Spy scandal with Russians in America: episode of the new “cold war”?

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In the USA, eight citizens were arrested, about which the local press writes about them as “Russian spies”. However, that writes this very press - later.

The US Department of Justice has published scant information about eight “spies” detained by the gallant EFB officers. The main suspect is Comrade Alexander Fischenko, a man with a Russian passport. By the way, he is the only one of those arrested who is “documentary” connected with Russia.

In addition to Fishchenko - the founder and co-owner of the Texas company Arc Electronics - the FBI delayed and employees of this company: Shavkata Abdullayeva, Lyudmila Bagdikyan, Anastasia Dyatlova, Svetalina Zagon, Victoria Klebanova, Alexander Posobilova and Sevinj Tagiyeva. Alexander Fishchenko, Alexander Obosobilov and Victoria Klebanova are naturalized citizens of the United States. Their head, Fischenko, is a native of Kazakhstan, and in front of Usubilov, he had an Azerbaijani passport. For Americans, all these comrades are Russians. And once the Russians, then the American probability that they spied on Russia, dragging down the military-industrial-electronic-traffic-light secrets of the advanced US, is close to 99,99%.

In general, the FBI expects to hold 11 people. The accusations in the "spy" case brought by the US authorities against three more people - also, of course, Russian. Sergey Klinov and Dmitry Shegurov from the Apex System company and Yury Savin from the Atrilor company appear as suspects. The hands of EFBA members did not reach out to these people simply because the named firms work in Moscow.

They are blaming "Russian spies" for illegally taking microelectronics products from the USA to Russia, which allegedly are extremely interested in: 1) dark Russian military; 2) even darker secret services; 3) are very dark engineers and electronics engineers who are increasingly drinking vodka, eating it with pickles and tomatoes, rather than developing chips, chips, processors, eavesdropping and prying devices. What can I say about the dense Russia, if even the police DVRs are there, it’s worth only a priest to look at them, are they devouring viruses?

And eight, and eleven people America was not enough. The US Department of Commerce, not only with the filing of the FBI, is going to put under control neither more nor less, and the activities of 165 people and companies. In America, they can do this, yes. With their laws, they don’t need a reason, a hint of reason is enough. Only the "Patriot Act of the USA" from 2001, which is worth. This law provides a variety of government agents to exercise the widest range of powers: watch over bad citizens and non-citizens at the same time, get access to their personal records, monitor financial transactions, block accounts, get into the files with educational, medical, and any information you like, listen to phone conversations and read emails and Skype messages (which Microsoft has bought for a long time and with giblets). Demonstrators of any kind, from pacifists to defenders of ecology and animals, can get to the terrorists according to this act. Of course, the law will not touch the advocates of the rights of the Pekingese and parrots to the extent that it can affect those unworthy people whom the government has chosen to mark as terrorists or enemies of the state. Everything is there, there is no salvation. 10-20 years in prison is at best, and the Ministry of Justice can also prescribe a half century jail. So much, even Edmon Dantès (the future graph of Monte Cristo) cannot sit out. And the abbots of Faria are not found in American prisons.

And here is another legislative document - the authorizing act on national defense. This fresher, from 2011 year. He transfers all sorts of anti-state affairs in capable hands, for example, representatives of the army or special services, and allows you to completely remove the legal procedure from the case. What does it mean? And the fact that this law allows indefinitely to keep in custody any person, including an American citizen (especially if he has a Russian name, which itself smacks of terrorism and espionage, in general, a threat to the state). To imprison a person, according to this law, all that is needed is the approval of the American government that these and those comrades are terrorists. Desirable Russians. This adjective automatically makes a person guilty. “How - innocent? He is Russian. ” And in Russian, the default 64 tooth is in the mouth, and all are ground with a file.

Now the american authorities declarethat microelectronic equipment, in export of which Fischenko and K are suspected, can be used for military needs, for example, in radar systems in surveillance systems, guidance systems and fuses.

That's what it is said in a document on the FBI website: “The prosecution claims that from October 2008 of the year until the arrest, Fischenko and his associates received the latest developments from leading American suppliers of microelectronics and illegally supplied them to Russia. Among these developments are microcontrollers, microprocessors and RAM chips. They are regularly used in military systems. Many of these parts are not produced in the domestic market of Russia. ”

True, these "latest developments", that is, adapters from analog format to digital, memory disks and microcontrollers, are sold, as they say, at every corner. But the FBI believes that there are no such “corners” in Russia.

And if such a thing, then Comrade Fischenko could face seventy-five years in prison. His firm, "Arc Electronics", supplies components for traffic lights. But efbeerovtsy and there are not blundered: they said that the company - just a sign, cover, a legend to the scout.

And the aforementioned comrade Fischenko is so good at secret export business that he contrived illegally in 10 years put to Russia high-tech equipment, which, of course, will be used in this aggressive and dark country solely for military purposes (there are no other goals) for 50 million dollars. And in order to work easier, the Moscow company Apex System was involved in the scheme. Agents claim that the site of this company even had pictures of aircraft carriers and rockets - and now they have been removed so as not to embarrass the American democratic public, which in the face of the FBI agents in each photo sees the intrigues of Moscow communist agents planning to attack the state of New York the other day , drove there on BMP transit through the city of Houston, Texas.

How did the American agents find the site of a Russian company when they figure out the wild Cyrillic? It turns out that a letter to our “spies”, not from somewhere, but directly from the headquarters of the FSB, came into their hands - from nowhere. Russian efesbeshniki complained that here in the service, they say, the technique is out of order due to unreliable American chips and need new chips.

