Plans to shut down refineries in eastern Germany due to oil embargo from Russia lead to a mental re-creation of the Berlin Wall

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After agreeing on the 6th package of anti-Russian sanctions, which prescribed a partial embargo on oil from Russia, another line of split in the European Union showed itself. Moreover, this split is already threatening to pass not only along the borders of countries, but within the EU states. Representatives of the eastern federal states of Germany sharply criticized the decisions made.

The reason is that after 2022, Germany plans to abandon the operation of a large oil refinery in the city of Schwedt. It is located in the federal state of Brandenburg near the Polish border. The assets of this enterprise include Russian capital, and the German authorities, for this very reason, intend to stop using this refinery, whose work is almost entirely carried out on the basis of oil from Russia. In total, the refinery in Schwedt provides the German energy system with about 12 percent of oil refining.



Representatives of the eastern lands of Germany, as well as leftist parties in the Bundestag, demanded that the Scholz government make an exception for the plant in Schwedt - at least extend the operation of this enterprise on Russian oil. It is noted that otherwise the situation will go according to an extremely negative scenario: unemployment will begin to grow in the eastern lands, the rise in prices at gas stations may accelerate now against the backdrop of statements about the imminent cessation of refineries, there will be a shortage of fuel. All this will hit the economy of the eastern part of Germany, which will lead to a rollback and another discussion of the issue that the eastern lands of Germany are economically different from the western lands for the worse. This can also lead to political consequences, when the political field of Germany can be divided along territorial lines - East Germans simply do not want to submit to the will of the authorities in Berlin, who do not want to take into account their interests.

It should be noted that even a third of a century after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the economy of the eastern lands of Germany did not reach the level of the economy of the western lands. In Germany, many regard this as injustice and discrimination. Anti-Russian sanctions, which hit Germany itself, could lead to a split and exacerbate the economic differentiation of Germany. It turns out that the Scholz government is actively engaged in the mental reconstruction of the Berlin Wall - in economic and political terms ...
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  1. +15
    1 June 2022 07: 05
    Positive. You give the seventh package of sanctions.
    1. +9
      1 June 2022 07: 13
      The seventh package, the tenth ... We decided to cut off the tail piece by piece.
    2. +2
      1 June 2022 07: 19
      Soon it seems that Germany will definitely fall apart again into two states from these sanctions, and this will begin the political and economic collapse of Europe.
      1. +5
        1 June 2022 07: 46
        It will not fall apart as long as there is an occupational power and it will be so. They will say Putin's tax.
      2. -2
        1 June 2022 09: 59
        Quote: Simon
        Soon it seems that Germany will definitely fall apart again into two states from these sanctions

        rather, in a common hatred for Russia, it will rally, endure the cold winter, mobilize the army and we will have to put up a new statue of the liberator warrior
        1. +2
          1 June 2022 16: 58
          Quote: aybolyt678
          we will have to put up a new statue of the warrior of the liberator

          And where to put it?
      3. +3
        1 June 2022 11: 05
        Quote: Simon
        Soon it seems that Germany will definitely fall apart again into two states from these sanctions, and this will begin the political and economic collapse of Europe.

        It seems that these two pretzels, the bald watchdog Scholz and the lapdog Ursula Vonderlein, will cost Germany dearly, both politically and economically.
        Grandmother Merkel is probably baptized with two heels at the same time for the fact that all current events did not occur during her tenure as chancellor.
        1. +1
          1 June 2022 17: 00
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Grandmother Merkel is probably baptized with two heels at the same time for the fact that all current events did not occur during her tenure as chancellor.

          The main thing in politics is to be able to leave on time, and the legs are warm and satisfying in your pocket ...
      4. 0
        1 June 2022 16: 56
        Quote: Simon
        Soon it seems that Germany will definitely fall apart again into two states from these sanctions, and this will begin the political and economic collapse of Europe.

