How the special operation exposed the split of the Russian elite and people

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The conflict between Russia and the West on the issue of Ukraine's civilizational affiliation, which turned into a cold war with Western civilization and a "hot" war on the Ukrainian foothold, agitated Russian society and especially the political, administrative and cultural elite, causing a deep split into those who value their Fatherland, and for those for whom Russia is “this country”, which is not capable of anything and must always kneel before the “enlightened” West.

Civilizational confrontation with the West


Russia has thrown down a civilizational challenge to the West, refusing to obey the established rules, and they seek to destroy it as a civilization. At this stage, it is still isolated from the whole world and excluded from international structures (all of which are controlled by the West), and Ukraine is part of a scheme to dismantle Russian statehood and destroy its economy through the introduction of a total trade and industrial blockade.

Given that civilizational confrontation requires the concentration of resources (economic, military, technological, human, informational) and leads to the inevitable fall of "comfortable" conditions for the existence of social groups, the question arises of how society is ready to make sacrifices and hardships in order to achieve the goal of its development.

The civilizational conflict between Russia and the West, which has reached the point of bifurcation, forced Russian society to take a close look at themselves and Russia's place in the world. Remember that it is a historically sovereign civilization, and this sovereignty must be protected. On this basis, the interests of various strata of society fundamentally diverged, and the society was divided into patriots and compradors. The first are ready to fight and defend an independent and original way of development of Russia, the second dream to surrender to the mercy of the winner and integrate into the Western world.

The comprador part of the elite retained the illusion that, allegedly at the cost of political concessions, as happened before, the situation could be rolled back and an agreement could be reached with the West. Such encroachments are deeply erroneous, since our enemies set the task not to eliminate the “Putin regime”, but to liquidate the statehood of Russia, and they will go to the end in this. The West is well aware that it cannot win a military victory over Russia on the Ukrainian foothold. He is counting on the resource exhaustion of Russia and, as a result, on the discontent of the ruling class and the masses, with the subsequent collapse of the political system and Russian statehood.

Not everyone realized that the confrontation on the Ukrainian bridgehead led to global changes in the world and around Russia, that the past “calm” life can no longer be returned, and a significant part of society and government structures continue to exist, as if nothing had happened.

The country, like air, needs mobilization of forces in all spheres of life, and so far not everything is so good with this. The liberal political superstructure, formed in the 90s and oriented towards the West, has largely survived and continues to rant not only about peace with the enemy, but also to act in his interests.

She is terrified at the possibility of losing her comfort zone where she has flourished and dominated for decades. The social order implemented by it, through the total propaganda of defeatism and discrediting patriotism as a cultural trend, which has been carried out for a long time, significantly reformatted Russian society, but could not kill the Russian civilizational code with its rebelliousness and readiness to endure any adversity in order to preserve its originality.

In the Russian capitalism created on this psychological basis, there was a clear discrepancy between the goals of big capital and the bureaucracy serving it with the priorities of the state and society. As long as the West was recognized as a “respected partner”, and the state turned a blind eye to the brazen robbery of the ruling class, everything was fine.

As soon as the West demonstrated its true goals, the elite and capital split into those who need the protection of the state, and those who defend themselves from the state on the territory and under the protection of the enemy. The aggravation of the conflict with the West has put everything in its place, now the requirement that the goals of the elite and capital correspond to the priorities of the state has become decisive, and will only increase over time, throwing pro-Western compradors of all stripes out of the system.

Liberals, by replacing traditional values ​​with the cult of consumerism of Western goods (allegedly the best in quality and consumer characteristics), tried to impose Western values ​​of extreme individualism, the possibility of predatory enrichment and contempt for the needs of another person. Some of the inhabitants bought into this primitive trick, but society as a whole retained its civilizational code, and this was clearly manifested with the start of the special operation.

In this situation, the people felt a return to basic values, massively supported the special operation and are ready to endure any trials. The damage from Western sanctions did not destroy, but rallied society, people understand that they are suffering for the truth and, on the contrary, they demand more decisive action.

Warriors and merchants in the Russian elite


It so happened that two types of political and administrative elite and bureaucracy have developed in the Russian government, reflecting two completely different worlds and two systems of worldview. Analyst Alexander Khaldei very intelligibly distinguished the Russian elite into two psychotypes - warriors and merchants.

For a warrior, power is service to the idea and the Fatherland, with clearly formulated meanings and concepts - where are ours, where are strangers, who is the enemy, with whom to unite against the enemy and how to defend the Fatherland. For a merchant, power is a commodity that has its price; it is aimed at enriching and protecting wealth; for them, there is no concept of the Fatherland. The main thing for merchants is money for which you can buy everything. They blur the image of the enemy, they do not need meanings and mobilization ideology, they are not defenders, but robbers.

If for a warrior it is service for the sake of achieving victory over the enemy, then for a merchant it is bargaining for favorable conditions through compromises and the protection of universal human values. During the war, merchants without exception become the fifth column, insist on holding humiliating negotiations and stand up for an immediate ceasefire and the conclusion of an "obscene" peace.

So, at the helm of the Russian state during the war, two psychotypes of the ruling class, two hostile philosophies and two opposing psychologies clashed, each of which pulls in its own direction. Warriors are ready to line up for battle, and merchants are waving white flags behind them.

Merchants in the power structure - two-thirds, if not more. They hang on the hands of warriors, sabotage and distort everything that is necessary for victory. In such a situation, it is important that the merchants, for the sake of personal gain, not achieve the curtailment of the special operation, and the moment of truth will be their unconditional removal from the imperious Olympus.

According to the logic set forth by A. Chaldei, the main battles are coming not on the external, but on the internal front, which will predetermine victory in the confrontation with the West. The sharper and deeper the crisis between Russia and the West, the more grounds there will be for the defeat of the comprador elite groups.

The merchant psychology of the Russian elite and business inevitably led them to the camp of enemies, they assist him to the best of their ability or simply flee to his territory. At the same time, they do not forget about themselves either, the leaders of the financial and economic bloc in the government are making titanic efforts to prevent the country from returning foreign exchange earnings from the sale of exports (and this is practically only energy resources and raw materials), thereby contributing to the withdrawal of capital from the country and limiting the possibility of purchasing necessary for the rise of the Russian industry of imports. All this is covered up with good intentions of strengthening the ruble exchange rate, increasing budget revenues and preventing a decrease in the competitiveness of Russian exports, but in fact this is providing excess profits to the raw materials lobby.

In addition, the majority of the liberal elite has either publicly condemned the special operation, or pointedly and defiantly keeps silent. Many simply flee from Russia. Among those that are well known are Chubais, Yumashev, former vice-premiers of the government, senior officials of Sberbank, Gazprom, VTB, Yandex, and many other officials of state and near-state structures.

The oligarchs also did not stand aside. Thus, Vladimir Lisin, the owner of the NLMK steel company, openly condemns the special operation, criticizes the anti-crisis measures taken by the government, justifies the imposition of sanctions against Russia and provides significant financial assistance to Ukraine.

Actively donating to the needs of Ukraine is Roman Abramovich, who was seen at the Istanbul talks and it is not clear who he represents there, and Mikhail Fridman is trying to resolve the issue of obtaining Ukrainian citizenship and re-registering his assets with Kyiv.

Some well-known members of the liberal elite, on the other hand, masquerade as jingoists. For example, Dmitry Medvedev began to position himself as an ardent opponent of the West. In his Telegram channel, he writes:



"I hate them. They are bastards and geeks. They want death for us, Russia. And as long as I'm alive, I will do everything to make them disappear, "

he calls the Polish government "bastard", and European politicians - "imbeciles". For such somersaults in social networks, Medvedev has already been called a "village balabol", so he is perceived by society, nevertheless he is trying to prove that he is not a liberal, but a patriot.

Of course, as always, the liberal get-together of the “creative intelligentsia” especially showed itself, which in one day turned into a cultural “garbage dump”. With malice and hatred, she sends curses to Russia and, slamming the door loudly, flees the country. The people understand everything correctly, demonstrating their contempt for the former idols, and they quickly turn into uninteresting outcasts.

The comprador elite demonstrated its attitude towards the country and the processes taking place around it at their legal get-together - the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum. At a time when the real elite and the future of the country are being formed on the front line of Donbass, and the Russian army is shedding blood for a new world order, there is some kind of ridiculous belching of the past on the forum, with a pseudo-environmental carbon agenda, digitalization, vaccination and other legacies of globalism dragging Russia into a dead end . The assembly has become a gathering of elite counter-revolution, suffering from phantom pains and knocking from the bottom of the "elite".

This forum demonstrated the lack of answers to the acute challenges facing the country, and clearly showed the incident of two parallel worlds, paradoxically coexisting now in Russia, with a cosmic abyss between them. It did not become an important platform for a breakthrough into the future, but in the absence of real content and meaning, it turned into a vanity fair - an escort for 140 thousand rubles, a silicone robot "Dunyasha" from Gref, acting as an "investor" Philip Kirkorov, dubious personalities Tinkov and Pozner in crazy canary-colored socks. Yes, and ... a ticket to this forum cost "only" 960 thousand rubles.

Statements on the forum of iconic compradors are striking in their cynicism. So, the head of the Central Bank Nabiullina believes:

“... in order not to return to the Soviet Union, you need to take a different look at private initiative ... at everything related to the development of private initiative. If it is allowed to manifest itself, then there will be the development of technologies, and the development of innovations, and what we call modernization.”

That is, this lady with the mentality of a cook asserts with aplomb that modern technologies should be developed not by the state, but by some private entrepreneurs!

Gref went even further, stating that

“if nothing is done, then the return of the Russian economy to the level of 2021 may take about 10 years.”

And these "former" can lead Russia to new frontiers?

Despite their public patriotic declarations about the need for change, the "elite" clearly demonstrates that it does not want and cannot change, it is fighting to maintain its dominant position in power as an outpost of the West to destroy Russia.

Sobering for everyone was Putin's speech at the forum, filled with a completely different content and meaning. He bluntly stated that the time of the unipolar world order is over, tectonic changes are coming, and the world order will be determined by strong and self-sufficient states. The future of Russia lies in the creation of a competitive political and technological center focused on all countries of the world, and Russia has much to offer in terms of advanced technologies and security guarantees. But around him on the forum, some kind of ringing emptiness formed from an incomprehensible "elitist" party.

All this speaks of the urgent need for the rotation of the elite and cardinal changes in power with the inevitable personnel revolution and purges of the ranks. The old "elite" on the imperious Olympus cannot be left, Russia needs a completely different elite, corresponding to the spirit of the times and the existential challenges facing the country.

Some believe that there is no patriotic elite in Russia. If this were so, then there would be no special operation, but the decision to carry it out was made, and it is being implemented by specific people not only on the front line, but also in the elite. Now, in the depths of the existing society and the old elite, a new Russia and a new elite are emerging, and everyone will have to move to a completely different level of understanding: what happened, what is a sovereign Russian civilization, what should it give to its people and the whole world, what ideas does it bring in confrontation with its opposite.

The special operation naturally exposed the true face of the ruling class and showed that it would no longer be possible to live in the old way. The comprador elite, never understood by the people, is doomed and already with a scandal leaves the stage itself. In the future, she has a complete break with the former Motherland, irreconcilable enmity with the Fatherland, oblivion and vegetation in exile as political slaves of the camp of Russia's geopolitical enemies.
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  1. sen
    +39
    23 June 2022 11: 08
    How the special operation exposed the split of the Russian elite and people

    CBO is an opportunity to separate the wheat from the chaff. It is necessary to drive the Western liberals out of leadership positions.
    1. -17
      23 June 2022 11: 32
      Is it Putin or what do we have a Western liberal?
      1. +6
        24 June 2022 04: 48
        Alas. Half so far - YES.
        1. 0
          26 June 2022 10: 45
          What does half mean? The country achieved the greatest progress per unit of time under Stalin, who considered himself a centrist. Extremes are harmful in any case.
      2. -1
        25 June 2022 10: 29
        Quote from: stirrer
        Is it Putin or what do we have a Western liberal?

