The Crimean bridge was covered from a missile attack by a sea "shield" of corner reflectors

Against the backdrop of constant defeats of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the front, the Kyiv regime seeks "victories" by inflicting rocket and artillery strikes on civilian targets in the Donbass and the border regions of Russia. At the same time, at the official level, it is constantly said that one of the priority goals is the Crimean bridge.

This grandiose structure, from the moment of its design, caused particular nervousness among the authorities of the Independent, demonstrating the break of the peninsula with the Ukrainian past and Russia's intention to turn Crimea into a prosperous region. The existence of the bridge haunts the Kyiv regime and it is quite expected that there will be attempts to destroy it.

Hypothetically, a missile attack on a structure from the HIMARS MLRS transferred by the West is possible. The rockets fired from them are not capable of harming the supporting structures of the bridge, but they can pose a danger to passing vehicles if they manage to overcome the multi-layered air defense covering this strategic object.

But even if enemy missiles are lucky enough to break through, they will have to face the traps set by the Russian military. Footage appeared on the network showing a large ship shield of project 436 bis located near the bridge. Target ships of this type are being built at the Sokol Shipyard in Blagoveshchensk. A grid is fixed on board the barge between the masts, on the tops of which corner reflectors are installed. The homing head of the rocket reacts to the signal reflected from them, taking a false target for a true target.

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[Seryoga64]

Footage appeared on the network showing a large ship shield of project 436 bis located near the bridge

So where are these shots?
On the video in the article you will not understand anything at all

[Cat Alexandrovich]

This note is not for VO readers. She is to confuse the enemies!

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

This note is not for VO readers

Discrimination

[Repellent]

Quote: Seryoga64

On the video in the article you will not understand anything at all

[figwam]

In short, the dill missile will aim at this thing, not the bridge.

[Repellent]

Quote: figvam

dill rocket will aim at this thing, not at the bridge

Well, in fairness - not any. But with RLGSN, for example - yes, it will be so.

[figwam]

What they get from the West, they will fire at

[Piramidon]

Quote: Repellent

Well, in fairness - not any. But with RLGSN, for example - yes, it will be so.

With a laser seeker, it will probably be the same

[kind]

Quote: figvam

In short, the dill missile will aim at this thing, not the bridge.

And if the rocket is aimed at the coordinates of the bridge? There is a completely different principle of correction on the way to the goal.

[Repellent]

Quote: Good

the missile will be guided by the coordinates of the bridge

The bridge is a long one. Here's what I'm interested in:

- How accurately can (from space? Or how?) determine the coordinates of a particular beam of the bridge?
- how accurately will the rocket, according to these coordinates, hit this point?

Nirazu not spetsializd in this area, and therefore interested.

[ada]

Well, if with serious development, then individual elements are in the region of 10 centimeters.
I think that all the parameters they (disgusting) have already been recorded.

[Repellent]

Quote: ada

around 10 centimeters

damn it.

[Johnson Smithson]

around 10 centimeters

only a rocket in flight will not be able to obtain coordinates with such accuracy,
for a moving receiver, the accuracy is lower

and then the GPS signal is easy to suppress with a jammer

[ada]

This, I, is relative to the true coordinates of individual elements of the bridge structures, which is also rather arbitrary for such a spatially separated high-rise structure, especially above the sea surface.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Good

Quote: figvam

In short, the dill missile will aim at this thing, not the bridge.

And if the rocket is aimed at the coordinates of the bridge? There is a completely different principle of correction on the way to the goal.

Do you mean GPS? So she, too, learned to fool.

[navigator777]

Quote: figvam

In short, the dill missile will aim at this thing, not the bridge.

The Ukrainians now have the most long-range missiles, these are Harpoons, and they should just be aimed at the reflectors and not at the bridge, because the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthe reflectors is much larger than the bridge. Remember how the poor shot down a passenger plane over the Black Sea, the rocket redirected to a larger target and not to the target.

