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British press: With the current rate of losses of the Ukrainian army, questions arise about the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine if the war drags on until autumn

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Western information resources, including major publications in Britain and the United States, are increasingly coming out with materials that talk about big problems for the Ukrainian army during the confrontation with the Russian troops. Against the backdrop of once victorious reports and statements that Ukraine will certainly “win on the battlefield”, new publications are painted in completely different colors. In particular, Kyiv's plans for a new wave of mobilization are being discussed, during which it is planned to call on women as well. This may indicate that the resource at the front is no longer enough, the main forces are being crushed by the Russian army.


The authors of the British The Guardian discuss the topic of Ukrainian losses. The author writes that large losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can at any moment lead to a turning point in the course of hostilities in the Donbass. British journalists, analyzing the situation, note that Ukrainian losses reach 1000 people a day.

From the material:

This is an incredible reduction in combat capability. This is connected, among other things, with unsuccessful attempts to keep Severodonetsk, a city that is considered the administrative center of the Luhansk region.

British journalists write that the losses of the Ukrainian security forces in the last month alone exceeded 20 thousand people killed and wounded.

From the material:

With the current rate of losses of the Ukrainian army, questions arise about the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine if the war drags on until autumn.

We will have to expand mobilization measures, but the situation is such that there are fewer and fewer people in Ukraine who want to take up arms.

It is noted that at the moment, Russian troops control large areas of Ukraine, and can even afford to stop - without advancing - in one area or another in order to achieve an advantage in manpower and military equipment. The Ukrainian army cannot afford to stop without fighting, because if this happens, the Russian troops will immediately make a breakthrough and continue the offensive until the next line of Ukrainian defense. And this line can defend tens of kilometers deep into Ukrainian territory.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 11 June 2022 13: 42
    +23
    British press: With the current rate of losses of the Ukrainian army, questions arise about the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine if the war drags on until autumn
    It seems that they have not yet understood the full depth of the fall of "Kraina U" ... It's time to raise the question, what state will Ukraine be in and whether it will be at all
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 11 June 2022 13: 46
      +15
      Quote: svp67
      It seems they have not yet understood the full depth of the fall.


      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 11 June 2022 14: 44
        -2
        By the way, according to the author of this song. Vyacheslav Antonov .. As soon as the special operation began, he merged. You can’t see him either in hospitals or in the Donbass.
      2. mihey
        mihey 11 June 2022 14: 48
        +5
        Didn't expect it but it made me cry drinks
      3. Cosmemedic
        Cosmemedic 12 June 2022 08: 25
        +4
        Great! Watched for the first time..
        Thanks, I'll pass it on to others.
        1. begemot20091
          begemot20091 12 June 2022 08: 55
          +5
          write me later
          Dmitry Melnikov
          Write me then, as if alive, a letter,
          but write about happiness, not about grief.
          Write to me about what you see through the window
          endless blue sea

          that the blue boat floats on the sea
          rich in silver catch,
          that a space fleet was spread over it -
          snow-white Russian cotton wool.

          I broke this time with my hands like steel
          kissed him on black lips,
          write about love, don't write about sadness,
          write that I took Mariupol.

          Write - I will not give you to anyone,
          my dear, we will see you soon.
          I'm not dead, I'm sleeping, and to my boots
          the Sea of ​​Azov rises.
    2. Viktor Pigalov
      Viktor Pigalov 11 June 2022 14: 55
      +4
      They do not understand the full depth of our depths!!!
    3. vik669
      vik669 11 June 2022 15: 09
      +4
      So, until the last crest, they will ... for the whole world that is with them and which does not need three letters of them - but where are they to be recruited in Ukraine before the fall.
  2. Joker62
    Joker62 11 June 2022 13: 44
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    British press: With the current rate of losses of the Ukrainian army, questions arise about the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine if the war drags on until autumn

    They won’t live until autumn, and only dust will remain ...
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 11 June 2022 14: 39
      +1
      Yes, and the "trukhany" will run away ..
  3. sen
    sen 11 June 2022 13: 45
    +6
    British press: With the current rate of losses of the Ukrainian army, questions arise about the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine if the war drags on until autumn

    And what is there to think. With such a rate of losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the fate of Ukraine will be decided sometime in September.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 June 2022 13: 52
      +5
      Quote: sen
      And what is there to think. With such a rate of losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the fate of Ukraine will be decided sometime in September.

      Yes, you can, and before the New Year, quilted jackets and hats from Svidomo "mute".
      1. dedusik
        dedusik 11 June 2022 14: 21
        +2
        Let me ask the hat throwers how many years the "children of the Experts" have been burying Ukraine, and she, the smoking room, still exists and even snaps. So, chickens are counted in the fall soldier
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 11 June 2022 14: 30
          +23
          how many years "children experts" buried Ukraine
          This time the Russian army nevertheless came to war. How much a girl can not curl, but the end cannot be avoided am .
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 11 June 2022 18: 58
            +3
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            How much the girl can not curl, but the end cannot be avoided.

