SS troops and the Wehrmacht in the Battle of Kursk. Comparative analysis of combat use

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Translation of the essay by Roman Toeppel “Waffen-SS und Wehrmacht in der Schlacht bei Kursk. Ein Vergleich im operativen Einsatz”, published in the collection “SS Troops. New Research, Ferdinand Schoening, Padeborn, 2014.
Translation: Slug_BDMP


Introduction


On April 15, 1943, Adolf Hitler signed the operational order of the Headquarters of the Wehrmacht No. 6 on the offensive operation "Citadel". The operation was an offensive in converging directions in the area of ​​​​the city of Kursk with the aim of encircling and destroying the Soviet troops concentrated there.



If successful, the Wehrmacht significantly reduced the front line and thus freed up reserves for operations in other sectors. In addition, it was supposed to capture a large number of prisoners and able-bodied civilians to work for the needs of Germany (Appendix 2).

Initially, Hitler planned to launch an offensive in early May, but these dates were shifted over and over again. This made it possible for both German and Soviet troops to better prepare for the upcoming summer battles. Operation Citadel, which began on July 5, 1943, resulted in an almost two-month series of battles for the cities of Kursk, Orel and Kharkov. Historian Karl-Heinz Frieser later called it "the greatest battle in stories". In terms of the number of troops involved, the Battle of Kursk was unparalleled in the entire Second World War: already in the first two weeks of fighting, about 2 million people, 5 aircraft, 000 tanks and self-propelled guns and almost 39 guns.

For a comparative analysis of the combat use of the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS, the operation "Citadel" is the best suited - the first, offensive for the Germans, phase of the Battle of Kursk. Most of the formations participating in it during this period, at least during the first week, were in approximately equal conditions - they constantly fought offensive battles. Subsequently, they then defended themselves, then went on to counterattacks. Units and formations were withdrawn from the battle, sent to other sectors. Thus, a correct comparison seems difficult.

The purpose of this short study is to try to answer three questions:

- Were the SS formations participating in the Battle of Kursk better equipped than similar Wehrmacht formations?

- Did the SS formations justify the hopes placed on them?

- Did the SS troops suffer higher losses compared to the Wehrmacht?

By answering them, one can realistically assess the combat effectiveness of the SS troops.

I. Were the SS formations better equipped than those of the Wehrmacht?


One can speak with a high degree of confidence about the numerical strength of the German troops participating in Operation Citadel, since diaries of the combat operations of all three armies involved in the operation have been preserved. Documents of operational departments (Ia) are kept in the Federal Archive - Military Archive (BA-MA): Army Group "Kempf" - archival number Rh 20-8/83; 9th Army - RH 20-9 / 134; 4th Panzer Army - RH21-4/104.

33 German divisions took part in the "Citadel": 17 infantry, 5 motorized infantry and 11 tank. In addition, a large number of separate units were involved, reporting directly to the commands of the armies and army groups: for example, separate tank, anti-tank, self-propelled artillery battalions.

The 9th Army, under the command of Colonel General Walter Model, advancing on Kursk from the north, from the Orel region, consisted of 17 divisions. There were no SS divisions in its composition. Her offensive lasted exactly one week - from July 5 to July 11, 1943. On July 12, the Red Army launched its counterattack on Orel - Operation Kutuzov. As a result of this, the entire northern wing of the German troops went on the defensive.

From the south, from the Belgorod region, 4TA and AG Kempf (named after its commander, General of the Tank Forces Werner Kempf) advanced.

The AG "Kempf", numbering seven divisions, was entrusted with the task of covering the eastern wing of the 4th TA, Colonel General Herman Goth, from possible Soviet counterattacks.

The main task in the southern direction was assigned to 4TA: to break through the defenses in depth of the Soviet troops as quickly as possible and, advancing north, connect with the 9th Army, thus closing the encirclement around the enemy forces on the Kursk Bulge. 4TA was the most powerful formation participating in the Citadel, and consisted of ten divisions. Nine of them took part in the offensive. These included the Panzergrenadier division of the Wehrmacht "Grossdeutschland" (hereinafter: pg.d. "VG") and the II SS Panzer Corps, which included the Panzergrenadier divisions of the SS "Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler" (hereinafter in the text : Leibstandarte), "Reich" and "Dead Head".

The staff strength of the SS panzer-grenadier divisions was higher than that of similar army divisions. The number of their personnel, equipment and weapons was even higher than that of army tank divisions. Each of the three SS divisions consisted of about 20 men. They consisted of five motorized infantry battalions, and not three, as in army formations. In addition, they had two light artillery battalions, and not one each, like the Wehrmacht tank divisions.

P-g.d. "VG" in this respect was like an SS division. Only she and the Leibstandarte had reinforced motorized infantry battalions - five companies each, and not four, like everyone else.

Even greater was the superiority in the number of tanks. See Table 1.

Table 1. Equipment of the divisions participating in the Citadel operation with tanks and self-propelled guns.


Notes to table 1.

1) Availability details:
- tanks - on 11.07.43 (BA-MA, RH 10/60, pp. 57-59),
- assault guns - on 11.07.43 (BA-MA, RH 10/62, p. 92),
- anti-tank self-propelled guns - on 13.07.43 (BA-MA, RH 10/63, pp. 62-65);

2) the number of armored vehicles shown in table 1 includes both combat-ready vehicles and those under repair and in the process of being transported from factories in Germany;

3) table 1 does not take into account the BTT of units temporarily assigned to divisions for the duration of the operation "Citadel";

4) modern tanks include Pz IV with a long-barreled gun, Pz V "Panther",
Pz VI "Tiger" and captured T-34s; to obsolete: Pz I, Pz II, Pz III, Pz IV with a short-barreled gun, Pz 35 (t), Pz 38 (t) and command vehicles based on them.


Equipping divisions II because. SS and pg.d. "VG" the rest of the Wehrmacht soldiers could only envy. All of them included full-fledged divisions of self-propelled howitzers "Hummel", "Vespe" and "Grille". They also had one company of the latest Tiger tanks (14 units), which terrified the opponents.

In total, 147 Tigers took part in the Battle of Kursk. 90 of them are not mentioned in Table 1, as they were part of the 503rd and 505th separate heavy tank battalions.
In addition, pg.d. "VG" was the only owner of a whole battalion of "Tigers" - 45 units, and she was the first to receive the latest Panther tanks. Joseph Goebbels, in his diary entry dated April 1.04.1943, XNUMX, called "Greater Germany" the "Leibstandarte of the Wehrmacht". Thanks to high-ranking patrons in the high command of the Wehrmacht, "VG" had priority in supply compared to other army formations.

We must also not forget about divisions of assault guns. In the summer of 1943, these machines were especially appreciated on the Eastern Front. In reports from the front, their dignity is extolled literally to the skies. An example of this is the report of the Major of the General Staff von Busse to the headquarters of Army Group Center (BA-MA, RH 10/54, p. 87), as well as the report of the commander of the 200th training division of assault guns on a business trip to the Eastern Front (BA-MA, RH 10/58, p. 358).