Well, the Americans could not get past such a clue. Both the chief and employees of Arc Electronics instantly changed the status of the suspects to the accused. With American laws, this is easy.

No, you do not think that the Americans opened a case just by looking at the aircraft carrier on the Russian site. On the "Military Review" are also a lot of different pictures (maybe they will get to us?)

The FBI presented yet another proof: that the bad Russians had long tried to hide the military mission of microelectronics. To get this proof, the agents, of course, used democratic American laws, giving them the right to enter into the life of the “objects” by the very least do not play about. In the dialogue between the two defendants, Posobilova and Savina, made public by the efbeerov staff, they did not like the fact that the first one warned the second that, they say, fishing vessels passed through certificates of use of electronics, and not those that could also be part of the anti-submarine defense. As if the Americans do not know that the Russians know how to fish with submarines! Especially good bite off the coast of California.

Journalists clarifythat, according to the prosecutor's office, the letter was from the 35533 military unit and was addressed to Arsenal, but Arsenal was connected with the companies of Comrade Fishchenko. From the prosecutors this letter is not reported. Not otherwise, efbeerovtsy firmly established among our ...

Dan Schiller from the Houston Chronicle newspaper (Houston, TX) right пишет about the "Russian military procurement network." He reports that the Russians have worked hard in the field of exporting microelectronics for the benefit of their people and to the detriment of the American people from the 2008 year - until their "train" was "derailed" by the brave US federal agents who found them, handcuffed and seized both their bank accounts and company accounts.

And here are familiar Russophobic notes from a US official. The head of the FBI’s Houston department, Stephen L. Morris, who, as it turns out, has been investigating the espionage case for two years, does not consider Russia to be a friend of America. He says: "These days, the ability of foreign countries to illegally acquire sensitive and complex American technologies represents a significant threat to the economic and national security of our country." And he adds: “While some countries are going to use our technologies for economic gain, many countries hostile to the United States are seeking to strengthen their defense capabilities and modernize their weapons systems at the expense of American taxpayers.”

As a result, Dan Schiller writes further, the participants in the case were charged with conspiring to illegally export technology, money laundering, and also obstructing the administration of justice.

Fishchenko is bad because he allegedly concealed something from the US authorities. According to the American authorities, he said that he did not serve in Russia in the army, but in fact he served, and not just in the construction battalion or engineer regiment, but in Soviet military intelligence in Berlin in 1980.

A certain Mr. Carson, who is referred to in the article by a journalist and who was previously listed at the customs, with pathos said: "Profits from the sale of these types of goods should never be higher than patriotism." Frost on the skin of these words.

And on the Houston Press blog. noted another American author is Richard Connelly, who cannot be reproached for the lack of artistic skills and lack of attention to details.

"Do you feel the refreshing breeze of the cold war nostalgically blew over Houston?" Where is Hemingway ...

This guy, without further ado, crammed about high-tech equipment destined for the "Russian military spy agency."

Richard Connelly points out that, in the opinion of the “feds” (agents of the FBI. - O. Ch.), Now the traffic light pretender Fishchenko may get 20 years in prison - for conspiracy to launder money, and another ten years - for working as an unregistered agent Russian government.

And here is what the US Attorney Loretta E. Lynch claims: “According to the indictment, the defendants entangled their activities with a complex web of lies in order to evade laws that protect our national security. The defendants tried to use the free market of America to steal American technology for the Russian government. But US law enforcement found a violation of the law and put an end to the network of the accused. ”

In the NPR blog, Cory Flintoff (Moscow correspondent) приводит the words of Stephen Blanc, an expert on Russia and a professor of national security at the Military College of the US Army, who says that what is applicable at traffic lights can also be used to control missiles and radar systems. After all, these are the so-called "dual use" technology. The Russian company, with which Fischenko cooperated, according to him, does business with the Russian military and special agencies. Also, Professor Blank believes that illegal efforts to obtain chip technologies from the United States are spreading more and more, and this has been the case for the last 12 years. In his opinion, this is an integral part of the policy of Russian President Vladimir Putin related to the program for the modernization of armaments.

Fishchenko, the author of the article reports, will be in prison for about twelve years. Meanwhile, relations between the United States and Russia are deteriorating. Russia expelled USAID, withdrew a license from Radio Liberty ...

CNN reporter Carol Kratti on a blog пишетthat Fishchenko and his people, according to the prosecutor’s office, were not engaged in illegal activities from the very beginning (2002), but only from 2008.

Molly-Hennessy Fisk and Richard Serranno from the Los Angeles Times tell About Comrade Posobilov, who was the first to appear before a federal court: there he was sitting in handcuffs, and still chained at the waist and in the ankles.

Judicial honors suitable for a Chicago gangster.

Journalists who are not inclined to trust the judicial and EFBER information interviewed local witnesses.

33-year-old Lance Carter, who works in an office across the street, said, looking with disbelief that this is all an episode for the movie, not real life.

25-year-old Dan Brown, an orthopedic trader, said: “It's crazy to think that there is some kind of espionage and treason, and that this is the most connected with Russia. None of us suspected. This is unnerving. ”

In the Washington Post with reference to the Associated Press is told that Fishchenko, a man born in the former Soviet republic of Kazakhstan and graduated from a technical institute in St. Petersburg before coming to America in 1994, has an American and Russian passport and has traveled abroad too often to do business. He made tens of millions of dollars on exports.

And after all, what a weighty argument Americans found: an analysis of the accounting documentation, the article says, revealed "a striking similarity between the fluctuations in the gross income of Arc and the defense expenditures of the Russian Federation over the past few years." Right and said in court documents.