            .... and the skirt and shorts will be torn.
        2. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 11 June 2022 14: 40
          +5
          British Ikperts? They prophesied victory for Ukraine.
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 11 June 2022 14: 44
            +7
            They prophesied victory for Ukraine.
            It is worth noting that not all, but only those who did not hold weapons in their hands and became experts in libraries. The military were much more careful in their statements.
          2. dedusik
            dedusik 11 June 2022 16: 19
            +1
            Quote: dmi.pris
            British Ickperts?

            No, ours. Back on the site in 2015 hi
          3. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 11 June 2022 19: 04
            +2
            Quote: dmi.pris
            British Ikperts? They prophesied victory for Ukraine.

            The British, like the US, were simply sure that Ukraine would tear Russia apart. For this, a colossal amount of weapons was sent to the Ukrainians, trained like hounds, and they thought that everyone was "abgemacht", forgetting (although this is not possible) how they armed and trained the native army of Afghanistan for 20 years. Not in horse food, the Afghans at least did not sell weapons to third countries.
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        4. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 11 June 2022 18: 26
          0
          And what will forgive the mistake besides the timing?
        5. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 11 June 2022 18: 57
          +1
          Quote: dedusik
          So, chickens are counted in the fall

          In the incubator, "daily cockerels" are not counted, they are simply destroyed.
        6. R
          R 11 June 2022 19: 21
          +2
          Let me ask the hat throwers how many years the "children of the Experts" have been burying Ukraine, and she, the smoking room, still exists and even snaps. So, chickens are counted in the fall

          Here you have, it seems, such a serious chevron, and the text is "arrestovichevsky" .... What does "hat capping" have to do with it? We just KNOW that our guys will defeat these Nazi beasts! No options! Nobody says it's an easy ride. But, bro, with the phrase "they count chickens in the fall" do you make an admission that the ukroreich will be able to defeat us? How could you serve in a serious unit with such cowardice? Are you yourself from a proud tribe of sailors? ((((
          And about the fact that they snarl .... So a cornered rat also snarls. Does this do her credit?
          1. dedusik
            dedusik 11 June 2022 22: 21
            +1
            Damn, why are you so stubborn in forecasts what The Supreme Commander said that the operation would go on until the task was completed. repeat Or are you all smarter than him to make predictions? repeat
            PS And don't touch my chevron, you have to earn it and I have never dishonored it stop
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 11 June 2022 22: 41
              -3
              Quote: dedusik
              The Supreme Commander said that the operation would go on until the task was completed.

              And he has seven Fridays a week. On the first day of the NMD, he called on the Armed Forces of Ukraine to lay down their arms, on the second day - to take the power of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into their own rake. Now he is silent, because not the first and second calls, the APU received in one ear, and after digesting, poisoned from the other. For some reason, they do not want to listen to the advice of our brightest and wisest.
              1. dedusik
                dedusik 11 June 2022 22: 48
                0
                And what about the APU? belay
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 11 June 2022 23: 25
                  -5
                  Armed Forces of Ukraine? And how do I know what kind of urine hit the Supreme in the head? Maybe the bank got there too.
              2. Commissar of the NKVD
                Commissar of the NKVD 13 June 2022 07: 27
                +1
                For some reason they do not want to listen to the advice of our brightest and wisest

                Until a fool sits with his bare ass on the stove, he will not understand the word of the wise that one must sit on a chair. Didn't listen to the smart one? Have you decided that you don’t care about everyone and “abroad will help you”? Well, then do not be offended, they asked for it
            2. R
              R 11 June 2022 23: 13
              +4
              Damn, why are you so stubborn in forecasting what the Supreme Commander said that the operation will go on until the task is completed feel Or are you all smarter than him to give forecasts? feel
              PS And don't touch my chevron, you have to earn it and I never dishonored it stop

              Oh, how ... they haven’t recorded me as stoned yet)) Well .. Let's put aside diplomacy! Read my lips - did you see somewhere that I said that we will reach Poland? Did you see somewhere that I said that we would parade through Paris? Did you see somewhere that I said "We can repeat" and urged to sign the Reichstag again?

              You said :

              The Supreme Commander-in-Chief said that the operation would go on until the task was completed feel Or are you all smarter than him to make predictions?


              Let's see what you reacted to so hysterically. Here are my words:

              We just KNOW that our guys will defeat these Nazi beasts! No options!

              And now let's "let's sort it out by syllables", as in the first grade:

              What tasks did the Supreme set - the demilitarization and denazification of the kakelov.
              What contradictions did you see in my phrase? That we will defeat the Nazi beasts? So after all, these are the tasks of the Commander-in-Chief. Why are you so excited? Do you just like to argue to show some kind of importance? So there is no such your importance. Don't touch your chevron.. Look, what a special one we found here.... There are many different boys in Russia with different chevrons. And many among them are those who do not doubt the Victory of our country. But you are cowardly of something Kakelov whitewash ..