        In fact, the statesmen admit that the Liberians may think so, but you need to get off the site so as not to get in trouble.
    2. +7
      23 June 2022 12: 23
      Question: who will determine - who is who? And in what form: how is lustration in Ukraine, when officials were pushed into garbage cans?
      1. +13
        23 June 2022 12: 50
        During the war, merchants without exception become the fifth column
        The assembly became a meeting place for an elitist counter-revolution,
        This oritka - to the wall! am
        1. +5
          23 June 2022 14: 35
          And who controls state propaganda? Elite. So all the moods of people, including those for the NWO, are also the result of the work of the elite. And the fact that she herself, an elite, is not trying very hard. Well, there is no other. All in their extreme huts.
          1. +11
            23 June 2022 15: 28
            Quote: Civil
            Well, there is no other.

            And no one named it!
            1. +2
              24 June 2022 07: 20
              Quote: Uncle Lee
              Quote: Civil
              Well, there is no other.

              And no one named it!

              But the fact that? Let's kneel near the house - will we protest?
              1. +1
                24 June 2022 09: 00
                Quote: Civil
                Let's get on our knees

            2. +2
              25 June 2022 14: 16
              Quote: Uncle Lee
              Quote: Civil
              Well, there is no other.

              And no one named it!

              Note. No one elected systemic liberals, no one voted, but for some reason they are all in power. I have never heard that the people support our elite, or together with it. There is not a single link in this chain.
              1. +3
                25 June 2022 14: 20
                Quote: SKVichyakow
                I have never heard that the people support our elite

                That's it! She appointed herself and leads!
        2. +16
          23 June 2022 22: 02
          Well, put Makarevich against the wall, that they will steal less in the Moscow Region and the military-industrial complex? What is Serdyukov, working for the good of the motherland? And how many lars does Shoigu's daughter master in Kronstadt?
          The most disgusting thing is that those elites who plundered everything and asked ... are now sending our boys to war. Yes, such exactly to the wall should be.
        3. +2
          25 June 2022 10: 36
          No need for a wall.
          It’s better to let them fell, run, fly, swim, but this should be their conviction that they will find happiness over the hill.
          And we’ll save the investigators’ time, and the ammunition costs money, and we don’t need to produce martyrs - why generate compassion if the liberda suddenly starts to gather in crowds, and so they all - each on their own and there is no unifying nasty force.
          1. 0
            25 June 2022 18: 59
            are you a civil servant?
      2. -4
        23 June 2022 20: 32
        Winner
    3. +7
      23 June 2022 12: 25
      Quote: sen
      It is necessary to drive the Western liberals out of leadership positions.

      List, please, in the studio!
      1. +9
        23 June 2022 13: 56
        List, please, in the studio!

        The beginning of the list in the article, you can supplement.
        1. 0
          26 June 2022 17: 13
          This list
          Quote: Mikhail Sidorov
          List, please, in the studio!

          The beginning of the list in the article, you can supplement.

          This list is from the early 90s, you have to be very brave to broadcast it again and again. Did new ones appear or are the same actors and performers?
    4. +14
      23 June 2022 12: 49
      And not just drive - plant! For many of them, for a long time, the article of the Criminal Code "weeps" and the camp barracks.
      1. +2
        25 June 2022 10: 38
        Don't be so strict with them!
        It will be enough if he simply signs an act on the voluntary surrender of all property to the state.
        Including the fact that Zaregino is offshore
    5. +11
      23 June 2022 16: 58
      In two years there will be elections, but you will again vote for the Western liberals.
      1. -4
        23 June 2022 22: 37
        It’s not a fact why someone should vote for liberals, we have smart young people, we need to give talented young leaders the opportunity to prove themselves, and these snickering liberals and overstayed managers of all stripes must be driven without looking back, all this bureaucracy of theirs is already unbearable to everyone I'm tired of it, it can't go on like this anymore, we need reforms, we need new competent and honest leaders who are able to implement all these reforms.
      2. -6
        24 June 2022 09: 44
        Quote: Gardamir
        you will again vote for the Western liberals.

        laughing Well, not for Platoshkin and Grudinin!
      3. +1
        25 June 2022 10: 44
        So why are you so skeptical?
        Many again will not mind voting for a couple of terms for GDP, although the "free world" will again begin to squeal about autocracy - isn't it necessary to vote for a can?!
    6. 0
      23 June 2022 17: 47
      Quote: sen
      How the special operation exposed the split of the Russian elite and people

      CBO is an opportunity to separate the wheat from the chaff. It is necessary to drive the Western liberals out of leadership positions.

      1. Who should do it? Surname(s) to the studio.
      2. Why doesn’t he drive (drive)?
    7. The comment was deleted.
    8. +4
      26 June 2022 00: 10
      I am German and very impressed by this sharp analysis. This prompts me to comment on your opinion that chaff should be separated from wheat from a German point of view. On the one hand, this discussion in Russia is very old. Since the time of Peter the Great, there has been debate about how open Russia should be to the West. On the other hand, new phenomena such as "supranational structures" and "individualization" were added as general maxims of life after World War II.
      In many countries outside of Russia there are almost no national feelings. In Germany, for example, there are politicians who demand the exclusion of the term "German people" from the German constitution! Germany, and indeed most of Europe, has been transferring more and more national decisions to the EU and other structures in recent decades. An overemphasis on individuality has led to hedonism and self-denial. The German people have been shrinking by about 30% in every generation since 1970 (birth control pills). This means that the "original Germans" will cease to exist around the year 2.
      In Russia after World War II, both were different. After the Soviet Union, Russia has always opposed too much supranationality and the loss of self-determination. Russia was also one of the few developed countries in the world whose population grew steadily without immigrants. Both are expressions of the still strong national-patriotic sentiment in Russia. The special operation is an expression of these sentiments and is therefore very important. In the long term, however, it is much more important to create a society in Russia in which normal families have 3 or more children and receive privileges for this. The "Western elites" in Russia have enough resources for this.
      1. +1
        26 June 2022 08: 17
        100500 ++++++ good good wonderful comments! I'll read it again and again! wonderful Russian language hi
        1. +2
          26 June 2022 10: 23
          Thanks for the comment. The Russian language is the result of my translation program www.deepl.com (a free German program). You can type whole texts there and they are translated in real time.
          I really hope that Russia will recognize the need to build a strong society with a high level of population replacement (at least 2,1 children per woman) as a strategic basis for securing the future and will act accordingly.

          Translated by www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
          1. +1
            26 June 2022 12: 00
            Quote from Harold
            ...... I really hope that Russia will recognize the need to build a strong society with a high level of population reproduction ......

            wink I am pleased to note that some families of acquaintances are implementing this program, having given birth to 2 children in a row. Now, in the summer, you can see such pictures: a young mother with a stroller for twins, or 1 in a stroller, the other, small --- by the handle. Sometimes you can see in nature, several young mothers, with prams and small children at once! It happens that each has more children than 2.
            I have not studied your program yet, but, from the point of view of meaning, morphology, syntax, word formation, phraseology, all sentences of your commentary, such that they fully correspond to the perception of the Russian reader, are easy to read, do not cause discomfort or misunderstanding.
            Thank you very much for this.
            1. +1
              27 June 2022 09: 05
              Nice to hear that www.deepl.com obviously works well for Russian as well. Therefore, what I would like to say will reach Russian readers without much loss.
              And I am even more pleased that you have so many observations in which the new generation of Russia is manifested.
              But it is important that society really gives preference to families with children. For example, children should be counted very generously in income tax cuts. Especially from the 3rd child. And public funds should be used primarily for families. Kindergartens, assistance in building houses and buying apartments, etc.
              All this existed in East Germany during the times of socialism. After the reunification of Germany, all this was no more, and the birth rate fell sharply in East Germany as well. Thus the nation abolishes itself.
              1. 0
                27 June 2022 12: 19
                Have a good day hi . We have state programs for children and families with children, but I can’t tell you exactly about them, because I’m not married. Watching the families of my friends and acquaintances, I can say that all children go to different classes. Paid or free. And it depends not on money, but how far from home. If near the house --- then this is the most important thing when choosing, not paying. It also works with medicine. It happens that you need to quickly, but you can’t get to the doctor. Parents take the child to a paid doctor.
                I live in St. Petersburg. And as on the periphery --- I do not know. I read on the Web about collapsing, closing schools. Somewhere children are taken to study in regional centers on school buses. And somewhere they walk. Destroyed schools, in my opinion, the worst thing.
                1. 0
                  27 June 2022 14: 28
                  I live in Alsace, which is in the east of the country on the border with Germany (it was German until about 1683, and then was conquered by the French army under the command of Louis XIV). In France, there are many opportunities to support families with children, such as kindergartens for children from 8 months old, preschools and schools. Schools are in good condition, in our village with 4000 inhabitants there are 2 kindergartens, a pre-school and an elementary school (up to grade 4). Children reduce income tax (not too much - but still more than in Germany). Result: French women give birth to 2,1 children, which is necessary to maintain the population in the long term. German women give birth to only 1,43 children. This means a gradual decline in population.
                  1. 0
                    27 June 2022 14: 53
                    Very interesting history of Alsace. Is it right to say
                    casus belli

                    About children. For example, in one family of my friends, a 12-year-old boy and a 10-year-old girl have been involved in sports sections since the age of 5 --- gymnastics, aikido, speed skating. And more --- drawing, modeling, photography. It's close to home, and it's free. But in another family, in the suburbs, there were no classes, and the parents took their son to St. Petersburg, and he was engaged for a fee --- ship modeling, robotics, English, swimming pool. They say that for the money, all these classes together = studying at the institute. From the suburbs, it was a long way for them to travel to the city, it’s good that their parents could take their son. Parents often work all day, and it's good for those who have a grandmother in the family who can take care of the children. You can hire a nanny to look after children, but there can be various problems with this, and they trust their own grandmothers more.
      2. +1
        26 June 2022 16: 19
        Excellent comment. I'll add a little. We are at home. In my opinion, those who were forced, for one reason or another, left their homes and households on the territory of Ukraine, those who went to the West, they are refugees, and those who go to the East, they are simply in their own country. In big Russia. At home. Power and the Russian Federation should only stir
  2. +29
    23 June 2022 11: 08
    what is the elite? those who managed to grab and settle in the deputies?? somehow sad ... but not to check whether they have the legality of obtaining diplomas, military and special ranks, dissertations ... and on the basis of this - to weed out the best from the worst
    1. +69
      23 June 2022 11: 58
      The author is here about the consolidation of different strata of society. Does the author even understand that "consolidation" can only be for the sake of something? For some purpose? And what is the purpose of "consolidation" now? Win in Ukraine? Tighten our belts, pretending that we don’t understand and don’t know those who brought the country “to the point”, and, like, under their own leadership, “survive” “hard times”? Well, let's say we won in Ukraine, then what? How will this victory affect the well-being and increase the well-being of the average person? Or will we have to be patient until we restore Ukraine again under sanctions and the Iron Curtain, and even with the population of this very Ukraine completely hostile to us? So why do we need "consolidation"? And who and with whom? Those with a salary of 35-55 thousand rubles and with a mortgage in the "man" and a credit "tattered" Lada and those who live in apartments with a minimum cost of several hundred million rubles and in houses located on areas of several tens of hectares? Yes, this will not happen. The people are not stupid, they understand that there is no real goal for "consolidation" and this "consolidation" is needed by the authorities and the rich only in order to have an uncomplaining herd for their feeding, the implementation of their Wishlist and as cannon fodder. But only. "A goose is not a comrade to a pig."
      1. -26
        23 June 2022 12: 18
        All lies, except for one, you are definitely not our comrade, Mr. Comprador!
        1. -15
          23 June 2022 22: 37
          He is not a comprador, but a follower of the priest Gapon. He himself escaped from the "hated country", built his fifth point in the warmth in America and is trying to rock the split in VO.
      2. +26
        23 June 2022 13: 23
        I suppose that a comrade political instructor is paid money for such agitation - the article painfully resembles other similar opuses from the cycle "rally around the master and tighten your belts!", which have become frequent lately.

        On the merits, I completely agree with you. The only thing, I would add, is that the very beginning of the NWO is the greatest failure of diplomacy and foreign policy in the last 20 years of the country's life. Although Clausewitz's idea that war is the continuation of politics by other means has already been beaten up, it is still correct. And now the almost final result of all the erroneous actions of the past is very clearly visible.

