In Russia, they were going to deploy the "Safe City" system on the Ukrainian border

The project of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation "Safe City" can be deployed in the near future on the border with Ukraine. Its creators have already requested 15 billion rubles for its implementation in the border areas.

He writes about this in his articleCameras will be put on guard» Kommersant newspaper.

As you know, at present, a yellow level of terrorist threat has been introduced in a number of border regions. This is due to the increased shelling of Russian settlements in the Belgorod, Bryansk and Kursk regions by Ukraine. With the help of the Safe City system, the authorities want to increase the responsiveness to possible incidents.

The Safe City system includes special software, motion sensors, video surveillance cameras and environmental monitoring. The deployment of the system is planned for a year and a half.

However, there are questions about the implementation of the technical component. In Russia, after the imposition of sanctions, the shortage of devices required for the implementation of the project has increased. However, the creators of the project claim that the warehouses in Russia still have their own equipment for the implementation of this task, something can be produced without problems at Russian enterprises, and the missing components can be purchased in the countries of Southeast Asia. The Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation has not yet given official comments on the deployment of this system.

Some experts believe that the deployment of the "Safe City" on the Ukrainian border will not seriously affect the security situation in the border areas. After all, this system was created to ensure the safety and protection of public order in cities. Its main task is video recording of what is happening so that emergency services can quickly receive information about fights, common crimes, unauthorized speeches. Also, with its help, you can establish the details of the attacks, which then helps in the investigation of crimes. Accordingly, this system will also help to record what is happening at the border, promptly report on sabotage groups penetrating from the Ukrainian side, but, of course, it cannot become a defense against shelling.

In addition, the deployment period of the system - one and a half years - also raises questions. Border settlements need to ensure security “here and now”, and not in a year and a half, two years or even six months. After all, there is already destruction and victims, and the very presence of a threat from Ukraine in a year and a half is unlikely to please anyone.

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[Flooding]

The deployment of the system is planned for a year and a half.

That is, in a year and a half, Russia will have a border with Ukraine?
And where will it lie in the opinion of the creators of the "Safe City" system?

[Terenin]

Quote: Flood

And where will it lie in the opinion of the creators of the "Safe City" system?

As far as I understand, this is a project purely for the law enforcement system, which includes a Safe City - a safe house - a safe entrance ...
As the saying goes, "you can't spoil porridge with butter."
There is a federal program for the introduction of this system in the cities of Russia.
Why is it being lobbied by the Ministry of Emergency Situations now?
Well, let them do it if the introduction of this system has become relevant and will minimize the “consequences of threats to the population, as well as civilian infrastructure” and ensure “prompt decision-making.”
The question is only with the sources of funding.

[Flooding]

Quote: Terenin

As far as I understand, this is a project purely for the law enforcement system, which includes a Safe City - a safe house - a safe entrance ... As the saying goes, "you can't spoil porridge with butter." There is a federal program for the introduction of this system in the cities of Russia.

Absolutely right.
Exceptionally urban system.
How effective it will be in the control of border areas can be shown by a test launch in a limited format, followed by fine-tuning for real needs and requirements.
And then they immediately swung with scale.
Will it turn out to be a waste of resources?
I'm almost sure of it.

[Terenin]

Quote: Flood

And then they immediately swung with scale.

Most likely, this is an initiative of the new Minister of Emergency Situations.
What is he risking? Nothing. If they refuse, it means, “I offered, but you didn’t want to” ... If they approve, then there are opportunities to master the means.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Flood

And where will it lie in the opinion of the creators of the "Safe City" system?

Judging by the article - Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkov. It turns out that these areas will not be included in the sphere of influence of the Russian Federation. Then why are Russian passports distributed in the Kharkiv region? There is something wrong with this song. And if so, then this is very bad news.