              And what kind of nonsense is a chevron to deserve ?! Enrolled in the unit - sewed a chevron on the sleeve. The same merit as all the boys who are enrolled in your unit. Or did you hand over night firing in the barracks under the beds under the strict guidance of "grandfathers" and "deserved a chevron"? )) Maybe you confused with a maroon beret? Well, yes, you need to earn it ... And a chevron is just a patch on your sleeve, which indicates your belonging to some kind of unit.

              How did you say that we are "like smarter than him"? Are you dumber than a Russian language and literature textbook? Couldn't put the letters you read into sentences correctly? Where in my text did you see a dissonance with the tasks set by the Commander-in-Chief? If your mind is capable of imaginative thinking, then imagine the period of the Great Patriotic War, when the appeal was made: ".. The enemy will be defeated. Victory will be ours" here you are stubborn owls! What a caper! I swam - I know! This enemy is strong! And in response to you - yes, we know that he is strong, but we really believe in our army and people and we have no doubt that we will win. Yes, and there is no choice, otherwise we will be destroyed. And you are like that, and who knows how it will turn out? There is no need to engage in hatred and need to look at things soberly. And, in short, chickens are counted in the fall!

              And why the hell are you with your chevron and with your lack of faith in our obligatory Victory over Nazism? No one says that it will be fast, easy and without losses .. But we, the descendants of Russian soldiers, simply cannot help but believe in Victory. Going into battle without thinking about Victory is a sure loss. That's what I was talking about - about metaphysics. And you reduced everything to a primitive hat-taking ..
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 11 June 2022 23: 34
                -8
                Quote from Resident
                If your mind is capable of imaginative thinking, then imagine the period of the Great Patriotic War, when the appeal was made: ".. The enemy will be defeated. Victory will be ours"

                Yes, there is no such treatment, that's just the point. There is a battle for the pipe. IMHO. As in the first Chechen. Why the hell are we pumping gas to other enemies through the enemy?
                1. R
                  R 12 June 2022 00: 04
                  +5
                  Yes, there is no such treatment, that's just the point. There is a battle for the pipe. IMHO. As in the first Chechen. Why the hell are we pumping gas to other enemies through the enemy?

                  If, again, we step aside from particulars and look at the picture of the World globally, it becomes obvious that it is incorrect to compare these two conflicts. The First Chechen War, indeed, can be called a "battle for the pipe" with a stretch. But it was an internal Russian conflict that had little effect on the global picture of the World ... And now, immediately after the start of the NWO, such tectonic shifts began on the Planet that one could not notice them - this is just the height of indifference)) And it was we, Russia, represented by GDP, who unleashed this long-nascent wind of change. So it doesn’t smell like a simple oligarchic deluge here - do you see how “godfathers” of different levels rush around different “talks” and try to put together the most insane coalitions, just to maintain their “position” and way of life?
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 12 June 2022 00: 18
                    -7
                    Quote from Resident
                    But it was an internal Russian conflict,

                    Yes, not really. "Take sovereignty as much as you like!" And just as Dudayev demanded transit at world prices, the operation to "restor the order" began. Yep, domestic. I remember how in 97 the Ichkerian authorities forbade carrying weapons in public places. There was nothing like this in the rest of the Russian Federation, they didn’t forbid walking around the market with machine guns, they immediately packed it.
                    Quote from Resident
                    And it was we who unleashed this long-incipient wind of change - Russia represented by the GDP.

                    Ho-ho. How does it say? He who sows the wind will reap the whirlwind.
                    Quote from Resident
                    So it doesn’t smell like a simple oligarchic deluge here - do you see how “godfathers” of different levels rush around different “talks” and try to put together the most insane coalitions in order to maintain their “position” and way of life?

                    And what godfathers? It would be interesting to know how the fortunes of various Sobyanins-Deripaskas-Vekselbergs sank and increased.
                2. your1970
                  your1970 12 June 2022 10: 44
                  +2
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  There is a battle for the pipe. IMHO. As in the first Chechen. Why the hell are we pumping gas to other enemies through the enemy?

                  Why the hell did the USSR in the 1970s, at the height of the Cold War, have Soviet newspapers - in Germany - pumped gas to a member of the "aggressive NATO bloc" (c)?
                  Enemy?
                  Without
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Sobyanin-Deripasok-Vekselberg.
                  !!!!
                  Or was it okay back then?
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 12 June 2022 11: 04
                    0
                    Quote: your1970
                    Why the hell did the USSR in the 1970s, at the height of the Cold War, have Soviet newspapers - in Germany - pumped gas to a member of the "aggressive NATO bloc" (c)?