        But the politicians got a very weighty argument for shutting up all the doubters - the "special operation" will write everything off. Rising prices? So it's a special operation! No money to repair cities and infrastructure? Special operation! Do you want to live well and eat well? No time - special operation!
        1. +30
          23 June 2022 14: 45
          reminiscent of other similar opuses from the cycle "rally around the master and tighten your belts!", which have recently become frequent.
          Of course, what else? No real action, only tryndyn-tryndyn-tryndyn. Like - give us your money, your life for the sake of our future. Already across the throat is this "consolidation". the author forgot that the GDP and all members of his government are capitalists! They have ruined the production in the country and have been trying for 22 years on import substitution, they have ruined the education and reproduction of personnel, social elevators, etc. Just like before the First World War. Only then there was nothing of this, but they got it from the USSR. Under the USSR, there was something to fight for, for the future of their children. And now for the future of the children of the capitalists. Cool paradigm. Let them eat themselves, since they could not defend the interests of the state, defending the interests of their wallet.
          1. +20
            23 June 2022 22: 03
            I came across this verse on the Internet.
            "My carefree homeland,
            Silent glanders, without war and noise,
            Everything is back to square one.
            Sovereign... Police... State Duma.
            Everything again, like a century ago!
            The decorator did a great job.
            Leningrad again became Petersburg.
            The governor is back in his chair.
            Thousand what, today, year?
            Or was Fukuyama right about something?
            Again, the interest-bearer is taking money from us,
            Driving into debt.
            Again, deftly selling the goods,
            Summing up in my notebook,
            Someone rushes in a Mercedes to Yar,
            Someone again asks "For God's sake .."
            And they rise, through the ghostly haze,
            Like resurrected vampires
            Again the same faces as of old, -
            Merchants, officials, bankers.
            So everything that was - was in vain?
            Again the same troubles and misfortunes?
            There was no October at all,
            Belief in the ideal of Soviet power?
            We're back to the same times
            What seemed to be gone without a return.
            Again, as of old, divided
            The whole country is on the poor and the rich.
            Steeply to the right turning the steering wheel,
            Our ship is driven by the bourgeoisie...
            But for this, did my grandfather fight,
            Just like everyone else?
            Really, with cries of "Hurrah",
            They walked and melted into the snow,
            Just for the time has come
            To make money for hucksters?”
            Dmitry Pisarev.
            1. +5
              24 June 2022 08: 53
              Maybe I could say better, but I can't. Everything is on point!
      3. -8
        23 June 2022 14: 01
        How will this victory affect the well-being and increase the well-being of the average person?

        You generally asked the right questions in the comment. Did you think that the war would lead to better welfare? recourse How do you propose to resolve the issue in Ukraine?
        1. +12
          23 June 2022 14: 42
          How do you propose to resolve the issue in Ukraine?

          So it can first resolve issues in Russia.
          I remember there was a Soviet film about the war where Zhukov arrived in Leningrad and at a meeting of the defense council the first order he gave was to remove air defense guns and put them to fight tanks, to which they began to resent how we were going to defend ourselves from aircraft, and Zhukov answered which the point is to protect against aircraft if there are enemy tanks in the city. So with Ukraine, what is the point of solving something there, if we have a huge number of internal problems within the country in all areas of social sphere, medicine, transport, corruption, etc.
          1. -2
            23 June 2022 17: 21
            So it can first resolve issues in Russia.

            You are for all the good against all the bad. The war is already on. With Ukraine, what do you propose to do, how to resolve the issue?
            1. +6
              23 June 2022 17: 27
              Now I do not know all the options are bad. What would need to be done in my opinion or to carry out such a special. operation in 2014, when there were all the possibilities, or since you really want to protect the population in the LDNR, send troops to the territory of the LDNR within their borders until February 24.
          2. Eug
            +8
            23 June 2022 20: 43
            As for me, Ukraine is an attempt to externally solve internal problems.
            1. +1
              24 June 2022 08: 58
              As for me, Ukraine is an attempt to externally solve internal problems.
              Unfortunately, not only internal. But there is no war yet! laughing Officially. But as they announce, it means mobilization.
            2. GIS
              +1
              24 June 2022 09: 06
              those. you don’t consider the option when the hands of the Ukrainians repeated the 41st year? .... and if they hadn’t started first and stopped the attack on the Russian Federation, LDNR ???? then what would you sing?????
              1. -1
                26 June 2022 00: 01
                Well, Ukraine was not going to attack the Russian Federation, including Crimea, the West could not make such a gift to Putin. And in the LDNR for eight years in the Kremlin, by and large, everything was exactly the same in the LDNR, what has changed that they are so sharply preoccupied with their fate?
                Back in 2014, they held a referendum on joining Russia, to which Putin replied:

                Vladimir Putin appealed to the Donetsk and Luhansk militias with an appeal to postpone the consultations scheduled for May 11 with the population on the issue of separating these two regions from Ukraine.

                "We believe that the most important thing is to establish a direct dialogue between the current Kyiv authorities and representatives of the south-east of Ukraine, during which representatives of the south-east of Ukraine could be convinced that their legal rights in Ukraine will be guaranteed. And in this regard We ask representatives of the south-east of Ukraine, supporters of the federalization of the country, to postpone the referendum scheduled for May 11 this year in order to create the necessary conditions for this dialogue," the President announced in the Kremlin after a meeting with the President of the Swiss OSCE Chairmanship Didier Burkhalter.
                Putin also announced that Russia had withdrawn troops from the border with Ukraine and "this is easily verified using today's modern intelligence, including from space," and blamed the Kyiv authorities for the continued use of force against pro-Russian militias. He urged Kyiv to "immediately stop all military and punitive operations in the south-east of Ukraine," but did not reject the possibility of recognizing the presidential elections scheduled for May 25. The elections are "in themselves a move in the right direction," the president said, stressing that "they won't decide anything" if Ukrainians don't understand how their rights will be guaranteed in the future.
                As a result of the meeting, it was also decided that the OSCE would take over the coordination of contacts on the "road map" for Ukraine. The very same "road map" will be presented to all participants in the Geneva talks, that is, the European Union, Russia, the United States and Ukraine, "in the next few hours," Burkhalter announced.


                https://www.rbc.ru/politics/07/05/2014/57041c5d9a794761c0ce9ab6
                1. GIS
                  0
                  27 June 2022 11: 41
                  Quote from: stirrer
                  The West could not make such a gift to Putin
                  but they would simply "thin out" us by swami, bombarding us with an infection from biological laboratories and that's all (!!!) ... here you have no state
                  1. -1
                    27 June 2022 11: 46
                    Yes, yes, geese with deadly viruses would shit right on the Kremlin. This topic with biolaboratories faded even among such characters as Solovyov, Skabeeva, etc.
                    1. GIS
                      0
                      28 June 2022 15: 19
                      and what? Well, they shut their mouths and so what. we know how to read with you and do not refuse to believe our eyes. and then a simple logical chain: biolaboratory - viruses - pathogens - means of delivery - direction of delivery of the Russian Federation.
                      here I think any student will guess what it can threaten.
                      Or are you missing something here? confessions of responsible persons that they wanted to purposefully destroy the population of the Russian Federation? or all the same, calm down and take it for granted - that the states just don’t do ANYTHING. they don't give a shit about us, swami, even if the whole continent dies out. it is only a plus for them. for me, it’s better for them to repeat the fate of the tortured North American Indians whom they destroyed
                      1. -1
                        28 June 2022 15: 27
                        A schoolboy, having no education, can catch up with anything, and Russian scientists have unequivocally spoken out about the nonsense about bacteriological weapons.

                        The states just don't do ANYTHING. they don't give a shit about us, swami, even if the whole continent dies out. it is only a plus for them. for me, it’s better for them to repeat the fate of the tortured North American Indians whom they destroyed


                        The poor Indians were tortured, they still oppressed the Negroes, but what is all this for?
                      2. GIS
                        0
                        29 June 2022 07: 48
                        link to Russian scientists please
                      3. -1
                        29 June 2022 10: 45
                        Here is an example of Severinov:

                      4. GIS
                        0
                        30 June 2022 13: 25
                        is it about him?
                        https://www.sovsekretno.ru/articles/gen-pentagona-v-programme-vozrozhdeniya-rossiyskoy-nauki/
                      5. -1
                        30 June 2022 13: 42
                        "Top secret" ? You would have brought AIDS-info and REN TV.
                      6. GIS
                        0
                        1 July 2022 11: 18
                        and it was necessary and them?)))
                        so I think that's enough. when there is no smoke without fire
      4. +3
        23 June 2022 14: 04
        There is a sound grain in these reasonings,
      5. +15
        23 June 2022 14: 37
        And what is the purpose of "consolidation" now?

        The main goal is to rally around our “leader” even more strongly, to endure “a little more” everything, as in the classic “hard years go after them, others come, they will also be difficult.”
        1. +10
          23 June 2022 18: 47
          Quote from: stirrer
          The main goal is to rally around our “leader” even more strongly, to endure “a little more” everything, as in the classic “hard years go after them, others come, they will also be difficult.”

          Ordinary people don’t need these operations and Ukraine. Now the situation is zugzwang. And it’s impossible to go forward to victory and it’s impossible to surrender. In any case, Ukraine becomes a member of NATO and a hostile state.
          1. GIS
            -1
            24 June 2022 09: 08
            then tell it when the Ukrainians are gone. but for the time being it is not necessary to speak for the whole people. if there was no CBO, would you like a repetition of the 41st year: yes / no?
        2. -3
          24 June 2022 09: 00
          The main goal is to rally around our “leader” even more strongly, to endure “a little more” everything, as in the classic “hard years go after them, others come, they will also be difficult.”
          This is happening in Europe right now. Enough cannon fodder was brought there from the Middle East. They will put them into operation, the burghers into detachments and again solve the "Russian question".
          1. GIS
            +4
            24 June 2022 09: 10
            this is what is scary. now they will have to tighten their belts and get ready to gnaw at each other's throats for a warm place, here they will send their energy to the east - there is food and warmth, and in general it's all Russia is to blame for all the troubles ... I thought about this for a long time already. terrible forecast
            1. -1
              24 June 2022 09: 30
              this is what is scary. now they will have to tighten their belts and get ready to gnaw at each other's throats for a warm place, here they will send their energy to the east - there is food and warmth, and in general it's all Russia is to blame for all the troubles ... I thought about this for a long time already. terrible forecast
              Exactly, colleague. It started a long time ago. Even about 5 years ago, at the next gatherings (with a barbecue) there was talk about what was happening in Europe. As a person interested in history, especially WWI and WWII, he clearly showed that the same rhetoric began as before WWI and WWII. Only the surnames were different and we were called not Russians, but Bolsheviks and Communists. The most stubborn agreed, having climbed into the Internet. One of the members of the forum wrote: "This is the last "peaceful" summer.
      6. +7
        23 June 2022 21: 26
        Tighten our belts, pretending that we don’t understand and don’t know those who brought the country “to the handle”, and, like, under their own leadership, “survive” “hard times”?

        I recalled one quote from Pelevin:
        “Meanwhile, on TV they showed the same hari that had made everyone sick for the past twenty years. Now they were saying exactly the same things that they used to put others in jail for, only they were much bolder, firmer and more radical. Tatarsky often imagined Germany XNUMX, where Dr. Goebbels hysterically yells on the radio about the abyss into which fascism has dragged the nation, the former commandant of Auschwitz heads the commission to catch Nazi criminals, the SS generals simply and intelligibly talk about liberal values, and the Gauleiter of East Prussia, who has finally begun to see clearly, leads the whole shop. "
      7. -2
        23 June 2022 22: 40
        These are the speeches in English and in the American segment of the Internet under their personal data and regarding the degradation of the American establishment. Weak?
      8. 0
        24 June 2022 04: 55
        It's hard to disagree.....
      9. 0
        24 June 2022 09: 47
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        "A goose is not a comrade to a pig"

        And what do you, comrade American, suggest? Give up? Or do we not give up? Are we making a revolution? Or are we all going to visit you?
        1. +2
          24 June 2022 16: 24
          This can already be called a joke. The high-seated thieves who robbed the country began to be called the elite. I read about coffee "Elite" and even tried very tasty, but expensive. But what would a bandit from the main road be called elite, even in ancient times, there were many philosophers, they did not think of such a thing. Smart, generous, handsome, and I invented all this about myself. He looks in the mirror and spits, so as not to jinx himself. Is it possible to believe, to trust those who betrayed the country. Betrayed once, betrayed again. So the French bourgeois sold France to the Germans in order to destroy the revolution.
          1. 0
            27 June 2022 09: 32
            Quote: zenion
            the French bourgeois sold France to the Germans in order to destroy the revolution.