Well, thank you, you are our sponsors. Interestingly, the decline in the US economy is not caused by the fact that Obama regularly drinks honey beer? ..

Yes, by the way, there is informationthat the “Russian spies” also tried to get data from nuclear-minded Americans about nuclear weapons, American policy towards Iran and for some reason collected information about CIA leaders and congressmen.

Eh, they didn’t dig there! .. They collected information about the CIA, and the FBI collected information about them.

The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs commented on the situation. Comrade Lavrov said: “I can say that we are trying to figure out what happened: is there really a Russian citizen among the arrested 13? The Americans told us that 10 of these 13 people are Americans, and the rest seems to be from the former Soviet Union. Information in detail, we do not have. Therefore, I do not consider it appropriate to comment on anything now. ” A Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov сказал: “As far as we know, the charges that were filed concern several citizens of the Russian Federation. These charges, according to the information that the American side transmitted to us, are criminal in nature; they do not concern any intelligence activity. ”

In parallel with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs expressed and a representative of the MiG corporation, which installs on its anti-ship missiles and MiG-35 fighters chips and microprocessors, almost completely identical to those developed in the USA: “We don’t steal anything from the USA, no stolen products and technologies on the MiG-35 not".

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
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  1. General_Nogay
    +23
    4 October 2012 14: 38
    There are so many pieces left for 100 Americans to catch and put in Russia for international terrorism. And not only in America they can sew things!
    1. Gorchakov
      +9
      4 October 2012 15: 12
      General_Nogay,
      I think that ours doesn’t need to sew anything ... It’s enough just to realize ... And the reasons, above the roof ....
      1. wax
        +4
        4 October 2012 17: 43
        Start with the ambassador. For starters, send for activities harmful to the Russian state, which is incompatible with the status of ambassador.
    2. Kaa
      +2
      4 October 2012 17: 57
      Quote: General_Nogay
      There are so many pieces left for 100 Americans to catch and put in Russia for international terrorism.

      100 amers? Shallow swim, take wider - "Since 1991, about $ 5 billion has been officially invested in Russian civil society from abroad, and the real amount cannot be determined," says Veronika Krasheninnikova, director general of the Institute for Foreign Policy Research and Initiatives. There are now 260000 NGOs in Russia, and only the National the US Democracy Support Fund directly finances thousands of our organizations. Recently, the circle of recipients of such aid is expanding, and it is received not so much by federal structures as by small organizations in the regions and the media. In Russia, a "pro-Washington lobby" has formed, she says, and it itself can funding all these organizations - the ban is useless here, but it is important to at least highlight those that are clearly involved in politics. "
      Even if we take 1 zi-chairman of each NGO, this new wave of migration is forming ... request
    3. jk_edesign
      +3
      4 October 2012 19: 15
      Yes, and you do not need to offend Amers very much, catch and also slap them for 70 years ... You can catch someone from USAID for example
      1. gfreid
        -1
        5 October 2012 06: 59
        100 Americans to be caught and imprisoned in Russia for international terrorism. and also for 70 years to slap ... Fantasy like in the tales of the 1001st night. Russia will not take ANYONE hostage! You might think of wives, mistresses, children of American, French, English, etc. presidents, prime ministers, ministers, governors, deputies, judges, etc. live, rush off, have fun, buy movable property, real estate, etc. in Russia? Is it the Russian bureaucracy that has been operating in Russia on a rotational basis for years? They live with their wives, mistresses and children in the West, they come to Russia to rule, and what they have lifted from their knees is taken out to their own children and offspring! They have a lot to lose. Remember what indescribable guevalt was raised by "comrades" from the Foreign Ministry under the direction of "comrade" Lavrov on the Magnitsky list? But the sanctions were imposed on officials not of the highest and not even the middle level, but of the 137th. If the Ministry of Foreign Affairs protects a business of such a low rank, then it is clear that NOBODY WILL risk the business of higher officials! WILL NOT GIVE!
        And to act according to the principle: I can frostbite my nose against evil? Not even funny. Plant human rights defenders? Has the Soviet experience taught anyone? They human rights activists are like eggs. The longer they cook, the steeper and stronger they become. Plant a couple of scientists? Has the experience of Game and Novoselov really taught anyone? So, after all, Petriks and the Gryzlovs will remain and, with the help of the perpetual motion machine, living water, philosopher's stone and gravitsapa, they will "Russia more" from their knees.
        Everybody snoops. Neither Russia nor America is an exception. But without emotion, I find out why lately Russian agent networks have been failing, I think it is necessary.
    4. +7
      4 October 2012 21: 09
      Americans with Russian citizenship? And I don’t understand at all, why is there a scream? SVR carries out its work, which consists in recruiting agents, acquiring technologies, etc. If SVR officers do not do all this, then for what will they get paid? On the other hand, to expect that counterintelligence of other countries will not work against the SVR, these are some kind of kindergarten expectations.
      1. Beck
        0
        5 October 2012 13: 53
        Correctly. What's that noise? Of course it is necessary to complain. After all, its scouts. As lamented Sorge, Abel. And why the calls to seize from the streets of Moscow the first 100 amers that came across and punish them in revenge, and this is without reason or justification.

        SRV at the end of 80 at the beginning of 90 was expanse expanse on the implementation of its agents in the West. The mass departure of Soviet citizens, dissatisfied with the communist government, created the most favorable conditions for this. So the agents introduced in those years got accustomed, rooted and began their work. That work for which it was intended.

