (and the RF Armed Forces), which were revealed at the initial stage of the operation, have not yet been resolved. Despite statements from TV screens that “the army is getting everything it needs,” and those who say otherwise are alarmists and all-out thugs, the problems have not gone away.

What problems are experienced by the People's Militia of the LDNR? There are actually quite a few of them, but I would single out three main ones - supply problems, isolation of command from the real situation on the ground, lack of rotation. Let's consider them in order.

About problems with the supply of the People's Militia of the LDNR


The supply problem is still a key one for the warring army. Despite the fact that this topic is constantly raised by military commanders, bloggers, volunteers who help this very army, in general, the situation has not changed much.

After five months of the war, the issue of providing fighters with personal protective equipment is still acute - bulletproof vests, helmets, etc. The fighters are either not given them at all, or they are given helmets from the Second World War, and armor from the times of Afghanistan, which burst at the seams. The situation is exactly the same with equipping the army with communications equipment and drones.

The command, apparently, does not intend to solve this problem, because the fighters answer the corresponding requests - “look for the armor yourself.” Therefore, an important role in the supply of the People's Militia is now played by volunteers who provide assistance to both the NM LDNR and the Russian army.

Here, the OPSB Foundation, one of the founders of which is Vladimir Grubnik, and the KCPN (Coordinating Center for Assistance to Novorossia), headed by Alexander Lyubimov, are especially worth noting. At the same time, they are regularly attacked by various journalists and bloggers for allowing themselves to criticize the leadership of the People's Militia Corps and the leadership of the republics.

The problem with the supply of the People's Militia of the LDNR has been going on since the time of the Minsk agreements - then the supply of units was carried out according to the residual principle, and a significant part of the necessary did not even fall into the units and was simply stolen. And now all this affects the combat effectiveness of the People's Militia units.

A lot of uncomfortable questions arise: why, before the start of the SVO, knowing that mobilization would take place in the republics, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation did not bother to create a stock of the required number of bulletproof vests, helmets, machine guns, medical preparations (harnesses, medicines)? There are no answers to these questions.

On the isolation of command from the real situation on the ground


Let's move on to the consideration of the second problem - the isolation of the command from the real situation on the ground.

When setting tasks for subunits, the leadership apparently does not quite understand whether the subunit is capable of fulfilling them and what the real operational situation is now. Here is what one of the fighters of the People's Militia of the LPR Yegor, who is directly on the front line, writes about this:

“Quite often we incur significant and, most importantly, unjustified losses. Thus, there are fewer and fewer people. There is no replenishment as such. There are no reserves. All possible human resources were thrown to the front line at once. These are the personnel of the corps and all the civilians who were caught in the process of mobilization. From personal observations, 10–20% of the personnel remained in the units. The rest dropped out for various reasons.
It is interesting that the tasks are set without taking into account losses. The leadership gives an order to carry out a combat mission based on 100% of the personnel. However, instead of 100 people, ten actually go to carry out the task. Hence, as a snowball of loss and, of course, the physical impossibility of completing the task.
Middle-level commanders do not always have accurate information about the situation at the forefront. Since junior commanders, not wanting to lose people, mislead them. People go to storm the heights, retreat with losses, the second time with their chests on the machine gun, the third, then they simply ignore the orders and have every moral right to do so.

It is worth noting another important point - according to reports, all units of the People's Militia of the LPR and DPR are equipped with everything necessary, while in fact many mobilized reservists are still armed with Mosin rifles and are deprived of armor and helmets. Therefore, the picture that middle and senior commanders have, and the picture that actually takes place, can differ quite a lot.

On the lack of rotation


Well, the third problem, which is impossible not to mention is the lack of rotation.

Despite the announced operational pause, as such, no one gave the soldiers of the People's Militia of the LPR and DPR a rest. While during the mobilization, the families of the mobilized residents of the LPR were told that they were called up for 90 days, and after this period a rotation should be carried out, in fact, after this period, no rotation was carried out.

Here I will again quote a fighter of the People's Militia of the LPR:

“Most of the fighters have not been home for five months. Wives and children have forgotten what they look like. The parcels are delivered by humanitarian organizations. And this is a very unreliable business.
There are no official channels with parcels. There is no communication along the front. Talking to family is not always possible. More precisely, it is almost always impossible. This is very, very strong and negatively affects the morale of the guys.
Gentlemen, commanders, maybe one of you will read this text and make the right decisions about rotation and vacations? I understand that tasks need to be completed, but you are still dealing with real people.”

Apparently, the main reason why the rotation is not carried out is that there is simply no one to carry out replacements in the People's Militia of the LPR and DPR, because there are no reserves in the republics to fully replace those who are fighting on the front lines right now.

Therefore, those who say that the prolongation of the conflict and slow progress are in the order of things, I would like to remind you that those who are on the front line, without basic amenities and communication with their families, are not biorobots, but still living people.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 6 August 2022 16: 08
    -14
    request request request What is true, what is not true, you can’t see from the sofa.
    1. mitroha
      mitroha 6 August 2022 16: 12
      -6
      Emotions are understandable. But we are all handsome when we criticize. But often our proposals are broken by reality .....
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 6 August 2022 16: 17
        -15
        The author of the type from Luhansk, why not mobilized? All his articles that everything is bad, but there is not a single material and there was not from him from the front line! And somehow I don’t really want to believe such a correspondent
        1. DeGreen
          DeGreen 6 August 2022 16: 23
          -29
          Very similar to the style of Strelkov / GirkinD. That one too, it's bad
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                      1. Andrey VOV
                        Andrey VOV 6 August 2022 19: 53
                        -4
                        Mordvin, judge people by their deeds, what did this Girkin do? Damn reenactor, he caught stars in the war, but there is zero
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 6 August 2022 20: 10
                        -2
                        Quote: Andrey VOV
                        Mordvin, judge people by their deeds, what did this Girkin do? Damn reenactor, he caught stars in the war, but there is zero

                        Will you also write about the disgraced Ivashov?
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              2. Andrey VOV
                Andrey VOV 6 August 2022 19: 51
                -10
                It's not for you to talk about military operations, son, I have two wars, but where did this Girkin fight? Fucked up Slavyansk, pretended to be, there is no one
            2. iz odessy
              iz odessy 6 August 2022 17: 57
              +4
              also lowered his status, why? 1. A lot of personal pret in the assessments of the events of 2014. How petty. 2. Everything is bad. Well, an adequate colonel should understand what he is doing wrong, working as an "analyst", if enemy air is filled with your "quotes"
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        3. Ingenegr
          Ingenegr 6 August 2022 18: 07
          +11
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          And somehow I don’t really want to believe such a correspondent

          It's understandable that you don't want to. Seeing the world through rose-colored glasses is much easier. Only now the author, to the displeasure of some of the "viewers", described everything exactly.
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          The author of the type from Luhansk, why not mobilized?

          How to determine from the text whether a person is mobilized or not?
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          there is not a single material and there was not from him from the front line!