[Baloo]

Quote: figvam

In short, the dill missile will aim at this thing, not the bridge.

an amateur question: what if a salvo of several dozen missiles simultaneously along a ballistic trajectory guided by jeepies?

[Seryoga64]

What kind of vision do you need to have to see in a second

[KVIRTU]

When you go over the bridge, you definitely won’t understand anything :)
It's such a fence.

[Thrifty]

On the basis of the Karakurts, it is necessary to create a version of the ship with enhanced air defense, by installing frozen Thors at the stern and in the center of the hull, and this laya is effective only in good weather, and a missile flying low above the water can simply go around this trap.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Thrifty

a missile flying low over the water can simply bypass this trap.

For long-range Harpoon missile modifications, a radar homing head is used in the final section. In the final section of the trajectory, it captures the target with the largest EPR signature. Therefore, it will definitely not bypass corner reflectors.

[TreeSmall]

In the final section of the trajectory, it captures the target with the largest EPR signature. Therefore, it will definitely not bypass corner reflectors.

Corner reflectors these PKR can not be deceived
RGM-84L-RBL (Range and Bearing Launch - launch by bearing and range)
is used in the case of the availability of information about the exact location of the target and involves the inclusion of an active radar homing head only in the final leg of the flight when aiming at the target, which reduces the possibility of countering electronic warfare.
RGM-84N - INS + GPS and 2 supporters of the communication channel. But here la is needed.
RGM-84E- INS + Navstar, final thermal imaging, with remote control.
And there is also ATACMS Block IA Unitary: guidance on INS and GPS and warheads in 230kg.
Watching what they ship

[Commodore Arctic]

Thank you! I wanted to answer the same!

[Vita vko]

What is supplied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine exclusively with a radar seeker. GPS at all strategic objects should be jammed, and the television guidance channel works only from the side of an American bomber, in the absence of electronic warfare, of course. Otherwise, a broadband VHF channel for a television seeker simply does not work. More precisely, it works but at a line-of-sight range, and this is no more than 40 km.
So no options. Corner reflectors, if they do not guarantee safety, then reduce the threat significantly.

[TreeSmall]

What is supplied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine exclusively with a radar seeker. GPS at all strategic objects must be jammed

1. Well, you are exactly like a relative of Zaluzhny or
Stoltenberg (or as they are called correctly) You know EXACTLY how much and what kind they supply! Sobchak will not let you lie! Yes?
2. O. Zmeiny, kr.Moskva- they say the opposite, completely, from your version. Primates eat everything
3. I shouldn't ☝️ Chew about GOS!
PySy. I touched them (GSN, different) with my hands, although 30 years ago. Cool down….

[Taimen]

They will drag "Tomahawks" with the "grater" system and where will the reflectors be? And everything is going to this. "Our dear partners" will not be stingy with this. true Faberge will be on the lampshade).

[TreeSmall]

On the basis of Karakurt, you need to create a version of the ship with enhanced air defense, due to installation at the stern and in

So it's a long time.
This, in fact, should have been taken care of earlier. And the bridge is already covered by ground air defense crews

[Repellent]

Quote: Thrifty

a missile flying low over the water can simply bypass this trap

It's not a trap, it's a lure

[Piramidon]

Quote: Thrifty

On the basis of the Karakurts, it is necessary to create a version of the ship with enhanced air defense, by installing seared Thors at the stern and in the center of the hull

There are enough land "Thors" around the bridge. Why keep them on the water? Tea bridge is not a ship on the open ocean.

[Knell wardenheart]

This, of course, is very interesting, but I still don’t understand how it can protect against defeat at coordinates known in advance as accurately as possible. From third-party illumination of the support, yes, it will probably protect. From a missile guided through a secure GPS channel or a missile using secure telecontrol - no. Here the whole point of the question boils down to whether such missiles will fall at the disposal of Kyiv.