However, the situation with the supply of II divisions cannot be tolerated. SS on all SS troops participating in the "Citadel", and consider that they all had priority in comparison with the Wehrmacht. Even such an illustrious compound as p-g.d. SS "Viking" was equipped worse than its comrades from II because. SS and in its condition corresponded to the usual pg.d. Wehrmacht. In early July 1943, the Viking had 46 tanks (mostly obsolete), 6 assault guns and 14 anti-tank self-propelled guns. For comparison: the 16th pg.d. Wehrmacht, who fought side by side with the Viking in the Donbass, had 53 tanks and 14 anti-tank self-propelled guns. Both divisions had been on vacation since April 1943, were replenished and entered the battle only on 17.07.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX.

It can be confidently asserted that the best equipment of the Leibstandarte, Reich and Totenkopf divisions in the summer of 1943 is explained by the fact that they were assigned the most responsible tasks during the attack on Kursk. This was also envisaged by the “Proposal for the conduct of Operation K”, presented by the Chief of Staff of the Kempf Group on 1.04.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX (BA-MA, RH 20-8/81). Some army divisions (not only "VG") that were supposed to participate in the "Citadel" were also strengthened. The most striking example of this is the 78th "assault" division. The 78th had an anti-tank self-propelled gun division (26 Marder self-propelled guns) and the 189th assault gun division (31 pieces). This, in fact, an infantry division was so “pumped up” with weapons that during the battles of the summer of 1943 this led to great difficulties. Major of the General Staff von Busse wrote the following in his report to the headquarters of Army Group Center dated 17.08.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX:

“The 78th “assault” division in its current state is incapacitated. At a minimum, an anti-tank self-propelled gun battalion should be removed from its composition, since it also has an assault gun battalion. The division is overloaded with weapons, the commanders are not able to effectively dispose of them. The connection is not able to ensure the evacuation of damaged vehicles and compensate for losses in the crews.

(BA-MA, RH 10/54, p. 91).

II. Did the SS formations suffer excessive losses in the Battle of Kursk?


Division II. because The SS were operating in the decisive sector of Operation Citadel, which, of course, meant high losses. However, the question is different - were these losses higher than in the formations of the Wehrmacht, and can they be considered "excessive"? Can the accusations from the Wehrmacht that the SS achieved success only at the cost of unjustifiably high losses be considered fair?

A typical example is the statement of Erich von Manstein in his Lost Victories:

"... The high bloody price that they (SS) paid, most often does not go to any comparison with the results achieved."

Researchers (for example, Bernd Wegner in his book "Hitler's Political Soldiers") point out that the SS Reichsführer H. Himmler himself constantly emphasized the high losses of the SS troops. Thus, he created the glory of "especially stubborn and fanatical fighters" for his wards. However, such "advertising" was a double-edged sword.

Among the Germans, an opinion was soon formed about excessive losses in the SS troops, which scared away many potential volunteers. In the eyes of the professional military, this was also not a "compliment": you need to inflict high losses on the enemy at the cost of your own minimum. The example of the 18th Panzer Division clearly shows that large own losses do not mean a high combat value of a unit. Although there is no complete data on the losses of the 18th TD in Operation Citadel, however, one thing is certain - they were among the highest in the 1943 summer campaign of the year. So high that there was no point in replenishing them. This tank division was disbanded and an artillery division was created on its basis.

The catastrophe of the 18th TD is explained by the fact that it was one of the weakest among all tank divisions, and by the beginning of the offensive it had not been replenished to its full strength. In addition, it is necessary to add tactical errors that led to failures and high losses (ZhBD 18th TD for the period 28.06.43/12.07.43/27 - 18/139/10; BA-MA, RH 12-17 / 23, pp. XNUMX-XNUMX and XNUMX–XNUMX). Even in the history of the division, written by one of its veterans, Wolfgang Paul, it honestly and without embellishment speaks of the complete failure of the connection near Kursk.

Nothing of the kind can be blamed on II divisions. because SS. In the midst of the fighting on 12.07.1943/1.07.43/2.08.43, the commander of the GA "South" E. von Manstein visited the corps and expressed "gratitude for outstanding successes and exemplary behavior in battles." This was entered in the railway corps for XNUMX - XNUMX (ВА-МА, RS2-2/17, RS2-2/18). A few days later, the commander of the 4th TA, Herman Goth, noted the SS divisions subordinate to him in the order and expressed "highest gratitude" for the "restraint, steadfastness and unparalleled courage" shown in previous battles (order dated 18.07, BA-MA, RH 21-4/111, p. 115).

The fact that this was not a banal praise for raising the morale of the troops is evidenced by the fact that the commander of II. because SS Paul Hausser, at the end of the offensive on Kursk, was awarded the Oak Leaves to the Knight's Cross at the suggestion of G. Goth. Hausser was the only one of the four generals of the 4th TA awarded after the "Citadel". The commander of the XXXXVIII Panzer Corps, General Otto von Knobelsdorff, received only a written thanks from G. Goth, and General Eugen Ott, who commanded the LII Army Corps, received nothing at all.

But what price did the SS divisions pay for their success in Operation Citadel? Were their losses higher than the average for the troops involved in the operation? A simple comparison with other compounds will not answer this question. Firstly, the offensive of the 9th Army formations stalled on July 11, and the troops of 8 A and 4 TA advanced until July 17.

Secondly, it is not enough to compare the absolute number of losses of connections, since their initial number differed significantly. It would be logical to compare the relative percentage of losses from their original number. The results for the formations of the Army Group "South" are shown in Table 2.

Table 2. Losses of manpower of the German troops on the southern sector of the front in the Battle of Kursk in the period 4.07.1943/18.07.1943/XNUMX - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX


Source: Kursk Operation Simulation and Validation Exercise - Phase II (KOSAVE II), prepared by Officeof the Chiefof Staff, US Army Concepts Analysis Agency, Bethesda, Maryland, 1998

Notes to table 2:

1) Table 2 does not take into account 57 p.d, since she did not conduct offensive operations and performed an auxiliary, defensive task. Also, 198 p.d., which entered the battle a few days after the start of the offensive, was not taken into account;

2) the table also takes into account the losses of units attached to divisions;

3) some formations of the GA "South" already on June 4 began to carry out local offensives in order to improve their positions. Therefore, the data are given from 4.07.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX.


According to the data presented, it can be seen that the highest relative losses were suffered by the infantry divisions. If we consider only tank formations, then the losses of the SS troops are the highest. However, II since. The SS bore the brunt of the fighting in the attack on Kursk. In this case, the losses no longer look excessive.

This is even more striking when comparing the losses of armored vehicles of the formations participating in the Citadel operation. Table 3 shows the losses of Tiger, P III, P IV tanks and assault guns according to the OKW report on 14.07.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX.

Table 3. Losses of tanks of tank divisions that participated in the operation "Citadel" in the period 5.07.43/14.07.43/XNUMX - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX.


Notes to table 3:

1) the table does not take into account 12 etc., since it participated in the Citadel operation with only a small part of the forces;

2) data on the initial state:
- Tanks 11.07.43/10/60, VA-MA, RH 57/59, pp. 30.06.1943–XNUMX (XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX),
- assault guns RH 10/62, p. 92 (30.06.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX);

3) losses:
- GA "South" 14.07.43, RH 10/64, p. 67;
- GA "Center" 14.07.43, RH 10/65, p. 12.