          Why does this material have to exist?
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 6 August 2022 20: 38
            -7
            Engineer, and you look at the reports from the front line of the Kotsa, redovki, Vlad Lena and compare it with the crying of this Yaroslavna. The man is offended by the authorities in Lugansk, apparently he wanted to be there, but no, it didn’t work out, so he squeezes articles about how bad everything is
            1. Ingenegr
              Ingenegr 7 August 2022 00: 23
              +10
              Quote: Andrey VOV
              Engineer, and you look at the reports from the front line of the Kotsa, redovki, Vlad Lena

              I do not need to watch reports, read texts. I see with my own eyes how and what happens there, with what, on what and how they fight, with what and how the RF Armed Forces and the LDNR militia are equipped. So there is no point in agitating "for" or "against".
              Yes and
              Quote: Andrey VOV
              stake
              , nevertheless, the person's surname, and not the dog's nickname, should be written with a capital letter.
              Like
              Quote: Andrey VOV
              Vlad Lena
              , which is not Lena at all, but Vladlen, also does not interfere with writing with a capital letter. By the way, he and many others in their channels regularly announce fundraising for equipment and crew for different units. I wonder why this is needed, if "we have a mustache".
              Quote: Andrey VOV
              here he is squeezing articles about how bad everything is

              Can you reasonably refute or confirm?
              By the way, the author of the article does not write about the fact that "everything is bad". He wrote that not everything is rosy and good. And between "everything is bad" and "not everything is good" there is a difference.
        4. John22
          John22 9 August 2022 18: 24
          0
          Maybe the author of the article, like, got out of military age. I don’t want to believe in bad things, and everything is fine on TV, but in reality it’s even worse than it is written. The truth is hidden and persecuted for the truth. From this, even bitterly mobilized unprepared people are dying.
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 6 August 2022 16: 37
        -18
        Am I missing something about rotation?
        It is Russia that is conducting a special operation to help the LDNR, and they have a full-fledged war until the threat to the lives of their mothers, children, etc. is completely removed. and the expulsion of the Nazis, at least to a safe distance.
        I can’t say anything about underequipment, we need specific facts.
        1. Alexey Lantukh
          Alexey Lantukh 6 August 2022 21: 12
          +11
          Somehow I watch in May either the 1st or the 2nd channel. Our correspondent shows the Donetsk guys who have already arrived in the Donetsk direction from Mariupol. The fighters were just getting (finally) body armor. Perhaps these are the armor of those fighters of Ukraine who surrendered in Mariupol. On the head helmets of the times of the Second World War. He takes a peppy interview from them, and they try to avoid it. So, pay attention to the equipment when you watch TV. And if the fighters were with Mosin rifles, then this is a minus for our MO. Do we really not even have enough Kalash?
  2. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 6 August 2022 16: 08
    -15
    They don’t let you go home for 5 months .. And how did our grandfathers fight in the war? All 4 years and most bezvylazno? My father has been in Afghanistan for 2 years, 2 vacations were in total ..
    Biryukov, don't you want to go to the front line yourself? So that they don’t write to me like that, but myself, with photo and video materials, on the front line, there is no desire?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 6 August 2022 16: 13
      +12
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      And how did our grandfathers fight in the war? All 4 years and most bezvylazno?

      So it is. Only supply issues definitely need to be resolved more quickly.
      1. ammunition
        ammunition 6 August 2022 17: 05
        +28
        Quote: Egoza
        So then it is

        No not like this. In the Second World War, the rotation was .. except for desperate situations.
        Companies and battalions were assigned to the rear .. for replenishment and rest .. as well as for training and retraining.
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 6 August 2022 18: 43
          +10
          Yeah, it was ... Especially near Stalingrad, fought for a month and went on vacation to the Canary Islands. My grandfather first went through the Finnish, and then the Second World War, and was never on vacation.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 6 August 2022 19: 22
            -6
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Yeah, it was ... Especially near Stalingrad, fought for a month and went on vacation to the Canary Islands. My grandfather first went through the Finnish, and then the Second World War, and was never on vacation.

            Lucky your grandfather. Mine, right on the second day, from under Stalingrad, from the penalty box, was written off cleanly, due to a serious injury.
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 6 August 2022 20: 23
              +9
              My grandfather was wounded twice, and both wounds were in the same month. The first time in the leg for a flight, and the second, when crossing the Seversky Donets, they took out a bunch of fragments from the head, but God had mercy, he reached Berlin, and then until 1947 the Poles taught artillery wisdom.
        2. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 6 August 2022 19: 15
          +14
          Quote: ammunition
          Companies and battalions were assigned to the rear .. for replenishment and rest .. as well as for training and retraining.

          Usually regiments, brigades and divisions.
          Six months without rotation, this is a clear bust - war is, first of all, hard work and rest is necessary.
    2. DeGreen
      DeGreen 6 August 2022 16: 24
      +5
      My grandfather started the war on June 22, 1941 and returned home on August 1, 1946. And nothing
    3. withoutreverse
      withoutreverse 6 August 2022 16: 43
      +8
      Well it!! If he is at the forefront. then who will write on the VO website ??
    4. Kronos
      Kronos 6 August 2022 17: 15
      +2
      Even in the Great Patriotic War there were holidays.
      1. U_GOREC
        U_GOREC 6 August 2022 17: 39
        +5
        Quote: Kronos
        Even in the Great Patriotic War there were holidays.

        Only in the cinema!
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 6 August 2022 22: 39
        0
        Quote: Kronos
        Even in the Great Patriotic War there were holidays.

        We have very little, but they have - all the time.
    5. Alexey Lantukh
      Alexey Lantukh 6 August 2022 21: 15
      +9
      During the war, front-line units were periodically taken to the rear for rest and for resupplying.
    6. AdAstra
      AdAstra 6 August 2022 21: 24
      0
      So it’s not a war with us, but it’s our own to say, but during that war it’s incorrect.
    7. Mustached Kok
      Mustached Kok 7 August 2022 09: 34
      +2
      Only the Second World War was still a war against Nazi Germany and its satellites. It was an incredibly strong enemy, he was materially, numerically and industrially dangerous. Such an adversary has never missed our slack. There it was necessary to constantly be on the alert with maximum strength, because if somewhere there was a weakening, the Germans would certainly hit there with all their might.
      And then what ... before the NWO, let me remind you that the conflict has been going on for 8 years. And this is a long time, this is already a whole generation of children who saw the beginning of the war, but by the time they reach the age of majority, the war is still going on. At the same time, most of the time out of these 8 years, there is a lingering shootout on the borders of contact. Then some fighters managed in parallel with the war, sometimes to return to their families. Families need money to live. And our humanitarian aid comes in abruptly. And the periodic return of a soldier also meant that he could bring something home.
    8. ratcatcher
      ratcatcher 7 August 2022 17: 14
      +7
      There is always rotation. Already in the first world war, all parts were rotated. When there were big battles, the rotation generally took place once every two weeks. Because there were big losses plus elementary fatigue. A fighter who sleeps three hours a day due to shelling loses combat effectiveness after about a week.
      Based on the research of military psychologists, the limit time on the limber is 45 days.
      And you have no desire to be at the forefront? Instead of demanding from others?
  3. SaLaR
    SaLaR 6 August 2022 16: 09
    +15
    Now they will mix it with dust ... HOW DARE TO WRITE THIS ....
  4. Anatoly Proskurin
    Anatoly Proskurin 6 August 2022 16: 11
    +9
    A mosinka is in the hands of such a commander. An old helmet, which, after 10 STEPS, does not run, moves out, and attack! Lead by EXAMPLE!
  5. Paladin
    Paladin 6 August 2022 16: 13
    -4
    Easily mixed, and not only with dust. The article lay on the table for three or four months, like the photo, but now it's time to post this crap.
    However, this is a pattern, as soon as the movement begins, no matter where, articles immediately appear where everything is bad.
    I have a friend from Rostov in the NM DPR, but when they called each other, he said that the picture is completely different, both in terms of supply and rotation and preparation before they are sent to the front.
    1. ViktorBiryukov
      6 August 2022 16: 41
      +19
      Your friend is a big dreamer. I get information from people who are directly on the front line, and the picture they give is far from being as rosy as the one that can be seen on TV. “The movement begins” - are you talking about advancing 100 meters a day (namely, how much, for example, the 1st Slavic brigade near Donetsk advances per day), which is very difficult for our fighters? You have other information on the rotation - what is interesting to know if I know the people who were mobilized in February and they still remain on the front line?
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 6 August 2022 17: 14
        +12
        You pretend to ask questions, although the answer to ALL OF THEM is the same and it has been voiced hundreds of times ...
        Well, they didn't plan to "operate" for five months!!! And even more so!
        Everyone thought that they would run "out of the blue" and solve everything. And it’s like that, Mikhalych ...
        That is why stocks were kept to a minimum. Why harnesses and helmets, if dill from one type of stripe "Novorossiya" had to raise their paws up?
        1. TreeSmall
          TreeSmall 6 August 2022 19: 22
          +3
          Everyone thought that they would run "out of the blue" and solve everything.

          And the names of the officials who thought and planned with the same “kondachkom” were voiced?
          Or?
          That is why stocks were kept to a minimum. Why harnesses and helmets, if dill from one type of stripe "Novorossiya" had to raise their paws up?