                    And even paid stamps to Porsche specialists for the development of the Zhiguli-eight. A bucket of bolts, yes. Somehow, at the height of the Cold War, German weapons fired at us. Go right now, ask them to develop and supply equipment for Lada-grants. ABS there, electrician...
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 12 June 2022 12: 38
                      +2
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      Somehow, at the height of the Cold War, German weapons fired at us.

                      Yes? But in Africa and BV doesn’t? Doesn’t count?
                      We don't count dead advisers and instructors?
                      I agree, there were not many of them (the dead) - but nevertheless, the FRG completely drove weapons to the "rebels" in friendly states and vice versa.
                      So it shot quite well ..
                      And yes, assuming your sending - means the party and the government - liar people about the cold war .....
                      Right now, there is no Cold War - but German weapons shoot ...
              2. dedusik
                dedusik 11 June 2022 23: 51
                -2
                Dear, I, as it were, studied the PVR at one time, so they hammer me, only torment Claudia. hi
                Read my post that started it all, analyze it, and then tell me where I was wrong. Or did I say that our guys won't win? Yes, and look in the dictionaries what the phrase "count chickens in the fall" means - so that you do not look
                "Chickens are counted in the fall" is close (Do not count ducklings until they hatch). Meaning: one can speak about the success of a business only when it is done, will be done; do not build your plans, counting on an unlikely event; judge something by its end result.

                And what does "the text is" Arrestovichevsky "have to do with it, I'm just a pragmatist and analyst in the former service, well, my chevron, which, yes, you need to earn - try to get into these troops there. So, it's time to stop the flood repeat
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 12 June 2022 00: 00
                  -2
                  Quote: dedusik
                  Yes, and look in the dictionaries what the phrase "count chickens in the fall" means - so that you do not look
                  "Chickens are counted in the fall" is close (Do not count ducklings until they hatch).

                  Nonsense, about until they hatch. That's when by the fall the chickens grow up, and become more or less with brains, then they are counted.
                  1. dedusik
                    dedusik 12 June 2022 00: 23
                    +1
                    From the point of view of poultry farming, I completely agree with you, but the Russian people look wider, which is why such proverbs appear drinks
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 12 June 2022 00: 30
                      -1
                      Quote: dedusik
                      but the Russian people look wider, which is why such proverbs appear

                      The fact of the matter is that usually chickens hatch in the spring. By the autumn they will grow up, then they will count. Somehow I was walking through the village in August, I was escorted by a pack of garage dogs, so they crushed three chickens, I quickly made my face a brick, and scratched from there with a quick step.
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 11 June 2022 14: 06
      +13
      The fate of Tsegabonia was decided 30 years ago .. When they chose hatred and enmity towards Russia as a vector of movement .. And now they are simply delivered to their homes with a previously made order ..
  4. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 11 June 2022 13: 47
    +5
    what state will the APU be in
    In a state of rest wassat There will be offensive operations in Berlin, and the center of social payments will be taken by storm.
  5. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 11 June 2022 13: 49
    -1
    ***
    "Ukrainians will fight to the last drop of blood"
    Boris Johnson
    ---
    Borya made a mistake?...
    ***


    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 June 2022 13: 53
      0
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      ---
      Borya made a mistake?...

      Zelensky promised him so.
      1. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
        Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 11 June 2022 13: 55
        +3
        Zelensky promised him so.

        ***
        Well no.
        It was he who set the task for Zelensky ...
        ***
    2. Dilettante grandfather
      Dilettante grandfather 11 June 2022 14: 52
      0
      Boris is wrong again. It doesn't matter that Boris is different, it's important that Boris is. wassat
    3. Khibiny Plastun
      Khibiny Plastun 11 June 2022 16: 06
      0
      No, Boriska meant that they would fight to the last drop of blood..Ukrainians.
    4. aszzz888
      aszzz888 12 June 2022 02: 24
      0

      Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov (Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov)
      Yesterday, 13: 49
      NEW
      0
      ***
      "Ukrainians will fight to the last drop of blood"
      Boris Johnson
      ---
      Borya made a mistake?...
      Will)) wink especially on the square named after him laughing
  6. laws70
    laws70 11 June 2022 13: 52
    +14
    One can recall how the tone of the media towards Napoleon changed as he advanced from south to north. First news: "The Corsican monster has landed in the Bay of Juan." The second news: "The cannibal goes to Grasse." Third news: "The usurper entered Grenoble." The fourth news: "Bonaparte has occupied Lyon." Fifth news: "Napoleon is approaching Fontainebleau." Sixth news: "His Imperial Majesty is expected today in his faithful Paris." All this literary gamut fit in the same newspapers, with the same editorial office for several days.
  7. zloybond
    zloybond 11 June 2022 14: 03
    +2
    The main thing to remember after all this is with whom it is worth and in what volume to build relationships. Is it necessary to kiss Europe and then be friends. I remember before the football championship, we were forced to put up advertisements in English for everyone ... they tried so hard, they tried so hard to please - except that they licked them.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 June 2022 14: 05
    +5
    in the British The Guardian... With the current rate of losses of the Ukrainian army, questions arise about the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine if the war drags on until autumn.
    Isn't this the same The Guardian, which a month ago with pathos wrote articles about the "victories" of the Ukrainian army, the loss of Putin and the exhaustion of Russia? And what happened to the mouthpiece of British "democracy", where the enthusiasm and expectations of victory have disappeared? It is hard to perceive reality when fakes were announced for so long and poured dirt on Russia. Get used to it. I wonder what you will write in the winter about the situation of the British?
    1. Commissar of the NKVD
      Commissar of the NKVD 13 June 2022 07: 34
      0
      So it's a common thing for gentlemen to assert today with foam at the mouth what they refused yesterday with the same foam. "Well, think about it, I made a mistake, and in general I was hungover yesterday, I don’t remember what I said"
  9. couch
    couch 11 June 2022 14: 14
    -5
    in the 50s of the last century, Bandera was also destroyed with violent force (using even public executions by hanging), but there was little sense. A few decades later, this dirty trick was revived again. I'm afraid history will repeat itself
    1. rotfuks
      rotfuks 11 June 2022 14: 35
      0
      You are confusing something. Nobody was hanged in the 50s. Quite the contrary, the good Khrushchev in 1956 amnestied all Bandera.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 11 June 2022 14: 46
        +1
        However, Bandera himself was destroyed under Khrushchev. Amnestied in 1955-1956. there were not only Bandera, but also Vlasov, and the Baltic "forest brothers", and those policemen who did not commit serious crimes. Voroshilov, Bulganin, Molotov, Malenkov and Kaganovich, who were then still in power, had nothing against this. And when they tried to remove Khrushchev in 1957, this amnesty was not blamed on him at all.
      2. your1970
        your1970 12 June 2022 12: 52
        0
        Quote: rotfuks
        You are confusing something. Nobody was hanged in the 50s. Quite the contrary, the good Khrushchev in 1956 amnestied all Bandera.

        Those not caught completely ran through the forests until 1957
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 11 June 2022 14: 21
    +1
    British press: With the current rate of losses of the Ukrainian army, questions arise about the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine if the war drags on until autumn
    . In general, there are more and more "strange" statements and analytical reviews of the current situation in the West ...
    Let's just say that the Kukuevites will be able to refrain from defeat !!! it became completely inaudible, from those who began to conduct at least some kind of objective analysis.
    1. cniza
      cniza 11 June 2022 14: 37
      +2
      Good time! hi

      Well, they can't lie anymore...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 11 June 2022 14: 47
        +1
        Hi soldier
        There are also enough false voices, but now they have an alternative opinion ... and the worm of doubt, he is so angry!!! As soon as he appeared, he will not leave anyone alone, never.
        1. cniza
          cniza 11 June 2022 21: 16
          +3
          The truth cannot be hidden...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 11 June 2022 23: 00
            +1
            True ... public opinion is formed in various ways, in this the ruling elites and their assistants have become pretty adept.
  11. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 11 June 2022 14: 27
    0
    Just 1000 a day, he already wrote that to the recognized 404 losses, zero and it will be true, the recognized losses of 80 bodies upon impact means really 800.
    1. Andrey Romanovich
      Andrey Romanovich 11 June 2022 18: 32
      -6
      The authorities of Nefteyugansk, trying to curry favor, gave out military secrets.

      The authorities of Nefteyugansk have appointed a one-time payment of 250 thousand rubles to the relatives of the dead military personnel in Ukraine.
      And they reported that they had already paid 17 million rubles to the relatives of the soldiers killed during the special operation.

      Next is arithmetic. We divide 17 million by 250 thousand and get 68 deaths per city with a population of only 128 thousand. Extrapolating this average figure to the 142 million population of the country, we already see an incredible 70 deaths in just 100 days.
      1. mihey
        mihey 11 June 2022 19: 49
        0
        I have been to Nefteyugansk, and more than once, for work, but I was always sure that it was not in Ukraine, although there were enough Ukrainians there ...
        PS Free advice: shove your arithmetic anywhere you want
        1. Andrey Romanovich
          Andrey Romanovich 11 June 2022 21: 32
          -3
          I will send the calculations to the FSB of the Russian Federation so that they can strictly show the mayor's office of Nefteyugansk. One previous local mayor (named Petukhov) had already been severely punished by the authorities.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 11 June 2022 22: 55
            0
            Quote: Andrei Romanovich
            I will send the calculations to the FSB of the Russian Federation so that they can strictly show the mayor's office of Nefteyugansk. One previous local mayor (named Petukhov) had already been severely punished by the authorities.