From these data, it becomes clear that divisions II, since. SS is surprisingly small. And the further development of events does not change this ratio. On 27.07.1943/31/5, the irretrievable losses of the corps amounted to XNUMX tanks and XNUMX assault guns. It is clear that these formations initially had more tanks than others, and therefore the percentage of losses is not so high. It also means being able to overcome enemy resistance faster and thus avoid losses.

However, the II divisions, since the SS, bore the brunt of the fighting in the offensive. Against this background, we can draw an unambiguous conclusion: the loss of tanks is surprisingly small.

III. Were the SS divisions "elite"? What was their combat value in the summer of 1943?


The Battle of Kursk did not end after Operation Citadel was stopped. The Soviet side believes that it lasted until August 23, when the Red Army liberated Kharkov. In order to answer the question of how the SS divisions showed themselves in the Battle of Kursk, it is necessary to consider further events in the summer of 1943 on the southern wing of the Eastern Front. The Leibstandarte division no longer participated in these battles, since after the fall of the Mussolini regime on 25.07.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX it was sent to Italy. Hitler explained the decision to send the “Leibstandarte” to Italy to the commander of the “Center” General Field Marshal von Kluge as follows:

"Only first-class troops, who are also ideologically close to fascism, can achieve something there."

On the contrary, the divisions "Reich" and "Dead Head" continued to fight in the most critical areas of the GA "South". At the end of July, they took part in a counter-offensive against the Soviet foothold on the Mius River in the Donbass. In early August, together with the SS Viking division, they were sent to the Kharkov region and subordinated to the III. This was the final phase of the Battle of Kursk. Chief of Staff III, because Colonel Ernst Merk described them to one of the OKH inspectors:

“SS divisions, thanks to their excellent staffing and weapons, are capable of much. However, the quality of command and cohesion leave much to be desired. They need strong leadership and constant control from the higher command.”

(Source: Major General Ferber's report to the command of the GA "South" dated 17.08.43; VA-MA, RH 10/54, p. 112).

The conclusions of Colonel Merck can be considered controversial, since the SS divisions were subordinated to the III for only a short time. However, the opinion about bad command in the SS troops was very common, both during the war and after - in the memoirs of army commanders.

Indeed, the SS troops suffered from a constant shortage of officers and non-commissioned officers. The reason for this was to a large extent their rapid numerical growth. In the first half of 1943 alone, six new SS divisions were formed. This had dire consequences for the already existing connections. Even the three most privileged SS divisions - the Leibstandarte, the Reich and the Totenkopf - were sorely lacking in officers and junior command staff. This was especially noticeable in the Leibstandarte.

Despite a long break in the fighting before the start of the attack on Kursk in early July 1943, 277 officers and 1 non-commissioned officers were absent from the division. (Report on the status of the division "Leibstandarte" dated 1.07.43, BA-MA, RH 10/312, p. 2). The reason for this was the formation of 12 td. SS Hitler Youth. Not only the replenishment, previously intended for the Leibstandarte, but also most of the experienced officers and non-commissioned officers of the Leibstandarte, who made up the personnel of the new formation, went to its staffing.

Things were no better in the other two SS divisions. In the Reich, 286 officer and 734 non-commissioned officer positions were vacant, in the Dead Head - 259 and 967, respectively (Reports on the status of divisions dated 1.07.43, BA-MA, RH 10/313, p. 1 and RH 10/314, p. 1).

On the contrary, in the tank divisions of the Wehrmacht participating in Operation Citadel, the situation with the command staff was much better. Unfortunately, no documents on pg.d. "VG" at the above point in time, but, for example, the worst situation with the officers was at 2 td. - 21 officer vacancies, with non-commissioned officers - in 12, etc. – 388 (status reports 2 vol. dated 1.07.43, BA-MA, RH 10/141, page 2; 12 vol. - RH 10/150, page 1). In other tank divisions of the Wehrmacht, the number of vacancies was even smaller, for example, 6. was staffed by 100% (status report 6 etc. dated 1.07.43, BA-MA, RH 10/145, p. 1).

The main question, however, is different: how did the shortage of command personnel in the SS divisions affect the quality of command in battle and was it the cause of unjustified losses? Undoubtedly, command errors lead to unnecessary losses, and there are enough such examples in the history of the SS troops. A vivid example of this is the events of late July 1943 during the counter-offensive against the Soviet bridgehead on the Mius. As at Kursk, II plays the main role in the operation. SS. And the very first attack on one of the dominant heights fails with large losses of parts of the corps.

The command of the 6th Army, which was subordinated to II because. SS, prescribes more flexible actions. It strongly discourages repeating subsequent attacks in the same location. However, the next day, the SS strike in the same direction and with the same result: heavy losses for the Totenkopf Division. After that, the 6A command directly orders II because. SS change the direction of the blow and bypass the impregnable height. This eventually leads to success and the elimination of the Soviet bridgehead. (Source: 6th Army Combat Journal 17.07.43/17.08.43/20 - 6/303/123, BA-MA, RH 149-XNUMX / XNUMX, pp. XNUMX-XNUMX).

However, in the summer of 1943, the Wehrmacht also had enough such examples, and at all levels of command. For example, the chief of staff of the p-g.d. "VG" Colonel Oldwig von Natzmer believes that "the level of qualification of the division commanders as a whole does not correspond to the position held" (Report of Major of the General Staff Ferber to the headquarters of the GA "South" dated 17.08.43, VA-MA, RH 10/54, p. 113).

As an example of illiterate leadership at the regimental level, we can cite the actions of the tank regiment "VG" and the 39th tank regiment under the command of Colonel Count Hyacinth von Strachwitz during the "Citadel". He threw the tanks of both regiments into frontal attacks, not paying attention to losses. His immediate superior, the commander of the 10th Tank Brigade, Karl Decker, in his report dated 17.07.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX, did not find other words to describe Strachwitz's actions, except for "madness" and "stupidity" (BA-MA, RH 10/54, p. 58).

You can give an example of a lower, company level. The commander of the 505th heavy tank battalion, advancing on Kursk from the north, complained to the checking officer of the OKH:

“Due to the inexperience of the company commander sent from the reserve, who previously held either rear positions or the position of commander of a headquarters company, the battalion attack ended in failure and cost the loss of several Tigers.

(From the report of Lieutenant Colonel Count Kielmansegg on his assignment to the 9th Army, 11.07.1943/10/54, VA-MA, RH 61/XNUMX, p. XNUMX).

And this was no exception. The report of the 10th tank brigade, which fought on the southern wing of the front, says that all the commanders of the companies of the brigade equipped with "Tigers" and "Panthers" are too young and inexperienced (Report of the 10th brigade on the status of the officers of the units "Tigers" and "Panthers", 31.08.1943/10/56, VA-MA, RH 135/XNUMX, p. XNUMX).

It also happened that army generals were to blame for the failures of the SS formations. On August 4, 1943, during the German counter-offensive on the Soviet bridgehead on the Donets, the commander of XXXX tk. General Siegfried Heinrici sent his subordinate SS division "Viking" in a hopeless attack, despite the protests of its commander. It ended in failure and big losses. (ZhBD XXXX tk, 1.08–15.08.43, VA-MA, RH 24-40/54, entry dated 4.08.43). The next day, the commander of the Viking division, SS Brigadeführer Herbert Gille, refused to follow the order of the corps command and launch an attack without preparation and reconnaissance of the area. This is reflected in the hull's railroad records dated 5.08.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX.