          I don’t understand why, in preparation for the SVO, they didn’t take into account the need to supply / uniform / equip the mobilized DPR / LPR?
          For Russia, this was easy and fast to do.
          This would have saved many lives and certainly hastened the progress.
      2. U_GOREC
        U_GOREC 6 August 2022 17: 44
        +12
        Lord commanders,

        Is this a form of address in the people's militia of the LPR?

        The leadership gives an order to carry out a combat mission based on 100% of the personnel. However, instead of 100 people, ten actually go to carry out the task. Middle-level commanders do not always have accurate information about the situation at the forefront. Since junior commanders, not wanting to lose people, mislead them.

        I didn’t understand here: the commanders of the "junior level" hide the number of their units in order to ....... avoid losses? What??? wassat
      3. Terenin
        Terenin 6 August 2022 17: 50
        +8
        Quote: Viktor Biryukov
        Your friend is a big dreamer.

        Allegedly, (Victor Biryukov) Your articles, with only one indignation at the LDNR, appeared on the eve of the NWO. Not a single positive, only everything is gone. Who does not believe - read. I'm not saying it's bad. But, the trend ... There was already your similar article dated March 21 of this year.
        Soldiers of the NM LPR on the front line are deprived of basic things. Volunteers help them
        March 21 2022


        And there was also a comment about you, in order to really understand you are leaving the Lugansk information center (how did you sign) or ...?

        Here it is:
        Vladimir61 (Vladimir)
        16 March 2022 18: 37
        NEW

        +2
        Quote: Scharnhorst
        It seems that the author

        Viktor Biryukov is remembered in Lugansk as a former acting director. Minister of Health, now chief physician of the Bryankovskaya city. There is also information about one person (he slipped through the Luhansk newspaper in May 2011, due to the fact that they interviewed those who were born on May 9), who writes about himself that after an urgent appointment at the GSVG, he worked as an electrician, then contract from 86 to 89 he served in Afghanistan, where he met his wife, who worked there in a cafe. In recent years, he worked as a seller, then as a boiler operator .... If so, then you should read the answers of the moderator and one of the authors on VO Alexander Staver (domokl), about contract service in Afghanistan. I think this will clarify a lot. Link to VO - https://topwar.ru/103085-answer-na-voprosy-serzhant-kontraktnik-v-sovetskoy-armii.html
        In the LPR, no one knows such an "observer" and "military correspondent"! Most Afghans in 2014 stood together with the first head of the LPR, Valery Bolotov, but information
        about the militiaman Viktor Biryukov, I did not find. I admit that this is a pseudonym, another expert.
      4. Paladin
        Paladin 6 August 2022 18: 17
        -2
        Word for word, right? Imagine that these are your dreamers. Well, or you personally. Or you desperately prevaricate when you write.
        Yes, it’s hard, but somewhere around 100 meters. And somewhere and a couple of kilometers. A lot of things have already been written and said about the Donetsk direction, and no one expected a quick advance there. But these are military actions, and where today you have to move 100 meters, tomorrow it turns into kilometers. If you do not understand such elementary things, then why take up writing articles? Well, if you start to tell further that the situation has not changed since March, then what is there to talk about with you?
        Yes, and Donetsk is not the only place where the fighting is going on.
        In general, I imagine the release of such an article somewhere in the years 41-42. And you imagine.
        1. Virus-free crown
          Virus-free crown 6 August 2022 19: 06
          +5
          In general, I imagine the release of such an article somewhere in the years 41-42. And you imagine.

          Well, I imagined bully
          3 days to check the facts set forth in the article, and then someone to the wall - either the Author for misinformation and alarmism, or supply chains for theft and fraud hi
          And it seems to me that the author on the 4th day would write to us all here that the troika justified him drinks it’s just hard for me to imagine that in the Second World War people collected money for the most primitive and necessary things, and since they are still collecting it, it seems that these are not scammers, well, I don’t believe that they have been collecting and putting it in their pocket for so many months
          1. Paladin
            Paladin 6 August 2022 19: 51
            +2
            it’s hard for me to imagine that in the Second World War people collected money for the most primitive and necessary things

            Learn history. Collected for everything from socks to tanks and planes. It's a shame, my friend, not to know elementary things.
            1. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 6 August 2022 22: 15
              +2
              Quote: Paladin
              it’s hard for me to imagine that in the Second World War people collected money for the most primitive and necessary things

              Learn history. Collected for everything from socks to tanks and planes. It's a shame, my friend, not to know elementary things.

              I know the history well, grandparents told good Who survived it themselves, and grandfathers fought, both. So, they collected money not for footcloths with boots, but for the construction of tanks, aircraft, even ships. And wearable things were simply sent in parcels to the front, who could send what, who had what, from knitted socks to sweaters with mittens - that is, what, according to the Charter, was NOT included in the mandatory set of equipment and uniforms am and now all sorts of groups, communities and chats are raising money for what SHOULD (in my mind) be included in the equipment.
              Such is the difference hi
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 7 August 2022 18: 17
            +2
            Quote: Corona without virus
            3 days to check the facts set forth in the article, and then someone to the wall - either the Author for misinformation and alarmism, or supply chains for theft and fraud

            The "KCPN Report" on the real state of affairs in the People's Militia as of 2019 has gone upstairs for several months already. And the answer is silence...
        2. commandos111
          commandos111 6 August 2022 19: 30
          +6
          How is it that no one expected a quick promotion? Podlyak, for example, talked about the Donetsk mega-boiler. and all the experts are local too. re-read old comments.
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 6 August 2022 17: 23
      +20
      Want an interesting photo?
      I wrote a series of articles about WWII military footwear.
      I didn’t talk about the modern one, but ... Please note:

      Our fighter in ... Ukropov's boots! Why is that? I think quality and convenience played a role. And if the state-owned ones were better - figs, he would change his shoes. And you say the supply is on top ....
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 6 August 2022 18: 01
        +2
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Want an interesting photo?
        I wrote a series of articles about WWII military footwear.
        I didn’t talk about the modern one, but ... Please note:

        Our fighter in ... Ukropov's boots! Why is that? I think quality and convenience played a role. And if the state-owned ones were better - figs, he would change his shoes. And you say the supply is on top ....

        Why weren't you embarrassed by the practically new camouflage on our fighter? Ah, the shoes you instantly saw winked And immediately about the general supply ... Then write in detail how he angrily removed it from the still warm corpse ...

        And by the way, your links to Ukrainian sites are somehow suspicious
        ZSU officially confirmed that the Russian occupiers are injured like homeless people - Channel 24 in 2022 Monster trucks, Military, Swat
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 6 August 2022 18: 07
          +1
          Nothing suspicious.
          I draw information from all available sources. And "on the other side", too. So the picture is more complete. to me from therefriends send, and I already choose what is worthy of attention, and what is slag.
          And as for the form - I think it suits the fighter.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 6 August 2022 18: 25
            -1
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            My acquaintances send me from there, and I already choose what is worthy of attention, and what is slag.

            Your choice, Nazarius, I do not dispute. No.
            I am confused by the "accidentally" thrown by you
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            That is why stocks were kept to a minimum. Why harnesses and helmets, if dill from one type of stripe "Novorossiya" had to raise their paws up?