            Correctly. Or maybe the mayor's office spent 250 thousand, and reported 17 million. Please let me know about the results of your activity.
      2. Alex Kron
        Alex Kron 11 June 2022 20: 31
        -1
        The payments include ritual services, a monument, the appointment and payment of benefits on the occasion of the loss of a breadwinner, and so on. so your data is nothing. During the first two weeks of SO, when the losses were maximum, more than 400 died. approx. 1000 per month. So the losses of the Russian Federation are a maximum of 3500. The DPR announced 2000, the LPR should be thought of at least 1000. Only 6-7. What 70? These are the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that they themselves do not know.
        1. Andrey Romanovich
          Andrey Romanovich 11 June 2022 21: 35
          -3
          I also think that not 70 yet. I don’t believe the Ukrainian data either, of course, but there are no Russian ones.
          I will choose British intelligence as the most objective, with which the Pentagon is also congenial, and named 15 thousand.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 11 June 2022 23: 03
            0
            Quote: Andrei Romanovich
            I will choose British intelligence as the most objective, with which the Pentagon is also congenial, and named 15 thousand.

            These are the losses for 10 years of the Afghan. You are not a provocateur, are you? Shutka.
            1. Andrey Romanovich
              Andrey Romanovich 12 June 2022 13: 00
              -3
              In Afghanistan, the enemy had practically no heavy weapons and air defense, and the number of manpower was not the same as in Ukraine.
              More like a senseless and inconclusive conflict between Iraq and Iran, in which two large armies used all types of weapons, and in 8 years about 700 thousand military personnel from both sides died along with tens of thousands of civilians.
          2. Alex Kron
            Alex Kron 12 June 2022 15: 12
            0
            We count differently. In area 2 - 200. In area 24 Mun. formations. Approx. 50. In the Russian Federation there are 85 subjects 85X50 = 4250 + 3 LDNR - 7500 maximum. Here it is more real. In some areas there are no 200, somewhere more, somewhere less, but on average it is + - objectively.
      3. Woodman
        Woodman 11 June 2022 23: 58
        0
        Quote: Andrei Romanovich
        And they reported that they had already paid

        And now in more detail: did the authorities of Nefteyugansk report about 17 million? Please, a link. Although there will be no link because this is not the authorities of Nefteyugansk said. And you are either an outright fake thrower, or you just "heard a ringing, but did not understand where he was" ...
      4. your1970
        your1970 12 June 2022 12: 56
        +1
        Quote: Andrei Romanovich
        Next is arithmetic. We divide 17 million by 250 thousand and get 68 deaths per city with a population of only 128 thousand. Extrapolating from this average

        There is only one bad thing in this arithmetic - the number of contractors from this particular city.
        There are obviously fewer contract workers from cities with a population of over a million than from small towns and villages
      5. Commissar of the NKVD
        Commissar of the NKVD 13 June 2022 07: 37
        0
        Ivan is dead. Vasily is healthy as a bull. On average, both are sick.
        Masha is a virgin. Lena fucks with the whole village. On average, both b-di.
        Petya does not get out of the deuces. Dima studies for one five. On average, both are threes.
        Your arithmetic is from such a category.
  12. certero
    certero 11 June 2022 14: 32
    0
    Quote: Joker62
    Quote: svp67
    British press: With the current rate of losses of the Ukrainian army, questions arise about the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine if the war drags on until autumn

    They won’t live until autumn, and only dust will remain ...

    I remember how in February they wrote that everything would be over in 2-3 weeks.
    Gentlemen, comrades, let's stop succumbing to uropatriotic slogans.
    There are no hints that everything will end before the fall.
    Well, unless we are going to stop at Lugansk and Donetsk
    1. Dilettante grandfather
      Dilettante grandfather 11 June 2022 14: 59
      -1
      There are no hints that everything will end before the fall.

      Excuse me, but total mobilization is not a sign that Ukraine is having a hard time with human resources? And if the grinding of the Nazis and those whom they drive into the trenches continues, do you think that people from the other side will appear by magic?! Or maybe the Poles, the British, and other rabble will happily rush to plug our breakthroughs, under the blows of the Aerospace Forces and the Armed Forces? Sure sure. Especially after the verdict on the three mercenaries. Hurry, stumble! .. am
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 11 June 2022 23: 07
        0
        Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
        Excuse me, but total mobilization is not a sign that Ukraine is having a hard time with human resources?