[YOUR]

As you know, at present, a yellow level of terrorist threat has been introduced in a number of border regions. This is due to the increased shelling of Russian settlements in the Belgorod, Bryansk and Kursk regions by Ukraine. With the help of the Safe City system, the authorities want to increase the responsiveness to possible incidents.

Wonderful. But where does the Ministry of Emergency Situations?

[gansales]

You need to invest money in the wrong place .. Give our military more UAVs and the same quadrocopters and the security of the large territory of Donbass will increase even deeper! Well, Russian borders
And then they will tear it apart again ..
PS Russia is not Israel ... And forever we are not going to defend ourselves ..!!!

[fruc]

The deployment of the system is planned for a year and a half.

Hmmm, this whole thing is giving me a lot of doubt.

[gansales]

Quote: frruc

The deployment of the system is planned for a year and a half.

Hmmm, this whole thing is giving me a lot of doubt.

And not only with you ... The security buffer of the borders of Russia, you just need to advance to the borders of the USSR, etc.
And all these systems are a waste of money ..
PS For that kind of money, you can arrange a "Polish spring" in Poland by promising them full possession of the western outskirts (joke) Old Man will help with shots with red and white flags, they have collected a lot of them hehe
We in Russia are quickly learning the methods of the Anglo-Saxons and others

[run]

In addition, the deployment period of the system - one and a half years - also raises questions. Border settlements need to ensure security “here and now”, and not in a year and a half, two years or even six months. After all, there is already destruction and victims, and the very presence of a threat from Ukraine in a year and a half is unlikely to please anyone.

Here it is rather necessary to do it at other borders, for such a time it is not known where the border will be with Ukraine. And maybe with Poland itself. If the government of the Russian Federation decides, hemorrhoids, like the cradle of Bandera, will also be taken into the composition.

[aszzz888]

The Safe City system includes special software, motion sensors, video surveillance cameras and environmental monitoring.

Is it the full length of the border with unnecessary?

The length of the sea part is 321 km, the land part is 1 km.

The length of the disputed since 2014 border adjacent to the Crimea - by land (22 km), along the Sivash estuaries (146 km) and about 600 km along the Black and Azov Seas[13]

[Andrey Moskvin]

So for 15 billion cameras with sensors they will buy. All of Russia will be fenced off.

[iouris]

There are two options here: push the enemy to a safe distance or move the cities to a safe distance. Choose.

[your vsr 66-67]

I already heard something about the construction of a fence with Russia ...
Now about the construction of the fence with Ukraine?
Repeat gentlemen from the Ministry of Emergency Situations ...

[sen]

In Russia, they were going to deploy the "Safe City" system on the Ukrainian border

The best security system on the border is the denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

The Safe City system includes special software, motion sensors, video surveillance cameras and environmental monitoring.

Horrible. Have you got extra money again? Are there more important issues? Another "cut" of budget funds is being prepared.

[shapkin ushankin]

Some kind of muddy garbage ... In addition, the cost of a spoon for dinner ...

[APASUS]

They hung the same Orions over the border, let them patrol

[Andrey Moskvin]

Under such a fashionable theme, they will tear it apart even more.

[APASUS]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

Under such a fashionable theme, they will tear it apart even more.

They taunt, only because they are allowed to taunt. When necessary, they imprison and control

[rotmistr60]

the creators have already requested 15 billion rubles for its implementation

And Archimedes did not ask for 15 billion, he just needed a fulcrum to turn the Earth. As I understand it, first 15 billion, then, according to the established habit, add more ... The question was correctly asked above about where in 1,5 years the border with Ukraine will pass?

[Corrosion inhibitor]

In Russia, they were going to deploy the "Safe City" system on the Ukrainian border

What monstrous stupidity!!! Probably the children of the Kremlin officials have nothing to do at all - just getting the Kremlin salary is already very boring ...
Those. we will no longer destroy "bird nests" - instead we will spend a lot of money to catch crows in the sky - with butterfly nets, right? ..
If this, indeed, is already a serious undertaking, then half of the government of the Russian Federation should be driven into the neck ... which will happen next. To fight a war is not for you to regulate elections, you will all go out into the street to "free bread", dear "Russians" - "workers" of the Garden Ring and not only! ..