[Oleg1263]

Here the whole point of the question boils down to whether such missiles will fall at the disposal of Kyiv.

Of course, they will. The West has already cleared out all the stocks of its rubbish. Now the deliveries of advanced weapons will begin.

[Luenkov]

It remains to destroy the workshops for the production of these weapons?

[spirit]

The same as the visors on tanks. Useless, but the necessary Generals reported on the work done to strengthen the borders

[Kesha1980]

Stage 2 - weld the tank goose onto the bearing supports. Stage 3 - fill the KAZ blocks with sand (I met such an armored infantry fighting vehicle).
But, frankly, an additional percentage of protection will not be superfluous.

[Luenkov]

You can lift balloons with a net. What is there, checked.

[Disant]

The same as the visors on the tanks. Useless

who even spoke / wrote?
I don't even ask about statistics.

[ada]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

This, of course, is very interesting, but I still don’t understand how it can protect against defeat at coordinates known in advance as accurately as possible. ...

This complication of the "target" situation, in a limited sea area from threatened directions in some angles, is not organized for the direct protection of the bridge. Obviously, there are other threats.

[businessv]

The existence of the bridge haunts the Kyiv regime and it is quite expected that there will be attempts to destroy it.

This is absolutely true, it will definitely be! I would like the bridge to be not only protected as it is written, but also the concept of retaliation strikes was applied in case of attempts to attack the bridge, or other objects in Russia!

[Geo73]

I would like the bridge not to be attacked, Ze and the headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are whispering the escalation scenario in a vehement manner. Nothing new

[Luenkov]

There is no headquarters and there is no one to whisper to ... isn't it?

[Rusticolus]

the concept of retaliation strikes was used in case of attempts to attack the bridge, or other objects in Russia!

What do you. No retaliation strikes. We do not succumb to provocations. At least until they start ironing the ruble and the new rig..

[Romanovski]

But I don’t see the SENSE of publishing such information in the public domain .... And how do you want to understand the publication of videos and photos? Lost all caution...

[Luenkov]

They blabbed the secret and posted a detailed video ... They specifically planted it under the article ...

[Romanovski]

But has the article in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation for "careless" publications already been canceled?

[Two]

In order to annoy Russia, the striped ones will do anything! It will be necessary and the MRBM will be restored from the targets and brought.

[Leshak]

This is all good, but can you take off your white gloves and break it so that there was no time to remember about the bridge ?! Add a contingent and advance along the entire front?! The dill is getting bolder. Too many strikes on Russian territory. Something needs to be done about this.

[rocket757]

The Crimean bridge was covered from a missile attack by a sea "shield" of corner reflectors

. For some reason, I remembered how we here, at VO, offered to pull the nets at the border, with the same Kukuevsky ones, so that we could catch our CALIBER.
Alas and ah, the underestimation of foreign guardians, former (I hope) partners, can our leadership cost dearly?

[Andrey1966]

I myself will beware, and I will advise my relatives not to travel on this bridge.

[Luenkov]

I'm also all worried. Suddenly the dill brick will be thrown off and even silicate.

[ugol2]

It seems to me that the Crimean bridge is out of reach, otherwise these scumbags would have banged on it long ago. 300 km is too far for MLRS and cannon artillery, but it can handle single air defense missiles.

[Luenkov]

Do you know the length of the bridge?

[Ivanushka Ivanov]

Funny thing... Is that all?! This screen does not look very reliable ...
Here is laughter, laughter, and something like that can be completely used to protect ships from torpedoes. Some kind of mesh curtains on telescopic brackets, equipped with explosives.

[Repellent]

Quote: Ivanushka Ivanov

It's all?! This screen does not look very reliable ...

It's not a screen. This thing is to a rocket like a saucer of honey is to a fly...

[Ivanushka Ivanov]

Somewhere nearby there is a fly swatter on duty ... They came up with a clever idea ... now let them just poke their nose ... they will immediately receive it in the acceptance center!