        American counterintelligence, to our chagrin, Dosad, and not the hysteria heard here, worked as expected. But if you tell the truth belatedly. After all, Russian intelligence agents were able to transfer part of the collected material to Russia.

        The FBI did not act from scratch. This morning, RBC television showed documents exposing the actions of Vietnam. The documents of the recipient of the extracted materials in Russia were shown. This is a certain Russian company. And documents were shown that under the guise of the company was a secret military unit, with the number of such and such, the FSB of Russia.

        It is unquestionably necessary to complain about failure, but do not inflate hysteria.

        In addition, it will be difficult for Lavrov to defend Russian scouts. Because legalizing 8 out of 11 intelligence agents received American citizenship. Now they are completely under the jurisdiction of the United States for spying American citizens in favor of a foreign state.
  2. kav8206
    +2
    4 October 2012 14: 48
    Our counterintelligence unfortunately collapsed ... ((
  3. Gorchakov
    +10
    4 October 2012 14: 51
    I think the time has come to thin out Russia from the CIA, FBI, Mossad and MI5 lice ... Maybe then these bastards will not do PR from scratch ... Yes. It seems to me that the time for these actions has come ... The country is itching from the itching of these special services lice ....
    1. orfo
      +1
      4 October 2012 16: 18
      it’s enough to catch all the diplomats and send them to nowhere, as always in the embassies some dregs are going on, recently an American fled the Moscow embassy and asked for asylum ...

      Maybe it’s time for us to accept a patriotic act for non-citizens, for example, to mourn the American embassy ... or stupidly have the right to detain foreigners for an indefinite time and without charge ...
      1. Gorchakov
        +1
        4 October 2012 16: 44
        Quote: orfo
        Maybe it’s time for us to accept a patriotic act for non-citizens, for example, to mourn the American embassy ... or stupidly have the right to detain foreigners for an indefinite time and without charge ...

        Strongly do not do this, because it smells of war ... You just need to give the FSB carte blanche to fulfill their direct duties ... They do not need to give advice and help ... The main thing is not to interfere ....
        1. +2
          4 October 2012 17: 04
          Quote: Gorchakov
          Maybe it’s time for us to accept a patriotic act for non-citizens, for example, to mourn the American embassy ... or stupidly have the right to detain foreigners for an indefinite time and without charge ...


          We have enough of our "Americanized" freaks. If only they could drive the rudiments of patriotism into their heads ...
          1. Gorchakov
            0
            4 October 2012 17: 39
            vadimN,
            Vadim, this is not my quote ... I could not even think so ...
            1. +1
              4 October 2012 17: 43
              Sorry, this is an orfo quote. In some tricky way, the text was carried over with your nickname ... I apologize.
              1. Gorchakov
                0
                4 October 2012 17: 45
                OK. Accepted.
  4. +2
    4 October 2012 14: 53
    25-year-old Dan Brown, an orthopedic merchant, said: “It's crazy to think that there is some kind of espionage and high treason, and that this is most connected with Russia.

    Well done, the last shpienka - Chapman was caught two years ago,
    1. +1
      4 October 2012 15: 29
      If the cowboys’s pants are narrow, the Russians are to blame for this ....
      States the farther, the more confidently fall under the definition of a country of frightened idiots. Caught spies, damn it ....
      1. vpm
        vpm
        0
        4 October 2012 20: 29
        The FBI would have watched their bankers like that, but there and there you can get it and don’t bite the giver’s hand at all, and here the evil Russians in hats with earflaps with balalaikas steal secrets, they crush democracy.
    2. orfo
      0
      4 October 2012 16: 19
      in principle, they seem to have strictly exported technologies, I think they can take military-style optics for export ... we would need such protection of technologies.
      1. 0
        5 October 2012 09: 41
        Yes, all of their chips are Chinese-made, they would only make the hype harder!
    3. +3
      4 October 2012 16: 50
      Vague doubts torment me - why should our intelligence organize illegal deliveries through compatriots? What are few options for curve designs? Something amers muddied.
      1. +2
        4 October 2012 16: 55
        Yes, they are trying to write off their jambs.
        1. wax
          +3
          4 October 2012 17: 47
          “Russia kicked out USAID, took away the license from Radio Liberty - they simply take revenge, which speaks of the level of thinking.
    4. orfo
      0
      4 October 2012 18: 33
      Ch. This is generally a commercial project of some kind and PR, it just got on.
  5. mongoose
    +5
    4 October 2012 14: 54
    elections, elections, candidates .....
  6. -1
    4 October 2012 14: 58
    Well, the Cold War is brewing again. So that all those who have left for the states, good specialists, let them return faster to Russia. Here Amerovsky paws will not get them. And then, instead of Amer’s candy wrappers, they will receive a term. bully hi
    1. +4
      4 October 2012 15: 15
      Quote: Simon
      Well, the Cold War is brewing again.


      What kind of war? enough Saudi Arabia at the direction of the United States to collapse oil prices and kina will not
      1. -1
        4 October 2012 15: 42
        Quote: Vadivak
        What kind of war? enough Saudi Arabia at the direction of the United States to collapse oil prices and kina will not

        Nope, the second time is unlikely to drive, because the crisis is.
        1. +1
          4 October 2012 15: 51
          Quote: Forget
          a crisis, after all.


