Drone production plant in Dubna near Moscow switches to work in three shifts

Factory of drones in Dubna, near Moscow, will soon switch to work in three shifts, the Kronstadt company continues to recruit personnel. This was announced by Deputy General Director Alexei Belykh.

The new plant will switch to work in three shifts to fulfill the received orders, the company's drones are actively used as part of a special military operation in Ukraine.

The new plant for the production of unmanned aerial vehicles will soon switch to a three-shift operation in order to fulfill the received orders. In this connection, the Kronstadt company continues to recruit

Belykh said.

Earlier, the Kronstadt company had already announced the expansion of production and the recruitment of additional personnel at two of its enterprises, one of which is located in Moscow, in the Tushino region, and the second in Dubna, near Moscow, where an entire UAV assembly plant was built. As reported, the company needs not only ordinary workers, but also engineering and technical personnel. As previously reported, the company has pilot production in Tushino, and serial production in Dubna.

The center for the production of large-sized unmanned aerial vehicles of aircraft and helicopter types in Dubna near Moscow opened on the 20th of December 2021. A single production zone with an area of ​​50 hectares accommodated the production facilities of the Kronstadt company itself, as well as the Dubna Machine-Building Plant (DMZ), which is part of the company's structure. UAVs themselves are assembled in the company's workshops, and ground control posts are assembled at the DMZ plant.

Comments

[Sergio_7]

This is of course good! But all this should have been done yesterday, or even the day before yesterday!

[faiver]

it is most likely that the claim should not be presented to the factory ....

[Turtle]

Factories organize work depending on the volume of orders - the main thing is timely informing about the increase in the plan.

[barclay]

Here we must be glad that in general such a plant was opened literally before the start of the NWO. The fact that the UAV is not enough is a fact. But the presence of such a production site makes it possible to develop and accelerate their production.

[Vlad1097]

In Russia, there are still productions of other drones Orlan 10 Orlan 30 Tipchak Eleron Eleron 3 Tachyon Tachyon 3 Granat 2 - 4 Zastava drums Outpost, but that's what is not there and it is not known whether this is an analogue of the American Global Hawk, our this type of drones is critically short of troops.

[vlad106]

The drone production plant in Dubna near Moscow will soon switch to three shifts, the Kronstadt company continues to recruit staff. This was announced by Deputy General Director Alexei Belykh.


barclay (Andrey)

Here we must be glad that in general such a plant was opened literally before the start of the NWO. The fact that the UAV is not enough is a fact.

It was necessary to launch this production 25-30 years ago.
By the way, this Belykh is not a relative of Nikita Belykh?
And further. Dishonest persons, as well as enemy agents, climb into leadership positions like cockroaches.
It is necessary to check up to the seventh knee so that all sorts of urgonts do not climb through ...
SMERSH is also needed here!

[vlad106]

And further. Dishonest persons, as well as enemy agents, climb into leadership positions like cockroaches.

Here, pay attention, minus)))))))))
It was the disguised enemy agents that, in particular, crawled into Voenoboz

[vlad106]

Quote: barclay

Drone production plant in Dubna near Moscow switches to work in three shifts

There should be a dozen such factories now, if not more.
Calibers are needed in thousands per month, Products 305 - tens of thousands!
Our children must be protected!

[Tusv]

Quote: Sergio_7

But all this should have been done yesterday, or even the day before yesterday!

In order for it to be yesterday, it was necessary to start development 25 years ago, and so that the day before yesterday it was not necessary to shelve developments half a century ago.
And so. How long ago did we buy the Outpost from Israel?

Quote from Topwar

In 2009, the Russian army acquired two Searcher II unmanned systems from the Israeli company IAI for study and experience.

Only 13 years and own mass production without foreign suppliers. This is very cool. This is not Bayraktar for you, which are essentially a screwdriver assembly around the airframe

[Shurik70]

Quote: Sergio_7

This is of course good! But all this should have been done yesterday

Well, yes. How can one not recall the "fast-fast hot-hot Finnish and Baltic guys"
Out of interest, I looked who was in charge of "Kronshtatom" there.
Andrey Zarafyants. Surname Fino-Ugric
So don't believe the anecdotes after that.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Shurik70

Andrey Zarafyants. Surname Fino-Ugric

What do you dislike about Finno-Ugric peoples? And the surname of the head of "Kronstadt" is Armenian.

[zurbagan63]

What do you dislike about Finno-Ugric peoples? And the surname of the head of "Kronstadt" is Armenian.

I have a Polish surname, but I myself am Russian. Miracles

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: zurbagan63

What do you dislike about Finno-Ugric peoples? And the surname of the head of "Kronstadt" is Armenian.

I have a Polish surname, but I myself am Russian. Miracles

My surname is Ukrainian, but I myself am Russian. And there are no miracles. Everything is simple and clear.

[vlad106]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote: Shurik70

Andrey Zarafyants. Surname Fino-Ugric

What do you dislike about Finno-Ugric peoples?

Hmmm ...
I remember how such a "Finno-Ugric" by the name of Osetryan destroyed the AZLK plant, having separated and sold the latest imported equipment with his fellow countrymen ...
And why hasn't he been prosecuted until now?
So they destroyed and destroyed the country!

[Xnumx vis]

And how do you like the names of Bagramyan, Mikoyan, Aivazovsky, Admiral of the Fleet of the USSR Ivan Isakov (birth name Hovhannes Ter-Isahakyan) Samvel Kocharyants - lieutenant general, designer, developer of the very first atomic and thermonuclear charges. Awarded six orders of Lenin, twice Hero of Socialist Labor.? BUT ? Yes, we now have a negative opinion about many Armenian merchants ... It's true. But let's remember how many of our Slavs sold their homeland, worse than these traders.

[vlad106]

30 vis (Yuri)

how many of our Slavs sold their homeland, worse than these traders.
Chubais, Gaidars, Shahrais, Shokhens, Avens, Kochs, as well as Trotskys, Sverdlovs, Tukhachs and others ...
what is their origin?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: vlad106

30 vis (Yuri)

how many of our Slavs sold their homeland, worse than these traders.
Chubais, Gaidars, Shahrais, Shokhens, Avens, Kochs, as well as Trotskys, Sverdlovs, Tukhachs and others ...
what is their origin?

Two of our Russians are enough for me, who outdid all the Avens and Berezovskys. - Gorbachev Mikhail Sergeevich and Yeltsin Boris Nikolaevich.

[vlad106]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote: vlad106

30 vis (Yuri)

how many of our Slavs sold their homeland, worse than these traders.
Chubais, Gaidars, Shahrais, Shokhens, Avens, Kochs, as well as Trotskys, Sverdlovs, Tukhachs and others ...
what is their origin?

Two of our Russians are enough for me, who outdid all the Avens and Berezovskys. - Gorbachev Mikhail Sergeevich and Yeltsin Boris Nikolaevich.

And Yeltsman's wife Naina Iosifovna (pure Russian)
And the humpbacked Rayka has a real name, patronymic and surname - Rakhil Maksudovna Titarenko ...
And wives have a very strong influence on their husbands, especially at night, in bed.
Stalin therefore gave his Aliluyeva a kick in the ass

[Xnumx vis]

To drag women here? At least five times Rachel, and ten times Sarah. Nonsense

[vlad106]

Quote: 30 vis

To drag women here?

What if the enemy is in a skirt, then you need to kiss her in the ass?
An enemy of whatever gender is sent to its destination

[gurzuf]

Do you like Yeltsin and his deeds?

[aslanxnumx]

It’s better not to remember about Admiral Isakov. Under him, all the failures of the Black Sea Fleet, the defense of Odessa.

[vlad106]

And how do you like the names of Bagramyan, Mikoyan, Aivazovsky, Admiral of the Fleet of the USSR Ivan Isakov (birth name Hovhannes Ter-Isahakyan) Samvel Kocharyants - lieutenant general, designer, developer of the very first atomic and thermonuclear charges. Awarded six orders of Lenin, twice Hero of Socialist Labor.? BUT ?


I wonder how many of these "heroes" are now participating in a special operation? At least one got out of the market and went?

[frog]

I remember how such a "Finno-Ugric" by the name of Osetryan destroyed the AZLK plant, having separated and sold the latest imported equipment with his fellow countrymen ...

There are a couple of points here....
Not only just .... "Finno-Ugrians" did this.
And they all did it because they were allowed to.
So if there are questions, then these are by no means in the first place.

[vlad106]

Not only just .... "Finno-Ugrians" did this.
And they all did it because they were allowed to.[i] [/ i]

Because a huge number of traders and swindlers climbed into power, including all sorts of "Fino-Ugrians" as they called it here.
And they can’t even be allowed close to power, because everyone will be sold.
And before that, they change their surnames and become "Slavs" for you

[frog]

Because a huge number of traders and swindlers climbed into power, including all sorts of "Fino-Ugrians" as they called it here.

Are you talking about the Central Committee of the CPSU? EMNIP, it all came from there ....

And they can’t even be allowed close to power, because everyone will be sold.

And who will take care of this God-pleasing work?

[vlad106]

The newly created SMERSH from decent fighters who participated in the NWO, at the forefront. It was from those who looked death in the eyes, including those who went beyond the front line. These are real men - not cowards and not jackals. Not those who sit in the offices of all sorts of battalion commanders, and even more so of the current corrupt law enforcement officers, investigators, and other "justices" with the current education and golden toilets, who pluck the common people, profit from any violations, including accidents. .. Tens and hundreds of thousands of innocent people toil in places not so remote, and real criminals who pay off for the loot are chic in freedom ...
It was SMERSH with fighters, approximately the same as the fighters of Marshal Zhukov, who put things in order in Odessa. it is they who will put things in order and put corrupt "law enforcers" in their place, free the country from this cancer that has metastasized to all structures.
And I know a lot of decent guys who work at 404.
Now I will be downvoted by those who are against being pulled out of the baited feeders by the collar!
I think the special services need to pay attention to those who will now press the negative key, since it will be the enemies that will be against it! And corrupt

[frog]

Wow..... What a heat....

The newly created SMERSH from decent fighters who participated in the NWO, at the forefront. It was from those who looked death in the eyes, including those who went beyond the front line. These are real men - not cowards and not jackals.

Let's start with the fact that "countering" is such a profession. What a learn... Quite a long time, generally speaking. There is not enough courage and decency alone, although they also happen there ...
And so, "on the front line" every nation happens and they behave to themselves .... in different ways. It is there that they conduct it this way, in other places - that's how it is. For those who are very nervous, I can notice that I’m not trying to somehow discredit and all that Just people - they are different ... in different circumstances ...

It was SMERSH with fighters, approximately the same as the fighters of Marshal Zhukov, who put things in order in Odessa.

This tale, as well as about that very story, and about "order", especially in Odessa-mother, you need to tell in another place .....
Well, specialists have a lot of other things to do than to read and respond to the lamentations of couch warriors, patriots, liberals ...... fishing, let it be)) and other statements of plankton, which require absolutely everything. And for the rest - gingerbread ..