            So all the same, there will be a revolution ... or will it not???
      10. 0
        26 June 2022 18: 17
        Remember Prokhor Gromov from "Gloomy River". What goals did he set for himself, how he wanted to work not only for his own, but also for the public good! And what is the result? Only personal enrichment... This is called capitalism, and now - imperialism or globalism - call it what you want. But his goals are the same as those of Prokhor! Words words words...
  3. +20
    23 June 2022 11: 12
    On this basis, the interests of various strata of society fundamentally diverged, and the society was divided into patriots and compradors.
    This division has been around for a long time. Only now the venal skins are more clearly visible. They used to be in disguise. Now don't disguise yourself. It would be necessary for all those who pulled money out of Russia (mostly stolen) and donated it to foreign thieves-partners, handing over this money to them under the guise of sanctions, to determine the felling until they return to Russia what they gave to their accomplices -partners-thieves.
    1. +12
      23 June 2022 12: 09
      You are talking about the government and our power, or about some bad guys who stole, took out, allowed, closed their eyes. It's not clear how.
    2. GIS
      +1
      24 June 2022 09: 12
      I would give you 10000 upvotes for these words
      ps I hope Baranets manages to read the comments here
    3. +2
      24 June 2022 09: 34
      laughing Sergey, and who then will be left to plant democracy and lead the people "to a bright capitalist future?"
    4. +4
      24 June 2022 09: 56
      Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
      This division has already happened. Only now the venal skins are more clearly visible. They used to be in disguise

      And what can you say about tens of thousands of young people from 25 to 40, who rushed together with the beginning of the NWO to the countries of the near abroad? Who are they? Comprador elite .... or comprador non-elite ???
  4. +11
    23 June 2022 11: 23
    Actively donating to the needs of Ukraine is Roman Abramovich, who was seen at the Istanbul talks and it is not clear who he represents there, and Mikhail Fridman is trying to resolve the issue of obtaining Ukrainian citizenship and re-registering his assets with Kyiv.

    Well and what is it? First they stole everything from the state .. and now they are also sponsoring the ukrovermacht .. how can you calmly watch this. After all, all these oligarchs in our country can’t do anything but steal .. finger on finger .. they didn’t create anything in Russia with such money .. Damn mobile .. so take everything, confiscate it in favor of the Russian state, the path with bare booty go..
    1. +4
      23 June 2022 11: 31
      In the meantime, the colonels, smelling of gunpowder, cannot return to Russia or anything can be done, with the help of the police or something to crush the compradors.
  5. +14
    23 June 2022 11: 25
    yes, apparently "above" they began to realize the problem of "two worlds" inside the country,
    but nothing is being done, around only declarations of everyone and everything
    1. +10
      23 June 2022 13: 03
      And, in my opinion, they are so easy to manipulate public opinion ....
  6. +21
    23 June 2022 11: 31
    The future of Russia lies in the creation of a competitive political and technological center focused on all countries of the world, and Russia has much to offer in terms of advanced technologies and security guarantees.


    And what prevented Putin from creating this for 20 years in power. Who prevented the constitution from introducing a strict time frame for terms of office.
    1. +28
      23 June 2022 12: 21
      Putin has relied on the oligarchs and the security forces, and not on the whole people. Here is the result. The first ones have already betrayed him, and the second ones .... let's see, it's not evening yet.
      1. +13
        23 June 2022 12: 41
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Putin has relied on the oligarchs and the security forces, and not on the whole people. Here is the result. The first ones have already betrayed him, and the second ones .... let's see, it's not evening yet.

        That's right, if politics does not turn towards people and social justice, then there will be a war on two fronts, where it will be impossible to win ..
        1. -6
          23 June 2022 22: 41
          The pseudo-patriot echoes the resident of the United States, who is silent about the ugliness of the Western establishment. Weird things.
          1. -1
            24 June 2022 09: 59
            Quote: Okolotochny
            Pseudo-patriot echoes the resident of the United States

            In general, an interesting bunch of interests, and most importantly, historically correct!
        2. -1
          24 June 2022 10: 03
          Quote: Svarog
          it will be a war on two fronts

          Vladimir, since 2017 you have been throwing slogans about the second front here, it’s time for the spawners to show themselves ... just your time! Out and the American Monster supports you!
      2. +1
        24 June 2022 13: 29
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Putin has relied on the oligarchs and the security forces, and not on the whole people. Here is the result. The first ones have already betrayed him, and the second ones .... let's see, it's not evening yet.

        This is ridiculous. Putin is a representative and spokesman for the interests of big capital in the Russian Federation. What the fuck is reliance on the people? In the capitalist system, there is no such thing from the word at all.
      3. -4
        25 June 2022 16: 19
        The security forces are also different. There is the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and there is also the Armed Forces. I think the Ministry of Internal Affairs can be excluded. Yes, it's not over yet...
  7. The split occurred from the moment of "privatization" and loans-for-shares auctions - the "original" sin of the Russian "democracy", the fruits of which we are still reaping and no one has repented, which means that the sin will not be forgiven.
  8. +49
    23 June 2022 11: 35
    The very beginning of this operation is a terrible geopolitical defeat for Russia. Incompetent diplomats with the repeatedly overestimated Lavrov allowed the mutual slaughter of two Slavic peoples with a centuries-old common history, whose citizens have numerous relatives on both sides of the border. It was not only difficult to imagine such a thing - it was impossible. Who was appointed ambassadors to the most important country of the post-Soviet space? Swearing Chernomyrdin, who could not tie three words without a mat, and in Kyiv was engaged in drinking parties with his friends to tear apart "gas" money. And Zurabov, who ruined Russian healthcare at home. Chernomyrdin overslept the first Maidan, Zurabov the second. Both sent telegrams that “everything is in a bunch”: “who doesn’t jump is a Muscovite”, “Bandera put things in order” and “Moskal to Gilyak” - this is nothing to worry about, you should not pay attention. At the crucial moment, they chose the pathetic petty criminal Yanukovych - at a time when there was a whole "shark" at hand, Yulia Timoshenko - who was thrilled by Putin and signed gas contracts on fantastic terms (for which she was imprisoned). And which, unlike Yanukovych, is a "real man", would have crushed everyone on the Maidan with tanks without batting an eyelid. And now, at the time of the most difficult demographic situation in both Russia and Ukraine, dozens and hundreds of healthy young men are dying every day. All the dreams of the "Washington regional committee" have come true: the Slavs are killing the Slavs.
    1. +7
      23 June 2022 11: 51
      terrible geopolitical defeat of Russia

      Yes, when Russians kill Russians! But, I would not hang everything on Lavrov. First, active Ukrainization has been going on for a century. Secondly, he has bosses who have shared the loot for gas discounts with Ukrainian partners for only 30 years. That's why she "was thrilled by Putin and signed gas contracts on fantastic terms".))
      Those who stood up for the Russian world in 2014, fought and are fighting, betrayed, killed and are still considered second-class people, arming them with weapons of the late 19th century.
      So they write from the front:
      These very people, not someone else, heard from the political instructors sent by the Motherland: “You are all bandits and traitors here, you staged a rebellion against the legitimate government!”. They listened not on the Ukrainian radio, but from the Russians. Military. Sent to lead something.
    2. +4
      23 June 2022 12: 24
      Yulia Timoshenko - who was thrilled by Putin and signed gas contracts on fantastic terms (for which she was imprisoned).
      The prosecutor's office of the Russian Federation also wanted to plant her ... laughing
    3. -9
      23 June 2022 13: 34
      And what about Lavrov? The situation with Ukraine began to heat up since the beginning of the last century. There is such a metaphysical thing called "Nebopolitics", it quite sensibly explains the "overshoots" of the inhabitants of Ukraine, especially the western one. All peoples have their own egregors, that is, energy-information fields. In Western Ukraine there is a contact between Western Catholic and Eastern Orthodox civilizations. In the border regions, many people are born with signs of Western and Eastern mentality. Here is the ambiguous activity of V.V. Putin due to the fact that he was born on the border of civilization, hence his Germanophilia. If Russia wants to develop, then its leaders must come from the central regions of Russia, as far as possible from the borders with the West. Now about Ukraine. Daniil Andreev in his "Rose of the World" very accurately described everything that is happening in Ukraine. Unfortunately, Ukraine will leave completely, we have a different mentality. You can’t go anywhere, we will have fierce enemies at our side, and this, regardless of whether it was or would not have been NWO. This is how egregors work. So far, we do not have a civilizational idea that allows us to acquire new supporters in Ukraine.
    4. +9
      23 June 2022 15: 16
      That's right, Alexei. I don’t remember who said it, but it was imprinted in my memory - “Russia cannot be defeated from the outside. These Russians can only be defeated by other Russians ...”. These "others" are now standing in front of our guys. Evil, motivated by the Nazi-Bandera ideology, brainwashed - if they are still with these "French" (who does not know the meaning of this word - Google to help, I highly recommend). After all, the Donetsk people did not just take up arms - they knew what kind of infection these Galicians were dragging to them, degrading at the gene level in the third generation ...
      But what about them, if in 30 years we have also grown a "generation of Pepsi" and "victims of the Unified State Examination" ... Culture, mass media, TV? What are you talking about, this dump? Wasn't this what Maria Shukshina was talking about at her awards ceremony? A worthy daughter of a worthy father ... Bureaucrats listened to her with stone faces ...
      What is this if not genocide? They are not just trying to destroy us - with the hands of this "liberalism" they are trying to lower us to the level of a herd of degenerates - perverts, which they themselves and their masters are. Not only culture has been killed. Killed education, medicine... Has anyone been responsible for this? Rhetoric...
      Who, what a nonentity, came up with the idea of ​​calling the oligarchs-nuvorish "elite"? If this is the elite, then only thieves. Now they are being "skinned" by their owners, who did not let them go further than the "janitor" ... Cockroaches ran, hiding the stolen "overwork" on the snouts (Mordashov already drove his yacht out of the warm seas to the port of Vladik - his sidekick, Tolya-red, apparently he advised him before he dumped him.
      What do you think, from which side did Abramovich (by the way, also "skinned") end up in this company with Medinsky on this "agreement"? And a queue has already formed for him with "the lowest requests" to the White Lord ... There has already been a precedent. Remember this Andryushka Kozyrev, the so-called. "Minister of Foreign Affairs" under "EbeNka"? He also turned to the State Department with a request to provide a "green card" to his wife, explaining his humble request "... the precariousness of his position" ... History repeats itself, nothing new ...
      And the people ... What the people ... We are worried about our guys, we support them as best we can (he himself recently transferred a small amount on the Tsargrad resource from his pension) ... I was surprised, I will not hide, Irina Allegrova. She raised money for thermal imagers for our guys - Solovyov said this in his program - she got through to him through Simonyan ... Someone jumps "in Israel", someone hides the loot ... This is how we live.
  9. +4
    23 June 2022 11: 36
    After the capture of the RSFSR by the enemies of the communists, the people have long been split. Firstly, into supporters and enemies of the USSR, and the enemies of the USSR were divided into those who are in power and for power, and those who portray the opposition.
    Secondly, the enemies of the communists divided the people into "estates" on property and social grounds, and these "estates" hate each other.
    Thirdly, with the attitude to power, everything is not so rosy. Here, on the Internet, there are only paid bots for it, and those who are in Putin's VTsIOM and FOM for power are not able to adequately explain why.
    And with the NWO, the authorities still have not explained the specific goals to the people, only pathos.
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      1. +6
        23 June 2022 13: 15
        The communists CREATED the USSR, and their enemies slandered and destroyed the USSR in their Perestroika.
        And if the Bolsheviks were always open opponents of the existing government and the System, and openly captured Russia, then the enemies of the Bolshevik Communists pretended to be communists and their supporters for years and decades, and captured the USSR with the help of their eternal lies, slander, hypocrisy.
        1. +1
          25 June 2022 17: 45
          You wanted to say the Social Democrats created.
          “Before the Great October Socialist Revolution, the Bolsheviks acted under the slogan “All power to the Soviets!” committee, in whose name the October Revolution was accomplished. There is an opinion that in this way the transition was made from the people's power, represented by the Soviets, to the power of party committees, unaccountable to the broad masses of working people "
  10. +3
    23 June 2022 11: 47
    And they won't leave! A filthy broom for them will be the SECOND Donbass! They think they are irreplaceable ... with the skills to grab NOT YOUR OWN ??? Oh...how wrong they are!!!
  11. +23
    23 June 2022 11: 53
    What does the author understand by the word elite? In my understanding, the elite is an educated, advanced class of society and true to its duty to the Fatherland! And if the author means by the word ELITE all these Galkins, Pugachevs, Grefs, etc., then the author, in my opinion, is deeply mistaken! These are not elite! These scum snatched money from the state and society, and at the same time, receiving state awards from the hands of the President, they imagined themselves to be an elite, having no right to do so!
    I will quote here, almost verbatim, one remark that was said to me in a conversation by a former district policeman (rural), now a pensioner, who, by the way, retired with the rank of major.
    So he told me the following.
    - Who would I be at the state farm if I had not gone to the police?!
    Do not find wisdom in these words? And really, who would he be? Having no education!
    So it is with our imaginary elite!
    This is not an elite, these are the dregs of a healthy society who profited as best they could!
    1. +4
      23 June 2022 12: 23
      And really, who would he be? Having no education!