          It’s something that this will be a crisis here, and they will turn on the machine and sell us their paper for our oil
      2. 0
        4 October 2012 16: 15
        Quote: Vadivak
        What kind of war? enough Saudi Arabia at the direction of the United States to collapse oil prices and kina will not

        - Russia crossed with gerycha oil on cocaine gas, so that there will be no breaking.
        And yet - Saudi, at the behest of the States, has been increasing oil production for the last two months and has almost reached its limit, and prices have just stopped rising, that is, they have stabilized. Something like Iraq, Venezuela and Iran needs to be attached to Saudi Arabia, then there will be a result, but the trouble is that these Maliki-Nejadi-Chavez are painfully obstinate and are not in a hurry to carry out the instructions of the New Yoskor regional committee. According to Chavez, because of this, by the way, an interesting mess is planned, the necessary sacred sacrifices have already been made there - the comrades-in-arms of Chavez’s main rival, Capriles, the Venezuelan Jew (Jew! - well, without them! Were killed! , Professor and Pupyrchaty, where you find yourself, it’s a little boring without you!) -), and of course, on Chavez’s personal order. We stock up on popcorn, it will be interesting.
        So the movie will be, and it will be interesting
        1. +1
          4 October 2012 16: 21
          Quote: aksakal
          Saudi at the direction of the United States for the past two months increase oil production


          Is it so that the states create reserves?
      3. Kshatriy
        +1
        4 October 2012 16: 18
        Quote: Vadivak
        What kind of war? enough Saudi Arabia at the direction of the United States to collapse oil prices and kina will not


        Nooo ........ this time there will be no Saudi Arabia. (In the literal sense of the word "there will not be") .... the moment of confrontation within the Arab world has matured and crawled to a critical point. Analysts in NATO and the United States will not go on such an adventure ... (or maybe they will go ... but then everything is trendy) ...
    2. Gorchakov
      0
      4 October 2012 15: 20
      Quote: Simon
      Well, the Cold War is brewing again

      The Cold War did not stop ... It just moved to another phase, the information one ... It’s just now veiled under democracy, where the enemy is called a strategic partner, the bandit is an oppositionist and the political technologist and spy are the plenipotentiary ambassador to Russia ... All the same , only in the open ...
    3. +1
      4 October 2012 17: 51
      Simon,
      No, let them sit in jails for greed.
  7. vladimir64ss
    +1
    4 October 2012 15: 02
    And how else do you command me to put Romney in the presidency? Paranoia is the right way.
  8. Kshatriy
    0
    4 October 2012 15: 19
    The United States has already chosen a new administration headed by Mr. Romney .... which means an open confrontation with Russia. Confrontation in any situation, even such an innocuous one, and preparation for war are "taking a bite at the bit". And let it be better than "sluggish schizophrenia" on the part of a woman and others like him - demokgatofff .......
    1. +1
      4 October 2012 15: 29
      Quote: Kshatriya
      with Mr. Romney ...., which means an open confrontation with Russia.


      Come on, who is this Romney to make his own decisions? It may be in the bedroom, but not in politics, as bankers say so and will dance, even if the "Russian" is even "seven forty"
      1. Kshatriy
        +1
        4 October 2012 16: 05
        Quote: Vadivak
        Come on, who is this Romney to make his own decisions? It may be in the bedroom, but not in politics, as bankers say so and will dance, even if the "Russian" is even "seven forty"

        I absolutely agree .... therefore I do not argue. Bankers (or some other owners of the United States) appointed Romney and his team as carriers of the vector of political development in the foreseeable future ... There are no free elections in the United States. There is a-phars and political show .... Am I right or wrong in the forecast --- will show the near future ....
      2. wax
        0
        4 October 2012 17: 53
        In the bedroom of the Mormons everything is painted, as if by notes. A six-month supply of food should be kept there in the event of a cataclysm. In general, Romney is more our boyfriend than Obama - you can talk in a manly manner. I think no one is against Putin in the West. Merkel is smarter than the rest.
  9. +3
    4 October 2012 15: 20
    The statement of the representative of the MiG corporation: "We do not steal ...". And in vain we must steal, and the more the better. Do not be shy. Not only from the Americans, but from everyone else. What would you know what to oppose, and do it better by analogy.
    1. +1
      4 October 2012 15: 35
      Quote: baltika-18
      But in vain it is necessary to steal,


      Low bow. That's right, and then

      Sorry, mother, your son couldn’t understand, quite elementary, no need to steal smile
  10. sxn278619
    +3
    4 October 2012 15: 21
    It is believable that they were exported.
    I read an interview with Ch. Mace designer at Kommersant a year ago.
    According to him, there are three groups of chips.
    1 - for military use they are not delivered to anyone
    2 - dual purpose - not supplied to Russia
    3 - Chinese production, 10% of which is defective.
    Because it is not surprising that individual missiles do not fly.
    Well done guys, found a niche for business.
    1. +2
      4 October 2012 15: 40
      Quote: sxn278619
      Well done guys, found a niche for business.


      How much I remember all the time, American microcircuits copied, bought, stole, stratified and copied, what's new?
  11. +3
    4 October 2012 15: 28
    The asymmetrical response of the Americans to the prohibition of the Foundation for Democracy in Russia and the tightening of the screws against non-profit (human rights) organizations - "foreign agents" who feed from the trough of the State Department.
  12. +3
    4 October 2012 15: 37
    Now, having chips from Amer’s traffic lights, our rockets will not fly at a red light over NY-only at green laughing
    1. Seversk
      0
      4 October 2012 20: 35
      From the article ................. that what is applicable in traffic lights can also be used in the management of missiles and radar systems ------- this is an integral part of the policy of the President of Russia Vladimir Putin, associated with an arms modernization program.