Nevertheless, accusations of incompetence, leading to unjustified losses, are constantly heard against the SS by the army. A possible reason for this was the special, privileged position of the SS troops in the structure of the German armed forces, the resulting distrust on the part of the Wehrmacht and the resulting conflicts. A specific example can be found in the ZhBD of the 4th Panzer Army dated 13.07.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX:

“In a conversation with the commander of the GA “South”, the chief of staff of the 4TA pointed out the difficulties arising from the fact that the issues of the state of the personnel and the replenishment of the SS formations are resolved in addition to the army command, and it does not have comprehensive information about this.”

(BA-MA, RH 21-4/104, p. 157).

On August 20, 1943, General Otto Wöhler, who had taken command of the Kempf group five days earlier, filed a report on the removal of SS Gruppenführer Walter Krueger from command of the Reich division. The reason for this was not at all the latter's tendency to make rash decisions. Against. O. Wöhler described Kruger as "too inert and clumsy to command such a first-class formation as an SS division" (telegram dated 20.08.1943/19/30, time - 20:8, VA-MA, RH 95-728/XNUMX, appendix XNUMX). Wöhler's report remained without consequences, and Kruger retained his post, and eleven days later he was even awarded the oak leaves to the Knight's Cross. The Reich division distinguished itself in the battles for Kharkov and was honored with a mention in the Wehrmacht summary of 27.08.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX.

According to the memoirs of an officer of the headquarters of the SS division "Reich", the cause of the conflict between Generals Wöhler and Kruger was "the constant pulling apart of units of our division to plug holes in critical sectors of the front." Krueger vigorously protested against this. Wöhler, on the other hand, pointed to “an unusually difficult situation on the front of the Army Group, which does not allow waging war by classical methods and forces improvisation. The commanders of units that remain combat-ready must unquestioningly bear the brunt of defensive battles. (Rolf Dirk. Memoirs, Munich, 2009.). Brigadeführer Krueger in his telegrams to Himmler dated 20.08.43/22.08.43/XNUMX and XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX protested against the separation of the division in parts (VA-MA, M841).

Two other SS divisions, subordinate to General Wöhler, also proved themselves excellently in the final phase of the Battle of Kursk and played a decisive role in it. In mid-August, the "Dead Head" division achieved such success in the counteroffensive near Kharkov that, according to the recommendation of the commander of the III. General Hermann Breit was mentioned in the Wehrmacht summary of 18.08.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX (representation of the commander of III vol. to the command of the GA "South" - a telegram dated 17.08.1943, VA-MA, RH 20-8 / 95, appendix 702).

Within a few days, General Wöhler twice expressed gratitude to the SS divisions: on August 17 and 20, the Totenkopf division and on 20.08. - Viking Division. There is an interesting piece of evidence from early November 1943 that sheds light on the prejudices about the bad command of the SS troops. In the "Assessment of the combat value of divisions III since." Viking says:

“The division showed itself well in heavy defensive battles and in the offensive. She has 2,5 years of experience on the Eastern Front and demonstrates outstanding tenacity in battle. After suffering heavy losses, she owes her success to the few experienced officers and non-commissioned officers remaining in the ranks. The command is distinguished by energy and resourcefulness, but its unauthorized actions, not coordinated with its neighbors, are a big problem.

(“Assessment of the combat value of divisions III since”, 2.11.1943/20/8 signed by the acting corps commander General Ziegler, VA-MA, RH 89-XNUMX / XNUMX).

Even with a shortage of command personnel, a military unit can fight well. It's not about quantity, it's about quality. Apparently, in the summer of 1943, everything was in order in the SS panzer-grenadier divisions both with equipment and with commanders. That is why the SS tank formations were sent to the most critical sectors of the front. In the work of the American historian George Stein (George Stein) "History of the Waffen-SS", written back in the 60s, but retaining its value to this day, it says:

"SS Panzer divisions went where, in Hitler's opinion, it was most dangerous."

Stein's words refer to the Leibstandarte, Reich, Totenkopf, Viking, Hohenstaufen, Frundsberg, and Hitler Youth divisions. These seven formations at the end of 1943 were renamed from panzer-grenadier to tank. Stein calls them "elite". But can they really be considered an elite?

The very term "military elite" has recently been criticized, especially in relation to the SS troops. Indeed, the SS troops were very heterogeneous, all in a total of 38 SS divisions differed greatly in their quality. And, of course, not all of them deserve high marks. In general, it is doubtful that the concept of "elite troops" can be attributed to large military formations, and this term itself can be used in a scientific assessment of their military effectiveness.

Nevertheless, such a rather historical concept as "elite troops" exists. In German documents, this is the name given to especially combat-ready formations of the enemy. For example, in the reports of 1941, the Greek troops are called so, and in 1944 - the British paratroopers who landed in Arnhem. Hitler used the term in March 1943 when referring to two German airborne divisions.

And in military-historical research, "elite" refers to especially combat-ready, highly motivated, successful and well-armed military formations. In this context, the SS divisions that fought at Kursk fully deserve the designation "elite". The enemy also assessed them in the same way: in Soviet documents, the divisions "Leibstandarte", "Reich", "Dead Head" and "Great Germany" are called "selected" (“Report on the combat operations of the 5th Guards Tank Army for the period 7.07–24.07.43.” p. 3, “Report on the combat operations of the 29th Tank Corps for the period 7.07–24.07.43”, p. 14, TsAMO, Podolsk In the first of the reports, the division "VG" was mistakenly called the "SS division").

Conclusion


In principle, it is difficult to compare the combat effectiveness of military formations in battle. The situation, terrain conditions, weather, the availability of air support, the number and morale of the personnel, as well as the strength of the enemy, always play a big role. It is almost impossible to take into account all these factors. Therefore, there are always many questions. Nevertheless, some conclusions can be drawn from the summer battles of 1943 on the Eastern Front:

1) SS divisions did not suffer unjustified losses, which also refutes accusations of poor command quality;

2) SS divisions performed well in the battles near Kursk;

3) divisions II because The SS were better than other formations provided with personnel and weapons.

However, for the servicemen of these formations, such a “privileged position” meant one thing - they would fight on the most critical sectors of the front. This affected their self-esteem. One of the veterans of the Totenkopf Division, who joined the SS in 1942 and fought on the Eastern Front until the very end of the war, in an interview, answering the question whether they considered themselves a "military elite", said this:

“We didn’t consider ourselves an elite, but we were made one.”

And in the battles of the summer of 1943 on the Eastern Front, this was completely true.
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  1. +3
    25 May 2022 04: 17
    Heh heh ... smile you see, the generals are to blame for the high losses in the SS units in the Battle of Kursk ... but in my opinion, it’s just that the command of the Red Army by 1943 learned to competently fight such an enemy ... plus the motivation of our soldiers and officers to destroy the Wehrmacht military machine increased significantly.
    The SS men were well beaten in the Demyansk cauldron ... it's a pity they didn't finish off everyone then ... so our ancestors naturally beat the SS upstarts.
    In some ways, this story with the Nazis is being repeated even now ... in Ukraine.
    1. +9
      25 May 2022 06: 36
      The SS men were well beaten in the Demyansk cauldron ... it's a pity they didn't finish off everyone then ... so our ancestors naturally beat the SS upstarts.
      In some ways, this story with the Nazis is being repeated even now ... in Ukraine.