      And what, for a major in the police, higher education is not required?
      1. +4
        23 June 2022 12: 43
        Not always, but a fence-building technical school is required. A library one is also possible. smile
        1. 0
          23 June 2022 12: 49
          What kind of rural district police officer is this with the rank of major. Then he has the head of the regional department at least a colonel general?
          Rublevka or what? laughing
          1. +2
            24 June 2022 14: 10
            I can't speak for the chief of the district department. But the chief of staff of the regional department is a colonel, despite the fact that this is a woman! Nachgai is a lieutenant colonel, though he has already retired. I was always surprised by the ranks of the ranks of our police. And the material income, say, of a police major and a major of the Armed Forces.
            Yes, we still have a precinct (rural), major, still young ... He may become a lieutenant colonel. And also behind the vocational school belay
      2. +2
        23 June 2022 12: 45
        And he doesn’t even have a special secondary! Not the highest!
    2. +22
      23 June 2022 12: 26
      Those whom you have listed (Galkins-Pugachevs) have never been and are not any elite, this is theatrical bohemia. You probably remember the story of the "Luzhkov times", when Pugacheva was invited to sing at one gathering of "The Right People", and then they were not invited to the table, saying that she was paid and go for a walk or if hungry, then eat in another room with servants? She was then deeply offended. But this is an indication of the true attitude of "those in power" towards them. The "elite" in modern Russia meant and still means managers and government officials, the military, top-level security officials, as well as rich oligarchs and their relatives. That is, those who own state administration, the security sector, finance and the economy in Russia.
      1. +3
        23 June 2022 12: 46
        That is, those who own state administration, the security sector, finance and the economy in Russia.
        Means of production. And the Galkins and other "bohemians" are the "brain" of the nation .. laughing
    3. +9
      23 June 2022 13: 01
      Quote: your vsr 66-67
      - Who would I be at the state farm if I had not gone to the police?!
      Do not find wisdom in these words? And really, who would he be? Having no education!

      With all due respect, there are not many positions in any state farm that require education above school. And the fate of your interlocutor at the state farm would not depend much on education. Most likely, it meant that in the police he rose to the rank of major and early retirement, and at the state farm he would have been an ordinary tractor driver as long as his legs were walking. If I didn't sleep.
      Well, to serve a major without an education is, frankly, not an easy task.
      1. +2
        24 June 2022 14: 12
        I wrote above about the ranks of our police. Would you like to read...
        1. 0
          24 June 2022 14: 24
          Quote: your vsr 66-67
          Would you like to read...

          I’ll read it, of course ... But I myself can tell you how it is and what, more I still know every second from the regional department in the small homeland. And that's only because every first one in the last year or two retired. And EVERYBODY has (was) an education. Those who come without education simply do not receive officer ranks. Until they unlearn at least in absentia.
          1. 0
            28 June 2022 05: 38
            I know how they "learn"! A friend was a traffic cop (now retired). So, when they decided at the top that only officers and only those with education should be in the traffic police, and he was a foreman, he, without further ado, went to Tynda, to TZhT, and bought a diploma! All! Became a lieutenant! This is education for ALMOST everyone! Or do you think that a teacher training college is enough to become a lieutenant colonel?
            And further. If an officer has 20-30 servicemen in the Armed Forces, then what is his rank? Lieutenant, maximum starley! But the head of the regional scale has 23 subordinates. And what is his title? Lieutenant colonel! Corresponds to the commander of the regiment in the Armed Forces!!! Shelf!!!
            This surprises and shocks me! For what and about what they endow our valiant policemen with such titles, I don’t understand!
            And you?
            1. 0
              28 June 2022 08: 37
              Quote: your vsr 66-67
              I know how they "learn"! Another traffic cop was

              Your "beautiful knowledge" is based on one particular case? So I know more than a dozen special cases where people went through a full course of study to get an education and, accordingly, a rank and an officer position.
              Quote: your vsr 66-67
              there was a foreman, he, without further ado, went to Tynda, to TZhT, and bought a diploma! All! Became a lieutenant!

              Well, this is not the first year in the civil service there has been a procedure for verifying the authenticity of diplomas of education.
              So, in my opinion, all your "perfect knowledge" is based on the gossip of attendants at the entrance, but not in any way on real cases.
              Quote: your vsr 66-67
              Or do you think that a teacher training college is enough to become a lieutenant colonel?

              To become a lieutenant colonel, you need to graduate not from a college, but from a university. This does not include seniority.
  12. +17
    23 June 2022 11: 54
    Powerful! The author summed up the ideological base directly under Russian capitalism. Those. we have a split, it turns out, not between the worker and the bourgeoisie, but within the backbones themselves. No, there was a split there, of course, when the pipe was divided. Only those who have broken away are far away, while others are no more. They choked themselves in the bath.
    Read, author, Marx, Lenin, and Stalin. You will understand what goals the bourgeoisie has, what crime it is ready for and for what.
    And, by the way, the main patriot has repeatedly stated that he is an adherent of liberal values.
  13. -13
    23 June 2022 11: 56
    This is a well written article. Russian society has been marginalized several times, but has survived. He will survive this time and create something. We are strong, and I say to myself: "What would Stalin do?" I see in the discussion that you have not yet understood that this is the Motherland. am
    1. +14
      23 June 2022 12: 13
      No, it is written about the victory, but only ours. The author wants to reconcile the bottoms and the tops only because it is very necessary, otherwise it is scary for some to become. Late camps of irreconcilable parties took shape and we will see what awaits us.
    2. -1
      25 June 2022 17: 33
      No, we just do not separate the Motherland from the class essence of the state, from issues of social justice, from who owns the means of production. And we stand for the people's (Soviet) fatherland, and not for the oligarchic-bourgeois.
  14. +20
    23 June 2022 11: 58
    Lord comrades, go to hell with your mobilizations.
    In Russia, the capitalist system is exactly the same as in the West. Fighting for the extra income of cuts and millers?
    The proposal for unity is reminiscent of not so long ago fashionable team building in companies when employees are forced to learn the company's anthem to tell how they will overcome difficulties together, forgetting to add that the main shareholder or director will receive the main profit anyway.
    1. +13
      23 June 2022 12: 51
      In Russia, the capitalist system is exactly the same as in the West.
      Moreover, in Ukraine, exactly the same capitalist system, only there, they picked up the type of ideology, we have not yet decided on it. They are hoisting red flags, over administrations, monuments to Lenin, they are restoring them, and we have a mausoleum for May 9 with plywood close once again.
      1. +1
        23 June 2022 22: 08
        Quote: kor1vet1974
        Moreover, in Ukraine, there is exactly the same capitalist system, only there, they picked up the type of ideology, we have not yet decided on it.

        Well, why didn't you decide? Solzhenitsyn and Ilyin are already in the school curriculum. wink
    2. GIS
      +1
      24 June 2022 16: 49
      so you will have to fight FOR THE HOMELAND, and not for someone's pockets. these pockets will run away abroad if cho, but we and our relatives live here
  15. +7
    23 June 2022 12: 02
    It's funny about warriors and merchants. This suggests that the author and the character he quotes do not understand at all what power is and how it is held. It seems to them that power can be bought with money, naive people. Would you at least ask Yanukovych if money helped him to keep power?
    1. +3
      23 June 2022 13: 11
      Did money help him keep power?
      More precisely, money helped him, to retain power, sitting on a golden toilet. smile
    2. 0
      23 June 2022 21: 35
      Quote: Conjurer
      It seems to them that power can be bought with money, naive people. Would you at least ask Yanukovych if money helped him to keep power?

      Everything is elementary, Karl. It's just that the West had more money.
  16. +7
    23 June 2022 12: 07
    Special operation in a natural way exposed the true face of the ruling class and showed that it would no longer be possible to live in the old way. The comprador elite, never understood by the people, is doomed and already with a scandal leaves the stage itself.

    What an interesting observation ... Is there an exact name for the event held in S-P called SPIEF - a feast during the plague.

    Imagine the Yalta conference, where they invited Japan, Romania, Germany, Italy ... all the Nazi satellites to the gatherings.
    And what do you think the "Scarlet Sails" look like against the backdrop of shelling of civilians in the Donetsk, Luhansk republics, Rostov region? Object to me, real patriots, that you can’t stop life and spoil people’s holiday. This is so understandable: for some - volleys of MLRS and attack drones, for others - balloons and evening fireworks ...
    *****
    The SO showed that all the hardships and deprivations were once again placed on the shoulders of ordinary citizens, while demonstration performances and speeches from TV screens fell to the share of the liberal part.
    Only this chatter does not change anything in the situation. Moreover, the impression was created that all these secret multi-steps and cunning answers do not have a real form, a real embodiment at all. It is completely clear who is pulling the mosquitoes there, and who is solving the problems of restoring and generating income from steel production, where the territory has not yet been cleared.
    It is the West that has been training Ukraine for decades like a watchdog. It was the West that accepted all six suitcases of sanctions in order to provide the Russian people not only with a miserable life, but also to deprive them of the country, the country of statehood, statehood attributes with the complete collapse of everything and everyone ...
    Continuing to take care of the European economy against the backdrop of a ban on Russian railway transit to the Kaliningrad region - isn't that crazy?
    Tell me, VO users, which of you sponsored the NM of Donbass on the site https://pobeda.onf.ru?
    Or did you hear how those "patriots" rushed to buy what was needed for the people's militia?
    GDP said (stated) that the liberal path of Russia's development was wrong, and what's next? We have only two choices: to continue what the EBN started and a radical turn towards a socially just economic formation that excludes the exploitation of man by man for the purpose of personal enrichment.
    Gold, which leaves the country in tens of tons and works for no one knows who, originates here:

    What and to whom will remain as a result of such extraction?
    *****
    No one will leave on his own and will not give up power, for which a lot of blood was shed in the 90s ...
  17. -11
    23 June 2022 12: 11
    .... Statements on the forum of iconic compradors are striking in their cynicism. So, the head of the Central Bank Nabiullina believes:

    “... in order not to return to the Soviet Union, you need to take a different look at private initiative ... at everything related to the development of private initiative. If it is allowed to manifest itself, then there will be the development of technologies, and the development of innovations, and what we call modernization.”

    That is, this lady with the mentality of a cook asserts with aplomb that modern technologies should be developed not by the state, but by some private entrepreneurs!

    Gref went even further, stating that

    “if nothing is done, then the return of the Russian economy to the level of 2021 may take about 10 years.”

    And these "former" can lead Russia to new frontiers?.......