        And we have raised the age of contractors to indefinite. Something is also not right, apparently, with the man-hours.
        1. Dilettante grandfather
          Dilettante grandfather 12 June 2022 07: 33
          -1
          Firstly, the age has been raised due to the fact that in the early days of the NMD, many veterans of Afghanistan and Chechnya knocked on the thresholds of the military registration and enlistment offices, they wanted to volunteer. But then it was not possible. Secondly, not all contractors are in the database zone. If necessary, our grouping will be replenished at the expense of those who serve in their homeland. So with the "man hours" - everything is fine.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 12 June 2022 08: 13
            0
            Afghan veterans are now at least fifty dollars. I personally have a little less. I tried to somehow remember my youth, go in for sports, ugh, damn it. Where are my one hundred and twenty push-ups in a minute forty? Where are twenty lifts with a coup in 15 seconds? Yes, I couldn’t do a single one, because the belly and ass are outweighed. So there is nothing out of the ordinary. Tell me the current acceptance standards under the contract, and I will try to try them on all my friends.
            1. Dilettante grandfather
              Dilettante grandfather 12 June 2022 15: 59
              0
              You should ask for the regulations at the military registration and enlistment office, I don't work there. hi In general, a database is not only work as part of an assault group, at the point of impact. These are drivers delivering ammunition and fuel in columns, these are rocket specialists, and artillerymen, and signalmen ... And what does age have to do with it, and specifically you? Volunteers people asked, it's a fact. And now they have been given such an opportunity, this is also a fact. Have you been to the military? No, I think. And the people walked.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 12 June 2022 16: 16
                0
                Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
                No, I think.

                Of course not. Where will I trample, if I run a maximum of 100 meters, but I will run out of breath.
        2. Andrey Romanovich
          Andrey Romanovich 12 June 2022 17: 11
          -3
          Grandfathers were at war. We can repeat. (With)
  13. rotfuks
    rotfuks 11 June 2022 14: 32
    -2
    Everything goes according to plan. Information support of Ukraine is working. The President of Ukraine is a popular politician. Arrive in Ukraine and weapons and money. The only problem is the Ukrainians are running out.
  14. cniza
    cniza 11 June 2022 14: 36
    +6
    With the current rate of losses of the Ukrainian army, questions arise about the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine if the war drags on until autumn.


    They started getting suspicious... lol
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 11 June 2022 15: 08
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      With the current rate of losses of the Ukrainian army, questions arise about the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine if the war drags on until autumn.


      They started getting suspicious... lol


      hi Hello Victor. Joke.

      - Why are you so sad?
      - You just stabbed me with a knife, why do you think I'm sad?
      - Always one negative from you.
      1. cniza
        cniza 11 June 2022 21: 19
        +3
        Greetings hi

        Well, that's pretty much how they work...
  15. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 11 June 2022 15: 05
    0
    With the current rate of losses of the Ukrainian army, questions arise about the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine if the war drags on until autumn.
    Is it really that hard to understand? A handful of equipment, small arms, which they will not have time to sell, and - no one who knows how to use them. It is in this state that the APU will be. I will get ahead of angry rebukes: mercenaries, foreign instructors are not military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They, perhaps, will still be present there, although I strongly doubt this: the instructors will not really want to either die, or, moreover, be captured by us. And the mercenaries, who are smarter, already prefer to follow the developments on TV, from somewhere in the EU or America, and not from the front line.
  16. Joker62
    Joker62 11 June 2022 15: 10
    -1
    Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
    Boris is wrong again. It doesn't matter that Boris is different, it's important that Boris is. wassat

    I somehow remembered at the last party congress of the CPSU, where Yegor Legachev issued a famous phrase addressed to the future president of the RSFSR and Russia, Boris Yeltsin:
    "Boris, you're wrong!"
    1. ch28k38
      ch28k38 11 June 2022 18: 37
      0
      Surname Egor - Ligachov!
  17. Sergey Melnik
    Sergey Melnik 11 June 2022 16: 12
    0
    Quote: dedusik
    Let me ask the hat throwers how many years the "children of the Experts" have been burying Ukraine, and she, the smoking room, still exists and even snaps. So, chickens are counted in the fall soldier

    In fact, everything is said in becoming. She snarls with pure corpses, there are no offensives and the situation is like in a joke about the Chinese, “but where are you so many rushing at a machine gun.” And if it is, “snarls” then what will failure look like? Probably when everyone will be put?
  18. donbaron
    donbaron 11 June 2022 16: 24
    -1
    The second wave of mobilization will be twisted into minced meat much faster than the first ...
  19. Lelek
    Lelek 11 June 2022 16: 43
    0
    (Authors in the British The Guardian discuss the topic of Ukrainian losses.)

    The British newspapermen are right, although the number of 1000 "300s" per day is exaggerated, but in Kyiv they have already conceived the 5th wave of forced conscription into the Armed Forces of Ukraine (it is not clear who they will grab on the streets and in houses).
  20. isv000
    isv000 11 June 2022 17: 39
    -1
    British press: With the current rate of losses of the Ukrainian army, questions arise about the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine if the war drags on until autumn

    APU? By autumn, the Taurian chieftains will be scouring there, but without a gold reserve, and, therefore, they will rob ...
  21. Andrey Romanovich
    Andrey Romanovich 11 June 2022 18: 20
    -4
    Quote: dedusik
    do not count your chickens before they are hatched

    what year fall do you think? It is necessary to be in time until 2024, by the next re-elections.
  22. Alex Kron
    Alex Kron 11 June 2022 20: 23
    0
    It must be assumed that by the fall of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will cease to exist.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 11 June 2022 23: 21
      0
      Quote: Alex Kron
      It must be assumed that by the fall of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will cease to exist.