[Sergei Zagorsky]

Not Osetryan. Asatryan. His son, 10 years ago, was the director of the Zagorsk Mechanical Plant, which was also successfully closed under him.

[vlad106]

[quote = Sergey Zagorsky] Not Osetryan. Asatryan. His son, 10 years ago, was the director of the Zagorsk Mechanical Plant, which was also successfully closed under him. [/ Quote]

Well, if there was also his son...
Surely a Chubai sidekick, then definitely followed in the footsteps of his "Finno-Ugric" godfather and destroyed and sold the plant!
So the FSB should also deal with Him, and their colleagues with the godfather

[Tusv]

Quote: Shurik70

Well, yes. How can one not recall the "fast-fast hot-hot Finnish and Baltic guys"

Shurik. What did we have? Never mind. This is not bubble gum for you. Aircraft electric motors from scratch, protected control channels from scratch. No, there was something. Good optics, but heavy that you can’t even hang a grenade, TsAGI to develop a good airframe and that’s all

[Cut Samshitov]

. Andrey Zarafyants. Surname Fino-Ugric

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[Andy_nsk]

Well, yes. How can one not recall the "fast-fast hot-hot Finnish and Baltic guys"
Out of interest, I looked who was in charge of "Kronshtatom" there.
Andrey Zarafyants. Surname Fino-Ugric

I think in this situation it is necessary to take an interest in the nationality of the employees of the Ministry of Defense. For example, are Tuvans smart?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from Andy_nsk

I think in this situation it is necessary to take an interest in the nationality of the employees of the Ministry of Defense. For example, are Tuvans smart?

Do you offer to measure skulls? Like Adolf Schilkgruber?

[Andy_nsk]

I propose not to turn the arrows on the workers of the plant: until there is an order from the Ministry of Defense, no one will be engaged in the production of weapons, and the Ministry of Defense has clearly overslept the timely development and serial production of UAVs.

[Xnumx vis]

Here ! Words not of a boy, but of a husband. And then the Tuvans ... I also do not like the slowness and lack of promptness of the Ministry of Defense. Too many jambs, not only with drones. With the fleet, too, in particular the Black Sea Fleet. Construction of unnecessary ships, etc.

[vlad106]

[quote = 30 vis] Do you offer to measure the skulls? Like Adolf Schilkgruber [/ quote]

Why bother with circles...
Look at the palaces that are being built and everything immediately becomes clear - where does such money come from!
See also: "By THEM you will know"

[vlad106]

Quote: vlad106

"By THEM you will know"

I propose to the counterintelligence of Voenoboz to see who put a minus - so he burned himself, either stole the people's property, or an agent of the West. There are enough of them on the forum) Take it by the udder until it fades

[Dedok]

Quote: Tusv

Only 13 years and own mass production without foreign suppliers.

where such confidence? from reports on import substitution?
or from the postulate of a single economic zone, with China??

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Dedok

Quote: Tusv

Only 13 years and own mass production without foreign suppliers.

where such confidence? from reports on import substitution?
or from the postulate of a single economic zone, with China??

Ага.
All engines are foreign, Sony and Canon optics, and in the form of ready-made devices like Mark.

[vlad106]

Quote: SovAr238A

foreign engines, Sony and Canon optics, and in the form of ready-made devices like Mark.

M-yes!
What, they cannot use the engine from Oka, VAZ?
And the Soviet optics were excellent, no worse than Zeiss - Helios, Industar, etc.
Over these 30 years, they could improve, not destroy the industry

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Tusv

Quote: Sergio_7

But all this should have been done yesterday, or even the day before yesterday!

In order for it to be yesterday, it was necessary to start development 25 years ago, and so that the day before yesterday it was not necessary to shelve developments half a century ago.
And so. How long ago did we buy the Outpost from Israel?

Quote from Topwar

In 2009, the Russian army acquired two Searcher II unmanned systems from the Israeli company IAI for study and experience.

Only 13 years and own mass production without foreign suppliers. This is very cool. This is not Bayraktar for you, which are essentially a screwdriver assembly around the airframe

I think they thought more about how to cut the dough from the developers, or be co-authors, that's why the Servers bought it. trend, however.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: SKVichyakow

I think they thought more about how to cut the dough from the developers, or be co-authors, that's why the Servers bought it. The trend, however

They bought it because at that time the domestic military-industrial complex, as the latest and only UAV, supplied the army with a slightly shaman product developed in the late 80s - a radius of 70 km, 3 hours of flight, a line TV camera, and 6 UAVs - 4 Kamaz.
14 years ago, with the UAV, we had not just a fifth point, but a complete polar fox. But the military-industrial complex suited everything - and they will take it, there is still no other; if you want newer - give money for R & D, and we will do something in ten years. And then the furniture maker came and spoiled all the raspberries.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Alexey RA

Quote: SKVichyakow

I think they thought more about how to cut the dough from the developers, or be co-authors, that's why the Servers bought it. The trend, however

And then the furniture maker came and spoiled all the raspberries.

I think the furniture maker opened Pandora's box in general, and with him, not streams, rivers, flowed anymore. Even with the Mistrals, apparently he had something, since being under investigation, he flew incognito to France, shaking it clearly.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: SKVichyakow

I think the furniture maker opened Pandora's box in general, and with him, not streams, rivers, flowed anymore.

Oh, come on - he just took away from the domestic monopolists the budget pie that had long been divided by them. For this he was disliked. He destroyed the cozy little world of the military-industrial complex, in which monopolists sold products of the last century under the guise of unparalleled, and for the money of the present century. For years, R&D was carried out, the output of which was either mock-ups or miraculous Yudo prototypes. And also for years they scored to eliminate shortcomings. And what - there are still no competitors, they will still buy it.

Quote: SKVichyakow

Even with the Mistrals, apparently he had something, since being under investigation, he flew incognito to France, shaking it clearly.

Do you really believe that the Minister of Defense decided something on the issue of purchasing the two largest ships of the Russian fleet in a NATO country? The "Mistrals" were a purely political order - France's payment for its position on 08.08.08, when Sarkozy closed all mediation in achieving peace and delayed the start of negotiations, in fact giving the RF Armed Forces time to defeat the Georgian army. And a completely different person decided everything in this matter.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Tusv

Quote from Topwar

In 2009, the Russian army acquired two Searcher II unmanned systems from the Israeli company IAI for study and experience.

Only 13 years and own mass production without foreign suppliers. This is very cool. This is not Bayraktar for you, which are essentially a screwdriver assembly around the airframe

Just 13 years?
We bought in 2009 to study the 1998 devices, which were not just outdated. but it's just rubbish. for it is a modernization of an even more advanced first Sercher, which is the 90th year.
Modern UAVs change "generations" (control systems, optics, materials and components) and application concepts, approximately every 10 years.
Accordingly, studying one of the first UAVs as a starting point, and on its concept and its capabilities, as well as adjusting our industry to an already outdated UAV, we design and start a UAV manufacturer at the level of those very 90s.
And Bayraktar is the 2010 generation ... It is 3 generations more modern than Outpost / Searcher.

How do you twist everything upside down.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: SovAr238A

We bought in 2009 to study the 1998 devices, which were not just outdated. but it's just rubbish. for it is a modernization of an even more advanced first Sercher, which is the 90th year.

Just one word - "Tipchak". At the time of the purchase of "Sercher" this plant originally from the 80s was the best example of domestic UAVs and the only one that our industry could produce.
That is, in 2009 we managed to lag behind a generation even from the ancient first "Searcher".

[Volkof]

They couldn't do it yesterday!
The problem is with the engine, with aircraft systems, with the development of a navigation and weapons complex and the guided and conventional munitions themselves.
The main plant was launched only at the end of 2021. Prior to that, all "Orions" for the aircraft were produced at a pilot plant. The first Orion complex, consisting of 3 vehicles, was adopted by the Ministry of Defense in April 2020, before that there were only tests in Syria. In 2021 alone, the Russian Armed Forces were supposed to receive 90 Orion UAVs ... Well, where are they? Given the combat radius of 250 km, is it possible to control the entire territory of the special operation?! Orion can transmit real-time coordinates of targets around the clock, it has a laser designator on board! In addition, the Armed Forces are armed with several dozen Forpost-R UAVs .... Why is the entire combat area not controlled? Means, it's not the UAV... There are no systems that receive information from UAVs and transmit coordinates to the guidance systems of self-propelled guns or MLRS, missiles! This is the well-known ESU TK, which does not exist ...A business not in UAVs, but in the inability to use information from them, in the absence of systems and channels of communication and control... "Forward" army in the ass ?! Everything is there, even enough UAVs, but she does not know how to use them, or rather use information from them and target designation in real time. And weapons systems are there for that. For this, it is necessary to tear off the heads of these "geniuses" in the military leadership ... And they hang medals and stars for themselves ...

[svoit]

Quote: Volkof

In 2021 alone, the Russian Armed Forces were to receive 90 Orion UAVs

At least the director of Kronstadt promised only 6 or 7 complexes of 3 UAVs, that is, no more than 21 pieces

[Volkof]

I quoted Borisov, is he responsible for his words? There were boards in Syria, a certain amount was produced in 2020, and the serial plant is already operating in 2022 ...

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Volkof

I quoted Borisov, is he responsible for his words? There were boards in Syria, a certain amount was produced in 2020, and the serial plant is already operating in 2022 ...

Borisov is never responsible for his words.
None of Borisov's statements have ever been true.
And never at the right time did not correspond to reality.

This is a kind of character who tells lies all the time.
Why is he in government?
It is not known, apparently just for a special role.

[AlOrg]

I especially remember the speech about the bully complex, which, apparently, he came up with half a kick

[Alexey RA]

Quote: SovAr238A

This is a kind of character who tells lies all the time.
Why is he in government?
It is not known, apparently just for a special role.

Artifact of Truth. ©

[Volkof]

To do nothing, they started a campaign to glorify shock UAVs! He does everything himself, and no network-centric systems are needed! What can an UAV with a bomb of 25 kg or even 50 kg? That's funny ! True, they began developing missiles based on the Whirlwinds ... But if you transfer the coordinates or highlight the target, you can hit the Krasnopol accurate projectile or the MLRS projectile, or the Iskander if necessary. You can direct missiles launched from airplanes or helicopters, but this requires a system !!! Need to do it! Why bother with "geniuses" ?! They even hang 30 kg bombs on Orllan-7 .... These are our "military commanders" ... down to earth ... But in order not to hit our troops, you still need a system, you need to coordinate actions ...

[Myths]

Here, right to the point, a system is needed and general communication is possible with a connection to satellites and some kind of alternative, plus a little independence of the UAV in case of loss of control, so as not to depend on the jammer. Small UAVs are also needed, their infantry is not enough.

[Neige Lobof]

Such a system can be implemented very quickly. The Yandex company could handle the software in a couple of months. It is essentially a large computer game with coded interfaces. You can implement this on the android version for any soldier on the tablet. To do this, you need to shovel the android code, remove all backdoors, implement interfaces and start up servers and mobile repeaters.