[ada]

Quote: Repellent

It's not a screen...

Not quite so, for a similarly sized, low-lying surface object, relative to the radar shadow, there may be a screen and a false target. With proper hydrographic support, the shield (target) can be mobile to a limited extent and move during the "windows" period in the absence of an observer. Additional "targets" can become many in a limited area for accurate target identification. Targets are usually equipped with additional simulators of typical surface target activity.

[Repellent]

Quote: ada

maybe a screen and a false target

Quote: Article

On board the barge, a mesh is fixed between the masts, on the tops of which are installed corner reflectors. The homing head of the rocket reacts to the signal reflected from them, taking a false target for a true target

[ada]

This is a replaceable equipment, additionally installed and removed masts, towers, nets and catching nets, fabric screens imitating the silhouette of the NK (PL, LL, etc.), equipment models, heat emitters (earlier - roughly, there were special stoves with open burning) , smoke generators, emitters simulating the operation of radars and other RTS, etc.. Setting is usually on "barrels". Moving the target - in tow. My experience of dragging between barrels - 4 "cadet forces" is enough
The long-range RTR (RRLS) can be deceived, and the missiles have become hefty "smart". Here it is probably possible to overload their "head", including with "eyes", a mass of imitation and interference in a short period of time in an area limited for maneuver near the target. It is necessary to ask specialists in anti-ship missiles. This is if we expect the enemy to massage weapons from sea directions to reload the missile defense system. And, from the air, along the OTRK - you can’t hang a balloon there.

[Luenkov]

Have you ever fished from a bridge? Why do you need a barge?

[Alex_Bora]

Here is laughter, laughter, and something like that can be completely used to protect ships from torpedoes. Some kind of mesh curtains on telescopic brackets, equipped with explosives.

It was already on battleships, cruisers of the times of WWI. No explosives though.

[iouris]

Cover with a huge banner: "The Ninth Wave". Aivazovsky...

[Third district]

This miracle trap was probably made on purpose in order to amuse the Kyiv propagandists.

[Repellent]

Quote: Third District

This miracle trap was probably made on purpose in order to amuse Kyiv propagandists

No, this is a serial product:

Quote: Article

... a large ship shield of project 436 bis. Target ships of this type are being built at the Sokol shipyard in Blagoveshchensk

Chukchi - writer

[PYCCO_TYPUCTO]

harpoon Zelensky in the ass

[Ross xnumx]

The existence of the bridge haunts the Kyiv regime and it is quite expected that there will be attempts to destroy it.

For example, I am haunted by the continuation of trade relations with the enemy country and the Nazi authorities. Calm me down. Say that all ties with the Ukrainian authorities have been severed.
And what cardinal measures for the systematic destruction of Ukraine's infrastructure are being taken today? What part of Kyiv's infrastructure ordered to live long? Why don't they put corner reflectors along the bridges on the Dnieper?
It is so understandable that any war requires proper logistics. Why do the rears of the Armed Forces of Ukraine still exist?
*****
We were explained that in case of repeated strikes on the territory of the Russian Federation, the answers would be at the decision-making centers. You may ask what prevents this? I'm just sure that there are no civilians in these centers.
Shoigu declares that the West will continue deliveries in order to prolong the conflict (although, what kind of conflict is there - they are trying to unleash a real war with us). Why does Russia continue to provide the Western economy with the energy resources necessary for its existence? Maybe we should exacerbate the internal problems in unfriendly countries to such an extent that they would have no problems other than seeking happiness for their own population?

[Luenkov]

More and more people are asking the same questions. Who is listening?

[Tests]

" Target vessels of this type are being built at the Sokol shipyard in Blagoveshchensk. "
I don’t understand anything: the village of Sokolskoye from the Nizhny Novgorod region from the Volga (Gorky reservoir) went to Blagoveshchensk on the Amur and Zeya?