      Oh well. God grant our calves gore the wolf.
      1. Alex Kron
        Alex Kron 12 June 2022 13: 26
        0
        And why is the wolf hiding fortifications? Syklyvyy or saves strength? And the power is decreasing, not increasing.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 12 June 2022 16: 18
          0
          Quote: Alex Kron
          And why is the wolf hiding fortifications? Syklyvyy or saves strength?

          And why would he go out into the open field?
          1. Commissar of the NKVD
            Commissar of the NKVD 13 June 2022 07: 46
            0
            If a wolf pissed, then yes, there’s nothing
  23. iouris
    iouris 11 June 2022 21: 03
    0
    They do not believe in Britain in our victory or still doubt it.
    1. Andrey Romanovich
      Andrey Romanovich 11 June 2022 21: 45
      -3
      And they do not feel gratitude for the liberation of the Ukrainian people from Nazism. It is strange that the peoples of Eastern Europe, too, have not felt the same gratitude towards us since 1945.
      Probably, the methods of liberation are similar, but different from the Anglo-American ones, for which Western Europe is really grateful to them.
      1. your1970
        your1970 12 June 2022 13: 16
        +1
        Quote: Andrei Romanovich
        different from the Anglo-American ones, for which they actually grateful Western Europe.

        Toto Germany begs - do not even pick up or at least count !!!! Not!!! - just look at your gold in the US....
        In 1946 a German prostitute cost $1 a night....
        Apparently we needed ROB - so that they would be grateful to us in Eastern Europe. Taking everything off them, including underpants ..
        And we developed their industry ...
  24. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 11 June 2022 21: 15
    +2
    He took prisoners out of prisons, hired bandits-mercenaries, now he only had to take the crazy out of shelters. His losses are catastrophic
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 11 June 2022 23: 22
      0
      Quote from Carlos Sala
      His losses are catastrophic

      Where is the catastrophe?
      1. Carlos Hall
        Carlos Hall 12 June 2022 14: 04
        +1
        In which the Ukrainian army has 40 soldiers who died in battle.
  25. Timokha_2
    Timokha_2 12 June 2022 08: 11
    +1
    Quote: dedusik
    Let me ask the hat throwers how many years the "children of the Experts" have been burying Ukraine, and she, the smoking room, still exists and even snaps. So, chickens are counted in the fall soldier

    So your Ukraine existed at the expense of cheap energy resources and theft of them until 2014, and then due to injections from the West, naturally in debt. And now it’s coming, or rather, the end of this patchwork non-state has come.
  26. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 12 June 2022 15: 22
    0
    British journalists write that the losses of the Ukrainian security forces in the last month alone exceeded 20 thousand people killed and wounded.

    A good ukronatsik is a dead ukronatsik.
    [Center]
  27. Sergey Kuzmin
    Sergey Kuzmin 13 June 2022 09: 15
    +1
    It became clear to everyone: the more Ukronazi armed formations are destroyed, the more sober-minded appear, both abroad and in Ukraine itself. Conclusion: continue to destroy-destroy-destroy packs of Ukronazi warriors. Use all military-technical capabilities for this
  28. kulemin0025gmail.com
    kulemin0025gmail.com 13 June 2022 10: 36
    0
    Quote: Bolt Cutter
    They prophesied victory for Ukraine.
    It is worth noting that not all, but only those who did not hold weapons in their hands and became experts in libraries. The military were much more careful in their statements.

    And the Minister of Defense is English, also an expert from the library? He recently encouraged ukrov, saying that they are very strong and will soon win.
  29. kulemin0025gmail.com
    kulemin0025gmail.com 13 June 2022 10: 39
    0
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote from Carlos Sala
    His losses are catastrophic

    Where is the catastrophe?

    What do you see - progress?
  30. kulemin0025gmail.com
    kulemin0025gmail.com 13 June 2022 11: 00
    0
    Quote from Carlos Sala
    He took prisoners out of prisons, hired bandits-mercenaries, now he only had to take the crazy out of shelters. His losses are catastrophic

    Crazy they Ina will full. Only many in Europe have gone crazy. And to fight, there are fewer and fewer fools.
  31. Denis812
    Denis812 13 June 2022 13: 06
    0
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine will be in absolutely normal condition, which ensures their defeat by the forces of the RF Armed Forces. This is the normal state of the APU. Any other state of the APU is unacceptable.
  32. Artyom Khvaleba
    Artyom Khvaleba 15 June 2022 00: 40
    -2
    The article is not objective. If you already dashed off, then there should be links, and not sentences torn from the text.
  33. valentine light
    valentine light 15 June 2022 19: 36
    0
    Quite plausible sightings of the British.