[Alexey RA]

Quote from Neige Lobof

Such a system can be implemented very quickly.

Technically yes. But it will take a long time to implement it, persistently and with great difficulty. Because frames...

Resources were offered to a variety of units, from Novoazovsk to Lugansk. And in some places the results were and are. The same closed radio communication was successfully introduced into the 4th Motorized Rifle Brigade, based on the personnel that came there from the Ghost, they began to distribute it to the zone of responsibility of the 7th Motorized Rifle Brigade, in the DPR they began to deploy a DMR radio network in one place, but ... for the most part people just didn't need it. And the most unnecessary thing for them was not even walkie-talkies or optics, or quadrocopters, but the most unnecessary thing for them was the need to work hard to ensure the result of applying all this. To educate personnel, to create a "generator of personnel".

© Murz
And it’s not a fact that this introduction will again not be reduced to an “A4 format army”. When everything is fine in the reports, but in fact the equipment has been delivered to the warehouse, and in the connection there is one indicative unit in case of particularly corrosive inspectors who do not have enough papers.

[Volkof]

Everything is even easier. It is possible to make a working link to control a positional area (about 80 km in radius) in a month. There is everything for this.
But they know how to weave a routine and build a global nonsense, imitating pi_ndos. Here you can read, and for everyone who is not in the subject, how not to do it:
https://antimiles.ru/viticulture/edinaya-sistema-upravleniya-takticheskogo-zvena-vs-rf-esu-tz-sistemnye.html
As long as people like Gerasimov sit on top, nothing will happen. They don’t even have a concept for creating such systems ... Moreover, they are a system for conducting combat operations ESU TK (Unified Tactical Control System), changed on ESUV (Unified Troop Control System) to collect information for headquarters and transmit empty orders ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Volkof

Everything is even easier. It is possible to make a working link to control a positional area (about 80 km in radius) in a month. There is everything for this.

So am I about it. The technique is there. There is experience in creating such structures and even their combat use. But the army of A4 format does not need this: the tops have enough bravura reports on the implementation of the latest instructions, strict compliance and steady growth, and the bottom, after compiling all these reports, has neither the time nor the desire to engage in more practice and stuff bumps on it. It's easier to make another report.

[stankow]

Such a system cannot be done in two months. And you can not debug even in two years. And they don't do it on android. This is not a game and Yandex developers specialize in a completely different area. And vyi, in what area the professional?

[Dedok]

Quote from Mitos

you need a system and general communication, possibly with a connection to satellites

about our connection in the troops: https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5421294

[runway-1]

Do not sprinkle salt on the wounds ...

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Maybe you yourself ... in military leaders? BUT? I am sure that with your arrival the Sun will shine brighter, the sky will become bluer, the women will be more beautiful and in general all problems will be solved by themselves. Do you know how criticism differs from criticism? Maybe the number of exclamation points per message?

[bayard]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

women are prettier

To make a woman more beautiful, you need either vodka, or just make a woman happy.
I think when Victory finally comes, our women will become SO prettier ...

[bayard]

Quote: Volkof

What can an UAV with a bomb of 25 kg or even 50 kg? That's funny !

Actually 50 kg. , this is the weight of a 152 mm caliber projectile.
And 25 kg. , this is the weight of the projectile 122 mm.
And if those, immediately after the target is detected, will definitely fall into the accumulation of manpower, the dugout, on armored vehicles (for an easy and direct hit, it’s not necessary, they will riddle with shrapnel, turn over, razuyut.
So there is little funny in such ammunition. And useful . This, by the way, is the normal weight of air bombs for front-line bombers, attack aircraft and WWII fighters. And if there are rockets or planning bombs? In order not to fly over the target?
In counter-battery combat, the time to react and cover the salvo after the target is detected is of great importance. And any guided missile or missile operating on target designation from an UAV costs no more than a missile for such an UAV ... perhaps it will even be cheaper.
But for this, such UAVs must be in the troops, be in sufficient numbers, and their calculations should be able to use them skillfully. And this takes time ... They are late for the war.
Therefore, bombs began to cling to the "Orlans" and "Outposts" - to destroy the target immediately after detection - it's worth a lot. It is always desirable to hit the dugout hole or trench exactly in real time. If the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation had such UAVs on the eve of the "special operation", even if they were Chinese (and they have them and they export), even Turkish (and it’s not shameful after the supply of S-400), the course of the special operation itself would have gone completely differently, the fighting in Mariupol ended earlier and with much less losses for us and for civilians. And for the operation of such reconnaissance and strike systems, artillery, MLRS or tactical missile systems are not always needed at all. They themselves will work out many tasks in "one window". And a large / group target will appear, they will indicate it with artillery, and illuminate it with a laser for aviation or the same Krasnopol.

Quote: Volkof

They even hang 30 kg bombs on Orllan-7 .... These are our "military commanders" ... down to earth ..

And when even adapted Nazi quadrics (cargo \ mail) are thrown at you "by the scruff of the neck", they throw several bombs at a time, you willy-nilly want something like that. And this is most likely "army ingenuity" thanks to the "Kulibins" on the ground, and not the "military commanders" from high headquarters.
And why all this was not in the troops, to this day, you ask the Supreme High Command. The troops did not have a lot of things. And this is laziness, deliberate sabotage or official discrepancy due to mental insufficiency, let him ask his subordinates.
At least once .
Not from shooters!
... How is it, the Ministry of Defense bought quadrocopters for infantry units, artillery batteries and mortar crews in China? Are the troops already fully packed with reconnaissance and situational awareness equipment, communications equipment, thermal imagers and sniper scopes with good magnification and aperture ratio?
If, at least by the end of the year, attack drones go to the troops in commercial quantities and in full configuration, this will be a great boon and will bring victory very seriously.
In the meantime, I would have ordered a UAV a long time ago, incl. drums, in China... Why isn't it done? After all, they sell them all over the world right and left? Too lazy to send a ministerial official to China with a suitcase of yuan\dollars\euro\rubles? So that, if there are no ready-made ones, to outbid someone else's order with a premium?
Or is Konashenkov "the smartest" in the Moscow Region and, in principle, there is no one to send?
Or is there only a tender for 5 years, they know how to arrange? Without result , but with development ?
And if you can’t buy in China, because they ... don’t want to violate sanctions , then send messengers with cash to Iran - they also know how to attack UAVs! And to Belarus for sights and thermal imagers !!
And quadrics are like that in general - every week they have to bring fresh ones by plane, because in a war a thing is consumable.
And not forums ... summits and feasts during ... wars, roll up.
No, you can feast, just bring everything you need to the front ... and you can feast.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: bayard

Therefore, bombs began to cling to the "Orlans" and "Outposts" - to destroy the target immediately after detection - it's worth a lot. It is always desirable to hit the dugout hole or trench exactly in real time.

To do this, you do not need to hang iron bombs on the UAV. The artillery battalion still has more shells than strike drones on the entire front. Attack "Orlans" and "Outposts" are a profanity designed to hide the failure in working out the interaction between artillery and reconnaissance UAVs.

For real-time defeats the forces and means already available in the army are quite enough. Only three things are needed: to equip the units with equipment according to the state, to really teach personnel how to handle the equipment entrusted to them, and in practice to work out the interaction of structures. And not as always: the equipment did not reach the units or was handed over to the warehouse in order to avoid loss, gunners study according to their program at their training ground (studied up and down, so that the data for firing is recalculated quickly), UAV operators - in their own way and on their own ( or in general in classes), in theory they interact, but in fact they don’t understand each other, and when they get into an unfamiliar area, they look at it as a new gate.

This is how the destruction of targets in real time looks like in practice - without strike UAVs, using only budget quadrics.

For a whole daylight hours, changing one battery after another, the Mavik combed the battlefield, aiming mortars and infantry group weapons at the AFU troops hiding in auxiliary positions.

"He lies in the trench, I see him. Pull back, pull back, we'll work it out now."

And the 120th mine flew. And then another and another, until the commander in charge of the battle considered the approach of the infantry to the next target safe enough.

© slanderer and slander Murz

[Volkof]

Everything seems to be correct, but from the point of view, sorry for the frankness, a 7th grade student...
Today, a special operation is underway, where a backward army with modern weapons is fighting a backward army without weapons ... Paradox, the weapons are modern, but the conditions for its use have not been created - there is no real-time target designation and there are no systems for this, although there are means for target designation! This can only be with Gerasimov and his General Staff ... This is a diagnosis.
And tomorrow, maybe you will have to fight with pi_ndos ... And you can do a lot and quickly, and the forum is on fire, because they don’t do anything from above, they don’t know how to do it, and they don’t even know what to do .., and they don’t want anything do, they have some success!

[Nikolai Ivanov_ap]

The 25 kg bomb is a high-explosive fragmentation projectile from the D-30 howitzer. 50 kg bomb is a high-explosive fragmentation projectile from the D-20/MSTA. This is a fairly serious argument against lightly armored vehicles and manpower.
But I agree, there should be at least 4 such shells, and preferably six. Otherwise, the cost of a flight does not fit in with combat effectiveness.

[Volkof]

All fields are sown with shells around the trenches, and in the trenches they are frightened, but alive svidomity ! To hit accurately, the bomb must be aimed at least along the laser beam! 25kg or even 50kg with rudders and a guidance head and a calculator still needs to be done, and there will be less explosives! What nonsense are you talking about?!

[opuonmed]

all hope is that they will recognize the mistakes and correct everything!

[SovAr238A]

Quote: opuonmed

all hope is that they will recognize the mistakes and correct everything!

Only if they lose.
"Debriefing" with the identification of causes - always takes place in case of defeat.
With victories, only parades, salutes and honoring the winners always take place.

So think for yourself.
What needs to be done to make the army relevant ...
because I see something in both options is not what I want.
And what I want - "does not happen." Victory with debriefing and punishment of "guilty of systemic errors" has never been in the history of military affairs.

[navigator777]

Shock should be built, which can immediately strike at the identified targets, and not wait for the military to swing. We don't have aviation.

[Turtle]

You need to build the whole spectrum, but attack UAVs are an expensive toy. With all due respect to your opinion, but it's faster and more efficient to sculpt "kamikaze drones" like a "switchblade". It is a difficult task to create an effective unmanned reconnaissance gunner, inconspicuous, with stable communication with the operator and artillery, capable of withstanding electronic warfare.

[opuonmed]

it is necessary to build a complex and reconnaissance and shock and kamikaze, and so that the soldiers also have current for small groups! otherwise it will be a big omission! a reconnaissance drone leads a column or finds artillery there directs an attack drone strikes with missiles! behind enemy lines, catching an elusive art just right! communication with drones via satellites online! more or less like this ))

[Alexander Salenko]

Honestly, I’m already tired of talking at VO, but why do planes buzz over my head every night? This is in the Crimea, I called a friend in Belgorod, the same thing.

[skeptic]

Quote: Volkof

.It's not about UAVs, but about not being able to use information from them, in the absence of systems and channels of communication and control ... "Forward" army in the ass ?!