            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            And you say the supply is on top ....
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 6 August 2022 18: 26
              +3
              What confused you?
            2. DeGreen
              DeGreen 6 August 2022 18: 53
              -10
              Yes, he is a provocateur. I won't be surprised if he sits in Kyiv, on Vladimirskaya 33
              1. lis-ik
                lis-ik 6 August 2022 19: 29
                +4
                Quote: DeGreen
                Yes, he is a provocateur. I won't be surprised if he sits in Kyiv, on Vladimirskaya 33

                And where are you sitting? and you are not a provocateur?
                1. DeGreen
                  DeGreen 6 August 2022 20: 18
                  -2
                  I'm in Kolpino
                  1. lis-ik
                    lis-ik 6 August 2022 20: 30
                    -1
                    Quote: DeGreen
                    I'm in Kolpino

                    And why in Kolpino? But not there?
                    1. DeGreen
                      DeGreen 6 August 2022 20: 33
                      0
                      I am 53. I am disabled. To be a burden there?
                      No. I fought my three wars with honor. Now I'm helping the kids
                      1. lis-ik
                        lis-ik 6 August 2022 20: 35
                        +4
                        Quote: DeGreen
                        I'm disabled. Yes, and I'm 53 years old

                        I am 54, I never allow myself to give assessments to colleagues, I am not disabled and served, maybe that's why I weigh it in my comments about hostilities and liberalism?
                      2. DeGreen
                        DeGreen 6 August 2022 20: 54
                        -3
                        If you can't read, I repeat, I went through three wars. Now it all has an effect. On foot. I do not criticize colleagues .. I expressed my opinion about this opus
                      3. lis-ik
                        lis-ik 6 August 2022 20: 55
                        0
                        Quote: DeGreen
                        If you can't read, I repeat, I went through three wars

                        Sorry, I didn't know about the three wars.
              2. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 6 August 2022 20: 04
                +1
                Quote: DeGreen
                Yes, he is a provocateur. I won't be surprised if he sits in Kyiv, on Vladimirskaya 33

                Will you bring high-quality Russian boots to the LDNR next week?
                1. DeGreen
                  DeGreen 6 August 2022 20: 21
                  -2
                  Faraday and Garsing (Belarusians gave 30 pairs). And not only shoes. Many things. What did you do sitting on the couch?
          2. DeGreen
            DeGreen 6 August 2022 18: 27
            -7
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Nothing suspicious.
            I draw information from all available sources. And "on the other side", too. So the picture is more complete. to me from therefriends send, and I already choose what is worthy of attention, and what is slag.
            And as for the form - I think it suits the fighter.

            Well, yes, you draw information, only you have it, somehow one-sided, everything is somehow against Russia
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 6 August 2022 19: 48
              +9
              Are you satisfied with one-sided information, where there are only victories? How then did you survive “Saratov”, “Moscow”, Serpentine, Gostomel?
              Perception of the world is not broken?
              1. lis-ik
                lis-ik 6 August 2022 19: 57
                0
                Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                Are you satisfied with one-sided information, where there are only victories? How then did you survive “Saratov”, “Moscow”, Serpentine, Gostomel?
                Perception of the world is not broken?

                Serpentine earlier had to be given, or not taken at all. He's not needed.
                1. The leader of the Redskins
                  The leader of the Redskins 6 August 2022 19: 58
                  +4
                  I agree. Symbolically capture the camera, stuff the rocks and coastal waters with mines and leave.
                  1. lis-ik
                    lis-ik 6 August 2022 20: 07
                    +3
                    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                    I agree. Symbolically capture the camera, stuff the rocks and coastal waters with mines and leave.

                    In general, everything is strange. It is possible to bypass Kharkov and advance further, but at the same time block the westerners on the western borders. That's all, here we come with supplies! But for some reason, ours choose a frontal attack, with no damage to the communications routes, this is a game of giveaway!
              2. DeGreen
                DeGreen 6 August 2022 20: 24
                -7
                For those who are red-skinned, red-skinned, that ..... but also pouring mud and writing that everything is bad with us, like Strelkov / GirkinD, is also stupid. What do you want though? You are in Ukraine
      2. DeGreen
        DeGreen 6 August 2022 18: 26
        -2
        Citizen leader of the redskins, redskins. Ukropov's boots were sold and are still being sold with us, on a par with American and others.
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 6 August 2022 19: 42
          +3
          As far as I know (true from the Internet), there is a SPECIAL tag with an inscription on the official uniform and shoes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. "Not for sale".
          If such a product is found at a merchant, then the relevant services begin to deal with it.
          But, even if we assume that the fighter himself bought these, or imported boots instead of state-owned ones ... Why did he do it? If ours is the best?
          And you can also study the Internet and find a video where dill opens a cardboard box with the IRP of our MO, and on the packs the date of suitability ... 2015 (!) Year !!!!
          I also came up with this and I highlight it one-sidedly ?!
          PS One of my first comments after a long break was:
          "Unfortunately, SVO reveals many shortcomings" ....
          1. DeGreen
            DeGreen 6 August 2022 20: 22
            +2
            Our IRPs also have the inscription ,,, not for sale ,,, and American MRPs also say not for sale. And on the fence, too, a lot of things are written
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 6 August 2022 20: 27
              +2
              Well, answer logically - will you buy stolen enemy shoes if you already have them on your feet and are they better?!!!
              Only without wagging, otherwise, indeed, it starts to smell of provocateurism ....
              1. runway-1
                runway-1 7 August 2022 13: 26
                +4
                Or, as an option: some "optimists" are just at work here ... winked
          2. AdAstra
            AdAstra 6 August 2022 21: 31
            +4
            If it were better, of course, I wouldn't change it. It's just more pleasant in rose-colored glasses somehow.
      3. fif21
        fif21 6 August 2022 20: 30
        +1
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Our fighter in ... Ukropov's boots!

        These are not dill berets. Felt ankle boots with rubber soles, this is a Tuvan or a Buryat, judging by the high cheekbones. Radio station, armor, AK with a grenade launcher, gloves are too big, and the outfit is decent. Whom the statutory form does not suit, they buy what they need, and this was the case in Afghanistan and Chechnya. I myself bought rubber semi-boots and rubberized "sheburshun". hi
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 6 August 2022 20: 44
          +5
          Come on!
          This is exactly Ukropov's TALAN. Notice how the sole goes over the toe of the boot. True, like the previous model. They are updated regularly.
          1. fif21
            fif21 6 August 2022 21: 49
            +1
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Come on!

            You are right, I made a mistake with felt berets. repeat
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 6 August 2022 21: 04
          +1
          Quote: fif21
          These are not dill berets.

          Heh, it’s worth the mug commenting on the breakthrough from Pervomaisk.
          "We didn't expect them to run barefoot in the snow!"
        3. Alexey Lantukh
          Alexey Lantukh 6 August 2022 21: 22
          +3
          The difference between the fighters of the Russian Federation and the Luhansk police in the outfit and equipment of the units is decent.
      4. malyvalv
        malyvalv 6 August 2022 23: 08
        0
        Do Ukrainians make such shoes themselves or are they bought where everyone can buy? And is it true that everyone is dressed in such shoes?
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 7 August 2022 06: 30
          0
          Sami. TALAN company. Moreover, they constantly improve, use new materials.
          I didn’t see it myself, I didn’t feel it, but on the forums 90% of shoes are praised.
          Now, during the CBO, there are many others besides these boots. Both imported and Ukrainian factories - like a substitute.
      5. Shark Lover
        Shark Lover 10 August 2022 07: 36
        +1
        A trophy is always sweeter, more convenient, etc. Especially NATO. You walk in a trophy, which means, first of all, you got it, once you got it, it means you were a warrior. I had a NATO jacket, a fur thing! Beautiful, comfortable, warm, light, but two ways out and in tatters. Our slide is rough, does not breathe, tarpaulin, but whole. Then, each thing has an expiration date, it is very difficult to get another before the deadline, so "nishtyaki" is always useful. This is not from poor supply, just war, any, speeds up time for everything, including life.
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 10 August 2022 08: 23
          0
          Why "slide" does not breathe?
          There is also a tent fabric. Cotton natural. Breathes if everything is done according to the right technologies. My comrades didn't complain.
          Simply, now some "cooperatives" sew from semi-synthetics, when there is more polyester than cotton. Then, of course, there will be discomfort.
  6. know
    know 6 August 2022 16: 15
    -20
    I am afraid that the means of protection allocated to the DPR and LPR and others are being sold to the Banderaites for a profit.
    1. DeGreen
      DeGreen 6 August 2022 16: 25
      +7
      Do not carry crap
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 6 August 2022 18: 04
        +1
        Quote: DeGreen
        Do not carry crap