      We were unable to eliminate the boiler near Demyansk due to the fact that the Germans had established an air corridor to supply troops, but near Stalingrad they were not allowed to do this by our aviation and tank raids on airfields. We already had aviation superiority there. The Germans fought well only with the support of their aircraft. The article mentions the total number of aircraft, 5000, but ... our aircraft were slightly less than 4, of which 000 fighters, and the Luftwaffe had only 1700 fighters. There is no need to talk about any significant support for the ground forces. Therefore, our Il-394 attack aircraft were comfortable enough to work on tanks and other equipment. For some reason, this reason for our Victory in the Battle of Kursk is often hushed up, and the skill of the commanders is extolled, and they were a little silent about this fact ... The glory of our industry that it was able to defeat the German tanks, planes, guns. And no SS could influence the course of the battle. The verdict was signed.
      So it is with Ukraine, I am sure of the Victory for precisely the same reason.
      1. +10
        25 May 2022 07: 37
        Quote: Konnick
        The Germans fought well only with the support of their aircraft. The article mentions the total number of aircraft, 5000, but ... our aircraft were slightly less than 4, of which 000 fighters, and the Luftwaffe had only 1700 fighters

        Many sources say that at the beginning of the Battle of Kursk, the Germans had air supremacy, and during the fighting it passed to the Red Army Air Force. How? Why? The maximum of what is in Russian-language sources is a reference to the heroic efforts of Soviet pilots. Of course, there were heroic efforts, but they were made from the very beginning of the war, and the results, let's say, left much to be desired. And suddenly, near Kursk, for no reason at all, everything turned upside down.
        In English-language sources, it is also deaf. This is understandable, for them Kursk, like everything that happened on the Eastern Front, was local battles, and the main events of the war at that time were the preparation for the landing in Sicily and the landing itself. Of course, if we compare how many people and equipment participated in the battles in the East and West, then the position of English-speaking historians becomes, well, let's say, doubtful, but God bless them, they are paid for publications in the West, and whoever pays the money orders the music.
        But what happened in the week since 1943-06-24 is the massive bombing of Hamburg by Allied aircraft.
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Бомбардировка_Гамбурга
        And if you are interested and not too lazy to translate, then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Hamburg_in_World_War_II is much more detailed.
        A fiery tornado, unprecedented destruction, tens of thousands, mostly civilians, died. Several factories that produced military products, shipyards, submarine parking were destroyed to the heap, in general, enough to justify the raids from a military point of view. Although if Germany won, then these bombings could well be adjusted to war crimes. But history is written by the victors, and the vanquished are judged for war crimes.
        Accordingly, Hitler's reaction was not long in coming, and Goering naturally fell under the distribution, at one time he promised that not a single bomb would fall on the Reich. Well, as a result, the fighters were withdrawn en masse from the fronts, especially the Eastern one, where there were most of them at that time, and were redirected to protect Germany itself from bombing. There are few left at the front, and not the best.
        And without fighter cover, the same "Stuka" Yu-87, a kind of high-precision weapon of that time, capable of dropping a bomb at a target like "tank" or "artillery position" from a dive under the howl of a siren, turned from the horror of ground troops into a laughingstock on which experienced pilots of the Red Army, as if on benefits, taught newcomers how to shoot down. And other bombers have become much more likely to fall under the distribution.
        But for some reason, these two events, the bombing of Hamburg and the conquest of air supremacy by the Red Army Air Force during the Battle of Kursk, are nowhere compared. And it seems to be asking.
        1. +6
          25 May 2022 07: 49
          for some reason, these two events, the bombing of Hamburg and the conquest of air supremacy by the Red Army Air Force during the Battle of Kursk, are nowhere compared. And it seems to be asking.

          From a propaganda point of view, this is undesirable. So did Operation Bagration, when we had 16 times air superiority... due to Operation Overlord. But the vanity of some drawers of arrows on the maps did not allow an objective understanding of the reason for such a deafening defeat of the Wehrmacht in Belarus. Moreover, from the point of view of land generals on both sides.
          I also consider the reason for the defeat of Tukhachevsky near Warsaw to be the actions of the American and French squadrons that controlled any actions of the Red Army and stormed the marching formations, especially the cavalry, and near Lvov, the First Cavalry suffered significant losses precisely from aviation.
          1. +1
            25 May 2022 20: 38
            I also consider the reason for the defeat of Tukhachevsky near Warsaw to be the actions of the American and French squadrons that controlled any actions of the Red Army and stormed the marching formations, especially the cavalry, and near Lvov, the First Cavalry suffered significant losses precisely from aviation.
            Will there be links?
            1. 0
              25 May 2022 20: 43
              Will there be links?

              Not yet, I'm saving up material for an article.
              1. 0
                29 May 2022 12: 58
                So it's a lie...
                1. -1
                  29 May 2022 14: 12
                  So it's a lie...

                  more polite
                  https://topwar.ru/83359-amerikanskie-letchiki-v-sovetsko-polskoy-voyne.html
                  Not much here, but bite your tongue
                  1. +2
                    29 May 2022 18: 03
                    So these are soldiers of fortune, not
                    actions of American and French squadrons
                    . Sweet twist...
                2. -1
                  29 May 2022 17: 00
                  Quote: Konnick
                  Not yet, I'm saving up material for an article.

                  That is, the links will be in the article. And apparently a very interesting article. Accordingly, this is the answer
                  Quote: smaug78
                  So it's a lie...
                  It is vulgar causeless rudeness ... strong rudeness.
        2. +6
          25 May 2022 11: 41
          And without fighter cover, the same Stukas Yu-87, a kind of high-precision
          the weapon of that time, capable of dropping a bomb at a target such as a "tank" or an "artillery position" from a dive under the howl of a siren, turned from the horror of the ground troops into a laughingstock, on which experienced pilots of the Red Army, as on manuals, taught beginners how to shoot down. And other bombers have become much more likely to fall under the distribution.

          ,,, do not agree. Here is what I.A. Kuzmichev writes in a memorandum
          Report on shortcomings in the combat work of fighter aircraft of the 2 VA in the period 4-9.07-43.

          ,,Starting from 04.07.43/XNUMX/XNUMX, enemy aircraft massively and systematically delivered strikes on the front line of our ground forces in close cooperation with armored and mechanized troops.
          Our fighter aviation, which is fighting for the conquest of air supremacy, has not fulfilled its task.
          Having in the initial period a numerical superiority in fighters, we were unable to keep the initiative in the air in our hands. The enemy drove us out of his territory and transferred all air battles and battles to the territory of our troops. Although enemy aircraft suffered heavy losses, they carried out their tasks.