      That is, this moment is the moment of initiation, the moment of the total quantum leap laughing
  13. +3
    4 October 2012 16: 06
    rave! if our would like to get latest american developments - would buy them at the place of production - in China
    1. +1
      4 October 2012 16: 23
      Quote: dirty trick
      Recent American developments - would buy them at the place of production - in China

      Here you write good posts + for them, but they called themselves somehow
    2. Gorchakov
      0
      4 October 2012 16: 49
      dirty trick,
      Change nickname ... Your thoughts are more real than you value yourself ...
    3. raf
      0
      4 October 2012 17: 07
      Bravo, bravo, dear dirty trick! Well said! And most importantly right!
  14. 0
    4 October 2012 16: 13
    It should be noted that Russia does not have its own production of chips and microcircuits, everything collapsed into post-perestroika time. Hence the question, where does the MIG corporation take chips identical to the American ones, chips and microcircuits?
    1. +1
      4 October 2012 16: 25
      Quote: Bankir
      where does the MIG corporation take chips identical to the American ones, chips and microcircuits?

      Here is Comrade Nasty (you excuse me) wrote where
      1. 0
        5 October 2012 17: 18
        I do not understand subtle humor, speak juicier.
    2. Gorchakov
      0
      4 October 2012 16: 57
      Quote: Bankir
      Hence the question, where does the MIG corporation take chips identical to the American ones, chips and microcircuits?

      Dear, are you really interested in where the defense company takes secret schemes? Please explain why the banker needs to know this? I just do not want to insult you with mistrust, but a normal citizen of any country will not be interested in this, though there is an exception and the assumption that you are not a Russian ...
      1. 0
        5 October 2012 17: 17
        If I were a banker, I would definitely not live in Russia. Yes, I really wonder from what spare parts weapons are made which, if something happens, will defend me, or more preferably, I will defend myself. These circuits and chips have not been secret for a long time, due to the lack thereof in the domestic industry as such. It is a pity that if something happens, we will use microcircuits for the defense industry to smuggle what is happening now. Sukhoi Corporation, with its Superjet, is not at all embarrassed to say that the aircraft, and in particular avionics, is assembled from American components. Object me gentlemen, please ....
  15. 0
    4 October 2012 16: 18
    No more than another pressure on R.F.
    I won’t be surprised if something comes up in Syria ....
  16. sxn278619
    +1
    4 October 2012 16: 43
    The article says, dual-use chips and you can buy them only in America (and possibly in Japan), and in China only consumer goods.
    And since they stole only 50 ml. It’s unlikely that MIG got what dollars.
    1. +1
      4 October 2012 16: 58
      Quote: sxn278619
      and in China only consumer goods.


      Well, you got excited, in China you can buy already stolen
  17. +3
    4 October 2012 16: 55
    @ Only the "Patriotic Act of the USA" from 2001 of what is worth. This law provides a variety of agents from the government to exercise the widest range of powers: to monitor bad citizens, and at the same time non-citizens, to access their personal records, monitor financial transactions, block accounts, climb into files with educational, medical and generally any information, listen to telephone conversations and read Skype emails and messages (which Microsoft bought long ago and with giblets). According to this act, demonstrators of any kind can get into terrorists - from pacifists to environmentalists and animals @

    And after that they say that in Russia human rights are violated!?!?!?!? ... or for them a man is just a fagot, who firmly believes in the American dream?
    1. +1
      4 October 2012 17: 13
      Gentlemen, fellow citizens, Russian liberals! Before yelling through the swamps about the violation of rights and freedoms in Russia, please read the laws of your beloved America and feel the difference.
    2. Kshatriy
      +1
      4 October 2012 17: 35
      Quote: vadimN
      And after that they say that in Russia human rights are violated!?!?!?!? ... or for them a man is just a fagot, who firmly believes in the American dream?


      Let's spit together on the propaganda of the most totalitarian, most paranoid, most militarized obscurantism of our world under the name S.Sh.A !!!!!!!
      At the moment, we have the most democratic, most tolerant, having the widest freedom of speech state, without inter-religious conflicts !!!!!! Who else in the modern world can boast of such a thing besides Russia ?????? Do not forget that more than 150 peoples of different nationalities and religions live side by side with us (well, we don’t like it when gay and lesbian women publicize their abomination ... but we do not urge them to burn at the stake, but should)) ...
  18. cool.ya-nikola
    +1
    4 October 2012 17: 22
    Surprisingly, only one thing - where did it come from in the USA, not just electronics, but even microelectronics? As the world has long known, all electronics, microelectronics and other crap are made in Taiwan! ( See thin. film "Armageddon!") ...
    1. wax
      0
      4 October 2012 18: 01
      there are such lines, you will download, and full quality control. As far as these businessmen are concerned, such firms are stopped far ahead. They bought something that was not subject to prohibitions, there was also bullshit. Everything is trivial and legal. But, since the State Department said "it is necessary", then I will.
  19. wolverine7778
    0
    4 October 2012 17: 33
    The FBI just read the email and wrote all his conversations, probably collected good material, it is interesting whether the FBI shared information with the competent authorities of Russia, as in the case of Chapman
  20. +1
    4 October 2012 18: 03
    Let's not forget that the states have elections ... and this is the main thing. From the stupidity of what is happening, we can assume that they tried to recruit Fischenko ... and screwed up, then went the other way. Well, the main thing, if you believe the press about scandals with American electronics, even in the military segment, is that it is not infrequently scorched from the Middle Kingdom ... that they have something hide ... another counterfeit.
  21. 0
    4 October 2012 18: 15
    Hello everyone. Listened today to this news. There flashed our moment. I think the amers kill two birds with one stone. not only a spit in the direction of Russia, but to the slyness that the MIG uses stolen amer secrets, they may want to disrupt some contract. maybe someone in the know, there MIG doesn’t intend to get a fat contract anywhere for a hill?
  22. 0
    4 October 2012 18: 43
    For some reason I have a bad suspicion that the case is sewn with white thread. All this is somehow suspicious ..
  23. +1
    4 October 2012 19: 15
    I confess I don't understand you. Yes, let in the states at least every third "uezhenets" put in prison - what do you mean? they sdrisnul there for a good life (along the way, damp our country and its past), so let them enjoy.

    and about the anti-Russian hysteria - because no one is looking for a reason for it there. Any freak can blurt out "I looked into Putin's eyes and saw only three letters KaJBi".