Well, not for nothing, the Americans hung medals for themselves, "For victory in the cold war." They are aware of our problems, and therefore the artillery systems are sent to Ukraine, without adjustment units. And Starlink shows that all of our electronic warfare is very far from perfect.
I believe that we will solve these problems, as always, in a non-trivial way. The "sluggish" special operation, as a dress rehearsal in opposition to the West (thank God), abandoned the rapid breakthroughs. Although in an emergency mode, the necessary tools are now being adjusted in the fight against the military structure of NATO.

[Vlad1097]

Ours has a slow advance, since there are not enough forces for a fast one, plus the Armed Forces of Ukraine have mined a lot of territory and also created several thousand DRGs for ambushes.

[vlad106]

It is necessary to restore radio electronics, without it anywhere!

[Andrey Stavropolsky]

So what? Isn't it in demand? Total whining.

[TermNachTer]

He was supposed to switch to three shifts, without days off and holidays, on February 25th.

[antivirus]

More intensive - in 4 shifts of 6 hours.
Like miners

[TermNachTer]

I did not know that miners had such a schedule. But, in general, right.

[antivirus]

I don't know how it is now.
4 to 6 hours
IVS suggested.
And somewhere they tried.

[Mordvin 3]

[quote=antivirus] Like miners[

[Serg65]

Quote: TermNachTER

He was supposed to switch to three shifts, without days off and holidays, on February 25th.

We have 3 million unemployed, but to find workers for 3 shifts ... at least for one plant, this is oh what a problem !!!

[Ka-52]

We have 3 million unemployed, but to find workers for 3 shifts ... at least for one plant, this is oh what a problem !!!

do all 3 million live in Dubna near Moscow (with a population of only 70 thousand people)? And all 3 million are qualified to assemble high-tech aircraft?

[Serg65]

Welcome Andrew!

Quote: Ka-52

all 3 million live in Dubna near Moscow

No, of course, not all 3 million, but one-seventh for sure ... within a radius of 40 kilometers, that's for sure! I myself know one comrade, unemployed, with a higher technical education, who lives just in this radius ... but he will not go to Dubna to work just because Dubna should be three steps from his entrance!

[Ka-52]

.but he will not go to Dubna to work just because Dubna should be three steps from his entrance!

hello, Sergey
that's it)) I have a friend like that - both experience and education, I call to myself, work in bulk. But he: "where will I go, old already, family, cottage with tomatoes" and is interrupted by part-time jobs

[your1970]

Quote: Serg65

We have 3 million unemployed

Of these 3 - at least 2, 5 work in black.
A friend's husband is a sailor - to go on a voyage for 4-6 months and to the stock exchange - for an inter-voyage time (2-3 months).
LEGALLY at this moment he is unemployed, but he will not go to work

[TermNachTer]

With a good salary, there will be workers. The main thing is that the qualifications correspond.

[Serg65]

Quote: TermNachTER

The main thing is that the qualifications correspond.

Citizens with qualifications ..... this is a problem!

[TermNachTer]

Alas, this is a global problem.

[vlad106]

Quote: Serg65

Citizens with qualifications ..... this is a problem!

Asians do not need to be recruited for skilled work and there will be no problems ..

[Serg65]

Quote: vlad106

Asians do not need to be recruited

And who to recruit? Are you going to the plant in person?

[Alexander Salenko]

It should, but the article says that recruitment is underway, and this is not a quick business, the techies and vocational schools were closed at one time, everyone was rushing to become lawyers and economists.
Again, the question is salary, at our Fiolent plant in Simferopol, a young employee is paid up to 25 rubles, depending on who you work with, and this is dirty, and this is a plant that worked at full speed under the USSR for the defense industry. We have a quarter of the city probably passed through it at one time, only in my family three people worked on it.

[bashkir]

Postulate 1. This is good.
Postulate 2. If You did not do it yesterday and the day before yesterday, then no one did it yesterday and the day before yesterday.
Postulate 3. If you want to run into those who did not fulfill postulate 2, return to postulate 2. Otherwise
Postulate 4. Make it yourself. Or Postulate 1.

[Tusv]

Quote: Bashkir

Postulate 1

Well, these are not postulates, but solid axioms

[bashkir]

Postulate = axiom. For this statement is accepted on faith, without proof, except for theorems, whose essence follows from the axioms by the smooth flow of thought

[fruc]

I hope that the Kalibr and Iskander missiles will also arrive at the troops on time and in the right amount.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: Sergio_7

But all this should have been done yesterday, or even the day before yesterday!

Right now! You can't do without a roasted rooster. This is our national identity.

[skeptic]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Right now! You can't do without a roasted rooster. This is our national identity.

There is one, the main plus in NWO. It is better to get clicks on the nose in Ukraine and work out countermeasures than to get involved immediately, in confrontation, with all of NATO "without acclimatization."

[Alexander Salenko]

Why only ours? The West pumped up Ukraine with promises, trained troops, pushed Ukraine openly to war, and now it is frantically looking for weapons.

[Vlad1097]

The West has more than enough weapons to re-equip the entire army of Ukraine dozens of times; the only thing he can’t do is replace the lost personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Alexander Salenko]

So what are we talking about, the main part of the weapon, the head of its owner. Do you remember that funny Arab wedding when you fired it up and cut off all the electricity? They know how to pull the trigger, so what to do with such people?

[vlad106]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Right now! You can't do without a roasted rooster. This is our national identity.

All problems are a feature of the thieves' bureaucracy.
Even worse. Chubaitsovsky, or in general espionage

[alystan]

The main thing is not this. How is the situation with accessories?
Probably the issue has been resolved, since production in 3 shifts (24/24) is being launched!
And it will be just great, taking into account all the Western sanctions on high-tech products!
Here, American intelligence announced some kind of help from China ...
At the same time, Volga-Dnepr made three flights from China to Russia...
And all this coincides with the transfer of the production of drones in Dubna near Moscow to round-the-clock work!
Just a coincidence or...

[Vlad1097]

Russia buys components from China, mainly microelectronic components, and the same from Malaysia.

[Zaurbek]

Maybe there was no technical possibility for this ..... But it’s quite possible to buy something imported, as they did with the outpost .... And there should already be thousands of outposts.

[Leshak]

The news is great in every way. This is a very necessary increase in the number of UAVs produced, as well as the creation of jobs, which is also not unimportant for Russia. As long as the quality of the final product does not suffer.

[dmi.pris1]

Actually, I thought that he had been working like this since the beginning of the year ..

[tralflot1832]

I shoveled their website on June 8, 350 workers were hired at the plant in Dubna. I don’t know a lot or a little.

[Tusv]

Quote: tralflot1832

I shoveled their website on June 8, 350 workers were hired at the plant in Dubna. I don’t know a lot or a little.

When I was studying, for the summer my dad took me as a simple adjuster - a puncher on a ball bearing. You have 30 machines. Somehow I managed to launch 22. (usually 15) So the rector's office fired me, through the chief engineer. Need to learn. What is 1 machine? 5 ball stamping cassettes, 250 kg per shift. We consider how many balls can be produced by qualified workers with 15-22 machines per snout

[tralflot1832]

Since you are aware of the production of ball bearings, can you explain how the ideal balls for large diameter bearings are made?

[Tusv]

Quote: tralflot1832

can you explain how the ideal balls for large diameter bearings are made?

I only know AB class and not any bourgeois. Exclusively Soviet development of such machines. More than 30 bars according to the norms of 1987 cannot be processed. Over a diameter of 4 inches, the Vologda GPP did not make serially. Forge only forged limited editions to order

[vlad106]

Quote: Tusv

for the summer, my dad took me as a simple adjuster - a puncher on a ball bearing. You have 30 machines.

And right now, probably almost all the gas processing plants have been destroyed?
They even dumped SKF, what are we doing interesting? Or we still buy Chinese bullshit

[Alexander Salenko]

Well, since there is a set, it means not enough.

[Andy_nsk]

I shoveled their website on June 8, 350 workers were hired at the plant in Dubna. I don’t know a lot or a little.

I think it's not enough! If they already employed at least a thousand people. It is possible to organize a good serial production in three shifts. Russians harness for a long time, but they ride fast!

[FemiA]

Surprised at the level of published detail about not only the location but the layout of such a strategic defense infrastructure. Only the GPS coordinates are left out!

[Krasnodar]

Every foreign intelligence service knows it, so it's information for inner customers)).

[Third district]

It would be interesting to know how fast the assembly is going on, how many devices are made per day. Unless, of course, it's not a military secret.

[svoit]

Quote: Third District

It would be interesting to know at what pace the assembly is going on,

The plant is large and even two, I would like to hope for at least a set of 6 pacers plus a control station per week

[Turtle]

I doubt very much that such a thing can be assembled and debugged "from scratch" in a month, but by increasing the number of shifts, machines and specialists ... It's not about the assembly speed, but about the number of products simultaneously in the process and the availability of materials and parts coming from partner factories.

[alexmach]

I doubt very much that such a thing can be assembled and debugged "from scratch" in a month

In the presence of a customized conveyor production, for which the plant was built on the idea and a sufficient number of components? Why not? In the USSR, aircraft were built at such a pace.

[Andy_nsk]

The plant is large and even two, I would like to hope for at least a set of 6 pacers plus a control station per week

It seems to me that for a series at a plant operating in three shifts, it will not be enough.

[svoit]

Quote from Andy_nsk

working in three shifts, it will not be enough

Well, when it will be in three shifts, only on June 2 they announced an increase in the number of employees (probably by that time all the pacers had already been lost), until they train, while they rebuild logistics, I hope at least PI and PSI will be combined. There is no mobilization - so everything is done slowly

[alexmach]

This ... for 2021 it was stated that only 7-8 sets of pacers were planned, and not 6 but 3 apparatus each, and it is not clear whether this plan was fulfilled. This is of course without a new plant, of course there should be more with it ... but IMHO not so

[moscowp]

MOSCOW, 11 October. /TASS/. The plant for the production of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), which JSC Kronstadt will open in Dubna at the end of 2021, will be able to produce dozens of drones a year. This was announced in an interview with TASS by the company's CEO Sergey Bogatikov.

"The capacities of our plant in Dubna will allow annually produce dozens of drones. The entire line of our drones - Orions, Sirius, Helios, Thunders and unmanned helicopters will be produced there," he said.

Personally, it seems to me that for drones of this class, not quantity is more important, but quality and functionality. The main thing is that all those problems and difficulties that limit the use and value of the devices that we have heard about are solved. I hope that's the way it is.

[vlad106]

Quote: moscowp

Personally, it seems to me that for drones of this class, not quantity is more important, but quality and functionality.

Quantity, quality and functionality! Everything Important

[sgrabik]

The third district, for what purpose are you interested, are you by any chance an enemy spy ???

[vlad106]

On the military transport, they are completely wiped off. They sniff out. And they downvote if they don't like something...

[MMX]

If this news is ten years old, then it is undoubtedly good, even excellent!

[EMMM]

For the Kronstadt Group of Companies, drones used to be something like a hobby.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: EMMM

For the Kronstadt Group of Companies, drones used to be something like a hobby.