          "Conclusion: The fighter aircraft of the 2nd Air Army, having a quantitative and qualitative superiority in fighters over enemy fighters, due to poor control, poor work of headquarters and insufficient organization, could not gain dominance and superiority in the air, completely gave the initiative in the air into the hands of the enemy, did not deserve it with its work the love of our ground forces."
        3. +3
          25 May 2022 17: 37
          Can you tell me the list of fighter formations sent to defend "Vaterland" at the height of the Battle of Kursk?
    2. 0
      27 June 2022 14: 49
      Lech from Android. A cousin, a tanker, said that the army was well prepared. Everything worked according to plan. Sometimes it happened that some units retreated and when the Germans rushed forward, then our German tanks could hit the Germans from the sides. So pierced the large tanks of the Germans. Then it became impossible to lure them, they constantly "levelled" the front line to the Dnieper. They thought that the Dnieper would help, but it did not help, and the Germans rolled. The Germans abandoned equipment. It was easy to throw a car off the road, and several tanks had to be bypassed on the roads, and the autumn rains made it difficult.
  2. -1
    25 May 2022 04: 52
    Quote: Author
    ...when the Red Army liberated Kharkov.

    Good review, the author worked on the documents.
    And we will again have to clear Kharkov of the ukrovermacht.
    1. +1
      25 May 2022 05: 21
      Quote: Gunter
      we will again have to clear Kharkov of ukrovermacht

      Ukp is a diagnosis.
      Georgian is a profession.
      Jew is a calling.
      Russian is destiny.
    2. +4
      25 May 2022 09: 10
      I agree, a lot of work has been done.
      One note: although most readers have an idea about the Kursk Bulge in their heads, they could have attached at least one map. For those who may not be very up to date .
  3. +2
    25 May 2022 05: 17
    Among the Germans, an opinion was soon formed about excessive losses in the SS troops, which scared away many potential volunteers. In the eyes of the professional military, this was also not a "compliment": you need to inflict high losses on the enemy at the cost of your own minimum.

    As US General Patton said, "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making some other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
    1. +10
      25 May 2022 06: 05
      I still decided to insert the translation:
      No killer has ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making another poor stupid bastard die for his country.
      1. +7
        25 May 2022 13: 09
        "If you kill an enemy who shoots at you, it's not in vain! You don't defend your homeland in vain!"
        senior lieutenant Orlov
        "The battalions are asking for fire"
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  4. +3
    25 May 2022 06: 04
    A lot of work has been put into this article. And such documents still need to be found. On the other hand, looking at the history of the Second World War, for us it should not grow and overgrow with weeds of dry statistics about who Hitler supplied better there - the Wehrmacht or the SS. Dying a Red Army soldier near Kursk did not think about who killed him - the Wehrmacht or the SS. Like a Red Army tanker, putting a shell into a German tank, he didn’t think whose tank he knocked out - the Wehrmacht or the SS.
    What can the abundance of such translations from German lead to? First, innocent articles about the statistics of the difference between the supply of the Wehrmacht and the SS, then already translated from the German article that it was not the Soviet soldier and the Soviet people who won, but General Frost and the American Lend-Lease. Then articles from German about how the Red Army allegedly raped all the Germans in Prussia, and the Germans in Berlin from starvation after the surrender of Germany were saved by the Americans, not the Russians ... There are the heirs and descendants of the unfinished in Germany, you know how many books and articles of this content were written ...
    Who might be interested in statistics, who is better equipped today - the Nazis from the Armed Forces of Ukraine or from "Azov"? Let's then also articles translated from Ukrainian, about the differences in the supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and "Azov" !!!...
    1. +1
      25 May 2022 07: 05
      Yes, articles on the supply of Vsu and Azov are needed, but only according to documents, there will be documents and articles, you can get useful experience from documentary materials.
      And from agitation, only once again go through the rake.
    2. +1
      27 May 2022 19: 40
      No, we don’t know, by the way, how much they wrote there (frost and lend-lease) in their decaying West. But this translation is better than 80% of the slag that is written here on the topic of the Second World War.
  5. +7
    25 May 2022 06: 18
    Commander II. because SS Paul Hausser, at the end of the offensive on Kursk, was awarded the Oak Leaves to the Knight's Cross at the suggestion of G. Goth.



    And he survived the war, and the entire post-war denazification, is it any wonder what is happening now ... request
  6. +8
    25 May 2022 06: 57
    This is what an article on military history should look like
  7. +14
    25 May 2022 07: 40
    The article is a pleasant surprise. Good in itself and all the more good in comparison with the opuses "How X did Y" from one local author
    1. +4
      25 May 2022 12: 49
      Quote: Engineer
      The article is a pleasant surprise. Good in itself and all the more good in comparison with the opuses "How X did Y" from one local author

      Duck Roman Teppel is a well-known German historian hi
      1. +5
        25 May 2022 13: 03
        It's a pity it doesn't work on VO laughing
    2. 0
      25 May 2022 22: 31
      Quote: Engineer
      The article is a pleasant surprise. Good in itself and all the more good in comparison with the opuses "How X did Y" from one local author

      What's the opus?
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  9. +5
    25 May 2022 08: 43
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Heh heh ... smile you see, the generals are to blame for the high losses in the SS units in the Battle of Kursk ... but in my opinion, it’s just that the command of the Red Army by 1943 learned to competently fight such an enemy ... plus the motivation of our soldiers and officers to destroy the Wehrmacht military machine increased significantly.
    The SS men were well beaten in the Demyansk cauldron ... it's a pity they didn't finish off everyone then ... so our ancestors naturally beat the SS upstarts.
    In some ways, this story with the Nazis is being repeated even now ... in Ukraine.

    Well, I wouldn’t be so categorical, in 43, and even at the beginning of 44, our commanders often made mistakes, an example of this was the winter-spring 43-44 fighting against the Army Group Center .. The Battle of Kursk undoubtedly became a very good school.
    1. +4
      25 May 2022 10: 11
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      Well, I wouldn’t be so categorical, in 43, and even at the beginning of 44, our commanders often made mistakes

      I agree, only from about the age of 44 did our command reach the desired level. The Battle of Kursk itself just demonstrated that the level of control we have is still quite low. If Rokosovsky coped with the task of holding the Germans (albeit having a stronger group than Vatutin), then Vatutin himself showed himself frankly weak, which is confirmed by a very quick breakthrough of almost all defense lines and very high losses. And the counterattack near Prokhorovka, first of all, needs to be studied as an example of absolute illiteracy.
      1. 0
        25 May 2022 10: 21
        Disagree on some points.
        The headquarters believed that the main blow or blow with stronger forces would be just against Rokossovsky’s troops, but they made a mistake and the strongest blow fell on Vatutin’s troops, and in connection with this, Rokossovsky’s troops were more saturated with artillery and the width of the offensive lane of German tanks was already.
        Regarding Prokhorovka, the very idea of ​​​​the counteroffensive was good there, BUT, it was planned from the lines that were in fact occupied by German troops and, accordingly, in fact it did not correspond to the plan, but a lot was written and said about the reasons for the heavy losses of Rotmistrov’s 5th tank army everything is already lined up.
        1. 0
          25 May 2022 10: 42
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          The headquarters believed that the main blow or blow with stronger forces would be just against Rokossovsky’s troops, but they made a mistake and the strongest blow fell on Vatutin’s troops, and in connection with this, Rokossovsky’s troops were more saturated with artillery and the width of the offensive lane of German tanks was already.