    They (shtatovtsy) and previously only behaved in this way and will be in the future. I would like the Russian government to have a clear program for pursuing a policy towards the United States, so what if the Ministry of Foreign Affairs would steadily pursue this program ... but they say / do not say - "the caravan is on its way"
  24. +1
    4 October 2012 19: 27
    Off topic, but urgently!
    Turkey strikes at Syrian bases and military facilities .........
    Apparently begins ................

    NATO and the United States apparently want to use Turkey to maintain the appearance of its non-presence in the conflict .....
    Good luck to the Syrians ....... Iran must help necessarily ... and the Russian Federation and China should roar at the Ottomans!
    1. +1
      4 October 2012 19: 40
      Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
      and the Russian Federation with China must roar at the Ottomans!

      it’s not necessary to growl anymore, but to withdraw the KChF urgently at sea and DO NOT BE AFRAID TO USE WEAPONS. AND THEN THE OTTOMANS WILL STEP ONLY ONE WORD
  25. merkel1961
    0
    4 October 2012 20: 36
    I used to say about such actions of the enemy: there is no tambourine, even a "carrot" beat. This is still convulsions, convulsions are ahead. The country's leadership is self-loving paranoids, no matter what colors they are and parties.
  26. +2
    4 October 2012 21: 24
    Actually technological espionage and what ...........?
    Yes, such spies in favor of China are planted in the United States hundreds in a day and what is news?
    It is sad that in Soviet times - these guys were prepared and they were super pros, and now they are simply sent in dozens a year !!!!
    Now for the spy there is enough beautiful muzzle about assholes and that’s all, but in Soviet times they understood that this was the most difficult mission !! A beautiful woman and a spy are nonsense !!!!!
    1. Beck
      0
      6 October 2012 10: 45
      A purely personal opinion.

      That's because of such scouts in red and failures occur. Remember her behavior in Russia after the failure. Television channels, PR, undressing, languid looks, her self-awareness of an unwritten beauty. If a hundredth part of her behavior in Russia was manifested during illegal work in the USA, then the failure was logical. And after all, not one, but pulled a whole train of other scouts.

      Mata-Hari, a vigorous louse.
  27. 0
    4 October 2012 21: 33
    Something from all the evidence smacks of one good fertilizer. It was painfully briskly all exposed! Muller, probably, in a coffin fidget with envy!
  28. 0
    4 October 2012 23: 07
    Quote: baltika-18
    But in vain it is necessary to steal

    "In the service, before you steal, you are tormented. You don't need to worry, you need to steal!" A. Pokrovsky "72 meters"
  29. sxn278619
    +5
    4 October 2012 23: 46
    Microprocessor МЦСТ R-100 - development of the Russian company МЦСТ from the series of processors МЦСТ-R, based on the SPARC architecture, originally developed in 1985 by Sun Microsystems. Fully software compatible with SPARC v8 architecture.

    It is a single-core system on a chip with built-in cache of the first level. To connect processors with each other, with memory modules and input / output devices, the SPARC architecture provides for the MBus bus, a high-speed bus that provides processor cache coherency in multiprocessor structures. The microcircuit is developed according to technological standards of 0,5 microns using libraries of standard elements.

    The R-100 microprocessor is designed to create computers for stationary and embedded solutions, and can also be placed in mezzanine microprocessor modules. It is used mainly by orders of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. The first experimental batch of microprocessors MTsST-R100 was manufactured in France at the ATMEL ES2 factory using 0,5 micron technology and tested in SPARCstation 10 and SPARCstation 20 workstations in 2000.
    This work was completed at the end of 2001, and now MCST serially produces workstations and four-processor servers with an MCST-R150 microprocessor, made using 0,35-micron technology. The wafers are manufactured in Israel at the Tower Semiconductor factory, while the processors are packaged and tested by ASE (Taiwan).
  30. Ivanushra
    +1
    5 October 2012 01: 39
    The news flashed today, allegedly the Americans upset the electronics of the rocket, which was supposed to fly to Mars. If their electronics, then ours comes out generally and ... you. Channel NTV.
  31. +1
    5 October 2012 02: 16
    If you pronounce a sufficiently large lie and repeat it, then people will eventually believe in it. J. Goebbels
  32. 0
    5 October 2012 03: 02
    Regular election games. Everyone always spied on each other and you won’t surprise anyone. But the voter needs before the election. Once again, punch the brains and remind you of the insidious enemy who constantly invents Skoda
  33. Nechai
    0
    5 October 2012 03: 33
    Gentlemen, adherents of the ideals of the Democracy, will now continue to trend about land of equal opportunity, the place where the dreams of anyone come true free and energetic person?
    It's completely cynical about equality, but the word "freedom" in the given circumstances already has a completely different meaning ...
  34. 0
    5 October 2012 03: 36
    What can you scout in America if it does not even have the truth?
    1. +1
      5 October 2012 03: 47
      And if seriously, then again someone handed over from their own. There is no other way ...
  35. mind1954
    0
    5 October 2012 05: 06
    Occupational colonial fascist regime serving
    the power of the owners, the raw thieves-traitors, can only steal!
    He only pretends to be the rest, destroying everything he can
    reach out! So they decided to organize the release of weapons on theft!
    Previously, they also stole, but set up a release, as now
    does china! These villains are destroying, practically, electronic
    industry, they decided that they found a way out, as if not restoring
    electronic industry, provide yourself with the elemental base!