        If the Poles poke their noses at Ukraine, then it is very likely that Germany and Russia will have a common border, which will contribute to the reconstruction of the GDR.
    3. +13
      1 June 2022 07: 25
      lead to a mental re-creation of the Berlin Wall
      Bring on the GDR!
      1. +3
        1 June 2022 09: 07
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        lead to a mental re-creation of the Berlin Wall
        Bring on the GDR!

        Well, or the Federal German lands of Russia! Another Russian region!
        1. +1
          1 June 2022 15: 05
          Quote: Starover_Z
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          lead to a mental re-creation of the Berlin Wall
          Bring on the GDR!

          Well, or the Federal German lands of Russia! Another Russian region!

          Not bad either. :) More time consuming, of course, but I like the way you think. :)
        2. 0
          1 June 2022 17: 02
          Quote: Starover_Z
          Well, or the Federal German lands of Russia! Another Russian region!

          West Slavic Federal District, with the capital in the city of Medvezhyegorsk!
      2. +3
        1 June 2022 09: 19
        Rather, the Autonomous Republic of Germany, as part of the Russian Federation. Who will let them survive in Europe then? And so is another "enclave" like Kaliningrad. Give Dresden to the ruble integration!
        1. +1
          1 June 2022 09: 29
          Fantasy certainly has no limits, but there will be no division of Germany. At least for the foreseeable future.
          We must remain realistic.
        2. 0
          1 June 2022 17: 04
          Quote: Vlodek
          Rather, the Autonomous Republic of Germany, as part of the Russian Federation. Who will let them survive in Europe then? And so is another "enclave" like Kaliningrad. Give Dresden to the ruble integration!

          What enclave? Poland? No, I haven't heard... No.
      3. +4
        1 June 2022 12: 19
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        lead to a mental re-creation of the Berlin Wall
        Bring on the GDR!

        GDR or not GDR, but the wall was broken only physically. All these years, in the minds of the Germans, she stood intact.

        He was there as a tourist (both in the FRG and the GDR), until he became banned for "special services" to Germany, his wife went several times to sit in libraries and roam conferences - the "wall in the heads" is visible at every step.
        And it is unlikely that it will be possible to remove it in the next century.

        Try tomorrow by directive, by law, to say that Ukraine is an old, totalitarian-nationalist name and there is no Ukraine from Donbass to Poland and there was no Ukraine - only Russia.

        So here too. There have always been, are and will be "ossies" and "wessies". If there hadn't been Hitler, or at least it wouldn't have made him crazy to fight with Russia, maybe there would have been a "united Germany." BUT ... It turned out the way it happened.
      4. 0
        1 June 2022 15: 02
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        lead to a mental re-creation of the Berlin Wall
        Bring on the GDR!

        )))))))))))) Who agrees? Who is against?
        All for! Accepted unanimously. :)
        1. +1
          1 June 2022 17: 05
          Quote: Zamira
          )))))))))))) Who agrees? Who is against?
          All for! Accepted unanimously. :)

          On probation!
    4. +11
      1 June 2022 07: 48
      Quote: olhon
      Positive. You give the seventh package of sanctions.

      Russian denazification in Ukraine, more not in Ukraine, but in Europe, especially in Germany, although there is no war there. If such statements are made in the most prosperous EU country, the engine of the economy, then what can we say about limitorphs, yesterday I watched Finnish TV, there are such queues for bread, as we had in the early 90s, they distribute food packages to the poor. Europe is used to living a satisfying and prosperous life, but here it’s a “bummer”, although they don’t have a war either.
      1. +5
        1 June 2022 08: 30
        Europe is deliberately led to a big war.
        1. +2
          1 June 2022 09: 06
          Quote: Azim77
          Europe is deliberately led to a big war.

          No doubt, just as it was before WWI and WWII.
        2. +2
          1 June 2022 19: 29
          Quote: Azim77
          Europe is deliberately led to a big war.