          I agree, for brevity I did not write.
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          Regarding Prokhorovka, the very idea of ​​​​the counteroffensive was good there, BUT, it was planned from the lines that were in fact occupied by German troops and, accordingly, in fact it did not correspond to the plan, but a lot was written and said about the reasons for the heavy losses of Rotmistrov’s 5th tank army everything is already lined up.

          That's right, but no one cancels the frank stupidity of the command to launch an offensive without reconnaissance, from an unprepared line, and even in such an unfavorable direction. This just confirms that the level of command was still weak. Yes, and Vatutin acted frankly weakly. As an example, the frontal attacks of TA Katukov, which stopped only after the intervention of Stalin. And almost all anti-tank artillery was not involved. It took the Germans a day to break through the first strongest line of defense and two more to reach the lines of the third, almost rear. I think that Vatutin's actions should also be considered, first of all, as a negative example of command.
          1. +1
            25 May 2022 10: 48
            Did you read or watch Zamulin right on Prokhorovka?
            1. +2
              25 May 2022 11: 12
              No, I rely more on Isaev. Although what difference does it make who writes what. In fact, on the southern front, our anti-tank artillery was used to a minimum, and in fact, Vatutin was constantly patching up holes, throwing everything at hand to eliminate breakthroughs, and at the same time not correctly informing the Headquarters.
              1. +2
                25 May 2022 11: 25
                There is a difference, Zamulin practically painted the entire course of the Prokhorov battle for a minute, very very interesting and exclusively on our and German documents
                1. +1
                  25 May 2022 11: 34
                  Quote: Andrey VOV
                  There is a difference, Zamulin practically painted the entire course of the Prokhorov battle for a minute, very very interesting and exclusively on our and German documents

                  I'll definitely check it out. But again, everything can be explained, justified, but if we ignore everything and look only at the facts, then I personally see that Vatutin frankly failed his sector during the Battle of Kursk. For which we paid with a huge number of losses. Again, unfortunately, they learned from their own experience, there is no other way. The question was the survival of us as a people.
                  1. +3
                    25 May 2022 11: 37
                    Alas, a fact that does not require proof, we studied from the age of 41 bloody and scary .. as a result, the Red Knowing over the Reichstag.
          2. 0
            27 May 2022 19: 48
            I always thought that Katukov was the inventor of tank ambushes. Not Stalin...
            1. 0
              29 May 2022 11: 51
              Quote: Mike_E
              I always thought that Katukov was the inventor of tank ambushes. Not Stalin...

              Who the inventor is is not known for certain. The fact that Katukov proposed and applied it on the Kursk Bulge is a fact beyond doubt. Katukov turned to Stalin with a complaint about Vatutin, who was driving tanks to slaughter, and Stalin already gave an order to Vatutin. Katukov could not jump Vatutin in rank.
              1. 0
                29 May 2022 20: 19
                But he jumped...
                1. 0
                  29 May 2022 22: 29
                  Quote: Mike_E
                  But he jumped...

                  He had the courage, for which he bowed low for thousands of saved lives of soldiers.
          3. DJ
            0
            27 May 2022 22: 18
            Vatutin's actions should be considered as an example of a successful defense with less means than Rokossovsky and with more tank-accessible terrain. It is necessary to be able to successfully restrain a more powerful grouping of Germans at the expense of the forces of the front.
            1. 0
              29 May 2022 10: 17
              Quote from DJ
              Vatutin's actions should be considered as an example of a successful defense with less means than Rokossovsky and with more tank-accessible terrain. It is necessary to be able to successfully restrain a more powerful grouping of Germans at the expense of the forces of the front.

              Do not use the PTA at the front, allow the breakthrough of three lines of defense within a couple of days, destroy your own TA near Prokhorovka, and much more, including attempts to throw Katukov's TA for slaughter. If this is a competent defense, then name what an illiterate one is.
        2. 0
          26 May 2022 17: 31
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          Rokossovsky's troops were more saturated with artillery and he already had the width of the offensive zone of German tanks.

          Rokossovsky managed to determine the direction of the German strikes and, unlike Vatutin, risked concentrating denser defenses in dangerous directions, exposing areas that were inconvenient for the offensive. Vatutin did not risk it and his defense was more even. In addition, Rokossovsky did not allow the enemy to break his first line in the first days by reacting faster and reinforcing the fighting waxes with tank counterattacks. Chistyakov's army in the south was defeated in 2 days. The tank units of Rokossovsky suffered heavy losses from the first day, but prevented the Germans from destroying the infantry units. It was Rokossovsky who insisted on the decision to wear down the Germans on the defensive and only after losses in German mobile units and the loss of German aviation activity, launch a counteroffensive.
          1. 0
            26 May 2022 21: 30
            That's right, But, once again, Rokossovsky had more artillery, more, which allowed him to successfully stop the advance of the German troops
  10. +2
    25 May 2022 10: 48
    "... Commander II. because SS Paul Hausser, at the end of the offensive on Kursk, was awarded oak leaves to the Knight's Cross at the suggestion of G. Goth ...."
    this is a delayed reward after the Kharkiv operation in February. They didn’t give it right away, because withdrew troops from the city, avoiding encirclement. He disobeyed the Fuhrer, and he delayed the award.
  11. +5
    25 May 2022 15: 40
    As an example of illiterate leadership at the regimental level, we can cite the actions of the tank regiment "VG" and the 39th tank regiment under the command of Colonel Count Hyacinth von Strachwitz during the "Citadel". He threw the tanks of both regiments into frontal attacks, not paying attention to losses. His immediate superior, the commander of the 10th Tank Brigade, Karl Decker, in his report dated 17.07.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX, did not find other words to describe Strachwitz's actions, except for "madness" and "stupidity"

    Mwa-ha-ha-ha... oh, that is meow. smile
    Dekker's accusations against Strachwitz are about as if Voroshilov blamed Zhukov for the retreat of the SZN troops to Leningrad. smile
    It was Dekker who, until the middle of the day on 06.07.1943/10/39, commanded the XNUMXth brigade, which united the XNUMXth TP and TP "VG".
    And until that moment, Strachwitz had not commanded the Panthers of the 39th TP at all. He commanded a tank regiment "VG". The commander of the 39th TP was Major Laukert.
    And it was Dekker who, in the early morning of July 6, 1943, lost control of the 39th TP, as a result of which, without the support of infantry with bare tanks, he went forward and knocked on our defenses, raking from minefields, the 27th Iptabr and heavy artillery of the 6th Army .
    Strachwitz (who had no connection with the brigade either) at the same time acted according to plan and was much more successful - together with the 11th TD, he broke through the defenses of the 67th SD, but got stuck in minefields covered by the fire of Ipt and tanks.
    And only in the middle of the day on 06.07.1943/39/52 Dekker was called to the division headquarters, and the command of the brigade passed to Strachwitz. But at that time it was already too late to save the XNUMXth TP - there was no communication with the regiment, the commander of the XNUMXnd TBN, who was walking ahead, Major Tebbe, panicked and fell into a stupor, and Oberleutnant Erdmann Gabriel, who replaced him, soon lost the tank (breaking through the armor, detonating the BC) .