        This is unacceptable to you, but maybe for him it is in the order of things, buying and selling request
        1. DeGreen
          DeGreen 6 August 2022 18: 23
          -1
          Didn't think. Quite possible
    2. commandos111
      commandos111 6 August 2022 19: 40
      +1
      Yes, there everyone raised money on MMM. I don't think they will cut.
      1. commandos111
        commandos111 6 August 2022 21: 51
        +3
        Denis will tell
  7. Eug
    Eug 6 August 2022 16: 24
    +19
    As always and everywhere, the main thing is to report to the higher management and in no case disturb him (the leadership) with problems ... because apart from troubles, "illuminating" problems to the one who "illuminated" them promises nothing ...
    In terms of equipment and uniforms, the units of the NM of the LPR stationed in our village differed from the National Guard (ibid.) very significantly. Soviet-style "harness", sniper "Mosinki" - here, knowledgeable people said that in terms of accuracy and strength of battle, at least it is not inferior to SVD, uniforms in EMP colors, but certainly not VKB (P) O .. in general, it looks like " partisan" in SA ..
    1. commandos111
      commandos111 6 August 2022 22: 08
      0
      the main thing before sergey panteleyich is to report hehe
  8. DeGreen
    DeGreen 6 August 2022 16: 26
    -20
    The article is very contrived. Very similar to an order from Liberda. A lot of video and photo evidence that this is not so
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 6 August 2022 18: 06
      +1
      Quote: DeGreen
      The article is very contrived. Very similar to an order from Liberda. A lot of video and photo evidence that this is not so

      This is the style of the author, who, by the way, appeared on the site on the eve of the special operation. Read his publications.
      1. DeGreen
        DeGreen 6 August 2022 18: 50
        -6
        So ..... the Cossack is mishandled ,,,,
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 7 August 2022 18: 23
      +4
      Quote: DeGreen
      A lot of video and photo evidence that this is not so

      Heh heh heh ...
      ... official media and military correspondents accredited to the Corps are required to show only smart-looking fighters in the “pixel”, which causes laughter from the personnel, who are forced to prefer to wear more wear-resistant “slides” or other durable, well-tailored civilian manufacturers on the front lines, camouflage suits - “When will the military correspondents start carrying a special wardrobe with them in order to change the fighters into regular clothes before filming?”.

      Clothing supply - uniforms, shoes, equipment. At best, the logistics services of the corps carry out supplies according to peacetime standards, which do not provide for the wear and tear that uniforms and shoes undergo during their constant operation in the trenches. The standard uniform, often sewn in violation of all possible GOST standards from substandard fabric, received the local name “glass”, proved to be completely unsuitable for field use in winter and summer, being issued to the troops, immediately becomes a uniform for combat reviews. Often regular uniforms and shoes are not issued to fighters at all in any set. Knee pads and elbow pads are not provided. Regular sleeping bags and army-style thermal underwear are most often not issued.
      © Report of the KCPN
  9. Bogatyrev
    Bogatyrev 6 August 2022 16: 27
    +12
    An absolutely terrible picture, if true.
  10. Kirill Savin
    Kirill Savin 6 August 2022 16: 50
    +11
    Such articles should be.
    Most often I read urapatriotic posts on VO, then everyone is happy. And as soon as they start writing about problems, all the commentators immediately disappear somewhere or are sent to the front. request
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 6 August 2022 17: 20
      -3
      Quote: Kirill Savin
      Such articles should be.
      Most often I read urapatriotic posts on VO, then everyone is happy. And as soon as they start writing about problems, all the commentators immediately disappear somewhere or are sent to the front. request

      Problems in the conduct of hostilities are everywhere. Believe it or not, even in the US Army. But the fact that the command refuses to solve them is pure lies and a provocation.
      For example, this article says
      The command, apparently, does not intend to solve this problem, because the fighters answer the corresponding requests - “look for the armor yourself.”
      then give the place, time of the fact and the data of the commander (what level) who said this.

      Or this provocative stuffing
      Here is what one of the fighters of the People's Militia of the LPR Yegor, who is directly on the front line, writes about this:
      “Quite often we incur significant and, most importantly, unjustified losses.

      There are no reserves.
      All possible human resources were thrown to the front line at once.
      These are the personnel of the corps and all the civilians who managed to catch in the process of mobilization.
      From personal observations, 10–20% of the personnel remained in the units.
      The rest dropped out for various reasons.

      Who is this provocateur Yegor? Either he is a simple fighter, or he operates with information from the military registration and enlistment office (caught) to the composition of the corps ... This is just offhand ...

      1. Kestrel
        Kestrel 6 August 2022 17: 56
        +10
        Quote: Terenin
        But the fact that the command refuses to solve them is pure lies and a provocation.

        Quote: Terenin
        then give the place, time of the fact and the data of the commander (what level) who said this


        Of course, everything that even a jot diverges from the manual of the political instructor is a blatant lie and a lie. How else is that.

        If you want details, names, appearances and passwords - read or even better ask Andrey Morozov aka Murz. For a long time he told and showed a lot of things about the situation in the NM L / DPR, plus read the report of the KCPN.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 6 August 2022 18: 18
          -8
          Quote from Kestrel
          Want details, names, appearances and passwords

          How would you like? You have to be responsible for the market.

          Quote from Kestrel
          Of course, everything that even a jot diverges from the manual of the political instructor is a blatant lie and a lie.

          What is the name of the politician?
          And what do you know, sir Kestrel , about the institute of deputy commanders for political affairs?
          Among them was political instructor Vasily Klochkov.
          This, I am not explaining to you. You are useless.
          1. Kestrel
            Kestrel 6 August 2022 18: 30
            +6
            Quote: Terenin
            How would you like? You have to be responsible for the market.


            Well, go ahead, read the information voiced above and comment on your own accusations of everyone and everything in a lie about the actual state of affairs in the NM of the republics. As many as a hundred and a half pages of reading matter, which is not easy and not too beautiful.

            I will leave the maxim about Klochkov and the rhetorical question about political officers unattended - you are clearly not so stupid as not to understand the essence of my phrase about manuals. Therefore, leave moralizing and attempts to transfer the topic of conversation to the personality of the interlocutor for someone else.
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 6 August 2022 18: 47
              -3
              Quote from Kestrel
              As many as a hundred and a half pages of reading matter, which is not easy and not too beautiful.

              Why are you tossing me this stuff? I know your well
              Quote from Kestrel
              Andrey Morozova aka Murz.
              He would have dealt better with "extracorporeal organized crime groups" in his homeland than without ceasing to scribble for days in all instances on the "failure of Russian advisers"
              1. Kestrel
                Kestrel 6 August 2022 18: 54
                +4
                Quote: Terenin
                Why are you tossing me this stuff?

                Quote: Terenin
                How would you like? You have to be responsible for the market.


                They asked about the specifics - they pointed it out to you. Now "evidence is not evidence", and people are not the same. But I still see no substantive rebuttal from you. How so? Maybe the whole report is a complete lie? In this case, you will surely be able to easily debunk it with iron arguments and links.
    2. DeGreen
      DeGreen 6 August 2022 18: 51
      -8
      Do you even know what is wrong there, as this author writes?
  11. lambert
    lambert 6 August 2022 18: 02
    0
    A strange series of articles from this author. According to his brief maintenance - everyone who is met on the street is rowed into the army of the Lao PDR (it is strange why the author is sitting at home and not with everyone), the uniform is given out of the previous model, and not the VKPBO or Ratnik, preferably the latter option (I would like to clarify for a start - the people's militia ordered the amount of equipment and paid money to the industry for the equipment), so that the Russian army would immediately give ShS-40 according to ShS-68, and not Kevlar helmets - they are lying on the floor in the Russian army, no one needs them - I don’t want to take , bulletproof vests - HORROR - from the times of Afghanistan - (I was here a year ago in Baltiysk - the local marines also have old-style vests and even horror - they are BLACK), 7.62 mm rifles mod. 1898-30 in sniper performance. In general, UZHOS. Some volunteers save - they are like God.

    What can be said about this topic. The author wants to give out everything new for the called-up replenishment for understaffing and for the formation of newly formed parts - it won’t be like that, they will give out what they have at the moment, because there is no other and, at best, they will receive a new one only after half a year (the author will give something Have you heard about the production cycle and the procedure for the formation of the State Defense Order and holding tenders?