          I sincerely, wholeheartedly hate the Yankees... Cynical pragmatists without honor and conscience, recognizing only the strength and right of the strong... But it would be wrong not to admit that until recently they have successfully implemented everything they planned. Two fraternal Slavic peoples quarreled to the point of bloodshed, organized an economic boycott of Russia, brought down the EU with sanctions, and removed a competitor in the form of a united Europe from the economic field ... They put the British John Bull "looking" in the Old World, and they themselves will deal with the resolution of the Fukushido paradox with China. ..
          In my opinion, it's time to give this global adventurer-grabber a kick in the paws before he has done irreparable troubles.
          Germany still has to wake up from a lethargic sleep, if it does not want to become cannon fodder in the next batch of Anglo-Saxons for world domination. Europe is again pregnant with a big world war. And again the peoples of Europe are being led to the slaughter for Anglo-Saxon interests...
          Maybe it's time to stop and think about yourself, and not about Uncle Sam's Wishlist? am
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      3. +2
        1 June 2022 09: 23
        So this is the "second stage of the operation" ... The first was the bummer of the dollar, the second was "to screw up a united Europe." While everything is according to plan. Most likely the final goals: the increment of territories (perhaps not only Ukraine) and the reconstruction of the USSR. In other economic and political realities.
        1. -1
          1 June 2022 09: 37
          Quote: Vlodek
          Most likely the final goals: the increment of territories (perhaps not only Ukraine) and the reconstruction of the USSR.

          Do not feed the inmates on the porch.
        2. +4
          1 June 2022 10: 02
          Quote: Vlodek
          and the re-establishment of the USSR. In other economic and political realities.

          first, the realities need to be recreated...: traditional values, the image of the future, revision of the results of privatization and social justice. And this leads to a revolution. The tops are clearly not ready
          1. +2
            1 June 2022 10: 18
            Well, there will be no revision ... They stole and stole. This is REALITY. And it will not hurt to recreate the economic ties that were destroyed in 1991. An increase in the sales market, the ruble zone (domestic consumption), would not hurt! We will live without Labus and Chukhons, but it would not hurt to attract Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan. They also do not live very sweetly (I'm not talking about their elites, they are not bad everywhere) ...
            Socialism has compromised itself as a system. Unfortunately. Maybe someday we will "try" to establish again "from each according to his ability, to each according to his work", but hardly in the foreseeable future
            1. +1
              1 June 2022 17: 23
              Quote: Vlodek
              Well, there will be no revision ... They stole and stole. This is REALITY.

              Who knows ... As for the "stolen and stolen," I partially agree. In terms of money supply. To hell with them - let them choke.
              But the means of production, land - everything that is in the earth (minerals in any form), everything that is ON the earth (forest land, water resources) - should be returned to the rightful owner, that is, the people of the Russian Federation. As well as strategic industries, the energy component - all this absolutely needs to be nationalized. Health care and education should not be left in private hands either.
              Quote: Vlodek
              Socialism has compromised itself as a system.

              It is not socialism that has compromised itself. It was his PEOPLE who compromised him - those who wanted to take possession of everything that was not built by them.
            2. 0
              1 June 2022 22: 24
              Quote: Vlodek
              Well, there will be no revision ... They stole and stole.

              I do not agree, there are already precedents.
              Quote: Vlodek
              And it will not hurt to recreate the economic ties that were destroyed in 1991.

              They are no longer needed ... the problem is not in economic ties, the problem is in human nature. A person has four instincts - food, sexual, preservation and dominance. Each instinct has its own images - symbols .. These images are symbols, among our people, formed according to the Western model. Where the measure and the main symbol of success (the instinct of dominance) is money. Not knowledge, skill and intelligence with patriotism, but MONEY !!! who have no homeland!
              The engine of this phenomenon is ADVERTISING. it is also a hidden hypostasis of the Ideology of Consumerism.
              Quote: Vlodek
              Socialism has compromised itself as a system. Unfortunately.