Exactly. And it is their initial competencies that are in demand in drones to a greater extent. The glider and engine are small. This means that designing them in large aircraft design bureaus is unprofitable. Moreover, all the money allocated for the drone is spread over a relatively large aircraft design bureau with all its overheads. There is nothing left for real performers. Exactly the same problem arose with the Poseidon. A whole “Ruby” took over him. The result was expected. Now "Poseidon" is called the system of combating corruption. What connection does Poseidon have with corruption? Don't know. Maybe black humor.
Summary: big things start small.

[sgrabik]

That's right, several private companies also deal with UAVs in the USA.

[Alien From]

What can I say, better late than never!

[gansales]

Quote: Alien From

What can I say, better late than never!

I also think so, the Russian economy is being rebuilt to a new level and militarily too! Money abroad almost never leaves .. There is where to invest !!!
There are also Calibers, Iskanders, etc. Work has gone! And gas processing and petrochemistry are gaining momentum ..
Enough already to drive raw materials The Army and Navy are our allies and there is only hope for them!

[Sergey Kuzmin]

Enough already to drive raw materials The Army and Navy are our allies and there is only hope for them!

Yes! Plus+++++!!! and it's time to end the oil trade. Only ready-made gasoline-kerosene-solar for export and for Russian rubles and at a price tag adequate to anti-Russian sanctions! By the way, they didn’t seem to impose sanctions on gasoline and kerosene ... only on oil ... well, to hell with them, not oil! Only finished product.

[gansales]

Quote: Sergey Kuzmin

Enough already to drive raw materials The Army and Navy are our allies and there is only hope for them!

Yes! Plus+++++!!! and it's time to end the oil trade. Only ready-made gasoline-kerosene-solar for export and for Russian rubles and at a price tag adequate to anti-Russian sanctions! By the way, they didn’t seem to impose sanctions on gasoline and kerosene ... only on oil ... well, to hell with them, not oil! Only finished product.

Well, oil and gas are not only energy carriers .. This is the chemical industry, etc. There is a chance that this is all under sanctions, we will begin to develop rapidly, just as agriculture has rushed forward .. Food security in Russia is at the highest level and there are still huge prospects .. We can feed the whole world with quality food, but not for free .. Thank you sanctions!!! Until the thunder breaks out, the man does not cross himself .. Thunder strikes the men !!!!!!!! We work

[SovAr238A]

Quote from gansales

.Food security in Russia is at the highest level and there are still huge prospects .. We can feed the whole world with quality food, but not for free .. Thanks to the sanctions !!! Until the thunder breaks out, the man does not cross himself .. Thunder struck the men !!!!!!!! We work

What are you talking about?
Leave your apartment for the store.
90% - vegetables and fruits are imported.
And onions and garlic, even Chinese ones.
Potatoes are no longer Russian.
And Egyptian.
Packaging, all packaging equipment - imported.

Go to a normal village.
All combines and tractors are either imported or with imported units by 80%.
Where "Magnit" and "Pyaterochka" appeared in the villages and district centers, they practically stopped growing vegetables and meat "for sale."
That is, if earlier in the fall they dug 100-150 sacks of potatoes, leaving themselves for food and livestock, and half for sale, now only for themselves and only at a minimum.
Growing your own meat is many times more expensive and expensive than buying it in a store.
And the people have completely stopped for several years, to grow something for sale.
And for sale - this is for those who are "urban".
Is the message clear or does it need to be explained?

All our meat and dairy agro-complexes are based on imported equipment.
Almost all broiler eggs in these agricultural complexes are imported.
All production of feed for the meat industry is based on imported equipment.
All automation is imported on this equipment.
The failure of any part on the cutting and packaging equipment, which is not in stock and which you cannot replace, completely stops the entire huge complex.
Which works like a conveyor.
Rather, it should work.
And when you do not have a spare part to ensure the efficiency of the cutting line, everything falls apart for you.
The whole complex.
And most importantly, you can’t always buy spare parts for gray imports in Turkey or China.
For such high-performance lines for 500 tons per day of the finished product are made piece by piece.
And everyone knows where and what line is and what spare part is needed somewhere.
And if in Turkey or India they ask the supplier for a spare part for those lines that have never been in these countries, but only in Russia, then no one can sell anything to anyone.
And this left gray import will not help.
90% of employees of grocery, vegetable bases, refrigerators, distribution centers of large food retail chains are all residents of Central Asia.
Which will easily and naturally be able to arrange sabotage coordinated in time, creating a total lack of products in the region.
For a couple of weeks.
And even more.
Our entire product system works on the principle of "turnover". Just-in-time.
They bring to the stores exactly as much as needed - 2 times a week.
Accordingly, suppliers also bring to distribution centers exactly 2 times a week.
Accordingly, local producers produce just enough finished products to ensure shipments exactly 2 times a week.
For our stocks of products in stores, distribution centers, etc. - this is about 3-4 days of consumption.
At once "spoil" the products at 3-4 distribution centers and such a region as the Samara region will be completely left without supplies.
And they will not be lucky from other regions, because they have exactly the same minimum, high-turnover reserves.
And if you suddenly "spoil" the 5-day supply of one region, then "pull out" it - it's very difficult. someone has to start extra production, extra forwarding, extra warehousing, extra logistics, etc. in a coordinated manner.
what the system does not provide.
And it's really scary.
And you are talking about some kind of food security.
We only have grain and water.
Bread and water.

[SovAr238A]

Uryakalkam don't like the truth?
Of course, it is written in the training manuals - to deny everything, our great one said, about the fact that food security is 100% ...
Gotta draw that line...
Have you been listening to Matvienko lately?
She talked about nails recently.
Here is now in confirmation of my words.
"MOSCOW, June 28. /TASS/. Speaker of the Federation Council Valentina Matvienko was surprised that in Russia now there is no domestic equipment for harvesting beets"

So which of us is lying?
you, uryakalki and cap-throwers, who in fact are people who do not know at all how our country lives and what is happening around.
I don't understand, do you live in some kind of isolation?
On the island?
Or in a separate room with internet?

[Osipov9391]

And what about excavators, bulldozers, road rollers, asphalt pavers and even small loaders?
Where is our technology?
Where is the Kovrov Excavator? Not bad, the latest modifications were worthwhile.
Where is the Kostroma Excavator? Draglines for mining, pile drivers, grabs. Very hardy. standing.
Yurga Machine-Building Plant is bankrupt. And this is not only mining equipment, but also pneumatic wheeled cranes, including for the military.
And where is the "Leningrad Excavator" that made skid steer loaders? Not bad.

PS

They still cannot make analogues or even produce spare parts for Ukrainian excavators "Atek" (former "Red Excavator", Kyiv) and pneumatic wheel cranes "Krayan" (former Plant of the January Uprising, Odessa)!
Only Chelyabinsk DECs somehow do it. And that's it.

[sgrabik]

Thanks to the market economy, as the liberals there used to say: the market will put everything in its place, how it put everything, we can see very well, by the way, in China there is still Gosplan and we can all see the difference between the economy of China and ours.

[vlad106]

Quote: SovAr238A

100% food security...
Gotta draw that line...
Have you been listening to Matvienko lately?
She talked about nails recently.
Here is now in confirmation of my words.
"MOSCOW, June 28. /TASS/. Speaker of the Federation Council Valentina Matvienko was surprised that in Russia now there is no domestic equipment for harvesting beets"

All right!
And again, as someone in favor of the state, will tell the truth, enemy minus agents-agents immediately appear ...
FSB must calculate the creatures.
YOU SAID THE CORRECT, NECESSARY WORDS FOR THE COUNTRY AND PEOPLE!
And you were immediately minus 4 snouts - a Trotskyist agent.

[gansales]

Stop whining liberals..Your time is up!!!!
Ours is advancing and the devil is not our brothers ...
I'm already tired of your whining since the late 80s
They also whined in newspapers, magazines and TV .. And the collapse of the great country of the USSR began! Everyone got hurt..
Now, again, do you want to fill up Russia with your bastards whining? No..

[composite]

Food security in Russia is at the highest level and there are still huge prospects ..

Enlighten yourself, Gansales Chepchikov)) :
https://newizv.ru/article/general/30-05-2022/ne-poseesh-ne-pozhnesh-glavnaya-problema-selskogo-hozyaystva-importnye-semena

seeds of the most common sugar beet, from which sugar is made, are only 3% in the country, the remaining 97% are bought in Europe.

We have only 15% of our own seed potatoes.
from 2009 to 2019, the share of imported seeds in the agro-industrial complex of Russia has increased significantly. Thus, for corn, the share of imports increased from 37% to 58%, for sunflower - from 53% to 73%, for sugar beet - from 50% to 98%.
In the best case scenario, you can reach the level of 30% of your seeds by 2025.
The main problem is not even finances, but the complete collapse of the seed industry.

[vlad106]

And where, by the way, is our seed fund, which Vavilov collected?

[vlad106]

[quote = Sergey Kuzmin] It's time to end the oil trade. Only ready-made gasoline-kerosene-solarium for export...[/ Quote]

You are right, Sergey!
And I noticed that 5 snouts minus you.
These five are XNUMX% Western agents, spies. Trotskyists!
Counterintelligence should track them down and take them by the udder

[DenVB]

Quote from gansales

Almost no money goes abroad

From today's other news:

Since July, the Bank of Russia has allowed individuals - residents of the Russian Federation to transfer abroad up to 1 million US dollars per month. This was reported by the press service of the regulator.

“From July 1, 2022, Russian resident individuals have the right, within a calendar month, to transfer from their account in a Russian bank to their account abroad or to another person no more than 1 million US dollars or the equivalent amount in another foreign currency”, - told the Central Bank.

The same threshold is set for individuals-residents of friendly countries. Previously, the limit was 150 thousand US dollars.

I'm thinking - this is about whom our Central Bank cares so much? What kind of individuals are these who will not be enough to transfer abroad 150 thousand dollars a month?

[cmax]

Quote: DenVB

Quote from gansales

Almost no money goes abroad

From today's other news:

Since July, the Bank of Russia has allowed individuals - residents of the Russian Federation to transfer abroad up to 1 million US dollars per month. This was reported by the press service of the regulator.

“From July 1, 2022, Russian resident individuals have the right, within a calendar month, to transfer from their account in a Russian bank to their account abroad or to another person no more than 1 million US dollars or the equivalent amount in another foreign currency”, - told the Central Bank.

The same threshold is set for individuals-residents of friendly countries. Previously, the limit was 150 thousand US dollars.

I'm thinking - this is about whom our Central Bank cares so much? What kind of individuals are these who will not be enough to transfer abroad 150 thousand dollars a month?

Someone else gave you a minus, I corrected it. I'm also interested here. The deputies and other "cream" of society have someone there.

[gansales]

Quote: cmax

Someone else gave you a minus, I corrected

Thank you, there are evil gangs here ..

Quote: cmax

The deputies and other "cream" of society have someone there.