    At first, it would be better to listen to a course in general tactics at a combined arms school, or at least at the military department of a university, then I would write.


    Well, about his information about the losses and the care of the commanders, I just won’t talk, the person here doesn’t understand anything. Kindergarten, junior group, pants with straps.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 6 August 2022 19: 45
      +3
      Quote: lambert
      I would like to clarify for a start - the people's militia ordered the amount of equipment and paid money to the industry for equipment)

      There it is! And the people of Kiev denyuzhki and so allocate with equipment. All the same, are they somehow better than the militias and those mobilized from the LDNR? The second - the second grade? Maybe then Nazism has its reasons?
    2. AdAstra
      AdAstra 6 August 2022 21: 34
      -2
      What is not horror?
  12. Arkady007
    Arkady007 6 August 2022 18: 37
    +1
    1. Money for armaments, etc., has been allocated from Russia since the age of 14 constantly. So you need to look for traitors among your own and execute them publicly.
    2. Stupid bosses were always and everywhere. So it is necessary to change and put others.
    3. Rotation yes, the question is complicated. Well, back in the fall, you said that you were not allowed to reach Kyiv, and now all of a sudden, you have freed yourself and immediately turn on the back?
    1. victor50
      victor50 6 August 2022 22: 47
      +4
      Quote: Arkady007
      Stupid bosses were always and everywhere. So it is necessary to change and put others.

      It is difficult to manage the stupid ones. In our reality, individuals are not tolerated. Therefore, perhaps, they select not sensible and independent, but obedient.
  13. Kesha1980
    Kesha1980 6 August 2022 18: 38
    0
    If junior commanders "hide" the small composition of the unit, then what kind of staff do they receive allowances and other support for? So it's doubtful.
    Rotation. 24/7 databases are not maintained. Every day, infa is published on the losses of l / s LDNR - up to 10 people. Yes, and where to take to the rotation? To the Kursk region, like ours? Dismiss at home? In fact, only the "old" units are in combat contact (as far as I know).
    Bring your equipment ahead of time. So this is called complete unmasking. We have already detained many spies, who from the OSCE carried out various tasks. Do you think that this would not have been recorded and passed on to the authorities?
    If "in garlic": from Russia, about 0,1% of the population participates in the NWO (a little more, let's say 0,12%). Volunteer battalions from the regions will be added soon (some are already there). Let's bring it up to 0,15%. Is there infa about the% mobilized for the LDNR? Old infa - about 50.000. Approximately 1%. I admit that there is a problem that "some" citizens of the LDNR subject to conscription are absent on the territory of the LDNR. To be honest, I even know one, so I assume such a factor.
    Outfit. Of course reserve warehouses (long-term storage). Here, too, it is not surprising, because how else? There are few warriors, about 20 years ago I had 20 Spanish helmets in my company, only those who go to the SBZ used it, the rest managed with spheres. I can emphasize that it was those who went to the SBZ (almost the same ones) who had relatively good equipment, because you know that this is an important matter. Therefore, you yourself will bribe, and you will definitely sew up a leaky one. Trophies again (what to hide - the trophy right is sacred and undeniable). But the key thing is that only the 2-3 echelons have bad ammunition (as far as I know from the LDNR).
    Rotation (more precisely, vacations) will soon be - wait for our regional volunteer battalions. A month or two. The war is going on - it's like this ...
  14. yakisam
    yakisam 6 August 2022 19: 11
    +9
    Useful article
    I want to ask only one question - WHY
    why when I warned - on February 25, 2022 - that this would be exactly the case, then
    a flurry of...unpleasant words fell upon me?
    it's OBVIOUS - that's how it was in "lost" Russia,
    then in the "revived" and so it has not been for the last 200 years only under Soviet power
    And today I say AGAIN - it will only be THIS, and then it will be WORSE
    because the leadership (leading ... class) is completely indifferent to all this
    maybe those who are in the meat grinder realize this
    and conclude? relevant conclusion?
    Or are we back from 1914 back to 1917?
    1. Alexey Lantukh
      Alexey Lantukh 6 August 2022 21: 28
      -3
      This has never happened before, and here it is again. (V. Chernomyrdin). Such a Race.
    2. AdAstra
      AdAstra 6 August 2022 21: 37
      -2
      So no one wants to think about bad things and that they are being deceived, therefore the flow of words
  15. kytx
    kytx 6 August 2022 19: 43
    +2
    Well, here's what you say.
    Well, I'm sure that all these guys, including those from the command and administration, they hung in these "gray" 8 years of confrontation.
    They stirred up gray schemes with charcoal humanitarian aid and so on.
    The real madmen aka Motorola were safely killed. And we thought it would always be like this.
    An no. World. Changeable..
    They will also dig you in the dump and I don’t feel sorry for you.
    Greed is a sin.
  16. yakisam
    yakisam 6 August 2022 19: 46
    +6
    this is a fratricidal war
    and there is nothing strange in the fact that one of the parties is poorly supplied
    probably the second side is also poorly supplied
    but it may be much more important to start thinking - how bad is it
    that the "people's militia" is poorly equipped
    but how good is it that the "people's militia" and "nationalist battalions"
    equally "poorly" equipped
    equally consisting of Russian people, albeit with a different dialect
    on the ONE land of the Russian people
    kill each other?
    1. ratcatcher
      ratcatcher 7 August 2022 19: 12
      +1
      Still not equally bad. Terroboronovtsy in at the very least armored armor, although sometimes of extremely dubious quality and not in steel helmets from the Great Patriotic War ...
  17. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 6 August 2022 19: 55
    0
    The main problem of all of us, without exception, is Abramovich and his comrades. Who can explain why they are called oligarchs? And what would they be called and what would they do with them in the USSR, for example? After all, now many are yelling and squealing about the restoration of the USSR. So maybe raise questions about nationalization? Without it, everything will turn into a farce.
  18. Siberian54
    Siberian54 6 August 2022 20: 52
    +3
    The capricious moods of the high command, some analysts managed to assure that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would rush to remove the clown .. Here is the result of this mistake, the lack of elementary means not only of "helmets" but also of drones at first and now there is a lack of drones that can hang over the rear for hours and return home when the signal is lost
  19. Russian Patriot
    Russian Patriot 6 August 2022 21: 36
    +8
    These problems had to be solved before 24.02.
    They all come down to a complete failure of the preparation for the NWO. And those people who knew perfectly well what was to come in 2022 and planned the operation are still in their posts. They should be judged as traitors.
    1. AdAstra
      AdAstra 6 August 2022 21: 48
      +5
      And they will be rewarded as heroes.
  20. AdAstra
    AdAstra 6 August 2022 21: 44
    +8
    The comrade who wrote that he was transporting, maybe you are transporting because they are really badly supplied, and you are simply afraid to admit it to yourself. I don’t remember something from the news that when the Americans were in Iraq, their volunteers collected shoes, bulletproof vests, etc. for their rangers. If there are comrades from America here, then let them correct it. And personally, for my taxes, I would like to think that our soldier is provided with everything and this is all the best and does not need anything.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 7 August 2022 13: 01
      0
      their volunteers collected for their rangers collected shoes, bulletproof vests, etc.
      A common practice there is to buy online advanced boots and other equipment that you like, with delivery to the base (yes, to the war).
      1. ratcatcher
        ratcatcher 7 August 2022 19: 13
        0
        Are there proofs?
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 7 August 2022 22: 35
          -2
          Take a walk through the English-language forums of the military, drink vodka / beer with them in real life, and you will have proofs.
  21. north 2
    north 2 6 August 2022 22: 07
    -1
    What, would you like to have your own Fidel Castro, Simon Bolivar or Vladimir Ulyanov appear in the leadership of the People's Militia of the LDNR, or in the political leadership of the LDNR? The Kremlin would be scared...
    But since the LDNR People's Militia is a case that has no analogues in the world, it means that the personnel of the LDNR Militia fighting like lions trust the command. And at the expense of world analogues, so where else in the world can you find such an army as the LDNO People's Militia, created from scratch in a few months in an unrecognized state and withstood the aggression of a hundred thousandth Ukrainian army for eight years.
    Well, about with the supply, who and when was everything without a hitch? There were no such armies in the world at all ...
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 6 August 2022 23: 15
      +3
      Quote: north 2
      Do you want your own Fidel Castro, Simon Bolivar or Vladimir Ulyanov to appear in the leadership of the People's Militia of the LDNR, or in the political leadership of the LDNR?