              Socialism, on the contrary, has shown itself to be a very tenacious system, the USSR is not a crisis of Socialism, but a crisis of the country's governance. Here's a historical example for you - Tsar Nicholas 2 freed members of the imperial family from any reports, inspections, etc. ... as a result: all enterprises tried to make members of the Romanov family themselves shareholders. No matter what they checked, the economy collapsed and the tasks were not solved ... In the same way, Khrushchev freed the members of the Central Committee of the Party from checks, and in the same way, tasks stopped being solved
          2. +2
            1 June 2022 17: 02
            Quote: aybolyt678
            The tops are clearly not ready

            It's true. Not ready. But it may turn out that they will have no other choice.
            The situation in the country is very complicated and very, very unpredictable.
      4. +3
        1 June 2022 09: 56
        accustomed to live well and prosperously

        Moreover, at the expense of Russia and the former republics of the union, buying resources from us at low prices (setting prices for them ourselves), then selling us our goods at inflated prices - this was their satiety, we were a kind of "natives" for them. ..
      5. +1
        1 June 2022 10: 50
        Quote: tihonmarine
        there are such queues for bread, as we had in the early 90s, give out poor people packages with groceries.
        Note DISTRIBUTION!!! In the 90s and other years, we NEVER DISTRIBUTED PRODUCTS! (There were promotional distributions in the 90s, but these were not even tears, but molecules from the general consumption of products) But they sold! That is, they receive products is free, and we (according to coupons) received the right for own money to buy this very food .. I think that if we start distributing food for free, then there will be queues today .. A lot of people confuse food stamps there and food stamps that we had .. But I hope that the "holy 90s" in the West are ahead (or better 1917 and that's all)
        1. +1
          1 June 2022 10: 53
          They handed out humanitarian aid for free, they just handed it out to refugees and internally displaced people - don't exacerbate ....
          1. 0
            1 June 2022 11: 29
            Have you ever heard anything about food stamps \ cards in Western countries?
            1. 0
              1 June 2022 11: 35
              Did you read my text?
      6. +1
        1 June 2022 17: 10
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Europe is used to living a satisfying and prosperous life, but here it’s a “bummer”, although they don’t have a war either.

        We say so: chickens are counted in the fall! In late autumn, we will calculate, we - stocks in the bins of the Motherland, the EU - the number of sanctions packages adopted ... bully
        1. +2
          1 June 2022 19: 53
          Quote: isv000
          Here in the late autumn and count

          It’s a sound thought ... If only the powers that be wouldn’t slip, wouldn’t screw them off the path of the righteous, wouldn’t bend their knees ... wouldn’t back down when it would be necessary with an iron hand to turn the gas valve valve to “CLOSED”. Wheat would not be shipped to western world-eaters, instead of those starving in Africa, they would not put URANIUM on amers' plants for the manufacture of assemblies for their nuclear power plants ... IT IS NECESSARY TO DROP OUR BUSINESS CAPTAIN PIETAKS FROM THE EYE! and they would no longer hide behind "concern for the people", stuffing their pockets with superprofits, to the detriment of the national interests of the country. And finally, they got busy with the arrangement of this very COUNTRY!
          Therefore, it's time to free the COMPRADOR bastard from worries about the "good of the people" and send it offshore, where they have accounts and other real estate ... Maybe then the air will become cleaner ...
          But for this it is necessary that the voice of the people be heard, and the political will become STEEL!
          IMHO.
          1. +1
            2 June 2022 14: 07
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Therefore, it's time to free the COMPRADOR bastard from worries about the "good of the people" and send it offshore, where they have accounts and other real estate ...

            I have been calling for a long time to turn back the clock - to carry out nationalization and recreate state-owned enterprises!
  2. +6
    1 June 2022 07: 07
    The interests of the common people are of no interest to anyone - the main thing is the sanctions adopted under the dictation of a foreign partner ...
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      1. +1
        1 June 2022 09: 08
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Fucking politicians in Europe have no time to pay attention to the interests of their people

        So all modern politicians and rulers of Europe were trained in the USA, and they serve them like mutts.
    2. +13
      1 June 2022 07: 14
      the main thing is the sanctions adopted under the dictation of a foreign partner ...