    These state officials are constantly supported and received with reports by the President of Russia V.V. Putin. I do not understand how this online publication allows you to denigrate the actions of the President of Russia. Tell him what to do and how. This is clearly an enemy of Russia and the Russian people by the author. I would ask the NKVD to deal with him and his henchmen.
  18. +20
    23 June 2022 12: 11
    The author, what are you talking about, some dreamer troublemaker. None of them will give up power under any pretext other than life or death. 1993 showed how this elite, which no one appointed, would defend its power.
  19. -4
    23 June 2022 12: 15
    Shit written. At first, everything seems to be correct and adequate, and then everything falls into Black Hundred nonsense and dumps the digitalization of the economy, vaccination of the population, Putin, Chubais, comprador elites, calls for the destruction of the elite, and so on. The article is largely provocative and actually calls for a coup. It is very reminiscent of articles and appeals of revolutionaries in the First World War.
  20. +1
    23 June 2022 12: 28
    During the war, merchants without exception become the fifth column, insist on holding humiliating negotiations and stand up for an immediate ceasefire and the conclusion of an "obscene" peace.


    The comprador bourgeoisie, or "merchants", are much more dangerous than the "Fifth Column".
    The "fifth column" directly hurts impudently, such as Navalny, Tikhanovskaya in Belarus, they directly oppose the authorities, against the people, the Russian "party" works softer, but it is also visible, but the "compradors" act silently, stealthily and their difficult to identify. They are connected with the Ukrainian, Kazakh, European and American elites. But there is more harm from them, even from obvious enemies of the Russian state, and they are hard to find.
  21. +18
    23 June 2022 12: 29
    The assembly has become a gathering of elite counter-revolution, suffering from phantom pains and knocking from the bottom of the "elite".
    and the President of the Russian Federation at this meeting in the role of whom? Revolutionary or counterrevolutionary? Those. the president separately, and the elite created by him separately? Oh, yes, the President with Gref and some others did not work together under Sobchak in St. Petersburg, this is different ... laughing
  22. +19
    23 June 2022 12: 34
    The author of the article is about "mobilization of forces and resources". and Putin at the St. Petersburg forum said that it is necessary to permanently abandon the planned inspections of Russian business. And these "businessmen" will mobilize in their pocket. Even now, they will either burn people in a nightclub, or kill them in a mine, or poison them. And knowing that there will be no checks, they will turn around with might and main.
    1. +2
      23 June 2022 12: 43
      This capitalism, which is murderous for Russia and the Russian people, is very beneficial for the enemies of the communists who have seized the RSFSR.
      Firstly, during his time they pumped colossal money out of Russia and the Russian people.
      Secondly, they threw off responsibility for Russia and its people, for what they did to them.
      And the ideology of Putin's rule in the style of "The tsar is good, these are bad boyars", "enemies all around" is also throwing off responsibility from Putin for what he did to Russia and the people.
  23. +13
    23 June 2022 12: 43
    Merchants in the power structure - two-thirds, if not more. They hang on the hands of warriors, sabotage and distort everything that is necessary for victory. In such a situation, it is important that the merchants, for the sake of personal gain, not achieve the curtailment of the special operation, and the moment of truth will be their unconditional removal from the imperious Olympus.


    The whole problem is that the Kremlin has never gotten rid of and is not going to get rid of "corrupt merchants" before.
    Merchants retain all financial and production structures, media, culture....

    Until the purge starts from the highest echelons of power, nothing will change, now the "merchants" will quiet down, but will continue to do everything in their own way ...
    The people see everything, understand perfectly and at the right time will support the steps to remove the merchants, the people have experience !!!

    For a major change
    the situation in the country needs a complete change of the entire system of power, and for this the thousand-headed bureaucratic-aligarhic octopus must be separated from government,
    but the whole problem is that this octopus forms the backbone of the current "vertical of power" and will defend itself to the last Russian .....
    1. +15
      23 June 2022 13: 12
      I am sometimes surprised by the selective memory and selectivity of the desire to hear only them "correct" for many here on the forum. Especially among "Putinolyubov". They don’t even want to hear about the root cause, why the Kremlin, which has been trying for so many years and even put forward this as a “doctrine” of Russia’s movement for the next century, to fit into the world market, suddenly, it’s not clear why, quarreled with the West. Without understanding the root cause, it is impossible to understand all subsequent events and what the West really wants from us, and not according to the version of Kisel-Nightingale TV. Without understanding this and focusing on the hysteria fanned by propaganda, it is impossible to find common ground and ways to solve problems and overcome the crisis. The situation will only get worse and could end very, very badly for everyone.
      1. -7
        23 June 2022 22: 45
        You got it already, provocateur. Do you live in America? Well, give a description of the American presidential administration? You rushing from the fact that Putin Biden and the whole West dipped in shit. You are paying for this now. Your familiar world is crumbling. Don't worry, you'll switch to food stamps soon.
    2. +7
      23 June 2022 13: 17
      Merchants retain all financial and production structures, media
      Gas, there, is dripping slowly, through the country against which the NWO is directed. Buyers supply.
  24. +6
    23 June 2022 12: 43
    And before the special operation, we might think we didn’t know xy from xy?
  25. +12
    23 June 2022 13: 03
    Firstly, money in the morning - chairs in the evening, money in the evening - chairs in the morning, not vice versa. If, after 30 years of the country's degradation, the "elite", even if its "patriotic" part, wants some kind of mobilization and sacrifice, then it must itself take the first steps towards a meeting. Because this degradation is caused by the elite.
    Second, the
    Some believe that there is no patriotic elite in Russia. If this were so, then there would be no special operation ...

    This is if we consider that the NWO is something different from the classic imperialist mess, where the oligarchs solve their problems.
  26. +1
    23 June 2022 13: 10
    Question: who will do all this?
    1. +13
      23 June 2022 13: 55
      Absolutely true - "cadres decide everything." Now we need knowledgeable people who really understand the real situation, and not drawn by Rosstat, understand and know the levers of control for certain sectors of the economy and finance, who can operate in a real environment of restrictions and who can quickly respond to changes, as well as who can pick up commands for themselves in help. Do you see such people now in the Kremlin and in the management of the sectors of the economy and finance? They are not here! The same deck of characters is shuffled, and, what is most surprising, even those who escaped from it are not considered as dropped out, but are considered as "temporarily absent"! Directly sur some! Now there is some shuffling at the top and what do we see? Do you think professionals are being sought and with their teams appointed and promoted to sectors where breakthroughs are needed? No matter how it is, the gentlemen from the bodyguards, the FSO and the security forces are moving forward, like they will sort everything out. Destroyed, yes. But the problem is so deep that it is not even clear how to resolve it at all, because it is in the most formed "vertical of power", which rejects "foreign people" and does not allow them to act against the principles of the existence of this "vertical" that have been formed over these 20 years - contempt for the lower , the protection of those involved, all primarily for the sake of personal enrichment and well-being. But it is precisely this very "vertical of power" that is the basis of the entire statehood of Russia! There is absolutely no turnover in it according to the results of an assessment by the citizens of the Russian Federation, and a turnover is laid down only if the boss is dissatisfied. In this system, it is impossible for even a competent professional to appear, but from the "street". It is a completely self-contained system. And like any closed social system, it is subject to degeneration.
      1. +6
        23 June 2022 14: 04
        They wrote everything correctly. There is no one to work. Everyone only wants to earn money.
  27. +9
    23 June 2022 13: 14
    Some believe that there is no patriotic elite in Russia. If this were so, then there would be no special operation, but the decision to carry it out was made, and it is being implemented by specific people not only on the front line, but also in the elite.

    Therefore, it has been implemented for 4 months, our troops are slowing down with everything they can (hello, humanitarian corridors for the families of militants), T-62s with BMP-1s go into battle instead of armats and boomerangs, and there are no strikes on the center of the adoption, but on our borders are constantly shelled

    Or the author about the jingoistic elite? So she has nothing to do with the patriots
  28. +2
    23 June 2022 13: 26
    Until there are fully state-owned enterprises, with fixed prices, nothing will change. Just like the dollar is now a benchmark, so the state, through its enterprises, must show how much it costs. No one sells cigarettes now for more than the price on the pack.
  29. +7
    23 June 2022 13: 35
    Quote from: stirrer
    Is it Putin or what do we have a Western liberal?

    "Grandmas, grandmothers must be done!"
  30. kig
    +9
    23 June 2022 14: 34
    The former are ready to fight and defend an independent and original way of development of Russia, the latter dream of surrendering to the mercy of the winner.
    somehow everything is simple with the author - there are only two groups of people. Those who support the operation are, of course, our people. And those who want to surrender to the winner. It is not clear, however, which winner and in what he won, but oh well. Maybe among the "elite" it is so. The author used this term many times, but again it is not clear who he classifies as an elite and on what grounds. This concept has at least two interpretations: these are either people with real power and influencing political processes, or these are people with talents, abilities, and high intelligence. Judging by the text, the author's "elite" does not belong to any of these definitions.

    But the elite, whoever it may be, simply cannot be numerous. The bulk of the population are those who can be called "ordinary people", and it is for their joyful, happy and safe life that the elite tries their best. Well, at least that's how she says it. Or do we not believe her? Be that as it may, it is very interesting to somehow find out the opinion of this particular huge segment of the population about what is happening. If only because there are so many of them. In theory, it is to their opinion that the "elite" should listen - must it somehow find out where to lead the people?

    All these nameless inconspicuous people have their own opinion on any actions started by the elite. They don't shout "let's kill all Ukrofascists", they don't organize demonstrations for peace, they don't discredit the valiant Russian army. They just live, walk the streets, drive cars and the subway, and if they are drafted into the army, they will go to war. But they have their own opinion. For example, our local online publication conducted a survey a couple of days after the start of the CBO. The results were very interesting:



    Now, of course, people's opinions have changed. But in which direction, no one will tell the elite. And she won't ask. What for? As Zhvanetsky said: we ourselves write your reviews about us. So don't worry, we know your opinion.
  31. +4
    23 June 2022 14: 38
    I read up to the merchants and warriors and realized that there was no point in reading further. The author divided it into black and white, probably forgetting about Minin and Pozharsky. Merchants are different, some are ready to give their last for the good of their homeland, although if merchants mean presidential raw material oligarchs, then everything is correct, everything is clear, there is definitely no conscience and patriotism there.
  32. +2
    23 June 2022 15: 40
    The propertied class is divided into billionaires and millionaires. And they are all dollar ones. Until recently, we had one hundred thousand dollar millionaires. Some of them left. This is a lot of money that millionaires cannot realize at their discretion. say, "Be a little more modest." Your high-society game will not lead to good. Our ideologists should learn from the Iranians, who live no richer than the poorest Iranian.
  33. +2
    23 June 2022 16: 04
    In addition, the majority of the liberal elite has either publicly condemned the special operation, or pointedly and defiantly keeps silent. Many simply flee from Russia. Among those that are well known are Chubais, Yumashev, former vice-premiers of the government, senior officials of Sberbank, Gazprom, VTB, Yandex, and many other officials of state and near-state structures.

    And here questions arise that no one wants to answer - why do they have the opportunity to escape? After all, many of them (for a second!) Are carriers of state secrets and other strategic information. Often these are key employees in their areas of government activity. And they just let go...
    If you let go, then only after a complete brainwashing and memory erasure. Let them grow somewhere in the flower beds in London-Paris.
  34. AAK
    +2
    23 June 2022 16: 22
    Yes, they have already said this 333 times, from Solovyov to VO, well, what is the result? And who will peck whose eyes? The people are tired of this bunch of germs of pubic lice for a long time, but who will let us enroll in the 5th column, and most importantly, take measures against them?
  35. +4
    23 June 2022 16: 42
    Judging by the fact that banks (especially Sberbank) block the accounts of volunteers, and customs officers create problems for them at the border, there are much more willing to accept Katz's proposal in our top circles than we would like.
  36. -4
    23 June 2022 16: 52
    And thank God! There is a breakdown not only of the "Fashington" world order, but also the cleansing of our society from nits and scum.
  37. -1
    23 June 2022 17: 46
    Civil war - sir. And the war with the West for existence. One thing that strikes the people is that it has long understood everything, either or. The elite must be changed and the liberals driven with a filthy broom, this is the meaning of the victory and survival of the peoples of Russia. The question is who will carry out this process.
  38. +1
    23 June 2022 18: 04
    Quote: kor1vet1974
    And the Galkins and other "bohemians" are the "brain" of the nation ..