    To hell with them, with these next revelations to the elections!
    The question is how many such "suppliers" are still
    under the hood of the FBI and what kind of element base does it us
    through them, using them in the dark ??? !!!
    And not so long ago, one general designer broadcast that he did not see
    it's okay to install a foreign element base, even
    on strategic missiles !!! ???
  36. sxn278619
    +1
    5 October 2012 09: 52
    For many years, the American special services have known about the supply of trace elements to Russia for space and military products. Having opened the spy network, the United States deliberately violated the rules of the game in order to disrupt the work of the defense complex of the Russian Federation, Izvestia writes.

    Now almost all microcomponents in the space and military industries are imported. At the same time, about 90% of the microcomponents are supplied from the USA.

    "About 50% of products from the United States come illegally, under the guise of supplies for the national economy. In this case, the Americans have no complaints about such deals. At the same time, they knew for many years that we use their trace elements in space and military products. What is now happens, suggests that the United States deliberately violated the rules of the game, - explained the source of the newspaper.

    According to him, Russia has completely lagged behind in the manufacture of the microelectronic base and "is unlikely to be able to catch up with the advanced countries." Therefore, the disruption of the supply of microelectronics will disrupt the program for the development of advanced weapons systems.

    "You can buy equipment for the manufacture of microcircuits, but there are no specialists to master it. Until our own production cycle is established, many years will pass. We cannot even make primitive products ourselves, let alone complex equipment, especially military," said the representative MIC.

    In Russia, ferrite microelements are produced only at the MIT-Kuznetsk plant, its range does not cover all the needs of the Russian space and military industries.

    The source said that Russian businessmen in the United States could have been detained for trading parts made of ferrite, a material that does not allow high-frequency radiation to pass through. Because of this property, ferrite elements are often used to manufacture satellites and military equipment that are protected from cosmic radiation, and military products from electronic interference.

    Read more: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/05/10/2012/672837.shtml
  37. 0
    5 October 2012 11: 11
    The United States could supply deliberately defective components. And the defense industry experts say that the United States knew about the parties supplied to the Russian Federation of trace elements for space and weapons.
    Now you need to audit all weapons where these chips are.
    Stalin would put to the wall experts of the military-industrial complex who allowed this.

    http://top.rbc.ru/politics/05/10/2012/672837.shtml

    And further ...
    The Iskander-K missiles have a control system, probably based on the principle of trajectory correction by checking the digital terrain map in the correction areas with the data of the radio altimeter, or another.
    A high-precision optoelectronic azimuth transmission system manufactured by the Krasnogorsk Zenit plant was put into service as part of the Iskander complex in 2007. Probably, we are talking about the OTR 9M723 aiming system in the SPU complex.
    According to unconfirmed information, the Iskander missiles use solid-state MEMS semiconductor gyroscopes of the ADXRS150 (300) and ADIS16120 (16250) types, costing from $ 75. They also use solid-state MEMS semiconductor accelerometers such as ADXL193 single-axis and ADXL330 three-axis, the cost is about the same. Manufacturer - Analog Devices (AD, USA). There is no production of such electronics in Russia. In one missile control unit, such devices are placed 10-15 pieces in parallel on the coordinate axis to improve accuracy. The cost of such a solution is several times cheaper than installing domestic gyroscopes (mechanical or laser), the reliability of such a solution is much higher. The Russian dealer of the AD firm is the Arussoft company (Moscow). Source - http://forum.milua.org (2009).
    For this, cheaper to put on the wall.

    _________________________________
    What will the experts say?
  38. Husseyn
    0
    5 October 2012 19: 05
    One sold out, how much noise has fled / taken out, and how much is left? ... So they smack a smaller one, how do they start to bury and keep the fish bigger on a short leash.
    Do not interfere with work, etc., let them clean, - e-eh, don’t tell, WHOM is it not to interfere and WHO will scrutinize? :) There are of course people of honor and duty there, for other people's shoals and stupidity, they covered up children in the same Beslan, but only they did not crucify anyone for that ... How began to carry pots of music for the general's grandchildren and colonel's children instead of parts of missiles at the end of the Soviets, and "carry". Only the grandchildren and children of the generals and colonels have long grown out of their pants, that's why the disgraceful daughter of "one of the" had nothing to cover with her titties for the whole world ... the hero refused citizenship, and the mediocrities were made heroes. So about these and the like? Well, well, give them only power, they will screw up everything and everyone. They have one task to graze us, but the oligarchs, they are not capable of another on the fly.
    About other. Nationalism and chauvinism made the basis of communication on Russian websites, and as I looked at the names and surnames of "Russian spies" - the whole USSR ...
  39. Blat
    0
    6 October 2012 00: 05
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation announced a protest note to the particularly impudent actions of the FBI employees for active intervention ................ people are not allowed to work shorter)))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))))))))))
  40. Alex-UA
    0
    8 October 2012 16: 28
    This is a distraction of the people from some processes, then the towers will be fucked up, they will find spies, immediately they will find potatoes on the brigades.