Some experts believe that the deployment of the "Safe City" on the Ukrainian border will not seriously affect the security situation in the border areas.

How few people with working brains are left in Russia! ... They are now "some" listed! ...

[Nikolaevich I]

Well, the deployment of such a system "somewhere abroad" helped a lot there! After all, video surveillance allows not only to record incidents, but also to track criminals, saboteurs, terrorists according to the images embedded in the "memory" of the system! This significantly ensures the safety of the territories!

[Mikhail Maslov]

I think that this system is needed not at the border, but for its intended purpose. Install the system in cities where there is a criminal, terrorist threat. In general, if the system is working and effective, equip each city with it

[Zaurbek]

This direction is the most promising .... It needs to be introduced already in Ukraine itself and rather quickly. Together with optical fiber ..... And in LDNR and Kherson and beyond ..... There will be a bunch of suspicious citizens.

[Bumblebee_3]

As I understand it, the Ministry of Emergency Situations assumes that the NWO will last at least a year and a half and the borders with Ukraine will not change a single meter, in the areas of Belgorod, Kursk, Bryansk? Members of the forum, if I'm wrong, please correct me or explain. Otherwise, what's the point of all this?

[Dilettante grandfather]

Expensive and useless. And not even yesterday. and a year and a half later.

[Hiller]

What is the border? What edge? Another cut of budget money??? To the wall of initiators. According to the law of war!!!

[Bumblebee_3]

hiller, the problem is that there is no "wartime". There is SVO.

[Hiller]

With the willpower of the Leadership: military operations are being conducted in this territory today. So you can and should apply the laws of explosives.

[Oleg Shustov]

The border should be moved to Poland. Then everything will be fine.

[Amper]

Walk wide - you'll tear your pants! We can’t defend Donetsk for the 4th month, they roll it like a stone, Bryansk, Kursk, Belgorod are under shelling, we can’t do anything ... Poland!?

[Two]

It's just that someone decided to cut 15 billion rubles in kickbacks and so on, they think that it will crawl through under the guise.

[ximkim]

The project is interesting for its cost, not its efficiency.

[Amper]

Cutting the budget for illiquid assets from warehouses? The border needs an iron dome, not a quick body count.

[nordscout]

It's a good thing... Is it only now that it has reached the officials of the Ministry of Emergency Situations? And during the period of preparation for the SVO, it was impossible to think about this? Or do we continue to act in the old fashioned way: "Until the thunder breaks out, the Russian peasant will not cross himself" .... And isn't the period of "implementation" of this project "determined for a long time? And a shorter" path "of implementation will not allow comfortable " cut" the budget expected for the implementation of the project? However .... With this approach of officials, of all ranks, we will have to wait for victory at the front and in the rear until the "carrot spell" .... Yes! No to our officials Lavrenty Pavlovich and Joseph Vissarionovich .....

[lopvlad]

The deployment of the system is planned for a year and a half.

another cut of the dough is being prepared. The most interesting thing is that it is planned to deploy the system in the Voronezh region, which has no border with Ukraine.

[madjik]

another cut!

[valentine light]

In 1 year 6 months there should not be such a regime in Little Russia, so that peaceful villages and cities are fired upon!
And the border with Ukraine should now be strengthened by border patrols with MANPADS and armored vehicles and air defense systems of echeloned composition.

[Reserve buildbat]

"The deployment of the system is planned for a year and a half." - Is our Ministry of Emergency Situations so strongly convinced that in a year and a half skakuasiya will still exist and will be able to shell those settlements that are shelling now?
And what's the point in cameras on poles when it is necessary to ensure border patrols with drones and timely artillery / missile strikes against those shelling our land. Some bullshit turns out