    Rather, it is th ... but the nation ... wink
  39. +4
    23 June 2022 19: 21
    Quote: tank64rus
    . The elite must be changed and the liberals driven with a filthy broom, this is the meaning of the victory and survival of the peoples of Russia. The question is who will carry out this process.

    Everything is correct. Only fools - idealists who want to suffer "for the happiness of the people" - no longer exist. The people don't care.....
    1. +1
      23 June 2022 22: 25
      Quote: ivan2022
      Only fools - idealists who want to suffer "for the happiness of the people" - no longer exist.

      Ivan, the idealists are now just in power and their dime a dozen, but with the "materialists" now there is a shortage after the surrender of all the gains of socialism by the party nomenklatura.
  40. -1
    23 June 2022 20: 46
    The split of the elites - I understand this, but what broke away from the people are renegades.
  41. +2
    23 June 2022 20: 47
    Yeah, now they are only in Russia and will build their castles with golden toilets and yachts, since their owners were allowed to be classified!
  42. -4
    23 June 2022 21: 34
    Thanks to the author for the current article! It is difficult to disagree with the arguments and facts that the author published ... Yes, the majority (!) of the people of the Russian Federation - fully support their President and the NVO, but the pro-Western (I do not argue ... there is also a patriotic ...) elite - fooling around ... V.V. Putin quite recently - openly called a spade a spade and warned the pro-Western snickering caste of Russia about the consequences of their unpatriotic (to put it mildly ...) actions. NWO is very serious and by and large - there (in Ukraine) NOT ONLY the fate of Russia, but of the WHOLE World is being decided ... We all need to wake up and unite ALL of Russia, the CSTO, the EAEU - into one powerful fist. I repeat - the West is not joking against Russia and there (in the West) very cynical, cruel and pragmatic puppeteers rule from the "shadow". The West probably also has a plan "b" against Russia in case Russia wins the NWO. Look at how impudently and impudently the most powerful NATO MEMBERS behave during the NWO - the USA, England, Poland (supplies heavy weapons), Turkey (capitally helped the Armed Forces of Ukraine with drones and not only ...), Germany, France, the same Orthodox (! ) Greece (very sorry ...). Each of these large NATO MEMBERS (+ Japan in the East) has almost half a million heavily armed army, which stand almost along the entire perimeter of Russia with sharpened fangs ... NATO is clearly preparing for a big war against Russia, since the stakes (resources of the Russian Federation + world domination) are very GREAT and delay for them (NATO) is like death, since the Russian Federation and China have got on their feet and will continue to intensify. Even if after NWO, there will be a couple three relatively peaceful years, then the contours of a large world nix are already visible on the horizon and this bloody world batch will again begin a war against Russia ... God forbid, of course ... The war in Ukraine, unfortunately, is a civil war between fraternal Slavic peoples. ..This is very similar to Western reconnaissance in combat against Russia, where the human and material resources of Ukraine are consumables ... I am more than sure that the RF Armed Forces will sooner or later win in the NWO. Yes, not everything is going as smoothly and quickly as many in the Russian Federation would like ... But, the cause of Russia is right and Russia will WIN! The author is right that after the NWO it will not be possible to live the same way as before the NWO ... Unfortunately - at the time of the beginning of the NWO in the Union State there are only two (!) Countries, that is, Russia and Belarus, but it is necessary that there would be at least 13 ... And then the West with Ukraine (whose brains are clouded by Western ideology and she dared to raise her hand against Russian brothers in the DPR and LPR and this has been going on since 2014 ...) - they wouldn’t dare to themselves so freely and arrogantly lead. After the NWO, Russia will simply be obliged and forced to remember and reanimate all the best and good that was in the USSR so that the Union State of the Russian Federation and Belarus becomes more attractive to the new states from the CSTO and the EAEU. There is no alternative. Together we are stronger!
  43. 0
    23 June 2022 21: 58
    In our country, the concepts of liberal and elite have become common nouns. Because those people who consider themselves to these "classes" are by and large not interested in the prosperity of the country and its population. I think that if you dig well and thoughtfully against them, there will be cases for everyone under the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
  44. +4
    24 June 2022 00: 37
    The author, apparently not wanting it himself, irritated his soul ...
    The potency is good, the act itself is not very successful. Without citing quotes from this article, but there are a lot of them here, and after reading what readers reacted to, the conclusion suggests itself: is everything said the way it should be said? Isn't the author afraid to go too far and get on the list of some Russian "Peacemaker"?
    And the topic of the quality of Putin's power for today is a downhole topic!
    The gradation into "merchants" and "warriors", it seems to me, is not quite what exists today. And Russia needs victory in this war not with Ukraine, but with the West, primarily with the United States, like air, otherwise we will be bent like a ram's horn. But whether this victory will be under Putin's power is a big question ...
    1. Putin is the flesh of the flesh of this power, enthroned by this kleptocratic power, blessed for the eternal posthumous rule of the "family" of EBN, and not shunning any means of maintaining this power.
    2. For some reason, no one in their articles and comments refers to his "friends" in the cooperative "Lake" and the St. Petersburg mayor's office. But it is they, my friends, who have become the real and only "elite" that controls Putin from behind the scenes and decides what, where, when and how he should do. We all know their surnames, we also know who and how much stole from the people. They sit quietly, not sticking out, and stealthily do their job for the benefit of their personal pockets, unlike the Chief Dimon of Russia, who stupidly, stupidly, loudly shakes the air. And the Galkins, Kirkorovs, Makarevichs, Akhedzhakovs are not an "elite" at all, they are just hypocrites who are undeservedly given the same power, the same Putin is paid a lot of money, although their "merits" are worth much less.
    3. The main, main trouble of our state is corruption, rampant, hardened, ruthless to the people, unpunished by anyone. And why? Why, in all the years of the reign of this “grandmaster” of politics and economics, this “multi-move”, not a single political talk show even raised issues of corruption in our unfortunate Russia? Taboo? But both Medvedev and Putin himself have repeatedly loudly announced the "fight against corruption" and "poverty." Where is this "fight"? Where are the results? Unless the oligarchs were added year by year, even during the pandemic they managed to steal something. Only Navalny, despite the ambivalent attitude towards him, ruthlessly and boldly tried to get through to the brains of the people. Only now our “electorate” in the face of old grannies and grandfathers doesn’t watch YouTube, apparently you can’t save money on SMART TV. But they are the first early in the morning, with passports in their mouths, with posters “For Putin!”, go to the polls in orderly rows ...
    4. The main fault of this government is the thirty years of creating bedlam in politics, in the economy, in education, in healthcare, in the collapse of industry, with the simultaneous robbery of natural resources, from forests to gas, from top to bottom. Only one friend of our Elbasy, a “modest man” by the name of Muller, appropriated so much that it would be enough to treat all sick children in the country, forward for ten years ...
    5. The authorities blew Ukraine. Do you think that there are all banderlogs? Yes, half of the Russians are fighting there, with Russian surnames, speaking pure Russian. The entire diplomatic corps, headed by Lavrov, should be sent to the front for this, where they will immediately understand what they have been doing wrong for twenty years. This was unacceptable!! At the same time, they will understand the expression "beat first", as in the St. Petersburg gateway. But what a joy it is in the States to watch online from across the ocean how Russians cut each other's throats! The dreams of Kissinger and Brzezinski are coming true...
    6. As an option - what have you been waiting for eight years in the Donbass? The answer is they stole. And the mentality, principles and way of life of the head of the country turned out to be at the level of primitive gangster concepts invested in his brains by brothers from the nineties, in close unity with which these very principles were formed. The number of oligarchs, thieving officials with their yachts, palaces and estates, "kickbacks" and "cuts" of the state budget, just thieves at all levels in state structures determined the fate of Russia for years to come. So, how do you fix this now?
    The moral is this: power should change regularly, just like the president. A maximum of two terms of four years - this is established by life, and by the blood of many people and states. If we don’t want to go to heaven or hell ahead of time, we need to return all this to the constitution, and think better about the future, how we want to live.
  45. 0
    24 June 2022 00: 49
    Greif, pref, etc. the split as such is that Russia did not accept the 1991 UN resolution on the legalization of soft drugs. Blah blah blah - obviously overdose of anti-American and anti-European propaganda is being poured into the ears, trying to hurt, but the weak spot in all this hype is very simple. Canada, America, Uruguay, Poland, Czechoslovakia and a number of other developed countries do not suffer from the fact that an alternative to heavy narcotic alcohol has appeared and no one has gone crazy. But where does the hatred for the Russian people come from? Is this a feature of the rulers of this country? I can recall Ivan the Terrible - this one furiously chopped off the heads of Russians for possession of a forbidden potion - tobacco. The same thing is happening now, only in less bright colors - the boys are sitting in prisons for a jamb of grass. And the government with a sadistic smile continues to oppress clearly without weighing the meaning of respect. Alas, you will not understand what this means, because I think most of those who read the comment were processed by ardent media propaganda. And this is a split. They are afraid but not respected. Even ukrov with a human face was not visible - Zelik came, permission for medical marijuana went and went to crush and denify them. But it is not advertised - a simple key to these doors. In truth, you don’t have to say that you are drug addicts - because alcohol is one of the poisonous drugs and drug addicts are all who drink alcohol. Well, let them - they would open an alternative - they fulfilled the UN resolution of 1991. But the resolution of 1961 was fulfilled, the ban was introduced, the deadline was set. It turns out well - we love to punish in all ways, but who will come to pardon and love ???
  46. 0
    24 June 2022 01: 13
    Quote: savoj
    .... Statements on the forum of iconic compradors are striking in their cynicism. So, the head of the Central Bank Nabiullina believes:

    “... in order not to return to the Soviet Union, you need to take a different look at private initiative ... at everything related to the development of private initiative. If it is allowed to manifest itself, then there will be the development of technologies, and the development of innovations, and what we call modernization.”

    That is, this lady with the mentality of a cook asserts with aplomb that modern technologies should be developed not by the state, but by some private entrepreneurs!

    Gref went even further, stating that

    “if nothing is done, then the return of the Russian economy to the level of 2021 may take about 10 years.”

    And these "former" can lead Russia to new frontiers?.......

    These state officials are constantly supported and received with reports by the President of Russia V.V. Putin. I do not understand how this online publication allows you to denigrate the actions of the President of Russia. Tell him what to do and how. This is clearly an enemy of Russia and the Russian people by the author. I would ask the NKVD to deal with him and his henchmen.

    Apparently, you do not consider the state to be people, but mercenaries working in the machine of coercion. NKVD is your concept of the state. And the officials at the tables are also the state. Or would you like to see the Sovereign? Which declares - the state is me .. Apparently you are for real sadism. Not for free will.
    Your post about returning to the USSR, as well as Nabiulina's puns, are the same thing. The insinuations are far from the honest truth. Return to childhood. There is no way back - boys and girls. End the stories.
  47. 0
    24 June 2022 01: 17
    Quote: whowhy
    And, in my opinion, they are so easy to manipulate public opinion ....

    They learned to manipulate, but awareness is not turned on.
  48. 0
    24 June 2022 01: 59
    Quote from: stirrer
    How do you propose to resolve the issue in Ukraine?

    So it can first resolve issues in Russia.
    I remember there was a Soviet film about the war where Zhukov arrived in Leningrad and at a meeting of the defense council the first order he gave was to remove air defense guns and put them to fight tanks, to which they began to resent how we were going to defend ourselves from aircraft, and Zhukov answered which the point is to protect against aircraft if there are enemy tanks in the city. So with Ukraine, what is the point of solving something there, if we have a huge number of internal problems within the country in all areas of social sphere, medicine, transport, corruption, etc.