There is a howl and their children are running ..
The robbery of the century These are all US sanctions .. They hope to blow up Russia from the inside with this .. well, well .. The people only make fun of the oligarchs and other thieves, as they are robbed in the West by depriving them of everything stolen ..))))
Keep it up sir!!!

Quote: DenVB

I'm thinking - this is about whom our Central Bank cares so much? What kind of individuals are these who will not be enough to transfer abroad 150 thousand dollars a month?

Well, liberda is released to Israel, etc. ..Let them get out of how they like to say "this country" .. There they will be taught to quickly love their homeland!

[vlad106]

Quote: DenVB

Who is our Central Bank so concerned about? What kind of individuals are they who transfer abroad 150 thousand dollars a month

Well, everything is clear with the central bank. As well as with heads financiers-economists.
Where is our SMERSH ...

[bulgaria_]

Hope is in the synergy of all branches and all branches of the army. If you have one leg lame, how fast can you move? Your president said today - harmony of body and soul. But he spoke far beyond that gaze. It is necessary to harmoniously develop Russia. So that they do not sell Chinese coal and oil at a discount. And you have to have children. at least 3 per family. And then everything will be fine for you. And we must get rid of inertia in strategic decisions.

[musketon64]

Quote from bulgaria_

So that they do not sell Chinese coal and oil at a discount.

This is a necessary measure in the current conditions. But for the EU and NATO countries in general, it's time to close this shop. Or barter for the goods we need. By the list. As we say - bash-on-bash.

[bulgaria_]

Here, barter, yes, only .... how can they believe in chips and other equipment

[gansales]

Decided to troll? I know such people, like they distort the language ..hehe
I remember one "special forces" from Gutemalla .. ha ha ha
Guys, don't be fooled .. This is a liber of pure water from the outskirts

[bulgaria_]

I am from Bulgaria and not Ukrainian, and not a liberal. All!

[Serg65]

Quote from bulgaria_

I am from Bulgaria and not Ukrainian, and not a liberal. All!

And why just in pure Russian???

[bulgaria_]

Hello Sergey, my Russian is "the purest". I don't have your irj in my keyboard. So I am Bulgarian. And he began to study Russian in the 3rd grade - this is 1979. Then he taught in a Russian school up to grade 10. Now, since 2014, I have been playing with Russians and Russian speakers in Tiberium Alliances. By the way - for this period it was necessary to teach at least cases. No, I didn't. In general, your grammar is very difficult for me.

[Alexander Salenko]

Mihan, I have recently registered here, although I have been reading the forum since 2013 and comments on it too, but I know that he is from Bulgaria, and there is another Bulgarian user here.

[gansales]

Quote: Alexander Salenko

Mihan, I have recently registered here, although I have been reading the forum since 2013 and comments on it too, but I know that he is from Bulgaria, and there is another Bulgarian user here.

Okay, I understand .. Let him live!

[Terenin]

Quote from bulgaria_

Hope in synergies

What if we succeed emergence
And the economy is torn to shreds, and the dollar is 200 rubles each, and the rockets are over, and the whole color of the intelligentsia (stinky) has fled, and sanctions have been imposed by tens of thousands, and the country has been isolated ... and, as a result ... there will be more inscriptions in Russian (and not only) at the Reichstag.

[vlad106]

Quote: Terenin

the whole color of the intelligentsia (stinky) fled, and tens of thousands of sanctions were imposed, and the country was isolated ... and, as a result ... there will be regular inscriptions in Russian (and not only) on the Reichstag.

This is wonderful!
The Vanyuchu intelligentsia should be crushed a long time ago so that they are not on TV and in general in all media.
It's time to clean up the TV shows and their management...
One Ernest is worth something. Who is keeping it there?

[Terenin]

Quote: vlad106

Quote: Terenin

the whole color of the intelligentsia (stinky) fled, and tens of thousands of sanctions were imposed, and the country was isolated ... and, as a result ... there will be regular inscriptions in Russian (and not only) on the Reichstag.

This is wonderful!
The Vanyuchu intelligentsia should be crushed a long time ago so that they are not on TV and in general in all media.
It's time to clean up the TV shows and their management...
One Ernest is worth something. Who is keeping it there?

Looks like they're coming back... along with monkey disease

[Alexander Salenko]

Having three children is not a problem, the problem is raising them. Here I have a two-room apartment, one is our room with my wife, the other is for children, so that my two children fit normally and there is some space in the room, they sleep on a two-story bed, there is nowhere to put a three-story bed, the ceiling will not allow.
Further, they have one desk for two, and when the lessons have to be done at the same time, then one of them has to look for another table, since they are there.
Clothes and food are not the biggest problem, but also, you know, especially when the child is small and growing rapidly.
So I have an apartment, and how many families are renting? So here the state should think because you pay two apartments on a mortgage and you need to have a stable income.

[bulgaria_]

Yes, you have the largest terra in the world. Also, you need to reduce the effect of a nuclear explosion on Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc. Now you with less warheads will kill a lot of people. Terra must be mastered. My grandfather was in a family of 12 children, my father - 5 children. I have a brother and sister. I have a first marriage 2 rich people. Unfortunately, from 2ro it does not work yet. For a nation to move forward, you need youth, children. And you need 2 people to have at least 3 children. This is my opinion and I am not criticizing anyone. I'm just drinking to talk. When in 1980 he began to study the population by geography, India had 600 million and China - 1.100 billion. Now both powers have parity - more than 1.4 billion. China is the first product in terms of PPP and India is also in the shuttle place. And notice - Turkey, Indonesia - all these powers are going up powerfully, like Brazil.

[Alexander Salenko]

I agree with you that young people are needed, as they exist. My great-grandfather alone had 8 children, three had two, more precisely, one had a younger daughter, the baby died in evacuation during the war, I almost forgot. But children must not only be born but also put on their feet.
And the fact that now in Russia they are sounding the alarm that little is being born, and so I have a young wife and her generation falls on the peak of the birth rate in the USSR. And at the school of my children on the 4th grade parallel, the students at the school participate in two shifts, I also studied in the second shift but for two years. and my children are 3 years old - is this a sign of a lack of children?
Now there are few babies, because the generation of the 90s is giving birth, when we had a demographic hole, then they gave birth little, life was unsettled, and my children will grow up and there will be a surge in the birth rate again. And so I know families where there are three children, for example, my cousin, but I know one truth, where there are four.
As for the vast territory, this is not Bulgaria for you. It’s far from comfortable to live everywhere, and in Crimea, for example, as you have only the South Coast in terms of climate, but in the steppe, in the north of Crimea, it’s already oh how cold it gets.
And so it turns out that people from the Far East come to us in Crimea, but I don’t know a single Crimean who would go to the Far East.

[bulgaria_]

If we have an idle apartment in the villages, there always appear qigans. And where there is one, soon a bunch will be collected. Here is just an example. It is necessary to save the terra with the population, not only with weapons.

[Alexander Salenko]

We do not have the smallest population, and it is added, including in an extensive way, as with my Crimea, for example, the Russian Federation acquired 2,5 million compatriots.

[vlad106]

Quote: Alexander Salenko

I have a two-room apartment, one room is ours with my wife, the other is for children, so that my two children fit normally and there is some space in the room, they sleep on a two-story bed, there is nowhere to put a three-story bed, the ceiling will not allow ...

But these capitalists, businessmen, aligarhs with bureaucrats and some deputies have real estate with 100 rooms over the hill, golden toilets ... They don't care about ordinary people.
They feel very well both in Russia and abroad.

[antivirus]

To no avail.
Do not wash the dog white.
The mentality is ingrained in the brains of an entire generation. For the rest of our lives. The loot in Cyprus conquers evil. And in Uryupinsk and Tutaev, the loot multiplies evil.
Until 2050

[mikstepanenko]

Better late than never.

[Chief Officer Lom]

production large-sized unmanned aerial vehicles

If I am not mistaken, in Ukraine there are no big problems with the shortage of large drones, their shortage can (with reservations of course) be compensated by manned aircraft. But in small, cheap (relatively), often disposable reconnaissance drones that conduct operational reconnaissance of the front line in the interests of companies and even platoons, there is an acute shortage. As always, megalomania left them in the shadows.

[Pulkovo1942]

If I'm not mistaken, there are no big problems with the lack of large drones in Ukraine

You are very much mistaken, as if you were in hibernation all this time. There are no strikers at all, and volunteers buy civilian drones. I won’t write anything about Orlan, as its exploiters say: “We have to argue we see a tank or a bush”
Impact UAVs could now cut out on an industrial scale and in real time equipment, congestion of personnel, hanging for hours over supply routes, etc. etc.

[Chief Officer Lom]

Large shock UAVs cost a lot (therefore, even the striped ones have relatively few of them), and they themselves are an excellent target, and their effectiveness (as strikers) in hostilities is exaggerated. It is rather a weapon of terror, in this capacity the Americans use them. We have enough strike power for Ukraine, we can destroy any object, it would be target designation. But the big drones are piece goods, and don't do reconnaissance for the benefit of junior commanders, who are forced to use donated remote-controlled toys to see who's hiding behind nearby bushes and buildings before sending in their fighters.

[donavi49]

No, you're confusing classes here. MALE (and Orion, this is MALE, like Bayraktar, like Shahid129, like CH4 / WingLong) is just a tool for holding down enemy forces, searching and destroying, and if air defense forces (by themselves) are revealed, then it doesn’t matter, then gotta get there fast.

The peculiarity and benefit of MALE is precisely in the fact that its working height ignores MANPADS and many means of front-line defense (well, for example, Strela10 will take it on the echelon only if it circles right above it). That is, they have to be shot down with serious complexes, which are revealed in this way. At the same time, he himself conducts reconnaissance 24/7 with a very long period of barrage of the area, is often invisible to the enemy, and is also capable of immediately hitting targets. For example, if the Outpost sees a conditional Caesar or Himars (and just an artillery / flying staff on the spot, etc.), then he cannot do anything to him, and the operator passes it on to the authorities, by the time the measures are taken (if they are at all are possible - there is no free art, out of range, etc.) - everything may well end, that is, the target will leave.

MALE are capable of breaking the course of the battle in the tactical sector, terrifying the rear, artillery, forcing them to reduce their effectiveness by dispersing the enemy on the echelon and communications. However, this is achieved only by massaging. Conditional 3 Orions = that they do not exist at all. Here are 20-30 - they already give results with massive use 24/7 in the area / direction.

[Garris199]

Conditional 3 Orions = that they do not exist at all. Here are 20-30 - they already give results with massive use 24/7 in the area / direction.

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And one Orion can be quite useful, destroying a headquarters vehicle, for example, a howitzer or a group of soldiers on a smoke break (remember Karabakh). UAVs should work not only in the interests of large formations, especially in the RF Armed Forces the main tactical unit is the BTG

[donavi49]

1 UAV is one narrow strip of loitering - patrol area. 10 UAVs in the sky are 10 narrow strips of loitering-patrol areas. Well, it's like fishing alone 1 or 10th. When will the catch be bigger?