      moreover, the foreign partner himself only increases the supply of Russian oil to himself. For March 2, the United States doubled its purchases of Russian oil :)) like this, the Americans laid the brunt of the sanctions on European patients
    3. +6
      1 June 2022 07: 17
      The paradox is that sanctions harm Europe itself, and destructively, but they cannot calm down and continue to stubbornly destroy their economies to the applause of the United States and the squeal of Ukraine.
      1. +2
        1 June 2022 10: 08
        Quote from ARIONkrsk
        The paradox is that sanctions harm Europe itself

        there is no paradox. The basic principle of Western politics is the pivot theory. That is, not to buy a country, but to buy a pivotal person in this country. It doesn’t matter what, money or blackmail ... So they tried for a long time to buy the Central Committee of the CPSU, in the end they succeeded. Now they have European politicians on the hook... And having the media in their hands, they form a public demand.
  3. +2
    1 June 2022 07: 08
    lead to a mental re-creation of the Berlin Wall
    Government to Brussels or on the chopping block! feel
    1. 0
      1 June 2022 17: 14
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      lead to a mental re-creation of the Berlin Wall
      Government to Brussels or on the chopping block! feel

      No, winter will put everything in its place. Hundreds of thousands of lads and maidens will play the role of a Trojan horse, they will burn tires there, and, if there are trunks, they can stir up the Maidan. Enlightened Europe will still wash its face with cold sweat from these rascals ... And if another 10 lyams from Africa catch up, then the chopping block will seem like a fairy tale to them!
  4. +8
    1 June 2022 07: 12
    the Scholz government is actively engaged in the mental reconstruction of the Berlin Wall - economically and politically ...

    And why only in "mental"? There, I remember, many took parts of the wall "as a keepsake". Will be back soon. They will remember how they lived under the GDR, and how the Westerners humiliated and deprived them all the time, and they will build a new wall. But all the refugees will be left to Scholz.
    1. +2
      1 June 2022 09: 10
      Quote: Egoza
      They will remember how they lived under the GDR, and how the Westerners humiliated and deprived them all the time, and they will build a new wall.

      Gdrovians lived, to the envy of other CMEA countries, well, also Czechoslovaks.
  5. +7
    1 June 2022 07: 17
    Quote: Egoza
    Yes, how Westerners humiliated and deprived them all the time

    In-from ... What does it mean it will lead, since they only demolished the concrete, but the difference remained, they did the same in the GDR that they did everywhere later. Where is the magnificent GDR pharmaceutical?Baer immediately bought the factories, closed them, and the full European market for the Easterners has come
  6. +6
    1 June 2022 07: 22
    For European pigs, it would be nice to read Krylov's fable "The Pig under the Oak". Raw materials are the basis of the economy. hi
    1. +4
      1 June 2022 07: 30
      A good fable, now especially relevant
  7. +5
    1 June 2022 07: 29
    Freezing ears to spite everyone continues
  8. +2
    1 June 2022 07: 37
    All this will hit the economy of the eastern part of Germany, which will lead to a rollback and another discussion of the issue that the eastern lands of Germany are economically worse than the western lands

    Well, in order for justice to be observed, in the west of Germany, then two factories need to be closed. Or three...
  9. +9
    1 June 2022 07: 43
    Hungary has requested 18 billion euros to switch to the oil of other countries, but how much does Germany need for such a transition? A rather interesting fight is brewing. Europe has decided to depend on American oil companies, someone should notice our huge oil supplies. They will run backwards. They did well with gas, the price settled down by $ 1000. Let's see how the European economy can withstand such energy prices. Green energy, which does not help to drop prices.
    1. +1
      1 June 2022 17: 19
      Quote: tralflot1832
      They did well with gas, the price settled down by $ 1000. Let's see how the European economy can withstand such energy prices. Green energy, which does not help to drop prices.

      Our task is to bring the cost of gas in the geyrop to $1500 - the profitability threshold of the German industry is $1400... bully
  10. +4
    1 June 2022 07: 47
    Plans to shut down refineries in eastern Germany due to oil embargo from Russia lead to a mental re-creation of the Berlin Wall
    . Politicians play their games, others have to suffer....
    However, those politicians were chosen by those who then "suffer".
    Everything is interconnected, in one way or another.
  11. +4
    1 June 2022 07: 53
    The assets of this enterprise include Russian capital, and the German authorities, for this very reason, intend to stop using this refinery, whose work is almost entirely carried out on the basis of oil from Russia.