      And they were there. Albeit on a smaller scale.
  22. Maks1995
    Maks1995 6 August 2022 22: 11
    -7
    Something so negative is written that you just want to ask - is there a certificate from the Moscow Region about the veracity of the material? )))

    I remember that before that, various experts said that we would "repeat" and the police alone would throw ukrov into the Black Sea.
    But the appearance of such articles simply says one thing - EDRO. Not a word about the Russian spring, but only about poor supply, spirit, training.
    And the promises of well-fed faces are there to restore and launch something.
  23. Petrik66
    Petrik66 6 August 2022 22: 38
    -8
    Everything, absolutely all the articles of this avatars about how bad everything is. In general, everything is of no use. where did he get all this from - one fighter told kmu. Then, all thoughtful analyzers from VO begin to broadcast smart thoughts about the lack of everything precisely from the words of this soldier of the LPR army to Comrade Biryukov who told about his problems. Everything just came. Girkin is still a long way off, but the direction is clear. The unfortunate militias of the LPR, for five months already, without helmets and bulletproof vests, with mosquitoes in their hands, have been going to zero rush to nameless heights sent there by stupid commanders from headquarters, Author - well, who are you after that?
  24. orcinus
    orcinus 6 August 2022 22: 42
    -4
    Even before the start of the events under discussion, I repeatedly pointed out in the comments about the low level of editorial work on the site. The normal level is when you can find information about the author (full name, place of work, number of publications with links, etc.). If it is located "where it is needed and does what it needs", and the data cannot be shared, let there be at least some infa from the site's management. A person writes in the style of "... I talked with people who were there ...". What kind of journalism is this?! As Shumilin wrote about Simonov - "near-entrenched writers" - heard something, from someone, somewhere, wrote it down and introduced it to the masses. Regarding the topic under discussion: there are a number of telegram channels, incl. directly parts and connections of the NM LPR, for example "Z4". There, the authors give out high-quality video from the first person, conduct, almost regularly, streams with answers to questions. Something there I didn’t see a “combat bum with a mosquito”. As for security, there has never been an "ideal" one in our history. Even under Comrade Stalin, they were collected by collective farms for tanks, planes, etc. To the question "were ready / not ready" - since there has not been such a conflict in the world since 1945, who could have predicted and planned with accuracy? As for "5 months in a saucepan and with a slingshot" (I'm exaggerating), no one has canceled "loot", there are no squeamish people there. Editorial tip: taking into account the current legislation and the situation, carefully check and select the material.
  25. malyvalv
    malyvalv 6 August 2022 23: 11
    -9
    Continuous dill propaganda on VO rushed.
    The fact that the LDNR police are worse equipped than the RF Armed Forces is no secret to anyone. But the fact that "chest on machine guns", the commanders do not know how many fighters in the units, "is a godless lie.
    1. Denistutswoy
      Denistutswoy 7 August 2022 11: 20
      +7
      If you don't like it, then it's a lie right away? Do you just want "everything goes according to plan"?
    2. Petrik66
      Petrik66 8 August 2022 09: 12
      -1
      The trolls, of course, are only glad that such opuses appear in the Russian space.
  26. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 7 August 2022 00: 04
    +5
    Quote: Alexey Lantukh
    On the head helmets of the times of the Second World War.

    Write the truth. There is such a thing. Better in an old helmet than without it.
    Our freelancers from the Wagner Group regularly give away trophy body armor, helmets, NM.
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  28. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 7 August 2022 01: 13
    -4
    I enjoyed reading the comments. In my opinion, some of them need to be clarified.
    1. Someone "advertises" shoes there ... So the Ukrainian (Soviet since 1923) manufacturer "TALAN", back in 2015, signed a contract with "WL Gore & Associates, Inc" for the supply of special fabrics, based on berets for anti-terror groups of France, from their own know-how special impregnation of leather. The cost of such berets, for that year, was more than 1440 UAH (i.e. more than 5000 rubles). But they didn’t supply it to everyone, but to elite units. Therefore, I do not see anything unnatural in the fact that these shoes are more comfortable!
    2. Someone asked, they say, where would the author be in the Second World War ... Such an author, at that time, would be afraid to stick his nose out the window!
    3. There was another question why the author was not mobilized ... Probably because, like many "couch", he evades mobilization.
    Essentially the article. In general, we can agree with another commentator - the author was three months late with the article!
    Yes, there are and will be problems, and not only in the NM DLNR, but they are connected with objective reasons. First of all, remoteness and, as a result, large communication distances. For example, some units of the NM LPR are located on the LBS in the Kharkiv and Zaporozhye regions, the rest in Donetsk, as the Luhansk region, has been liberated.
    In matters of nutrition, there is one principle - we fight together, we eat together! Units fight side by side and under common control. There are no "separate semi-guerrillas".
    The isolation of command, exclusively in the head of the author or his "sources". The tasks and principles of command and control of troops, as well as their structure - from the rifle squad, the tank and to the "army", have not been canceled!
    Rotation! Rotation where stipulated by the contract. Subdivisions of the Russian Federation, in the NWO zone, arrive under contracts. Who for one month (vacationers), who for three (mostly). Who wants to extend further. NM DLNR MOBILIZED by the relevant order! They are taken away only for re-staffing, while it is possible to visit the house for several days.
    I don't have "sources" - friends, former colleagues, neighbors and acquaintances.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 7 August 2022 18: 41
      +4
      Quote: Vladimir61
      Essentially the article. In general, we can agree with another commentator - the author was three months late with the article!

      Of the year on three. Everything described in the article (and even more) was set out in the 2019 "KCPN Report".
      The publication of this document in 2019 was banned with the wording “we will dismiss all those involved from the troops, and we will prohibit KCPN from working in the Republics.”
      © Murz
  29. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 7 August 2022 09: 51
    -7
    Quote: Viktor Biryukov
    Your friend is a big dreamer. I get information from people who are directly on the front line, and the picture they give is far from being as rosy as the one that can be seen on TV. “The movement begins” - are you talking about advancing 100 meters a day (namely, how much, for example, the 1st Slavic brigade near Donetsk advances per day), which is very difficult for our fighters? You have other information on the rotation - what is interesting to know if I know the people who were mobilized in February and they still remain on the front line?

    Is it not destiny to go to the front line yourself? Point plays?
    1. ratcatcher
      ratcatcher 7 August 2022 19: 14
      +4
      Do you yourself write "from a burning tank"?
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 7 August 2022 19: 17
        -4
        No, I am not writing from a burning tank, from home, and I do not hide it, but the author can and should follow the example of military correspondents on the front line, and then there will be more confidence in his materials.
        1. ratcatcher
          ratcatcher 8 August 2022 12: 44
          +3
          Here is what they write from there: “I am reading rubbish about the backward Armed Forces of Ukraine, in which everything is bad, in which there is nothing and everything is gone. Like, there are charged units with Western MLRS and artillery, for which Western intelligence works - but there are evil wicked ones, of which the majority, without I have not yet seen Ukrainian warriors with Mosinki and in iron helmets. Rapiers. They praised cool dry rations, they have a Ukrainian uniform according to NATO standards, all layers, all sets - and not a glass pixel. Any Ukrainian HF company commander can, if necessary, call an attack drone. Let's get away from hatting and giggling over the enemy - to destroy him and win, you can’t underestimate it, you need to clearly understand with whom and with what we are fighting.
  30. iouris
    iouris 7 August 2022 11: 12
    +7
    We need to end this circus. The "militia" should be integrated into the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with all the ensuing social consequences.
  31. Shamil88
    Shamil88 7 August 2022 14: 20
    +2
    Why hasn't the militia been added to our troops and provided with everything necessary? Musicians, militia, volunteers, army, how do you manage all this? It is necessary to abandon these BTGs and go to the brigade to divisions and corps, create a shock army and break through the front, in 6 months the NVO did not break through the front anywhere and did not enter the operational space. We will liberate the DPR at a tactful pace for at least a year
  32. ratcatcher
    ratcatcher 7 August 2022 19: 18
    +3
    Yesterday, Zakhar Prilepin had a link to a person who is constantly engaged in supporting the fighters of the DPR, LPR. His conversation with the mobilized (this is now, not at the beginning of the SVO):
    About the composition of the reservists:
    “The fucker, the baker and the pharmacist gathered, and we are at war”
    About the presence of bulletproof vests:
    “Only crosses are on us from the armor” - “And what, are they saving?” - "As you see"
    On the distribution of civilians to military specialties:
    “A man from the Philharmonic came. - Who are you in civilian life? - Flutist. - Well, here's a flute for you. Gave a grenade launcher "
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 7 August 2022 21: 42
      -3
      Quote: ratcatcher
      Yesterday Zakhar Prilepin had a link to a person