One staff car even at the level of the deputy battalion commander + commanders = it hurts, but the site will not collapse. Total rear terror, it collapses the front. Since the damage accumulates, the morale drops sharply, transportation, flying and maneuvering by the second echelons are difficult.

[Tusv]

Quote: Chief Officer Lom

often disposable reconnaissance drones that conduct operational reconnaissance of the front line in the interests of companies and even platoons, there is an acute shortage.

So copters before CBO could be bought for 67 kilo rubles. Well pole case,replaceable battery 81 edge. But! Not a secure channel and will arrive almost instantly to the operator. Maybe

[maiman61]

Our Ruslans are very frequent in China. That's where they probably buy small drones. There are VERY good, inexpensive, and most importantly, battle-tested specimens. Even with thermal imagers.

[engineer74]

Of course, I understand everything - secrecy, etc.
But it would be better if they reported not on working hours, but on units of production ...

[Crisp]

Quote: Third District

It would be interesting to know how fast the assembly is going on, how many devices are made per day. Unless, of course, it's not a military secret.

Of course it's a secret. You need to do many and varied things like this. There should be a sufficient number of factories throughout the country. What is it - three sites.

[Sergey Kuzmin]

You need to do many and varied things like this. There should be a sufficient number of factories throughout the country. What is it - three sites.

At existing aircraft factories, make workshops for the production of UAVs ...

[Sergey Kuzmin]

Hooray! Finally, mass production of Russian UAVs will begin! this, if corrupt officials and traitors do not cheat, will be a significant help to our Russian troops.

[couch]

finally, everyone shouted to the authorities and they decided to increase the number of shifts, which should have worked like this in the "machine", after the announcement of the special operation

[TreeSmall]

Drones (ours) completely disappeared from the reports of the Defense Ministry Konashenkov.

[Tusv]

Quote from TreeSmall

Drones (ours) completely disappeared from the reports of the Ministry of Defense Konashenkov

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What does not say at all: "Fixed by means of objective control"????. And it doesn't show hits? Where are you filming from? Nazis in exchange for stew pass? (By the way there were such facts)

[TreeSmall]

No, actually he says.
Kronstadts were often shown earlier. I haven't seen it since spring. Maybe I'm not looking there?
"Means of objective control" and what is it?
I know onboard juice

technical means designed to record and save flight information characterizing flight conditions, crew actions and the functioning of onboard equipment

Nazis in exchange for stew pass?

Didn't attend. I saw that the “Natsiks” were exchanged the other day.
And I don’t understand: why do they need stew then?

[Tusv]

Quote from TreeSmall

why do they need stew?

There was such a fact of the exchange of Western weapons for stew in the Cart. It might be fake too. But very beautiful and very believable.

[Alexander Salenko]

And easily, there will always be their ensigns and horizontal ties will be established. So it was in the Middle Ages, when, for example, a fortress is besieged, and there, say, there are stocks of salt, here is salt for you, food for us, and they did not hesitate to sell the besieged cores, which tomorrow will fly to the besieged again.
Yes, and in the year 14-15, when it was reported that a radar was taken as a trophy for counter-battery combat. It seems to me that they still bought it, then the goods were piece.

[kosmos84]

It's been like this for 4 months now

[garik77]

One manufacturer is not enough. We have a bunch of aviation design bureaus, which for some reason do not catch mice, but could be engaged in the creation and production of UAVs

[bulgaria_]

Here the problems are not in the avionics mine. It can be used in optical instruments, thermal imaging, coordinate control. You can talk for a long time. I used to bet dell on good ones and lots of satellites with good optics too. And create a network between satellites and UAVs and introduce all this into self-propelled howitzers and tanks and terminators. There is a tank and two UAVs on top - reconnaissance and shock (whatever you want).

[Arkady007]

Now the question arises where to get literate workers without purchased diplomas and prepared without the Unified State Examination.

[odisey3000]

The war has already been going on for 6 months, and the company is only recruiting staff, it’s bad, the managers and curators of this enterprise are working, it’s very bad. equal, and here we are talking about some kind of mobilization economy from the screens, maybe it's in another country.

[Alexander Salenko]

Can you find them with a click? For example, we have the problem of finding staff, there is a backbone, and, most importantly, you can earn money, although the work is not the easiest, and qualifications are not required, to be able to trade, but there are difficulties.

[Korovin]

What will tapericha do three pieces a year and not two?
Did they replace the Made in France chips with Chinese ones?

[km-21]

It is very curious (without malice), where are the electronic and optical components, as well as the engines for these drones, produced? If the components come from reliable suppliers, then this is good. And if the plant is supplied from old stocks, then this is alarming.

[Vlad1097]

It seems that their engine was launched into the series APD 120

[km-21]

Quote: Vlad1097

It seems that their engine was launched into the series APD 120

It's joyful. Externally, the engine looks promising for UAVs and light aircraft. True, the question remains of comparability with the prototype and serialization. But the progress is clear.

[v1tz]

It is already impossible to imagine a modern army without large-sized strike UAVs: why did this matter take so long, huh?

[2я19]

How slowly we harness ... Until we produce, until we train operators, until commanders learn how to use them, until we write regulations, until we arrange logistics ... Eh!

[TatarinSSSR]

I have had to do this since 2008. But anyway, it's already fun.

[alexmach]

I have had to do this since 2008. But anyway, it's already fun.

Because that's how they do it. There Altair has been sawing since 2011.

[Albert Brecht]

Quote: 2я19

How slowly we harness ... Until we produce, until we train operators, until commanders learn how to use them, until we write regulations, until we arrange logistics ... Eh!

But we're going fast... E-eh

[Vladimir Nizhegorodsky]

Unmanned aircraft to be !!!
Better late than never!
On the good way!!!
Good, new and promising models!
And new technologies and industry geniuses!
New Tupolevs, Mikoyanovs, Yakovlevs and Sukhikhs!!!!!

[Oleg . B.]

This is an old article. halva, halva - do not become sweeter. Borodai spoke about new loitering ammunition with a large charge of shrapnel, on electric motors - because of this, silent. And we are reprinting the March article. How s...ka great!!! And there is a war. A soldier pays for someone else's stupidity (or greed) with his blood. It is necessary to mobilize into the rank and file and send to the Donbass those who did not introduce UAVs into military units on time and in the required quantity.

[Crisp]

Quote: Sergey Kuzmin

You need to do many and varied things like this. There should be a sufficient number of factories throughout the country. What is it - three sites.

At existing aircraft factories, make workshops for the production of UAVs ...

No need. Different nomenclature, different technologies, different materials, and DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR PERFORMANCE OF TECHNOLOGICAL DISCIPLINE. The same people after the mess with the UAV will sculpt shit on the assembly of aircraft. Tractor factories cannot make tanks. And vice versa. Aviators have their own problems. We need to get rid of this rubbish.

[vlad106]

Quote: Crispy

Tractor factories cannot make tanks.

Bro! In wartime, tractor factories (tracked DT 75, it seems), in particular Volgograd, Pavlodar, produce tanks.

[Warrior MorePhoto]

The plant was supposed to be built two years earlier and had to work in three shifts from February 2021

[Vladimir Michailovich]

Quote: Volkof

Engine problem

And what are the problems with the engine, while China supplies there are no problems. As it refuses, there will be no problems, just like engines as such.

[Gippo]

When I try to comment, the window collapses. So is the drone program.
I considered VO an adequate site. Wrong.

[Vladimir Michailovich]

Quote: Gippo

When I try to comment, the window collapses. So is the drone program.
I considered VO an adequate site. Wrong.

Don't post blasphemous comments...

[Cut Samshitov]

[quote = Sawing Boxwood] [quote]. Andrey Zarafyants. Surname Fino-Ugric [/ quote]

[Vladimir Michailovich]

1904 sends greetings to 2022 - everything is like a carbon copy - kings, a general with stripes and rattles, priests with censers, raw materials for export, "patriots" on Okhotny. Only new trends have appeared - instead of the quinoa, the "deep burrow" leans on palm oil, and instead of the yellow macaques that should have been peeled at the sight of the Cossack peaks, now the pig-nazis who settled not in Mukden, but in Kharkov. Oh, I completely forgot, in the role of Rasputin - Abramovich, - this is because the ungodly Bolsheviks abolished the Pale of Settlement - and for this they are hated by the priests and, which is quite strange, eaters of matzah.

[Moneron]

no private entrepreneur will be engaged in the opening of a new production. Why does he need this hemorrhoid on the brain. easier to squeeze the leftovers from the existing enterprise. especially the logistics to the buyer comes from the past.
the organization of new enterprises urgently needed for the country is a direct responsibility of the state !!! stop relying on local capitalism. the country is in danger!

[DO]

All factories involved in the production of military drones had to work 24 hours a day from the day they were launched.

[meandr51]

Before the war, the Yak-1 entered service a year after the start of design.
The ZIS-3 gun and the Sever radio station were designed in a week.

[Alexander Salenko]

I don’t agree with the gun, they designed the barrel, and the carriage was already on the ZiS-2, which was considered excessively powerful before the war.

But there is no need to compare that equipment with modern and aviation technology, at the beginning of the war we had an aircraft fighter fleet - these are different models of Polikarpov, only the Yak-1 could adequately resist the Germans, but there were not many of them.
Watch videos with Mikhail Timin on tactical media, he is an aviation historian, and not just a broadcaster.

[meandr51]

I watched Timin, he is still a "historian". He chooses from the archive dump only that which at least somehow discredits the USSR. As Zhvanetsky used to say: "Full coverage of the issue, but only from one side."

[Alexander Salenko]

I didn't see any discrediting at all. Maybe he doesn’t say everything that you like, but this does not discredit the USSR in any way. HERE they talked about guns, maybe Grabin discredits when he talks about complaints about his guns and then it turned out that the reason was low technical literacy? Maybe SVT didn’t go to the troops en masse instead of the three-ruler, because it had to be looked after? Or are Ulanov and Shein harshly slandering, saying that uneducated soldiers served in the mechanized corps?
And the first commander-in-chief of the Strategic Missile Forces, Marshal Krylov, does incite ethnic hatred at all, talking about the low qualities of the Caucasian replenishment?

[meandr51]

I listened to Timin's nonsense when he proved with a blue eye that German pilots shot down 10 times more planes than Soviet ones. Quietly surpassed Dr. Goebbels along with Hartman. This is his "archival revolution" for Western grants. Sky Artist from his clowning left no stone unturned.

[Alexander Salenko]

But I haven’t heard this, and it seems to me that you are tryndit. If not, I will apologize.

[kytx]

Is this a job posting?
Then you need to leave contact :)

[TerraSandera]

It was the 5th month of the special operation, the country was slowly starting to come to its senses and get up on a military footing. It's a shame that reasonable decisions start to come in a few months, after, and not before the start.
And so it’s definitely a plus, if, of course, they find something to replace the prohibited components with.

[meandr51]

The US and Europe are no better. Bureaucracy works the same way everywhere. Even in the Stalinist USSR, there were enough ridiculous jambs.