    So I see a lot of people being manipulated. They do not talk about their real problems, but write about what is needed. Their brains were eaten out. But the desire to get rid of mass hypnosis and illusion is there - it is always there. Spirit of time ! Ayy - who here learned to summon spirits? Kastanedovshchina was abandoned, but they were not allowed to think and weigh it .. So far ..
  49. +2
    24 June 2022 13: 48
    to what extent society is ready to make sacrifices and hardships

    Society may be ready. But the comprador power of home-grown bourgeois is categorically not.
  50. 0
    24 June 2022 16: 10
    While the proletarians of all countries tried to unite, the elites did it. What is happening is an "agreement" of the world elites for reformatting the planetary life-existence.

    P.S. I would be very happy to be wrong.
  51. 0
    25 June 2022 03: 42
    Business is primitivism. You can't jump higher than money... nothing. Hence the “isolation” of thoughts and “aspirations” both from the country and from the people. Carthage, from available history, precisely because of the priority of trading over the state, ultimately died near Rome. Its “elites” have been trying for centuries to “come to an agreement” with Rome, just to save money. Rome decided that it was necessary immediately and forever.
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  53. -1
    25 June 2022 16: 29
    Quote: vet
    The very beginning of this operation is a terrible geopolitical defeat for Russia. Incompetent diplomats with the repeatedly overestimated Lavrov allowed the mutual slaughter of two Slavic peoples with a centuries-old common history, whose citizens have numerous relatives on both sides of the border. It was not only difficult to imagine such a thing - it was impossible. Who was appointed ambassadors to the most important country of the post-Soviet space? Swearing Chernomyrdin, who could not tie three words without a mat, and in Kyiv was engaged in drinking parties with his friends to tear apart "gas" money. And Zurabov, who ruined Russian healthcare at home. Chernomyrdin overslept the first Maidan, Zurabov the second. Both sent telegrams that “everything is in a bunch”: “who doesn’t jump is a Muscovite”, “Bandera put things in order” and “Moskal to Gilyak” - this is nothing to worry about, you should not pay attention. At the crucial moment, they chose the pathetic petty criminal Yanukovych - at a time when there was a whole "shark" at hand, Yulia Timoshenko - who was thrilled by Putin and signed gas contracts on fantastic terms (for which she was imprisoned). And which, unlike Yanukovych, is a "real man", would have crushed everyone on the Maidan with tanks without batting an eyelid. And now, at the time of the most difficult demographic situation in both Russia and Ukraine, dozens and hundreds of healthy young men are dying every day. All the dreams of the "Washington regional committee" have come true: the Slavs are killing the Slavs.


    The entire Ministry of Foreign Affairs is a statement of fait accompli. The state of neighboring countries has not been controlled for a long time. Just talk and outrage. No one controlled the entire process of Chernomyrdin and Zurabov’s work. For so many years I have never checked..... And here is the reckoning.
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  55. -1
    25 June 2022 17: 34
    Quote: Spasatel
    The author, apparently not wanting it himself, irritated his soul ...
    The potency is good, the act itself is not very successful. Without citing quotes from this article, but there are a lot of them here, and after reading what readers reacted to, the conclusion suggests itself: is everything said the way it should be said? Isn't the author afraid to go too far and get on the list of some Russian "Peacemaker"?
    And the topic of the quality of Putin's power for today is a downhole topic!
    The gradation into "merchants" and "warriors", it seems to me, is not quite what exists today. And Russia needs victory in this war not with Ukraine, but with the West, primarily with the United States, like air, otherwise we will be bent like a ram's horn. But whether this victory will be under Putin's power is a big question ...
    1. Putin is the flesh of the flesh of this power, enthroned by this kleptocratic power, blessed for the eternal posthumous rule of the "family" of EBN, and not shunning any means of maintaining this power.
    2. For some reason, no one in their articles and comments refers to his "friends" in the cooperative "Lake" and the St. Petersburg mayor's office. But it is they, my friends, who have become the real and only "elite" that controls Putin from behind the scenes and decides what, where, when and how he should do. We all know their surnames, we also know who and how much stole from the people. They sit quietly, not sticking out, and stealthily do their job for the benefit of their personal pockets, unlike the Chief Dimon of Russia, who stupidly, stupidly, loudly shakes the air. And the Galkins, Kirkorovs, Makarevichs, Akhedzhakovs are not an "elite" at all, they are just hypocrites who are undeservedly given the same power, the same Putin is paid a lot of money, although their "merits" are worth much less.
    3. The main, main trouble of our state is corruption, rampant, hardened, ruthless to the people, unpunished by anyone. And why? Why, in all the years of the reign of this “grandmaster” of politics and economics, this “multi-move”, not a single political talk show even raised issues of corruption in our unfortunate Russia? Taboo? But both Medvedev and Putin himself have repeatedly loudly announced the "fight against corruption" and "poverty." Where is this "fight"? Where are the results? Unless the oligarchs were added year by year, even during the pandemic they managed to steal something. Only Navalny, despite the ambivalent attitude towards him, ruthlessly and boldly tried to get through to the brains of the people. Only now our “electorate” in the face of old grannies and grandfathers doesn’t watch YouTube, apparently you can’t save money on SMART TV. But they are the first early in the morning, with passports in their mouths, with posters “For Putin!”, go to the polls in orderly rows ...
    4. The main fault of this government is the thirty years of creating bedlam in politics, in the economy, in education, in healthcare, in the collapse of industry, with the simultaneous robbery of natural resources, from forests to gas, from top to bottom. Only one friend of our Elbasy, a “modest man” by the name of Muller, appropriated so much that it would be enough to treat all sick children in the country, forward for ten years ...
    5. The authorities blew Ukraine. Do you think that there are all banderlogs? Yes, half of the Russians are fighting there, with Russian surnames, speaking pure Russian. The entire diplomatic corps, headed by Lavrov, should be sent to the front for this, where they will immediately understand what they have been doing wrong for twenty years. This was unacceptable!! At the same time, they will understand the expression "beat first", as in the St. Petersburg gateway. But what a joy it is in the States to watch online from across the ocean how Russians cut each other's throats! The dreams of Kissinger and Brzezinski are coming true...
    6. As an option - what have you been waiting for eight years in the Donbass? The answer is they stole. And the mentality, principles and way of life of the head of the country turned out to be at the level of primitive gangster concepts invested in his brains by brothers from the nineties, in close unity with which these very principles were formed. The number of oligarchs, thieving officials with their yachts, palaces and estates, "kickbacks" and "cuts" of the state budget, just thieves at all levels in state structures determined the fate of Russia for years to come. So, how do you fix this now?
    The moral is this: power should change regularly, just like the president. A maximum of two terms of four years - this is established by life, and by the blood of many people and states. If we don’t want to go to heaven or hell ahead of time, we need to return all this to the constitution, and think better about the future, how we want to live.


    And there is nothing to argue with...... One question - What to do?
  56. 0
    25 June 2022 23: 43
    Quote: sen
    CBO ist eine Gelegenheit, die Spreu vom Weizen zu trennen. Es ist notwendig, die westlichen Liberalen aus Führungspositionen zu verdrängen.

    Ich bin Deutscher und sehr beeindruckt von dieser sehr scharfen Analyse. Ich unterstütze Ihre Forderung Spreu vom Weizen zu trennen. Dies Diskussion ist einerseits in Russland sehr alt, und andererseits zeigt sie den Kern des Kampfes Russlands um Identität und Selbstbestimmung im 21.Jahrhundert. Schon seit Peter dem Großen wird über den Grad der Öffnung zum Westen in Russland gestritten. In der Moderne seit dem Zweiten Welkrieg kam aber zunehmend die immer stärkere Einbindung der Nationen in internationale Strukturen und die radikale Betonung der Individualiserung in der westlichen bzw. "progressiven" Welt hinzu. Das Nationalbewusstsein ist in vielen Ländern außerhalb Russlands fast völlig verschwunden. Es gibt Deutsche Politiker, die die Entferung des Begriffes "Volk" aus der Verfassung fordern! Das Deutsche Volk - zusammen mit vielen anderen Völkern vor allem in Europa - hat sich seit den 1970er Jahren für Individualität entschieden. Ein Merkmal davon ist die geringe Anzahl von Kinder in jeder Generation. Die Deutschen - so wie man sie seit 1000 Jahren kennt, wird es deshalb im nächsten Jahrhundert nicht mehr geben. Etwa alle 30 Jahre schrumpft das Deutsche Volk seit den 70er Jahren um etwa 30%. In 2.160 gibt es folglich die "Originalen Deutschen" nicht mehr.
    In Russland war es seit dem zweiten Weltkrieg anders. Russland gehörte zu den wenigen Ländern, deren Bevölkerung ohne Immigranten wuchs. Dies ist Ausdruck einer noch starken traditionellen und auch patriotisch-nationalen Gesinnung. Die laufende Sonderoperation ist Ausdruck davon und wichtig. Langfristig ist es aber noch viel wichtiger, die Propheten des Individualismus in Russland einzudämmen und die Gesellschaft so zu entwickeln, dass Normalfamilien mit 3 und mehr Kindern privilegiert werden. Ressourcen dafür sind bei den "Westlichen" Eliten Russlands dafür genügend vorhanden.
  57. 0
    26 June 2022 00: 03
    I am German and very impressed by this sharp analysis. This prompts me to comment on your opinion that chaff should be separated from wheat from a German point of view. On the one hand, this discussion in Russia is very old. Since the time of Peter the Great, there has been debate about how open Russia should be to the West. On the other hand, new phenomena such as "supranational structures" and "individualization" were added as general maxims of life after World War II.
    In many countries outside of Russia there are almost no national feelings. In Germany, for example, there are politicians who demand the exclusion of the term "German people" from the German constitution! Germany, and indeed most of Europe, has been transferring more and more national decisions to the EU and other structures in recent decades. An overemphasis on individuality has led to hedonism and self-denial. The German people have been shrinking by about 30% in every generation since 1970 (birth control pills). This means that the "original Germans" will cease to exist around the year 2.
    In Russia after World War II, both were different. After the Soviet Union, Russia has always opposed too much supranationality and the loss of self-determination. Russia was also one of the few developed countries in the world whose population grew steadily without immigrants. Both are expressions of the still strong national-patriotic sentiment in Russia. The special operation is an expression of these sentiments and is therefore very important. In the long term, however, it is much more important to create a society in Russia in which normal families have 3 or more children and receive privileges for this. The "Western elites" in Russia have enough resources for this.
  58. 0
    26 June 2022 00: 06
    Quote: sen
    How the special operation exposed the split of the Russian elite and people

    CBO is an opportunity to separate the wheat from the chaff. It is necessary to drive the Western liberals out of leadership positions.

    I am German and very impressed by this sharp analysis. This prompts me to comment on your opinion that chaff should be separated from wheat from a German point of view. On the one hand, this discussion in Russia is very old. Since the time of Peter the Great, there has been debate about how open Russia should be to the West. On the other hand, new phenomena such as "supranational structures" and "individualization" were added as general maxims of life after World War II.
    In many countries outside of Russia there are almost no national feelings. In Germany, for example, there are politicians who demand the exclusion of the term "German people" from the German constitution! Germany, and indeed most of Europe, has been transferring more and more national decisions to the EU and other structures in recent decades. An overemphasis on individuality has led to hedonism and self-denial. The German people have been shrinking by about 30% in every generation since 1970 (birth control pills). This means that the "original Germans" will cease to exist around the year 2.
    In Russia after World War II, both were different. After the Soviet Union, Russia has always opposed too much supranationality and the loss of self-determination. Russia was also one of the few developed countries in the world whose population grew steadily without immigrants. Both are expressions of the still strong national-patriotic sentiment in Russia. The special operation is an expression of these sentiments and is therefore very important. In the long term, however, it is much more important to create a society in Russia in which normal families have 3 or more children and receive privileges for this. The "Western elites" in Russia have enough resources for this.
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  60. -2
    26 June 2022 09: 08
    Quote: Serg65
    What can you say about the tens of thousands of young people from 25 to 40 who rushed together with the beginning of the Northern Military District to neighboring countries? Who are they?

    Cowardly bitch two.
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  62. +1
    27 June 2022 07: 42
    And at this time Kiselyov glorifies Kolchak on TV, and not so long ago he was nostalgic for Krasnov....
  63. 0
    28 June 2022 21: 04
    The Russian elite These are the boys who are now in Syria and Ukraine with weapons in their hands. And our people do not have any splits with them and never will. is not it?