      It was on the military correspondent's blog "Kitten" and there is nothing to be surprised here. NM DLNR has been fighting not for 100+ days, but for the ninth year! They started with "bare hands", thousands have died over the years. Thousands, during this time, left with their families. And today, for their "home", for some, the liberation of other settlements, this is a house in the literal sense, they are in the forefront. How many of them have died during all this time can be seen from the disproportion in our men and women. The last, almost every fifth, in a black scarf.
      And the flutists die like the others.
      Gloating those who itch, but the nationalist Ukraine will be finished!
  33. Frank Muller
    Frank Muller 8 August 2022 00: 14
    +5
    I can state right away: I judge on the topic under discussion from the current Donetsk aborigines (including participants in the ongoing hostilities), information gleaned from several sites of the Telegram channel (“Reports of the militia”, “Ghost of Novorossiya”, etc.), on the basis of which I have reason to agree with many of the statements of the author of the material. Yes, and I know Donetsk much better than some of those discussing it, because. at one time he lived in this city and visited it often, including during the eight-year "interwar season".
    The supply of the NM of the DPR, which, it seems, was not paid attention to the past eight years, is evidenced by overwhelmingly numerous appeals and announcements in which they ask the population to donate everything they can for the front (binoculars, tablets, square-topters and other things suitable for modern warfare). There were personal requests like: “Does anyone have a helmet and body armor for my brother on the front line?” Numerous captured weapons captured from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and immediately used in combat conditions testify to how the NM is armed. The Mosin three-line rifles are also not fiction: sites about the NMD contain video materials in which the militias, famously reloading long rifles (which cannot be confused with anything), shoot at the enemy. And back in the spring, the most outspoken users of these sites were indignant: “Customs officials do not allow volunteers, weapons, or equipment to cross the border. Looking with an indifferent fishy look, they shrug their hands: “Nothing is needed there, everything is there!” As a last resort, they set a legal one-month period for customs clearance, and the volunteers are turned back anyway.” It is now August, but I have not come across information that everything has changed dramatically for the better.
    The mobilization situation has not changed for the better, which is quite understandable: the DNR’s mobile resources are not enough for such a war, and without the support of the RF Armed Forces, the DNR and LNR are Khan. The DPR’s existing recruitment capabilities are almost exhausted (it was reported that they were going to recruit students and university professors) and this explains the difficulty of replenishing the constantly growing combat losses, and, consequently, the rotation of battle-weary units. It is not surprising why the NM units are still fighting hard for Avdiivka and Maryinka (in fact, the suburbs of Donetsk) from where the Armed Forces of Ukraine methodically fire at Donetsk in a cross direction. There is no RF Armed Forces in this area, except for episodic aviation sorties (although a Tu-95 air regiment with a full bomb load would be enough to mix the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this area with crap). Although a lot of Donetsk, meanwhile, are fighting in the Kherson region. And they fight, they say, not bad. And where to go? The members of the National Battalion have openly declared that they are not going to take the separatists into captivity. I hope the latter pay them the same. I just don’t know why the Russian Federation (positioning the NWO, first of all, as the liberation of the LDNR) delayed this very “liberation” so much?
    To the caustic proposal “Go and fight yourself!”, I will answer bluntly: “Old people who have long exchanged their eighth decade are not allowed to the front line.”
    1. Foul skeptic
      Foul skeptic 8 August 2022 09: 59
      +1
      reported that they were going to call on students and university professors

      Called back in the spring.
  34. Gendy
    Gendy 8 August 2022 03: 54
    +2
    What I want to say ... The problems about which the author of the article indicated are taking place in the People's Militia, noooo. Not everywhere and not everywhere. Some of those mobilized from the LPR were sent to the DPR and other areas. In the Kharkiv region, the mobilized fell under the command of the Russian Federation. There, with the mobile workers, the medical board and some of the unfit were demobilized (diabetics, the disabled), then the ragamuffins caught the eye of the command and, after being stuck in the rear, they were provided with armor (albeit old-fashioned, but provided). According to the DPR, a friend from there has already twice escaped home on a visit (a little, for 3 days, but he has been). In the DPR, Lugansk mobiles roam - the front end / roadblocks / study at the training ground (that is, there was a conditional rotation from the front end). I am not writing for all divisions, but directly where my acquaintance serves. Also, much earlier they put things in order with allowances and salaries for mobile workers - since May they have been paying 75 thousand, for which the people immediately equipped themselves a bit. LNR...and there, pis....ts. Ahead of everyone in the mess, stereotyped command and losses is Platov's 6th regiment with the so-called commander-hero of the LPR, who proudly announces his great losses (he thereby shows how hard they fight). Mobs were also attracted in patterned repetitive attacks. So, there the companies managed to grind off in THREE DAYS. In the regiment, the mechanisms of interaction with neighboring units are so poorly debugged, artillery training (friendly fire is our everything), poor command of the operational situation, a mess in orders and documentation (they knocked out a friend and just didn’t connect anyone to start paying allowances - 75 thousand rubles). They started paying only by August, and he was not the only one there). Now for the supply - they collected equipment for a friend and tried to send it to the front. It turned out to be another problem - to transport the armor. The debugged scheme of sending through the draft board worked once. on the second parcel, armor and knee pads did not reach the addressee; they were lost somewhere in the depths of the people's militia. Those. these amazing people are not only unable to equip a fighter, but they can also love the purchased equipment for their own money ...
  35. koralevviktor
    koralevviktor 8 August 2022 09: 05
    0
    Human resources are running out. And who wanted something else? LDNR is not that big.
  36. odisey3000
    odisey3000 8 August 2022 20: 21
    -1
    an agent of dill, to shoot. And for whom it is easy now in the war, Russian soldiers are dying for their homeland, there are problems everywhere and they are being solved slowly. discussions on this issue.
  37. hhurik
    hhurik 10 August 2022 19: 00
    0
    Volunteer work - equipment
    Quote: Alexey Lantukh
    Somehow I watch in May either the 1st or the 2nd channel. Our correspondent shows the Donetsk guys who have already arrived in the Donetsk direction from Mariupol. The fighters were just getting (finally) body armor. Perhaps these are the armor of those fighters of Ukraine who surrendered in Mariupol. On the head helmets of the times of the Second World War. He takes a peppy interview from them, and they try to avoid it. So, pay attention to the equipment when you watch TV. And if the fighters were with Mosin rifles, then this is a minus for our MO. Do we really not even have enough Kalash?

    Well, it's better to see once
  38. hhurik
    hhurik 10 August 2022 19: 03
    0
    The work of volunteers - people are throwing off a pretty penny, since the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation does not want or cannot.
  39. Altmann
    Altmann 11 August 2022 20: 06
    0
    There is a mistake somewhere, I have no right to criticize anything, but the wording of the article, if it corresponds to the given situation, is bad, gentlemen. It seems that there are many commanders and few soldiers. The content of the discussion and especially the number of deleted posts testify to the truth of the article. What are you guys afraid of, maybe it's true? am