    Source: Alexander Tomzov / Andrey Ulanov. Debut "Panther". Warspot.
    1. +1
      25 May 2022 20: 45


      "... The brigade headquarters only left Berlin on July 3.07.43, 11.07 and arrived at the front on July 1.07. Therefore, an impromptu headquarters was created for Colonel Decker, who arrived in the troops on July 6. And this is half the trouble, but he had a personal conflict with Colonel Strachwitz, commander of a tank Regiment "VG", subordinate for the duration of the operation "Citadel" Deker's brigade. Strachwitz, known for his courage, was offended by this. ... Decker from the very beginning was in a state of conflict with Strachwitz, who acted without permission and complained to the higher leadership about Deker's indecision. Commander XXXXVIII because General Otto von Knobelsdorff sided with Strachwitz and on July XNUMX removed Decker from command of the brigade and handed it over to Strachwitz. The latter, having received the Panthers at his disposal, used them in his own style - with tragic consequences for their crews ..."
      R. Toeppel "Battle of Kursk - myths and reality".

      1. 0
        26 May 2022 12: 22
        Quote: Slug_BDMP
        From the very beginning, Decker found himself in conflict with Strachwitz, who acted arbitrarily and complained to higher management about Deker's indecision. Commander XXXXVIII, because General Otto von Knobelsdorff sided with Strachwitz and on July 6 removed Decker from command of the brigade and handed it over to Strachwitz. The latter, having received the Panthers at his disposal, used them in his own style - with tragic consequences for them crews...

        Exactly - Dekker was removed from command in the afternoon July 6th At this point, the 39th TP was already bogged down in minefields and was being shot by our artillery. For Dekker lost control of his regiments on the morning of July 6th.
        In the book of negotiations of the headquarters of the 48th shopping mall after mentioning that at about 05:00 “Panthers” are near Yarki farm, only complaints about the lack of communication follow. Could not establish contact with the "headquarters" of Decker and formally subordinate to him von Strachwitz. In fact, the connection with the 39th Tank Regiment disappeared and did not restore until the afternoon - all this time the Panthers, in the best traditions of the Kipling cat, “walked on their own”.
        © Alexander Tomzov / Andrey Ulanov. Debut "Panther". Warspot.
        And it is Dekker, who commanded the brigade in the first half of the day, who is responsible for what follows:
        Von Laukert's "Panthers" got lost, moving forward through unfamiliar terrain with no landmarks. The regiment was deployed in a double column, with the exception of the leading company, which was moving in a wedge formation. Since the Panthers were going without infantry, they did not notice any signs of the enemy until, two kilometers east of Cherkasskoye, they drove straight into a minefield. How many tanks were instantly immobilized. The leading battalion of Major Gerhard Tebbe stood in the affected area, and the Soviet artillery began shelling the trapped German unit.
        © Robert Forczyk
        Strachwitz, at that time, successfully commanded his regiment:
        While deprived of even the semblance of a Panther command, they tried to get out of the shelling, von Strachwitz's tank regiment at first acted more successfully - his regiment, together with units of the 11th TD, managed to break through the defense line of the 67th division. The very units that only last night left the battle, having lost two-thirds of the composition. True, he did not succeed in a quick breakthrough in depth either - the road to Dubrovo was covered by the 245th detachment, the 1440th sap and the 1837th iptap.
        © Alexander Tomzov / Andrey Ulanov. Debut "Panther". Warspot.
        And only in the middle of the day, Dekker was removed from command of the brigade, and Strachwitz formally took command of the 39th TP.
        At about 12:30, the VG regiment went to the anti-tank ditch in front of Hill 241,1, however, having run into all the same minefields and artillery fire, it rolled back. Apparently, by this moment the patience of the command of the 48th TC was finally exhausted - the commander of the 10th brigade, Dekker, was called to the corps headquarters, and the leadership of the brigade passed to von Strachwitz. But for the Panthers, this belated change of horses at the crossing did not solve anything - the number of combat-ready tanks on the 39th continued to decline, by the evening of July 6, there were about 40 of them left in the ranks, and by the evening of July 7 - only 10.

        © Alexander Tomzov / Andrey Ulanov. Debut "Panther". Warspot.

        And I still don’t remember about the march and battles of the 39th TP on July 5, when from 184 combat-ready Panthers remained from 60 to 80 in a day. Strachwitz has nothing to do with it at all. smile
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  12. +1
    25 May 2022 16: 19
    Author!
    I read your analysis, with PLEASURE !!!
  13. 0
    25 May 2022 17: 36
    505th heavy tank battalion
    and what does he have to do with it? Not like SS...
    1. +1
      25 May 2022 20: 52
      The author gives examples of "mess" both in the Wehrmacht and in the SS.
      1. 0
        25 May 2022 23: 45
        But our historians consider the actions of the enemy, especially at the beginning of the battle, to be well organized, the interaction between the units, aviation-artillery-infantry, at a high level. It is especially worth noting the action of the tank units. "won." And the actions of the tank units were "the best" for the entire time of the war. And the losses, thanks to the courage of the Red Army, were significant. The Germans could not create at least close, such motivated and well-equipped units. world
  14. +2
    25 May 2022 20: 20
    The low tabular losses of the Germans in tanks following the results of the Battle of Kursk are so insignificant because they reflected only irrevocable. And everything that was pulled off to repair points and even sent to Germany was not considered a loss. Of greater importance is how many combat-ready vehicles you can put up right now, how many in 2-3 days, and how many in a month. This is not reflected in any way.
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      25 May 2022 23: 35
      The article is "raw", there are a lot of "trifles" that the author did not consider. Namely, the very concept of the "SS" elite is built on them. The losses themselves cannot be based on the analysis based only on the German side. Why are the data of the Red Army not given., about the actions of the enemy and his losses. Further, the losses themselves The Germans included in the losses, also wounded. , since one battalion carried out the security function of the Reich Chancellery. The "Dead Head" division was not a tank division, but was motorized, and therefore the staff was different. If you are analyzing the largest battle, where exactly the "SS" ceased to be an elite and switched to assault units, and it's a completely different composition.
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        26 May 2022 21: 00
        in terms of losses in manpower, it should also be taken into account that a division is not only a combat personnel directly involved in hostilities, but also various support services. All sorts of drivers, cooks, clerks, etc. In battle, mainly combat personnel are knocked out and, as a result, in the division as a whole, there can be a decent number of people, and at the same time, there is a clear shortage of active bayonets in the line units.
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    26 May 2022 15: 33
    According to K. Elshby, the 2nd SS Panzer Corps, commanded by Hauser (Group South), only had 200 self-propelled guns, and 350 tanks in the front line. Or did not understand the table or something is not right. In addition, 2700 -2434 = 266 and about the tanks "disappeared", if you look at the table of equipment of the "Center" group of Kluge and the "South" of Manstein.
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    5 June 2022 20: 33
    I would just stick with this analysis, which is perfect. And then, friends, your grandfathers cursed everyone. it doesn’t sound like it here, but the units of the Red Army fought well and their commanders were very good. am
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    3 July 2022 18: 07
    Only 58 posts, this is really not enough. Friends, do not try to prove your professional genius. I know only one thing, that the Russian Red Army did not lose its great battle, and this is the main thing. These are the main tasks. Don't be afraid to express your thoughts in simple words am