[TerraSandera]

There were enough goats. Well, they are probably everywhere. Especially in a country that survived a monstrous war, lost its population in percentage terms, among other things, experienced personnel, engineers, and specialists. But at the same time, she was able to create nuclear weapons, protecting herself from another war. Rebuild the cities, with a shortage of men, from the ruins. To build hundreds, if not thousands of new factories, where even now the oligarchs milk and receive billions. Here are the jambs with "galoshes", on which they still swim / fly, including "Unparalleled in the world"

[Dikson]

Empty from the south of Russia they are also recruiting from the system of international air communications .. - there is nowhere to fly anyway now .. Ah! it’s also possible from the automotive industry - there’s nothing to assemble cars from there either .. And here, in three shifts, they offer work, again, the product will be trampled ... As Bayraktars didn’t guess, it’s still unclear to repaint .. It seems Erdogan is a friend, but the plant is Ukrainians build.. And why not us? Because the Turks also have a screwdriver assembly ..

[mojohed2012]

In a couple of months, we will see how the transition is at the beginning of July 2022. this UAV manufacturer for 3 shifts will affect the quality and effectiveness of the fire damage of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
And the question is: how many of those UAVs from 3 shifts will be in the strike version, at least by analogy with Bayraktar.

[Vlad1097]

For now, you need to rely on guided projectiles like Krasnopol and reconnaissance drones to upgrade and aim artillery at the enemy.

[Chemodan]

They're kind of like pickers. Yes, and it’s stupid to make UAVs like a bayraktar, the loot is nowhere, this task will be performed many times better by rackets, and they will be guided by penny UAVs that don’t give a shit if they shoot down

[Vlad1097]

For penny drones, reconnaissance and optical instruments are weak

[meandr51]

Not a fig is weak. I have a Habsan Zino 2. From 200 m it gives a real-time color image that allows you to distinguish the make of the car, and even its number. And it's cheap for 23 tr. The 14 MP camera has a size of 4 cm. The Mavic has a zoom lens, where you can recognize a person from this height. And such drones are not heard and not seen already from 100 m in general! The problem is only in the flight time, which is from 20 to 40 minutes. Large winged drones can work from 50 km, but they can be seen well, and it’s not a pity to spend a rocket.

[riwas]

Drone production plant in Dubna near Moscow switches to work in three shifts

Necessary business. And then volunteers bring civilians, and they are vulnerable to electronic warfare and so they are shot down. In general, drones are consumables. The NM LDNR has very few of them.

[Vodila]

It is touching when (always) the places of production of our weapons are named. Isn't it easier to name the coordinates, otherwise the enemy warhead will not understand the name of the Russian city. I have never read where Western weapons are made.

[meandr51]

In Soviet times, they gave 10 years for this. But the CIA still knew where everything was made. True, sometimes factories are so hidden that no satellite will see. I knew one such in Soviet times, but I will not talk about him. Is he still working?

[Ablet]

In addition to reconnaissance, kamikaze drones are also needed. Lana fires cubes and lancets, but they are small and few in number, and they are launched from the ground, which reduces their speed and range. It is quite realistic to make large kamikaze drones weighing 200 kilograms or even more but air-based, in fact small cruise missiles, in a sense, an analogue of the Israeli Spice 250 but with an electric motor. We make electric motors 60 kW (DT-60NS), which means they can do less - 10, 20 or 30 kW. Putting a 20 kW engine, 20-40 kg of lithium batteries and a 60-80 kg warhead on a drone is quite realistic. Almost X-59 and will fly at a speed of about 400 km / h more than 100 km. Batteries can be put in 2 banks to make the drone lighter at the final stage - outboard (reset after discharge) and main internal. The Su-34 can be such a carrier, but it is better to adapt it to the L-410 - this one can be on duty near the front line for a long time and launch as soon as intelligence indicates the target.

[AlOrg]

there are already such missiles in the LMUR troops, product 305. They are needed now in large quantities

[Ablet]

I am aware of this, but there is a solid-propellant engine and a warhead of only 25 kg. On an electric propeller, you can carry farther and more, however, more slowly, but the price of the issue is much, much less than for the turbofan engine-50 as in the X-59.
Zala has a cube engine of about 1 kW, judging by the dimensions, if you make more and put 5 kW, then it will be able to drag approximately like an LMUR for a comparable distance, but I think it will be cheaper. Then the electric motors do not leave an infrared trace.

[AML]

Quote: Pulkovo1942

I won’t write anything about Orlan, as its exploiters say: “We have to argue we see a tank or a bush”
Impact UAVs could now cut out on an industrial scale and in real time equipment, congestion of personnel, hanging for hours over supply routes, etc. etc.

Small and medium UAVs by themselves can do nothing. Behind every UAV is a person. Staring at the screen for hours, you know, it's not very fun, especially when the landscape is the same type.
And forget about the color hd picture from the cameras. The transmission channel is not rubber.

[meandr51]

So my Habsan is rubber. The quality is excellent, I bought it for a stock for 23 thousand.

[iouris]

Our UAVs are the largest UAVs in the world!
Where are we going to get the equipment? Do the Ketays also work in three shifts?

[Repellent]

Quote: iouris

Where are we going to get the equipment? Do the Ketays also work in three shifts?

No. They are just down to this very ... well, how to say ... in short - well, very lot

[zombirusrev]

How many Kutuzovs and Zhukovs got divorced, there is nowhere to spit .. UAVs were still made under the USSR, but as you know, they ruined everything ..

[iouris]

I’ll tell you as a native: the UAVs that the army needs are flying smartphones. Did they make smartphones during the USSR? The last one who made a "Russian smartphone" seems to be Chubais. But then he married this one..., also very Russian... Fse!

[IXION]

And went to Turkey

[meandr51]

Will Caliber or Iskander missiles be simpler than smartphones?

[AlOrg]

Orions are now just needed to fight foreign evil spirits such as Himars, clubs 777 and so on

[IXION]

The Ukrainians dismantled the broken Orions there, the motor and optics (Canon camera) are foreign, I think right now the Orions will have the most problems

[meandr51]

The source is extremely authoritative.

[Sergey74]

I met with the staff of a serial plant for the production of unmanned aerial vehicles of aircraft and helicopter types and JSC DMZ, which are part of the Kronstadt group of companies. Both enterprises form the Center for Unmanned Aviation, whose tasks include the production of both aircraft and ground control points.

He spoke about the implementation of state and municipal programs, as well as national projects in the city. About work in the field of improvement (construction of a skate park, a beach in a family recreation park, a square behind the terminals, repair of Komsomolskaya embankment, roads and sidewalks), transport (keeping schedules and canceling cash fares), education (gardens, schools, physical and lyceum, high level of training according to the results of the Unified State Examination), medicine (opening of the Vascular Center on the basis of Medical Unit No. 9 this year), ecology (treatment facilities). A lot of questions were received from the employees of the enterprise, all of them were taken to work.

But the main issue that interested both the staff and the management of the plant was the construction of housing in the city. Now this issue is being actively worked out together with the Government of the Moscow Region. The company itself will also be involved in the construction of housing for employees. In the coming years, a whole microdistrict for the employees of the enterprise will appear on the site near Khlebozavodskaya and Makarenko streets: 14 houses with 780 apartments are planned to be built on the wasteland.

Today, the Kronstadt enterprises are loaded with orders for years to come. With the advent of the new owner of the workshop, "DMZ" have been insulated, updated, ahead of the modernization of the machine park and buildings inside. Aleksey Belykh, the new General Director of JSC DMZ, appointed in April, emphasized that in the near future it is planned to ensure a three-shift production regime.

Thanks to the appearance of the Center for the production of unmanned aerial vehicles in Dubna, over 1500 new jobs will be created in the city. The Kronstadt company continues to recruit qualified workers and engineers in the field of the aviation industry, the automotive industry and mechanical engineering in general, and also invites students from Dubna technology colleges to work.

https://ok.ru/sergey.kulikov.ksa/statuses/154439654047993
The mayor of Dubna recently visited Kronstadt. Over 1500 jobs will be created. This is not counting those already existing at the DMZ.

[Gippo]

I'm wildly sorry, but can the products of the plant be sent to the studio?
Let it be from afar, let it be cloudy so as not to disclose it.
But at least in general terms. How not? OK......

[Luenkov]

Will it help? The technologies there are still the same...

[Chemodan]

It won’t help, we are already fighting off the Ukrainian army in the Urals, soon they will take Khabarovsk

[IXION]

Not everywhere, of course, it won’t be possible to assemble bayraktars, we don’t have optics and the Krasnogorsk plant will not be able to master it. But we can do something small for tactical tasks and that will be good.

[Vlad1097]

SCHWABE can make optical instruments.

[sgrabik]

Now we urgently need to increase the production of our UAVs without any long buildup and at the fastest pace, our army needs them now like air.

[IXION]

Damn, we came to our senses, and how many screams on State TV there were “we have a shell, all these drones are complete crap!”

[Vaclav]

Why didn’t they say anything about the Ural Civil Aviation Plant, which, it seems, also did something on the topic of drones? Why is it still not loaded with 3 shifts? What about other factories?
Total mobilization! Total. First of all - the economy, industrial enterprises.
Bayraktar - screwdriver technology? Yes, attract unemployed people from employment centers to work as a “screwdriver”! Some of the most primitive UAVs. But there should be a swarm of them, covering the ENTIRE sky above the SVO venue! Around the clock! So that not even a single gopher goes unnoticed.
Thousands, tens of thousands of little observers, just with a camera and that’s it. Will they shoot down 10? In their place, 100 new ones will arrive! Everything for the front, everything for victory!
Don't let the artillery sleep here! Crews are on duty around the loaded howitzers around the clock, holding a cord in their hands, and after a few seconds the projectile flies to the targeted coordinate, where a field “gopher” moved in a hole. The coordinate, targeted, by the way, using the same drone.

[Crisp]

Quote: vlad106

Quote: Crispy

Tractor factories cannot make tanks.

Bro! In wartime, tractor factories (tracked DT 75, it seems), in particular Volgograd, Pavlodar, produce tanks.

Bro! You don’t need to tell me how disastrous it is to combine such different productions on one site. At one time I was the leading designer of a dual-use product. If the assembly was in different workshops, it would go anywhere else. Confusion in materials, confusion in acceptance testing methods. Still, we sculpted 25 thousand of them a year. One “Arctic”, the first one, took 2,5 thousand of my products. You can tell by eye the casting of a track for different hardware, but one is for...., the other is for.... Different storage, different technologies, different materials and equipment. Different warehouses, different suppliers, different test benches and settings. At a tank factory, a tractor will cost many times more than at a civilian one. Different financial relations with the state. But the tractor plant will not be able to produce a tank. There have been so many cases where the military representative stops the production of castings. He doesn't like the quality. There are motives. And we are stopping the production of civilian ones, since we don’t have a shitty pile of molds, but quite..... Until we repair them properly. Citizens, for seiners and various cabotage and such, quite.... They tore them off with their hands, just give it. Eternal Soviet deficit. In everything.
And, the production of the very first copies of the DT-75 tractor was established in 1956