    Liver sausage has gone crazy from anti-Russian hysteria, ruining his country.
  12. +3
    1 June 2022 08: 24
    The worse the countries supplying weapons to Ukraine, the better for us.
  13. +5
    1 June 2022 08: 25
    and I'm tired of reading 100 times a day in the news about how Europe will introduce an embargo, etc.. I would generally cover both the oil and gas taps for a week and watch an exciting show :)
    1. +1
      1 June 2022 09: 30
      Now this show will not be full-fledged ... It needs to be done on December 20th. Merry Christmas to you, gentlemen "tseyuurpa". And after the end of our "New Year's holidays" go to work and ask: "Are you warm, girl? Are you warm in the sanctions?" And then decide how they will continue to live ... And now what ... Well, a small inconvenience, they will get out
    2. 0
      1 June 2022 17: 21
      Quote: Shkworen
      and I'm tired of reading 100 times a day in the news about how Europe will introduce an embargo, etc.. I would generally cover both the oil and gas taps for a week and watch an exciting show :)

      Equipment for diagnostics? wink
  14. +2
    1 June 2022 08: 33
    As long as there is something to cut in Germany, the Americans will not stop. There will be both 7 and 10 packages of sanctions ...............
    1. 0
      1 June 2022 17: 21
      Quote: APASUS
      As long as there is something to cut in Germany, the Americans will not stop. There will be both 7 and 10 packages of sanctions ...............

      Read the entire list, please!
      1. 0
        2 June 2022 08: 27
        Quote: isv000
        Quote: APASUS
        As long as there is something to cut in Germany, the Americans will not stop. There will be both 7 and 10 packages of sanctions ...............

        Read the entire list, please!

        And why announce, it’s worth remembering our perestroika. The Americans sawed all enterprises indiscriminately, under the pretext of building democracy in Russia ..
  15. +1
    1 June 2022 08: 45
    It should be noted that even a third of a century after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the economy of the eastern lands of Germany did not reach the level of the economy of the western lands.

    All animals are equal, but some are more equal. And how happy the Ossies were that the Wessies took them "home"! They sang songs, danced...
  16. 0
    1 June 2022 10: 29
    Discrimination against East Germans began to be discussed immediately after the euphoria of the “fall of the Berlin Wall” passed and the dull everyday life of German capitalism set in. It will not be surprising if, over time, some part of the Germans will again put on white armbands on their sleeves and begin to actively cooperate with the new military-civilian administration. But which one is up to the reader.
  17. 0
    1 June 2022 10: 59
    When we are asked the question: what is now in Ukraine, and earlier in the Baltic states, served as an example for the introduction of various discriminatory practices in relation to our own population on the basis of nationality, religion, language, professional affiliation or status in public associations (parties, unions, trade unions, etc.) ), the defeat of huge groups of the population in their rights, I suggest everyone to see how the FRG destroyed the GDR: industry, government, army, special services, sports, art, habitat, ideology, school, etc....
  18. 0
    1 June 2022 11: 23
    Do you observe the mental front line? Well, stupid! And she is!
  19. +1
    1 June 2022 16: 21
    I would like to see a real division into the FRG and the GDR!
    East Germans themselves are probably fed up with Western relatives (not all of course)!?
  20. 0
    1 June 2022 16: 25
    Yes, somehow do not care about their mentality.
    We have to solve our problems. And their inner world is somehow purple. If they want, let them climb into their shells and break off relations with us.

    If we remove the rare earth metals that are mined from iPhones, then such a product as a mobile phone will simply disappear. Instead, there will be devices that were used in the first half of the 90s.
  21. 0
    2 June 2022 01: 58
    Who is who, and the East Germans have long tasted the delights of unification. In 15, a German told me in Berlin that if you were now (in 2015) in Germany holding a referendum on the unification of the country, then without options, the GDR would have remained separately.
  22. 0
    2 June 2022 14: 52
    The news is good. A wall to the west is needed. And higher.