[Luenkov]

Not gone! Sailed away.

[Albert Brecht]

The banner should be "Among the Waves" by the same author, it will fit better into the proposed concept, feel free to change one for another and sleep peacefully

[Konnick]

Have you received any thanks from the Armed Forces of Ukraine for this detailed story about the false target?

[Repellent]

Quote: Konnick

Have you received any thanks from the Armed Forces of Ukraine for this detailed story about the false target?

Do you think this barge is not visible from space? Who needs it - already knows everything ...

[ada]

There, on the ground, there is enough, both video, and photos, and verbally, including passing ships, not to mention the satellite constellation of "partners".

[navigator777]

Today I drove across the bridge, corner reflectors stand along the bridge, starting from the Krasnodar Territory, and stand near the arches of the barge.

[Luenkov]

Reflectors draw attention. How without them? Why not tie them next to the bridge. That will be funnier.

[Alex_Bora]

To be honest, they will write nonsense in the article, and do not put their signatures!

The article talks about what missiles are possible as a weapon to strike the bridge?

About the HIMARS MLRS, and a missile with a firing range of up to 300 km is the OTP ATACMS - a short-range ballistic missile with INS and GPS correction.

Has anyone heard about ballistic missiles with radar seeker?!

Me not.

So what is the basis for us to make a statement about the protection of the bridge with the help of shields with corner reflectors ???

PS
Although the Chinese call their Dong-Feng "aircraft carrier killer", here's "for the life of me", I don't quite understand how they will hit a moving target with the ability to maneuver with a ballistic missile without a SBC? The rocket speed is too high for correction (if only powerful gas dynamics), and the problem of a radio-opaque plasma screen at high speed has not gone anywhere.

[Santa Fe]

Has anyone heard about ballistic missiles with radar seeker?!

Me not.

Pershing-2

[Alexey Lantukh]

Actually, there is a recipe for protection Threaten with a tactical nuclear strike on target at the Kyiv hydroelectric power station. The radioactive bottom will be exposed, the lowlands of Kyiv will be flooded.

[certero]

Quote: navigator777

Quote: figvam

In short, the dill missile will aim at this thing, not the bridge.

The Ukrainians now have the most long-range missiles, these are Harpoons, and they should just be aimed at the reflectors and not at the bridge, because the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthe reflectors is much larger than the bridge. Remember how the poor shot down a passenger plane over the Black Sea, the rocket redirected to a larger target and not to the target.

Ukrainians were able to sink the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet with their missiles

[navigator777]

A large target dangling in the sea is not difficult to hit. Moscow was a symbolic flagship, inferior in its capabilities to any modern NATO destroyer, the ship was 40 years old, and taking into account the construction and design, all 50. What do you want from this trough ...

[Disant]

Moscow was a symbolic flagship, inferior in its capabilities to any modern NATO destroyer, the ship was 40 years old, and taking into account the construction and design, all 50. What do you want from this trough ...

what does age have to do with it - it was necessary to cover the ship (duplicate) if the old native air defense system of the ship cannot work 24 hours a day.

[Aviator_]

what is the age here

Well, send the Aurora there. The benefits will be the same as from "Moscow".

[Disant]

Ukrainians were able to sink the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet with their missiles

so he was practically near the shore - why not.

[Pavel57]

Do Himars missiles have a homing head? Does the author not confuse with other missiles?

[certero]

Quote: navigator777

A large target dangling in the sea is not difficult to hit. Moscow was a symbolic flagship, inferior in its capabilities to any modern NATO destroyer, the ship was 40 years old, and taking into account the construction and design, all 50. What do you want from this trough ...

It used to be, but now it doesn't even exist. And you have to fence the land Thor on the deck.

[Samoha79]

You can make a corner out of cardboard and food foil and launch it from Moldova to Ukraine. For the Russian landing force, air defense reconnaissance